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Happy Winter Solstice!
The days only get longer from here!
If Joba gets busted i will not watch pro baseball anymore
Happy Holidays Peter! Thanks for the great blog. Now back to my hole to hibernate….wake me up when Pitchers and Catchers report. Take care.
If Joba gets caught? I’m pretty sure if he were using something he’d have been caught already… at least one would hope…
The comments above, illustrate the depth of mistrust that the steroid/hgh issue has provoked.
Fans now suspect everyone, even Joba. That is the sad legacy that the cheating players have left to the game and fans which have treated them so well.
4 comments in a half hour?
guess a lot are taking extended weekends…
saucy wheres your 5 best t.v. shows list?
1.24
2.HEROES
3.PRISON BREAK
4.LOST
5.SLEEPER CELL
OR finishing work up so they can leave.
All you have to do is look at Joba’s dad to know he’s not on anything. Genetics, people. He’s the spitting image of his father!
SOS, it’s in the previous thread, but i’ll paste it here too:
top tv shows:
Simpsons
Seinfeld
Sopranos
South Park
i’ll leave it at 4 as to not break the ‘S’ chain…
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Jennifer, i’m actually finished up. just waiting for 12:30
I’m praying they let us out of here early like they did for Thanksgiving…I work for a university here on long island, and its absolutely dead here today! quite depressing to have to be here today
if our movies and tv posts this week have accomplished anything: some of the google ads lately seem to be advertising ‘Adult Swim’….
sure beats charlie chowder!
From the Journal News story, Joba commenting that he’s glad ARod and the other vest re-signed:
“I wouldn’t want to strike out Alex,” Chamberlain said with a wink, “and make him look bad.”
You have to love this kid. Perfect combination of humble and supremely confident.
My favorite TV shows:
The Wire
Dexter
Deadwood
Sleeper Cell
24
other “vets” re-signed
saucy
12:30 YOU SUCK!! I’ll be here to at least 3pm. Other people are leaving but my boss never leaves.
i have off on monday, but not today. but for all purposes, i’m on cruise control right now until about 3:55pm this afternoon.
You all stink!!
Well at least I’m off until Jan 2!! 
i have to be back on Wednesday. but get another 4 day weekend since i’m using my last vacation day on 12/31.
and i’d stay until 6 if i knew i’d get off until the 2nd
Best TV show is The Wire hands down.
On a serious note, given the fact that their source lied to them, shouldn’t the LA Times reveal their source of erroneous information about the Grimsley Affidavit? Confidential sources should not expect confidentiality when their information is proven 100% inaccurate. Time for the Times to name names.
Clare-
Dexter is awesome, did you like the season finale?
TurnTwo-
Excellent point on the last thread about Johan being in the bullpen for his first few seasons, if the Yanks have 6 starters, why not start Joba in the pen at least for the beginning of the season.
Has anybody seen SI.com today? They are running the Grimsley story and have him in a Yankee uniform as the picture. This is just unbelievable, the Yankees were a blip on the radar screen in this guy’s career, in which he played more years for each of Cleveland, the Royals, and Baltimore, yet he gets portrayed as a Yankee. Would it kill the national sports media to be a little less biased?
Anthony: It’s all about the money. Yankees sell and the Indians do not. Do you think a cover story with Paul Byrd would sell?
My favorite 5:
Yankees Baseball
UConn Men’s Basketball
NE Patriots Football
ESPN SportsCenter after one of the above wins
The Simpsons
Other than those, I don’t watch much television ;^)
For those who like The Simpsons. Where does Family Guy rate vs. Simpsons?Just as funny?
Jeremy Affeldt or Trever Miller are the only remaining free agent lefthanders worth any consideration. Otherwise it’s Cashman with stonger than ever pursuit of Damaso Marte.
Any thought of Sean Henn or Chase Wright amounts to …OUCH !!
Family Guy is funny, but the writing in the later episodes has gotten absolutely horrible. Most of the time they’re resorting to cliches and cheap shots at whatever is making news at the time.
Simpsons is an epic series. The writing is solid, and the jokes from even 15 years ago still make me laugh. The newer episodes aren’t as good as the old, but it’s tough to argue with 17-18 seasons, or however many there are.
S.O.S. 27
While I have long admired the Simpsons for the originality and wittiness of the writing, Family guy to me seems to try too often to be outrageous for outrageousness sake. It is crude, and often portrays the lowest common denominator type of comedy.
I like this kid. I love how he’s jumped right into the role of Yankee goodwill ambassador. Man I can’t wait until the season starts!
As for me, the 5 best TV shows in no particular order:
South Park
Simpsons
Futurama (ever-so-underappreciated)
Metalocalypse
Centerstage with Michael Kay
Ok, I was just kidding with the last one. Just wanted to see if you guys were paying attention.
Buddy Biancalana
December 21st, 2007 at 12:34 pm
TurnTwo-
Excellent point on the last thread about Johan being in the bullpen for his first few seasons, if the Yanks have 6 starters, why not start Joba in the pen at least for the beginning of the season
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My only complaint about this would that this would be two years in a row that they’ve bounced him from starting to relieving. Then in mid season they bounce him back to a starter. That’s the worse thing they could do to a young pitcher, especially a power pitcher.
Favorite TV:
House, MD
The Daily Show
The Colbert Report
Yankees’ Baseball
Other than that I don’t really watch.
My 5 best current shows:
1. 24
2. Prison Break
3. Sleeper Cell
4. Dexter
5. Dirty, Sexy, Money (if you haven’t seen it, try it)
ray,
I completely agree. I’m so sorry though that this is the last season, and that they killed off Stringer Bell.
Buddy,
I haven’t seen the last episode yet – I didn’t think it was available on demand.
I’m glad to see some sleeper cell fans. Anyone know if they’re going to do another season?
And as I’m apparently talking to myself, let me keep going because I left off one of my favorite shows – Battlestar Glactica. Not as consistently good as the Wire, but still a favorite.
The only steroids that Joba’s taken are in the super sweet corn he’s consumed.
Favorite Shows:
1. Seinfeld
2. Friends
3. I Dream of Jeannie
4. Law & Order
5. As the Yankees Turn
Not in the top 5: Saved by the Bell. Just caught the end of the reunion show. Gag. But, I wanted to find out how their miserable lives end up.
3 past or present athletes youd want to have for dinner.
Michael Jordan
Derek Jeter
Peyton Manning
SoS:
Joe Montana
Alex Rodriguez
John Amechi (have I plugged his book recently? “Man in the Middle” – it’s great)
Wayne Chrebet (hot hot hot love him)
Curtis Martin
Jorge Posada
John Starks
Ken Griffey Jr.
Alex Rodriguez
and if I can stretch it to 4
Jamal Anderson
Past:
Duke Kahanamoku
Babe Didrikson
Babe Ruth
Present:
Derek Jeter
Kobe Bryant
Tiger Woods
Buster Olney is reporting that Joba will start the season in the bullpen, though prepare to be a start in ST. I assume they will give him the Santana or Liriano treatment, though it’ll be tough to move him if he is lights-out again. Thoughts?
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster&entryDate=20071221&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fname%3dolney_buster%26entryDate%3d20071221
SOS:
Past:
Yogi Berra
Joe Namath
Jackie Robinson
Present:
Mariano Rivera
Joba Chamberlain
Phil Hughes
Of the six pitchers, Joba’s the logical one to move to the bullpen with his proven effectiveness there. He’ll have to wait half a season, one season at the most. Of course if someone’s injured or ineffective it might not even be that long. Joba’s young and willing to do anything the team asks of him, so it’ll be fine. We need to trust Nardi Contreras and the Yankees. Joe G. must be giddy to work with the three young pitchers.
Rebecca,
Hey! Yogi still wears a uni!
mel,
Didrikson is a great choice, but who’s the Duke?
Lefrak Stomper
December 21st, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Hello Pete, hello everyone, I don’t post very often but I read the blog every day and want to say how much I appreciate Pete giving us this forum to spout off and banter back and forth. Thanks to all, the witty, the wise, the sane and the certifiable, you make the off-season much more bearable. Top 5 B.& W. shows: 1) The Untouchables 2) The Twilight Zone 3) The Fugitive 4) The Dick Van Dyke Show 5) The Honeymooners…Top 5 Color shows: 1) Bonanza 2) I Spy 3) The Prisoner 4) Twin Peaks 5) Miami Vice…Many blessings to all and the very best wishes for health and happiness in ‘08.
Joba needs to be in the rotation. You dont put a possible future ace of your team in the pen. If its an innings problem than I would start him off as a starter and give him some rest in the end of the season. This would be a waste of his talent.We need to go after a Natan or Street and keep him a starter. Mussina needs to be a long reliever/starter on occasions to spell the big 3. Im affraid if they do this for a second year he might lose his endurance to pitch more than an inning or two per game.
Clare,
He’s the godfather of surfing. There’s a large statue of him on Waikiki Beach if you ever make it out there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Kahanamoku
Joba’s gonna start this season, there shouldn’t even be a debate on this
Hey mel,
What was that word you used a couple days ago? I assume it was Hawaiian.
SEINFELD
SIMPSONS
CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM
ENTOURAGE
ER
I also wouldn’t put much on what Olney saids besides I’m still waiting for that supposive Ian Kennedy, Melky Cabrera plus Jose Tabata for Eric Gagne deal that he guaranteed was done. Olney again doesn’t know a damn thing about what the Yankees will do w/ Joba, to add insult he pencils in Wussina
Is anyone else still at work?
Heres a thought. If the Yankees only delay in landing Santana is clearing some money(trading Matsui). Why not just trade Moose to Balt,Philly or Washington and keep Matsui on the team? I have a feeling that we will need Hedeki more this year than Mike. Giambi cant stay healthy for a whole year neither can Damon.
As far as Mussina having a n.t.c. He will waive it to start on another team and possibly get an extension.
mel,
Thanks for the info and the wiki link. He sounds like an amazing person. I’ll probably never make it to Hawaii, but if I do I’ll make sure to find his statue.
Babe Ruth
Michael Jordan
Tiger Woods
Jennifer,
I’m still at work (although obviously I’m not working), but I may be the last one in the office. But I don’t have the next 11 days off.
Yes. If you call what im doing or should i say, suppose to be doing work.
jennifer, i guess i’m still here technically, but i dont think you can count on me doing much until i get out at 4.
GB7
My only complaint about this would that this would be two years in a row that they’ve bounced him from starting to relieving. Then in mid season they bounce him back to a starter. That’s the worse thing they could do to a young pitcher, especially a power pitcher.
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It worked for Johan,a power pitcher as well.
I am on daycare duty, does that count as work? It sure does.
The concern about Santana’s monetary cost is dust in our eyes
The cost in players is what concerns Cashman
TV shows:
The Wire
Arrested Development
Damages
Chuck
Big Love
Jeter was on Rachael Ray this morning promoting his second cologne. This one is Driven Black. The first was Driven.
Ray fell all over herself.
No mention was made of baseball with the exception of Derek is working out in Tampa.
Yeah, I’m still at work…no early closing for us!! I’ll probably be here through 5:00…major suckage.
Retired athletes for dinner:
-Jackie Robinson
-Andre Agassi
-Sandy Koufax
Current athletes for dinner:
-Jesper Parnevik (crazy Swedish golfer)
-Chad Pennington (supposedly dated my ex-girlfriend at Marshall)
-Rick DiPietro
Top five TV series:
-The Office (US)
-Weeds
-Twin Peaks
-Futurama (pwns both Simpsons and Family Guy)
-Wings
News on Joba in the bullpen here, per Buster Olney. I’m sure he has some solid Yankee contacts.
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2007/12/21/friday-rumors-and-grumblings-roberts-joba-more/
Delcos still thinks the Yanks will get Santana: “Chamberlain should become a starter even if the Yankees acquire Johan Santana, because the right-hander has Clemens-like stuff.”
He also has Joba throwing 180 innings next year.
You wonder if these writers have heard something we haven’t. (Chances are: prolly.)
vrsace wrote:
No, that’s Mitchell’s legacy for throwing out all those almost hypothetical names.
That creep never cared what he destroyed.
Past:
Babe Ruth
Hank Bauer
Cal Ripken Jr.
Present:
Derek Jeter
Tim Duncan
Isiah Thomas (present coach) – just so I could try and figure out what the heck is going on with the Knicks and the moves he’s made.
Imua:
Definition: first; front; ahead; forward; number one
“Imua Kamehameha” is a cheer for Bronson’s alma mater Kamehameha School.
I understand all the innings limits after what’s happened to the likes of Prior, Wood, Liriano (sp?) etc. But how did all this get started?!
Why was it OK in 50’s and 60’s for power pitchers like Robin Roberts, Billy Pierce, Steve Carlton, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson, etc. to come and start piling on the innings nearly straight away? Is there a problem with the way pitchers are trained today, are they over-conditioned physically, over muscled? Or was it the case that in those days there were a lot of injured pitchers who fell by the wayside and of whom we never heard?
Thoughts anybody?
jennifer – i’m still at work, and I actually have a ton of stuff to get done today. I would love to get out of here and get home (11-day weekend, and today’s my birthday!). But, my work’s not going to do itself, and the justice system doesn’t care if it’s your birthday, so I’ll probably be at my desk until around 5:30/6:00.
yanks61,
I think the answer is $$$. A lot of it’s invested in these kids. Look at Jeff Samardzija from Notre Dame. The Cubs gave him a huge contract just to lure him away from the NFL. They don’t want to risk hurting their investments.
Best shows:
30 Rock
Heroes
Colbert Report
The Simpsons (better prior to 2003)
Yankees Baseball
i’ll be happy to get out by 7
Mel–My favorite college B-ball team is the Maryland Terrapins.
RB: Happy birthday!
BTW, where is everyone today?!
Yanks61,
Some pitchers that pitched in the past and experts say that the more innings they pitch the more arm strength they build. I think the problem now is the pitchers are paid so much money and depended on to finish a year that orginizations take caution. Therefore looking at them as a big investment for now and the future,rather than a win now and worry about the future when it comes.
When Curt Schilling was invited by George J. Mitchell to help in the former senator’s investigation of baseball’s performance-enhancement epidemic, Schilling politely declined. He said, in effect, that he didn’t know anything.
Skip to next paragraph
Now Schilling has a whole lot to say on his blog, 38pitches.com, more commentary than revelatory, but true to his word, he doesn’t know anything.
Did all of you that are Yankee season ticket holders get their invoices today?
It looks like the Yanks have played a trick on thse of us with Tier Reserved seats in Sections 1 through 18. My Section 2 Tier Reserved seats are now called “Tier Reserved MVP” seats. The only “Tier Reserved”sections are now 19 -36.
The bottom line is that my seats that cost $19 per game last year are now $27 this year.That’s a 30% increase!
Hey Brian Cashman,
Don’t feed us anymore bull about not signing Johan Santana because you want to keep the costs down. We’re paying for him already!!!!
RB, happy birthday.
Your work actually CAN do itself! It’s amazing. All you need to do is put it in someone else’s in-box. Most of the time it’ll find its way back to you and it will be finished. Sometimes it doesn’t come back, but that doesn’t matter, it’s probably off working on itself.
Either way, you get an 11-day weekend, so clearly someone’s picking up your slack while you sit home watching Montel
Homework for Monday.
BEST 5 ACTORS EVER!!
I hope im not the only one here come Monday.
Dinner with:
Mickey Mantle
Jesse Owens
Jim Thorpe
sos,
Extra Credit: Who’s the best actor of all time-Pacino or DeNiro? Essay answer.
thanks guys – Guy – I’ll probably work from home next week, but at least I’ll be out of my office!
I”m leaving soon
SOS–I’ll definitely be here on Monday. Probably will be the most productive day of the quarter without my co-workers bothering me all day.
5 actors (film):
-Alec Baldwin
-Peter Sellers
-Woody Allen
-Alan Alda
-Johnny Depp
5 actresses (film):
-Diane Keaton, in a landslide
-Ally Sheedy
-Audrey Hepburn
-Lucille Ball
-Jodie Foster
Robert DeNiro hands down.
NO dammit he’s a catcher w/ upside!
Buddy, it’s not putting him in the bullpen that I’m talking about. It’s getting him ready to start in spring training, then shuttling him to the bullpen and putting him back in the rotation later. If they want to put him in the pen for a year or two, fine….but, leave him there all year. If they get ready to put him back in the rotation, then get him stretched out with some winter ball, instead of trying to do it during the spring with 3 innings here and there.
Guy!!!
Its mondays assignment not now! Dont forget what you wrote.
MONDAY GUYS AND GUY.
Top 5 TV Shows
Six Feet Under
Lost
The Office (I’m gonna go both US and UK here)
Arrested Development
4 way tie between Dexter, The Sopranos, Sports Night and Deadwood for my last spot.
Favorite thing to watch on TV are the NY Yankees though. I’ll tivo a TV show and watch the Yankees live 100 out of 100 times.
DeNiro or Pacino?
I’ll take Robert Duvall.
SOS, it’s been a long week. Also, I just saw some stills from that new movie with John C. Reilly, and Pam from “The Office” was wearing naught but a naughty nightie, and I guess I lost track of the day. Yama-hama.
Yanks 61, Gil Hodges started the 5 man rotation in the early ’70s because of the injuries to Koosman, Gentry, Ryan and McAndrews. The pitch counts came in about the mid 70s, because of pitchers like Fydrich and a few others like Frank Tanana who were going down with arm problems. The cost of pitching was getting high, and that’s about the time that the big time relief pitchers were hitting the scene.
I know they’re not all time greats, but who here didn’t enjoy Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, and Get Smart (they’re doing a movie soon)?
Guy,
Go to lunch!! Will you go to lunch!!!Go to lunch!!lol
Quiz: what movie is that from?
It is a good excuse though.
Mel, try picking up a copy of Pinkard And Bowdan doing their impression of Jimi Hendrix singing “Green Acres” to the tune of “Purple Haze”.
Mel:
Get Smart was an all-time 60’s camp comedy hit. My favorite episode was “The Groovy Guru” with Larry Storch from “F Troop” as the guest star.
Other excellent campy shows:
-CHiPs
-Dragnet (late 60s version with Harry Morgan)
-Captain Kangaroo
-Remington Steele
-”Laugh-In”
Mel, S.o.S 27 – thanks to you both. I see that both of you agree that it’s not that pitchers are any less pitchers, but rather the money involved, vis-a-vis their team’s investment.
Johnny Sain, a very good ex-pitcher and one time pitching guru/coach used to emphazine throwing and more throwng, as you mentioned S.o.S 27. I wonder, in fact, if the guys back in those days just threw a whole heck of lot more growing up, thus better preparing themselves, endurance-wise, just as Sain used to preach? Thus, too, the ones that did make it to the ML were the ones who hadn’t and wouldn’t break down – their arms tried and true!
Well, it’s good evening to you all. I’ll look forward to looking in on you tomorrow morning when you’re all most likely still sleeping – well, not all of you, I guess!
SOS, that’s John Williamson (Spacey) and George Aaronow (Arkin) from Glengarry Glen Ross. Great film.
Dinner? That’s easy ….
Joey Buttafuoco
Gossage doesnt seem happy about Clemens.
“If Roger cheated, what do the numbers mean? They mean nothing,” Gossage said by telephone on Thursday. “Roger has always been a production, everything he’s done has been a production. He’s always wanted the attention. He’s probably getting a lot more attention now than he ever wanted.”
It is not surprising that Schilling did not want to “rat out” his teammates when he knew they were using..
Even those who are unalterably opposed to illegal medicines and who know they are in widespread use, are in a catch 22 situation when it comes to tattling on a friend.
I don’t believe there are many people who would do it.
Accordingly I propose a special award to be given to anyone who claims they would “rat out” a friend in that situation. I propose we call it the SCHILLING SHILL award.
Of course, if Schilling was an honest man, he would have kept his mouth shut on Clemens. As some guy said, he doth protest too much.
GB7,
WOW. Psychadelic, dude.
O/T, but since we were talking movies all week, I took my annual trip to Walmart yesterday. They had a lot of vids for $5. Picked up 61* and “The Doors” by Oliver Stone amongst others. Also, does anyone remember “Willow”?
Somebody better have the Doors on their all time bands list next week.
Clare, I’ve been watching season 4 of the Wire on HBO Demand religiously this past week. I have to get seasons 1-3 on DVD at some point.
I’m also disappointed that they’re ending it this year, however if they don’t end it they’ll have to keep bringing in new actors. Nobody sells drugs forever.
Found it. Get Smart to be released June 2008. Steve Carrell and Anne Hathaway. He’s perfect for the role.
Which movie is better? Glen Gary Glen Ross or Boiler Room?
Mel, those are two incredible buys. I picked up a complete set of “The Bronx Is Burning”. I hadn’t seen it, yet, except for a couple of shows. Got my popcorn for tonight. also picked up Season 1 and Season 2 of “McHale’s Navy”. classic stuff.
SOS, Glengarry wins hands down. “Boiler Room” was a cheap knockoff with terrible actors (yeah, I’m looking at you, Vin Diesel).
The real proof is that Boiler Room was a bloated two hours long while Glengarry Glen Ross was a tight, note-perfect 100 minutes.
I propose we call it the SCHILLING SHILL award.
So the first SHILLING SCHIL award goes to Andy Pettite for ratting out Roger Clemens.Right!
Steve Carrell makes me laugh just looking at him. The Office is by far the funniest show out there. He sort of resembles the old get smart actor.
For you Lord of the Rings fans. They are making 2 prequals by 2011.THE HOBBIT. Cant wait for it.
sos,
Did you see last night’s episode? Michael’s playboy buddy had nipple chafing, so by the end of the 5K run, his jersey was bleeding. It was so gross, yet hilarious.
Didnt get a chance to. Out with family looking at christmas lights.Thought i saw something like that about a month ago.
Happy Hollidays for the Fans that wont be here Monday.
The government is so messed up. They can’t tell their right hand from their left. Personally, I would like Clemens to march his cowboy boots up to Capitol Hill and swear that he didn’t do steroids.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3164585
1. arrested development
2. lost
3. the office (US)
4. heroes
5. family guy
honorable mention: flavor of love (don’t ask…)
those arent even my top five (or 6), they’re actually the only shows i watch on tv. except for arrested, since it’s been canceled
also, i’ll pretty much watch anything michael cera is in, but he’s been doing more movies than tv shows. juno was absolutely hilarious!
1) Friday Night Lights
2) 24
3) The Office (US)
4) 30 Rock
5) Scrubs
1.Heroes
2.House
3.24
4.Lost
5.Supernatural
mel, right again.
let those immoral, amoral congressmen get their wide stances
up on cowboy clemens and watch him squirm. anything to get themselves to look good.
1. Yanks
2. Curb
3. Seinfeld
4. Honeymooners
5. Knicks (a psychodrama)
solstice is tomorrow.
It’s a shame that Clemens is probably lying to the kid.
Let’s hope that Roger didn’t mentor Joba too much – if you know what I mean.
Let’s hope that Roger didn’t mentor Joba too much. If you know what I mean.
Four Athletes to have dinner with
Annika Sorenstam
Annika Sorenstam
Annika Sorenstam
and Michelle Wie
Michelle Wie? Ick.
She says “like” every other word and fakes injuries, as well.
When will this phenom actually win a tournament?