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	<title>Comments on: Pinch hitting: Canyon of Heroes</title>
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		<title>By: h8r</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/07/pinch-hitting-canyon-of-heroes/comment-page-2/#comment-238522</link>
		<dc:creator>h8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice story.  Slightly better than the Yankees Chick&#039;s post, I&#039;d say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice story.  Slightly better than the Yankees Chick&#8217;s post, I&#8217;d say.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockin' Rich</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/07/pinch-hitting-canyon-of-heroes/comment-page-2/#comment-238382</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockin' Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done!</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/07/pinch-hitting-canyon-of-heroes/comment-page-2/#comment-238325</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, best guest post so far. Thanks Mike!

About that alleged Friday night phone call, what appears incredibly strange to me is that they talked for A WHOLE HOUR! If I was Clemens (or McNamee for that matter), whether I was innocent or guilty, I would never speak for an hour with my accuser. You could be squeaky clean and something could still be misinterpreted and used against you out of a transcript of a one-hour conversation, unless Clemens is a programmed robot or reading strictly from a script fed by his lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, best guest post so far. Thanks Mike!</p>
<p>About that alleged Friday night phone call, what appears incredibly strange to me is that they talked for A WHOLE HOUR! If I was Clemens (or McNamee for that matter), whether I was innocent or guilty, I would never speak for an hour with my accuser. You could be squeaky clean and something could still be misinterpreted and used against you out of a transcript of a one-hour conversation, unless Clemens is a programmed robot or reading strictly from a script fed by his lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Murph alludes to this, but the more I think about it, the more I believe Clemens has no interest in any financial recovery.  Clemens is going to use these proceedings as a means to villify the Mitchell investigation, the federal investigation, and the cooperation between the two groups that led to the disclosure of McNamee&#039;s statements that would otherwise have been kept secret unless someone was actually charged with a crime based on these statement.  Clemens can&#039;t go after the prosecutor or Mitchell directly -- but through McNamee he can force them to open up about the clumsy and possibly unethical methods they used in their respective investigations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Murph alludes to this, but the more I think about it, the more I believe Clemens has no interest in any financial recovery.  Clemens is going to use these proceedings as a means to villify the Mitchell investigation, the federal investigation, and the cooperation between the two groups that led to the disclosure of McNamee&#8217;s statements that would otherwise have been kept secret unless someone was actually charged with a crime based on these statement.  Clemens can&#8217;t go after the prosecutor or Mitchell directly &#8212; but through McNamee he can force them to open up about the clumsy and possibly unethical methods they used in their respective investigations.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe from Long Island</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe from Long Island</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy I - terrific post.  

This brings up a tremendous question.  If Sandy Koufax had Vioxx available, do you think he would have used it?  
Does that make him, Roger, or any athlete, a &quot;cheater&quot;?  If Vioxx, ibuprofen, aspirin, hydrocortisone injections into an inflamed joint (How many did Big Papi take this past season for his knee?) all take away pain, allowing the athlete to perform better...Aren&#039;t these all &quot;performance enhancing drugs&quot;?  What about a cup of coffee for a day game after a day-night DH in September?  Of a game after a red-eye in from the coast?  

To go further, what about Gaylord Perry and his performance enhacing spit, Vaseline, or whatever he admitted to (after retiring, of course)?  Should he be kicked out of the HOF?

Just because something has been deemed legal or illegal, does that make it less of an issue?  I don&#039;t mean that we should ignore the use of illegal prescription drugs, but there is a larger issue here.  Big pharma is a part of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy I &#8211; terrific post.  </p>
<p>This brings up a tremendous question.  If Sandy Koufax had Vioxx available, do you think he would have used it?<br />
Does that make him, Roger, or any athlete, a &#8220;cheater&#8221;?  If Vioxx, ibuprofen, aspirin, hydrocortisone injections into an inflamed joint (How many did Big Papi take this past season for his knee?) all take away pain, allowing the athlete to perform better&#8230;Aren&#8217;t these all &#8220;performance enhancing drugs&#8221;?  What about a cup of coffee for a day game after a day-night DH in September?  Of a game after a red-eye in from the coast?  </p>
<p>To go further, what about Gaylord Perry and his performance enhacing spit, Vaseline, or whatever he admitted to (after retiring, of course)?  Should he be kicked out of the HOF?</p>
<p>Just because something has been deemed legal or illegal, does that make it less of an issue?  I don&#8217;t mean that we should ignore the use of illegal prescription drugs, but there is a larger issue here.  Big pharma is a part of that.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*something that you&#039;d press*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*something that you&#8217;d press*</p>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murph, as a lawyer, would these two phone calls be something that&#039;d press the issue on, to find out just how deep Novitzki was willing to go and to what lengths of legality/illegality in trying to get a big NAME trophy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murph, as a lawyer, would these two phone calls be something that&#8217;d press the issue on, to find out just how deep Novitzki was willing to go and to what lengths of legality/illegality in trying to get a big NAME trophy?</p>
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		<title>By: Yanksrule57</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yanksrule57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy l,

Thanks for the informative post. A couple of comments. 

My wife was trying to lose weight a few years ago and was taking a supplement that I later found out had ephedra in it. I started taking it and liked the energy kick it gave me. One day I was out playing golf, riding a cart mind you when all of a sudden I got dizzy and my eyes began swinging uncontrollably back and forth faster than a speed reader.
I sat down on a bench for a few minutes and felt better but I never took ephedra again and convinced my wife to do the same. Mind you I am an active athletic person and never before or since experienced anyhting like that. Subsequently I found out that some of the supplement companies had problems with dosage control. At least that was one of the excuses the Feds used in banning it. 

Re Vioxx, no dsipute with the tragedies that occurred but I know several people who were on that and it gave them back their lives. Debilitating Arthritis had robbed them of mobility and wracked them with pain. Vioxx to them was a Godsend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy l,</p>
<p>Thanks for the informative post. A couple of comments. </p>
<p>My wife was trying to lose weight a few years ago and was taking a supplement that I later found out had ephedra in it. I started taking it and liked the energy kick it gave me. One day I was out playing golf, riding a cart mind you when all of a sudden I got dizzy and my eyes began swinging uncontrollably back and forth faster than a speed reader.<br />
I sat down on a bench for a few minutes and felt better but I never took ephedra again and convinced my wife to do the same. Mind you I am an active athletic person and never before or since experienced anyhting like that. Subsequently I found out that some of the supplement companies had problems with dosage control. At least that was one of the excuses the Feds used in banning it. </p>
<p>Re Vioxx, no dsipute with the tragedies that occurred but I know several people who were on that and it gave them back their lives. Debilitating Arthritis had robbed them of mobility and wracked them with pain. Vioxx to them was a Godsend.</p>
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		<title>By: Blargh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blargh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post by Mike

Also, good post by randy l shortly before this one
Sad that it comes back to (big) money in the end :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post by Mike</p>
<p>Also, good post by randy l shortly before this one<br />
Sad that it comes back to (big) money in the end :/</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard it was an &quot;emotional&quot; conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard it was an &#8220;emotional&#8221; conversation.</p>
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