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Cameron signs with Milwaukee

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 11, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A day after it was rumored that the Yankees were interested in him, Mike Cameron has signed with the Milwaukee Brewers.

Imagine our shock, a free agent using a New York team to get the deal he wanted from another team.

There were reports that Alex Rodriguez wanted Cameron to join him with the Yankees. But while A-Rod may want a designated friend to replace Doug Mientkiewicz, the Yankees seem content with Melky Cabrera in center field.

Meanwhile, the blog had one of our operatives in Tampa today and he reports Phil Hughes, Humberto Sanchez, Andrew Brackman and Jeff Karstens were working out under the supervision of new pitching coach Dave Eiland.

Joba Chamberlain is also due in town. Nice to see so many of the young guys getting a head start. Sanchez and Brackman are coming off Tommy John surgery. Sanchez will be able to pitch at some point this season but Brackman not until 2009.

Said our operative, “Brackman looked like Manute Bol out there.”

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Clear skies and mild temperatures are expected in bucolic Foxboro, Mass., tomorrow night. That’s good news as I will be in Section 131 with my brother-in-law Brian to see the mighty Patriots.

To repeat my picks for this weekend: Patriots 31, Jaguars 21; Packers 28, Seahawks 21; Giants 21, Cowboys 17; Colts 31, Chargers 14.

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412 Responses to “Cameron signs with Milwaukee”

  1. Boston Dave January 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    Pete,

    Like the picks. Have fun tomorrow.

  2. Phil January 11th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Pete, you’ll go four for four in your playoff picks this weekend.

  3. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    N-JOY the game PETE!
    LETS GO GIANTS! i’m looking for that rematch in Az.

  4. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    damn, everybody’s making the same picks as me, i must be WAY off.

  5. Jim PA January 11th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Have fun, Pete, and go JINTS!

  6. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Great job by your operative. lol. Who’s Manute Bol?

  7. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    i miss bernie,

    lol. how do people pick the scores. is it random?

  8. Anthony January 11th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    yeah the scores are random

  9. Clay Bellinger January 11th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Manute Bol was a 7’7 center in the NBA in the eighties.

  10. Steve January 11th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Pete, since you are a Pats fan, maybe you can answer this, has Brady ever had a horrible game, ala Eli Manning against the Panthers in the 2005 playoffs? I was just curious because I dont ever remember Brady having a terrible game. You have to figure it will happen eventually.

  11. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    mel
    its very scientific. i lay out all the likely scores and whichever ones my consultant’s paw lands on is the one i go with. but this is only because i lost the thingy you use on the ouigy board.

  12. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Clay,

    Thnx. I remember Brackman being a long dude, Johnson-like. (no pun intended).

    i miss bernie,

    lol. those Chinese calligraphy cats from PBS come to mind.

  13. Bronx Liaison January 11th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    I can’t wait to see what Brackman can do in pro ball. I have a feeling his first action in ’09 will see him boasting an obscene k/9 against minor league hitters, but I also think his b/9 will very high.

    Maybe Eiland can tell Humberto to put down the ham sandwiches and copy a little bit of Melancon’s work ethic. I know it can’t be taught to be driven, but it can be encouraged.

  14. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    mel-

    Is your real name Sarah Silverman?

  15. Florida Yank January 11th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Expect the Captain and his best buddy Jorge to join the others in early workouts at the minor league complex. They live in Tampa so it’s good and convenient for them.
    If Sanchez and Brackman do any throwing it will be light and on flat ground.
    Karstens seems like a man on a mission. He’s looking to lock up a long relief / spot starter role.
    35 days and counting …..

  16. Drive 4-5 January 11th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    FINALLY!! Some news about baseball players appearing on a ball field rather than a hearing!

    I can’t wait for my wife & I to head south in March for some baseball and golf. I managed to get tix for March 12 at Al Lang vs the Rays, March 13 vs the Pirates and March 16 vs the Indians at Legend’s Field.Play ball!!!

  17. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    go karstens, thats my boy! if he comes up big the yanks win the div.!

  18. Casey from Oakland January 11th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    LOVE the Giants over the Cryboys!!!! Great pick Pete

  19. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Buddy,

    Thanks for the compliment. I think. She’s actually much more palatable than Sandra Bernhard and I loved her Britney Spears comments at the MVA.

  20. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Sarah–I mean mel-

    It is a compliment, ever catch her show on Comedy Central?

  21. ThatWasMe January 11th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Ants go down in flames in Dallas, Eli spends the afternoon running for his life.

  22. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Wasn’t Sanchez throwing off flat ground during the season?

    And if you guys don’t shut up about going to Yankee ST games, I’m going to start talking about 75º weather and 20 foot surf!!!!

  23. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    i HATE people in San Diego!
    its just not fair!

  24. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    i miss bernie,

    I live somewhere that’s even better!

  25. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    o i thought u were the 1 from SD, one of the posters is from there. im afraid to ask….

  26. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    You live in Philly right? Hint: Shane Victorino.

  27. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Don’t say you live in Hawaii?

  28. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    I guess you do, which Island? I got married on the Big Island.

  29. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    o my! the flyin hawaiian! he’s Great! and im jelous…say hi to tiger for me! (im a phil guy)

  30. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Don’t want to be specific, but it’s somewhere in the Pacific. lol.

  31. the G-Men reign January 11th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Monday’s headine in the Dallas Morning News …

    JESSICA SIMPSON DUMPS ROMO – calls him a loser.

  32. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    Ok, answer this, did you get to see the surfing championships last month at North Shore?

  33. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    That must’ve been nice, Buddy.

    i miss bernie,

    Tiger doesn’t show up too often, but I don’t hold it against him. How can we get Phil to start wearing a man-bra? :)

  34. mel January 11th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Heard about it on the coconut wireless.

  35. peyton who? January 11th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    LETS GO GIANTS!!!

  36. chuck January 11th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    Regardless of picks, all non-pats fan has to be rooting for the huge Jags upset… enjoy the game pete… Hoping you go home unhappy with the results.

  37. peyton who? January 11th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    tiger and phil usually show up for the mercedes, is that this week or next?

  38. BBB January 11th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    GO GIANTS!!!!!!!!!! Hope you are right Pete! I also like the Seahawks’ chances for an upset, I think too many people sleep on them…

  39. mel January 11th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    peyton,

    They have a tourney for the 4 major winners every year. Even though Tiger’s in the field every year, he bows out more often than not.

  40. Doreen January 11th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Don’t want to kill this thread, but I just read Marion Jones was sentenced to serve a 6-month prison sentence (the max) for using steroids and for lying about her knowledge of a check scam. She pleaded for a lighter sentence because she has a young child who is still nursing, but it looks like the sentence wil begin in March.

    Roger better be telling the truth.

  41. mel January 11th, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    peyton,

    Tiger’s the Roger Clemens of golf. He plays a shortened season.

  42. YankeeDiva January 11th, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    But while A-Rod may want a designated friend to replace Doug Mientkiewicz, the Yankees seem content with Melky Cabrera in center field.

    How much was A-Rod lobbying for Cameron? Just asking because I thought Alex was good frineds with Melky as well.

    Nice to see so many of the young guys getting a head start.

    I agree…only about a month til spring training :)

  43. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    oj is back in jail (bail violation for his armed robbery charge). he is becoming like elvis before he died, such a joke that nobody can remember when anybody thought he was good.
    but i remember because he was my 1st favorite football player, damn, he was GREAT!

    i bring this up b/c im sure there are alot of people who’s favorite baseball player was pete rose or roger clemens pete was already in the slammer and roger may be on his way. i hope not but it’s possible.

  44. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    YankeeDiva-

    They must be really god friends b/c I read somewhere on this blog how A Rod was paying for a trainer to work with Cano & Melky.

  45. mel January 11th, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    Doreen,

    Another sad story is American skater/actor Christopher Bowman od’ed in a motel in Cali.

  46. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    *good*

  47. ThatWasMe January 11th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    Marion Jones, what a very sad story,so gifted, no reason to cheat. I’ve followed her career since she was a high school prodigy. She made some poor choices, and the two I can think of are her two husbands, shotputter C.J. Hunter and sprinter Tim Montgomery both also steroid cheats.

  48. ThatWasMe January 11th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    From the pictures I’ve seen of O.J. lately I’m thinking he likes the jailhouse food.

  49. ThatWasMe January 11th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    Yankee Diva, you can tell that Cano and Melky idolize Arod. Part of what makes this team click is the enthusiasm provided by these young players, why would you get rid of Melky for Mr. sour puss Mike Cameron? The rumors did not make sense to me make sense to me.

  50. Bronx Liaison January 11th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    I actually talked to Karstens a few times when I covered games at Trenton during Jeff’s rehab starts. He was one of the coolest guys I came across. Very softspoken, very down to earth and would talk about his team before thinking about himself. I remember I had parked near his car. I had the Honda Civic and he drove a pimped out SUV if I remember correctly.

  51. mel January 11th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    Small article on Gossage in the Times.

    He’s going in with a Yankee cap, the 25th to do so. That’s most out of all the clubs, but it seems like a small number. Oh, yeah. The kicker is that Goose said there’s a chance he would’ve used PED’s to help his own career. But he said the best thing is to come clean. He railed on Roger, and now he’s giving “advice”!

  52. Don Vito January 11th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Pete…you have one of the four palyoff winners right. Mark my words.

  53. Noname January 11th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    Does this picture look like a “sour puss” to you?

    http://www.dallasnews.com/shar.....8rang2.jpg

    He was always delightfully friendly and had the widest grin I’ve ever seen when he played for the Mariners.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....nlaugh.jpg

  54. Don Vito January 11th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    playoff – sp (sorry)

  55. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    holy crap, they’ve changed the name of jacobs field. i heard the new name, but i refuse to use it here. im done with stadiums changing names. if u want to call it fordchevamchyswagon field when u build it, thats fine but im not using whatever name you decide to change it to.

  56. GRRRRRRRRR January 11th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Goose was a good pitcher, though I still don’t think he is HOF material, but he suffers from constipation of thought, diarrhea of words.

    There are others in the Hall who played for the Yankees but are in under different caps as well. The Yankees are well represented in the Hall.

  57. GRRRRRRRRR January 11th, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Maybe Cleveland thinks that the name change is going to bring more “positive” results. :roll:

  58. GRRRRRRRRR January 11th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    I will laugh if the Patriots get hammered by the Jaguars. The Jaguars are playing pretty well right now.

  59. dan l January 11th, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    With respect to Karstens does it look like he gained weight? With Sanchez does he look in shape?

  60. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    i hope the yankees sweep the astros when they play at enron field this season!

    thats what you get for having a corporate name!

  61. mel January 11th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    Wha?! What happened to Minute Maid? (side note: that choo-choo train is the cutest thing)

  62. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Wha?! What happened to Minute Maid?

    Yeah, but that random hillock in center field is bizarre

  63. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    mel it was enron (locally called ten-run) field when it was built then changed for obvious reasons.

  64. Doreen January 11th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    That’s too bad about Cleveland. The “Jake” was such a cool nickname.

  65. mel January 11th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    bernie,

    gotcha.

    whozat,

    I love that hill. It’s like putt-putt golf. I saw Willy Taveras make a nifty play on it. He knew how to play that hill like Manny plays the Green Monster. lol.

  66. GreenBeret7 January 11th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Whozat, the hill in center field was made to simulate the hill in left field in the old Crosley Field in Cincinatti. It was something that Tal Smith asked for. He’s got a family connection to the old Reds I believe. The flag pole in center was the old Yankee Stadium and Tiger Stadium.

  67. Mike S. January 11th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Whozat:

    You should’ve seen the terrace at Crosley Field.

  68. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    That’s too bad about Cleveland. The “Jake” was such a cool nickname.

    it’s a cool park. I was there this september when they clinched the division. It was pretty cool :-)

    I was in with a whole bunch of season ticket holders that all knew each other, so they kind of took me under their wing a little. Nice folks.

  69. Mike S. January 11th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    We have our own nicknames for Cleveland. The “Swamp” or the “Swarm” come to mind.

    Damn midges.

  70. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    baker bowl, here in philly had a real hill the outfield from right center to left center was upsloped, (from about 200′ out to the wall) to accomidate train tracks that ran under it.

  71. BBB January 11th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    lol, Progressive Field? Is this supposed to be a political statement of some kind? When can we expect Howard Dean Bobblehead Night to take place??

    Cleveland is an epic failure at naming stadiums. I don’t know what is worse, this, or Quicken Loans Arena which makes it sound like some shady character with greasy hair and a leisure suit will be lurking in the parking lot with a crowbar waiting for you after the game!

  72. Doreen January 11th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Whozat

    That must have been great! Were you there on midge night?

  73. Doreen January 11th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    whozat –

    Sorry I misread the post. I’m multitasking – or trying to! :lol:

  74. Mike S. January 11th, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Baker Bowl was at the corner of Broad and Lehigh, six blocks from Shibe Park (aka Connie Mack Stadium) which was at 21st and Lehigh.

    Baker Bowl’s RF was a joke. The train tracks underneath were the Reading RR, I believe.

    If I remember correctly, the Dodgers and Red Sox will play a game in the LA Coliseum (an exhibition game) in honor of the 50th anniv. of the move to LA. LF at the Coliseum (where the Dodgers played from 1958-1961 was a joke. For good diagrams of the Baker Bowl and the LA Coliseum, go here and pick them out (and other stadiums, too):

    http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/

  75. Doreen January 11th, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Progressive is an Insurance company with its roots in Cleveland.

  76. Larry January 11th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Pats are going down this weekend!

  77. Larry January 11th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Midges are no joke.

    Oregon has a particularly nasty problem with them in the summer. About 2 or 3 weeks out of the year they swarm my family’s property.

    Nasty little cretins.

  78. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    mike,
    thanks for the link, i actually went to the sites of baker bowl and shibe on monday (just moved to philly) there are good b/w pics on wickipedia and its kind of hard but you can see the upslope. also note the 63′ right field fence (the “monster” is 37″)

  79. Mike S. January 11th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Yeah, the site where Connie Mack was is now a parking lot for a church.

  80. Mike S. January 11th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    Shibe/Connie Mack of course, had the “spite fence.”

  81. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    i had it wrong the tracks ran from left to center but you can see the hill. the LF and CF must have positioned themselves on the hill and had to run uphill for anything hit behind them!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Bowl

  82. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    judging by the picture, the church would be right on the playing field, the park kind of surrounded the entire block. get a load of the cf fence 447′ out!

  83. mel January 11th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    I thought that “Izod Center” was a joke. I can’t believe it. At least call it Lacosté Center.

  84. ye olde timer January 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Those “Chinese home runs” at the Polo Grounds were a treat. Imagine 257 feet down the right field foul pole.

    Happy Felton and the Knot Hole Gang at Ebbets field. The Abe Stark clothing store sign, “Hit the sign – win a suit”.

    The constant subway trains seen going by in center field at old Yankee Stadium loaded with graffiti.

  85. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    so now its become the meadowlands, brendan byrne, continental, izod arena center! take that liz taylor!

  86. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    hey old timer, several of us were telling about our 1st games, mine was YS, 1964, stottlemyre on the mound, they beat the senators.

  87. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 11th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I miss bernie,

    Here is the link I told you about.
    http://www.ballparks.phanfare.com

  88. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    jennifer, thank you!

  89. JonMichel January 11th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Anybody know if Girardi was there along with Eiland.

  90. Mike S. January 11th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Great link, Jennifer. And to think, soon people will be going to that website to see shots of old Yankee Stadium to see what it was like 1923-1973, and then 1976-2008.

    Time to cue Sinatra, only not New York, New York but…

    “There used to be a ballpark….

    ……..right here……”

    Great song.

  91. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    i have to say my trip to shibe and the baker bowl was VERY depressing. the neighborhood has deteriorated even more since most of those pics were taken. my g/f about died when i told her where i had been, right in the middle of north philly, not even close enough to Temple U to have any economic life. the car wash and gas station on the site of the old baker bowl are still there, gas station boared up but the car wash still operating. it was great to see the pic of the neighborhood in the 20′s, though.

  92. Drew January 11th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Wow, now you have operatives :D

    I for one am glad Cameron signed elsewhere.

  93. Doreen January 11th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    Jennifer

    Thanks for that link. I bookmarked the site to spend more time there. Great pictures but also great information.

  94. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    mike, did i miss something, i dont see any pic of old Yankee Stadium in there (or shea in its original skin with the wavy blue and orange sheet metal exterior.

  95. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 11th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    No problem, my friend emailed the link to me. Her friend is the one who took all the pictures.

  96. Doreen January 11th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    News:
    Major League Baseball launched a department of investigations Friday, a permanent branch of the commissioner’s office responsible for looking into drug use in the sport.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3192208

  97. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 11th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Hey everyone

    Shopping takes a lot out of you. Especially now given the gaping hole in my wallet. oops.

    Glad Cameron signed with Milwaukee. we’re stacked in the OF as is. We need a bullpen.

  98. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    here’s a good place to find some YS pics:
    http://www.nytstore.com/ProdIn.....8;prodId=0

    theres a pic in there of bat day 1968. my dad, brother and i were there, we went most years on bat day. my brother got a mickey mantle, i got a tom tresh….

  99. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 11th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    I went crazy at Banana Republic last weekend. I think I need to go back to look again!

  100. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 11th, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Was H+M for me!

  101. Majambo January 11th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Pete
    Still don’t know how you can root for a team from Boston. Majambo feels ill.

  102. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 11th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Pete is from Boston.

  103. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    “Glad Cameron signed with Milwaukee. we’re stacked in the OF as is. We need a bullpen.”

    If other teams value Melky at all, he could have been a good piece to bring back pen help, and Cameron would have provided plus D in the OF as well as a solid bottom-of-the-order bat as a stop-gap until either Jackson/Tabata develop or a real CFer can be acquired in another way.

  104. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    whozat
    melky has more value to the yanks than other teams b/c most other teams have to depend on thier CF to be one of thier major power hitters, the yanks get more power from other positions, so melky is fine for them. he’s not likely to bring bullpen help b/c that is now becoming one of the most valuable commodities. so melky in cf works out great for the yanks.
    also, i subscribe to the theory (and obviously pete agrees) that the yanks had no interest or contact regarding cameron and the rumor was just cam’s agent trying to get a better deal from the brewers, where he intended to sign all along.

  105. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    “b/c most other teams have to depend on thier CF to be one of thier major power hitters”

    ?????

    CF is NOT traditionally a big power production position. A guy who plays solid CF and hits for power is a star. A guy who hits for average too is a superstar.

  106. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    Good Evening To All

    Im gonna have to agree with whozat on this on this one.
    Cameron would have been a nice player for a yr or two until Action Jackson or Tababta would be ready.However I wouldnt deal Melky unless it was in the Santanna trade.

  107. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    To be clear, I’m not upset that Melky looks more and more like he’ll be the CFer next year, though I hope that he turns out to be closer to June-August Melky than to April-May/September Melky. And, I hope that he starts taking better routes to balls as he matures into the position.

  108. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    utility, hows little utility girl? 1st, there is no place for cameron on the roster unless you dealt melky 1st. and i just dont think melky’s gonna bring you any bp help of substance.

  109. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    forgot to add, what happens if, after cam comes back from his suspesion, he gets caught again? dont tell me ‘nobody would be that stupid’ cause thats what i keep saying about OJ.

  110. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    Utility Girl is doing fine so far…..Thanks for asking.
    We were going to adopt Miguel Cairo….but Thankfully he found a job for next season.

    Agreed I wouldnt trade Melky just for a reliever…But if he was going to the Twins for Santanna…then I would have liked a Mike Cameron as a replacement for 1-2 yrs.

  111. Al Cowlicks January 11th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    Hey, how about that Juice Simpson !! Salt of the earth.

    http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur35162.cfm

  112. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    i agree about cameron if the move melky for johan, but they couldnt sign him to a major league contract without moving somebody, and since they let andy phillips go that shows thier not gonna drop bruney, betamit or duncan to make room.

  113. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Evening all,

    On PTI tonight Bob (Red Sox Shill) Ryan said that the new Yankee stadium name would be Con Ed Stadium. I am pretty sure he was joking. If so it was pretty lame but any rumors out there on this?

  114. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    personally, i would have dropped bruney or betamit to keep phillips, who i think shoule have been thier 1B this season, but thats another story…

  115. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    yr57, i saw that but the yanks have said all along that it will be called yankee stadium.

  116. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    im bernie,

    Yeah I thought so, thanks.

  117. Fran January 11th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    I seem to remember someone in the front office saying they might name the plaza area around the new stadium with a corporate sponsor but that the stadium would be Yankee Stadium.

  118. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    like an oriole park at camden yards only more like chase plaza at yankee stadium maybe?

  119. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Thats a new one———Con Ed Stadium
    I think that was just a Joke by Mr Ryan.

    i miss bernie
    You are correct that the Yanks would have had to clear a roster spot if they had signed Cameron….but as each passing day gets closer and closer to Pitchers and Catchers,I feel the chances of the Yankees getting Johan are slimmer and slimmer.

  120. Dirk from Rockland January 11th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    I would have given Melky to Pit for Marte and minor leaguer if Cameron would have signed. We have enough OFers to last us a decade+ we could get a couple if needed via free agency.

  121. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Besides Florida Yank

    Did anyone get tickets today for ST Yankee Games???

  122. Fran January 11th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    I miss Bernie – exactly – like Yankee Stadium at Chase Plaza

  123. Dirk from Rockland January 11th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    I might still do it without Cameron.

  124. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    well, the twins are definitly going to move johan, the mets thing yesterday was a rumor dropped by the twins to prod the yankees (read murray chass today) so its not over its just in a holding pattern. something will give before ST starts.

  125. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Fran,

    Corporate sponsorship is really getting out of hand. I just started grad school and the classrooms and podiums at my college all have corporate sponsors. You can’t even get away from commercials in a classroom! I finished my undergrad degree 20 years ago so this is quite new to me.

    Is it like this everywhere? Anyone know when this started?

  126. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Utility man dad

    I got tickets for the 3/15 game with the Rays. Surprisingly good seats too.

  127. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    I would have given Melky to Pit for Marte and minor leaguer

    you’d probably have to send the prospect _to_ the pirates in that deal.

  128. Dirk from Rockland January 11th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Hal might think about getting corporate sponsors…. Isn’t he all about the money….. but it has to be like I miss bernie and Fran said……. Yankee Stadium at Chase Plaza.. It will always be Yankee Stadium

  129. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Any Thoughts on signing a Freddy Garcia to minor league deal with bonuses for later in the season…kinda like Jon Lieber deal a few yrs ago??
    I read I think in Sports Weekly that believe it or not…Carl Pavano might be ready in late June to pitch….yeah sure.

  130. Rocco January 11th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    So if the patriots lose, is that worse then what happened to the Yankees in 2004? I need something to rag my New England friends about.

  131. Drew January 11th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    “We need a bullpen.”

    If other teams value Melky at all, he could have been a good piece to bring back pen help, and Cameron would have provided plus D in the OF as well as a solid bottom-of-the-order bat as a stop-gap until either Jackson/Tabata develop or a real CFer can be acquired in another way.”

    At this point, Cameron is no better than Melky out there and strikes out way too much.

  132. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Yanksrule57
    Thats good….where abouts Ill seek ya out that day.

  133. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Rocco,

    I would equate it to the Mariners a few years ago who won 116 games and didn’t even make the World Series.

  134. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 11th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    We still need a bullpen. Albaladejo is something but not nearly enough.

  135. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Utility Man Dad,

    Section 216 row O. Where do you sit?

  136. Rocco January 11th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    I guess the pats need to be up by like 3 TDs going into the 4th and end up losing in the AFC championship game. I can only hope. I’d rather them just lose tomorrow.

  137. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Yanksrule57

    Sec 102 Row HH

    Ill be there 2-29-08 to 3-5-08 and 3-15-2008 thru 3-22-2008

  138. Smadar January 11th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Everyone who said the Yankees should have traded Melky for Gonzalez were right. That likely is the highest Melky’s value ever will be. And even though he didn’t put up stellar offensive numbers, and sometimes he took bad routes to the ball, I liked Melky a lot better last year than I do now. Now he’s just an offensive liability who still takes strange routes to balls. He isn’t a clutch hitter or spark plug at all anymore either.

  139. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    At this point, Cameron is no better than Melky out there and strikes out way too much.

    He’s still a better defender than melky. He has better range. Melky’s good — and has a great arm — but Cameron is still near-elite.

    And who cares if he strikes out in the bottom of the order? He’s got a good bit more pop, which makes up for his lesser average. I think that, for the next year or two, Cameron would be just as good a fit for the Yanks. If Melky + cash/a prospect could bring back Marte or something, that’d have been something I’d have done in a heartbeat.

  140. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    “Everyone who said the Yankees should have traded Melky for Gonzalez were right”

    Gonzalez was bad and then had surgery.

  141. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Well, actually, his ERA was good, but his K’s were way down, and he had surgery after 17 innings.

  142. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Rivera
    Hawkins
    Albaladejo
    Karstens
    Farnsworth
    Veras
    ___________ (lefty)

  143. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    UtilityManDad

    Lucky guy, I live in Jacksonville so I can only come down on weekends. We hope to eventually move to Tampa/St Pete permanently but the timing isn’t right yet and we would need a bigger place than we have there now.

  144. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    Agreed,the only way you could get Marte from Pittsburgh is if you gave them Melky and a minor league pitcher.They are not about to give the Yankees Marte and a prospect.

  145. Fran January 11th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Regarding corporate sponsors I found this in an archive of River Ave. Blues

    It’s the [Your Name Here] hot dog stand at Yankee Stadium
    Posted by: Ben K. in New Yankee Stadium
    Got a few million dollars lying around? Want to stick your name on something at the new Yankee Stadium? Well, boy, do I have a sponsorship deal for you.

    According to a Tyler Kepner original in The Times today, the Yankees won’t be selling the naming rights to the new Yankee Stadium. They will, however, be selling the naming rights to everything else you can imagine inside the new stadium.

    Now, the Yankees know they are giving up a lot of money to keep the stadium name pure, and ostentatious luxury boxes aside, I like their attitude. “The dollars we passed were incomparable,” Yankees COO Lonn Trost said to Kepner. “Having said that, you wouldn’t rename the White House, you wouldn’t rename Grant’s Tomb and you wouldn’t rename the Grand Canyon. This is Yankee Stadium, and this will always be Yankee Stadium.”

  146. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Yanksrule57

    Do you own something in Tampa/St Pete area???

  147. ken777 January 11th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Whozat
    Maybe most teams don’t have a power hitter or high production guy in center, but this is the Yanks. Except for Melky, we have always had a great to smi-great cf., from Joe D on to BW. The history in Yanky land is different then for other teams. 27/08

  148. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Anyone here know that the Yankees had signed Marte as A FA & traded him to Pitt for Enrique Wilson, that move came under Cashman’s tenure.

  149. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    I have a small condo 20 minutes from Legends Field.
    I have a lot of family in the area. I was in the Navy for 24 years and moved a lot, so after that, when an opportunity came up to get a vacation place I jumped.

  150. Blondie (has more fun) January 11th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    Oh great.

    If the Cowboys lose, everyone will scapegoat Jessica Simpson and Blondes.

  151. Blondie (has more fun) January 11th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Yanksrule57-

    is that your vacation home or your (wink.wink) primary home (the NY tax board is listening) ?

  152. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    Maybe most teams don’t have a power hitter or high production guy in center, but this is the Yanks.

    The context of the discussion was whether other teams would be interested in a player like Melky in trade as a CFer. Someone asserted that they wouldn’t because (he said) CF is a position where teams expect power production. I disagreed because, well…that’s not true.

    Except for Melky, we have always had a great to smi-great cf., from Joe D on to BW.

    Ideally, sure, you want an elite 5-tool player in CF. But you don’t always get what you want. A solid player, given the rest of the lineup is fine.

    Anyone here know that the Yankees had signed Marte as A FA & traded him to Pitt for Enrique Wilson, that move came under Cashman’s tenure.

    He was a AA reliever at the time. It was a mid-season deal. Presumably there was some MLB need that led to that trade.

  153. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Yanksrule57

    Ah O.K…….I had an aunt/uncle living in StPete area back in 1997 so I became a season ticket holder in 1999 for ST games.
    I fly down twice during the month of March,once in the begining,and then again towrds the end.

  154. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Blondie,

    If your are talking about Terry Bradshaw I guess he forgets that he went through several of his multiple wives (3,4,5?) during his career. Sad that people like him presume to know individual athletes and how they should live their lives.

  155. Blondie (has more fun) January 11th, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    So what offseason improvements have the Yankees made?

    What is the status of Molina?

  156. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    Marte spent time with the White Sox before returning to the Pirate Organization.

  157. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    god, we are arguing about a move that cant happen no, and apparently was never even close to happening. If you’re going to argue that they should have signed cameron today, please state who you would have released from the 25 man roster. had they moved melky for marte or any other major league, they also would have had to release someone.

  158. Blondie (has more fun) January 11th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    Yanksrule57-

    well, the knocks came from his own team mates, Terrel Owens, and from the ESPN knuckleheads.

  159. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    UtilityManDad,

    Yeah, that area since 1976 at least has always been home.
    That’s how I became a Buccaneers fan. I was living there when they were established.

  160. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Blondie,
    For Tony Romo, like Tiger Woods says, “winning solves everything”.

    Re Molina: He was signed to a new two year deal earlier this offseason. A good call by the Yanks BTW. It appears we got the Molina brother that can hit a little bit.

  161. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    “please state who you would have released from the 25 man roster.”

    You mean the 40-man? Well, they don’t have to do that until they announce the deal. And they can take plenty of time to do that, as they did with Jorge, Mo and Alex. If they trade for Marte, they’ll probably have to send Melky and some pitcher off the 40-man. A Marquez or someone like that.

    Anyhow, talking about Cameron is, now, moot. You’re right.

    “So what offseason improvements have the Yankees made?”

    Well, they replaced Clemens, Igawa/Pavano/random-AAA-guy and some of Moose’s starts with Joba, Hughes and Kennedy.

  162. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    It appears we got the Molina brother that can hit a little bit.

    Well…Bengie’s the best hitter. But he’s also so slow that he seems to be moving backwards :-)

    Jose is a good hitter for a backup, and very good defensively.

  163. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Benjie Molina is actually a pretty decent hitter.

  164. Blondie (has more fun) January 11th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    whozat-

    it seems like we’re starting the season with same cast that got eliminated by cleveland (sans Rocket). :(

  165. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    whozat,Buddy,

    Okay, but you’ve got to admit it’s hard to keep these guys straight :)

    Seriously, Our Molina did get hot at one point and was raking. I think he even had one game with three or four hits.

  166. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 11th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Who gets the scapegoat when the Jaguars crush the Patriots? :-D

    I know, I know, it’s wishful thinking…

    …at least the Nets managed to lose by less than ten to the Celtics.

  167. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    it seems like we’re starting the season with same cast that got eliminated by cleveland (sans Rocket).

    Really? A playoff rotation of Wang, Pettitte, Clemens, Moose and one of Wang, Pettitte, Joba, Hughes looks the same to you?

  168. UtilityManDad January 11th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Molina
    9-23-07 3 for 4 3 RBIS vs Toronto

    9-30-07 3 for 5 @Baltimore

    Finished with 07 Yanks 1 HR 9 RBIS 21 for 66

  169. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Blondie (has more fun) January 11th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Yanksrule57-

    is that your vacation home or your (wink.wink) primary home (the NY tax board is listening) ?

    I missed this earlier LOL! But sorry, both homes are in the income tax free (for now) State of Florida. But the insurance and property taxes here are getting out of control. Just like that NY DA going after the captain to make a name for himself. Way to go encourage more wealthy folks to move to NY. Just brilliant! (sarcasm off).

  170. Blondie (has more fun) January 11th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Rebecca-

    the Victoria’s Secret girl is gonna get crushed! which won’t be too hard to accomplish, seeing she’s a size sub-zero.

    speaking of which, Hi Tom – Hi Honey!!

    http://pics.livejournal.com/aj.....7/s640x480

    Tom, kick that fake dirty-blonde to the curb and try the real thing!!

  171. i miss bernie January 11th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    considering that the yanks had the best AL record from june on, i dont think the yankees had to do anything radical this offseason. ill concede that this SP staff isnt quite ready for the post season, but it may be by season’s end. this is certainly a transition year, after this season there is a much better FA class and the Yanks will have money to burn, with about $50M coming off the payroll and the new ballyard opening. think what that can do along with a bunch of good young arms. i know the yankees never admit to rebuilding, but that is really what this is. and its not like they wont have any chance of making the postseason.

  172. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Check this out Robin Ventura had an ankle transplant:

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=mlb

  173. Smadar January 11th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    How do you know that replacing Clemens and Moose with two rookies will be an improvement at all?

  174. Clare January 11th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Did anyone else see this NYTimes article? I think the headline is wrong. Instead of “For McNamee and Clemens, Another Dispute” I would have titled it: “More Questions About McNamee’s Credibility.”

    He has a problem if he told the feds one thing and Mitchell something else.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01.....ref=slogin

  175. Blondie (has more fun) January 11th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    whozat -

    sugar, we haven’t provided much offensive support in the past few post-seasons.

  176. Yanksrule57 January 11th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Rebecca,

    Randy Moss will be the goat. Think about it; Belichick is a genius, nope, can’t blame him. Brady is America’s Quarterback, too many political implications there. Can’t blame Maroney ’cause they never run the ball.
    Welker? Nope, short and elf-like, he is a sympathetic figure.

    Yup it’s got to be a mercenary like Randy Moss.

  177. mel January 11th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Rebecca,

    I’m so mad at your Nets. They had the Celtics on the ropes for 3 quarters.

  178. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 11th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    Blondie: You’re on Livejournal too?! Do you know there’s http://yankeesfans.livejournal.com ? It’s a….Yankees’ Community :-D.

    But you probably know already.

    Yanksrule: Hah! I can totally see that happening, too!

  179. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 11th, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    mel: They’re the Nets.

    You don’t get mad. Just disappointed. And people wonder why I like baseball and hockey best…

  180. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 11th, 2008 at 11:35 pm

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  181. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Here’s an interesting story I found on River Ave Blues, it;s about how Cashamn decided against acquiring Randy Johnson in Aug 1998 when they were 76-27, 15 games up on the Red Sox. Things may have turned out different in 2001.

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f.....wanted=all

  182. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    The deal would have been Irabu, Lowell & another class A player for Johnson.

  183. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    sugar, we haven’t provided much offensive support in the past few post-seasons.

    Given that the team has been incredibly offensively productive, is the solution to that problem going out and signing another aging free agent (like Torii Hunter) to a bad contract, or getting the offensive juggernaut that the Yankees already are to just relax and play their game when October rolls around?

  184. Bronx Liaison January 11th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    Buddy,

    I will play devil’s advocate.

    Things may have also been different in 98, 99 and 2000.

    I am not saying chemistry is everything in baseball, but after witnessing the type of clubhouse cancer Randy Johnson was in NY for two years, who is to say the yankees would have won those three straight titles with Unit possibly killing the chemistry which that team had so much of.

    It’s nice to isolate the 2001 world series with the thinking of no randy johnson means no 1-2 punch of Unit/Schilling, but who knows what type of impact Johnson might have had on the teams that DID win championships.

    That said, I agree it is interesting.

  185. Bronx Liaison January 11th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    That would have been an absurd 99 rotation though:

    Randy Johnson
    Roger Clemens
    Andy Pettitte
    David Cone
    El Duque

  186. whozat January 11th, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    It’s nice to isolate the 2001 world series with the thinking of no randy johnson means no 1-2 punch of Unit/Schilling, but who knows what type of impact Johnson might have had on the teams that DID win championships.

    Also, who’s to say he still wouldn’t have left via free agency in 98?

  187. Buddy Biancalana January 11th, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    2003 WS & 2004 ALCS may have turned out differently as well.

  188. Buddy Biancalana January 12th, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Also, who’s to say he still wouldn’t have left via free agency in 98?

    ————————————————————–

    Very true, although he did push hard to be traded to the Yankees a couple years back.

  189. mel January 12th, 2008 at 12:12 am

    Things could’ve turned out so differently…if only that cameraman didn’t stick his equipment in Johnson’s face on the streets of NYC. lol.

  190. Buddy Biancalana January 12th, 2008 at 12:14 am

    mel-

    Your mind is always in the gutter.

  191. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 12th, 2008 at 12:14 am

    Bronx Liason: Holy hell. I want that rotation in its prime! That’s like… a 140 game winning rotation.

    O_O;;;

    Where can I buy me one of those?

  192. mel January 12th, 2008 at 12:17 am

    No, Buddy, your mind’s in the gutter. lol.

    I didn’t want to be redundant and use the ‘cameraman’ and ‘camera’.

  193. Buddy Biancalana January 12th, 2008 at 12:28 am

    Rebecca-

    Don’t forget w/o the Unit, the ’98 Yanks won 125 games including the post season.

  194. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 12th, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Buddy: I remember quite well!

  195. Blondie (has more fun) January 12th, 2008 at 12:29 am

    In what way was Randy Johnson a “clubhouse cancer” ???

  196. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 12th, 2008 at 12:52 am

    Wasn’t Johnson rumoured to be always miserable or something like that?

  197. Bronx Liaison January 12th, 2008 at 1:09 am

    BLONDIE:

    I think this would suffice as “clubhouse cancer.”

    From Bob Klapisch a ways back:

    The Unit, cold and aloof from the first day, never fit in with the Yankees, spending most of his time at his locker with his back to his teammates. There was no emotional investment on either side; even the fans sensed Johnson was just passing through on his way to Cooperstown. Maybe it was Johnson’s way of acting tough in a big market, or maybe it was his frustration at the stunning number of fastballs he threw over the middle of the plate, and the sliders that were usually flat.

    Whatever the reason, Johnson was unhappy enough to look daggers at Johnny Damon last August when the outfielder tried to rally the slumping Yankees. In the middle of the clubhouse, Damon shouted to the whole team, “Come on, you [expletive]. Wake up!” From across the room, Johnson stared coldly, so unnerving Damon that he later asked a club official, “Did I do something wrong?”

  198. Bronx Liaison January 12th, 2008 at 1:11 am

    the funny part is that’s from a post I wrote over a year ago discussing the possibility of a Santana trade “far down the road.”

    http://bronx-bomberz.blogspot......-plan.html

  199. baseball expert January 12th, 2008 at 1:13 am

    at least he didnt take roids like roger.

  200. baseball expert January 12th, 2008 at 1:16 am

    or should i say roidger….

  201. Blondie (has more fun) January 12th, 2008 at 1:46 am

    baseball expert-

    so RJ didn’t take ‘roids, you mean his anger was organic? Whew!

  202. McLovin January 12th, 2008 at 3:31 am

    So we are making fun of Randy now.Man this blog loves to talk trash about true aces.Heard the Yankees never pulled the trigger on a deal for him about ten years ago…you know we could have gotten him when he was younger.Hey in 15 years we will then decide to get SAntana after his prime.Who cares if Randy wasn’t a nice guy he was a Ace we just got him too late…the same thing with Santana.

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    No, there wasn’t any. I take it the person who started the site didn’t get around to it yet. It will be interesting to see if that person gets to the areas where say, Crosley Field, Forbes Field, Ebbets Field, the Polo Grounds, etc. were and adds on to the site.

    There are several great books dealing with old ballparks. One was Green Cathedrals. Another is Lost Ballparks by Lawrence Ritter. I don’t know if either is still in print. I would hope so.

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