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The new Stadium starting to take form

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 14, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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The folks at Sliding Into Home have some great photos of the construction at the new Stadium.

Unlike the Mets, who have given reporters and photographers tours of their new park, the Yankees have not let the media venture into the new place yet. Not sure why. But then these are the same people who needed a month to admit they signed Alex Rodriuguez.

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Sorry for the lack of posts the last few days. I’m pretty sick and sitting at my laptop doesn’t help. Broke down and went to the doctor today and he hooked me up with some stuff. The guest posts will keep coming, but unless some actual news breaks I may be on the DL for another day or so.

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334 Responses to “The new Stadium starting to take form”

  1. Josh January 14th, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    feel better

  2. Frank Marco January 14th, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Feel better Pete….hope that “stuff” whatever it is….makes you feel better.

    stadium looks awesome!

  3. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    I am once again further convinced that it *is* possible to spread illness through the internet.

    It would explain a lot, for sure.

    Feel better Pete!

  4. Alan January 14th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    re: the photo – ‘T is Home Sweet Home.

    Get well, Pete. Be careful that your new treatment “stuff” is nothing about which that slug George Mitchell will make unsubstantiated rumors. We don’t want you to be classified with star athletes and wealthy actors/musicians, do we?

  5. Joe Buck ruins my life with his bad MLB/NFL playoff announcing January 14th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    Oh not the Mets again. Good pics though.

  6. emobacca January 14th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    Is the upper deck split into two? That looks cool, you could watch the game while on the concourses

  7. Jersey Dope January 14th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Get well. That “stuff” wouldn’t happen to be flaxseed oil, would it?

  8. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    I like that it looks like it’s going to be completed long before the 2009 season, so unlike the Devils the Yankees won’t have to start with 9 straight on the road (of course, for the yanks it’d be more like 9 series than 9 games)

  9. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    “Is the upper deck split into two? That looks cool, you could watch the game while on the concourses”

    That’d make sense. I’ve been to a couple newer parks, and they’ve both shared that feature…where you can see out onto the field from some of the concourses.

  10. Hooog January 14th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    My sentiments exactly Alan.

    Get well Pete.

  11. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    get better pete!

  12. BillyJoBob January 14th, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Thanks for the pic Pete, I’m marooned out here in CA and you and the rest are my lifeline from whence I came.

    Sorry you’re feeling bad, I’m sure it couldn’t have been anything you ate! The bright side is heading for Fla soon.

  13. whoa January 14th, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    FB, PA.

  14. kd January 14th, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    feel better pete.

  15. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    So the doctor hooks Pete up with some PEDs. Interesting. Better advise Mitchell about that.

  16. Matt (In Toronto) January 14th, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    Wait. The Yankees signed a guy by the name Alex Rodriuguez?

  17. Jersey Dope January 14th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    GreenBeret, that’s an interesting point. Since Pete covers the Yanks and doesn’t play for them, is Mitchell interested in what he does? There’s a chance the “impartial senator” will be interested, since Pete does not cover the Sox.

  18. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    No question about it, Rebecca. Viruses can be spread through the computers. B-12 shots for computers and everybody.

  19. JoseGayes January 14th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    So go cover the Mets then, you slut.

  20. AlbanyYankee January 14th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Went over to the site with all the stadium pics. Doesn’t it look like the facade is going to interfere with the view from the top rows of the upper deck? Maybe it is just the angle the picture was taken at. Not sure.

  21. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Yep. Those shots of “stuff” for Pete will allow him to out write and outblog his fellow writers…although outwriting Lupica is easy…you only need common sense and class.

  22. MGW 27 in '08 January 14th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Fascinating…..
    an ailing Abraham STILL out-blogs every other newsy.
    Good job, Pete!
    and, hope ya get well/get feelin’ better soon.

  23. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    im back
    reading that last thread, i cant believe how many people have these outfielders who havent had 1 AA at bat filling spaces in the yankees lineup. if this blog was around 5 years ago, you guys would have had brien taylor saving 40 games this season.

    and on the pettite front, yes i AM going to boo him when i see him. our criminal justtice system does give MOST (not all) people 2nd chances, but only after they are penalized, not a free pass.

    i will root for the yankees when he pitches and eventually i expect i will forgive him for cheating, especially if it turns out that he only did it twice (jury is still out in my mind) but first i plan on letting him know what i think of his choice to cheat.

  24. Hooog January 14th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Rebecca – As long as you don’t see an abscess on the REAR of your computer, you can at least feel good that your PC didn’t use any steroids.

  25. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    i guess it might have been more like 10 yrs ago for taylor, but u get the point.

  26. Vader January 14th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    bernie, Brien Taylor was around some 15 years ago.

  27. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    “our criminal justtice system does give MOST (not all) people 2nd chances, but only after they are penalized, not a free pass.”

    What, exactly, is the criminal punishment for possessing and taking two doses of a prescription drug for which you have no prescription?

    I’m curious…what if he’d done shrooms twice? Those are a controlled substance. No legal reason to have them.

    Methinks it’s not the legality of the HGH that’s actually got you bothered.

  28. Clare January 14th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    I miss bernie,

    The criminal justice system is not interested in Pettitte, or, in fact, anyone else with such a minimal use of HGH, or any illegal drug for that matter.

    This isn’t a case of an athlete getting a “second chance” or special treatment. This is the opposite – where an athlete is getting grief for something no one would care about if his name was joe blow.

    Seriously, how many here have never ingested any illegal sustances at least twice?

    You can label it cheating if you like, however HGH wasn’t banned by baseball at the time, and using it twice would have absolutely no effect on his body. Given that an estimated 50-75% of MLB players have used steroids or HGH, singling Pettitte out as a cheater seems like a stretch to me.

  29. Mark McCray January 14th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Hey guys…I have some more photos at The Bronx Stop of the Stadium…

    http://bronxstop.blogspot.com/.....hotos.html

  30. Mark McCray January 14th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    hahaha…well…or you could just go to Sliding into Home like Pete Said lol

  31. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    “however HGH wasn’t banned by baseball at the time”

    yes, but apparently there was a blanket clause in place at the time that made using any prescription drugs without a prescription against MLB rules. At least, I’m pretty sure Pete or someone said that on here and backed it up with evidence.

  32. Vader January 14th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Pete, where do you stand on the Rodney situation regarding HGH?

  33. Clare January 14th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    whazat,

    True, but using drugs without a prescription is a whole different matter. Again, who’s never used someone elses’ antiobiotics or left over Vicodin? (hypothetically speaking, of course).

    I’m not arguing that what he did was right, I just wouldn’t call him a cheater for doing it. I think cheating involves some intent to violate the rules or gain an unfair advantage, and I just don’t see that with Pettitte.

  34. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Hooog: HAH!

    No, no absesses….though sometimes I do wonder if by virtue of it being a mac it’s on performance enhancers…

  35. Greg Cohen January 14th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Hey Pete, feel better, and thanks for posting this. I hope everyone likes my site.

  36. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    whozzat you are right my condemnation has nothing to do with the legality of it, i was commenting on a poster who posed that analogy. my condemnation is based on his cheating.

    clare, if andy thought the HGH would have absolutly no effect, then why did he take it? and that is supposing that he only did it twice. and why then is it banned if it has no effect?

    and speaking as one who HAS injested illegal substances more than once AND got caught AND had to pay a penalty, i think if you do it and get caught you have to pay a penalty. where is his penalty for cheating?

  37. Wolf In Pinstripes January 14th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    Greg’s done a great job of keeping the new pics coming. And I appreciate you sharing them with me over at Club Bronx the way you have, Greg. Very cool blog there at “SIH”, for those who haven’t checked it out yet.

    There’s a lot of good pics to be found out there. Greg’s got ‘em there at Sliding Into Home, Mark’s got ‘em at The Bronx Stop, and I’ve seen them at some other message boards and whatnot as well. Thanks to everybody that shares them with the rest of us Yankee fans. The progress on the stadium is getting me pretty amped.

  38. Greg Cohen January 14th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Thanks for the kind words Wolf, and I’ll continue to post them over at Club Bronx as I find them.

  39. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    guys, thanx for the pix, keep em coming!

  40. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 14th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Wolf Until everyone gets their bills for 2009 season tickets. :lol:

  41. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 14th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    31 days 16 hours 16 minutes!! :)

    Yankees.com has the countdown up.

  42. T.O. January 14th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    Don’t be talking about my stadium like that, that’s my stadium, that’s my quarterback :(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyRmf2UHPyM

  43. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    I’m excited!

  44. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Bernie, I guess Pettitte’s penalty is going to be your constant harping on this subject, along with your “moratorium” that you mention in every thread, saying you’re not talking about it. Seems that you spend a lot of time talking about something that you’re not talking about.

  45. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    “I think cheating involves some intent to violate the rules”

    You either didn’t read my post through or missed the point. Apparently, at the time Andy used HGH, there was a blanket clause in the MLB rules stating that using prescription drugs without a prescription was not allowed.

    So, he did violate that rule. Though HGH was not specifically banned at that time.

    “and speaking as one who HAS injested illegal substances more than once AND got caught AND had to pay a penalty, i think if you do it and get caught you have to pay a penalty.”

    Is it the legal thing or not? It’s not against the law to violate the rules of baseball. It’s probably against the law to possess/use HGH without a prescription…but what’re the penalties for that? What’s the penalty for two Vicodin?

  46. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    gb
    pitchers who pitched for yanks and red sox
    former senators
    former trainers
    ace pitchers for teams for the upper midwest

    and i only comment about pettite’s cheating when people excuse it.

  47. Wolf In Pinstripes January 14th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    Well, that’s true jennifer. I wish I still lived close enough to get reamed for tickets, as sick as that sounds.

  48. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    “where is his penalty for cheating?”

    Public shame? Having to go in front of Congress the day before he is to report to spring training? Likely harassment about it all season from the media?

  49. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 14th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Please I see Andy’s name misspelled all the time! There are two t’s!!

    PeTTiTTe.

  50. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    It might interest you all to know that during the Salem Witch Trials, those that escaped with their lives were those that pled guilty to the charges.

  51. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    Bernie, I sure wish I had a halo like you. Must get awfully tiring though, shining it up 24 hours a day.

  52. 17-0**** January 14th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    My prediction for this week’s marquee matchup
    Patriots 62, Giants 2

  53. 17-0**** January 14th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    that should be Chargers instead of Giants.

  54. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    whozzat
    the excuses for his cheating are generally explained away with this ‘second chance’ idea, which completly ignores the cheater paying a penalty first, then being forgiven.

    and several people have used the ‘who hasnt broken the law’ excuse.

    i dont care about the legal aspects of it, i am condemning cheating. i have steadfastly condemned all the people who have used ped and as much as it pains me to condemn andy pettite, formerly my 2nd favorite yankee, it would be completly hypocritical of me not to condemn andy as strongly as i have, say Barry Bonds or Rafeal Palmero. And those of you who have condemned other players (mcgwire, etc.) and are giving andy a pass are hypocrites. and those who havent condemned ped users at all, in my opinion dont care about the long term interests of the game of baseball or the effects ped use by mlb players has on young athelets.

  55. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    gb
    you are the person that said last week that i have appointed myself god because i condemned cheating in baseball.

    if only god or angels can condemn cheating in baseball, then baseball is finished imo.

  56. Michael January 14th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Feel better Pete, you should take a b-12 shot Roger Clemens style.

  57. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    whozzat
    yes public shame is all we have to condemn the cheaters with, exactly my point!
    so when are the yankee fans going to heap some of it on andy pettite? this board is full of excuses but no shame or condemnation!

  58. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Bernie, I have an married aunt that used to spend most of her time condeming peoples faults and clicking her tongue over their perceived indiscretions. It got tiresome. She was also the biggest tramp in town. You remind me a lot of her.

  59. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    “it would be completly hypocritical of me not to condemn andy as strongly as i have, say Barry Bonds or Rafeal Palmero.”

    No, it would show that you realize the world exists in shades of grey and isn’t just black and white.

  60. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    “Bernie, I have an married aunt that used to spend most of her time condeming peoples faults and clicking her tongue over their perceived indiscretions. It got tiresome. She was also the biggest tramp in town. ”

    I knew a girl like her in college. She’d scold my girlfriend (we had a monogamous relationship for almost two years) for sleeping with me and then go hook up with multiple dudes in the same weekend.

  61. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Whozat, you didn’t know her in the biblical sense, did you?

  62. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    Obviously not =P

  63. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    gb
    dont like the message so personally attack the messenger. 3x now. thats weak.
    why dont you defend giving cheaters a pass instead of attacking me?

  64. Blargh January 14th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    whozat: Out of curiosity, I’m actually looking through the penalties sections of the Controlled Substances Act
    ( http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/csa.html scroll down to part D)
    Unfortunately, the legalese is making my head spin

  65. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    “Whozat, you didn’t know her in the biblical sense, did you?”

    That tramp? Nope. I’m a faithful man.

  66. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Not faithful in the biblical sense, in the loyal sense:-)

  67. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Nobody’s attacking you, Bernie. Just relating a story. You’re hardly worth the effort to attack, anyway.

  68. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    Well I was always faithful to my wife and girlfriends..

  69. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Didn’t have a wife and girlfriends at the same time, of course. Couldn’t afford that.

  70. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    gb
    “She was also the biggest tramp in town. You remind me a lot of her.”

    “Bernie, I sure wish I had a halo like you. Must get awfully tiring though, shining it up 24 hours a day.”

    “Nobody’s attacking you, Bernie.”

    now im gonna have to call you a liar.

  71. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    “Any person who violates this subsection may be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not more than 1 year, and shall be fined a minimum of $1,000, or both”

    I think that’s what would apply. In Title 21 section 844. That’s simple possession. So, they _could_ give him prison time, but I’m pretty certain they wouldn’t give anyone who did that prison time. It’s just not cost-effective for the state. They could (and perhaps should) fine him, though.

  72. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    Oh, so, now you’re attacking me, Bernie. In your eyes, that makes you as guilty as me.

  73. Blargh January 14th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    Mmm, closest I see to end-users would be the section on ‘penalties for simple possession’
    http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/csa/844.htm#a

    “It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly or intentionally to possess a controlled substance unless such substance was obtained directly, or pursuant to a valid prescription or order, from a practitioner, while acting in the course of his professional practice, or except as otherwise authorized by this subchapter or subchapter II of this chapter.” – this I find rather interesting
    So what happens if you unknowningly/unintentionally come to possess a controlled substance via illicit means?
    (and to be honest, my eyes glaze over as I skim over the rest of that paragraph; I assume that the rest are the penalties)

  74. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    “Well I was always faithful to my wife and girlfriends”

    Only ever really had girlfriends :-) Never really done the one-night thing.

  75. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Well, in Pettitte’s situation, the Statute Of Limitations has run out.

  76. al arodien January 14th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    Get Well soon ! we really miss you !

  77. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    gb

    lying and excusing cheating?

    were you actually in the Green Berets?

  78. Old Yanks Fan January 14th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Pete is sick!
    Paging Dr. McNamee. Paging Dr. McNamee.

  79. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    “So what happens if you unknowningly/unintentionally come to possess a controlled substance via illicit means?”

    If you can prove that you had no idea what it was, or that it came into your possession by accident…I guess you’re fine. I mean…if you ask someone for Claritin and they sell you Ecstasy…is that your fault?

  80. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Still, your love life is probably way more successful than mine

  81. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    I could never afford those one night stands, either. Hotels/motels were expensive. always lived in the country, so it was risky to have dinner, drinks and drive 25 miles. No way was I going to try to impress a young lady with my cooking. I preferred that they were alive.

  82. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    “Still, your love life is probably way more successful than mine”

    What, mine?

  83. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    whozat: Yep. Hell, anyone’s :-D

  84. Old Yanks Fan January 14th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I miss bernie:
    In the history of baseball, literally THOUSANDS of players have cheated. We won’t even talk about ‘legal’ use of alcohol and cigarettes and a multitude of other drugs.
    In real life, millions of people cheat and break the law everyday.
    Yet you single out Andy Pettitte?
    You have a problem Dude, not Andy.
    Get over yourself!

  85. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Bernie, there’s one way to find out. Come on down to Georgia, and, I’ll take you to a ranger training site and you can go through some of their training, before you move up to the big boy stuff…and I’m in my late 50s and still do it. Only difference is, now I do it for fun.

  86. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    “I could never afford those one night stands, either. Hotels/motels were expensive. always lived in the country, so it was risky to have dinner, drinks and drive 25 miles. No way was I going to try to impress a young lady with my cooking. I preferred that they were alive.”

    In college it’s way easier, if you want it. It’s like going to co-ed camp, but most people are drunk a lot of the time.

    I just learned one recipie that’s easy and tastes good…you make a little tinfoil boat, put a piece of salmon in there skin down, pour some cheap white wine and lemon juice over it. Throw it on the grill for about 10 minutes or so, and you’re golden. The skin sticks to the foil, so you can just use a metal spatula type thing to take the meat off the skin.

    Yum. And “ooh! It’s salmon!”

  87. Jim Clark January 14th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Let’s hope our taxpayer dollars give us two nice, unneeded stadia in the Bronx and Queens, unlike the two disasters built by Limdsay and Wagner. Hope you are feeling better. Roger Clemens must be puzzled at the idea of going to an MD to be treated.

  88. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    “whozat: Yep. Hell, anyone’s”

    Meh. Not for the last two years it hasn’t been :-)

    I’m in a doctoral program in computer science. How many unmarried women do you think I see on a day-to-day basis?

    The answer is one. And she’s engaged.

  89. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    oyf
    read my above comments where i condemn all ped cheaters and specifically mention several of them and my regret that andy pettite is one of them.

    note also above where i say that i will eventually forgive him as i have mcgwire, giambi and others.

    also not about where i admit to using illegal substances and having been caught and penalized

    alcohol and cigarettes and pot and cocaine are not peds

  90. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Sounds good, Whozat. I still prefer cow, though. It’s difficult to grill in the winter time, even here. It’ll be 75 one day and 25 the next.

    Now, of course, I’m looking for someone who not only cooks, but, cleans house, does laundry, takes out the trash, does dishes, and then goes home around 1 AM.

    Just kidding, ladies.

  91. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    whozat: Ah, you sound like my friend who’s a physics grad student!

  92. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    ok gb and thanks for your service.
    i myself served in the U.S. Navy
    im just suprised to see a special forces guy defending cheating and attacking someone for an opinion you disagree with.
    dont attack me, defend your position.
    and stand up for what you say, dont lie about it.

  93. Doreen January 14th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Pete -

    Get well soon.

  94. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    I’m sure it will be a load off of Pettitte’s mind when you finally forgive him. He’ll certainly be crushed until then.

  95. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    im sure its already a load of his mind that you dont care that he did it in the 1st place.

    really discourages others from cheating doesnt it?

  96. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    I didn’t lie about it, Bernie. If you want to be attacked, go to Iraq. I just think it’s stupid that every time somebody mentions Mitchell, Clemens, Santana that you feel the need to preach and remind everyone of your “moratorium”. Once should surely suffice.

  97. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    “Sounds good, Whozat. I still prefer cow, though.”

    Well…yeah, for me. But we were talking about impressing ladies with our cooking, not making dream-dinner.

    Cow is good, no doubt, but have you ever had moose? This dude I knew and his dad took a moose while bow hunting up here, and as a result had more meat than they knew what to do with, so they gave it away to basically everyone they could think of. The steaks we got had this tanginess that was really good. And they made mean burgers too.

  98. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    “whozat: Ah, you sound like my friend who’s a physics grad student!”

    The physics department here has WAY more women than we do. At least, that’s my perception of it :-)

  99. Bronx Liaison January 14th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Hank already dismissed today’s report which said Hughes was off the table.

    http://bronx-bomberz.blogspot......neous.html

  100. ET90210 January 14th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    Feel better Pete!! Stupid flu season.

    Anyway, I read the same thing about Hank. Can this man be trusted, at all? haha

    http://mlbfleecefactor.com/200.....-for-good/

  101. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 14th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    Just so everyone knows there were 78 other players named in the Mitchell report. From all the articles and reports you would have thought that only 2 players were named.

  102. Bronx Liaison January 14th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    ESPN is reporting it now too:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3195926

  103. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    whozat: Ahh, I see.

  104. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    “She was also the biggest tramp in town. You remind me a lot of her.”

    “She was also the biggest tramp in town. You remind me a lot of her.”

    “you feel the need to preach and remind everyone of your “moratorium”.

    Nobody’s attacking you, Bernie.

    I didn’t lie about it, Bernie

    i have not attacked you personally gb except to point out that you lied when you said you werent attacking me.

    where’s the honor?

  105. mike eff January 14th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    to “miss bernie” or whatever you name is:

    when you are standing up booing andy pettitte at the stadium as you claim you will be doing; i hope someone throws a beer in your face.

  106. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    “Anyway, I read the same thing about Hank. Can this man be trusted, at all?”

    I feel like the media puts words in his mouth and then makes it seem like he’s changed his mind and flip flopped when, really, nothing changed. The offer hasn’t “been on the table” for a month. He’s been of two minds about doing the deal for a while. Cash and Hal are against it. He was leaning towards it for a while, and has been leaning more and more against it as time has progressed.

    Do any of the media reports conflict with the pretty sane version of events I’ve laid out above?

  107. YankeeJosh January 14th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    “I think cheating involves some intent to violate the rules”

    You either didn’t read my post through or missed the point. Apparently, at the time Andy used HGH, there was a blanket clause in the MLB rules stating that using prescription drugs without a prescription was not allowed.

    This may be true, but it’s a flimsy excuse imo, since baseball never enforced it. For example, amphetemines (greenies) would fall in the same category but its use in baseball was widely accepted. Teams had coffee jars loaded with the stuff. Baseball players as famous as Willie Mays were alleged to have used greenies.

    From a Crasnick article on espn.com

    During the Pittsburgh drug trials in the mid-1980s, outfielder John Milner testified that Willie Mays introduced him to a liquid amphetamine known as “red juice.” More than a decade later, Tony Gwynn spoke of rampant amphetamine use in the game, and David Wells referred to greenies in his book, “Perfect I’m Not: Boomer on Beer, Brawls, Backaches, and Baseball.”

    So, is Willie Mays a cheater? Because what all these players did is on par with what Pettitte did. Namely, took a controlled substance that wasn’t banned by baseball. Note that the MLB blanket clause has been there since the 1970′s, so it’s nothing new.

    So, given the culture in baseball, it’s easy to see how an athlete could have used HGH as a healing agent and not thought anything of it since the drug specifically wasn’t banned by baseball at the time.

  108. YankeeJosh January 14th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Source for my last post:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....type=story

  109. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Whozat, I’ve had moose once. Good eating. Sort of a cross betwen beef and venison. I’m from Michigan and my brothers and I go bow hunting a lot up in the Upper Peninsula where one of them lives.If it’s for sport, we use compound bows, for sport when we’re hungry, we use crossbows…either the fibreglass bows or, I’ll use a Montanyard crossbow. I still make my own arrows. If it’s strictly to lay in a winter supply of meat, then rifles. If you ever get to Oklahoma or Montana, you have got to eat a buffalo steak with onions and mushrooms. Unbelievable taste.

  110. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    “If you ever get to Oklahoma or Montana, you have got to eat a buffalo steak with onions and mushrooms. Unbelievable taste.”

    I’ve had buffalo before, and the meat is sooo good. So lean and flavorful. I’d love to have some that’s locally grown, though. I was in Wyoming this fall and saw some on the hoof. They’re HUGE. Saw elk too, and heard them, in the Tetons. They have these weirdly high pitched voices for being such large animals. I guess it carries better or something.

  111. Bronx Liaison January 14th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    I feel like the media puts words in his mouth and then makes it seem like he’s changed his mind and flip flopped when, really, nothing changed.

    Good point Whozat except for one thing. All Hank has to do is say “no comment” or “sorry guys, nothing new to report” and he won’t have to worry about the media putting words in his mouth.

    I like the fact that Hank seems to want to communicate with the fanbase and appears to be a straightshooter, but I still stick to the belief that Hank has to pick his spots. If I wanted a daily discourse between the owner of a team and the media I’d follow Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson around.

  112. Bronx Liaison January 14th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    [That Jerry/Jimmy image referred to the early 90s Cowboys teams.]

  113. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    “he won’t have to worry about the media putting words in his mouth.”

    No doubt. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s not the kind of whimsical crazy man some make him out to be :-)

  114. Bronx Liaison January 14th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Good point Whozat.

    He’s just easy fodder for me. Talks too much, smokes too many Marlboro Lights and is a billionaire’s aire.

  115. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    “He’s just easy fodder for me. Talks too much, smokes too many Marlboro Lights and is a billionaire’s aire.”

    And I’d probably trade places with him in a half a minute.

  116. Bronx Liaison January 14th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    I think he has a lot more restraint than his father, but Hal still impresses me the most. I don’t mind Hank being honest and informative, I just wish he would temper it a bit more by deferring to his GM or Stick or someone more often.

    But agreed, he is not at all the whacky clown some media make him out to be.

  117. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    I used to run a diner in vermont where we served locally grown, all grass fed beef and buffalo. it was awesome!

  118. Bronx Liaison January 14th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    “And I’d probably trade places with him in a half a minute.”

    can’t disagree there.

  119. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    …This is obviously not a blog for vegetarians!

  120. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    Well, in Oklahoma, around Lawton/Ft Sill, and other of the smaller towns, a lot of the small restaurants have their own herds. We’re talking buffalo grazing one day and on your plate the next. Montana’s much the same away from the larger cities like Billings and Helena.

  121. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    “I used to run a diner in vermont where we served locally grown, all grass fed beef and buffalo.”

    I live in Vermont. Where can I get these buffalo steaks of which you speak?

    I’ve had buffalo burgers and such, which are definitely good, but once you’ve ground it up and put it on a bun, you’re not really getting the whole experience.

    Also, this one time I had grilled leg of baby. Delicious. Just fell right off the bone.

    ;->

  122. Bronx Liaison January 14th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    haha Rebecca..

    Vegetarian : “Don’t you know what they do to those chickens?”

    Me : “No, but it’s delicious.”

  123. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    “Well, in Oklahoma, around Lawton/Ft Sill, and other of the smaller towns,”

    Hm.

    I _am_ driving through the south when I move to california later this year…

  124. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Sure it is, Rebecca. These animals eat grass and bark and leafy things. Then, you see a little deah go to the stream and put its little deah lips in the water, and suddenly…BAMM!!! a slug hits it in the head and you’ve go a steak and one less animal eating your lawn.

  125. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    “deah”

    I’m from long island and those things are friggin pests. Sure, they look all adorable…until you’re driving down the road and one of them slams into your passenger side door because they’re literally too dumb to NOT run headlong into your car.

  126. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    that should be *deeh and deeh lips*

  127. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    They’ll tear up a car in a heartbeat. Saw one up above Syracuse once that rolled up the hood of a car with the legs and hooves through the windshield. Ugly.

  128. Blargh January 14th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    This talk makes me hunger for meat…namely swordfish, for some reason
    And here I am munching on some hot dog bread

  129. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    GB: Do you mean my car’s not safe?

  130. Tommy Callahan January 14th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    THAT…WAS…AWESOME!!!

    I’m sorry about your car Richard.

  131. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    stuffed pork chops topped with sauteed onions, garlic mashed potatoes and steamed green beans here!
    mmm mmmm!

  132. Blargh January 14th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    I also had some curry bread
    …Yes, I want your dinner

  133. Noname January 14th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Pete —

    ’tis the season for colds, flu, etc. Hot lemon & honey tea helps, but if you MUST, a hot toddy every few hours is an adequate substitute. Get a flu shot next fall.

    ————

    And some of the commenters here? I wish some of you would stop with the personal attacks on others posting on this blog, then blithely chatting up your hobbies, amusements, etc. with like-minded attackers, like this was YOUR blog.

  134. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    i cant do anything fancy but im a whizz with the comfort food. dad owned a steakhouse in valley stream and a diner in lynbrook, and i’ve run a few diners in my time.

  135. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    noname
    sorry if i was a litte overly strident in my beliefs. but im not a troll, i just have strong opinions especially on the ped subject.
    i dont get the personal attacks though.

  136. Joe from Long Island January 14th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    Pete – I’m sorry to read that you’re sick…Feel better!

    P.S. – strong tea mixed 50:50 with good brandy usually works!

  137. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    whozat-

    Where in California are you moving? I hail from Long Island as well, same town as Amy Fisher, Debbie Gibson & Lindsay Lohan. Jealous??? LOl!

  138. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Of course your car is safe, rebecca. Just don’t hit any deeh.

  139. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Echianacea works wonders for me when I am feeling under the weather.

  140. Old Yanks Fan January 14th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    whozat – Take a minor in HomeEc.

  141. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Not to get off of the subject, but, I’m trying to locate three songs. Two of them are titled “Skoal Dippin’ Man” and “Bad Whiskey” by Bobby Murcer, done in 1982. The other song was called “Palying Catch With the babe. released around late August of 1979. Artist unknown. It was about the death of Thurman Munson…not a bad song. It wasn’t Terry Cashman, though.

  142. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    “Where in California are you moving?”

    Bay area. Haven’t decided to live in the city or not. I’ll be working down in silicon valley, so the closer to SF, the more of a commute to work…but less of a commute to all the stuff in the city itself.

  143. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    *”Playing Catch With The Babe”*

  144. Jim PA January 14th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    I swear Hank is the Seinfeld Steinbrenner-
    “What offer? That offer? That never existed officially, not to say there hasn’t been talk, some talk, a little back and forth, forth and back. Talking’s good for the throat, not to mention the headlines. Y’know, if you put frosting on a shoe it’d taste pretty good to me…”

  145. Yanksrule57 January 14th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    GB7,

    I’m late to the party tonight, just got home from a class. I don’t know if you have any of these where you live but there are two chain restaurants that have GREAT bison burgers and steaks. Ted’s Montana Grill (Ted Turner owns it, yes that one), and Smokey Bones. I love the richer taste of bison and it is very lean so it’s also healthier than beef. Yum!

    BTW,
    For what it’s worth I think you were p***ng up the proverbial rope trying to reason with the person you were arguing with earlier. Exercise in futility….

  146. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    “whozat – Take a minor in HomeEc.”

    The doctoral program frowns upon outside commitments :-)

    Nah, I’m planning to graduate in 6 months. I’m not going to start anything with anyone if I’m about to move 3000 miles away.

  147. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Those rstareants aren’t here, YanksRule57. I’m in Savannah…Those are most likely around Atlanta, I would guess. I’ll check out the internet, though. Thanks for the tip. On the other, you’re right…just get tired of somebody needing to remind everyone of some idiotic “moratorium”. If he was trying to make a statement, just ignore it. It’s worse than PETA commercials.

  148. Boston Dave January 14th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    whozat,

    the BARTs not too bad so its not a big deal if you live outside of SF. doesnt take long to get into the city.

  149. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    *restareants*

  150. Yanksrule57 January 14th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    GB7,
    I checked for you, Smokey Bones is in Decatur and Charleston,SC (I’ve been to that one)and here in Jacksonville.
    You may not have them, but you have Paula Deans place there in Savannah. Woo,I put on weight just seeing her food on tv.

  151. i miss bernie January 14th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    yanks rule, gb
    i welcome your opinion although i dont agree with it.

  152. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    whozat-

    I live in SF, been here for almost 7 years, absolutely love it, just miss going to Yankee games. One of the best things out here is a I found a pickup baseball league, if your ever interested let me know. Could always use an extra Yankee fan around here, there are tons of Sox fans, too many.

    Caltrain is good for Silicon Vally, BART doesn’t go all the way there. The drive is about an hour from SF, though it’s much warmer in the South Bay.

  153. Don Vito January 14th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    We’ll keep praying that you get better soon, Pete !

  154. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    YanksRule, I’ll hit the Charleston site when I go up to watch the Baby Bombers play at home. they have some enormous talent coming to town. Montero, Sublett, Pruitt, Suttle and the rest. It’ll be a fun time.

  155. Yanksrule57 January 14th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    i miss bernie,

    Ok I’ll try, but believe me this is not personal.

    I object to two things.

    1. Calling Pettitte a cheater when he didn’t use while playing. He used when he was injured and was rehabbing. So you are not only wrong, you are stubbornly wrong.
    2. You know the old saying about people who live in glass houses. You might want to review that one and refer back to some of your previous posts.

    Oh and BTW I’ve had my disagreements with GB7, But he is an honorable guy and doesn’t warrant being called names.
    And finally, I’m retired Navy FWIW.

  156. Clare January 14th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Anyone planning on watching the hearing tomorrow?

    I can’t decide whether to set the tivo or just ignore it. I know it’s going to infuriate me, but I probably won’t be able to resist watching.

  157. Boston Dave January 14th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Clare,

    I was thinking I would just read the wrap-up/analysis on ESPN… but I think I prefer an honest, unbiased, and intelligent analysis. So unless you’re gonna do a write-up, I may DVR it myself.

  158. whozat January 14th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    “Caltrain is good for Silicon Vally, BART doesn’t go all the way there. The drive is about an hour from SF, though it’s much warmer in the South Bay.”

    Yeah, I was actually out there interning this summer, so I got a taste of the life. Took the caltrain in a few times, wasn’t too bad. Took a bit, though. I was kinda far out there, down in Mountain View. I think I want to split the difference between work and SF more this time, but not live in the city itself. I did LOVE the weather on the peninsula. It was cloudy two days in a row and people were apologizing for how terrible the weather was.

  159. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    Clare, it should be interesting to hear how Selig explains to Congress why he isn’t part of the problem and why he shouldn’t be blamed. I’d pay for tickets to see that show.

  160. Yanksrule57 January 14th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    GB7,

    Mrs Yanksrule’s family lives in Charleston and we visit quite often. I have never seen the Riverdogs play but keep meaning to. But family stuff always seems to come up and they have a sweet little inexpensive golf course at the Naval Weapons Station that frequently calls to me when I am there.

  161. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Not me, I got three classes tomorrow, ouch!

  162. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Getting Yanks/A’s tix is really easy & fairly inexpensive even for excellent seats, though the stadium is a total wasteland.

  163. whatever January 14th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Pete, will you be doing live-blogging of the Wesley Snipe trial? It could be a preview of the Jeter tax trial.

  164. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    YanksRule, you need to come and watch the kids play in Savannah. It’s only about 2 and a half hour drive from Jacksonville and Paulsen Stadium isn’t hard to find. Lots of history, there. The Ysnks played there on their way north in the 50s and early ’60s. There’s an old Yankees fan up here that’s had season tickets forever that tells great stories..and the homer Mantle hit over the pine trees in center field.

  165. Yanksrule57 January 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Buddy B,

    Did the A’s ever sign a deal to build a stadium outside of Oakland? Fresno? Fremont? I can’t remember where it was supposed to be.

  166. Dan January 14th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Feel better, Pete.

  167. Boston Dave January 14th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Buddy,

    I was also surprised at how cold it got during the Oakland night games in the summer. Can’t beat cheap seats though.

  168. Clare January 14th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Dave,

    I was actually shocked to see three different articles on ESPN today saying that Congress needs to focus on the owner/management enabling of the steroid era. Olney, Munson and Bryant all highlighted parts of the Mitchell report that weren’t about the players. These points have been ignored in favor of the Clemens drama. It’s taken a month to get any public discussion of management’s role at all.

    It would be nice if Congress focused on some of these issues. It would be even better if they asked a few questions about the Mitchell report itself, although I highly doubt that will happen.

    (and thanks Dave!)

  169. Andrea January 14th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    that picture makes me both happy and sad all at once.

    Feel better, Pete.

  170. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 14th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    Clare: Maybe someone from ESPN reads the blog!

  171. Yanksrule57 January 14th, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    GB7,

    I spend one weekend a month near Tampa and I am going to try hard to see the Tampa Yankees play this year. I’m within a 20 minute drive of the Dunedin, Clearwater, and Tampa teams. But that’s where my side of the family lives, so the same stuff comes up when we are down there.

  172. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    YanksRule, I go to watch the Tampa team play in Tampa a couple of times a year, and whenever they play in Ft. Myers. My brother has season tickets to the Miracle games.

  173. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    The new stadium will be in Fremont in 2011, about 25 miles south of Oakland. It’s going to be called Cisco Field. Although it’s not a totally done deal, it’s very very close.

    The A’s are supposed to change their name to include Fremont, like the Fremont A’s or the Athletics of Fremont or even the Silicon Valley A’s, even though they won’t be in Silicon Valley, but really close.

    At night, it’s never warm, you can never leave your window open at night either. It’s been warm at night like maybe 10 days total in 7 years. There is never any snow & rarely gets colder than 45.

  174. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    Buddy, I guess that’s better than calling the park Balco Field.

  175. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Balco field is where the Giants play. Lol

  176. Buddy Biancalana January 14th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    GB7-

    I mixed up Sharon Tate with Patty Hearst during that conversation we had about Charles Manson a while back.

  177. murphydog January 14th, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Pete:

    Feel better.

    Just think, in a couple of weeks it’s off to Florida, a new start, fresh grass, the crack of the bat and the sound of the ball smacking the glove. Of course then there’s the hearings, the grandstanding, the lawyers, the lies and more lies… Ah, never mind.

  178. Hideki Balboni January 14th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    The new stadium looks like a bad version of Comisky park, a dump surrounded by a parking lot. Not good.

  179. Boston Dave January 14th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    well said Clare… I would like to think that Selig and Mitchell will truly be on the hot seat tomorrow but I can’t see it happening. Mitchell has his ties to congress and over the years Selig has gained quite a bit of experience in weaseling out of stuff like this.

  180. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    I don’t remember that, Buddy. I have trouble remembering where I put my teeth.

  181. Old Yanks Fan January 14th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    note also above where i say that i will eventually forgive him as i have mcgwire, giambi and others.
    ———————————————
    Forgive me as this is very rude, but the response that comes immediately to mind is: That’s mighty white of you.

    alcohol and cigarettes and pot and cocaine are not peds
    ———————————————————
    Guess what? Neither is HGH. It states this right in the Mitchell report. MLB is SO anxious to get their Witches, they haven’t even done enough research on Steroids or HGH to know what they really do. Unless, of course, it’s the legal performance enhancing steroid called Cortizone.
    Cortizone: Good
    HGH: (whatever it does): Bad
    Their is so much hypocracy and santimony in this entire issue it’s disgusting.

    And Since Bud bears the majority of the responsibility for this issue, I guess you can’t even attend ballgames anymore (as Bud’s stink permeates all teams and fields).

  182. pat January 14th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    Feel better Pete.

    Can anyone give me the scoop on visiting Legends Field? I might be in the area for a day or 2 the first week pitchers and catchers report. Is that too early to go or is it worth the trip? Is there a workout schedule or is there a best time to go? Giving away my age by saying this but haven’t been to spring training since they were in Lauderdale!

  183. PAT M. January 14th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    I still have mixed emotions about the new park…..Wish they kept the rightfield overhang…..Played two American Legion All-Star games there in 1970…..The centerfield restaurant thing is bush league…..

  184. Old Yanks Fan January 14th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Oh…My… God.
    GreenBeret7 ate Moose!
    Can Pavano be far behind?
    Man… this guy is really tough!
    Is this how we want to deal with ineffective pitchers?
    Lets hope GreenBeret7 can eat all those extra innings also!
    (And IPK, you better hide your skinny little azz. You are barely one bite!)

  185. Clare January 14th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    pat,

    I’ve heard (and I think it was on here) that’s it’s worth going to spring training before the games start. You can watch the workouts for free. There’s a bullpen with five mounds, which I think would be cool.

    I’ve only been to Legends for games, so I don’t know what times the workouts are, but I’m sure you can find out (my guess would be mornings).

    I just got my tix for the first weekend’s games, so I’m psyched.

    And, if you’re in Tampa, try Cafe Ponte – one of my favorite restaurants outside of NY.

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  187. GreenBeret7 January 14th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    Old Yanks…it was a moose…related to Bullwinkle J….not even Chocolate Mousse. As far as Pavano…that’s more of the skunk family…bad road kill.

  188. pat January 14th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    Thanks Clare. Will keep Cafe Ponte in mind.

    From the NOW WHAT file, I just saw this about tomorrows hearing:

    Representative Tom Davis, the ranking Republican on the committee, said there would be some unexpected action at Tuesday’s hearing.

    “Be there at the beginning,” he said in a telephone interview. “It’ll be an interesting day. It’ll make some more news.”

  189. Clare January 14th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    pat,

    Where did you see that quote?

    I was starting to feel more hopeful after reading this SI article:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ml?eref=T1

    One of the telling things in the article was that some members of the committee didn’t see the point in having players testify at all – Great, so why don’t they let the players off the hook?

  190. Clare January 15th, 2008 at 12:07 am

    Nevermind, pat, I found the NYTimes article with Davis’ quote. The same article also said:

    “Representative Henry A. Waxman, the Democratic chairman of the committee, said in an interview Monday that Tuesday’s hearing was likely to occur, without major surprises.”

    Okay guys, which is it?

  191. i miss bernie January 15th, 2008 at 7:09 am

    oyf

    hgh is not a ped? that’ll be news to a lot of people, especially all the atheletes who are using it.

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