All Joba, all the time
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The Joba Chamberlain is a busy guy. He will be at Penn Station on Friday morning at 8 a.m. to appear on the Mike and Mike Show on ESPN Radio.
The show will in front of the Christmas tree on the Amtrak level.
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I love Joba he is such a good player!!
love him
Friday 8 AM?
Yea, I’ll be sleeping.
Awesome! I will program the Tivo tonight.
It is a good thing you posted this, I thought it was Thursday morning. I would have left my house earlier only to find out I had the wrong day.
he doesn’t have roles any more
Dude, guys, check out MLBTR.
I take it with a grain of salt, but it’d be hysterical if it went down and neither the Yanks nor the Sox got Santana or Haren…
Just read a fluff article about Joba on ESPN.com. He sends text messages a lot and likes UFC, that’s all I got from that. I’d like to see Pete to a Q&A with him or a real peice about him and his father. Would be an interesting read.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3142534
twins would trade santana for haren….the mets would get a ton of players…..
That deal makes no sensefor the Twins.
Wow that sounds crazy. Mets get the best of that trade, by far. Goes with my earlier theory, the Mets should get rid of Reyes.
Mike and Mike is simulcast every morning on ESPN2, so TiVo it or use whatever your favorite means of capturing these TV shows is.
Provided he can keep the AL hitters guessing, Chamberlain could be the Ace for whom we’re looking next season. Hey, there is that chance.
Blue Jays are in talks with the Giants:
Lincecum to the Jays.
Rios + a prospect (maybe) to the Giants.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....ain-o.html
Shouldn’t Cashman get involved if Lincecum or Cain is available for some reason?
Is MLBTR ever right about any trades?
Twins get Haren-
A’s get Reyes, Mulvey,Pellot
Mets get- Crosby, Santana, Dan Johnson.
How could the Mets not say yes to that?
If I was a Twin fan, and Santana turned into Haren, I’d become a Yankees fan.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
The Big Three are like the Beatles — they should all appear together. It used to be The Big Four, but Ringo got traded to the Nats.
Adam there was allegedly a profile piece meant to come out towards the end of the season in Sports Illustrated they were following JOba and his dad around when the dad came to the Stadium, but I never saw hyde nor hare of it.
Also curious if anyone know anymore about that book that John Feinstein was writing on pitchers (one of which was Moose) and following them through last season.
I don’t think we have a tradable piece to land Lincecum.
where does the guy on mlb trade rumors.com come up with this stuff? the mets get dan johnson, bobby crosby, and santana? for reyes, a crappy pitching prospect, and some guy i’ve never heard of.
Slow day at the meetings so its time for some website to make up a trade rumor.
Don’t forget that the Twins get Haren and nothing else.
Umm the guy at MLBTR always cites his sources. It’s not like he’s making this stuff up.
The Rios story is backed up by multiple citations.
The Mets/As/Twins story comes from a NY writer and I generally trust the info from his inside sources.
We should have a “Most outrageous believable Santana trade rumor” contest. Whoever makes up the most outrageous Santana rumor that is believable wins.
Mike R. December 5th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
We should have a “Most outrageous believable Santana trade rumor†contest. Whoever makes up the most outrageous Santana rumor that is believable wins.
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You mean like trading Kennedy (a 4th/5th starter), Melky (a 4th OF) and some mid-level prospect for Santana?
A “trusted NY sportswriter” is not citing a source.
When he puts a name of this supposed “trusted NY sportswriter”, then its citing a source.
Except on this trade he says his source is a “trusted NY sportswriter” Oh yeah dude, way to cite your sources!
Would Santana for Pavano straight up work?
Santana/Reyes/Haren Blockbuster In The Works?
Just got an incredible rumor from a trusted New York sportswriter. Stay with me, because this one’s crazy. But rest assured that if the source wasn’t good, I wouldn’t post it.
Minnesota has initiated talks for a three-way blockbuster with the Twins and A’s. Here’s how it would go down:
Mets send Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey, and Hector Pellot to A’s
A’s send Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson to Mets
A’s send Dan Haren to Twins
Twins send Johan Santana to Mets
Mets get Johan Santana, Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson
A’s get Jose Reyes and Kevin Mulvey
Twins get Dan Haren and Hector Pellot
The source says Haren is exactly the type of player the Twins want for Santana, a cheap frontline starter. It’s known the Mets would hate to deal Reyes but they would get some value beyond Santana. Billy Beane is happy because he gets Reyes for one more year than he had Haren plus longtime favorite Mulvey. And, he’s out of Crosby’s contract.
Thoughts?
Nothing on hte MLBTraderumors site ever happens. It is a site of people like us who make up crazy trade scenarios to feel better about themselves.
Way to judge the guy on one post guys. Sample-size anyone?
But whatever. Not my blog, so I’m not going to bother defending it.
Lincecum to the Jays scares me. They could end up with the second best rotation in the East or the best.
You are winning so far. Sorry, but Santana for Pavano is not believable.
Kennedy is being compared to a young Mussina. I cant see how you can project him to just be a 4th starter.
You also forgot to mention 160 million on top of that trade. So that eliminates most teams. If he was inexpensive,i would agree. But with what he’d cost us, I think it was a fair offer.
Why is it so hard to believe that the mets will not trade jose reyes?
They are not going to trade him!
Just like the yankees never seriously considered trading Cano.
It’s very, very difficult to find a short stop who can produce that many runs while playing excellent defense.
….You mean like trading Kennedy (a 4th/5th starter), Melky (a 4th OF) and some mid-level prospect for Santana?…
Melky a 4th OF;;what stats are you reading, what experts have you consulted for this opinion?
Kennedy, a 4th/5th starter; again what are your sources, where do you come up with these assertions??
I believe Melky had a solid year, 400+AB, on a team with the best record in baseball over the last 3+ months,,,certainly not an All star but definitely not a 4th of.
And Kennedy, was a #1 draft pick and the MiL pitcher of the year,, sure may not turn out to be a Roy Oswalt but all the projections say his ceiling is higher than a back of the rotation guy.
Sounds like complete BS>
Yeah, the mets are going to give up Reyes and somehow get Crosby and Santana. That’s crazy.
The Mets would need to give up some prospects that are actually touted to make that deal work.
WOAH LOOK AT THIS.Dont know if it holds water. MLBtraderumors
Just got an incredible rumor from a trusted New York sportswriter. Stay with me, because this one’s crazy. But rest assured that if the source wasn’t good, I wouldn’t post it.
Minnesota has initiated talks for a three-way blockbuster with the Twins and A’s. Here’s how it would go down:
Mets send Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey, and Hector Pellot to A’s
A’s send Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson to Mets
A’s send Dan Haren to Twins
Twins send Johan Santana to Mets
Mets get Johan Santana, Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson
A’s get Jose Reyes and Kevin Mulvey
Twins get Dan Haren and Hector Pellot
The source says Haren is exactly the type of player the Twins want for Santana, a cheap frontline starter. It’s known the Mets would hate to deal Reyes but they would get some value beyond Santana. Billy Beane is happy because he gets Reyes for one more year than he had Haren plus longtime favorite Mulvey. And, he’s out of Crosby’s contract.
Giambi and Mussina for Santana!
I’ve been reading everyone’s thoughts and generally was happy to see the Yanks pull out when the ask was out of hand. However, to not pull the trigger on Santana for Hughes, Melky, Marquez and the 3B playing A ball (blanking on name- Hollingloss or something like that) is crazy. Yes, adding another $20MM a year is steep. But they loss Giambi, Mussina, Pettitte, Farns contracts next year. And you open a new stadium. It has become abundantly clear that having a scoring machine gets you to the playoffs, but no further. There is no chance that all of the “Big Three” become aces. Perhaps Hughes is the best of the bunch, but it remains an unknown. Santana is not an unknown. For those players and one year of a $240MM budget, it makes sense to pull the trigger. Your payroll decreases in a year and you can compete with everyone while JOrge, Mo, etc have something left in the tank.
O.k. how about this one. We resign Cairo and ship him Nieves and Pavano. They get a stating pitcher and infield help, which they needed.
THEY HAVE TILL MIDNIGHT TO TAKE THE DEAL OR IM PULLING THE OFFER FROM THE TABLE.
Do people read any of the prior posts here?
How many times can the same ridiculous trade rumor from MLBtrade rumors be posted?
If I see that false MLBTR rumor here one more time.
Okay let’s think logically for a second. Would anyone here trade Santana straight up for Dan Haren and a bag of Doritos?
That’s essentially what that trade proposal is on Minnesota’s side.
I think we’ve dubbed the big 3 the Trinity.
If you agree with this, press 1.
If you don’t, press 2.
If you thik that I should shut up and go write my English paper, press 3.
If it’s warmer than 13 F where you live, press ‘I will send Rebecca some of my glorious heat’.
Myrtle Beach:
There was a time when that package would have been amazing.
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Maybe you didnt hear, but Santana is going to the Mets, Haren to the twins…You know what, scratch that. Im not going to waste my breath on it.
id soo much rather Johan go to the mets then the redsox – that just hurts because the yanks dont get him. It doesnt kill because the yanks dont get him and the sux do.
Why dont the Mets offer Willie in the Santana package?
Melky:
Never reached .800 OPS except for one short stint in AAA.
His numbers offensively right now are the exact same as his minor league numbers which indicates that this is his ceiling.
His only plus defensively is his arm which is great. He doesn’t take good routes to the ball, his range isn’t as great as Granderson, Crisp or even Damon.
Kennedy:
His stuff. You think he’s going to do well against Boston’s lineup? Cleveland’s lineup? Detroit’s lineup?
There’s a reason he’s the most expendable of the big 3. He’s a very good pitcher, but if he has an off day, he can’t blow fastballs by people.
There’s a reason why Boston and Toronto are stockpiling power arms. Why Clevelands top 2 throw 95+ and Detroit’s top 2 are fireballers. You don’t miss Sheffield’s bat throwing 90.
Kennedy’s good and I like him as a middle/back-end starter, but he isn’t anchoring anyone’s rotation.
mlbtraderumors always cites this blog and pete’s info, dont rip the guy for posting a rumor, especially when his website is mlbtradeRUMORS.com….its a very useful blog….
A “trusted NY sportswriter†could easily mean anyone from the NY Post or perhaps Mike Lupica, so that’s not something worth paying attention to.
Or it could just be made up and the real source doesn’t want to incorrectly quote anybody.
migames…how bout we rip YOU instead ? (joke)
do they even look at what they write before they publish it?
My sources tell me that the big A’s-Twins-Mets trade rumor is not complete fantasy. However, it’s actually a 4-team deal, with the Red Sox sending Coco Crisp to whichever of the other teams wants to pay his salary.
I don’t think the Yankees are going to get Lincecum let alone trade Cano for him but this is a nice rotation:
Pettitte,Lincecum,Chamberlain,Hughes,Kennedy,Wang
As for the Giants-Jays Licencum-Rios rumor, that one is actually real enough that it’s being discussed on local sports talk here in the SF Bay Area. FWIW. (The 12-3 hosts are in favor of it.)
Ugh. Cashman should send Cano for Lincecum + prospect.
That would solve a lot of problems.
“Melky:
Never reached .800 OPS except for one short stint in AAA.
His numbers offensively right now are the exact same as his minor league numbers which indicates that this is his ceiling.”
That’s interesting. In general, when you analyze players “ceiling” based on their minor league number one of the first things you have to do is to look at their age and compare that to their level of play.
How old was melky when he played at AAA? 20-21
That means he was one of the youngest players in the entire league.
For comparison – Jay Bruce, the top ranked prospect in all of baseball right now, got promoted to AAA as a 20 year old.
Also – melky only had around 200 AB total in AAA because they brought him up so quickly.
In 2005 he had 101 AB in AAA after they called him up from AA – he had an OPS of .655.
In 2006 in AAA he had 122 AB – and had an OPS of .996.
So the “short stint” your not giving him credit for was longer than the stint you are knocking him for. That makes a lot of sense. But it is convenient for your argument.
If you want to say melky has a limited upside fine. But to use his minor league OPS as “evidence” is pretty weak.
By the way – Jacoby Ellsbury’s OPS in AAA – 0.740 in more at bats than melky had and scouts think the world of him.
I don’t think Melky has that high a ceiling. But I also know that you can twist stats to say most thing you want.
Think there’s enough moving parts in that new “blockbuster trade”? Think that the meetings are boring and some sportswriters and other yahoos are spending more time at the bar than the laptop?
This just in from MLBTRADERUMORS.COM: Johan Santana demands trade to ‘91 Twins.
Right. So. I’m nearly done with page 3/6, whee.
Anyway. The meetings next year are in Vegas. Who’s up for a road trip?
Any Yankees rumors. This is dead.
i just read this, i cant believe this: The Marlins’ payroll will be around $10 million in 2008.
From an untrusted source:
Johan Santana for Hank and a horse’s ass.
Retraction: Just got a confirmation that Hank and Horse’s ass is redundant.
Can anyone deny or confirm these times for Joba signings tomorrow:
Tommorrow- Modells, 1pm
Circuit City? 6pm
Friday- Mike and Mike, 8am, Penn Station
i have the feeling melky will get better, but next year is a big year for him to demonstrate that. he doesn’t bother me right now as a starter, but i have been less than impressed with his offensive game many, many times. i’m a big stats guy, but i think melky has a lot of intangibles in addition to his solid defense that make him a legit major league regular. he seems like a winner to me — always in the middle of rallies, big plays when they matter most, etc. it’s not much, but it is something.
kennedy is extremely intelligent and knows how to pitch, which, scouts will tell you, makes his stuff “play up” a notch. though his fastball isn’t great, he locates it with precision, and his command/control also makes his other pitches play up a notch.
i’m sure he’ll take his lumps from time to time, but he’s no worse than a #3 for me, and extremely close to meeting that ceiling already. that’s pretty valuable.
Adam, gayle:
Here’s that Sports Illustrated story on Joba and his dad. Very moving read IMO.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Minnesota has initiated talks for a three-way blockbuster with the Twins and A’s. Here’s how it would go down:
Mets send Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey to A’s
Mets send Hector Pellot to Twins
A’s send Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson to Mets
A’s send Dan Haren to Twins
Twins send Johan Santana to Mets
Mets get Johan Santana, Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson
A’s get Jose Reyes and Kevin Mulvey
Twins get Dan Haren and Hector Pellot
this is mentioned.. had to be..
this isnt a bad deal for us.. cept we wont have a chance to get any good pitchers anytime soon
please stop posting that rumor
Lupica is right on top of all rumors. Your prototypical “go to guy”.
http://enough-Lupica.com/index.htm
*pressing 3 repeatedly*
SJ44 -
I read something you posted earlier but couldnt reply cuz I was at work. You gave the rundown of the Marlins revenue (before ticket sales). very good post, thanks.
I was in a Minny Twins blog the other day discussing the Twins revenue and potential revenue and the fans insisted the Twins just dont make much money even with revenue sharing. they are spending as much on payroll as they can. I was wondering if they make the same amount that the Marlins did? less? more? Is this consistent with most MLB teams?
thanks.
Rebecca – if you haven’t already, stop procrastinating and get to work on your paper. So I pick 3. You can check the blog again when you finish your first draft. And probably nothing will have happened other than the repetitive posting of that ridiculous trade rumor.
that blockbuster deal is not a blockbuster
its a megablockbuster
even bigger than that
wow.
Besides it being a bogus rumor…..Why would the Twins do that?? Why wouldn’t they just work with the Mets and take Reyes, Kevin Mulvey and Hector Pellot??
Mets are just making believe down there. A PR move so Omar can say he tried to get Santana.
The Yankees have to make the deal for Santana. According to the Daily News, they were offered a deal from the twins that included Santana for Hughes, Melky, Vazquez(mid level minot leauger) and another A ball third baseman. According to Bill Maddon of the Daily News they did not make the deal because of the financial aspect of it and that the Yankees can not afford Santana. This deal was ended by Brian Cashman suggeting it was too much for the organization financialy to pay for santana.
Buster Olney is reporting that Hector Pellot will be going to both the Twins and the A’s but will be unable to play in games between the two teams due to league regulations.
“trusted NY sportswriter”…
Trusted? By whom?
Cash is banking on Santana going with twins abd we pick him up as a free agent as no one will deal with his salary demands. Maybe his value goes up or down next year but that’s the way they treat their own, see Mo and Po, so why not Santana.
Mets in on Santana deal, puhleeze Sweeny
That’s an interesting 3 way deal.
Rios is not going for Lincecom according to the ESPN crew at the meetings. I like Rios, but the Giants would be dumb to make a trade like that. Rios is a nice bat, but not an elite bat.
Golic and Jabba on the same set?
Must be a sweet buffet.
Here is a pic of Joba today.
http://depedro.us/Yankee_Joba.jpg