Clemens and Pettitte named by Mitchell?
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There are scattered reports that Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte will be among those named by the Mitchell Report. Their names have come up in the past based on their ties to trainer Brian McNamee.
McNamee is a personal trainer who was employed by the Yankees for several years at the insistence of Clemens. It is believed that McNamee spoke to Mitchell.
While there is little doubt that many, many players were using performance-enhancing drugs and probably still are, the methods of Mitchell and his staff and their sources demand much scrutiny.
I suspect many of those names will plead ignorance or deny their involvement all together. Unless Mitchell has failed drug tests or some sort of other proof, such charges are hard to make stick.
It also will be interesting to see whether any Red Sox are named. If not, the report’s credibility will take a hit.
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Seriously, that guy is huge.
pettitte….
say it aint so pete, say it aint so
I could care less for clemens, but pettitte…
The really tragic thing is, once your name is out there, true or not, you can never really get back your good name. There will always be lingering doubt. And the court of public opinion is not quite as picky about getting all the facts straight.
My prediction: This report will lack credibility and drug use will continue. So what will it accomplish? Nothing.
Baseball will declare usage is a thing of the past and when the next HR epidemic comes and they make even more money off it, they will declare, “we did our part.” Consider this a manifesto of absolution of future guilt.
Johnny Damon will be on that list too. But not certain if he was connected to HGH during his days with Oakland or later when he was in Boston.
Goodness Gracious!
Not Rajah!
Somebody check on Susan!
I won’t shed any tears for Clemens.
Pettitte….that would be unfortunate.
jeffrey maier is on the list, so much for the dynasty
There is a list being circulated on the internet now.
Damon and Farnsworth are on that list. No Arod, Jeter, Rivera, Posada.
No former Yankees such as Tino, O’Neill, Cone, Bernie, etc.
Prominent Red Sox: Varitek, Nixon, and Mo Vaughn. No Ortiz or Manny.
Take it for what its worth.
If Pettitte is “accused”, his name will not be tarnished.
You will see what a popularity contest this really is.
You will also hear cries of racism. Most of the public could care less. Get on with the games. Most of these guys aren’t going to the Hall of Fame.
Mitchell will throw in a Coco Crisp or something as to maintain some kind of semblance of equal treatment to the situation but the bias is clear. IF I DO NOT SEE ORTIZ NAME IN THE REPORT THEN THIS IS A FARCE. The guy hit 140 homers in 7 years went to the Red Sox and hit that many in almost half the time.
I agree with Pete….I am curious how many Red Sox are listed, seeing as Mitchell is/was a paid employee of their organization.
This is a joke!! Blame Bud Selig and the players association for this crap…Like Pete said they better name prominent Red Sox….
HELLO?!?!?
CLEMENS WAS THE GREATEST RED SOX PITCHER EVER!!!!!!!!!
I won’t shed any tears for Clemens.
Pettitte….that would be unfortunate.
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See?
Just what I wrote in the last thread. Guys no one likes will bear the brunt of the wrath of the public, while guys who are seen as “good guys” and good teammates will get a pass.
If this report has 5 or 6 yankees, and then only one or two sox, that it loses a lot of credibility in my eyes…since Mitchell works for the Sox, whats to stop him from throwing Rivera and Posada’s names in the report just to ruin there reputation forever..?
What will we do if Chad Curtis is on the list? I think we need to give up our championships.
SJ where is that list?
How exactly will the charges be ‘hard to make stick’? That is absurd. In the court of public opinion, this report is the judge and jury. A player named by Mitchell will be tainted forever, even if it is based only on rumor and hearsay, which most accusations will. A player should not be named unless proof is provided, and how could they obtain proof without investigatory powers? This report is a farce.
Doreen,
It’s a popularity contest at this point.
I’ll take Varitek and Nixon and hopefully Johnnys Rois were when he was a red sox, hopefully he took a lot in 04
can someone link to the unofficial list?
If David Ortiz is not on the list than it is a bunch of crap.
Doreen, I agree with you and it’s even worse that Mitchell cannot be touched with legal action after the names have been revealed. It’s somewhat unfair that some of these players in the league will have their credibility tainted and their reputations damaged, and that the players will not be able to do anything about it. I don’t think that Andy Pettitte has done anything wrong, but I knew that his name would come out after Clemens, just because he is a very close friend of Roger’s.
Drip – Drip – Drip
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From an earlier thread. I moved it up since the “conflict of interest” thing will be here all day.
Kill-Schill:
“The ethical canon requires a lawyer to recuse himself at the mere appearance of a conflict of interest, regardless of whether one exists or not.â€
I’m not saying that there isn’t some type of conflict given Mitchell’s connection to the Sox, but I’m not sure it’s governed by the Canons of Legal Ethics.
Lawyers are directed to “avoid†even the appearance of impropriety, and, separately to avoid real or potential conflicts of interest. The word “avoid†leaves open many paths. Most, not all, legal conflicts of interest can be waived by a client after disclosure.
Assuming Mitchell is acting as a lawyer in this engagement, who is the client? Not the Yankees or Sox, but more likely MLB, an entity with a separate legal identity and existence from any of the individual teams and whose decision-maker is the Commissioner, Bud Selig. Thus, Mitchell’s connection to the Sox may be a conflict from the Yankees’ perspective, but neither they nor the Sox are Mitchell’s clients.
Selig, the client, doesn’t think his lawyer has a conflict of interest that might lead Mitchell to do other than zealously champion the rights of his client, MLB, and ethically do his job. For all we know Selig has explicitly waived any disclosed conflict in a document he gave to Mitchell.
But maybe Mitchell isn’t acting as a lawyer in this case at all, and not giving any legal advice or rendering any legal opinions. Rather he is working as an investigator hired to make findings and recommendations to MLB. A conflict under those circumstances is not as easily defined or remedied.
If Damon is on the list does he count as Sox or Yankees?
Also, Nomar, Lenny Dystra, Pudge, Eric Gagne and, get this, Albert Pujols are on the list being sent around.
No idea if this is legit or not. I suspect it is because you knew, at some point, someone would release this earlier than expected.
Damon definitely hasn’t done roids with us, that’s for sure.
Ugiess:
Hes looked upon more as a Yankee and everyone knows it.
Wasn’t Pettitte in the Grimsley affidavid anyway? So what’s all the fuzz about…
I know a lot of you want to see a Manny or Ortiz in there but if Varitek is really on that list it’s a huge hit. He is their captain and the heart beat of that team. Imagine if Jeter were on that list?
WOW, Pujols….
Regardless of whether the report names prominent Red Sox players or not, I find it hard to trust the report or even to care what it says. Everyone knows steroids were a problem. Frankly, who cares. It is like saying cocaine was a problem in the ’80s. It is obvious, everyone knows it, move on. I will not think less of Pettitte if he is named in this ridiculous report. I will think no less of Clemens either. I don’t care.
SJ44, call your best friend, A-Rod and let him know he’s not going to be on the list.. We need to ease his mind.
I’ve seen the list don’t know if it’s real or not though. But if it is then it’s not a bit deal. There where no surprises. Damon,Farnsworth,Pettitte is not big.
my two: Luis Gonzalez and Sean Greene.
Without positive tests, this name dropping in the report won’t do much. In baseball, pretty much everyone and their mother has been accused of using PEDs. Clemens and Pettite have been cited in the past as alleged users of anabolic steroids (re: implicated by Jason Grimsley over a year ago). Does the fact that these rumors will now be written in an official report change things? I suppose it’s a PR blow, but the story hasn’t changed one bit. It’s still just rumors and hearsay.
that list is suspect a random guy posted it on his site we’ll see..though I have heard the Pujols rumors before
Let me apologize to the blog in advanced. My name will be on that list.
Hey Pete
This report has zero credibility because a former Red Sox employee led this investigation. Why was this investigation led by a former employee of any M.L.B. team (of all the people in the world)?
Only players who were found to have done steroids by random drug tests were the ones on steroids, period, end of story, case closed.
This report is meaningless. People attend games, watch them on tv, listen to them on the radio, buy merch and concessions in record numbers thus teams and players are raking in record profits and salaries. People visit your blog in record numbers relative to other baseball blogs.
Oh b.t.w. you baseball writers voted Barry Bonds the N.L.M.V.P. four years in a row (2001-2004) thus have zero credibiity when you call him a cheater which he is not because no one has proven it.
If there is a god in heaven the Captain’s name will not even be RUMORED to be on this list.
Ryan,
where did you get that list? SJ is that list the one you seen?
Here is a link that answers a question about Mitchell’s chances of being sued and the ramifications. I think Sj may have answered it already.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=3142722
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What if Mitchell is wrong and names a player who never used drugs?
If a player, with some help from the union, could show that Mitchell was wrong, it would be a legal and public relations disaster for Mitchell and Major League Baseball. A single blunder would cast doubt on the entire report. Even the most egregious evidence of drug use would become dubious. And the player would be in court seeking money damages for the defaming of his character and integrity. His lawsuit would be embarrassing and expensive. It would be embarrassing for Mitchell and expensive for MLB. Selig has promised Mitchell that MLB would pay liabilities that result from Mitchell’s work. It’s called an “indemnification†agreement, and it would require MLB to pay lawyers to defend Mitchell’s work and pay judgments that result from mistakes.
I have to agree with With Hunt that any baseball writer who voted for Bonds for MVP must seriously be questioned if they call him a cheater now. It will be interesting to see how those same people vote 5 years from now when Bonds is eligible for the Hall of Fame.
C’mon, Yank fans. Stop the denial. You have two who played big roles on their championship teams confirmed to have done what has been rumored for years.
And if you doubt the investigator’s integrity, Varitek is reportedly in the report too.
Try being a little objective for once.
I actually think this report will REMOVE some of the stigma attached to this “crime.” First, there better be hard evidence with these accusations. When enough players protest it will make the list seem almost “all-inclusive” with less effect than the constant trickle effect of periodically dropping names. People only care about the record breakers and high profile players anyway. This list will turn out to be a farce turned out by MLB to cover their asses.
Found it on a message board, and its the same list other people have claimed to find.
LOL,
Who is denying anything? There are many people on this board acknoledging the fact that Yankees will be on the list. Its just a matter of who.
Wow, Jason Varitek.. Where’s Big Papi? We all know he’s a juicer…Manny, too.
The list is full of players we’ve suspected before. I guess you can call them surprises here and there but IMO not anything earth shattering.
No player named is going to sue Mitchell unless he really is innocent. If he did, his whole life would be open to inspection under a microscope in a court of law. If he’s guilty, even worse things could come out.
I have seen that list circulating on the internet as well. If that is the list I don’t really think that it is a “bad day” for the Yanks. I think that the Yankees on there are the ones we suspected. And the players we hoped were not on the list (Jeter, Mo, ARod, Posada, O’Neill, Bernie) aren’t.
LOL
Sorry but your calls for being objective are in fact laughable when Selig couldnt bother to be objective when hiring someone to find steroid users.
Some of those guys should ask for a refund. The roids didn’t work.
80-90% of baseball has probably used and that includes the minors. What are we supposed to do about it as fans? Quit the game? That ain’t happening. People love to gossip. Get on with your lives, enjoy the games.
I wonder if there is even any proof. If the only proof they have is testimony from former trainers that claim they gave steroids to players, then it is despicable that player’s name can be dragged through the mud like that. These guys are felons and we are expected to take their word for it.
Papi I can tell you many people in D.R. know he did, Manny and I really, really doubt it
I wonder if any of our players will be suspended. It will be killer for us to lose Pettitte, Farnsworth and Damon for any length of time.
All of this matters because how can we be expected to go with a 20 man roster if 5 of our players are suspended.
Question?
If Clemens is on this list will it hurt his HOF chances?
If our players get suspended and somehow we miss this playoffs by a couple games this season, you can bet Mitchell will be having the last laugh.
If they are suspended, they’ll be replaced on the 25 man roster.
Mick
If I had a vote, I’d say no. Just like Bonds, Clemens was a HOF’er before all the steroid stuff became an issue.
If Clemens is on this list will it hurt his HOF chances?
No.
“No player named is going to sue Mitchell unless he really is innocent. If he did, his whole life would be open to inspection under a microscope in a court of law. If he’s guilty, even worse things could come out.”
LOL:
You are correct, sir!
Steve,
I think in the end you’ll find your own attitude and that of many Yankee fans to be highly laughable, if you’re objective. Mitchell couldn’t have any higher integrity. I predict no one will be able to punch a hold in his report. At the most, someone will dent it a little.
But what matters in the end is the perception of the public. I’m sure there’s unanimous agreement the investigator and his process was objective and fair. Only biased fans of those who were caught will continue to seek excuses and whine.
I have the utmost faith that Mitchell’s report is fair and accurate.
Should read “punch a hole” not “hold”
pat,
Don’t be surprised if bonds doesn’t get in lie mcgwire. I mean like mcgwire.
Without a positive test result, no player can be suspended. Right? If the report is what we think it is (just a more official reiteration of rumors we already know), then I can’t imagine any suspensions would result.
On another note, Selig’s response to criticism of Mitchell’s conflict of interest (from chicagosports.com):
“With all due respect to that point of view, this is a man with an impeccable track record of integrity,” Selig said. “Does anyone actually believe that he is going to compromise the reputation he has made in the Senate, in the Middle East, all around the world, to start doing favors for someone at the end of his career? He was absolutely the right man for this job, and I am very interested in the report he has put together and any recommendations he has.”
… so by that token, any old ex-member of congress is qualified for the job. So why choose the guy that works for a professional baseball team? Shouldn’t “does this guy have a conflict of interest” be item #1 on a list of potential problems?
I’m so sick of this, take it for what it is: steroid era. Bonds is still twice the player (no pun intended) then someone like david segui. Steroids may have helped him hit more home runs, but they didn’t teach him to do it, he is still the most dominant player in the last ten-fifteen years aside from maybe A-Rod and Griffey Jr. (prior to the injuries) the most dominant hitter I’ve seen. Steroids doesn’t alter that fact. This whole thing is just a cover for MLB for turning the other way and cashing in. When we complain about ridiculous contracts given to sub par players its because MLB made a lot of money of steroids. Until we consider the incredible amount of hypocrisy associated with the Mitchell Report, I refuse to take it seriously.
1:30 PM the official list will be released to public
Green Beret
I dont think that is correct. Why dont teams take pitchers that get suspended off the roster so they dont get hurt by the suspension?
Varitek named…but what about Manny and Ortiz? Let’s be honest, everybody is on this stuff. What a farce.
Getting suspended for game actions is different from this. They aren’t going to have a team playing 15-50 games and short 5 players. That penalizes the team and other players. I’m looking for the rules, now.
Not sure if anyone has posted something from a “legit” site but here’s the link from WNBC, here in NY.
http://www.wnbc.com/sports/14845845/detail.html
Giambi, Clemens, Pettitte.
Yankee tradition, Yankee pride, Yankee juicers.
AROD is probably juicing too.
“Varitek named…but what about Manny and Ortiz? Let’s be honest, everybody is on this stuff. What a farce.”
– Do you honestly think that Jeter and Rivera took them?
If anyone has any doubt that Mitchell won’t be sued, look at Bonds. He never touched those guys who wrote Game of Shadows. He didn’t dare go near a court of law.
Good thing they nailed John Rocker….
LOL
Bonds was under investigation by the feds. He couldnt afford to sue and bring even more attention to himself. But guys like Clemens can sue and claim that the trainer was a liar who claimed that he gave Roger and Andy ‘roids. And since the trainer was fired by the Yanks, it is obvious that the trainer has motive to lie about famous Yankees. There is no physical evidence I am sure so he would have no problem lying under oath and not have to worry about perjury.
Hey “Dood”,
Dont turn this into a Yankee-Red Sox thing….they have just as many alleged juicers as we do. Including THE CAPTAIN!
“Hey “Doodâ€,
Dont turn this into a Yankee-Red Sox thing….they have just as many alleged juicers as we do. Including THE CAPTAIN!”
–AMAZING how Yankee fans only a couple hours ago were calling the list a farce because of the fact that Mitchell works for the Sox.
Now suddenly it is totally legit. LMAO
Nixon is on the list as well. And I bet the period of time that Damon is alleged to have purchased steroids was when he was a Red Sox. That’s what Mitchell’s report will say. So there are really 3 Red Sox players on the list. And there’s really no reason to continue to malign Mitchell’s objectivity and integrity. Stop being sore losers.
I call into question his objectivity no matter who is on the list. You cannot allow yourself to be questioned on matter of conflict of interest. He should have kept himself out of it. No matter how many Red Sox names are on the list or how few Yankees are on the list, it just isnt right ethically because there is always the chance that he might be called into question. And what clearly shows his flaunting of that conflict is that he was seen at Red Sox game this season wearing a Red Sox cap with his son asking Red Sox players for autographs. That is not the way to prove yourself to be above reproach.
Steve,
Of course Bonds could afford to sue — if he was innocent! That’s the point. If the authors of Game of Shadows were wrong, then Bonds had nothing to lose but MILLIONS to gain by suing them in court.
And sure Clemens can sue. I never said he couldn’t. The point is he won’t. I guarantee you. Because the last thing he’ll want is that part of his life put under a microscope in court. Unless, of course he’s innocent. They’d call all the Yankees as witnesses, including Pettitte, past and present Yankee trainers and doctors, as well as those for the Jays and Astros. Believe me, I bet not one player brings a lawsuit in this matter … because the report is accurate and a suit could tarnish their reps even more.
So now that these names are out, what exactly is going to be done? We all just sit back and cry about it? I thought this was a waste before and I still feel that way.
Such shortsightedness. The Mitchell report is coming out, and all anyone is worried about is the Red Sox. Sure. The Red Sox will be the barometer by which the validity of Mitchell’s report is measured. Right. I hope to god there are Red Sox on the list just to shut up you demented conspiracy theorists.
I’m rather skeptical of the Clemens & Pettitte accusations. They were sketch the first time they came up (Grimsley insists he told the feds that he knew nothing about them). Pettitte’s probably near the bottom of the list of guy’s you’d expect to do it.
For Clemens though… I used to be willing to believe it. But look at the people we know used steroids. Canseco, McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Giambi, Sheffield, for starters. Their bodies all broke down early. They had some really good years, then just broke down. But Clemens… he’s been remarkably healthy. Yeah, the past few years he’s had some injury issues, but for a 45 year old with a 24 year career, he’s amazingly healthy.
And on that note, Pettitte has been relatively healthy as well. He’s had a few arm issues, but just typical pitcher issues. Not the usual steroid user full body degradation.
Steve, let the public judge whether Mitchell was objective. As Selig said, he’s not going to jeopardize his excellent reputation built over a lifetime just to make fans of the baseball team he roots for happy. Are you nuts?
You can whine all you want. But this is the court of public opinion right now. I doubt the opinion you hold on Mitchell is winning in that court.
To steal from another board and put this in perspective…
“Sure, George Mitchell has served as the President pro tempore, Senate majority leader, US Special envoy to Northern Ireland helping to head up the peace process, Chancellor of the Queen’s University of Belfast, founded an institute (Mitchell Institute) which helps kids in Maine get to college, was partner and Chairman of the largest law firm in the world, Co-Chairman of the Task Force on the United Nations, professor at Leeds Metropolitan University’s School of Applied Global Ethics, served as attorney for the antitrust division of the Department of Justice, Chairman of the Walt Disney Corporation, and was offered a seat on the Supreme Court which he turned down to focus on his health care work in the Senate, but this is bigger than all of that. He’s going to screw the Yankees!”
These are the same guys we know and love as players, and they are going to deserve our support no matter what. There will be enough haters out there, trust me.
Let’s wait until 2:00 PM, and let’s be reasonable about all this.
McCarthy’s report, err I mean Mitchell’s report holds no water. It was reported on ESPN that even Mitchell admits without the testimony of one person they got nothing. You wouldn’t even write a book with one person’s account, let alone publicly “black list” people.
… Not a credible book anyway.
LOL
It has nothing to do with what actually happened. It has to do with perception. Mitchell is himself a former senator. Publicly elected officials are often in situations where the appearance of impropriety is often just as bad as any impropriety itself. He should have treated this situation as he would if he were still a senator. He should have refused the job. The fact that he didnt refuse the jobs shows that he didnt care about whether his actions looked improper. And that to me reeks of having an agenda. People can say all they want that he wouldnt ruin his reputation but if he cared so much about his reputation he himself should have never put himself in the position where his reputation could have been questioned.
Just because someone isn’t on the list doesn’t mean he didn’t do it; it just means he was either luckier or smarter.
So you think a guy with that track record would risk the integrity of his life’s work to protect David Ortiz?
Seriously?
Get a grip people.
And for the record, I dont think he actively was looking to screw the Yankees but lots of people do things they wouldnt do when they own purposes are involved. He was being paid by the Red Sox and will be paid by them once this is over. If you dont think that affected his decisionmaking during this “investigation” you are deluding yourself. I dont care how many peace treaties he negotiated or sick kids he helped, self preservation is the highest law.
Whatever the names on the list…But having Andy P and Clemens will have and effect on their careers.Like it or not The Rocket was a winner in pinstripes and you all have to respect that.It hurts me to see those names there.
JimmyQuick
Do you not understand? He should have never allowed his integrity to come into question in the first place? If he is so honorable why doesnt he go into a hotel with a hooker and some cocaine? Then he can come out and say “I would never risk my reputation just to have sex with a hooker and do some blow.” Just because it is illogical that someone would risk their reputation does not make it impossible.
I realize that Steve, but we’re not working in an ethical vacuum here, we’re talking about the real world. The guy deserves the benefit of the doubt, let’s wait until we see his conclusions, his process and methods, and evidence, then pass judgment.
Grant, I am sure Mitchell did NOT say “I got nothing.”
Yes, his report is legitimate. While it didn’t get everything, it got a lot.
To be clear, Selig wasn’t going to allow this to be done outside of baseball, he just wasn’t. I think that was a mistake, but if it had to be done inside of the baseball world, I think they picked the best possible guy for the job, despite his affiliation with the Red Sox.
JimmyQuick
I wouldnt have had a problem giving him the benefit of the doubt until I heard he was at a Red Sox game using tickets given to him by the team asking for autographs from Red Sox players. He invited this criticism upon himself. He should have stayed away from baseball completely until the investigation was complete. You cant argue with that poor decision.
Steve, when an issue of conflict of interest arises in a court of law, people aren’t necessarily excused. A judge decides whether the conflict of interest is such that it would prevent the person from being objective. Oftentimes the person stays.
A perceived conflict of interest isn’t necessarily viewed that way to all people. Maybe you see one. But Selig, and I’m sure many others in MLB, didn’t. And the public can make up their own minds. You will lose on this one. I know you will.
Am I going to lose? Really? When people on EPSN and other networks are already saying that this report loses credibility if there are no big name Red Sox on there? If they are already questioning it before the list comes out beilieve me they will question it even more after it comes out. People will realize that Mitchell cannot expect to have any credibility when was flaunting his relationship with one team over the other 29 teams. It is inevitable.
Steve,
Was Mitchell’s interest in pleasing Red Sox fans greater than his interest in maintaining his lofty reputation that he’s built over a lifetime?
It’s simply non-sensical to think it was. Those who bring up the issue are ridiculous and only looking to defend the cheaters.
Steve, when the dust settles, everyone will see his report is fair. You WILL lose on this issue. Tell me, who are these bright legal minds questioning his integrity? Kruk? Steve Phillips? Please.
Actually, I am talking about guys who have done an investigation into the Mitchell “investigation.” Howard Bryant in particular. There are other newspaper columnists and other prominent media members. And if anyone can ruin the credibility of someone it is the media.
LOL
Mitchell’s interest was in protecting himself. He works for the Red Sox and gets paid by them. You can say all you want that nobody would risk their reputation but the fact remains people have done far worse over far less important things. This guy had no problem flaunting his affiliation with a team and he brought the criticism on himself.
Isn’t Pettitte deeply religious?
WOW, what a phony.
26* Rings i guess, huh guys? so much for patriots being the only cheaters.
Steve, for every columnist you can find who questions Mitchell’s integrity, I can find you 3 or 4 who don’t. You are in the minority on this issue and when the dust settles the public will not see things your way. You will lose.
No one seriously believes that he would put his impeccable reputation on the line to please Red Sox fans or to get a few dollars from the Red Sox (if he does get paid by them). This man is already rich. Your notions are just ridiculous.
And I read part of Bryant’s article. It was very poorly written. Not the writing itself, but the logic used.
“No one seriously believes that he would put his impeccable reputation on the line”
-He’s not a Yankee, how could he have an unpeccable rep?
LOL
Wow when you dont agree with something you question the logic of his article? Sorry but a lot of other people dont question his logic and they wont once they see how slanted this report is. It has already started with ESPN showing video of Andy and Roger working out together like it they are both injecting each other.
What the hell does being religious have to do with taking enhancers? Get real.
Anyone denying that this is a serious conflict of interest is delusional. I’ve been saying that since Mitchell was appointed. He works in the Red Sox front office! Oh, and the night before the press conference, two Yankees names are leaked. Whoopsy! Now every headline is “Clemens accused of Juicing,” or “Pettitte is juic’in up.” ESPN has been rolling footage of the two of them working out, like it’s this huge scandal.
What a bunch of crap, the guy used his power to slander the Yankees. ESPN has a headline right now, “Pinstripes in Peril.” The article says has quotes like, “It’ll be a bad day in the Bronx.” Really? Out of all the teams, and all the players we KNOW have used steroids or are using them, the New York Yankees get slammed? That’s just ridiculous. I’m tired of the media taking glee in Yankees failures. The TBS coverage of the ALDS was the straw that broke the camel’s back; this is just beating a dead horse.
this hole thing is a joke. I agree with many ofthe remarks here. Where is BIG PAPI and MANNYS name. Big PAPI comes from now where and all of a sudden is King kong with homers. manny looks like he takes more than just steroids,if you know what I mean.his actions prove it. Mitchells report is so biased no one with any brains is going to take it seriously. Leaving the 3 and 4 hitters for the redsox off the list proves its a joke. As far a Andy Pettite he is concerned I think he has a good explanation if given the chance.
“Where is BIG PAPI and MANNYS name.”
Maybe they’re not there because, you know, they didn’t cheat?
Why does everyone assume Papi and Manny are on roids? Because they’re great hitters?
Check Babe Ruth’s year-by-year stats when he was young. I guess he was juicing too.
The bottom line, no one has ever come forth with any evidence, or even smoke, that Ortiz and Manny have had any “help.” Just idle gossip by yahoos on Yankee fan sites.
I understand why Yankee fans are embarrassed and hurt by the fact that their team’s 1996-2000 “dynasty” has now been revealed as a sham, but don’t take it out on Red Sox players that are playing clean.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/12/14/2007-12-14_mitchell_report_rocks_yankees-3.html