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		<title>By: UtilityMan</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/14/vizcaino-lands-in-milwaukee/#comment-229072</link>
		<dc:creator>UtilityMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are all the people that said the Viz was going to get 3 or 4 yrs???And like 4 Million per yr for a total of 12 Million???

I still would have taken The Viz back for that deal 2 yrs at 7.5 Million.Ill say it again...We knew what kind of pitcher he was for us in 2007.Who besides Mariano was somewhat reliable in the bullpen last yr??? Luis Vizcaino.

Its nice to get the pick,as a reward for losing your own free agent.I will miss having him as an option in 2008.

So ya  got yer wish whozat.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are all the people that said the Viz was going to get 3 or 4 yrs?<cite>And like 4 Million per yr for a total of 12 Million</cite>?</p>
<p>I still would have taken The Viz back for that deal 2 yrs at 7.5 Million.Ill say it again&#8230;We knew what kind of pitcher he was for us in 2007.Who besides Mariano was somewhat reliable in the bullpen last yr??? Luis Vizcaino.</p>
<p>Its nice to get the pick,as a reward for losing your own free agent.I will miss having him as an option in 2008.</p>
<p>So ya  got yer wish whozat&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Clark</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/14/vizcaino-lands-in-milwaukee/#comment-229064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Vizcaino didn't insult our intelligence by saying he was insulted with a one year offer from the Yankees. Like one 67 year old man did two months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Vizcaino didn&#8217;t insult our intelligence by saying he was insulted with a one year offer from the Yankees. Like one 67 year old man did two months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm personally sorry to see Vizcaino go.  I think he's got much better stuff than Hawkins.  I was all for letting him walk when he was rumored to want 4 years and $20 million but 2 years and $7 million doesn't seem too much to me. I'm also a bit confused by people so enamored with the sandwich pick.  Yeah, I know that those picks were converted into Joba and Kennedy when we lost Gordon.  But you don't get that lucky often.  Its a pretty schizophrenic philosophy to think young stud pitchers grow on trees to be plucked with sandwich picks but that at the same time you can't afford to include any in a trade to get Santanna, the best pitcher in baseball.

I'm still all for doing any of the Santanna trades mentioned but I always was and don't really get how Pettite's being named in the Mitchell report should factor in one way or another.  Its much to do about nothing in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m personally sorry to see Vizcaino go.  I think he&#8217;s got much better stuff than Hawkins.  I was all for letting him walk when he was rumored to want 4 years and $20 million but 2 years and $7 million doesn&#8217;t seem too much to me. I&#8217;m also a bit confused by people so enamored with the sandwich pick.  Yeah, I know that those picks were converted into Joba and Kennedy when we lost Gordon.  But you don&#8217;t get that lucky often.  Its a pretty schizophrenic philosophy to think young stud pitchers grow on trees to be plucked with sandwich picks but that at the same time you can&#8217;t afford to include any in a trade to get Santanna, the best pitcher in baseball.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still all for doing any of the Santanna trades mentioned but I always was and don&#8217;t really get how Pettite&#8217;s being named in the Mitchell report should factor in one way or another.  Its much to do about nothing in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/14/vizcaino-lands-in-milwaukee/#comment-228955</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI according to Tom Haudricourt:

Vizcaino rumor is "complete garbage"
By Tom Haudricourt
Friday, Dec 14 2007, 02:37 PM

Brewers assistant general manager Gord Ash just made me laugh out loud. I asked him if there were any truth to the rumor floating around that the Brewers were going to sign free agent reliever Luis Vizcaino.

"You can put that one in the 'CG' circular file for Complete Garbage," Ash said.

As I suspected, there was nothing to it. The Brewers already have signed four late-inning relievers. Why would they want another?

I'll repeat the promise I made to you at the winter meetings: I will not post false rumors involving the Brewers on this blog. And those of you who do post them as fact in the "comments" file do a disservice to the others who read it and take it as gospel. There's a lot of crap flying around this time of year.

Ash did explain the move of reliever Greg Aquino being put on waivers and being claimed today by Baltimore. Ash said they first considered non-tendering Aquino, who no longer fit in their plans for the start of 2008. Instead, they were able to sign him to a split contract ($500,000 for the majors, $176,00 for the minors) and then place him on waivers, hoping he would clear and report to Class AAA Nashville in the event they needed him down the road.

Ash said they knew all along Aquino might be claimed, and he was -- by the Orioles. So, the Brewers will take the $20,000 waiver fee and move on. It did open a spot on the 40-man roster in the event the Brewers see a player they'd like to sign or trade for.

Ash said the Brewers were still considering both trades and signings but had nothing hot going at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI according to Tom Haudricourt:</p>
<p>Vizcaino rumor is &#8220;complete garbage&#8221;<br />
By Tom Haudricourt<br />
Friday, Dec 14 2007, 02:37 PM</p>
<p>Brewers assistant general manager Gord Ash just made me laugh out loud. I asked him if there were any truth to the rumor floating around that the Brewers were going to sign free agent reliever Luis Vizcaino.</p>
<p>&#8220;You can put that one in the &#8216;CG&#8217; circular file for Complete Garbage,&#8221; Ash said.</p>
<p>As I suspected, there was nothing to it. The Brewers already have signed four late-inning relievers. Why would they want another?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll repeat the promise I made to you at the winter meetings: I will not post false rumors involving the Brewers on this blog. And those of you who do post them as fact in the &#8220;comments&#8221; file do a disservice to the others who read it and take it as gospel. There&#8217;s a lot of crap flying around this time of year.</p>
<p>Ash did explain the move of reliever Greg Aquino being put on waivers and being claimed today by Baltimore. Ash said they first considered non-tendering Aquino, who no longer fit in their plans for the start of 2008. Instead, they were able to sign him to a split contract ($500,000 for the majors, $176,00 for the minors) and then place him on waivers, hoping he would clear and report to Class AAA Nashville in the event they needed him down the road.</p>
<p>Ash said they knew all along Aquino might be claimed, and he was&#8212;by the Orioles. So, the Brewers will take the $20,000 waiver fee and move on. It did open a spot on the 40-man roster in the event the Brewers see a player they&#8217;d like to sign or trade for.</p>
<p>Ash said the Brewers were still considering both trades and signings but had nothing hot going at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: DLev</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again:  Wang and Pettite last year were 34-16 with a 3.81 ERA in 423 innings.

The rest of the starters were 31-31 with a 5.21 ERA in 499 innings.

The relievers were 29-21 with a 4.35 ERA in 530 innings.

The Yankees don't need Santana.  If Hughes, Kennedy, and Chamberlain can have a 4.35 ERA between them, they have a good chance of winning more than 95 games if the relievers are no better than last year.

The Viz was pretty much an average reliever for them last year.  The problem is going to be replacing guys who were better than 4.35 -- Proctor and Chamberlain being the most prominent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again:  Wang and Pettite last year were 34-16 with a 3.81 ERA in 423 innings.</p>
<p>The rest of the starters were 31-31 with a 5.21 ERA in 499 innings.</p>
<p>The relievers were 29-21 with a 4.35 ERA in 530 innings.</p>
<p>The Yankees don&#8217;t need Santana.  If Hughes, Kennedy, and Chamberlain can have a 4.35 ERA between them, they have a good chance of winning more than 95 games if the relievers are no better than last year.</p>
<p>The Viz was pretty much an average reliever for them last year.  The problem is going to be replacing guys who were better than 4.35&#8212;Proctor and Chamberlain being the most prominent.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boston Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crew - good luck with your predicitons... at least you have the Packers. Either way, saying the Brewers are the favorite in the NL Central is like saying Kathy Bates is better looking that Bea Arthur and Roseanne Barr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crew &#8211; good luck with your predicitons&#8230; at least you have the Packers. Either way, saying the Brewers are the favorite in the NL Central is like saying Kathy Bates is better looking that Bea Arthur and Roseanne Barr.</p>
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		<title>By: Crew in NB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crew in NB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I can see how New Yorkers would question the Brewers since they have no idea what is going on.  Our lineup is set and our biggest weakness is the bullpen.  I don't think we signed Vizcaino, we actually don't need to.  Gagne for one year is low risk.  Signing Cordero was not an option with that contract.  He was starting to tail off at the end of the year. Brewers should be the favorite in the Central.  Cubs made splash moves but the Brewers have addressed their weaknesses.. Also, with that pitching staff the Yanks have, you might as well forget making the World Series.  Your starting pitchers are a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I can see how New Yorkers would question the Brewers since they have no idea what is going on.  Our lineup is set and our biggest weakness is the bullpen.  I don&#8217;t think we signed Vizcaino, we actually don&#8217;t need to.  Gagne for one year is low risk.  Signing Cordero was not an option with that contract.  He was starting to tail off at the end of the year. Brewers should be the favorite in the Central.  Cubs made splash moves but the Brewers have addressed their weaknesses.. Also, with that pitching staff the Yanks have, you might as well forget making the World Series.  Your starting pitchers are a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainsCorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptainsCorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vizcaino is only getting $7m for 2 years....The reports last week made it seem like he was getting almost $15m. Cashman should of just gave him the money. I would of much rather they got him for the extra money then give Hawkins $4m and he will probably be soo bad that they will spend another $3-4m trying to replace him with kids in the minors. Viz was good for the most part last year, until Torre got his hands on him. If healthy he would of been fine next year, or atleast I would rather take a gamble on him again rather Hawkins who reminds me of Farnsworth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vizcaino is only getting $7m for 2 years&#8230;.The reports last week made it seem like he was getting almost $15m. Cashman should of just gave him the money. I would of much rather they got him for the extra money then give Hawkins $4m and he will probably be soo bad that they will spend another $3-4m trying to replace him with kids in the minors. Viz was good for the most part last year, until Torre got his hands on him. If healthy he would of been fine next year, or atleast I would rather take a gamble on him again rather Hawkins who reminds me of Farnsworth.</p>
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		<title>By: The Fallen Phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Fallen Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely and respectfully disagree about reversing gears on Santana.  As has said before, you don't compromise your plan or your valuations of players for political reasons--it's that sort of thing that leads to mistakes in bidding and bargaining.

After you've made a valuation of a player, you should stick it it, particularly when you're faced with a Winner's Curse situation, which I think Cashman is acutely aware of.  If Cashman wasn't willing to part with Hughes/Melky/Horne before the Mitchell Report, he sure as Hell shouldn't be willing to part with them afterwards.

Besides, there aren't too many reports that the Red Sox and Twins have come any closer to a deal.  There's a decent enough chance that no move is made, and the Yankees can pluck Santana from the Free Agent market.

But that just underscores my initial point: don't overbid for Santana, especially if you weren't willing to overbid before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely and respectfully disagree about reversing gears on Santana.  As has said before, you don&#8217;t compromise your plan or your valuations of players for political reasons&#8212;it&#8217;s that sort of thing that leads to mistakes in bidding and bargaining.</p>
<p>After you&#8217;ve made a valuation of a player, you should stick it it, particularly when you&#8217;re faced with a Winner&#8217;s Curse situation, which I think Cashman is acutely aware of.  If Cashman wasn&#8217;t willing to part with Hughes/Melky/Horne before the Mitchell Report, he sure as Hell shouldn&#8217;t be willing to part with them afterwards.</p>
<p>Besides, there aren&#8217;t too many reports that the Red Sox and Twins have come any closer to a deal.  There&#8217;s a decent enough chance that no move is made, and the Yankees can pluck Santana from the Free Agent market.</p>
<p>But that just underscores my initial point: don&#8217;t overbid for Santana, especially if you weren&#8217;t willing to overbid before.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Herbstreit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Herbstreit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blargh i disagree. it was a pretty sh*tty attempt at humor that fell flat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blargh i disagree. it was a pretty sh*tty attempt at humor that fell flat.</p>
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