Cashman offers up little
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As expected, Brian Cashman didn’t have much to say.
He essentially refused to acknowledge the presence of Johan Santana on the face of the earth. He refused comment on Andy Pettitte, Alex Rodriguez or Mariano Rivera.
He did say that if Melky Cabrera were traded, Johnny Damon can play center and Hideki Matsui left. The Yankees have not talked to any free-agent CFs.
Get this: He loves Kyle Farnsworth and can’t imagine trading him. Cashman claimed, “a lot of clubs are calling for him.” Farnsworth, he said, would be the set-up man.
We asked him in assorted ways whether Hank Steinbrenner has usurped his power and Cashman talked around it. He never came right out and said no.
There are indications that the Yankees will meet with the Twins tonight and if a deal is going to get done, this is the time. But keep in mind that they made a big display of walking away from the Randy Johnson talks in 2004 only to trade for him a few weeks later.
UPDATE, 8:52 p.m.: After careful consideration, I won’t be posting the audio of Cashman’s meeting with the beat writers. The main reason is that only 10 of us were invited and plenty of people who wanted in were kept out, including ESPN Radio.
I can’t see ruining that exclusivity by posting the audio here. Anybody could lift it.
The second reason is that Cashman spent a lot of time joking around with us and that stuff is essentially off the record.
Recording the manager of the GM in a room full of people after a game is one thing. But in a situation like this, it’s not the professional thing to do. Hope you understand.
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Peter Abraham
what? i knew it. the same ol’ nothing happened.
fudge !
cashman is being farnsworthless.
why does cash keep supporting me. i suck.
Vest? Cards? They are close together.
Pete – Does Cash play poker? If so, is he amazing?
I could make a joke about Cashman and Farnsworth having a secret lovechild, but I’m guessing there are children that read the blog…
How Do , PETE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK > Real Yankees Fans LOVE the Blog
Very Nice !!!!
Send Farnsworth in the Santana deal.
I bet Farnsworth is gone this off season. Cashman has a way of saying “This player will be … ” and poof – they are gone.
Hank probably said stuff he shouldn’t have said, but I always felt weird that officials leak information all the time and these are not met with criticism, while saying things without concealing your identity is not ok. Shouldn’t it be reverse?
This tells me one thing. Kyle will be traded
I am praying this is some sort of smokescreen Cash is putting up about Farnsworth.
Why wouldn’t he comment on Alex, Mo and Andy? Is it becuase contracts aren’t finished?
Wow, he complimented Farnsy? I’m impressed. I thought only lawyers could lie like that.
Do the Yankees have any backup plan for center? I’m not sure I trust Damon to stay healthy enough for a full season.
I really hope Cashman is bluffing regarding Worthless.
And if alot of teams are calling about Kyle, pick up the phone Cash. As for 3 top prospects in return.
Hey Pete, when the Yankees front office runs into the Sox front office in the lobby…do they say hi?
I don’t think Hank knows the first thing about baseball talent or scouting. I can’t imagine him getting involved in who to draft, promote, trade. Those things are left to Cash. However, money issues are in his purview – it’s his money, after all – and because he is his father’s son, he will get invovled in budget and the particulars of an acquisition if it involves big bucks. Like ARod and Santana.
Could it be that Cash, being the good company man, is simply sidestepping issues that he feels is none of the media’s and fans’ business? Having listened to a lot of Pete’s audio, even though he may talk a lot, Cash is very good as saying nothing.
i see the time spent giving my dog a walk and a bath did not lead to any major news.
How can he POSSIBLY like Farnsworth?? He’s being a stubborn b*tch because he’s prob the one who wanted him and refuses to give up on him.
We Miss Paulie:
Actually they kiss, full french.
Set-up man! Heck yeah!
I can set up drinks for the coaches, or set up tables and chairs in the luxury boxes, or set up jokes for Andy and Moose.
Sounds like Farnsworth will be gone by the end of the week. “Bubba Crosby is my starting center fielder.” Cash has still got it.
WHAT THE HELL IS CASHMAN SMOKING?!?
I WANT TO HIT THAT!
Backup plan? This is the same guy who said he was prepared to go into a season with Bubba Crosby as his CF. Unfortunately for him, Bubba believed Cash. They’ll probably promote one of the kids, like they did with the pitchers last year, whoever is “readiest” first. Or maybe we’ll be treated to the spectacle of seeing Abreu roam CF on some days with Duncan in RF.
Cashman is the bizarro Hank Steinbrenner. One won’t shut up, and the other won’t say anything.
Cash saying “I can’t wait to get rid of Krazy Kyle!” is likely not the best way to maintain his trade value.
Expect Farnsworth to be traded soon.
Pete- It should be obvious that Cashman’s refusal to give a direct answer to your question to him about decision making, was in fact answered. Steinbrenner will make all the major player deals and Cashman will revert to his old job as lackey to George and the Tampa boys…Cashman’s job title should be ,”whipping boy”...Why he stays with this organization is incredible…He’s got plenty of money. Too bad he has no pride.
I’m beginning to hope this Santana deal is just a bad dream. Time to build from within. I like Andy as a solid #2, with Wang as a very solid #3, Hughes as the #4 and any of the depth as #5—Moose, Igawa, Kennedy, Karstens. If we get lucky, Hughes will have a breakout year and leapfrog to #1.
Good putting it in perspective.
Farnsworth, Kyle Farnsworth. The guy can fling a baseball a skillion miles an hour. Let’s leave his bloated salary out of this for a second. He forced Mo into a few 4-out saves last year, but he also kicked rear on plenty of occasions.
I would love to see Krazy Kyle do something to make it all better. He can do it, and the Yanks are paying him.
The Yankees are also paying Pavano, a name synonymous with a really nasty disease. I doubt he can do anything besides get hurt, but I’d like to see him in camp competing for a roster spot. If he’s a 20 game winner next year, which is possible, good. If both his knees explode and his pitching arm falls off, at least he’ll have had his final opportunity.
“Hey Pete, when the Yankees front office runs into the Sox front office in the lobby…do they say hi?”
No, it’s like the Sharks and the Jets; they dance around the lobby in a choreographed knife fight.
I like farnsworth in the setup role. I think cashman already knows what is going to go down and they are just waiting for Boston, if the Sox don’t up their offer then the deal gets official. This is just my feeling.
I’m going to assume that he’s talking up Farnsworth so that he can trade him. T
By the way, I stayed at the Opryland in May, and at it’s lookalike in Orlando about a year ago. Those places are monstrous. You can get lost in there (and I did). They’re building a new one her in Washington DC right now, the 4th Gaylord. The other one is in Dallas and I haven’t had the misfortune of staying there.
If the Yankees move on without Santana tonight by virtue of their imposed deadline,, they need to be real careful not to burn bridges with Twins and keep abreast of developments.
If they burn bridges, the Redsox can come in, sweeten the pot a little and land Santana without giving up much. If the Redsox can acquire Santana without any pain- that is not good news for the Yankees nor the rest of the AL , no matter how the Yankees would spin it afterwards.
The worst case scenario for thee Yankees other than the yankees over-paying(trading) for Santana is the Redsox getting him without giving up any real value such as E-bury or B-holz in the process.
Yeah Ryan, one retired guitar player in Westchester.
Let’s have a contest:
Whoever guesses how many times The Cash Man talked about “the process” in the audio about to be posted by Pete wins!
I am auctioning off a Kyle Farnsworth autographed jersey this Friday. This will surely get lots of bids, but definitely not get as high as that Roy Smalley autographed bat.
Wow thats some pretty lame defensive OFs if we feature Damon, Matsui, Abreu(aside for his arm), and sometimes Duncan. Be prepared for a frustrating year filled with teams running 1st to 3rd all day.
Re: Farnsworth. Take it easy, folks. He’s just trying to maximize his value. About a year ago, didn’t Cashman say something about Jaret Wright having a secure place in the rotation, even though there was interest in him. Within days, he actually found a team foolish enough to take him.
I’m not a big fan of the Santana deal. But, if they are going to pursue this, they might as well see what it would take to add Nathan the deal too. Maybe it’ll be too much as well, but it might make giving up Hughes a little easier to take.
Oh come on Pete!! PLEASE!! Just kidding it is understandable. Just fill us in with a little more dirt tomorrow after everyones articles are published. And gosh the Yankees really dislike espn, much like me. I can’t believe they kept out the leading sports network.
What’s the big deal? According to yourself, he didn’t say anything worthwhile anyway.
did he tell any tony womack jokes?
The contest is off. Pete is not going to post the audio due to exclusivity.
Brett Gardner will be fine as the backup center fielder/ 4th outfielder if melky is dealt.
Why does everyone get on Cash about Farsnworthless. What is he supposed to say? He’s the worst pitcher in the world?
How does that help his trade value.
With that ridiculous Scott Linebrink and JC Romero deal the relief market has gone haywire.
They may find a taker for Kyle and not have to pay any of this money.
If the Yankees “burned bridges” its simply because the Twins are not business people, and they will deserve to be fleeced. I don’t think the Twins will lowball with the Sox on spite.
Unless of course, you think that this is the Yankees first deal as GM, or it is Smith’s… oh wait.
Totally understandable Pete, thanks for the recap though.
“the process” will be mentioned 4 times by Cash. Maybe a 5th time if there is a dumb person that asks him something that makes him repeat himself having to therefore reuse “the process”.
“”“Hey Pete, when the Yankees front office runs into the Sox front office in the lobby…do they say hi?—”
“No, it’s like the Sharks and the Jets; they dance around the lobby in a choreographed knife fight.”
Thank you for that. I needed to laugh.
murphydog, take it easy on the lawyers, man. We don’t lie, our clients do.
Screw johan. Let’s sign him next year and keep phil.
It’s not worth it for Pete or his readers to risk losing his place in these semi-exclusive interviews. As he said, certain people were not invited. That could be Pete next time if he upsets the Yankees PR people.
It’s not worth it to Pete or his readers who depend on him being there. (not to mention his newspaper employer who needs him to be present at such interviews)
I totally understand Cashman displaying confidence in Krazy Kyle, but I do hope that he’s doing it for trade value and not because he honestly believes it. It’s way too early in the 2008 season to have to convince oneself that Farnsworth is a reliable reliever.
I know I am in the minority but I think the change to Joe G and staff will help Farnsworth. There were tons of examples of guys that Joe Torre overused and then they faded and never got out of his doghouse. He has the stuff and this staff will give him the chance.
What if a Nathan deal is in the works and somehow Cashman has managed to work Farnsworth into the Minny deal to replace him out there? By the time their new stadium is ready, Farnsworth will be long gone anyway. So a mid-level third prospect like Marquez goes, and rather than upgrading Marquez to Horne or something, Minnesota takes on Farny?
Cashman’s silence tells me something’s going to happen. Cashman’s outspokenness on Kyle tells me something’s going to happen and Kyle is involved.
ya know, i didn’t think about kyle for santana. kyle, gonzalez and betamit for santana and a prospect !! one of the better lines of the summer, i believe attributable to peter, referred to the “wilson betamit glory days.” i’m hoping to meet wilson at the mcdonalds at eighth and 55th for an angus third pounder and a mcburrito.
smart move re: farnsworth. pump that value, then trade his @$$! cashman is so money.
its more like the “wilson betemit glory moment”...if it was days I missed them.
Oh boo, I was late, but it is understandable Pete. Goshdarn iPhone by the time I was done typing Johan was in Cooperstown.
If the Yankees are willing to walk away, I am fine with that. I can see them being open to revisiting the situation after the Twins have a change of heart. If not, oh well.
Just relax folks, the meetings are just starting and its gonna be a wild ride, no sense jumping into this and having the biggest deal over and done with too early. Where is the fun in that?
Hopefully Joe G can knock some sense into Krazy Kyle’s head.
Brian’s right – Cashman is zip-lipped, something’s gonna happen, and soon. but what…?
Here’s how it goes down.
Twins miss Hank’s deadline and ultimatum meaning we will no longer negotiate…then Smith comes back begging through and Goldman Sachs partner to rekindle negotiations. Hank takes over the negotiation and instead of Hughes, Melky and Gonzo, Offers Hughes, Melky and the entire Scranton AAA team.
That’ll teach those bad boys to mess with Hank. He taught Boras and he’ll teach them too!
Moron!
JS:
Hey, speak for yourself. My clients want results! (Just Kidding – I think).
Ahh Big Joe you had me until you had to go for the low blow.
kidding aside, kyle is a primo closer on a second division team. for one thing there will be fewer calls, very few three and four game winning streaks. some two game streaks will not require a closer. when he’s rested (sMiLe) and not wired he is lights out. hard to imagine him ever making it here. that’s what’s so likeable about guys like bruney and britton. (they’re meeting me and wilson at mcdonalds)
Prete Funk Era:
I’ll be here all week. You’ve been a great audience.
Ice Age…you’re right. It was not necessary. Thats why I am not a professional writer. I should let his actions speak for themselves and we call all make up our own minds.
I officially retract “Moron!”
As much as I hate Farnsworth, this is good. His confidence was shot last year and hopefully this will help boost it. It probably wont take much to get the fans back on his side of he starts off the year good.
Ever the stealth guy that he is, some will be baited and some will be for real in disguise. At one time Brian Cashman must have been one helluva poker player and no doubt still is. He’ll kid around and be as cool as the other side of the pillow and then – all of a sudden – WHAMMO !!! ..... a deal is done. He’s done it before and he’ll do it again.
You can bet your ass he’s talking up farnsworth for a trade…and I applaud it.
Thanks Pete.
i don’t know what it is about Farnsworth’s career 4.10 ERA and 1.4 WHIP as a reliever that makes people think its just a one year confidence problem. He’s not particularly good.
Hey Pete, did Brian mention the release date of his memoir? I think the publisher should already have settled on a date by now. How about Torre’s?
WOW! If rumor can be believed, the Mets might be close to a deal for Bedard. Not sure I buy this, but…
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2007/12/03/minaya-copperfield/
I love that Cash shut out ESPN radio. Love it.
I hope he is talking up Farnsworth like he was talking up Bubba Crosby as the CF in the winter of 2005
The guys over at mets blog are dubious of this rumor. they’re usually pretty good with interpreting the organization
http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-mets-work-with-os-on-bedard/
You’re a true professional Pete.
Mattpat11:
You are correct sir. Every year, since long before he was a Yankee, people say that he has great potential. Problem is he never lives up to it. He has pretty much been the same pitcher every year, so what makes people think he will change?
Farnsworth is consistently inconsistent. Always was, always will be.
Maybe Farnsworth, Melky, IPK, and a AA prospect for Santana?
In other words…Farnsworth for Matt Thronton or Damaso marte. Should be done in a few days
Judging by his trade with the Nats earlier this week, I’d say Minaya is feeling generous this holiday season. How about Farnsworth, Pavano, and Damon’s left arm for John Maine?
That Cashman. He’s pulle off the greatest heist since the Lufthansa hob. Santana and cash for Farnsworth.
All Hail, Brian Jesse James Cashman.
lufthansa job
please get an editing option NOW
Farnsworth + Bad Back = Pay someone to take him off our hands! For Damasco Marte- No Chance
Any thoughts of resurrecting Farnsworth’s career are pointless. This being a contract year is all he has going for him. It’s mostly between his ears. With virtually every team needing some form of bullpen help, Cashman will find a suitor.
In Farnsworth’s defense…
he did look much improved once he started locating his slider and mixing it in more towards the end of the season. hitters were sitting fastball all year and farnsy would either walk them or throw it right down the middle. the slider kept them off balance a little.
he is far from dependable at this point but i can understand why some teams would have interest in him (knowing the yanks would pay for some of his deal if he’s moved).
Joe from Long Island
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 pm
Having listened to a lot of Pete’s audio, even though he may talk a lot, Cash is very good as saying nothing.
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Cashman has been studying his Jeter Public Speaking Tapes, now available on Amazon.com and in the lobby.
Can’t believe teams are interested in Kyle. I’d move him for someone who can actually pitch.
Boston Dave
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:00 pm
In Farnsworth’s defense…
he did look much improved once he started locating his slider and mixing it in more towards the end of the season. hitters were sitting fastball all year and farnsy would either walk them or throw it right down the middle. the slider kept them off balance a little.
he is far from dependable at this point but i can understand why some teams would have interest in him (knowing the yanks would pay for some of his deal if he’s moved).
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Not a hole lot of defense about a 98 MPH straight as a string, waist high, inner half fastball over the plate is necessary.
whole
Green Beret,
not when hitters are sitting on it. he was better when he hit stride with his slider.
by no means am i comfortable with him pitching… just saying that i can see why some other teams would take a chance on him if the yanks paid some of his deal OR gave him up for very little. setup men / relievers are getting $5M/yr deals now.
Unlike the Yankees, general manager Theo Epstein said Monday that the Red Sox will not set a deadline for a possible Johan Santana trade.
“I think we’ve only done that when we thought it was in our best interest,” Epstein said. “We don’t have current discussions ongoing for which I think that would be in our best interest. We’re pretty content with where we are and we don’t think anything major is getting held up. There’s a natural order of things this winter and we’re just going to let it play out. If we think the dynamic changes or our interest changes, we certainly wouldn’t hesitate to put a timetable on something or other. But this doesn’t apply right now.”
Phil Hughes can be as good as Santana. He was near that before he got hurt, and in his playoff innings he showed what he (at 21-years old) was made of.
And he’s a LOT cheaper!!!!!!
Sure I’d love a established #1, but the Yankees just may have that in Hughes, and or, Joba.
I’m hoping that Santana ain’t comin’. Let Boston pay through the nose.
Is CashMan serious? If “a lot of clubs are calling for him.â€, meaning Farnsworth, he’d be crazy not to trade him. Farnsie’s in his last year. He’s sucked for us. And he’s had absolutely no worth so far so if he does now we have to take what we can get. Even if its just additional minor leaguers.
I exist. I just want to start more trash talk about me.
Our Pete is a standup dude when it comes to journalistic ethics – and his work ethic isn’t too shabby either.
C-Money is a straight up gangsta – so glad he’s on the Yankees’ side.
And Farnsworth sucks. That was me calling Cash to tell him to trade the loser.
Totally understand, Pete… that’s the right thing to do. Thanks for keeping us informed!
“â€â€œHey Pete, when the Yankees front office runs into the Sox front office in the lobby…do they say hi?â€â€”
“No, it’s like the Sharks and the Jets; they dance around the lobby in a choreographed knife fight.â€
amazing
The Yankees are in on Ron Mahay. Not sure that’s a good thing. Funny article below:
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2007/12/04/ron-mahay-prepared-to-fleece/