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	<title>Comments on: So, what to ask Bernie and Paulie?</title>
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		<title>By: johnnystorm02blog</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/26/so-what-to-ask-bernie-and-paulie/comment-page-1/#comment-248040</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnystorm02blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although they may not be welcome, lets not put &quot;autographs seekers and steroids dealers&quot; in the same class of undesirables Peter, not all autograph seekers are greed barons looking to make a buck selling their collectibles, and to be honest, if you do need to included autograph seekers for the sake of literal semantics, you may as well add sportwriters, because the reality is that if the players had it their way none of you would be welcome in the clubhouse/parties either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although they may not be welcome, lets not put &#8220;autographs seekers and steroids dealers&#8221; in the same class of undesirables Peter, not all autograph seekers are greed barons looking to make a buck selling their collectibles, and to be honest, if you do need to included autograph seekers for the sake of literal semantics, you may as well add sportwriters, because the reality is that if the players had it their way none of you would be welcome in the clubhouse/parties either.</p>
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		<title>By: li</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/26/so-what-to-ask-bernie-and-paulie/comment-page-1/#comment-247894</link>
		<dc:creator>li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that would be *amenities*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be *amenities*</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/26/so-what-to-ask-bernie-and-paulie/comment-page-1/#comment-247858</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;.249/.321/.367&quot;

if you don&#039;t think this is terrible from a guy with little to no defensive value, i am not going to argue with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;.249/.321/.367&#8243;</p>
<p>if you don&#8217;t think this is terrible from a guy with little to no defensive value, i am not going to argue with you.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow Matt, if only there wasn&#039;t this whole other half of the game where the players put on gloves and try to catch the balls hit by their opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow Matt, if only there wasn&#8217;t this whole other half of the game where the players put on gloves and try to catch the balls hit by their opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: Broken News !!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broken News !!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On condition of anonymity, Chuck Knoblauch is safely hidden in an undisclosed 5th Avenue building awaiting a November championship parade so he can see the No. 27 trophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On condition of anonymity, Chuck Knoblauch is safely hidden in an undisclosed 5th Avenue building awaiting a November championship parade so he can see the No. 27 trophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Schweber</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/26/so-what-to-ask-bernie-and-paulie/comment-page-1/#comment-247848</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Schweber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melky 2007-  .273/.327/.391  8 Hrs, 73 RBIs, 43 BBs, 545 ABs; RC/G = 4.3

Bernie 2005- .249/.321/.367 12 HRs, 64 RBIs, 53 BBs, 485 ABs;  RC/G = 3.8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melky 2007-  .273/.327/.391  8 Hrs, 73 RBIs, 43 BBs, 545 ABs; RC/G = 4.3</p>
<p>Bernie 2005- .249/.321/.367 12 HRs, 64 RBIs, 53 BBs, 485 ABs;  RC/G = 3.8</p>
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		<title>By: kimmiebruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimmiebruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

Sorry that I won&#039;t see you at MSU on Monday--I work there, but will be in Atlanta for the week.  If you need a great place for dinner, try Fascino on Bloomfield Ave!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>Sorry that I won&#8217;t see you at MSU on Monday&#8211;I work there, but will be in Atlanta for the week.  If you need a great place for dinner, try Fascino on Bloomfield Ave!</p>
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		<title>By: FYI</title>
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		<dc:creator>FYI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask Bernie.. about the following:

The Times has the best round up of the joint talk Brian Cashman and Theo Epstein held Friday night. I found this part on Bernie Williams and Joe Torre interesting:

Cashman took a few jabs at Bernie Williams, the popular Yankee whose exit from the team was not on friendly terms. Cashman said that Williams was terrible in 2005, but that he brought Williams back as a farewell in 2006. After Williams had a solid year, he wanted to return for 2007. But Cashman did not sign Williams. Cashman said that Williams&#039;s music career &quot;took away from his play.&quot; Interestingly, Cashman said that Joe Torre, who was then the manager, looked for ways to play Williams in 2006 &quot;ahead of guys who could help us win,&quot; so Cashman did not want that to happen in 2007.
Cashman got rid of Bernie rather than telling Joe how to manage his squad. That strikes me as the right thing to do as a GM. The manager is supposed to control the action on the field. If he&#039;s doing the wrong thing, either fire the manager or take away the player. (I think you saw the same thing with Miguel Cairo last season.) As Torre goes to the Dodgers, I wonder how much playing Bernie was loyalty to Williams or a desire to play veterans. Los Angeles fans should hope it&#039;s the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask Bernie.. about the following:</p>
<p>The Times has the best round up of the joint talk Brian Cashman and Theo Epstein held Friday night. I found this part on Bernie Williams and Joe Torre interesting:</p>
<p>Cashman took a few jabs at Bernie Williams, the popular Yankee whose exit from the team was not on friendly terms. Cashman said that Williams was terrible in 2005, but that he brought Williams back as a farewell in 2006. After Williams had a solid year, he wanted to return for 2007. But Cashman did not sign Williams. Cashman said that Williams&#8217;s music career &#8220;took away from his play.&#8221; Interestingly, Cashman said that Joe Torre, who was then the manager, looked for ways to play Williams in 2006 &#8220;ahead of guys who could help us win,&#8221; so Cashman did not want that to happen in 2007.<br />
Cashman got rid of Bernie rather than telling Joe how to manage his squad. That strikes me as the right thing to do as a GM. The manager is supposed to control the action on the field. If he&#8217;s doing the wrong thing, either fire the manager or take away the player. (I think you saw the same thing with Miguel Cairo last season.) As Torre goes to the Dodgers, I wonder how much playing Bernie was loyalty to Williams or a desire to play veterans. Los Angeles fans should hope it&#8217;s the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Schweber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Schweber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, neither #3 nor #4 are true, hmmn, but you&#039;ll have to wait for my post on my own blog to refute Cashman&#039;s assertions in full.  

Suffice it to say, for now, 

1) Bernie&#039;s numbers in 2005 actually didn&#039;t differ that much from Melky&#039;s in 2007, or Bernie&#039;s own in 2003.  They don&#039;t compare favorably with his best years but they&#039;re hardly &quot;terrible&quot;.  That&#039;s what happens when a player ages if he isn&#039;t using PED&#039;s; his skills decline, whether he works out or no.  Anyway, to call his 2005, &quot;terrible&quot; is at best, hyperbole and at worst, self-serving dishonesty.

2) Canard #2- Torre didn&#039;t play Bernie over better players in 2006.  Matsui and Sheffield suffered season-ending injuries, leaving Torre no alternative but to play Bernie most of the season.  And after the Yankees acquired Abreu on July 31, 2006, Torre still played Melky.  In fact, Melky accumulated 106 and 91 ABs in August and September, respectively, little different from the 98 AB and 99 ABS he had in June and July.

The notion that Torre, in 2006, &quot;played Williams ahead of guys who could help us win&quot; is an exercise in revisionist history.  
       
Once I post a piece of greater depth on my own blog, I invite you, if so impelled, to counter, of course. 

But thanks as always for the response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, neither #3 nor #4 are true, hmmn, but you&#8217;ll have to wait for my post on my own blog to refute Cashman&#8217;s assertions in full.  </p>
<p>Suffice it to say, for now, </p>
<p>1) Bernie&#8217;s numbers in 2005 actually didn&#8217;t differ that much from Melky&#8217;s in 2007, or Bernie&#8217;s own in 2003.  They don&#8217;t compare favorably with his best years but they&#8217;re hardly &#8220;terrible&#8221;.  That&#8217;s what happens when a player ages if he isn&#8217;t using PED&#8217;s; his skills decline, whether he works out or no.  Anyway, to call his 2005, &#8220;terrible&#8221; is at best, hyperbole and at worst, self-serving dishonesty.</p>
<p>2) Canard #2- Torre didn&#8217;t play Bernie over better players in 2006.  Matsui and Sheffield suffered season-ending injuries, leaving Torre no alternative but to play Bernie most of the season.  And after the Yankees acquired Abreu on July 31, 2006, Torre still played Melky.  In fact, Melky accumulated 106 and 91 ABs in August and September, respectively, little different from the 98 AB and 99 ABS he had in June and July.</p>
<p>The notion that Torre, in 2006, &#8220;played Williams ahead of guys who could help us win&#8221; is an exercise in revisionist history.  </p>
<p>Once I post a piece of greater depth on my own blog, I invite you, if so impelled, to counter, of course. </p>
<p>But thanks as always for the response.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pete,

Sounds like a tough life!  Have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pete,</p>
<p>Sounds like a tough life!  Have fun.</p>
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