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		<title>By: bodhisattva</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/17/yankees-officially-sign-rivera/comment-page-1/#comment-231570</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhisattva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To MarkK:

What a beautiful post. I&#039;m sure Rivera would love to know that he had this centering effect on you. Please consider learning about qi gong, it will make you strong forever. Rivera is an avatar who happens to be a transcendently talented relief pitcher. Your soul senses this about him. God bless you (and the Yankees) and stay well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To MarkK:</p>
<p>What a beautiful post. I&#8217;m sure Rivera would love to know that he had this centering effect on you. Please consider learning about qi gong, it will make you strong forever. Rivera is an avatar who happens to be a transcendently talented relief pitcher. Your soul senses this about him. God bless you (and the Yankees) and stay well.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkK</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/17/yankees-officially-sign-rivera/comment-page-1/#comment-231015</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to give away too much personal info, but I was just treated (8 weeks) for cancer.  The cancer is gone.  But &quot;one of the little things&quot; of which I thought when focused on beating this was the feeling I get when Mo comes into the game in the 9th.  (Not fixing things for Farnsworth in the 8th. )  It&#039;s a feeling of: &quot;Everything&#039;s gonna be alright.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to give away too much personal info, but I was just treated (8 weeks) for cancer.  The cancer is gone.  But &#8220;one of the little things&#8221; of which I thought when focused on beating this was the feeling I get when Mo comes into the game in the 9th.  (Not fixing things for Farnsworth in the 8th. )  It&#8217;s a feeling of: &#8220;Everything&#8217;s gonna be alright.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dark Side? It is the dark side now, but it was not the dark side in 2002. I wish people would stop judging events that happened 5-10 years ago with the opinions they have now. I am not apologizing for the players--I&#039;m accepting of the reality. Just like greenies, this is the big time, this is how you do it, and there is no one in the game publicly saying otherwise. There isn&#039;t an industry in the world that doesn&#039;t have its shady secrets. We know insider trading goes on. We know there are all sorts of lobbiest breaking laws in the interest of corporate profit. There are always two sets of rules: the rules they tell us, and the rules they actually play by. 

About Rivera, I was very surprised by the Yankees offer. I would&#039;ve thought they could&#039;ve offered $45M (or maybe 48) for 4 years instead: It still would&#039;ve been the highest annual average of any reliever, a raise from his last contract, and would&#039;ve avoided all that messy &quot;I want a 4th year&quot; stuff. I do not think Rivera will be a dominant pitcher in 2011, but I bet he will pitch, and that negotiation could be messy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dark Side? It is the dark side now, but it was not the dark side in 2002. I wish people would stop judging events that happened 5-10 years ago with the opinions they have now. I am not apologizing for the players&#8211;I&#8217;m accepting of the reality. Just like greenies, this is the big time, this is how you do it, and there is no one in the game publicly saying otherwise. There isn&#8217;t an industry in the world that doesn&#8217;t have its shady secrets. We know insider trading goes on. We know there are all sorts of lobbiest breaking laws in the interest of corporate profit. There are always two sets of rules: the rules they tell us, and the rules they actually play by. </p>
<p>About Rivera, I was very surprised by the Yankees offer. I would&#8217;ve thought they could&#8217;ve offered $45M (or maybe 48) for 4 years instead: It still would&#8217;ve been the highest annual average of any reliever, a raise from his last contract, and would&#8217;ve avoided all that messy &#8220;I want a 4th year&#8221; stuff. I do not think Rivera will be a dominant pitcher in 2011, but I bet he will pitch, and that negotiation could be messy.</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting quote from Mo about Pettitte&#039;s use of HGH:

&quot;&quot;I might have done the same thing. Who knows?&quot; Rivera said.&quot;

So Andy, by all accounts a stand up guy, used HGH.  And Mo, another by all accounts stand up guy, might have been tempted.

Peter, silly question, is the competitive atmosphere in a locker room so intense that normally good guys would be tempted to stray into the dark side?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting quote from Mo about Pettitte&#8217;s use of HGH:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;I might have done the same thing. Who knows?&#8221; Rivera said.&#8221;</p>
<p>So Andy, by all accounts a stand up guy, used HGH.  And Mo, another by all accounts stand up guy, might have been tempted.</p>
<p>Peter, silly question, is the competitive atmosphere in a locker room so intense that normally good guys would be tempted to stray into the dark side?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonny M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, looking at this press release by the Yankees...it really makes you appreciate Trevor Hoffman.

I always knew Hoffman was good, and always said he was one of the best closers ever, but, just look at the yankee press release about MO, a competitor of his, is mentioned 3 times in 5 paragraphs.

I still think Mo is better, but reading this actually gives me more respect for Hoffman then I had before (yea, I am biased towards MO, but look, he is the best closer of all time, better then Eck, or Smith, or Hoffman, or anyone else), its just that sometimes you really appreciate how good someone is, when you realize how good the next best guy is, and realize, holy crap, our guy is way better then we ever realized.

Think of it this way, look at Ted Williams, and how good he was, and everything about him, he is Hoffman, and realize now, we have the Babe Ruth of closers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, looking at this press release by the Yankees&#8230;it really makes you appreciate Trevor Hoffman.</p>
<p>I always knew Hoffman was good, and always said he was one of the best closers ever, but, just look at the yankee press release about MO, a competitor of his, is mentioned 3 times in 5 paragraphs.</p>
<p>I still think Mo is better, but reading this actually gives me more respect for Hoffman then I had before (yea, I am biased towards MO, but look, he is the best closer of all time, better then Eck, or Smith, or Hoffman, or anyone else), its just that sometimes you really appreciate how good someone is, when you realize how good the next best guy is, and realize, holy crap, our guy is way better then we ever realized.</p>
<p>Think of it this way, look at Ted Williams, and how good he was, and everything about him, he is Hoffman, and realize now, we have the Babe Ruth of closers.</p>
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		<title>By: Abepeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abepeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

I saw Beam signed with Pirates and Rasner signed a fair minor league contract with the Yankees, any word on Matt Desalvo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>I saw Beam signed with Pirates and Rasner signed a fair minor league contract with the Yankees, any word on Matt Desalvo?</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chew on this. 

Both CC Sabathia and Chien Ming wang gave up more earned runs in one post season series than Mo has given up in his entire post season career! Holy Crap! 

CC- 10.1 IP - 12 ER vs. Boston 2007. 
CMW - 5.2 IP - 12 ER vs. Cleveland 2007
MO - 117.1IP, 10ER

Incredible. Keep on rockin&#039; it MO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chew on this. </p>
<p>Both CC Sabathia and Chien Ming wang gave up more earned runs in one post season series than Mo has given up in his entire post season career! Holy Crap! </p>
<p>CC- 10.1 IP &#8211; 12 ER vs. Boston 2007.<br />
CMW &#8211; 5.2 IP &#8211; 12 ER vs. Cleveland 2007<br />
MO &#8211; 117.1IP, 10ER</p>
<p>Incredible. Keep on rockin&#8217; it MO.</p>
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		<title>By: gianthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>gianthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who was let go to give Mo his 40 man roster spot?

And to answer Dave about if Mo can stay our closer all 3 years I&#039;d say no.  One way to deal with that is if we go back into negotiations for Santana again and we already know Hughes would go (which I&#039;m against) then maybe if we add Kennedy in the deal we can land Nathan as well as Santana.  Nathan could be Mo&#039;s super setup man and eventually they can switch rolls.  Otherwise, we deal with it when it comes.  But no I dont think he can last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was let go to give Mo his 40 man roster spot?</p>
<p>And to answer Dave about if Mo can stay our closer all 3 years I&#8217;d say no.  One way to deal with that is if we go back into negotiations for Santana again and we already know Hughes would go (which I&#8217;m against) then maybe if we add Kennedy in the deal we can land Nathan as well as Santana.  Nathan could be Mo&#8217;s super setup man and eventually they can switch rolls.  Otherwise, we deal with it when it comes.  But no I dont think he can last.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of those three yrs, how long will rivera be able to stay our closer? And at what point to we acquire or start training someone as his replacement? Before or after he begins to fall apart?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of those three yrs, how long will rivera be able to stay our closer? And at what point to we acquire or start training someone as his replacement? Before or after he begins to fall apart?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon (Proud supporter of "ALEX BEING ALEX") &#38; dammit SAVE HUGHES !!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon (Proud supporter of "ALEX BEING ALEX") &#38; dammit SAVE HUGHES !!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Girardi won&#039;t abuse him like Torre did, welcome back MO !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Girardi won&#8217;t abuse him like Torre did, welcome back MO !</p>
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