No harm with the minor league deal but i would have rather seen them sign an infielder like Marcus Giles (he signed a minor league deal as well). But I’m certainly fine with signing a guy like Lane to a no risk deal… they used guys like Kevin Thompson… and may need a guy like Lane for short periods (though hopefully not)
hate to sound like a broken record, but every time 1B comes up i cant believe they let andy phillips go. he was the most known quantity there, steady but unspectacular, fine defense, now we have a gimp (giambi) and two guys who may really hurt them (bettamit and duncan). cant say i trust any of the 3. i hope cash has something better in the works.
Lane is a cheap option and maybe, just maybe, he can show enough in Spring Training to make the team and be a key reserve at one of the outfield positions or he could see some time at first base. The opportunity to be on the Yankee roster probably will serve as terrific motivation for Lane. Maybe it will inspire him to regain his ’05 form. Let’s just see how everything plays out.
Rosenthal, who might or might know that about which he’s talking, says the Yanks are after Mike Cameron. [source] He misses the first 25 games because of his drug abuse, but then Rosenthal talks about Cameron in center and Johnny in left. Melky’s then as good as gone, though I suppose we hang on to Matsui to DH when Giambi inevitably gets hurt.
i know but i saw phillips as being worth more than ‘a body’ in the bullpen, even if he throws hard. farnsworth throws hard, proctor threw hard, and together with bruney, they made up a completly unreliable bullpen last year.
a minor league contract for an extra bat and defense? sounds good to me. low cost, low risk, gives lane a chance to up his value before he hits mid 30s and sticks around in AAA for the rest of his career.
giambi cannot play half the year at 1b, shelley duncan is a question mark. never hurts to have extra help for low cost.
hearing the Melky Cabrera could be replaced by Cameron is not good news to me. I had really counted on if there was no Santana deal, then I didn’t have to think about Melky being gone. I know he’s not an all-star, but I like him. It’s nice to have happy positive energy on a team. Cameron misses time for the drugs, plus, isn’t he injury prone? I sure hope this is just another unfounded, which Yankee outfielder can we ship out this week kind of rumor.
I think the first base situation will work itself out. The bullpen, on the other hand is a real problem.
On the Yankee’s Hot Stove show tonight Cashman named Kyle Farnsworth as the first 8th inning option. Unless 3 or 4 pitchers emerge, the Yanks could have as bad a bullpen as any contending team in the American League.
As the bullpen is currently constructed,there is no one that either get lefties out on a consistent basis (or anyone else for that matter) or set up for Mariano.
Speaking of the Yanks Hot Stove Show,they need to find someone else besides George King. When you’re on television, you need to project. He was a fish out of water and was saved by Jack Curry numerous times.
Good Lord. Upgrading from Melky to Cameron would be awesome. We’d get a better bet and probably a better defensive CFer. By the time AJax is ready, Cameron’s deal would be over. On top of that, if Melky could bring back Marte as someone else noted, that would be a HUGE upgrade in the bullpen.
NEW YORK — The lawyer who led baseball’s investigation of Pete Rose said George Mitchell’s failure to release most of the evidence from his probe on doping in baseball undermined the credibility of the report.
Mitchell refused a request from The Associated Press to make public more than 50 documents referenced in footnotes. The former Senate majority leader also has not released notes from his interviews with witnesses who implicated Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Miguel Tejada and others in the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
“That’s ridiculous,” chief Rose investigator John Dowd said Thursday. “That surprises me. I’m sorry to hear that.”
When Dowd’s 225-page report on Rose’s betting was made public in 1989, 84 exhibits accompanied it, including transcripts of interviews with the Cincinnati Reds manager and his associates. The report and the exhibits remain readily available at http://www.DowdReport.com.
George King has no idea how many Post readers he must have lost through his stick-in-the-mud appearance on YES.
No doubt his editors must be driven to Bellevue trying to patch up his columns before going to press.
Please Peter, find a way to get on the YES Hot Stove segment so we can forget George King ever appeared.
I really think Melky and a minor league pitcher would be good enough to get Damaso Marte, as has been mentioned.
I like a Cameron signing for CF on a 2 year deal. He strikes out a little too much for my complete endorsement, but he still covers a ton of ground in CF, and adds some legitimate RH pop and balance at the bottom of the order. I see it as a very similar sort of short-term veteran deal to build a bridge to the young prospects now developing as the one they signed Mike Mussina to after 2006.
To me, the Cubs, Reds, and Royals dont make much sense for Melky as Rosenthal states… but he would make perfect sense in Milwaukee or Atlanta, though i admit i’m not exactly sure what players those teams have the Yankees could make use of…
Money leagues get too complicated, though I would be into a money league. The top 3 should win a prize though, maybe a Joba T shirt or winners choice. Everyone could put in like $10, so is doesn’t break the bank. 30 teams would be insanely competitive, most I have been in is 14 team leagues.
30 teams seems like a lot, though. are there even 30 people here willing to play? i might be able to bring in a friend, but do we want this to be a strictly Pete Abe Blog Fantasy League? Can anyone join?
also, to go back to the melky trade possibility, does this mean that hughes might go too? or is hughes off the table for a santana trade at this point? i hope so cause when i draft him for my fantasy team, i want him to be yankee not a twin.
While you guys are piling up emails for Fantasy purposes, I think we should have a LoHud day at the stadium. Everyone buy up tickets for one game. All the Yankees bloggers [able to attend] in one place might create an internet black hole.
oh ya to people making fun of me for saying the yankees should get santana. do you think kennedy, hughes, and chamberlain wont make rookie mistakes? its going to take a couple of years before they mature into real pitchers. so ya get ready for two consecutive second place seasons! EXCITING! AN OLDER JETER, AROD, POSADA, MO, WOOOHOOO!
I really think Melky and a minor league pitcher would be good enough to get Damaso Marte, as has been mentioned.
I love the idea of getting Marte, but don’t really like that proposal much.
Better: Tabata+Horne+Marquez+S. Duncan+ for Gorzellany+Marte+Nady.
Good deal for both teams. Marte+Nady have been on the block. Gorzellany’s due a big raise soon. All of those Yanks would have starting positions with the Pirates. Duncan would replace Nady at a fraction of the cost. Horne+Marquez could both step into their rotation. Tabata gives the Bucs a ++OF prospect. Gorzellany would be a great back-end of the rotation guy for the Yanks and a second lefty in the rotation. Marte would be a huge boost to the bullpen. Nady plays a decent 1B, has pretty good RH power, is already too expensive for the Bucs.
ooo Lane, Albadejo and Hawkins! Now we are a sure thing to win it all! Forget about filling first base with some more garbage options. Cash has to concentrate on improving the depleted pen. Mo is on the wrong side of 35 and farnsworth is going nowhere but down hill in the AL. Everyone else is a bunch of no-namers and has-beens. We are banking on another Joba coming through the system and saving us out of the pen by mid-season. Not something you want to bank on exactly. And Horne doesnt look so great to me – i dont think he is the next joba, i dont even think he is the next proctor.
Let’s see, a few of those guys who are no longer on the team include Derek Lowe, Orlando Cabrera, Minky, Dave Roberts (not a friend of ours by any means), Kapler, Nixon, Keith Foulke, and Bill Mueller, to name a few.
nobody cares that you want santanta
you called the entire yankees major league roster crap
you called cashman and idiot.
you think you deserve any respect for any other opinions you have?
It’s hard for people to admit that Santana is the best pitcher out there and overrated prospects(Melky,Marquez,Mitgross).This season is gonna be like last season.A bunch of young pitchere only going 5 to 6 innings.
your prediction sounds pretty dumb. out of all three of those, joba’s the least likely to get sent down. don’t you think he’d stay in the bullpen if he bombed his starts? he’s already proven he could play at the MLB level.
Itâ€™s hard for people to admit that Santana is the best pitcher out there and we can get him for a good prospect (Huges)and overrated prospects(Melky,Marquez,Mitgross).This season is gonna be like last season.A bunch of young pitchere only going 5 to 6 innings.
He is a .250 8 hr 50 rbi player w/ strong arm. PLEASE GET CAMERON!
2 yr Melky Career:
15 Hrs/123 RBI (in 280 gms) .275 .340 .388 .728
Yeah, I guess since these were Melky’s first 2 years (age 21 and 22), as he gets older, stronger and more experienced, we can expect his BA to drop 25 pts and his HRs to stay the same.
Do people really need to grossly exaggerate to try and make their point?
“Why would you trade a starting centerfielder, just starting to blossom, for Damaso Marte? I loved him when he was on the White Sox, but heâ€™s not the same pitcher (I donâ€™t care what NL stats he has).”
Can you back up that opinion? Is there a scouting report that informs it? Has he lost velocity, control, bite on his breaking pitches?
Why trade Melky for pen help and sign Cameron? Well, between Jackson, Gardner and Tabata, there’s some depth at CF in the organization (yes, Tabata is probably ticketed for RF longterm but could likely play tolerable CF until he fills out). Cameron is a great defender that’s a fine bottom-of-the-order bat. For a year or two, he’d be fine. So…if they think Marte would be good fit, then it’d be worth it.
But, it looks like his walks have been pretty high for a couple years. That’s kind of worrying.
I didn’t realize that Marte is going to be 33 by Spring Training! I really like him, but wouldn’t give up Melky or top prospects. Great ERA this year, but previous 2 years were 3.70 and 3.77 in the NL.
“Can you back up that opinion? Is there a scouting report that informs it? Has he lost velocity, control, bite on his breaking pitches?”
I’m basing it on what I’ve seen. He had a pretty good year last year, but I saw he struggled with the White Sox and how Guillen (though I think he’s certifiable) thought he wasn’t mentally tough. He didn’t pitch well in ’06 either.
Its very simple – Cash should make a trade! Use all of the massive number of righties in the minors to get something we need- a proven setup man that can come in for the eighth and take over for Mo just in case he gets injured at any point.
Trading proctor was a horrible move by the way – if he was still on the team, he would be our second most reliable reliever at the moment. And what is Betemit doing for us currently? Is a backup infielder all that crucial? And he isnt even good when he does play.
cameron’s going to miss 25 games because of his PED suspension and, i’m just spitballing here, but my guess is his productivity may not be up to snuff.
he’ll be fine, if they can spin melky in a decent deal, but let’s not pretend mike cameron is a huge upgrade. he’s a good defensive CF with a pretty good bat who, evidently, owes some of that to drugs.
I can start rattling off names of good and decent relievers on small market clubs but that would be pointless. Cash has to go out and see which teams are willing to trade a quality reliever and what they want for them. Im sure many small market clubs will give up their better relief pitchers for some young, quality, starting pitchers in double and triple A – im thinking we can trade mcclutchen, horne, marquez, norton, kontos, battle, gardner and others depending on how good the reliever is. All of those guys are in double or triple A this yr and many can be in the majors by mid-season.
If betemit started for third base on a club with a 200 million dollar payroll, i would have been absolutely shocked. I dont think betemit would have started no matter what. And the reason cash traded away proctor is because he could see in his crystal ball that arod was opting out and wilson was his able replacement. I doubt that. Proctor was far more valuable to us than betemit will ever be – that is pretty obvious. You cant argue with that. This club desparately needs bullpen help!
I meant a package of Horne and gardner or marquez and norton or all four depending on how good the relief pitcher was. Small market clubs love young cheap starters – teams like the nationals, marlins, royals would trade their better relievers for good, cheap starters. Just like clippard for albadejo. If we trade a better package than clippard, we will get a better reliever than albadejo with more innings under their belt.
“And the reason cash traded away proctor is because he could see in his crystal ball that arod was opting out and wilson was his able replacement. ”
come on, i am not saying that. i am saying Cashman was preparing for the worst. if A-Rod leaves, without Betemit they would have been desperate in any trading situation. it was insurance. he was being proactive.
“Proctor was far more valuable to us than betemit will ever be – that is pretty obvious. You cant argue with that. ”
actually i can. because we don’t know that yet. Proctor is 31 with a ton of innings on his arm over the last 2 years. his numbers were trending downward pretty fast last year. walks were up, K’s were down, HRs were up. we’ll see if Betemit outperforms Proctor over the next 3 seasons. i wouldn’t be surprised at all if he did.
Before any hearings, maybe the Committee on Government Oversight can oversight the government? Why not get all the evidence from Novitsky (IRS Agent) and Parella (Asst. US Attorney) — both of whom are part of the government — first? And if Novitsky and Parella are deferring to Congress now, why are they tampering with witness McNamee and meeting with him now?
And while were at it, why we don’t we depose Mitchell and his team of crack investigators? Why not get all of their tapes and documents?
That is where Congress should start! But they won’t.
HAHAHAH woww that sucks. see i’ve never done anything THAT bad. i played online when i was first learning the rules, but when i finally played w/ real people for the first time, i was so nervous cause i didnt have any buttons to hit. the games so much easier when you can play online and hit the “call” “fold” or “make a bet” options. and i was a horrible dealer.
“He is a .250 8 hr 50 rbi player w/ strong arm. PLEASE GET CAMERON”
For Cameron’s career he is a .251/.341/.445 player and he is 35 years old. He isn’t getting any better. But yes the Yankees should trade Melky and sign him for 2 years @ 10 Mil a year. That would make absolute sense.
Lol! You have had some good zingers lately. Fantasy baseball is easy, you draft players & based on how well they do (offensive stats) your team accumulates points. Most leagues are 5 X 5 (5 Hitting stats- HRs, RBIs Runs, SBs, Batting Avg. & 5 Pitching stats Wins, Losses, K’s WHIP, Saves)it’s really a lot of fun, there is trading & FA pickups/drops. Think about it.
Melky for a middle reliever? That makes me extremely nervous. A 24 year old with a golden arm in CF traded for a middle reliever who could crap the bed at any moment. Then replace that CFer with a 35 year old on a PED suspension while you prepare to hand the job over to a guy with only a couple of at-bats past single-A. That doesn’t sound like good thinking to me whatsoever.
Do they give Jason Lane’s Durazo’s AAA locker as the “washed up veteran passing through?”
“For Cameronâ€™s career he is a .251/.341/.445 player and he is 35 years old. He isnâ€™t getting any better. But yes the Yankees should trade Melky and sign him for 2 years @ 10 Mil a year. That would make absolute sense.”
Cameron has never made more than $7M in a season, and there is exactly one other team interested in him (the Brewers). It would be more like 2 years at less than $10M total.
Whether they should trade Cabrera has to have at least something to do with what they’d get for him, doesn’t it?
As for the earlier comment about Cameron being injury-prone, aside from slamming his face into Carlos Beltran at full speed back in 2005, he’s been pretty damned durable.
And I’ve gotta say I just don’t get all the Andy Phillips love — the guy is basically Jason Lane without the ability to play the outfield. Besides, if Phillips had accepted being outrighted to the minors, he’d still be with the organization. After refusing the Yanks minor league offer, he turned around and signed a minor league contract with Cincinnati. Maybe he thought someone would offer him a guaranteed major league contract, or maybe he just thought he should go to an organization where he might have a better shot at more playing time.
Mike Cameron is a better hitter than Melky Cabrera, end of story. He’s still probably a better feilder as well. So if you can upgrade CF with Cameron until AJax is ready, and upgrade the team’s biggest weekness (the bullpen) by trading Melky, you do it in a heartbeat.
You have to be creative if you want the bullpen to be improved.
Bobby Kielty, remains available, is twice the player as Lane, can play all three OF positions and a little 1B. And bat RH. This is such a perfect fit, there’s got to be something else I am missing. Why Lane when there is Kielty?
Kielty’s 2007 was actually worse than Lane’s. It’s close, but you gotta give the edge to Lane on playing time (/jk).
Despite his complete inability to stay healthy for a full season, Kielty has attracted interest from several teams, and will probably get a guaranteed contract for a couple million bucks from somebody. That’s not a lot of money, but it is a roster spot. Lane doesn’t need to be put on the 40-man unless he makes the major league club in ST.