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		<title>By: Ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>tessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you provide more information on this? i have read other websites that are on similar subjects.</description>
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		<title>By: FYI</title>
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		<dc:creator>FYI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pettitte used HGH twice - so says the Mitchell Report and so says Pettitte. We can agree Pettitte shouldn&#039;t have used HGH. Now can someone tell me what benefit Pettitte got from two injections? I don&#039;t know the answer. Certainly, Pettitte&#039;s two injections can&#039;t be compared to the allegations against Clemens or Bonds or most others.
Aside from being a NY Yankee and part of the whining from Mets fans about steroid and the 2000 World Series (I remember a couple great plays by Jeter and other Yanks, as well. And Mariano getting Piazza out) Pettitte is a minor figure in all this steroids rage - from what we know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pettitte used HGH twice &#8211; so says the Mitchell Report and so says Pettitte. We can agree Pettitte shouldn&#8217;t have used HGH. Now can someone tell me what benefit Pettitte got from two injections? I don&#8217;t know the answer. Certainly, Pettitte&#8217;s two injections can&#8217;t be compared to the allegations against Clemens or Bonds or most others.<br />
Aside from being a NY Yankee and part of the whining from Mets fans about steroid and the 2000 World Series (I remember a couple great plays by Jeter and other Yanks, as well. And Mariano getting Piazza out) Pettitte is a minor figure in all this steroids rage &#8211; from what we know.</p>
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		<title>By: PAT M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAT M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What many forget about the 04 debacle, was the loss of John Olerod......His injury I believe was just as important as the bullpen arms finally hitting empty.....Tony Clark is not and should never be considered as an option for 08...Shame his linedrive didn&#039;t stay in the park..I try to let that series go, but it still haunts me much as that 9th inning in Arizona back in November 2001.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What many forget about the 04 debacle, was the loss of John Olerod&#8230;&#8230;His injury I believe was just as important as the bullpen arms finally hitting empty&#8230;..Tony Clark is not and should never be considered as an option for 08&#8230;Shame his linedrive didn&#8217;t stay in the park..I try to let that series go, but it still haunts me much as that 9th inning in Arizona back in November 2001&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: The Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony Clark is a nice guy, and the too-high hop in game 5 of the &#039;04 ALCS is unfortunate.  The worst at bat he had, however, was in game 6, bottom of the ninth, two on, Yanks down 4-2 and he took a 90-mph cupcake right down the center of the plate from Keith Foulke.  A horrid mistake pitch that should have made Tony into Tony-f&#039;ing-Clark just as Aaron Boone and Bucky Dent had been renamed before in New England.  

Clark looked at it.  

He eventually struck out.  

The Yanks tanked.  

Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Clark is a nice guy, and the too-high hop in game 5 of the &#8217;04 ALCS is unfortunate.  The worst at bat he had, however, was in game 6, bottom of the ninth, two on, Yanks down 4-2 and he took a 90-mph cupcake right down the center of the plate from Keith Foulke.  A horrid mistake pitch that should have made Tony into Tony-f&#8217;ing-Clark just as Aaron Boone and Bucky Dent had been renamed before in New England.  </p>
<p>Clark looked at it.  </p>
<p>He eventually struck out.  </p>
<p>The Yanks tanked.  </p>
<p>Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete --  Please stop relying on the nuance of the Mitchell report because it has more holes than swiss cheese. 

(1) The MLB Drug Policy SAYS NOTHING about unnamed prescription drugs being used without a prescription violating the drug policy.  You keep relying on Mitchell&#039;s reliance on a single 36 year old MLB memo to claim it is the use of prescription drugs without a prescription violated MLB&#039;s drug policy.  As you should be aware as a learned baseball reporter, MLB policy in this area is subject to the CBA and does not just get handed down from generation to generation.  Indeed, Selig can try to do just about anything in the &quot;best interest of baseball,&quot; but if he uses that to try and discipline players on a subject matter that is specically covered by the collective bargaining agreement and his decisions are challenged in court, he will very likely lose.

(2) All of what is written about McNamee&#039;s statements about administering or giving steroids or HGH to players is about the period form 2000 through 2002.  However, all of the corroborating evidence (from Radinski statements, documents, phone records) about McNamee&#039;s purchase of steroids and HGH appears to be from 2003 and later.  Why is there no information in the report about who was given these perfomance enhancers in 2003 and later?  Why is there no corroborating evidence for the period prior to 2003? According to the report, McNamee didn&#039;t give Clemens or Pettitte any &quot;stuff&quot; after 2002 and he continued to purchase too much for personal consumption.

The report is little more than an anecdotal patchwork assembled by a man working under the appearance of a conflict of interest.  Among other things, Mitchell should provide ALL of his evidence -- including the full transcripts of the conversations his office had with McNamee and Radinski -- to the public.  There are far too many holes in a report that rambles on for over 400 pages and cost over $20 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete &#8212;  Please stop relying on the nuance of the Mitchell report because it has more holes than swiss cheese. </p>
<p>(1) The MLB Drug Policy SAYS NOTHING about unnamed prescription drugs being used without a prescription violating the drug policy.  You keep relying on Mitchell&#8217;s reliance on a single 36 year old MLB memo to claim it is the use of prescription drugs without a prescription violated MLB&#8217;s drug policy.  As you should be aware as a learned baseball reporter, MLB policy in this area is subject to the CBA and does not just get handed down from generation to generation.  Indeed, Selig can try to do just about anything in the &#8220;best interest of baseball,&#8221; but if he uses that to try and discipline players on a subject matter that is specically covered by the collective bargaining agreement and his decisions are challenged in court, he will very likely lose.</p>
<p>(2) All of what is written about McNamee&#8217;s statements about administering or giving steroids or HGH to players is about the period form 2000 through 2002.  However, all of the corroborating evidence (from Radinski statements, documents, phone records) about McNamee&#8217;s purchase of steroids and HGH appears to be from 2003 and later.  Why is there no information in the report about who was given these perfomance enhancers in 2003 and later?  Why is there no corroborating evidence for the period prior to 2003? According to the report, McNamee didn&#8217;t give Clemens or Pettitte any &#8220;stuff&#8221; after 2002 and he continued to purchase too much for personal consumption.</p>
<p>The report is little more than an anecdotal patchwork assembled by a man working under the appearance of a conflict of interest.  Among other things, Mitchell should provide ALL of his evidence &#8212; including the full transcripts of the conversations his office had with McNamee and Radinski &#8212; to the public.  There are far too many holes in a report that rambles on for over 400 pages and cost over $20 million.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Trader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pettitte is guilty of using HGH without a prescription, but my guess is he will not face a suspension and mentally will be unburdened and ready for the season.

Clemens ,on the other hand, after hearing the testimony against him, has deliberately cheated, and although innocent till proven guilty, he&#039;d be best to fess up, before it turns into a Barry Bonds saga.

Doubt Santana will be traded to the Yanks. Why should they give up 2 major league players plus others for Santana and then have to sign him for an extra 6-7 years. That is much more than Oakland received for Haren. None of those players would even start for Minnesota. If the Yankees need to unload 12-13M of salary, Matsui, if he waives his NTC, is the only one who makes sense. Stuck with Mussina and Giambi. There would be a market for Damon, but who leads off-Jeter? Would only see Matsui going to the Mets or a west coast team, and who would be willing to take on his salary, let alone have a need for him?

Bullpen is their weakness. There&#039;s not a one of them I&#039;d trust to come into the game with RISP and one out, to get out of the inning unscathed. Maybe Rivera, but remember he blew 3 of Pettitte&#039;s games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pettitte is guilty of using HGH without a prescription, but my guess is he will not face a suspension and mentally will be unburdened and ready for the season.</p>
<p>Clemens ,on the other hand, after hearing the testimony against him, has deliberately cheated, and although innocent till proven guilty, he&#8217;d be best to fess up, before it turns into a Barry Bonds saga.</p>
<p>Doubt Santana will be traded to the Yanks. Why should they give up 2 major league players plus others for Santana and then have to sign him for an extra 6-7 years. That is much more than Oakland received for Haren. None of those players would even start for Minnesota. If the Yankees need to unload 12-13M of salary, Matsui, if he waives his NTC, is the only one who makes sense. Stuck with Mussina and Giambi. There would be a market for Damon, but who leads off-Jeter? Would only see Matsui going to the Mets or a west coast team, and who would be willing to take on his salary, let alone have a need for him?</p>
<p>Bullpen is their weakness. There&#8217;s not a one of them I&#8217;d trust to come into the game with RISP and one out, to get out of the inning unscathed. Maybe Rivera, but remember he blew 3 of Pettitte&#8217;s games.</p>
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		<title>By: frankd</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I just like Petite and prefer to give him a pass but consider this. We&#039;re back in 2002 I can remember getting emails telling me that HGH would help me age better. HGH would help me recover from various ailments, etc. Legal or not this was going on. I&#039;m thinking that Petite has better things to do then research for medications to help his &quot;elbow&quot; heal and in walks an employee of the team, a trainer who has given you various treatments since you have been with the team. I can imagine him letting this trainer help his recovery without asking if this is legal or if he had a presciption. Five years later were all a lot smarter but as for Andy he took two treatments and quit which is a lot better than someone who was on a career plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I just like Petite and prefer to give him a pass but consider this. We&#8217;re back in 2002 I can remember getting emails telling me that HGH would help me age better. HGH would help me recover from various ailments, etc. Legal or not this was going on. I&#8217;m thinking that Petite has better things to do then research for medications to help his &#8220;elbow&#8221; heal and in walks an employee of the team, a trainer who has given you various treatments since you have been with the team. I can imagine him letting this trainer help his recovery without asking if this is legal or if he had a presciption. Five years later were all a lot smarter but as for Andy he took two treatments and quit which is a lot better than someone who was on a career plan.</p>
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		<title>By: The Biz Markie</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Biz Markie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, the only problem I have with your take on Pettitte&#039;s use of HGH is your insistence on painting this as a black and white issue without taking into account the controversy within the medical community over the use of HGH.  I agree with you that it is an unconventional, experimental treatment and has not been demonstrated as a reliable healing aid in any large studies, but there are some respectable doctors that feel it helps with recuperation.  

For example, NYU professor Gary Walder noted in a recent article that although more research is needed, it is generally felt by those who work in the field of physical therapy that HGH, &quot;can be a reasonably effective recovery tool.&quot;  Again I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s use has been legitimately established or that it is widely promoted, but by not even acknowledging the differing opinions of HGH, you wrongly imply that Pettitte&#039;s explanation is insincere and unfounded.  I&#039;m sorry but he deserves better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, the only problem I have with your take on Pettitte&#8217;s use of HGH is your insistence on painting this as a black and white issue without taking into account the controversy within the medical community over the use of HGH.  I agree with you that it is an unconventional, experimental treatment and has not been demonstrated as a reliable healing aid in any large studies, but there are some respectable doctors that feel it helps with recuperation.  </p>
<p>For example, NYU professor Gary Walder noted in a recent article that although more research is needed, it is generally felt by those who work in the field of physical therapy that HGH, &#8220;can be a reasonably effective recovery tool.&#8221;  Again I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s use has been legitimately established or that it is widely promoted, but by not even acknowledging the differing opinions of HGH, you wrongly imply that Pettitte&#8217;s explanation is insincere and unfounded.  I&#8217;m sorry but he deserves better.</p>
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		<title>By: Yazman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike R.,

I think we&#039;re on the same page. The blog post quoted by Boston Dave targeted IPK for 152 innings, and I simply meant to say that, more than PH or JC, the Yanks may want him to have more than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike R.,</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re on the same page. The blog post quoted by Boston Dave targeted IPK for 152 innings, and I simply meant to say that, more than PH or JC, the Yanks may want him to have more than that.</p>
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