Yankees sign OF Lane
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Brian Cashman said on YES tonight that the Yankees have signed Jason Lane to a minor-league deal.
A right-handed bat, Lane can play all three OF spots and a little first base. He’s 31 and coming off two hideous seasons. He did hit 26 homers in 2005.
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God what a find, two hideous seasons and we sign him while other teams sign frontline players
Two hideous seasons?
Steroid testing at it’s best?
what a waste.
was there any reason given for the contract?
You guys are such cranks. He was signed to a minor-league deal. What “front-line” players would you like the Yankees to sign? They have every position filled.
What’s so wasteful about a minor-league contract?
Pete,
No harm with the minor league deal but i would have rather seen them sign an infielder like Marcus Giles (he signed a minor league deal as well). But I’m certainly fine with signing a guy like Lane to a no risk deal… they used guys like Kevin Thompson… and may need a guy like Lane for short periods (though hopefully not)
All he is, is a cheap insurance policy.
I think I even had Lane on a fantasy team for a little while a few years ago – and won my league
Thanks Jason!
You can’t have enough Andy Phillips type players.
We should have a pete abe fantasy baseball team. I need to get out of my league, I just can’t win in it.
No harm with the minor league deal. Yanks are stacked in the OF positions if everyone stays healthy.
Jennifer –
start it up. you can count me in.
hate to sound like a broken record, but every time 1B comes up i cant believe they let andy phillips go. he was the most known quantity there, steady but unspectacular, fine defense, now we have a gimp (giambi) and two guys who may really hurt them (bettamit and duncan). cant say i trust any of the 3. i hope cash has something better in the works.
jennifer: That’s a great idea! When it comes around in March we should set one up!
I call Mo Rivera!
Lane is a cheap option and maybe, just maybe, he can show enough in Spring Training to make the team and be a key reserve at one of the outfield positions or he could see some time at first base. The opportunity to be on the Yankee roster probably will serve as terrific motivation for Lane. Maybe it will inspire him to regain his ‘05 form. Let’s just see how everything plays out.
Insurance signing to add depth to AAA.
i miss bernie –
i could be wrong but didnt they get stuck and have to let andy go? did they need to free up space on the 40man? I thought their hand was forced somewhat
its a good minor league signing, they lost alot of veterans on their AAA team, he will be good insurance. nothing more nothing less.
FOXSports.com’s Ken Rosenthal believes Mike Cameron could soon sign with the Yankees or Brewers.
I really like a 1yr Cameron signing IF they trade Melky
i understand roster spots were tight, but given the choice i would have release bruney
Rosenthal seems to believe that Cabrera could go to Cubs, Reds, Braves, Royals or Pirates in return for prospects.
i miss bernie –
no argument there, except that they had 1b covered and their bullpen was much more of a question mark (not that bruney made a case in the 2nd half of the season to stay – but he does throw hard)
Yanks looking at Cameron?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7659616
Rosenthal, who might or might know that about which he’s talking, says the Yanks are after Mike Cameron. [source] He misses the first 25 games because of his drug abuse, but then Rosenthal talks about Cameron in center and Johnny in left. Melky’s then as good as gone, though I suppose we hang on to Matsui to DH when Giambi inevitably gets hurt.
cameron, that could be negotiating in anticipation of moving melky (to Minn.?)
bd,
i know but i saw phillips as being worth more than ‘a body’ in the bullpen, even if he throws hard. farnsworth throws hard, proctor threw hard, and together with bruney, they made up a completly unreliable bullpen last year.
It sounded like a good cheap insurance signing, how did we get to dumping Melky and picking up Bad Boy Cameron?
a minor league contract for an extra bat and defense? sounds good to me. low cost, low risk, gives lane a chance to up his value before he hits mid 30s and sticks around in AAA for the rest of his career.
giambi cannot play half the year at 1b, shelley duncan is a question mark. never hurts to have extra help for low cost.
hearing the Melky Cabrera could be replaced by Cameron is not good news to me. I had really counted on if there was no Santana deal, then I didn’t have to think about Melky being gone. I know he’s not an all-star, but I like him. It’s nice to have happy positive energy on a team. Cameron misses time for the drugs, plus, isn’t he injury prone? I sure hope this is just another unfounded, which Yankee outfielder can we ship out this week kind of rumor.
I think the first base situation will work itself out. The bullpen, on the other hand is a real problem.
On the Yankee’s Hot Stove show tonight Cashman named Kyle Farnsworth as the first 8th inning option. Unless 3 or 4 pitchers emerge, the Yanks could have as bad a bullpen as any contending team in the American League.
As the bullpen is currently constructed,there is no one that either get lefties out on a consistent basis (or anyone else for that matter) or set up for Mariano.
Speaking of the Yanks Hot Stove Show,they need to find someone else besides George King. When you’re on television, you need to project. He was a fish out of water and was saved by Jack Curry numerous times.
i cant see them signing cameron unless melky is being moved as part of a larger trade, not just trading melky for prospects.
Rebecca that isn’t how it works.
Good try though. I always lose becuase I draft low. Even in fantasy football. 
Drive 4-5 :
Yeah, George King is as interesting as a mashed potato sandwich. I had hoped that either he or Curry would ask Brian Cashman about the lefthander situation in the bullpen. No such luck.
“When you’re on television, you need to project.”
When you are on stage, you need to project…not when you are on television.
When you’re on television, you just shouldn’t be dull. (and even that doesn’t guarantee you won’t be on TV – see Carson Daly)
How many teams should I make it? And what site? I’ve always participated in Yahoo.
Sign Cameron for 2 years.
Trade Cabrera and prospects to the Pirates for Damaso Marte and Ian Snell.
Is this feasible?
Hope Santana goes to the Mets or stays with the Twins.
I would be interested in the Fantasy league if you will have me.
I just have to figure out how this will work. Do I post a link to it? I don’t know. Help anyone?!
Phil,
I think you know what I meant. Matt did. George King was mumbling and his voice trailed off at the end of his sentences.It was more than boring,it was painful.
Matt,
The mashed potatoes I had on the Shepherd’s pie I made for dinner tonight were a LOT more interesting than King. Chalk it up to garlic lol
Just checked Yahoo it starts early Feb.
typical pete abe. calling us cranks after characterizing our new outfielder by his “hideous seasons”
should we have lavished cashman with praise for this sublime piece of news?
Good Lord. Upgrading from Melky to Cameron would be awesome. We’d get a better bet and probably a better defensive CFer. By the time AJax is ready, Cameron’s deal would be over. On top of that, if Melky could bring back Marte as someone else noted, that would be a HUGE upgrade in the bullpen.
How exactly is he our new ofer? He was signed to a minor league deal.
jennifer
i would love to be in the fantasy league, ive done yahoo several times and even played roto back in the 80’s (when we only got the stats weekly by mail).
Jennifer-
Yahoo is good, but CBS Sportsline is pretty dang good as well. Absolutely count me in, I love Fantasy Baseball. Great idea BTW!
We can even go old skool & play Stratomatic.
I’m in a fantasy league and one of my keepers is Travis Hafner.
I’d be interested in folks’ opinion on if I should retain him as a keeper.Do you think last year can just be written off as an off year for him?
My league is an ESPN league. It’s fun!
Okay so far we have
Jennifer
Buddy Biancalana
i miss bernie
Clay Bellinger
Boston Dave
Rebecca
Jennifer,
Count me in, please
“should we have lavished cashman with praise for this sublime piece of news?”
no, but there is no need to criticize either.
it’s pretty much a non-story.
every single year, every single team signs a bunch of guys to minor league deals to invite to ST. it costs nothing.
it’s not a “waste”.
drive that is tough, is it just a down year for him. Or is it something else?
i was in a yahoo league last season. i liked that setup, and they re-vamped it during the season, so it’s pretty sweet now. if you make a league, count me in.
Okay so far we have
Jennifer
Buddy Biancalana
i miss bernie
Clay Bellinger
Boston Dave
Rebecca
Drive 4-5
How many are normally in a league, do we make it really really difficult and if we can have a 30 teams, if we are allowed.
I should warn you all, my idea of fantasy baseball is to draft a team on day one and then see what happens….
Okay so far we have
Jennifer
Buddy Biancalana
i miss bernie
Clay Bellinger
Boston Dave
Rebecca
Drive 4-5
hughesian bias
Count me in as well, if you don’t mind. Joining a fantasy league would be unreal!
Yanks in on Cameron, too.
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/200.....n-cameron/
(Though last year I was smart enough not to trade Robinson Cano for AJ Burnett! Hah!)
Jenn: Is this a money league or no?
NEW YORK — The lawyer who led baseball’s investigation of Pete Rose said George Mitchell’s failure to release most of the evidence from his probe on doping in baseball undermined the credibility of the report.
Mitchell refused a request from The Associated Press to make public more than 50 documents referenced in footnotes. The former Senate majority leader also has not released notes from his interviews with witnesses who implicated Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Miguel Tejada and others in the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
“That’s ridiculous,” chief Rose investigator John Dowd said Thursday. “That surprises me. I’m sorry to hear that.”
When Dowd’s 225-page report on Rose’s betting was made public in 1989, 84 exhibits accompanied it, including transcripts of interviews with the Cincinnati Reds manager and his associates. The report and the exhibits remain readily available at http://www.DowdReport.com.
Thanks again George (Dick Cheney) Mitchell.
Drive 4-5-
Don’t keep Hafner.
My keepers are Francisco Cordero, Erik Bedard, Brad Penny, Lincecum & Gallardo.
Man, we’d gone two who threads with no Mitchell mention…why’d you have to ruin it?
George King has no idea how many Post readers he must have lost through his stick-in-the-mud appearance on YES.
No doubt his editors must be driven to Bellevue trying to patch up his columns before going to press.
Please Peter, find a way to get on the YES Hot Stove segment so we can forget George King ever appeared.
noo don’t make it a money league, i’m broke after booking my spring break trip.
Jen, I’ll play in your league.
It will be funny watching how many people choose Yankees.
Is the Yankees really in pursuit of Cameron?
no comment,
former senators are still on my moratorium list
I really think Melky and a minor league pitcher would be good enough to get Damaso Marte, as has been mentioned.
I like a Cameron signing for CF on a 2 year deal. He strikes out a little too much for my complete endorsement, but he still covers a ton of ground in CF, and adds some legitimate RH pop and balance at the bottom of the order. I see it as a very similar sort of short-term veteran deal to build a bridge to the young prospects now developing as the one they signed Mike Mussina to after 2006.
To me, the Cubs, Reds, and Royals dont make much sense for Melky as Rosenthal states… but he would make perfect sense in Milwaukee or Atlanta, though i admit i’m not exactly sure what players those teams have the Yankees could make use of…
Money leagues get too complicated, though I would be into a money league. The top 3 should win a prize though, maybe a Joba T shirt or winners choice. Everyone could put in like $10, so is doesn’t break the bank. 30 teams would be insanely competitive, most I have been in is 14 team leagues.
The Mitchell Report is no longer about Steroids but about corruption. It is also about the larger body of politic around us. It will be in the news for quite a while.
I personally want to see Selig go down. And ‘Mr. Pure As Driven Snow’ Mitchell needs to be outed also.
Old Yanks Fan
On my blog ypou asked if we could talk about some stats you made
I e-mailed you and never heard back
Did I get the wrong E-Mail?
no way theres enough pitching for a 30 team league (o sorry that was a post from the last expansion debate)
Okay so far we have
Jennifer
Buddy Biancalana
i miss bernie
Clay Bellinger
Boston Dave
Rebecca
Drive 4-5
hughesian bias
J-Dawg
Phil
As buddy stated money leagues are too complicated. Tracking down people to pay up etc. This is just for fun and bragging rights.
Rebecca I plan to make it a draft, you can set draft order but it is the luck of the draw.
I actually kind of like the idea of making it 30 teams, if it is possible. It will show how difficult it is to fill out a roster with good players.
Old Yanks: Yeah it’s news, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other things to talk about as well
Bernie, it would be soo much fun though. Don’t be a stick in the mud.
Jennifer: If you need filler people to make it larger, then count me in for the league too
To quote Rebecca: “I should warn you all, my idea of fantasy baseball is to draft a team on day one and then see what happens…”
…sounds like what I’d probably do xP
Just added you, I won’t continue to post the list anymore, I have it saved on my computer. And if someone else wants to back me up feel free to keep a copy of the list.
30 teams seems like a lot, though. are there even 30 people here willing to play? i might be able to bring in a friend, but do we want this to be a strictly Pete Abe Blog Fantasy League? Can anyone join?
Jennifer: Sounds great!
Shoot me an email when you start it, otherwise I might forget
A member of the 2004 Red Sox used PED’s. Mitchell is a disgrace.
http://www.waswatching.com/arc.....ember.html
I’d prefer to keep it to just memebers of Petes blog, I don’t think we will have a problem getting 30 people.
jennifer,
do you want our emails?
Rebecca what did your email address begin with, I have to find it.
Do you want to post it on here? I’d really prefer not to post mine.
Maybe the way to do it would be to put in linked in your name, so it doesn’t appear on the comment.
Ten so far, you’ll get a lot more when it moves closer to the season.
jennifer: rebecca@puristbleedspinstripes.com
I already have the email addys of all the guest bloggers, so if you want, I can keep a database of all the email addresses with not much of a problem.
Jennifer
Please count me in for the league.
Like so? Assuming it comes out correctly…
dont know if this was posted already but Kevin Kennedy said a player on the 04 Sox championshp team used peds
http://bronx-bomberz.blogspot.com/
Hmm, yes, I see; just strip off the http:// and add the @ where it’s most appropiate
linked in my name… like this?
also, to go back to the melky trade possibility, does this mean that hughes might go too? or is hughes off the table for a santana trade at this point? i hope so cause when i draft him for my fantasy team, i want him to be yankee not a twin.
Rebecca I just emailed you, let me know what you think.
Blargh
Yep got it.
I just put mine in, just click my name and you’ll see it.
I wonder who the sox player is, I’ve always suspected millar.
Jenn: Got your email, it’s fine by me
hate to say it but…damon?
Doreen-
I hope not.
although I could picture him dropping his pants and showing. I’m hoping it was Millar. Or Trot (the race horse Nixon).
Jennifer -
dmburke11@yahoo.com
While you guys are piling up emails for Fantasy purposes, I think we should have a LoHud day at the stadium. Everyone buy up tickets for one game. All the Yankees bloggers [able to attend] in one place might create an internet black hole.
Jennifer-
Here’s mine.
ham_fighters@yahoo.com
johnny damon? no way. i say it’s gabe kapler. i don’t care how many times he’s denied it, that dude was juicin’ and he was juicin’ hard.
cashman better make a move for a better CF because melky is not the answer. He is a .250 8 hr 50 rbi player w/ strong arm. PLEASE GET CAMERON!
I don’t guess the culprit would be Doug Mirabelli, would it?
I know Jennifer…I hope not, either. Millar or Trot Nixon does make sense. I figure it would fit with the whole Yankees motif, wouldn’t it?
could be right!!
oh ya to people making fun of me for saying the yankees should get santana. do you think kennedy, hughes, and chamberlain wont make rookie mistakes? its going to take a couple of years before they mature into real pitchers. so ya get ready for two consecutive second place seasons! EXCITING! AN OLDER JETER, AROD, POSADA, MO, WOOOHOOO!
could it be…..38pitches? how rich that would be….
If it were Damon, Mitchell would have found a way to get him in the report. So I figure he’s clean.
i predict one of hughes, chamberlain, and kennedy will get sent back down to AAA after he gets bombed by the devil rays. My gut feeling says its going to joba. 1 IP 7 ER = sent back to minors
I believe it stated he was no longer on the team. So unfortunately it is not 38000words.
TurnTwo
I really think Melky and a minor league pitcher would be good enough to get Damaso Marte, as has been mentioned.
I love the idea of getting Marte, but don’t really like that proposal much.
Better: Tabata+Horne+Marquez+S. Duncan+ for Gorzellany+Marte+Nady.
Good deal for both teams. Marte+Nady have been on the block. Gorzellany’s due a big raise soon. All of those Yanks would have starting positions with the Pirates. Duncan would replace Nady at a fraction of the cost. Horne+Marquez could both step into their rotation. Tabata gives the Bucs a ++OF prospect. Gorzellany would be a great back-end of the rotation guy for the Yanks and a second lefty in the rotation. Marte would be a huge boost to the bullpen. Nady plays a decent 1B, has pretty good RH power, is already too expensive for the Bucs.
Boston Dave
Sadly, you’re probably right.
And as someone else stated if it was Damon his name would have been in the report.
ooo Lane, Albadejo and Hawkins! Now we are a sure thing to win it all! Forget about filling first base with some more garbage options. Cash has to concentrate on improving the depleted pen. Mo is on the wrong side of 35 and farnsworth is going nowhere but down hill in the AL. Everyone else is a bunch of no-namers and has-beens. We are banking on another Joba coming through the system and saving us out of the pen by mid-season. Not something you want to bank on exactly. And Horne doesnt look so great to me – i dont think he is the next joba, i dont even think he is the next proctor.
Let’s see, a few of those guys who are no longer on the team include Derek Lowe, Orlando Cabrera, Minky, Dave Roberts (not a friend of ours by any means), Kapler, Nixon, Keith Foulke, and Bill Mueller, to name a few.
i agree with you dave. cashman has done nothing at all this offseason. he used the santana talks to act like hes doing something but actually hes slacking.
jennifer,
Can I be a cheerleader in your league? I don’t know the first thing about fantasy leagues.
Dave: Sounds like you got a plan for reinforcing the bullpen; pray tell us
Mike – I don’t think I got it, although it may have gone into junk.
Please EMail me again at Yahoo: singledddd
If you can put “Baseball Stats” in the subject, that would help
Thanks
mel
You don’t need to know anything, just make sure to sit your starters on their off days. Espically since we are looking to do 30 teams, era’s are going to be ugly.
baseball idiot
nobody cares that you want santanta
you called the entire yankees major league roster crap
you called cashman and idiot.
you think you deserve any respect for any other opinions you have?
baseball expert:
It’s hard for people to admit that Santana is the best pitcher out there and overrated prospects(Melky,Marquez,Mitgross).This season is gonna be like last season.A bunch of young pitchere only going 5 to 6 innings.
WAng our Ace interesting.
baseball expert,
your prediction sounds pretty dumb. out of all three of those, joba’s the least likely to get sent down. don’t you think he’d stay in the bullpen if he bombed his starts? he’s already proven he could play at the MLB level.
“Gorzellany would be a great back-end of the rotation guy for the Yanks and a second lefty in the rotation.”
Why should the Yankees be spending prospects on a back-of-the-rotation guy? His K rates in a week league do not impress me.
Oh come on, look at who made most of the starts at the begining of the season. Wang I believe missed time, Mussina. It will not be like last year.
Hey guys,
If you’re interested in the LoHud fantasy league, send me an email at rebecca@puristbleedspinstripes.com
I’m going to keep a list of all the email addresses, but it’s still Jen’s league
Sorry for the last post
baseball expert:
It’s hard for people to admit that Santana is the best pitcher out there and we can get him for a good prospect (Huges)and overrated prospects(Melky,Marquez,Mitgross).This season is gonna be like last season.A bunch of young pitchere only going 5 to 6 innings.
WAng our Ace interesting.I
He is a .250 8 hr 50 rbi player w/ strong arm. PLEASE GET CAMERON!
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2 yr Melky Career:
15 Hrs/123 RBI (in 280 gms) .275 .340 .388 .728
Yeah, I guess since these were Melky’s first 2 years (age 21 and 22), as he gets older, stronger and more experienced, we can expect his BA to drop 25 pts and his HRs to stay the same.
Do people really need to grossly exaggerate to try and make their point?
dont feed the trolls
Why would you trade a starting centerfielder, just starting to blossom, for Damaso Marte? I loved him when he was on the White Sox, but he’s not the same pitcher (I don’t care what NL stats he has).
Signing Cameron is a waste, even if they were to trade Melky in a deal for Santana. Cameron’s still got the glove, but he’s a mediocre hitter who strikes out way too much.
Still need emails from Buddy Biancala, Clay Bellenger, Boston Dave, Drive 4-5, Hughesian Bias, JDawg and Phil.
Again, anyone interested in the Yankees LoHud fantasy league please email me at rebecca@puristbleedspinstripes.com; I will keep a contact list going. Jen is in charge of the league.
Anyone hear the Cameron Rumor? Why would the Yankees want Cameron? WHYY?
dmburke11@yahoo.com
Thing about Cameron is this has been his 2nd time testing positive for a banned substance, 3rd time is what 50 games.
Rebecca & Jennifer-
All we need is Pete Abe to join the league. Think he will be interested?
uhh look at melky. he has a small and stumpy frame. hes not going to get any bigger or stronger. if he does then he is going to be fat.
“Why would you trade a starting centerfielder, just starting to blossom, for Damaso Marte? I loved him when he was on the White Sox, but he’s not the same pitcher (I don’t care what NL stats he has).”
Can you back up that opinion? Is there a scouting report that informs it? Has he lost velocity, control, bite on his breaking pitches?
Why trade Melky for pen help and sign Cameron? Well, between Jackson, Gardner and Tabata, there’s some depth at CF in the organization (yes, Tabata is probably ticketed for RF longterm but could likely play tolerable CF until he fills out). Cameron is a great defender that’s a fine bottom-of-the-order bat. For a year or two, he’d be fine. So…if they think Marte would be good fit, then it’d be worth it.
But, it looks like his walks have been pretty high for a couple years. That’s kind of worrying.
Hey I’d love to join the fantasy league if there’s still room. Only problem is too many folks who might over-value NYY a tad
Buddy: No idea, I imagine he might be a little busy for it…hah!
(but if you think he might be, shoot him an email)
Buddy: Lessee, I’m taking a look at pdf of MLB’s drug policy (circa 2005) http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloa.....m_2005.pdf
Assuming his case falls under section 9D, third offense would net a 1 year suspension or a fine of up to 100k
One would think the Yankees have had enough of players involved with steroids.
I didn’t realize that Marte is going to be 33 by Spring Training! I really like him, but wouldn’t give up Melky or top prospects. Great ERA this year, but previous 2 years were 3.70 and 3.77 in the NL.
“One would think the Yankees have had enough of players involved with steroids.”
Cameron got busted for amphetamines, not steroids.
To be technical about it; Cameron got busted for banned stimulants, if I remember right
yea right, i bet Pete’s committed to 5 fantasy baseball leagues already.
Have got nine emails so far, need twenty more for a thirty team league!
“Can you back up that opinion? Is there a scouting report that informs it? Has he lost velocity, control, bite on his breaking pitches?”
I’m basing it on what I’ve seen. He had a pretty good year last year, but I saw he struggled with the White Sox and how Guillen (though I think he’s certifiable) thought he wasn’t mentally tough. He didn’t pitch well in ‘06 either.
Rebecca, here’s my e-mail address.
Wait, try this one.
Thanks for the correction, whozat. Still, do the Yankees need that kind of headache?
JDawg: aye, can you shoot me an email? That way your email address is automatically in my contacts, as well as me knowing I’ve got the right one
It was actually amphetamines Cameron got suspended for, not steroids.
I’ll try that, this is really giving me problems tonight. Maybe I should come back and try again later after a nap!
J-Dawg: Heh, at this point in the night there’s not much napping
Rebecca- I posted a comment on your blog on the NFL picks thread. It has my e-mail, let me know if that works. Thanks!
it will be EXTREMELY interesting to see how much or how little Kennedy’s revelation gets in the media.
i’m going to say the story will be buried.
Signing Jason Lane is a worthy gamble,
Remember, out of his 26 homeruns in 2005, 14 were hit in the Houston sandbox.
How much is Lane getting paid?
Jdawg: Sent a confirmation email
Blargh,
Its very simple – Cash should make a trade! Use all of the massive number of righties in the minors to get something we need- a proven setup man that can come in for the eighth and take over for Mo just in case he gets injured at any point.
Trading proctor was a horrible move by the way – if he was still on the team, he would be our second most reliable reliever at the moment. And what is Betemit doing for us currently? Is a backup infielder all that crucial? And he isnt even good when he does play.
cameron’s going to miss 25 games because of his PED suspension and, i’m just spitballing here, but my guess is his productivity may not be up to snuff.
he’ll be fine, if they can spin melky in a decent deal, but let’s not pretend mike cameron is a huge upgrade. he’s a good defensive CF with a pretty good bat who, evidently, owes some of that to drugs.
Dave: Got any particular team in mind to trade with and for whom?
on top of the pete abe blog fantasy league and baseball day at yankee stadium, we should have a pete abe blog Texas Hold ‘em online poker tournament.
i’m only half joking.
blargh,
I can start rattling off names of good and decent relievers on small market clubs but that would be pointless. Cash has to go out and see which teams are willing to trade a quality reliever and what they want for them. Im sure many small market clubs will give up their better relief pitchers for some young, quality, starting pitchers in double and triple A – im thinking we can trade mcclutchen, horne, marquez, norton, kontos, battle, gardner and others depending on how good the reliever is. All of those guys are in double or triple A this yr and many can be in the majors by mid-season.
hughesian bias: Oh man, I can tell you such poker stories…
“And what is Betemit doing for us currently? Is a backup infielder all that crucial? And he isnt even good when he does play.”
how would his role look if A-Rod had left the team? thank God you can see the future. you should have told Cashman that A-Rod would stay.
clippard for albadejo was a good start but it wasnt enough. We need more trades like those and instead of albadejo, we need an eighth inning setup man from a small market club for young starters.
“Im sure many small market clubs will give up their better relief pitchers for some young, quality, starting pitchers in double and triple A ”
really? i am sure they won’t. why would they?
maybe Horne could net a decent reliever. none of those other guys could.
what team is going to trade one of their “better relievers” for Brett Gardner??
Just say no to cheaters like Mike Cameron.
hmmmm,
If betemit started for third base on a club with a 200 million dollar payroll, i would have been absolutely shocked. I dont think betemit would have started no matter what. And the reason cash traded away proctor is because he could see in his crystal ball that arod was opting out and wilson was his able replacement. I doubt that. Proctor was far more valuable to us than betemit will ever be – that is pretty obvious. You cant argue with that. This club desparately needs bullpen help!
“Just say no to cheaters like Mike Cameron.”
not to mention cheaters like Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Hank Aaron and all of the other players who used greenies.
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I meant a package of Horne and gardner or marquez and norton or all four depending on how good the relief pitcher was. Small market clubs love young cheap starters – teams like the nationals, marlins, royals would trade their better relievers for good, cheap starters. Just like clippard for albadejo. If we trade a better package than clippard, we will get a better reliever than albadejo with more innings under their belt.
Okay, right now thirteen fantasy participants…almost halfway there! This is going to be awesome!
all of my poker stories involve me losing $10-$20. i’m sure yours are better.
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You should join the Fantasy baseball league we are starting, if you are interested send an email to Rebecca.
“Just like clippard for albadejo. If we trade a better package than clippard, we will get a better reliever than albadejo with more innings under their belt.”
maybe. i just don’t think those guys aside from Horne and maybe Marquez have a lot of trade value quite yet.
and i am not sure i would want to trade Horne for a reliever.
i agree with you in principle, that the yankees should use some of that surplus to trade, but i am not sure how many teams are willing to part with quality relievers these days.
hughesian bias:
You know the scene in Ocean’s Eleven at the beginning where there’s the poker game and the one guy goes ‘ALL REDS!’ ?
Well, freshman year at ‘Cuse, my friend got a poker set for his birthday. So a bunch of us are playing, and I completley forget that a flush is all the same suit, not the same color.
So I go and bet my chips, and go more or less all in.
And I say “All Reds”. It wasn’t a prank, I honestly thought I had a flush.
The kicker?
I had just referenced the scene in Ocean’s Eleven.
“And the reason cash traded away proctor is because he could see in his crystal ball that arod was opting out and wilson was his able replacement. ”
come on, i am not saying that. i am saying Cashman was preparing for the worst. if A-Rod leaves, without Betemit they would have been desperate in any trading situation. it was insurance. he was being proactive.
“Proctor was far more valuable to us than betemit will ever be – that is pretty obvious. You cant argue with that. ”
actually i can. because we don’t know that yet. Proctor is 31 with a ton of innings on his arm over the last 2 years. his numbers were trending downward pretty fast last year. walks were up, K’s were down, HRs were up. we’ll see if Betemit outperforms Proctor over the next 3 seasons. i wouldn’t be surprised at all if he did.
Before any hearings, maybe the Committee on Government Oversight can oversight the government? Why not get all the evidence from Novitsky (IRS Agent) and Parella (Asst. US Attorney) — both of whom are part of the government — first? And if Novitsky and Parella are deferring to Congress now, why are they tampering with witness McNamee and meeting with him now?
And while were at it, why we don’t we depose Mitchell and his team of crack investigators? Why not get all of their tapes and documents?
That is where Congress should start! But they won’t.
Nite.
HAHAHAH woww that sucks. see i’ve never done anything THAT bad. i played online when i was first learning the rules, but when i finally played w/ real people for the first time, i was so nervous cause i didnt have any buttons to hit. the games so much easier when you can play online and hit the “call” “fold” or “make a bet” options. and i was a horrible dealer.
Yeah, they never let me deal, but they had a good reason for it!
Hey! Who killed the thread?
Who dya think?
We’re halfway to our goal of 30 for the LoHud fantasy league.
I’ll send a general email out to those who have “signed up” before I go to sleep tonight
“I meant a package of Horne and gardner or marquez and norton or all four depending on how good the relief pitcher was.”
Do you realize how ridiculous this statement is? You think the Yankees should trade 3 of their top 10 prospects for a reliever? I can’t imagine why you haven’t been given a GM job as of yet.
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You in for Fantasy baseball Pete Abe style?
“He is a .250 8 hr 50 rbi player w/ strong arm. PLEASE GET CAMERON”
For Cameron’s career he is a .251/.341/.445 player and he is 35 years old. He isn’t getting any better. But yes the Yankees should trade Melky and sign him for 2 years @ 10 Mil a year. That would make absolute sense.
If I count correctly, we’re up to 15. Keep it going! I think we can get to 30!
Buddy,
No thanks to anything with “Pete Abe”, “Fantasy”, and “Style” in it. j/k, Pete!
Seriously, I don’t even know the object of the game when it comes to fantasy leagues.
mel-
Lol! You have had some good zingers lately. Fantasy baseball is easy, you draft players & based on how well they do (offensive stats) your team accumulates points. Most leagues are 5 X 5 (5 Hitting stats- HRs, RBIs Runs, SBs, Batting Avg. & 5 Pitching stats Wins, Losses, K’s WHIP, Saves)it’s really a lot of fun, there is trading & FA pickups/drops. Think about it.
yea i just played for the first time last season. you learn it real quick.
Melky for a middle reliever? That makes me extremely nervous. A 24 year old with a golden arm in CF traded for a middle reliever who could crap the bed at any moment. Then replace that CFer with a 35 year old on a PED suspension while you prepare to hand the job over to a guy with only a couple of at-bats past single-A. That doesn’t sound like good thinking to me whatsoever.
Do they give Jason Lane’s Durazo’s AAA locker as the “washed up veteran passing through?”
“For Cameron’s career he is a .251/.341/.445 player and he is 35 years old. He isn’t getting any better. But yes the Yankees should trade Melky and sign him for 2 years @ 10 Mil a year. That would make absolute sense.”
Cameron has never made more than $7M in a season, and there is exactly one other team interested in him (the Brewers). It would be more like 2 years at less than $10M total.
Whether they should trade Cabrera has to have at least something to do with what they’d get for him, doesn’t it?
As for the earlier comment about Cameron being injury-prone, aside from slamming his face into Carlos Beltran at full speed back in 2005, he’s been pretty damned durable.
And I’ve gotta say I just don’t get all the Andy Phillips love — the guy is basically Jason Lane without the ability to play the outfield. Besides, if Phillips had accepted being outrighted to the minors, he’d still be with the organization. After refusing the Yanks minor league offer, he turned around and signed a minor league contract with Cincinnati. Maybe he thought someone would offer him a guaranteed major league contract, or maybe he just thought he should go to an organization where he might have a better shot at more playing time.
Mike Cameron is a better hitter than Melky Cabrera, end of story. He’s still probably a better feilder as well. So if you can upgrade CF with Cameron until AJax is ready, and upgrade the team’s biggest weekness (the bullpen) by trading Melky, you do it in a heartbeat.
You have to be creative if you want the bullpen to be improved.
The Red Sox juicers were Bill Mueller and Gabe Kapler.But it may not have been steriods.
Bobby Kielty, remains available, is twice the player as Lane, can play all three OF positions and a little 1B. And bat RH. This is such a perfect fit, there’s got to be something else I am missing. Why Lane when there is Kielty?
Kielty’s 2007 was actually worse than Lane’s. It’s close, but you gotta give the edge to Lane on playing time (/jk).
Despite his complete inability to stay healthy for a full season, Kielty has attracted interest from several teams, and will probably get a guaranteed contract for a couple million bucks from somebody. That’s not a lot of money, but it is a roster spot. Lane doesn’t need to be put on the 40-man unless he makes the major league club in ST.