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		<title>By: Red41</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red41</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: saucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>saucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here i am a few days late, but i don&#039;t get it Pete. why have someone else write for your blog? You are the best, i don&#039;t want to read anyone else. if I did, I&#039;d be wasting my workday on their blog instead of yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here i am a few days late, but i don&#8217;t get it Pete. why have someone else write for your blog? You are the best, i don&#8217;t want to read anyone else. if I did, I&#8217;d be wasting my workday on their blog instead of yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha Murph. Not a fan of the WMD (Weapon of Malignant Dwarfism) I take it? 

Thanks for the PS3 games suggestions, btw. I have ordered MLB 07 The Show and Uncharted: Drake&#039;s Fortune. I&#039;m interested in seeing Drake&#039;s - looks like a game even I might want to have a go at playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha Murph. Not a fan of the WMD (Weapon of Malignant Dwarfism) I take it? </p>
<p>Thanks for the PS3 games suggestions, btw. I have ordered MLB 07 The Show and Uncharted: Drake&#8217;s Fortune. I&#8217;m interested in seeing Drake&#8217;s &#8211; looks like a game even I might want to have a go at playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MikeinBH 
December 28th, 2007 at 11:35 pm 
Yanks Invite Juan Gonzalez to Spring Training

Saw this link on Yes Message Boards. Hopefully this is some kind of joke!

http://www.vocero.com/noticiasum.asp?id=11112



In Spain, Puerto Rico and other Spanish-speaking countries, December 28th is like our April 1st. It is a hoax.</description>
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December 28th, 2007 at 11:35 pm<br />
Yanks Invite Juan Gonzalez to Spring Training</p>
<p>Saw this link on Yes Message Boards. Hopefully this is some kind of joke!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vocero.com/noticiasum.asp?id=11112" rel="nofollow">http://www.vocero.com/noticiasum.asp?id=11112</a></p>
<p>In Spain, Puerto Rico and other Spanish-speaking countries, December 28th is like our April 1st. It is a hoax.</p>
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		<title>By: iYankees</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey everyone. I&#039;ll actually be one of the &quot;pinch hitters&quot; in January and I&#039;m definitely looking forward to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone. I&#8217;ll actually be one of the &#8220;pinch hitters&#8221; in January and I&#8217;m definitely looking forward to it.</p>
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		<title>By: li</title>
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		<dc:creator>li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea, Pete. I&#039;d like to see each blogger post on the same topic, so we can get a bunch of points of view say: new sheriff in town (Joe Girardi)and how it will change the club, pitching (is it enough?), or even AROD back in pinstripes (what does it mean to the Yankees for the next ten years?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea, Pete. I&#8217;d like to see each blogger post on the same topic, so we can get a bunch of points of view say: new sheriff in town (Joe Girardi)and how it will change the club, pitching (is it enough?), or even AROD back in pinstripes (what does it mean to the Yankees for the next ten years?)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Mooseina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Mooseina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T. Kim:  Quantity does not replace quality.</description>
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		<title>By: Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T. Kim--That is much too many players to give up for one, no matter how good the one is.

You don&#039;t want to be like Arizona and have your farm system completely fleeced</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T. Kim&#8211;That is much too many players to give up for one, no matter how good the one is.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t want to be like Arizona and have your farm system completely fleeced</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T. Kim  -


Can&#039;t trade Melky and A-Jax in the same package.   The Twins will not be interested in both Mussina and Farnsworth&#039;s contract totals of $ 28.5M for &#039;08 even with Santana&#039;s contract loss for them.</description>
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<p>Can&#8217;t trade Melky and A-Jax in the same package.   The Twins will not be interested in both Mussina and Farnsworth&#8217;s contract totals of $ 28.5M for &#8217;08 even with Santana&#8217;s contract loss for them.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think of swapping in Ian Kennedy for Phil Hughes and adding some more prospects to the list? Let&#039;s say 

1. Ian Kennedy
2. Melky Cabrera
3. Alan Horne
4. Brett Gardner
5. Jeff Marquez

for Johan Santana? That&#039;s 2 major league ready players including 4 top 15 prospects in the Yankee organization for the best pitcher in baseball, for any other team that could mean stripping the farm and ruining the future but in a system as stacked as the Yankees&#039; I think its a pretty fair trade. 

So that&#039;s saying that Phil Hughes is worth Ian Kennedy, Alan Horne and Brett Gardner, I think a future ace in Hughes is worth a future number 2-3 starter with possible ace production in Kennedy, a 3-4 starter or solid setup man in Horne and an average to above average outfielder in Gardner. If they ask for more than that I would even throw in a another lesser prospect. Or... even better imagine a package of the following:

1. Melky Cabrera
2. Jeff Karstens
3. Alan Horne
4. Austin Jackson
5. Dellin Betances
6. Damon Sublett
7. Jeff Marquez
8. Juan Miranda/Zach McAllister

This is a pretty huge haul, wouldn&#039;t you say? That&#039;s two major league ready players in Melk-man and Karstens, and 5 top 15 prospects including 3 top 5, not to mention McAllister/Miranda are ranked in most top 25&#039;s. Is this too much? Maybe we could get away with offering less, like making it a 6-7 player deal, subtracting Marquez and/or Miranda/McAllister? Ask the Twins, but I highly doubt it. Either way I hope you catch my drift... we can give them quantity while still providing much quality. They are asking for 2 major league ready players, we give them Melky and maybe they would take Moose, Karstens or Igawa as the other? An 8 player deal huh? We would likely ask for some prospects back but wouldn&#039;t get any value in them.

Imagine being able to keep the big 3 and adding Santana? You would be killing the farm, but it&#039;s so stacked that the Yankees still have some sort of life. Doing this could even move Joba to the bullpen and our rotation would be:

1. Santana
2. Wang
3. Pettitte
4. Hughes
5. IPK/Moose

IPK could even be the long man/spot starter to limit innings, and then when Moose falls apart he could take over as the number 5. Sign Texiera next year to clear up the first base problems, heck if the Twins want another big bat give them Giambi for a year as a filler even pay his entire contract, with Joba able to fill the 8th we could even give the Twins Farnsworth if they want so they could trade Nathan (to us hopefully as part of the Santana deal) and get even more prospects. Or we could just give them a bunch of fillers and add Moose to the mix (if he&#039;d waive his no-trade) We saw the Diamondbacks get Haren and a throw in for 6 players, none of which seem to be major leaugue ready. So imagine another scenario:

1. Mike Mussina
2. Melky Cabrera
3. Jeff Karstens
4. Kyle Farnsworth

5. Alan Horne
6. Austin Jackson
7. Dellin Betances
8. Damon Sublett
9. Jeff Marquez
10. Juan Miranda/Zach McAllister

Is a 10 person trade even possible? Obviously we would be getting Santana plus Nathan in this deal, maybe something else too, like a lefty reliever or 4th outfielder, doubt it. We would also have to send cash to cover Moose&#039;s contract as well as Farnsworthless&#039;. Unless we get Nathan, I would stick to the 6-8 prospect trade listed before this one. We would be swapping 2 one year contracts in Mussina and Farnsworth for a one year contract in Nathan, not to mention we would be adding some amazing talent to their farm while also allowing them to contend somewhat in &#039;08. Mussina and Karstens fill out their rotation, filling the void left by the departures of Silva and Garza, I actually think Mussina and Karstens will do better in &#039;08 than the combination of Silva and Garza. Yet, the Twins become the &#039;07 Yankees and have no true ace; Santana&#039;s void is filled by the farm system that has just become one of the best in the league, as well as the return of Liriano. Nathan&#039;s void is filled either through the farm system or some magical reinvention of Kill Farnsworth. Imagine this for the Yankees then... 

SP:
1. Santana
2. Wang
3. Pettitte
4. Hughes
5. IPK
CL: Mo
Setup: Joba, Nathan
Relivers: Hawkins, Albadejo, Ohlendorf, Britton/Igawa (Igawa is a situational lefty/long-man)?
All of a sudden our bullpen is the best in the league, as is our starting pitching. Our lineup barely takes a hit as well, our farm system may be somewhat depleted, but nothing too damning... we still have an average at worst system.

Lineup:
1. Damon (CF)
2. Jeter (SS)
3. Abreu (RF)
4. Arod (3B)
5. Cano (2B)
6. Posada (C)
7. Matsui (LF)
8. Giambi/Duncan (DH)
9. Minky/Betemit (1B)

Until we sign Teixera to a 5-7 year contract with an average salary of approximately $20-25 million we could sign Minky to a 1-year $1.5 million contract and have him and Betemit handle the bulk of 1B duties while having Giambi and Duncan switch off at DH. That&#039;s some nice platoon action for both DH and 1B. I think that leaves us 2 more spots? We could add more bullpen help, or sign two more bench players preferably an outfielder who can handle center in case Damon gets injured. Maybe bring back Bernie for the 4th outfielder spot unless anyone sees a better option?

Now a lot of this is just me messing around, but who knows, I think some is at least feasible. We, of course, sell out and strip our entire farm system for Santana, yet we keep the big 3 which is fine by me, since we won&#039;t be needing any pitching prospects for at least another 10 years... and we can always just buy Cy Young winner C.C. Sabathia in &#039;09 in the range of 4-6 years and an average salary of approximately $15-20 million annually. The only gaping hole with the Santana trade is the void in the outfield defense left by Melky&#039;s departure, but he was part of all the trade talks anyway, plus above average fielders with average bats are a dime a dozen. You know what else is a dime a dozen? $4 million contracts for relievers that can&#039;t pitch... cough... Killin&#039; Me Farnsworth. Am I putting too much value on the Yankee farm? This is my first article ever... so give me a break here...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think of swapping in Ian Kennedy for Phil Hughes and adding some more prospects to the list? Let&#8217;s say </p>
<p>1. Ian Kennedy<br />
2. Melky Cabrera<br />
3. Alan Horne<br />
4. Brett Gardner<br />
5. Jeff Marquez</p>
<p>for Johan Santana? That&#8217;s 2 major league ready players including 4 top 15 prospects in the Yankee organization for the best pitcher in baseball, for any other team that could mean stripping the farm and ruining the future but in a system as stacked as the Yankees&#8217; I think its a pretty fair trade. </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s saying that Phil Hughes is worth Ian Kennedy, Alan Horne and Brett Gardner, I think a future ace in Hughes is worth a future number 2-3 starter with possible ace production in Kennedy, a 3-4 starter or solid setup man in Horne and an average to above average outfielder in Gardner. If they ask for more than that I would even throw in a another lesser prospect. Or&#8230; even better imagine a package of the following:</p>
<p>1. Melky Cabrera<br />
2. Jeff Karstens<br />
3. Alan Horne<br />
4. Austin Jackson<br />
5. Dellin Betances<br />
6. Damon Sublett<br />
7. Jeff Marquez<br />
8. Juan Miranda/Zach McAllister</p>
<p>This is a pretty huge haul, wouldn&#8217;t you say? That&#8217;s two major league ready players in Melk-man and Karstens, and 5 top 15 prospects including 3 top 5, not to mention McAllister/Miranda are ranked in most top 25&#8242;s. Is this too much? Maybe we could get away with offering less, like making it a 6-7 player deal, subtracting Marquez and/or Miranda/McAllister? Ask the Twins, but I highly doubt it. Either way I hope you catch my drift&#8230; we can give them quantity while still providing much quality. They are asking for 2 major league ready players, we give them Melky and maybe they would take Moose, Karstens or Igawa as the other? An 8 player deal huh? We would likely ask for some prospects back but wouldn&#8217;t get any value in them.</p>
<p>Imagine being able to keep the big 3 and adding Santana? You would be killing the farm, but it&#8217;s so stacked that the Yankees still have some sort of life. Doing this could even move Joba to the bullpen and our rotation would be:</p>
<p>1. Santana<br />
2. Wang<br />
3. Pettitte<br />
4. Hughes<br />
5. IPK/Moose</p>
<p>IPK could even be the long man/spot starter to limit innings, and then when Moose falls apart he could take over as the number 5. Sign Texiera next year to clear up the first base problems, heck if the Twins want another big bat give them Giambi for a year as a filler even pay his entire contract, with Joba able to fill the 8th we could even give the Twins Farnsworth if they want so they could trade Nathan (to us hopefully as part of the Santana deal) and get even more prospects. Or we could just give them a bunch of fillers and add Moose to the mix (if he&#8217;d waive his no-trade) We saw the Diamondbacks get Haren and a throw in for 6 players, none of which seem to be major leaugue ready. So imagine another scenario:</p>
<p>1. Mike Mussina<br />
2. Melky Cabrera<br />
3. Jeff Karstens<br />
4. Kyle Farnsworth</p>
<p>5. Alan Horne<br />
6. Austin Jackson<br />
7. Dellin Betances<br />
8. Damon Sublett<br />
9. Jeff Marquez<br />
10. Juan Miranda/Zach McAllister</p>
<p>Is a 10 person trade even possible? Obviously we would be getting Santana plus Nathan in this deal, maybe something else too, like a lefty reliever or 4th outfielder, doubt it. We would also have to send cash to cover Moose&#8217;s contract as well as Farnsworthless&#8217;. Unless we get Nathan, I would stick to the 6-8 prospect trade listed before this one. We would be swapping 2 one year contracts in Mussina and Farnsworth for a one year contract in Nathan, not to mention we would be adding some amazing talent to their farm while also allowing them to contend somewhat in &#8217;08. Mussina and Karstens fill out their rotation, filling the void left by the departures of Silva and Garza, I actually think Mussina and Karstens will do better in &#8217;08 than the combination of Silva and Garza. Yet, the Twins become the &#8217;07 Yankees and have no true ace; Santana&#8217;s void is filled by the farm system that has just become one of the best in the league, as well as the return of Liriano. Nathan&#8217;s void is filled either through the farm system or some magical reinvention of Kill Farnsworth. Imagine this for the Yankees then&#8230; </p>
<p>SP:<br />
1. Santana<br />
2. Wang<br />
3. Pettitte<br />
4. Hughes<br />
5. IPK<br />
CL: Mo<br />
Setup: Joba, Nathan<br />
Relivers: Hawkins, Albadejo, Ohlendorf, Britton/Igawa (Igawa is a situational lefty/long-man)?<br />
All of a sudden our bullpen is the best in the league, as is our starting pitching. Our lineup barely takes a hit as well, our farm system may be somewhat depleted, but nothing too damning&#8230; we still have an average at worst system.</p>
<p>Lineup:<br />
1. Damon (CF)<br />
2. Jeter (SS)<br />
3. Abreu (RF)<br />
4. Arod (3B)<br />
5. Cano (2B)<br />
6. Posada (C)<br />
7. Matsui (LF)<br />
8. Giambi/Duncan (DH)<br />
9. Minky/Betemit (1B)</p>
<p>Until we sign Teixera to a 5-7 year contract with an average salary of approximately $20-25 million we could sign Minky to a 1-year $1.5 million contract and have him and Betemit handle the bulk of 1B duties while having Giambi and Duncan switch off at DH. That&#8217;s some nice platoon action for both DH and 1B. I think that leaves us 2 more spots? We could add more bullpen help, or sign two more bench players preferably an outfielder who can handle center in case Damon gets injured. Maybe bring back Bernie for the 4th outfielder spot unless anyone sees a better option?</p>
<p>Now a lot of this is just me messing around, but who knows, I think some is at least feasible. We, of course, sell out and strip our entire farm system for Santana, yet we keep the big 3 which is fine by me, since we won&#8217;t be needing any pitching prospects for at least another 10 years&#8230; and we can always just buy Cy Young winner C.C. Sabathia in &#8217;09 in the range of 4-6 years and an average salary of approximately $15-20 million annually. The only gaping hole with the Santana trade is the void in the outfield defense left by Melky&#8217;s departure, but he was part of all the trade talks anyway, plus above average fielders with average bats are a dime a dozen. You know what else is a dime a dozen? $4 million contracts for relievers that can&#8217;t pitch&#8230; cough&#8230; Killin&#8217; Me Farnsworth. Am I putting too much value on the Yankee farm? This is my first article ever&#8230; so give me a break here&#8230;</p>
<p>THOUGHTS?</p>
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