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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/16/pinch-hitting-true-yankee-blog/comment-page-5/#comment-244597</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Evoking, as it did, all the anger, frustration, and yes, nausea, of the late 80â€™s-early 90â€™s, which if youâ€™re old enough, Iâ€™m sure you can recall well enough to wish to forget.&quot;

yes, i am old enough to remember.  i just never got that sense from the Torre situation.  i have felt for 2-3 years that Torre&#039;s best years were behind him, and that change was inevitable and probably best for BOTH parties (i still do).  

i agree it could have been handled a little better, but at no point did i experience &quot;revulsion&quot;.  they made Torre a fair offer.  he declined.  in the end, Torre landed on his feet and the yankees kept all their free agents while bringing in the young, hungry manager they seemed to be needing these last few years.

we saw things a little differently, that&#039;s fine.  

Thanks for the reply Matt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Evoking, as it did, all the anger, frustration, and yes, nausea, of the late 80â€™s-early 90â€™s, which if youâ€™re old enough, Iâ€™m sure you can recall well enough to wish to forget.&#8221;</p>
<p>yes, i am old enough to remember.  i just never got that sense from the Torre situation.  i have felt for 2-3 years that Torre&#8217;s best years were behind him, and that change was inevitable and probably best for BOTH parties (i still do).  </p>
<p>i agree it could have been handled a little better, but at no point did i experience &#8220;revulsion&#8221;.  they made Torre a fair offer.  he declined.  in the end, Torre landed on his feet and the yankees kept all their free agents while bringing in the young, hungry manager they seemed to be needing these last few years.</p>
<p>we saw things a little differently, that&#8217;s fine.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the reply Matt.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Schweber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Schweber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Doreen, maybe I&#039;ll try to purchase a used copy on Amazon then.

Well, hmmn, that&#039;s how I felt about it at the time.  The decision disappointed me less the the manner in which the Yankees handled it enraged me.  Evoking, as it did, all the anger, frustration, and yes, nausea, of the late 80&#039;s-early 90&#039;s, which if you&#039;re old enough, I&#039;m sure you can recall well enough to wish to forget. 

The decision looked more ominous than it turned out to be. Thank God.  Hank is evidently wiser, more circumspect, rational, and self-aware than his Dad.

Still, I thought Torre deserved better.  If the Yankees wished to go in a different direction, they should have just announced as much.  I also thought Torre merited something like Gene Michael received when he resigned.   Some indefinite personal services contract or job in the broadcast booth.

Had they done that and Torre spurned them, I certainly wouldn&#039;t have lambasted them the way I did.

All that drivel about failing to attain the mission statement the Yankees pandered bothered me as well.  It made them appear petty, vindictive, and narcissistic, scapegoating Torre for failure the entire organization was responsible for. 

Did Torre&#039;s mismanagement of the bullpen exasperate me at times?  Of course.   

But look, I fundamentally like and admire the guy and probably identify with him far more than I should because it&#039;s largely a projection.  

I&#039;m still sorry he won&#039;t be around anymore, at least not in the Bronx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Doreen, maybe I&#8217;ll try to purchase a used copy on Amazon then.</p>
<p>Well, hmmn, that&#8217;s how I felt about it at the time.  The decision disappointed me less the the manner in which the Yankees handled it enraged me.  Evoking, as it did, all the anger, frustration, and yes, nausea, of the late 80&#8242;s-early 90&#8242;s, which if you&#8217;re old enough, I&#8217;m sure you can recall well enough to wish to forget. </p>
<p>The decision looked more ominous than it turned out to be. Thank God.  Hank is evidently wiser, more circumspect, rational, and self-aware than his Dad.</p>
<p>Still, I thought Torre deserved better.  If the Yankees wished to go in a different direction, they should have just announced as much.  I also thought Torre merited something like Gene Michael received when he resigned.   Some indefinite personal services contract or job in the broadcast booth.</p>
<p>Had they done that and Torre spurned them, I certainly wouldn&#8217;t have lambasted them the way I did.</p>
<p>All that drivel about failing to attain the mission statement the Yankees pandered bothered me as well.  It made them appear petty, vindictive, and narcissistic, scapegoating Torre for failure the entire organization was responsible for. </p>
<p>Did Torre&#8217;s mismanagement of the bullpen exasperate me at times?  Of course.   </p>
<p>But look, I fundamentally like and admire the guy and probably identify with him far more than I should because it&#8217;s largely a projection.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still sorry he won&#8217;t be around anymore, at least not in the Bronx</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash drafted Hughes before the 2004 but cash didnt gain power until his contract was renewed after 2005? You cant have it both ways. If so, Cash gets the blame for the ten or so major pitching blunders since then. Funny, how that was so conveniently left out. And where were the statistics to back the fact that he is THAT good of a GM? Besides our farm system getting much better (which didnt have much, if anything to do with the trades cash made last off-season) where are the trades and signings that make cash so brilliant in your eyes? That was a weak post- all opinions with nothing to back them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash drafted Hughes before the 2004 but cash didnt gain power until his contract was renewed after 2005? You cant have it both ways. If so, Cash gets the blame for the ten or so major pitching blunders since then. Funny, how that was so conveniently left out. And where were the statistics to back the fact that he is THAT good of a GM? Besides our farm system getting much better (which didnt have much, if anything to do with the trades cash made last off-season) where are the trades and signings that make cash so brilliant in your eyes? That was a weak post- all opinions with nothing to back them up.</p>
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		<title>By: Doreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Randy l&#039;s recommendation, I started to read Diamond Dollars.  I really had a hard time following some of it, and I&#039;m excusing that my saying I had too much on my plate at the time.  But I am loathe to try it again.  What I could follow was interesting, but a lot of numbers and graphs make my head spin.  Maybe I wasn&#039;t prepared enough for it.  It&#039;s been a l-o-o-o-n-g time since I read a textbook, and it was a little reminiscent of that.  Still, I&#039;ll try it again.  Going to Florida next weekend, so I&#039;ll bring it with me. 

I wonder if the slow start by the entire team last year has each of them thinking about getting off to a better start this season. The hiring of Girardi is probably coincidental.  Whatever the reason, I&#039;m glad that members of the team are motivated to show up on day one ready to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Randy l&#8217;s recommendation, I started to read Diamond Dollars.  I really had a hard time following some of it, and I&#8217;m excusing that my saying I had too much on my plate at the time.  But I am loathe to try it again.  What I could follow was interesting, but a lot of numbers and graphs make my head spin.  Maybe I wasn&#8217;t prepared enough for it.  It&#8217;s been a l-o-o-o-n-g time since I read a textbook, and it was a little reminiscent of that.  Still, I&#8217;ll try it again.  Going to Florida next weekend, so I&#8217;ll bring it with me. </p>
<p>I wonder if the slow start by the entire team last year has each of them thinking about getting off to a better start this season. The hiring of Girardi is probably coincidental.  Whatever the reason, I&#8217;m glad that members of the team are motivated to show up on day one ready to go.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this one:

http://theyankeesrepublic.blogspot.com/2007/10/little-men-of-bronx.html

&quot;The nausea has returned. Oh yes, after twelve years, it has reasserted itself, and with a vengeance.

The pettiness and the effrontery. The insolence and the vindictiveness. The cowardice and the malice. The insanity and the embarassment. Yankeeland has resurrected the age-old revulsion.

...

Four years after the tepid, disingenuous, eleventh-hour offer to Andy Pettitte that drove him to Houston; one year after refusing to extend the contract of their indispensable catcher, after declining to renew the contract of their immortal closer, after waiting until Spring Training to vouchsafe their still productive 16-year center-fielder a demeaning, non-guaranteed minor-league contract: Do these Little Men, after their affront to the manager Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, and Andy Pettitte consider a father figure, really believe their free agents will re-sign after the way they treated him-- will re-sign simply because the Little Men are prepared to offer them prodigious sums of money. No, even after Andy Pettitte himself fled to Houston in 2003 for much less because the Yankees&#039; disrespected him, the Little Men upstairs, evidently, still haven&#039;t learned their lesson.&quot;

come on, go back and read this entry.  the Yankees changed their manager.   they are a baseball team and they felt it was time to go with a new manager. that&#039;s it.  &quot;revulsion&quot;?  really?

i stand by my use of &quot;overwrought&quot;.  

the players obviously back my opinion, since everyone came back.  guess they weren&#039;t that nauseated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this one:</p>
<p><a href="http://theyankeesrepublic.blogspot.com/2007/10/little-men-of-bronx.html" rel="nofollow">http://theyankeesrepublic.blog.....bronx.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The nausea has returned. Oh yes, after twelve years, it has reasserted itself, and with a vengeance.</p>
<p>The pettiness and the effrontery. The insolence and the vindictiveness. The cowardice and the malice. The insanity and the embarassment. Yankeeland has resurrected the age-old revulsion.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Four years after the tepid, disingenuous, eleventh-hour offer to Andy Pettitte that drove him to Houston; one year after refusing to extend the contract of their indispensable catcher, after declining to renew the contract of their immortal closer, after waiting until Spring Training to vouchsafe their still productive 16-year center-fielder a demeaning, non-guaranteed minor-league contract: Do these Little Men, after their affront to the manager Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, and Andy Pettitte consider a father figure, really believe their free agents will re-sign after the way they treated him&#8211; will re-sign simply because the Little Men are prepared to offer them prodigious sums of money. No, even after Andy Pettitte himself fled to Houston in 2003 for much less because the Yankees&#8217; disrespected him, the Little Men upstairs, evidently, still haven&#8217;t learned their lesson.&#8221;</p>
<p>come on, go back and read this entry.  the Yankees changed their manager.   they are a baseball team and they felt it was time to go with a new manager. that&#8217;s it.  &#8220;revulsion&#8221;?  really?</p>
<p>i stand by my use of &#8220;overwrought&#8221;.  </p>
<p>the players obviously back my opinion, since everyone came back.  guess they weren&#8217;t that nauseated.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Schweber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Schweber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tampa &quot;brain trust&quot; signed Wommack, evidently, without Cashman&#039;s consent or even his consultation.  

I&#039;d like to believe Cashman never would been so foolish as to sign him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tampa &#8220;brain trust&#8221; signed Wommack, evidently, without Cashman&#8217;s consent or even his consultation.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to believe Cashman never would been so foolish as to sign him.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Schweber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Schweber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so that was you?  

&quot;My overwrought blog entry?&quot;  I wonder which one.  There are so many.  

But thanks, I appreciate the compliment of being read even by most vehement critics, especially when the critic is affiliate with &quot;no more.org&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so that was you?  </p>
<p>&#8220;My overwrought blog entry?&#8221;  I wonder which one.  There are so many.  </p>
<p>But thanks, I appreciate the compliment of being read even by most vehement critics, especially when the critic is affiliate with &#8220;no more.org&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Schweber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Schweber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so that was you?  

&quot;My overwrought blog entry?&quot;  I wonder which one.  There are so many.  

But thanks, I appreciate the compliment of being read even by most vehement critics, especially when they belong to nomore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so that was you?  </p>
<p>&#8220;My overwrought blog entry?&#8221;  I wonder which one.  There are so many.  </p>
<p>But thanks, I appreciate the compliment of being read even by most vehement critics, especially when they belong to nomore.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Schweber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Schweber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so that was you?  

&quot;My overwrought blog entry?&quot;  I wonder which one.  There are so many.  

But thanks, I appreciate the compliment of being read even by most vehement critics, especially when they belong to nomaas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so that was you?  </p>
<p>&#8220;My overwrought blog entry?&#8221;  I wonder which one.  There are so many.  </p>
<p>But thanks, I appreciate the compliment of being read even by most vehement critics, especially when they belong to nomaas.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I still see Tony Womack in my nightmaresâ€¦&quot;

what does Tony Womack have to do with Brian Cashman??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I still see Tony Womack in my nightmaresâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>what does Tony Womack have to do with Brian Cashman??</p>
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