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Abritration process to get underway

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Dec 30, 2007 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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INF Wilson Betemit, RHP Brian Bruney, 2B Robinson Cano and RHP Chien-Ming Wang are all eligible for arbitration. The 10-day filing period starts on Saturday. That means the agents and the teams submit their proposals. The figures are exchanged on Jan. 18 and the first hearings start Feb. 1.

It would be a surprise if any of the Yankee cases went to a hearing. In most cases, the parties split the difference in their proposals. All four of those players are considered signed. It’s now a matter of what their one-year contracts will be worth.

Given their value to the team over the last few seasons, Cano and Wang will be seeking major raises. Cano made $490,800 last season and Wang $489,500.

The Yankees could sign any of the four at any point, to single-year or multi-year deals. While it might be smart to wrap up Cano and Wang, the Yankees usually don’t sign young players to multi-year deals until they have to.

The Yankees actually went to a hearing with Derek Jeter in 1999. He wanted $5 million and they offered $3.2 million. He won.

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110 Responses to “Abritration process to get underway”

  1. Robert December 30th, 2007 at 11:53 am

    Pete
    I find it hilarious that when someone mentioned in an earlier thread that whenever you post in the comment section you say “I love” and then your next comment started with “I enjoy” instead of “I love”. Remember Pete, if you change you let the terrorists win.

  2. Old Yanks Fan December 30th, 2007 at 11:55 am

    Well… Wang and Cano are both WORTH over $10m on the open market. What do they end up with? $5M +/-?

  3. bodhisattva December 30th, 2007 at 12:04 pm

    Cano is going to have a monster year. yanks need to wrap him up long-term. Wang will probably finally win 20 games.

  4. susan mullen December 30th, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    The second sentence of Mike Lupica’s column (NY Daily News) today says the Yankees had a 2007 combined attendance of 8.1 million. That’s about double other accounts I’ve read. He does not say Yankees and Mets combined, just Yankees. Does anyone know how he gets the 8.1 million figure? Thanks.

  5. mel December 30th, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    susan,

    Maybe home and away attendance figures?

  6. Buddy Biancalana December 30th, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    Mel-

    You must be right, after all you are a Yankees & Patriots fan. How the heck did that happen? You grow up in Conn.?

  7. B-D-4 trains December 30th, 2007 at 12:56 pm

    Any arbitrator will rule in favor of Robby Cano and Chien-Ming Wang with the numbers they’ve put up.
    Not the case with Bruney and Betemit although the way the process works, they’ll still have increased salaries from 2007.

  8. mel December 30th, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    Buddy,

    I’m always right because I’m a Yankees (first), Patriots, and Lakers fan. lol.

    I live in a major U.S. city that has NO professional teams. We’re not close to any region, so I got to choose.

    The Lakers have always been a local favorite so that one’s easy. I chose the Yankees, because they epitomize class. I chose well because they haven’t proved me wrong yet. The Patriots are another organization that’s classy and humble.

    Funny story, Kobe did an interview with Dan Patrick this week. DP brought up the Mitchell Report. Kobe made his typical “that’s a tough situation” comment. Then DP followed up with “who’s your team?” He answers with “the Yankees”. DP was like “What?!” Kobe (who grew up in Italy but went to high school in Philly) said loved the Eagles and the Sixers but didn’t like the Phillies. DP asked him why. Kobe was stumped for an answer so he just said, “I dunno. Must be the pinstripes.” I think he was truly stumped, but I knew what he was talking about. The power of the pinstripes is an amazing thing. To me it’s a symbol of excellence, something we should all strive for.

  9. mel December 30th, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    edit: DP asked him, “Why the Yankees?”

  10. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! December 30th, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    So I imagine Cano and Wang might win while Bruney and Betemit might lose?

  11. Alan December 30th, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    It seems to me to be one of the most interesting facets of baseball off-the-field that Jason Giambi pulled in almost 24 times as much as Robbie Cano and Chien-Ming Wang last season. It’s the dynamic that pays over-the-hill payers huge gobs of cash for past heroics with no concommitant present output while kids making next to nothing tear up the league. (Yeah, we’ve lost context if $400,000/year is a pittance.)

  12. mel December 30th, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    The Yankees are a funny organization. They’re quite consistent with their contracts, arbitrations, and extensions. Rather tight. But if you play your cards right, you have a chance to be a Yankee for life and make mucho dinero later.

    If they offered Jeter $3.2 and lost, they’ll probably lose with Cano and Wang as well.

  13. randy l. December 30th, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    hey mel-
    i grew up a yankee, giant, and celtic fan. i found out later red auerbach modeled the celtics after the yankees. nothing was more fun to watch in basketball than those laker/ celtic championship clashes with magic and bird.

    i think pete is stretching it when he tries to make the yankee/patriot connection. his connection is he grew up a patriot fan and is a beat reporter for the yankees. that’s not exactly a natural connection that many other people have .

    it’s great that brady is a yankee fan though( good for tweaking red sox fans here on cape cod) and that belichick spent time with torre . he was probably trying to figure out how not to go 7 years without winning another championship.

  14. Patch December 30th, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    Still too funny:

    Sept. 24: Little-known prospect Joe Harvey Oswald hits first MLB homer. “It is high, it is deep, it’s gone! … An assassin’s bullet to left for Oswald!,” yells John Sterling. “He acted alone!”

  15. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! December 30th, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    Patch: So agreed!

  16. mel December 30th, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    randy l,

    How’d you get that combo?

    Long-suffering Celtics fans must be in heaven right now.

    Hopefully, KG will let the Lakers grab a win today. He’s always been generous to us in the past. :)

    I think that Pete’s trying to make the point that both teams are great, at or near the top year in and year out. Both teams are not only committed to excellence, but achieve it. And yes, both teams are reviled by people who aren’t fans.

  17. Flam December 30th, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Cano needs to start being a 20+ homerun type of hitter…

  18. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! December 30th, 2007 at 2:20 pm

    Forget the home runs. Cano hits well enough. he needs to learn how to run the bases.

  19. Scott Proctor's Arm December 30th, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    He also needs to listen to the GM when he tells him to play six games.

  20. SAndMan December 30th, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    Cano really needs to run better.He runs like he has flip flops.

    Wang needs to stop trying to throw strikouts and stick to the groundballs he gets.He had more strikouts barely but 199 hits in 199 innings is not ace material.He wouldn’t have 19 wins in any other team but Boston.He a great pitcher but he needs to be our #2 innings eater thats it.

  21. Brandon (Proud supporter of "ALEX BEING ALEX") & dammit SAVE HUGHES !!! December 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    ^^^ he’s a gamer, he tried to get away w/ it if anything it shows how anxious he is to get better, atleast we know the Yankees aaren’t sleeping in progress reports

  22. Brandon (Proud supporter of "ALEX BEING ALEX") & dammit SAVE HUGHES !!! December 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    so whoelse heard how the DRays want to deal Kazmir :D

  23. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! December 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    Cano is a gamer.

    Just needs better baserunning

  24. Eddie Layton December 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    Yanks should sign Cano and Wang to long-term deals now. Offer them each 4 years/$40 million.

  25. Wolf In Pinstripes December 30th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    Cano has improved every year. I see no reason why he won’t continue that trend this year – especially with them pulling him out of winter ball so that he doesn’t get worn out or aggravate that calf.

  26. mel December 30th, 2007 at 3:38 pm

    I agree, Wolf. Once upon a time Cano never met a ball outside the strike zone he didn’t like. And do you remember the old Cano with men on base? That’s another area he really improved in.

  27. B-D-4 trains December 30th, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    Cano would have ocasional mental lapses on the basepaths under Torre. Joe Girardi will keep him mentally sharp.

  28. Wolf In Pinstripes December 30th, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    Spot on, mel. He showed flashes of increased patience at the plate this year. He just needs to make it a consistent habit.

    Cano is just one player I think the retention of Kevin Long is going to pay dividends with.

  29. Sammy Pereira from Orlando, Fl December 30th, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    Out of the four, I truly believe that Cano and Wang will get hefty raises (they truly deserve it), and I would also make them commit to multi-year contract (4-5 yrs to start with). The other two will get raises also but not as much as they would expect. With Cano putting up the numbers he put up in 2006 and 2007 where he led all major league 2nd basemen in stats, I see no problem here. With Wang, the same thing… two and half years in majors with 10 wins in 2005 (half season), and 19 wins in both 2006 and 2007… these are staggering numbers of wins for a young pitcher in his first 2.5 yrs in the majors… his win to loss ratio is astounding. On another note, imagine him in 2008 with 20 wins and at least 15 each for Ian, Joba, Phil, Pettite and Mussina, you have 95 wins alone… I say the Yankees win 100+ games in 2008 enroute to a tight race with Boston for 1st place in AL East….

  30. mel December 30th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    For those who worry about wins & losses or refs & umps, watch this Outside the Lines video. It really puts things in perspective and makes you grateful that everything you have. You’ll think twice before complaining about what’s on the dinner table. There’s a line in there that’ll have you thinking “Jorge” as soon as you hear it. Hint: it has to do with “toughening” the hands.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/index

  31. Eddie Layton December 30th, 2007 at 4:42 pm

    Sammy wrote: “On another note, imagine [Wang] in 2008 with 20 wins and at least 15 each for Ian, Joba, Phil, Pettite and Mussina, you have 95 wins alone”

    That makes no sense, Sammy. Are you proposing a six-man rotation? Teams don’t use six-man rotations. And even if they did, there wouldn’t be enough starts for all six starters to win 15 games realistically. Even in a five-man rotation the fifth man almost never wins 15 games because his starts get bumped when there are off days.

  32. Doreen December 30th, 2007 at 6:35 pm

    Mel -

    I remember that story when it happened. The survival instinct is very strong. And you can’t be judgmental unless you’re ever in that situation. Like the man said, it’s easy to say you wouldn’t do it, but he was there and he knows not only did he do it, but so would most anyone.

    I love Robbie Cano as a player and I agree that he has shown improvement and a willingness to work on his weaknesses each season. I also don’t care if he ever hits more than 15-20 homeruns in a season. As long as he keeps going line-to-line, keeps those doubles coming, and takes a few more walks. I also agree about his improvement with men on base.

  33. PittsburghYankeeFan December 30th, 2007 at 7:29 pm

    When is Scott Proctor up for arbitration? Is there a “mercy” clause built in?

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