Comments on: Clemens says injections were legal

By: Don

Don — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:01:59 +0000

I am a long-time Yankee fan, but I respect the viewpoint of Brian (Red Socks fan) and thank him for his contribution. I think the future looks dark for Clemens.

By: Annie Savoy

Annie Savoy — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:45:58 +0000

So, now we find out that Roger Clemens for all his ‘workouts’ is just another cheating, lying professional athlete. Where will it all end?

By: Brian (Red Sox Fan)

Brian (Red Sox Fan) — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:27:45 +0000

vrsce …. Clemens is in the news, and has been with both the Sox and Yanks. I don’t think that I’m driving this agenda (check the initial blog post by Pete).

Stop being so parochial. It’s not as though I’m attempting to debate the stature of Ted williams and Carl Yastrzemski.

Happy New Year!

By: vrsce

vrsce — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:56:32 +0000

So now this is the Brian (Red Sox Fan)site?

Clemens was a HoF pitcher, whether he juiced or not.

The whole era is suspect, including many Red Sox players (Ortiz whose performance and shape has changed since he signed.
So what we really have here is a personal Brian agenda.
the objective view is that the entirety of MLB is under a cloud for the steroid period. that is how it will be remembered, not just named players from the Mitchell report.

By: Brian (Red Sox Fan)

Brian (Red Sox Fan) — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:05:25 +0000

Steve …. I’m a little late on this one, but I have my doubts about Ortiz as well.

By: Noname

Noname — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:04:24 +0000

ellen said, “Wow, I would really love to have some of the folks here on a jury – a little conjecture, a wink here and nod there – easily convinced of what they want to be true. Facts optional,” after I wrote, “Iâ€™ll bet the sportswriting world now will re-examine Clemensâ€™ claims about ‘the blister’, ‘the umpire threat’, ‘the arrest at Bayou Mamaâ€™s’”

As a matter of fact, if any of the guys who post in SportsJournalists.com ’s “Sports and News” section ( http://www.sportsjournalists.c.....252.0.html ) have a HOF vote in 5 years, I don’t see much chance for Roger getting in there…

By: Noname

Noname — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:00:00 +0000

It doesn’t raise mine. David Arias Ortiz was seen by the Twins as a spray hitter, not so much a power hitter, to take advantage of the Metrodome turf. That wasn’t his forte, so he became a “loser”. The Red Sox asked him to do just what comes naturally (emphasis on NATURALLY), and he blossomed.

Heck, his power career will probably last about as long as Cecil Fielder’s, or Mo Vaughn’s, or George Bell’s, or Bo Jackson’s, or anyone else you can care to name that’s built like a brick …house.

Why don’t you just revel in the fact that ARod is a Yankee, and stop all this Ortiz hate?

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:58:42 +0000

Brian (Red Sox Fan)

Do you see the same “transformation” of David Ortiz from released loser to MVP candidate? Just curious if that raises your eyebrows any?

By: ellen

ellen — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:29:57 +0000

Wow, I would really love to have some of the folks here on a jury – a little conjecture, a wink here and nod there – easily convinced of what they want to be true. Facts optional.

By: Noname

Noname — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:24:28 +0000

pat said, “I donâ€™t doubt you, I know the quote. I donâ€™t see it as a compliment. Sounds like something that would be said about a player you thought was in decline or at a retirement dinner.”

It was said AFTER Clemens signed with the Blue Jays, so, yeah, I’m sure they were as kind words as Duquette could come up with after Clemens
went out the door waving his Canadian dollars in Duquette’s face after swearing that he would either pitch for the Red Sox or Houston. You could say Clemens retired himself from being a Red Sox.

It was Clemens himself who misquoted Duquette’s original statement in the months following, including ST with the Jays. And that’s what’s been printed ever after…as if everyone thought Clemens always was Boy-Scout truthful.

I’ve counted 9 major lies that Clemens has told between 1986 regarding episodes in both his career and personal life, not including this current business; and until now, HIS word has been taken as gospel.

I’ll bet the sportswriting world now will re-examine Clemens’ claims about “the blister”, “the umpire threat”, “the arrest at Bayou Mama’s”, etc., etc.