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16-0 … and now the real season starts

Peter Abraham
December
29

moss.jpgTell you what, if the Giants play that well again next week, they’ll win easily.

As for the mighty Patriots, the Super Bowl is what matters, not 16-0. But they earned every bit of 16-0 tonight. They didn’t show much on defense tonight, mostly their base stuff. But the offense was there.

I hope they finish it off, if only to shut up those insufferable 1972 Dolphins.

Think what you will of the Patriots. But Tom Brady is pretty much the Derek Jeter of football at this point. Does everything right, all class and team first.

This entry was posted on Saturday, December 29th, 2007 at 11:40 pm by Peter Abraham.
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231 Responses to “16-0 … and now the real season starts”

  1. Irabu's Son

    If leaving your pregnant girlfriend for a supermodel is classy, consider Brady a a class act.

  2. Josh T

    Brady stills takes his chances to talk crap and showboat from time to time. He’s definitely a team players though – I think Jeter is above him.

  3. Chris

    The Patriots and anything having to do with north of New York can pretty much…well, you know.

  4. Keith

    Tom Brady is not Derek Jeter. Get real. Pete, you’re a homer lol

  5. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers!

    Brady is no Derek Jeter

  6. Chris

    Actually, Brady could probably play shortstop better than Jeter. If we’re being honest.

  7. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes!

    Anyone else see the money fall out of the refs pockets?

  8. Yankee Fan in Chicago

    Brady compared to Jeter? Wait, Brady can’t field his position either?

    Actually, Brady is way more of a team player than Jeter. If Jeter was a team player, he would’ve given the ss position to Arod, the clearly superior fielder, when Arod came over from Texas

  9. Chris

    Sadly, I think it’s gonna become more and more “cool” to hate on Jeter and his eroding defensive skills. Even the idiot, casual fan is gonna catch on at some point.

  10. li

    Can you imagine the hatred spewed Alex’s way if he had replaced Jeter at short? Not to mention the self-induced pressure.

  11. Kj

    Why are you people comparing Jeter and Brady?? Who cares

  12. Pat

    all class? Yea, abandoning your baby is really classy… and quit this “and now the real season starts” garbage. They’re not the Yankees of the NFL. When they’ve got over 20 championships, fine, THEN you can say it.

  13. Peter Abraham

    FYI, irrational haters, Brady and Jeter are good buddies (Jeter is a Michigan football fan) and text message all the time. Brady is a Yankees fan.

    I love the guy who said anything north of New York is useless. Then where would all the New York kids go to college? Half the kids I knew at UMass were from NYC or Long Island.

    The Pats and The Yankees are tied at the hip, folks. Brady and Jeter are pals, Vrabel is a Yankees fan. Belichick was at spring training talking to Torre and Cashman, etc. Good is good, where a team happens to be on the map is incidental. The players know that.

  14. Chris

    I don’t think I used the word “useless,” but I love you too. Read carefully next time

  15. Kj

    Im as big a Yankee fan as anyone but I think its funny that some of you compare Jeter to anyone who has success in thier sport.

  16. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers!

    I like most things north of New York, except the winters and the sports teams =)

  17. Kevin from Edmonton

    As a Colts fan, I can’t stand the Patriots. I think that I hate all things Beantown. I was a Canadiens fan growing up and couldn’t stand the Bruins. Same for the Red Sox.

    Brady is hard to dislike. However, Bellicheat is such a d**k.

    Brady does lose on the class thing for dumping his pregnant girlfriend. Its hard to think of him as a “stand-up” guy after that.

  18. Kj

    El Vocero, one of the bigger newspapers in Puerto Rico, is reporting that the Yankees signed Juan Gonzalez. Has anyone heard or read anything on this? It has to be a joke.

  19. Chris

    I’m not sure someone can pass judgement without knowing the details of Brady’s relationship. She could have beat him or popped pills daily, for all we know. I actually like Brady. The coach, not so much. My hatred for the Red Sox bleeds over into everything Boston and New England. I’m also not apologizing for my irrational behavior.

  20. pat

    What Jeter and Brady have in common is they both know how to win and they both know how to work the media.

  21. thomas

    tom brady is no derek jeter. on the field he a whines to any ref in earshot if he doesnt get a call or gets hit. And on the field many of his previous wins can probably be attributed to the edge he gains from “superior scouting”. he can think again

  22. Peter Abraham

    I love Yankee fans dumping on Brady for breaking up with his girlfriend. Be careful with those stones. Do you have any idea how many Yankees have baby mamas, second (or third) wives or kids they never see? Evaluate athletes by what they do on the field. None of us have any idea about their personal lives.

  23. Boston Dave

    I’d be a hypocrite if I bashed Tom Brady for hooking up with Giselle. Leave the guy and his personal life alone… jeeze.

    Brady is a Yankees fan. I live in Boston and as soon as I remind or mention that nice little fact to Sox fans, the look on their faces is priceless. It looks like their head is going to explode. You gotta love Brady even if you hate the Pats in general.

  24. Bob

    Sorry Pete, but the real season starts March 31. :)

    Glad the Patriots won tonight though. Saves their inevitable loss for the playoffs.

  25. YanksSox

    Brady is easily a top 3 quarterback of all time, possibly could go down as the best, how is he being compared to Derek Jeter again?

  26. Boston Dave

    Kj – it is a joke (confirmed)

  27. ray

    All of you dumping on Brady about his personal relationships…just a quick question…do you hold Mr. I love strippers Arod to the same standard?

  28. stuart

    Brady is great but the refs sucked… Toomer Call on the sidelines.. Nice hold on Fred Robbins on one of Brady’s big plays.. Nice eye poke for WIlfork, no call.

    the pats held the giants line all game and got zero not one holding call thewhole game….

  29. stuart

    who cares about there personal lives.. Brady is great and a gamerr end og story…

    I think the pats will lose in the playoffs………

  30. deadrody

    Wow. There is simply nothing more insufferable than a New England sports fan. I live smack in the middle of it and it is truly a sight to behold.

    All the evidence you need is in Pete’s comment to this post. You really think anyone on this planet cares whether or not Brady and Jeter are friends ? Or that Vrabel is a Yankee fan ? Are you serious ?

    Unreal.

  31. Chris

    I love when Peter says in every comment, “I love.”

  32. Paul V

    The main reason I hate the Pats is because I have been a Jets fan since Broadway Joe, when I was a little kid, and I do believe in fan loyalty. Having them in my division sucks. Brady is a great QB, though. Got to give him that. Don’t like the coach.

  33. Jimbo

    My biggest complaint about the game was GumBall and Collinsworth acting like they wish they were Brady’s girlfriends. I know he is good, but if you listened to those guys comments without knowing the score you’d have thought it was 38-0 in the fourth quarter instead of a close game.

    Unless the Pats finish this off with a Super Bowl win, it means nothing. Didn’t Seattle break the Yanks single-season mark a few years ago, and then the Yanks crushed them in the playoffs?

    It’s all about the rings, baby. Jeter and Brady understand that most of all.

  34. Paul V

    Peter, we need registration. I really don’t think we’d lose a massive number of people. And those we’d lose would be an asset, as Yogi might have once said.

  35. whatever

    Peter I seriously hate you for rubbing the patriots win in our faces ON THE YANKEE forum.. That ain’t right and I think you should take this down right now.

  36. Boston Dave

    ray, if people had any idea (in general) how many baseball players cheat repeatedly on their wives (and children)…

    I cant make a blanket statement for all teams but I know for a fact that (at least as of 2004-06) a majority of the Red Sox married players cheated countless times on their wives. Manny Ramirez is one of the worst. Derek Lowe would walk into bars and yell “who’s coming back to the hotel with me?”

    ripping Arod is like the mitchell report. you dont go after 1 guy and not everyone else.

  37. Bertram

    Do you really think the pats won that game and not the refs (just like the ravens game)?!?!? Jezz, I will never read an article of yours without a frikin mound of salt again, especially against the red sox….let’s just start at the long pass to Burress on the Giants first drive. The only debabtable point is whether its 5 or 15 yards face mask …orshall we bring up the NFL network’s refusal to even say the words “face mask”?

  38. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers!

    Well, they still haven’t won the Super Bowl

  39. Boston Dave

    whatever – i sort of agree with you. Peter knows that a vast majority of his readers HATE the Patriots. You have to give the Pats credit where credit is due, but this might not be the best forum for it. It is his blog to write what he wants and sometimes negative posts can generate alot more posts that positive ones. i dunno…. I dont personally mind but I see your point.

  40. ray

    deadrody

    If you find the host of this blog so offensive then why don’t you simply go to another blog?

  41. helno51

    Pete really isnt that solid on the definition of classy right? i mean the whole leaving your pregnant girlfriend thing doesnt exactly scream “classy” to me. but as the baseball season has taught us pete has a strange infatuation with classy, even if he isnt exactly sure what it means.

  42. Boston Dave

    the refs had no effect on the outcome. stop whining, its pathetic. the pats could very well lose in the playoffs but they have won every game so far fair and square.

  43. asburyboss

    great…we go from the insufferable Dolphins to the insuferable Patriots. Hows that better for a Giants fan?

    could rod harrison be a bigger jerk?

  44. Boston Dave

    helno, its not classy to make assumptions about peoples personal lives with little or no knowledge of the situation. jeter isnt married, but i still have plenty of not-so-classy stories about him. doesnt make me like him any less as a baseball player.

  45. ray

    Boston Dave

    I make no claim for the personal lives of the Red Sox players. I was responding to the specific comments on here about Brady and how it seemed like everyone was singling him out….just the thing you are saying should not be done.

  46. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers!

    you think that’s bad?

    Try being a Jets fan.

  47. helno51

    I just read petes comment. I think he is delusional sometimes. I like brady and was rooting for the pats to win tonight but what is it with his classy infatuation? i mean i only dumped on brady because i dont think that is very classy. But who the hell really cares. Thats between him and his ex-girlfriend. I like him because he is a hell of a player but pete feels the need for all his favorites to be “classy” whether they are or not and he thinks that “classiness” is a defense to failing in the first round year after year after year after year…

  48. Boston Dave

    ray… my bad. i didnt mean to direct that at you but it did come off that way.

  49. asburyboss

    the only difference between Jeter and Brady is Jeter wears rubbers

  50. ray

    Not a problem Dave.

  51. lil' m

    The Babe, Joe D, Mickey, none of them would have survived today’s 24/7/365 news cycle unscathed. The Captain has not only survived, but thrived under the TV-talk radio-blogosphere-message board spotlight without wilting. Re eroding skills: he gets in on the first ballot. And the haters (honest critics excluded) will be boring the grandkids and the staff at the assisted living facility with stories of seeing him play live. DJ 4-ever!!!

  52. Alex

    Hey, anybody know of a good Yankees blog to post on? This used to be one, but after today I will find another. Can someone forward the web address of a real YANKEEES blogger?

  53. helno51

    oh one more thing a bit off topic. when is pete going to post on the fact that the “classy” joe torre had a clubhouse with all these guys doing steroids? personally i dont care because it was rampant throughout the league but pete holds up joe to be slightly greater than christ so i would think joe would have used his “classiness” to prevent it in his clubhouse. i wont hold my breath on pete dealing with that because petes loves his joe.

  54. Boston Dave

    lol asbury….

  55. ray

    Not a problem at all Dave.

  56. asburyboss

    Alex…www.behindthebombers.com…the best

  57. Peter Abraham

    Hilarious. I do a 96-word post on a football game that starts with praising the Giants (who are apparently The Official Football Team of All Yankees Fans) and people get so riled up.

    Some sociopath just e-mailed me that he (really bad word) hated me.

    Um, it’s a football game. Calm down, Francis.

    I also enjoy the people who seem to think there’s some sort of law that mandates I only post about the Yankees. This just in: it’s Dec. 30, Brian Cashman is asleep, there is no baseball news. Beyond that, this is my blog. If I want to throw up a football post once in a while, I will.

    Besides, there are nearly 50 comments on the post. Traffic is traffic. I wouldn’t do it if people didn’t respond to it. Most of the country watched the game tonight.

    That said, I’m going to bed. I’ll try and go back in time tomorrow and convince my father in 1976 to take me to a Giants game. I suffered through too much bad football (Rod Rust, etc.) not to enjoy what the Pats are doing. Those Yankee fans who suffered through the late 80s and early 90s know exactly what I mean.

  58. Bertram

    “the refs had no effect on the outcome”…really? a questionable call on contact down field on 4th down…and equally questionable non-call call on a contact downfield on Rodney Harrison on a giants 3rd down…a really questionable pass interefernce call on a giants LB in the endzone, even though Moss was the only person to make any contact, that leads to a new set of downs and a td…etc…etc…etc….its not whining, its terrible calls that always go the way of the pats. or did you not see the ravens game…and again, explain the no-call on the face mask and the NFL-employed announces not even thinking it worth a mention…

  59. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers!

    I’m no Giants fan

    Just wanted to see the Patriots lose…

    >_>;;;

    (Yes, Yankees-Jets-Nets-Devils fans exist, rare as we are!)

  60. McLovin

    Boston Dave & Whatever-

    Get a life. This is Pete’s blog, sure it’s based on the Yankees because his job is to cover the team, but it’s his blog and he commonly posts about personal stuff. He’s a Pats fan who covers the Yankees, why do so many people seem to have a problem with this? He’s not rubbing anything in.

  61. Boston Dave

    Bertram – the Pats are by far the best team in the NFL and found a way to win a tough game (as usual). You can come up with as many conspiracy theories as you want. You can try to convince yourself of anything you want. But dont expect anyone else to share in your lunacy.

  62. asburyboss

    Pete…enjoy your Pats…unbelievable season for you guys…just try and get Larry Izzo to NOT chant “Yankees Suck” at the Super Bowl parade and I think we’ll be cool.

    Bellichick, Brady, Moss, and Bruschi just punched their tix to Canton (most were going anyway- but this seals the deal)

  63. Boston Dave

    McLovin,

    did you read my post? Guess not.

  64. insession

    I just read that Jeter and Brady adopted a child together and named him ‘classy’

  65. Peter Abraham

    I thought the refs were bad, period. The illegal formation call on the Pats on the goal line was a mystery. Moss got a head shot from the Giants that was illegal, etc.

    Keep in mind that in slow-motion, everything looks like a penalty. In real time, it often doesn’t.

  66. Boston Dave

    McLovin,

    get a McClue dude. weak.

  67. chazzh

    or how about the no-call when Moss TACKLED Sam Madison in the first half and not only did they not mention it on the broadcast- they went nuts about how great of a block it was.
    It didn’t directly win the game for the Pats- but it didn’t hurt to get most of the calls tonight.

    DId anyone else see, right before kickoff, Donte Stallworth standing in front of Moss and Brady holding a cup in their face and Brady sniffing it like crazy.

    What the hell was that? Smelling salts or something? I don’t think that is illegal- but what are they doing there- PEte- any insight?

  68. al arodien

    Nice game really entertaining manning played great but brady out played him. about jeter: he is better then brady in one thing bluffing to the media. but brady gets better girls then him!

  69. Jimbo

    Pete,

    I believe the correct phrase is “Lighten up, Francis.”

    Or as I and many others used to say on another blog,
    “Put some ice on that swelling.”

    Yes, the Pats got some calls tonight (and against the Ravens.) In the course of a season like they had, there is almost always some luck involved. Just like in a no-hitter, there will be some balls that might normally fall in that don’t.

    They still have to win the Super Bowl for this season to mean anything.

  70. Global Warming

    16-0 *

  71. Buddy Biancalana

    McLovin-

    Great name!Lol

  72. Khoa

    Ugh. Congrats Pete.

  73. asburyboss

    al arodien…that’s a joke right? jeter gets Prime Beef, Grade A stuff…

  74. Wood Is Good

    Why are the 1972 Dolphins “insufferable”? Because as of now they’re STILL the only truly UNDEFEATED TEAM?!? And have been for 35 years? And they’re justifiably PROUD of it??

    Talk to me when the NFL season is over! It ain’t over yet.

    –a Steelers fan

    (Sorry for the caps, but your use of the word “insufferable” really bothered me.)

  75. Bertram

    Boston Dave,

    Absolutely, the Pat’s won. They deserve the credit. The giants had a chance to win and Eli was not up to the challenge. I’m just frustrated. But you must admit the Pats got alot of calls this season and this game…Regardless, they need to capitalize to win and they did so…sports aren’t fixed and there are no foul plots…but its fun to fall back on the idea when your team just misses…

  76. Chris

    Jeter had Jessica Alba and Vanessa Manillo. Nuff said

  77. asburyboss

    I think the Chargers will beat the Pats in the playoffs…and I wouldn’t overlook Jax either.

    Tonight was a typical Giants night…can look real good for spurts…then average…then bad.

    The game wasn’t as close as it seemed. the runback made it seem closer. The pats went thru em like $hit thru a goose

  78. Boston Dave

    16-0*

    * – beware of jealous fans who cant accept the truth.

    seriously, some of you are so pitiful when you dont get your way. i hate the red sox but i unfortunately have to give them credit for their win this year. its fine to root against the pats but to rip on them, make personal attacks, and try to discredit their regular season is pretty weak.

  79. asburyboss

    Im proud of the Dolphins for going udnefeated and NOT having to cheat to do it.

    I love saying that up here in Boston…drives em bats

  80. NH Mike

    Leave Pete alone. If you don’t like the fact that he posts about things other than the Yankees, too bad.

  81. Boston Dave

    Bertram – there are tons of blown calls in general in sports. i think MLB umpires had their worst season of the past 20 in 2007. but the yanks didnt lose because of the umps and the sox didnt win.

    I dont think the calls had anything to do with the outcome. thats all. if the officiating could be improved somehow, id be in favor. but the pats were the better team and the better team won. as pete said, the giants looked as good as they have in a long time tonight and it could/should give them some momentum for next week.

  82. Catherine

    Look who cares about the Patriots. The benefit of rooting for a team in the media center of the world is that no matter what the Pats do, Coughlin getting fired will still be the headline. The Celtics have lost 3 games, the Kicks have won 8. The Knicks and Isiah STILL have the headlines. The Sox win the series and Arod and his contract take the headlines. I bet 70% of people in America think the Yankees won the WS anyway. Let Boston enjoy a headline for a day or two.

  83. mel

    Great, great game. The G-men outplayed the Pats in the first half. Classic rope-a-dope. No pressure on Eli in the first half, and he was very comfortable out there. Then, boom! Pressure.

    Irabu,

    You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Brady didn’t know that the mother of his child was pregnant when they broke up.

  84. Bertram

    Boston Dave,

    You are right, and there are tons of bad calls for each and every team in every sport….but when your team loses, you latch on…and part of the fun of sports is saying “if only this one play went our way”….

  85. Chris

    Catherine,
    If you think the Giants and the Knicks are even close to the same level as the Yanks, you are delusional. The media doesn’t care any more about the Giants, and the Knicks are an afterthought. I don’t believe football and basketball have a “Red Sox” and “Yankees.”

  86. mel

    One more thing. Even a win for the Giants wouldn’t be worth losing 4 men in the game. I hope they’re back for the playoffs. The guy that replaced Kawika Mitchell was very good, though.

  87. asburyboss

    if anyone doesn’t believe there is a double standard in the media when it comes to race lets examine the Brady-out-of-wedlock pregnancy and birth of his child. Good looking white QB does it and the news is celebrated about him “…becoming a dad”- Channel 7 even had “Breaking News” up here in Boston to report it!

    Now…if that was a black QB? My goodness- it woulda taken a different slant.

    That cannot be argued.

  88. asburyboss

    ANy update on Sean O’Hara?

  89. Boston Dave

    NH Mike – I personally dont mind Pete posting anything he wants. But you cant ignore the fact that the Pats are a hated team for a large majority of his readers. Pete knows that and posts anyway. Again, I have no problem myself but I can’t speak for those who may be a little agitated. I at least can understand why Giants fans who also hate the Pats wouldnt want their favorite blog, thats supposed to be sort of a safe-haven for like-minded sports fans, being pro-Pats.

    As Pete said, it opens up the floor for debate and baseball is dead right now. Until the media cooks up some more Santana rumors….

  90. jay destro

    i like organized sports

  91. YanksSox

    catherine people read newspapers other than the NY Post

  92. asburyboss

    Boston Dave,

    or Juan Gonzalez rumors…

  93. Boston Dave

    asbury boss – i think it can be argued.

    im not going to argue that racism doesnt exist because it does. however, boston (and most big sports towns) in general tends to glorify their stars and overlook any of their faults. if the celtics win it all, kevin garnett wont be able to do any wrong either. david ortiz is in the same boat. it doesnt have much to do with race in these cases.

  94. Ben

    Pete,

    I’ve got a lot of respect for you, but I just can’t stand the Pats. Not one bit. And I’m sure it’s the same for people that can’t stand the Yankees, but to me at least, most (NOT all) of the Pats fans are oblivious to the football world outside of them and see their team as the ONLY team. A good deal of Pats fans that I talk to (Not you, I’m sure) see absolutely no weakness in any player on any play for their team. It bothers me way too much. I stand by my feelings that the refs handed the Pats the Ravens game, and that AJ Feeley gift-wrapped the Eagles game (though that one the Patriots deserved to win, it was just annoying), and the Colts should’ve won their game (Though the Pats ultimately deserved that one in the end), and now, that Eli and awful coaching gave the Pats this one.

    I think they should’ve wound up 14-2, and deserved to go 15-1. Still an outstanding football team, just one that I could never root for, ever. Even as a die-hard broncos fan with big division rivals like the Raiders Chiefs and Chargers, there’s still no team I enjoy the Broncos beating more (and I should remind you they’ve had no trouble with them recently) than the Patriots. They play next year and I look forward to that game.

    I still feel very strongly that if the Pats play a team like the Jaguars, or even the Colts again that they’d lose. The Colts are having an outstanding year, and minus one or two plays earlier they could’ve beaten the Pats. The Jaguars are the team I think matches up with them the best, solid D with a consistent QB, and excellent, fast defense to keep up with new england.

    If they get by those teams, might as well give them the superbowl.

    Just my opinions though, Thanks for reading (if you do).

  95. Buddy Biancalana

    The NY Post is more like toilet paper than a newspaper.

  96. Catherine

    Chris,
    I am not comparing them. I am just saying I work for the Phillies as an intern (I go to school in Philly) and everyone just talks about the Yankees. I know the affect they have. ESPN covers the Knicks and Isiah drama more than any other NBA story, you can’t deny that. I am not comparing the Giants and Yankees I am just saying it is dumb to ignore the fact that New York sports make headlines no matter what the story. People love to read about New York, especially when theyre suffering (Knicks, Arod opt out)

  97. Boston Dave

    Pete,

    How about a post about the movie Juno?? That was a kickass film. Go see it.

  98. asburyboss

    Boston Dave…Tom Brady could run a dog-fighting ring and NESN would commend him on his work with strays. Let Mike Vick try it.

  99. mel

    ESPN is building a campus adjacent to the Staples Center. Hopefully it will alleviate some of the East Coast bias.

    They’re sending some top talent out there. You guys can keep Steve Phillips, though. lol.

  100. Boston Dave

    Ben,

    Jaguars look good.. but it would still be an upset if they beat the Pats. The Bears are my favorite team but I root for the Pats somewhat. If you listen to Boston radio though, most fans are always trying to find something wrong with their teams. Maroney got ripped on all season. I dont think they feel their teams are perfect. If anything they whine and complain about the guys who arent. I am guessing that if your favorite team goes 16-0 next year, youll be on the other side of the coin. Gotta give the Pats some credit.

  101. YanksSox

    I smell a lot of jealousy on this blog tonight

  102. Boston Dave

    asbury – lol, at this point you might be right. ESPN is a different story though. they need to ditch the bias.

  103. Boston Dave

    YanksSox – you’re probably right. we need to put an end to the Pats talk. If you dont like them, root for them to lose. thats all you can do. if they win the super bowl, give them their due credit.

  104. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers!

    Okay, I’m off to sleep now.

    When i come back in the morning I ’spect you all to have stopped fighting over this =P

  105. Boston Dave

    Rebecca – nite, but dont count on it! PEte, make another post QUICK!

  106. ugueth

    “The Pats and The Yankees are tied at the hip, folks.”

    Hey if you want to root for the Pats that cool. But this statement about the Yanks-Pats is a complete exaggeration.

  107. Catherine

    In another topic,

    I have to dress up for a New Years Eve party, the theme is “2007″ and we are supposed to dress like something for the past year. Any ideas?

    I am thinking of being the steroid crisis, any things I could include to enhance that costume?

  108. greg

    you could have large fake needles sticking out of various places

  109. Ben

    Boston Dave–

    If any team beats the Pats it’ll be an upset, but I won’t be shocked. They’ve been on the verge of losing almost every week recently (forget about the Dolphins game). I guess the point I should’ve made was that yes, they whine and complain too much about their team, but so do I.

    During football season I do NOT shut up about the broncos and for some reason, in NJ, that just pisses people off haha.

    But they, and by they I mean most I’ve talked to, and I know a good 15-20 Pats fans from Massachusetts (The ones from here that aren’t from that area are more than likely bandwagoners.), they are the ones who speak about the Pats in that “We’re far better than you, we know it, and we want you to suffer because of it” kind of tone. It’s been frustrating as hell listening to them tell me each week how much closer the Patriots are to perfection, how Tom Brady is god, and how Bill Bellichick is the smartest person alive.

    I just can’t stand it.

    And let’s be honest, there’s no way the Broncos are going 16-0 next year. I wouldn’t be the least bit shocked to see them turn it around and be a legit AFC threat–they weren’t far this year until a flurry of injuries, unbeleivable luck, and some tough plays turned them around. I’m kind of happy they turned out how they did, now they get a good draft pick, and I’m thrilled with Cutler, Marshall is the best young WR out there, and they’re not bad defensively, they just need to use this draft pick to help stop the run.

  110. Catherine

    Let’s just stop the Pats talk, until they win the SuperBowl they aren’t the Greatest Team Ever…so let’s just spare ourselves this discussion

  111. Greg Cohen

    Yankees and Pats tied at the hip………

    ummm… No.

  112. Brent

    Pete I love your site but jesus christ nobody wants to hear about the patriots. Most of us are NY area and dont care to hear about the football team most Redsox fans like. Go post this crap on a patriots messageboard.

  113. ugueth

    I think the Colts will defeat the Patriots in the AFC Title game.

  114. Catherine

    As Hannah Montana (whose tickets have sold for higher prices than any Pats game…ever) says, “Nobody’s Perfect”

    Let’s move on…

  115. JMan

    Please stop talking about the Patriots. I come to this blog regularly to read about the Yankees and get away from the incessant talk about the Patriots. Please make this is a Yankee blog only, I liked you more before I knew you were a Patriots fan.

  116. Rochacha

    Plus Jeter\’s been playing since \’95, Brady since 2001. Brady has 2 SB MVP, Jeter has 1 WS MVP. Brady has record for most TD and highest QB rating in a season. Jeter doesn\’t have the record for anything in a season.

  117. Mike Pacella

    After watching that game, I’d say the Pats are obviously one of the greatest teams ever. However, personally, I think the ‘85 Bears are the better team. That team just completely shut you down and slammed the ball down your throat. The Patriots have the best passing offense, ever, but, have an awfully suspicious defense, and a running game that would be god awful if teams didn’t have to defend against their past.

    That being said, first team to 16-0 is an amazing accomplishment. That also being said, and this is the sad part, if they don’t win the Super Bowl it is meaningless. They would go down in the annals with the 2001 Mariners, the 1998?? Minnesota Vikings (15-1 and lost to the Falcons in the playoffs, who, oddly enough, had the most points scored in a season up until tonight, and who also had one Randall Moss on their team).

    As for the G-Men, major kudos for not just sitting everyone and “playing it safe”. They played a helluva game. However, hard to see them doing better than perhaps 1 playoff win.

  118. al arodien

    To assbury boss: Its no joke brady gets the real stuff he now has that brazilien girl she is the richest model in the history and of course that means that she is the nicest! i agree jeter has some hot stuff but he has his girls just for a few days and then or they leave him or he leaves them! Anyways who cares the main thing is that they are both winners

  119. Mr. Faded Glory

    That was one of the worst officiated games I’ve ever seen.. and I have no hate for the Pats whatsoever, but it seemed like the officials wanted to be able to tell their grandkids that they were refereeing the 16-0 game.

  120. mel

    Why does everyone hate on Pete when he talks about his football team? What if he talked non-stop about the Giants or Jets? Would that stop the comments and the hate e-mail?

    If anything, we should hate on him for talking about the Boss too much. Just kidding, guys, just kidding.

  121. mel

    Mr. Faded Glory,

    You’re kidding, right? That means you didn’t see the Patriots play at the RCA “make plenty noise so they can’t tell we pipe in noise” Dome? The Patriots got totally robbed.

  122. cupaJOBA

    C’mon guys.. the Pats and Yanks are both classy teams. They went 16-0 and didn’t even celebrate on the field. Brady broke peyton’s record of 49 TD’s and he didnt even celebrate on the field, all he was concerned about was getting the 2 point conversion! Brady is a team leader and a team player, just like Jeter.

    Pete was comparing Jete and Brady because of their clutch abilities. If i wanted 1 quarterback in the NFL to hold the ball down 7 points with 1:30 seconds left in the 4th, I’d want Brady. He’s cool under pressure and will always deliver that game winning drive. Bash them all you want, but the facts will always prevail.

  123. xryanx

    Say what you want, the Giants defense couldn’t hold the Pats. I am not a Pats fan and I am not a Giants fan. Randy Moss has got to be the biggest example of what not to be for aspiring athletes. Hes a quitter. His season in NE this year proves that he quit on OAK, he quit on MIN toward the end, and once he gets paid in this offseason he will quit on his new team. Unless its NE. Then we will keep hearing about how he is a ‘model citizen’ until the Pats stop winning and he starts complaining.

  124. Save Phil Hughes

    The Pats are a great team, they also have some idiotic punks on that team. Poking Jacobs in the eye? For real?
    Congrats to them on going 16-0. Would be fun if they didn’t even make it to the Superbowl

  125. Hiero

    Coughlin should have put a WR with equal speed on Moss. If Brady’s second deep pass was incomplete, the Giants still had a chance of retaining the lead. Even if all they could settle for was a field goal. Never the less, congrats to the Patriots and Brady on his personal achievement of 50 TDs’.

  126. sharp shooter

    We get it pete you are a patriot’s fan.
    Isn’t this the lohud YANKEES blog?

  127. baseball expert

    the jaguars will beat the patriots

  128. mel

    The Jags are in the playoffs? Hmph. I thought the only teams left playing were the Pats, Colts, Cowboys, and Packers.

  129. mel

    That was sarcasm btw. Those are the only teams that are talked about.

  130. jimmy1138

    Shut up the Dolphins? Can’t you bear hearing the truth. It should be 16-0* because if the NFL had any guts the Patriots should have forfeited their first game because of cheating.
    And how many true Yankees fans do you know who run around wearing a Red Sox hat?

  131. NYYStadiumInsider2

    I was this close to winning $800 on this game by playing $100 when the moneyline as +800

  132. kasey

    1. pete’s blog, pete’s rules. when are people going to get used to that? want an all-yankees-all-the-time blog? start your own. i love the sense of entitlement among people who visit a 100% free yankees blog.

    2. “Those Yankee fans who suffered through the late 80s and early 90s know exactly what I mean.” A-effing-MEN. unfortunately, i’m not sure how many of those folks are around here. i don’t love the patriots. i think captain hoodie is an arrogant jerk and moss is your typical “plays hard for a winner, phones it in on bad teams” mercenary (cogarysheffieldugh), but they’re a great football team, and that’s fun to watch.

    3. it’s absurd to judge athletes based on their personal lives (since we know so little about them), however, referring to somebody as “all class” implies – at least to some – that he lives his life a certain way. you kinda left yourself open to some of those brady cracks, man.

    4. i’m a yanks fan and i can’t stand the giants. i have no football team allegiance, i just enjoy watching the games. however, i don’t think i could handle a pats/packers super bowl. the hyperbole and superlatives would be too much to handle.

  133. E-ROC

    There is a lot of Patriot hating on this blog. I’m not fan of the Patriots, but I am a fan of football. I always root for history. I hope the Patriots do win the Superbowl, just for the sake of shutting up the ever whining ‘72 Dolphins. I don’t know how many times they’ve mocked teams chasing history. They even campaign about how such teams aren’t even in their league and blah blah blah….Hopefully, they win it all.

  134. Greg Cohen

    Boras is still upset about the ARod situation

    http://slidingintohome.blogspo.....-rods.html

  135. ariel

    ….classy sans the little bastard

  136. Don Capone

    Congrats on the 16-0, Peter. You’re right though…now the real season begins. Like the 98 Yanks, if they don’t win it all, the season ultimately will be a failure.

  137. realism speaking

    Chicago, L.A., Denver …. ANY city or region other than New England is acceptable to give winning plaudits to. The fans on and off of I-95 north from mid-Connecticut and upward love to be disliked and have no idea how to deal with winning.

  138. Neil M

    Excellent season for the Pats – deserved n all.

    However the season is far from over and the road to glory probably goes via the Jags, the Colts and the Cowboys – none of them are givems – and all of them are mouth-watering.

  139. Karma

    Derek Jeter of football at this point. Does everything right, all class and team first.

    Lets not go overboard. Peter, you, yourself, got on Jeter’s case for failing to stand up for Torre when Sheffield attacked him. Then there was Jeter’s long silence as Torre twisted in the wind.

    I’m not even going to bring up Jeter’s tax problems and bimbo parking-validation eruption. Ooops, I guess I did. ;)

  140. Karma

    Irabu’s Son December 29th, 2007 at 11:43 pm

    If leaving your pregnant girlfriend for a supermodel is classy, consider Brady a a class act.

    What’s wrong with that? It was like he was going to marry her or stay with her forever. It was nice of him to let her go and find someone to marry before she becomes an old maid.

  141. Karma

    The 1972 Miami Dolphin team must be bashing their heads into a wall.

  142. Karma

    Brady is a Yankees fan.

    How does Red Sox Nation deal with THAT !???

    I love the guy who said anything north of New York is useless. Then where would all the New York kids go to college? Half the kids I knew at UMass were from NYC or Long Island.

    Alot of them go to school on the west coast and Florida.

  143. Karma

    ariel-

    that was uncalled for. Just because he doesn’t want to be a father at age 29 didnt make him a bad person.

  144. Karma

    Catherine-

    you can go as a bleached blonde arrested for a DUI (paris, lindsay, Mischa, Nicole).

  145. Karma

    Holy Cow – the Red Sox, Pats, and Celtics are going to win it all, all in the same year. Has a single city ever won all the major championships in a single season?

  146. Doreen

    I’m a very, and I stress very, casual watcher of football. My husband is a Giants fan, so I follow the Giants. For 3/4 of a football game, Eli Manning, and the Giants, played well. But when the pressure came, Manning could not step up his game. And that’s the problem with Eli. Well, those are the problems with Eli. He can’t turn it up a notch when he needs to, and he can’t play an entire game. The fourth quarter was so difficult to watch.

    The Patriots are a great football team. And Tom Brady is unbelievable to watch. Even I, a casual follower of football, can see his greatness both on the field of play and on the sidelines.

    I guess more avid fans of the game are used to this scenario, but I have a real problem with how the last 1 minute plus of the game unfolded. There was only a 3-point difference, and if the team with the ball is forced to run actual plays, rather than “taking a knee,” 1 minute is enough time for anything to happen. I find it reprehensible that in a professional sport a team is not required to play to the end. Even worse, the Giant players were already congratulating the Patriots with time left on the clock. With 10 seconds to go, the players were leaving the field. I’m not sure that Brady’s post-game mini-interview on the field occurred after 00. Anyone else?

  147. Doreen

    Karma,

    In 1969, the Mets, Jets and Knicks all won championships in NY.

  148. Kevin

    The Giants, and I’m a Giant fan, will lay an egg. They’ll go away from what made them succcessful in this game – they’ll return to ultra-conservative play calling. Why? Because they’re the Giants. They haven’t had a game plan since Parcells left.

  149. Vader

    I wonder if the 72′ Dolphins watched that game together and had the champagne on ice. That would have been a great sight to see.

    Regarding Pete, it is his blog and he can talk about what ever he wants. Do you think that if he left to cover a different team that there would even be a LoHud Yankees blog? Well, one that would be worth commenting on.

    Regarding the state of NE vs New York, I am a diehard Yankee fan that lives in RI, and most of my friends are Sawx and Pats fans. The funny thing about these fans is that they are becoming the thing they hated most…Yankees fans.

    Read the Barnicle article in the Daily News Friday, http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....g_n-2.html
    they were losers for so long and now that they’re winners they want everyone, especially Yankees fans, to feel the pain they felt for so long. So the funny thing to me and what bothers them most is that when NE fans try to bust chops just look them in the eye and basically tell them been there done that, the look on their face when you don’t get upset is priceless. And the fact that Brady and Vrabal are Yankees, bothers the sh** out of them. How they can love a Yankees fan is priceless.

  150. Karma

    This thread is priceless!!!

    I re-read TWICE!!

    hahahah

    Boston drives new yorkers nutz!!

  151. Karma

    The Jets were a 1968 team that finished in 1969, the same way the Pats are a 2007 team who will finish in 2008.

  152. Vader

    Or a 16 year old pregnant girl.

  153. Vader

    Is that like a Tiger-slam?

  154. Karma

    Or a 16 year old pregnant girl.

    I missed the reference

  155. Mike NYY- Save the Big Two

    The only reason I hate Brady is he`s so frickin good. The only guy I like on that team is Bellichick

    The Giants played great though and if they`d had a break or two they very well might have won. It was a lot closer than I expected. THe Patriots aren’t unstoppable.

  156. Karma

    Got it – Britney’s sister. Hey, she was also arrested this year.

  157. Karma

    LOL !!

    check out Wiki, they’ve already penciled in the pats as the winner of this year’s superbowl. Scroll down, half way.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L....._champions

  158. Karma

    rats, Wiki took it down, but I got a screen capture. it’s funny.

    http://img186.imageshack.us/im.....owlut2.jpg

  159. Spyder

    If not for some stupid play calls, and injury to Madison on the preceding play on the Moss bomb, the worst officiated game I’ve seen in quite awhile (Moss gets away with murder on pushoffs, holds, leg whips) and some eye poaks and late hits from the Patriots. they would be 15-1 this morning.

  160. dale d

    While we are OT
    The biggest rivalry ever is Micro$oft vs. Apple!

    I log into Lo-Hud for all my football news. Honest, I log into over twenty baseball blogs a day even during the off season so I don’t need another sport to blackhole my free time.

    Waiting for Pitchers and Catchers is like waiting for the ” about a minute left” when installing Leopard.

    Six weeks and a day, thank god.

  161. Spyder

    Pete, I don’t care about what you write about I just don’t think on the heals of a tough loss with some key injuries again it wasn’t the right time. There are many Giants fans here who support their team to me bringing it up serves no purpose other than for yourself.

    The officials were awful last night and they had alot to do with determing the outcome of the game. I just wish we would see Moss play a clean game instead of the pushoffs, and cute little holds he does everyday.

    The Giants don’t have near the core of receivers and QB that the Pats have yet they nearly and probably should have won the game. With the Pats almost losing about 4-5 games in the second half I’d hardly go walking around touting them as the greatest ever.

  162. LathamJoe

    I am a Giants fan and, for the most part, enjoyed last night’s contest. The Giants are not in the same League as the Pats but gave their all when they could’ve “mailed it in”. Brady was under the most pressure he’s had all season, but still managed to make the big plays – he’s a great QB. Manning played his best football of the season – for three quarters- but typically folded under increased line pressure. There were some questionable calls/non-calls, but the Pats seemed to have gotten them all season. One that stood out was in the 1st Quarter when Brady was sacked on a 3rd & 15, only to have an “illegal contact” called on CB Cory Webster when it appeared to be offensive pass interference. Pats kept possession and went on to score in that Series. THIS JUST IN – The Giants secondary sucks and has all season!

    Doreen;
    There’s a very good reason for QBs “taking a knee” to run out the clock. In 1978, the Giants had a 17-12 lead over the Eagles with 30 seconds left, deep in their own territory.
    Giants QB Joe Pisarcik handed off to his Fullback Csonka and the ball was fumbled. Eagles DB Herm Edwards picked it up and ran it in the Endzone for a TD – Giants lose!
    “The Miracle of the Meadowlands” – ugh!

  163. Doreen

    Latham Joe -

    I understand you don’t want to take the chance of losing the game. My point is that if there is time left, the game should actually played to the end, regardless of how it turns out. What if last night it turned out in the Giants’ favor? Wouldn’t it have finally erased that 1978 heartache?

    By the way, when I read this to my husband, he chuckled a bit. Knew exactly what you were referring to.

  164. Doreen

    Latham Joe -

    20 seconds left, okay, I could see that. Not over a minute. :)

  165. pat

    Doreen
    I understand what you’re saying but it isn’t just football thing. The same thing happens in basketball, hockey and most other sports that the game runs on a clock.

    That’s what makes baseball unique in a way. They have to play all 27 outs.

  166. DavidinTokyo

    If it’s not baseball, who cares?

  167. Thurman

    I only wish Jeter and Brady would send one or two of their castoffs my way….!

  168. NYYStadiumInsider2

    Think you know your Yankees? Try this Yankee Insider Quiz!

    http://host288.ipowerweb.com/%.....squiz1.htm

    Anything 12 and above is impressive

  169. Jax

    Good game by the Giants. Wasn’t a fan of playing the regulars though. The stadium was the loudest it’s been in a while. Any Giant fan who sold their tickets should be embarrassed, it turned out to be a fun historic game. A game that you should want to be there for. You can tell Belichick has a soft spot for the Giants listening to his conferences after the game and earlier in the week. Which is the complete opposite of how he feels about the Jets. Anyway congratulations to the NE Patriots for a great season.

  170. chicken

    if the pats finish it off, they’ll never shut up.

  171. GRRRRRRRRR

    I always felt that taking a knee at the end of a football game was a pathetic way to win. I know a lot of teams do this, its not unusual at all, but in my opinion it shortens the game from the full playing time.

    I don’t like that Patriots, can’t stand Belichick and Brady is turning into the same type. With the way Brady has been commenting this season, he lost any respect he would have gotten from me.

    I don’t have any allegience to a football team. I enjoy watching games and would normally be happy to see a team doing as well as the Patriots. Normally. But Belichick and Brady and Moss just leave me flat. I don’t care if Brady is a Yankee fan. His attitude is nothing like Jeter’s. When I hear him on interviews I only hope he is taken down.

    This “perfect” season started with scandal. I can only hope that they don’t make it into SuperBowl, as I really can’t stand rooting for some team to lose rather than rooting for a team to win.

    I feel only slightly less loathing for this version of the Patriots that I do toward the Red Sox. Maybe they will seal it for me and give me one single team that I will never root for in football.

  172. black_tiger

    Catherine –

    Dress as a steroid-filled syringe. That aught to exemplify the year accurately.

  173. Yazman

    Peter does an awesome job feeding all us Yankee fans with the latest Yankee news, and keeping this the liveliest blog I’ve ever seen. Posting about other hot sports topics (especially when the Yanks are quiet) is a nice bonus. Keep up the great work, Pete.

  174. melky

    I’m a Packer fan so I have no ax to grind, but how come the Pats O-line, wide outs, especially Moss, and their db’s can grab and hold and never be flagged and other teams players i.e. last night Webster/Toomer, are called for tickey tack calls?

    I don’t know that these calls would have changed the game, but they certainly changed momentum. I watched 4-5 Pats games this year and not once did they ever have a critical call affect a play. Are they that superior to the rest of the league in making plays, or do the refs look the other way?

    Also I would hope Woolfolk will be fined by the league for his tasteless finger poke. I’m sure if Jacobs retaliated he would have been tossed. If any articles in the Globe referenced this play I missed it.

  175. Yazman

    Last night, the two announcers argued briefly about what 16-0 would mean if the Pats didn’t win the Super Bowl. But they argued at slightly cross-purposes.

    Is 16-0 historically significant? Absolutely, no matter what happens from here. It’s an amazing accomplishment and record, and arguably the most dominant regular season ever.

    But should the 2007-08 Pats go down in history as one of the best teams ever if they don’t win the Super Bowl? I say no, they’d rank behind the XVI teams who won it all.

  176. mike in St. Thomas USVI

    If you think the ‘72 Dolphins are annoying imagine Red Sox/Patriot fans if their team goen 19-0…

  177. baseball reigns

    Baseball is the only game not governed by a clock. The defense ALWAYS has the ball.

  178. Joe_NH

    Pats are Cheaters! Any time you think of Bonds you think of Steroids and any time you mention this season, Super Bowl or not, I will think of cheaters. I do not care if they never did it since week one, they were caught when told not to do it! Bill boy is above everyone when he basically bitched slapped the NFL by ignoring the Memo received before the season started telling teams not to Video Tape. Bill runs on his own clock and now to me what could of been a History making event is now tainted! They probably would have done all this regardless, but this will be the only negative mark on a truly great season.

  179. Yazman

    One last post on this:

    I’m a Giants (and Yankees) fan who lived in Sturbridge, Massachusetts 2001-2005. The Pats first Super Bowl run and victory was an extraordinary thing to watch.

    As you’ll recall, the Pats lost the first two games of 2001 and then lost their best player (Bledsoe) to injury, replacing him with a sophomore sixth-round draft pick.

    Two weeks later, they benched their only other star for not putting the team first.

    Every interview along the way had Pats players talking about the only two things that mattered to them — their teammates, and the Pats fans. It was refreshing even for this displaced NY fan.

    When the Pats eschewed the traditional individual player introductions at the start of XXXVI — choosing instead to be introduced as a team — it felt like you were watching sports the way sports was supposed to be.

    Hey, I was screaming for the Giants to win last night. But it’s hard for me as a sports fan to hate the Patriots.

  180. Lauren

    and thank goodness he’s a yankee fan (and has the b@lls to show it) or I’d have to hate his guts!

    proud of the Giants for putting up a decent game, hopefully they can play that well through the next round. GO NY!

  181. randy l.

    “The Pats and The Yankees are tied at the hip, folks”- peter abraham
    huh?

    i haven’t watched a football game in probably ten years. this is from someone who remembers listening on the car radio in a snow storm on the mass pike when johnny unitas snuck in for the td that beat the giants. gifford connerly,tittle,huff,katkavitch,,morrison… i hated bednarik, and played all the time as a kid wearing a giant helmet.

    why don’t i care about football? i have one simple answer; i watched the giant /patriot game last night and i didn’t recognize the giants. a team should be recognizable to a fan who hasn’t watched them in twenty years. there should be a team culture and dna to it that is passed down through the years whether it’s the giants, yankees ,or celtics.

    the giants i knew had a defensive excellence to them at their core . to this day, i always remember in business to control a situation by having a strong defensive position. this comes partly from following the giants as a kid( and yes, i was a celtic fan too). yes the giants had gifford and tittle and morrison, but huff and later taylor were the real stars. i didn’t see any giant defensive dna last night.

    the closest thing i saw to giant culture was belechick on the other side. if a franchise wants to stand the test of time, it has to have something it’s about. when the opposing coach is more about you that you, you know there’s something being missed.

    i don’t think peter a. has it right that the yankees and the patriots are joined at the hip, but it’s understandable everything is mixed up for him considering he probably spent most of his quality time in college at “the pub”in amherst. not that that is a totally bad thing.

    if you want a good amherst pub story, i could tell you about the time the umass summer baseball team met the swedish women’s olympic soccer team that was on a national tour at the time…

    see that; for some reason i just can’t keep my mind on football. it always gets back to baseball.

  182. Buddy Biancalana

    NYYStadiumInsider2-

    Nice quiz, I got 10 pts.

  183. 56Bomber

    16-0 means as much as 116-46. Completely forgettable unless they win it all.

  184. Keith

    Patriots and Yankees tied at the hip ??? Hilarious ! Before the Patriots can be held in the same breath, they need to back off the horn tooting and concentrate on surpassing the Pittsburgh Steelers, Dallas Cowboys, and Green Bay Packers as thee elite of the NFL before “being tied at the hip” with other sports.
    Typical New England. Two left feet.

  185. marissa

    although he’s obviously a talented player and team leader, it’s hard for me to think of tom brady as a class act when he demonstrates the epitomy of a loser by not shaking hands after a loss…. plus all those bitchy faces i can’t stand..

  186. Peter Abraham

    Marissa: I’ll give you $100 for every photo of Jeter or any other MLB baseball player shaking hands with an opponent after any game. What the heck does shaking hands have to do with anything? This fascination with postgame handshakes is amazing.

    Meanwhile, to those who aren’t capable of seeing the big picture, the Yankees and Patriots are tied at the hip because of how they are perceived. Both are major teams in major media markets that much of the rest of the country doesn’t like. They are seen as having all the advantages, etc. The recent success of the Pats is comparable to the 1996-2000 Yankees. Same sorts of teams in a lot of ways.

    If the Pats win the Super Bowl this season, each team will have 4 titles over a similar span of time. With similar sorts of players and management. Cashman and Scott Pioli even look alike.

    Brady and Jeter are so much alike, anybody can see that. They’re both winners, date famous women, conduct themselves properly on the field, care only about the team result, etc. They’re even friends.

    Belichick was at spring training last season, sitting behind the cage with Torre and Cashman. He spent two days with them talking. He didn’t do that with the Red Sox.

    Like it or not, the two teams have a lot of connections. Brady is a Yankees fan. Embrace the Patriots.

  187. GRRRRRRRRR

    Brady is a phoney, he wears Yankee and Red Sox caps. The interviews he gave this year shows he is no Jeter as well.

  188. Rob NY

    Yeah i sat through that game and the g-men really had me fooled. I was waiting for Eli’s inevitable interception and only hoped it wouldnt be at a crucial point in the game, it was. A LOT of patriots fans were in the stadium and for the most part everybody was cool. Got some girl from Holliston’s number lol Tell you the truth though… I completely agree with the Patriots to Yankees analogy. It’s spot on and if you dont see it youre not being fair. I watched the Pats playing and i knew it was just a matter of time. Just like those yankee teams we all loved so much. Only difference? Jeter has enough common sense to wrap it up.

  189. Ludovico

    Brady is so much more valuable to his team, there’s just no comparision. If Jeter was really all “team first” AROD would be playing shortstop and Jeter either first or third.

  190. YanksSox

    For all the Yanks fans that want to take away credibility for the Pats 16-0 season because of ’spygate’ I ask one question.

    Should the Yankees lose credibility for the 2000 WS (Clemens & Pettite), 2001 ALCS, 2003 ALCS (Boone’s homerun, and Giambi’s two)?

    So Joe_NH you should look at your own team as cheaters.

  191. Michael T

    Pete Abe said “Besides, there are nearly 50 comments on the post. Traffic is traffic. I wouldn’t do it if people didn’t respond to it.”

    So Pete is trolling his own blog?

  192. jimmy1138

    “Meanwhile, to those who aren’t capable of seeing the big picture, the Yankees and Patriots are tied at the hip because of how they are perceived.”

    Yeah, everybody hates them…

  193. GRRRRRRRRR

    If Brady was all team then he would just STFU.

  194. Mr. GoodKat

    Tom Brady is Derek Jeter? I think I just threw up in my mouth. If class is leaving your pregnant girlfriend or getting in the face of a rookie safety in Anthony Smith (Pittsburgh) because you beat him on a TD Throw? I mean I wouldn’t have even acknowledged him, let alone get in his face. The Patriots are the most classless team in the NFL. Vince Wilfork tried to gauge out Brandon Jacobs’s eye last night. Rodney Harrison takes late hits on everyone and is always in a skirmish…plus, he’s a CHEATER who took steroids. I don’t even want to start on the SPYGate with the Jets. Bellicheck is the epitomay of a sour sport. His postgame interview of the AFC Championship game last season was priceless, and I chuckled to myself when during last year’s regular season in the closing seconds of a loss to the Colts, he hurled his challenge flag out into the field with rage even though he couldn’t challenge because it was under 2 minutes. Bellicheck has had his own baby mama issues as well. It’s hard for me to root for these guys. Randy Moss is a sell-out who only plays hard when things are going right.

  195. Mr. GoodKat

    With that being said, the Patriots can get their regular season glory, but the odds are against them of going undefeated especially since they will likely go through the Jags and Colts or the class of the AFC as I’d like to call them. I think the Colts could’ve easily gone undefeated if they had one or two breaks. If they beat the Pats, and they outplayed the Pats for nearly 95% of it…and Vinatieri hits an easy FG in the closing minutes against the Bolts…they’re undefeated right now.

  196. mel

    And no one on the Jets or Giants rosters have children out of wedlock? More likely, they do, and you don’t hear about it. Jeez, some of you have so much hate that its blinding and illogical.

  197. Mr. GoodKat

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard the Dan Marino’s, Joe Montana, and Peyton Manning’s of the world having baby mama’s, have you Mel? Have you?

    Checkmate!

  198. small schools

    “Embrace the Patriots”???

    Pete, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. This is a NY blog. Feel free to post about non-baseball items during the winter (movies, events, tri-state sports teams), but please do not, do not, do not post about the Patriots as if this was a Pats blog.

    If you want to post about them and their dominance, that’s fine, but you do not need to wax poetically about their prowess on a Yankees blog. You’re wrong that every Yanks fan is a Giants fan; I myself am a huge Jets fan, as are most people from Long Island (I live in Westchester, but this blog has a large following) and about half the people in the city and Westchester. Unlike other sports, the two teams fan bases compliment each other (they only play every four years). All NY sports fans (Mets included) have an inner hatred for Boston sports teams that is much bigger than just Yanks-Sox; Jets-Pats is a huge rivalry, as is Knicks-Celtics (I can’t speculate on hockey, I don’t know enough about it). I understand you grew up a Pats fan, they’re undefeated, and you have the means to talk about to a lot of people, probably something you dreamed about when you first started writing, but this is not the right place for it, and the fact that you can’t understand that is upsetting after your recent highly intelligent posts (i.e. the Save Hughes post).

  199. george

    the refs totally influenced this game. the bogus sideline call on Toomer – that one is especially hard to explain – bogus interference calls. Blatant.

    you do have to keep this in perspective – the Giants could have won anyway, regardless of the refs’ unprofessional performance. The Giants has some poor tackling, and Brady showed his greatness in that he was very elusive under pass-rush pressure – he’d duck & weave and then get a pass off in situations where most QBs would have been sacked. Brady is a special QB.

    However, it’s just delusional to think that the refs didn’t mightily help the Patriots. The Toomer one was so flagrantly bad, and hosed the Giants’ field position at such a crucial point, that it makes me question the integrity of the officiating crew – did they have some bias towards being part of a “perfect season”? Very unprofessional. Too bad – it definitely detracts from the game when the officiating makes you even think about this/

  200. Mr. Faded Glory

    Peter, I’m more than willing to do as you ask and “embrace the Patriots.”

    I am curious, however, who I should begin embracing first: their gun wielding thug wide receiver who tried to run over a lady police officer, their cheating coach, the defensive lineman who tries to stick his fingers in the eyes of opposing players in between plays, or their steroid using safety who multiple times has been voted the dirtiest player in the NFL?

    I think sometimes Patriots fans don’t understand that the reason people may not like their team isn’t because “they win.”

  201. george

    Apart from the refereeing angle, the Patriots are very impressive. As a Yankee fan, I totally agree with the Brady – Jeter comparison – Brady has always been a great playmaker. Brady hasn’t had an improvisation quite as brilliant as Jeter’s shovel pass in 2001, but Brady is similar, Last nite was very impressive – he made many plays where most QBs would be sacked.

    the Yankee – Patriots analogy is also valid – 2 dynasties.

    Belichik is a genius. as a Giants fan, I will never forget the great game plan against the Bills in the Super Bowl. On papaer, the Bills were better than the Giants. It wasn’t just Belichik – Hostetler played well, Otis
    Anderson was amazing, Everson Walls made a game-saving tackle on thurman thomas before the Norwood attempt – it was a great team effort. But Belichik was a huge factor.

  202. NYPD113th

    “Brady is a phoney, he wears Yankee and Red Sox caps. The interviews he gave this year shows he is no Jeter as well.”

    You’re right, Jeter has a way to go until he’s on Brady’s level.

    Oh well, looks like yet another championship THIS century for Boston.

    Damnit, then I have to worry about the Celts! Then it’s right back to the World Champs in April. ;)

  203. Travis G.

    i’m sure to Pats fans it’ll just be an excuse, but is there any other team in football whose drives are more often kept alive by penalties called on the defense?

    the Pats scored 14 pts last night after two HUGE borderline penalties were called against the Giants: Webster’s ‘illegal contact’ on 3rd & long, and PI on Wilkinson in the end zone. ugh. if not for those two calls, no doubt the Giants win.

  204. NYPD113th

    “PI on Wilkinson in the end zone.”

    If you call that “boarderline” you are nothing more than a sour grapes fan. It was blatant PI.

  205. Mr. GoodKat

    That wasn’t blatant PI? If you knew NFL rules, you’d know that faceguarding is legal as long as you don’t make contact with the other player. Wilkinson never made contact with the receiver if I recall. The ball hit him in the back before he made any contact.

  206. chazzh

    NYPD-

    since you are a pats fan.

    did you see Brady and Moss sniffing that cup of something that Stallworth was holding on the sidelines just prior to kickoff? What the hell was it? Smelling Salts? do they always do that?

  207. chazzh

    p.s. take it easy with the “jeter has a long way to go to become Brady”. they are both great- but I think Jeter still has an extra ring Brady could borrow.

  208. David

    Good thing for the Patriots the referees were playing for them too. Saved their perfect season. They should have two losses if not for the zebras.

  209. marissa

    I’m not the one who compared brady and jeter. . . although i can see the comparisons, i can’t readily agree to it when baseball and football are such very different sports.
    with football being as phyical as it is, with the contact these players have with one another, i always thought of the handshake or whatever other sportsmanlike qualities as practically a necessity in this sport. for decency’s sake anyway.
    i don’t know, maybe the image of peyton manning searching for brady to shake his hand last year as tom was busy marching away to the clubhouse just sticks out.
    i don’t think jeter’s done anything to paralell it in baseball terms, but if i’m wrong let me know.
    you could say he’s just firey or not used to losing but I don’t buy it. losing’s a part of winning and all that crap… insert cliche here …

  210. Dint

    http://www.soxandpinstripes.com

    A moment by moment retelling of the game on a Yankees blog by a Giants fan. Enjoy.

  211. GRRRRRRRRR

    “You’re right, Jeter has a way to go until he’s on Brady’s level.” Posted by disgrace to the uniform…

    That is right, Jeter would have to lower himself quite a bit to be on Brady’s level.

  212. GRRRRRRRRR

    did you see Brady and Moss sniffing that cup of something that Stallworth was holding on the sidelines just prior to kickoff? What the hell was it? Smelling Salts? do they always do that?

    Its Francona’s tobacco spit from the dugout.

  213. JohnFrank

    Brady is like Jeter in that he is the image of football, as Jeter is of baseball. However, he is not all class. He taunts (not on a Phillip Rivers level, but still) A LOT. Jeter rarely, if ever, talks negatively, or at all, about his opponents. That’s class: when your game speaks for itself, and you don’t need to add petty jeers to prove a point.

  214. HELLO?!

    Wait, so you guys are saying you WOULDN’T want Brady as your quarterback?

    Because he trash talks and has a baby mama?

    You’d rather have Eli Manning and Kellen Clemens?

  215. Mr. GoodKat

    Brady is the face of football? I’m under the impression Peyton Manning is.

  216. Ma Manning

    Peyton Manning has a face only a mother could love.

  217. Onkel Bob

    To whom is the artist responsible, to the muse they follow or to the patron? You louts don’t realize it but that is the conundrum that this post explores. Is Peter free to dance with dream that brought him to the ball? Or must he bow to the will of the hoi polloi and restrict his desires to only some common accepted notion of right and proper aesthetics? Can we progress if we only allow a certain aesthetic to be seen? How do we know something is “good” when the mediocre and bad are banished from our sight?
    Kudos to you Mr. Abraham, you are the avant garde on the front to educate and enlighten a hostile and unappreciative populace. It was a philosopher rabbi who stated, a prophet is not without honor except in his own house. Go Pats :^)
    P.S. How long before Godwin’s law is invoked?

  218. Karma

    Mr. GoodKat-

    Joe Montana has been married 3-times. OUCH!

    Marino would have a baby-mama, but he didn’t have and defensive support ;)

    Payton is too busy hanging out with the satellite install guy.

  219. Karma

    Onkel Bob-

    Gisele looks like Eva Braun.

    Ooo[ps. Godwin’s law.

  220. Brian (Red Sox Fan)

    Jeter is a super player and a future HOFer. But to compare him to Brady? Brady has just finished a Ruthian regular season, and has career accomplishments which have many football observers placing him at the same level as Joe Montana among all-timme QBs. And for the uninformed, that puts Brady at #1 all-time.

    Jeter is in a much lower place in the Baseball Pantheon …. an excellent player, but in the second tier among all-time greats. Brady is in the “Front Row.”

  221. Jersey

    Jeter plays for Brady’s favorite team. That counts for something, right?

  222. Doreen

    In one of my earlier posts I mentioned how the Giants were congratulating the Patriots with 30 or so seconds left on the clock. Just to clarify: my objection was not to the handshakes – I think it’s good sportsmanship to do so – it was that there was time left on the clock.

    By the way, I couldn’t convince my dad at dinner this afternoon (a very avid Giant fan) that teams should play out the clock. His opinion was the Giants lost their last chance with the on-side kick, and if you’re winning you have the right to not play it out. My feeling is if the score is out-of-reach, it’s understandable to avoid injury, but not when there can feasibly be a scoring opportunity within the time that’s left.

    I know that other sports that are time-played have the same thing happen. I don’t like it there, either. It ain’t horseshoes, ya know?

  223. Jersey

    Also, I don’t know why I’m reading about the Pats on a Yankee blog. C-ya.

  224. SAndMan

    Well at least Pete is happy this offseason.KNow wonder he doesn’t mind we get Santana.Yankees can struggle with three rookies in there rotation in the next five season and by the time the Yankees are winning the World Series Brady will retire.

  225. JMan

    I don’t want to read about the Patriots, or anything about the NFL on a Yankee blog, it is that simple. Of course Pete can do whatever he wants and the visitors of the blog can also express how much we don’t like it (and for me it is VERY MUCH). He can take it as he wants and it gives another comment on the blog which is really what his bosses want anyways. I do hate it though.

  226. MackNova

    I just have to represent being a Yankees-Jets-Nets-Devils fan. Perhaps the rarest breed of NY/NJ sports fans.

    And I despise the Patriots and wish terrible things on Bill Bellichick. I respect Brady, and I feel that he is just a magnificent quarterback, though I hate him, too.

    I do agree with Pete though, that most of these guys have personal lives that we know nothing about, and we should leave that alone, although I don’t mind reading stories like that.

  227. Mr. GoodKat

    Brady’s not even tbe best QB in the NFL as it stands.

  228. chicken

    you guys aren’t reading this right.

    he’s comparing the yankees (most similar 1996-2000) and the patriots because everyone across america who isn’t a fan of theirs, hates them, because they are the the best team.

    he’s comparing their leaders (jeter and brady) because without them, they wouldn’t be the same, and they put the team first.

    keep denying pete and hating the pats, but pete is pretty much right.

    next…

  229. NYPD113th

    Brady when it’s all said and done will go down as one of the top ten football players ever, if not higher.

    Would Jeter even be in the top 50?

  230. saucy

    Peyton > Brady

    Brady is a product of good coaching/receivers…

    and let me know when Brady is in a bunch of commercials. because we all know that’s the foolproof test of an athlete’s greatness, getting a lot of endorsements on TV!

  231. Paul Fiore

    First and foremost, let me say Happy New Year to everyone who will read this and Peter Abraham.

    Second, the Giants played a good game. Alright, Giant fans have never seen Eli Manning play that well in his Giant career (to my knowledge). Especially without some sort of running game. Okay Brandon Jacobs ran the ball “down their throats” but still Eli proved his composure out there.

    Third, Giant fans lets be realistic now about the defense. Okay you got to Tom Brady but what happened with Randy Moss and Wes Welker. They destroyed Sam Madison and whoever was scheduled to cover Welker. Here is the point- What’s going to happen when they face the Bucs this weekend? Will they lose? I don’t know that. I have some hope that they win but if their defense just leaves receivers open, that doesn’t help.

    Fourth, regarding the officiating. Okay, the Pass Interference penalty has been modified over the years. Should Wilkinson have been flagged for it? Yes. Now here are the rules for Pass Interfence: http://www.footballscrimmage.c.....ence.shtml
    Please read them. Don’t give me, “Oh, he’s a Pat fan.” Please. That was Pass Interference because Wilkinson didn’t allow him to get to the ball.

    Has for that “Illegal Contact” on Webster. I really didn’t like that penalty at all. Now for that penalty on Wilfork. He should have been flagged 15 yards and been ejected for that cheap shot on Jacobs. I’d say the Pats would’ve found some way to win. The Ravens game proved a lot of things about the officiating.

    Last thing, I agree with Peter Abraham on one thing. Pats finished 16-0 in the regular season but the postseason is a new test. Patriots offensive can be the best in football but their defense is still not that great. It’s been proven since their game against the Colts, except for 1, that their defense will struggle.

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