Robertson’s deal good news for Wang
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 16, 2008 
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The Tigers avoided arbitration with Nate Robertson by signing him for three years and $21 million.
Robertson has more service time than Chien-Ming Wang. But he is 29-32, 4.33 over the last three years. Wang is 46-18, 3.74.
Arbitration figures will be exchanged on Friday. I would expect the Yankees to strike deals with Wang and Robbie Cano before it gets to a hearing. But if Nate Robertson is worth $7 million a year, what is CMW worth?
In this market, I’d be SHOCKED if he didn’t get 10 a year.
Pay the man what he’s worth and move on. This guy’s going to be solid as a rock for years to come.
10 a year seems about right. he might make the argument that pavano and mussina made 21.5 together and did less than he did. he would be right
Should we expect the cracked fingernail / skin blister problem to be a recurring one for Wang every year?
It’s a good thing we didn’t sign Santana. (half-joking)
actually mussina did more in the playoffs when it counts. wang is a choker and should be paid like one (minimum)
I agree that 10 milion a year sounds about right for a front end of the rotation guy. I think that would be a fair deal for both the Yankees and Wang.
imo, 10 a year seems a little much at this point. i’m guessing he’ll get more like 3/25M
How does Robertson pitch in the postseason?
Nate Robertson:
Year Round Tm Opp WLser G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H ER BB SO
+——+—–+—+—+—–+—+—+——+–+–+–+–+—–+—+—+—+—+
2006 ALDS DET NYY W 1 1 11.12 0 1 0 0 5.2 12 7 0 1
ALCS DET OAK W 1 1 0.00 1 0 0 0 5 6 0 3 4
WS DET STL L 1 1 3.60 0 1 0 0 5 5 2 3 3
+——+—–+—+—+—–+—+—+——+–+–+–+–+—–+—+—+—+—+
3 Postseason Ser 2-1 3 3 5.17 1 2 0 0 15.2 23 9 6 8
Erm, that was ugly
Gist of his 2006 postseason being:
ALDS: 5.2 innings, 7 earned runs, 12 hits, 0 walks, 1 strikeout
ALCS: 5 innings, 0 earned runs, 6 hits, 3 walks, 4 strikeouts
WS: 5 innings, 2 earned runs, 5 hits, 3 walks, 3 strikeouts
Wang’s going to get a big chunk of change. I don’t think the Yankees want to even step into the arb room since they treated him and positioned him as their #1 last year not to mention 2 19 win seasons.
I’m more worried about Cano being shown the money than Wang.
On a different note, how much better would you feel about the Yankee bullpen if they went out and signed Dotel and Jeremy Affeldt who are both still free agents?
Personally, I think we should go after Dotel to set up since we paid him all that money 2 years ago to rehab. No one is giving him closer money or guaranteeing him the 9th right now. He should be content to set up and contribute on a contender.
As for Affeldt, I would just like to have one lefty in the pen. He’s better than Henn.
Hmm, quick recap of starting pitcher contracts this offseason (ignoring options; using cbssports):
Brandon Backe (Astros) – 1 year/0.8 million
Matt Clement (Cardinals) – 1 year/1.5 million
Tom Glavine (Braves) – 1 year/8 million
Kuroda Hiroki (Dodgers) – 3 years/35.5 million
Greg Maddux (Padres) – 1 year/10 million
Andy Pettite (Yankees) – 1 year/16 million
Nate Robertson (Tigers) – 3 years/21.25 million
Mark Prior (Padres) – 1 year/1 million
Curt Schilling (Red Sox) – 1 year/8 million
Carlos Silva (Mariners) – 4 years/48 million
Josh Towers (Rockies) – 1 year/1.8 million
Kip Wells (Rockies) – 1 year/3.1 million
Dontrelle Willis (Tigers) – 3 years/29 million
Randy Wolf (Padres) – 1 year/4.75 million
Probably missed a couple of starting pitchers (for one, cbssports didn’t list the money amount on Mark Redman’s contract…ah well)
Its only his first year of arb, he wont be getting that much. The Tigers also over-payed the rest of Robertson’s arb years to get him to give up a year of FA
Tiger, Cubs, White Sox, Met will give Wang 4 year 44 millions if Wang is their home grown. won’t be surprised if Yankees give Wang 3.5M a year. Yankees always burn money in FA squeeze their farm.
Somehow, Wang still in Taiwan, he didn’t get his work permit yet, and after he got it, he need to wait for visa interview, after the interview, he need to wait for a least two more workdays, to get his visa to US, so the earliest, he will go to US, hope before late Jan…
But, it is hard for him to do the same thing this year, which he did last couple year: self training at fisher complex in AZ….. This year maybe go to Tempa directly…
~~ won’t be surprised if Yankees give Wang 3.5M a year. ~~
Sounds about right…
Wang blew the postseason… If he didn’t, he might get 5 mil
You don’t get $10M in your first year of arbitration unless you’re Miguel Cabrera or Alfonso Soriano.
I’m teaching my kids how to pitch. Robertson is a below average pitcher–career ERA+ of 94, WHIP of 1.411. And he gets 7 mil a year. Remarkable.
“Tiger, Cubs, White Sox, Met will give Wang 4 year 44 millions if Wang is their home grown. won’t be surprised if Yankees give Wang 3.5M a year.”
you don’t really understand the process.
Miguel Cabrera “ONLY” got 7 mil in his 1st year of arbitration …
and Robertson pitched better in the postseason than Wang did.
Wang’s postseason stats:
2005 ALDS: 6.2 innings, 1 earned run, 6 hits, 0 walks, 1 strikeout
2006 ALDS: 6.2 innings, 3 earned runs, 8 hits, 1 walk, 4 strikeouts
2007 ALDS: 5.2 innings, 12 earned runs, 14 hits, 4 walks, 2 strikeouts
His 2007 was horrible, but his 2005 and 2006 showed that he can do it. So I’ll chalk up his 2007 to stuff happens. Robertson on the other hand, went down, up, then not shabby during 2006′s postseason. And of course, he didn’t even pitch in 2007′s postseason. Who’s to say how he would’ve done?
Heck, look at how 2007′s AL Cy Young winner, CC Sabathia, did in the post-season…
ALDS: 5 innings, 3 earned runs, 4 hits, 6 walks, 5 strikeouts
ALCS: 10.1 innings, 12 earned runs, 17 hits, 7 walks, 9 strikeouts
Was Sabathia worth the 8.75 million he made in 2007? Some will say yes, some will say no.
Just learned from one of the Japanese media, that Wang among other 109 players file for arbitration
http://www.sanspo.com/sokuho/080117/sokuho004.html
CM Wang got his work permit just now, and will get his visa in a day or two. Should leave for US just before Chinese New Year. Might have a short self training period or skip it all together.