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	<title>Comments on: Pinch hitting: River Ave. Blues</title>
	<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/</link>
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		<title>By: Boston Dave</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-244027</link>
		<dc:creator>Boston Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-244027</guid>
		<description>McLovin,

I actually agree, to some extent, with your thoughts on Santana. You just do such a horrible job of presenting your opinons that you're never going to have any credibility.... and that's before considering your insults and sheer ignorance. You have a long way to go before you're going to convince anybody of anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McLovin,</p>
<p>I actually agree, to some extent, with your thoughts on Santana. You just do such a horrible job of presenting your opinons that you&#8217;re never going to have any credibility&#8230;. and that&#8217;s before considering your insults and sheer ignorance. You have a long way to go before you&#8217;re going to convince anybody of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243968</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243968</guid>
		<description>"If we keep Hughes okay but like many of these threads when someone says they want Santana and give up Hughes there called idiots."

yeah, see this isn't true at all.

there are many people here who argue this point intelligently, and while people disagree with them, they are never called idiots.

there is a completely different set of reasons for why everyone thinks you are an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we keep Hughes okay but like many of these threads when someone says they want Santana and give up Hughes there called idiots.&#8221;</p>
<p>yeah, see this isn&#8217;t true at all.</p>
<p>there are many people here who argue this point intelligently, and while people disagree with them, they are never called idiots.</p>
<p>there is a completely different set of reasons for why everyone thinks you are an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: McLovin</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243946</link>
		<dc:creator>McLovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243946</guid>
		<description>Of course we aren't giving both Hughes and Kennedy for that price but Hughes and Melky and Marquez is fine and The Twins are still asking for Reyes from the Mets so when there price goes down Hughes is worth the risk for Santana.If not then okay lets try the big three and 4 rookies bullpen guys.


And stop with the $150 millon contract he is in this market actually worth that but 6 years $135 million is worth that risk because this year you are stealing him for $13 million and when HGH Pettitte ($16 million),Balco Giambi($22 million),dead weight Mussina($11 million),Glassman Pavano($9 Million),this years setup man Fransworth ($5 million) would give way to a great future Hall of Famer next year.

But the point is Cano knows to compete this year without so many questions in our pitching staff and gambling like we had since 2004 we need a Ace and Wang isn't that.SAntana can give you 5 Hall Of fame years in the next 7 years thats worth a Maybe Ace in Hughes,a 4th outfielder in Melky and a future long man in Marquez.

THe Yankees are waiting for the price to go down.And it will.WE needed Santana the last 4 seasons.Cano is saying if Melky is traded at least Melky will play everyday so he really wants Santana not jusy likes him.


If we keep Hughes okay but like many of these threads when someone says they want Santana and give up Hughes there called idiots.WEll at least CAno also knows we need Santana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we aren&#8217;t giving both Hughes and Kennedy for that price but Hughes and Melky and Marquez is fine and The Twins are still asking for Reyes from the Mets so when there price goes down Hughes is worth the risk for Santana.If not then okay lets try the big three and 4 rookies bullpen guys.</p>
<p>And stop with the $150 millon contract he is in this market actually worth that but 6 years $135 million is worth that risk because this year you are stealing him for $13 million and when HGH Pettitte ($16 million),Balco Giambi($22 million),dead weight Mussina($11 million),Glassman Pavano($9 Million),this years setup man Fransworth ($5 million) would give way to a great future Hall of Famer next year.</p>
<p>But the point is Cano knows to compete this year without so many questions in our pitching staff and gambling like we had since 2004 we need a Ace and Wang isn&#8217;t that.SAntana can give you 5 Hall Of fame years in the next 7 years thats worth a Maybe Ace in Hughes,a 4th outfielder in Melky and a future long man in Marquez.</p>
<p>THe Yankees are waiting for the price to go down.And it will.WE needed Santana the last 4 seasons.Cano is saying if Melky is traded at least Melky will play everyday so he really wants Santana not jusy likes him.</p>
<p>If we keep Hughes okay but like many of these threads when someone says they want Santana and give up Hughes there called idiots.WEll at least CAno also knows we need Santana.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243935</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243935</guid>
		<description>"Quote from Cano.You keep forgetting to quote that."

yes, i get it.  

all Cano said is that he would love to have Johan Santana and that it would be bad for the Red Sox to have him.

every single person on this blog agrees with that.

ok, that is settled.

now, where here is we break from the world of hypotheticals and enter what we call "the real world".

in "the real world", the Twins want Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Melky Cabrera, and Jeff Marquez for Santana.  the Yankees would then, after giving away 2 of their top their 3 pitching prospects and their starting CFer, would have to give Santana a $150M contract.

this is something the Yankees don't want to do.  the price is too high.

since Robinson Cano is not an owner or the GM, he really doesn't care about such things.  he, like you, doesn't not consider the "real world" implications of acquiring Johan Santana.  all he knows is that he wants him.

who doesn't?

now, what is your point?  that the Yankees should base their decisions on what Robinson Cano thinks?  is your point that Cano thinks Santana is really good?

what is your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Quote from Cano.You keep forgetting to quote that.&#8221;</p>
<p>yes, i get it.  </p>
<p>all Cano said is that he would love to have Johan Santana and that it would be bad for the Red Sox to have him.</p>
<p>every single person on this blog agrees with that.</p>
<p>ok, that is settled.</p>
<p>now, where here is we break from the world of hypotheticals and enter what we call &#8220;the real world&#8221;.</p>
<p>in &#8220;the real world&#8221;, the Twins want Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Melky Cabrera, and Jeff Marquez for Santana.  the Yankees would then, after giving away 2 of their top their 3 pitching prospects and their starting CFer, would have to give Santana a $150M contract.</p>
<p>this is something the Yankees don&#8217;t want to do.  the price is too high.</p>
<p>since Robinson Cano is not an owner or the GM, he really doesn&#8217;t care about such things.  he, like you, doesn&#8217;t not consider the &#8220;real world&#8221; implications of acquiring Johan Santana.  all he knows is that he wants him.</p>
<p>who doesn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>now, what is your point?  that the Yankees should base their decisions on what Robinson Cano thinks?  is your point that Cano thinks Santana is really good?</p>
<p>what is your point?</p>
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		<title>By: McLovin</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243926</link>
		<dc:creator>McLovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243926</guid>
		<description>hmmm-


You forgot to Quote this with what I said before.


“”It’s a great deal if we can get Santana. We need it. We need a No. 1 guy like him. … If [the Red Sox] got Santana, they’re going to be a way better team. I hope we get him. It’s not a good idea for us if they get Santana”


Quote from Cano.You keep forgetting to quote that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm-</p>
<p>You forgot to Quote this with what I said before.</p>
<p>“”It’s a great deal if we can get Santana. We need it. We need a No. 1 guy like him. … If [the Red Sox] got Santana, they’re going to be a way better team. I hope we get him. It’s not a good idea for us if they get Santana”</p>
<p>Quote from Cano.You keep forgetting to quote that.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243912</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243912</guid>
		<description>"Yeah easy answer.Some dumb idiot like me says get Santana and you guys are like a pack of wolves but when one of the Great Yankees says we should get a Ace and you are speechless"

at least we agree on one thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah easy answer.Some dumb idiot like me says get Santana and you guys are like a pack of wolves but when one of the Great Yankees says we should get a Ace and you are speechless&#8221;</p>
<p>at least we agree on one thing.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243911</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243911</guid>
		<description>"Would he make a good 8th inning choice bridging to Mariano?"

he would.  

but i am sure the price to acquire him would be prohibitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would he make a good 8th inning choice bridging to Mariano?&#8221;</p>
<p>he would.  </p>
<p>but i am sure the price to acquire him would be prohibitive.</p>
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		<title>By: McLovin</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243909</link>
		<dc:creator>McLovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243909</guid>
		<description>hmmm-


Yeah easy answer.Some dumb idiot like me says get Santana and you guys are like a pack of wolves but when one of the Great Yankees says we should get a Ace and you are speechless.Funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm-</p>
<p>Yeah easy answer.Some dumb idiot like me says get Santana and you guys are like a pack of wolves but when one of the Great Yankees says we should get a Ace and you are speechless.Funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt in California</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243903</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt in California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243903</guid>
		<description>Now that the A's are dumping vets, what do you think about trading for Oakland's Huston Street? I know he had elbow trouble last year, but he has been a pretty effective late-innings reliever (sub-3.00 ERA anyway). Would he make a good 8th inning choice bridging to Mariano?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the A&#8217;s are dumping vets, what do you think about trading for Oakland&#8217;s Huston Street? I know he had elbow trouble last year, but he has been a pretty effective late-innings reliever (sub-3.00 ERA anyway). Would he make a good 8th inning choice bridging to Mariano?</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243896</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/15/pinch-hitting-river-ave-blues/#comment-243896</guid>
		<description>"Why didn’t you reply to what Cano said"

b/c i don't like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why didn’t you reply to what Cano said&#8221;</p>
<p>b/c i don&#8217;t like you.</p>
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