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	<title>Comments on: Yankees watch as Santana goes to Mets</title>
	<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/</link>
	<description>A Yankees Blog by Journal News beat writer Peter Abraham</description>
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		<title>By: swo</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249330</link>
		<dc:creator>swo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249330</guid>
		<description>People talk about how the Yankees can handle a contract like Santana was demanding.

Now think about this for a second: It's 2015 in Yankee Stadium, and 50 million of the payroll is going to a 39 year-old A-Rod and 37 year-old Johan Santana.

The reason lower payroll is good is because it provides a team with FLEXIBILITY. Do you think the Yankees WANT to have a 200+ million dollar payroll? Do you think they want to carry a 22 million dollar first baseman with no glove and plenty of health issues? Or a 10 million dollar pitcher who is little more than a space heater? Of course not.

The Yankees should be able to handle some extra salary at the trade deadline if they find they need to make a deal. They shouldn't be handcuffed by 25 long-term contracts. Plus, they're better off NOT paying millions of dollars in luxury taxes that just end up going to Major League Baseball for who-knows-what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People talk about how the Yankees can handle a contract like Santana was demanding.</p>
<p>Now think about this for a second: It&#8217;s 2015 in Yankee Stadium, and 50 million of the payroll is going to a 39 year-old A-Rod and 37 year-old Johan Santana.</p>
<p>The reason lower payroll is good is because it provides a team with FLEXIBILITY. Do you think the Yankees WANT to have a 200+ million dollar payroll? Do you think they want to carry a 22 million dollar first baseman with no glove and plenty of health issues? Or a 10 million dollar pitcher who is little more than a space heater? Of course not.</p>
<p>The Yankees should be able to handle some extra salary at the trade deadline if they find they need to make a deal. They shouldn&#8217;t be handcuffed by 25 long-term contracts. Plus, they&#8217;re better off NOT paying millions of dollars in luxury taxes that just end up going to Major League Baseball for who-knows-what.</p>
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		<title>By: Juke Early</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249316</link>
		<dc:creator>Juke Early</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249316</guid>
		<description>Replying to Boston Dave re: ' NYY handling Santana '

Because it's not good to think otherwise. And basing past performance on future games is defeatist. I once respected almost all the other MLB teams. But after the last decade and a half of rampant anti-Yankee bias, coming from all directions, especially the media, I chose to be selective &#38; narrow too with my POV. 

MLB needs to be restructured in every facet. As that won't happen, I might as well just be a dumbass, my team right or wrong kind of fan. 

But thanks for asking. . ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replying to Boston Dave re: &#8217; NYY handling Santana &#8217;</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s not good to think otherwise. And basing past performance on future games is defeatist. I once respected almost all the other MLB teams. But after the last decade and a half of rampant anti-Yankee bias, coming from all directions, especially the media, I chose to be selective &#038; narrow too with my POV. </p>
<p>MLB needs to be restructured in every facet. As that won&#8217;t happen, I might as well just be a dumbass, my team right or wrong kind of fan. </p>
<p>But thanks for asking. . ..</p>
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		<title>By: Keith FL</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249261</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249261</guid>
		<description>We traded for David Cone and he was extremely valuable to the early dynasty...the Sox traded Hanley Ramirez and Sanchez for Beckett, think they love that trade now after winning another World Series?  We needed Santana, an ace there for us to acquire, why have we lost in the postseason the last 7 years.....pitching...why did we win the WS 4 out of 5 years..pitching...not offense, if they were so worried about the money, they should have let ARod go and don't start to say where would the offense be, who would play third...Boggs, Hayes, and Brosius come to mind..guys like that would have worked, they wanted their big name to sell tickets for the new stadium and break records in the Yankee uniform..we have him but no pitching...Cashman you have failed again when it comes to pitching, you wanted Kevin Brown, Vasquez, and Johnson..but get cheap when it came to Santana and he ends up with the Mets, you blew it and I guess we'll spend another year chasing the Red Sox and maybe the Tigers even though they have more of an all star line-up than we had when we lost to them in 06 and Leyland said we had too many stars....going in to the season with Pettite and Wang and 3 youngsters, it will be another long season of chasing..thanks Cashman and little Stein...might as well just hand the division to the Red Sox and lets look forward to Wang on opening day…he is a #3 pitcher at best…how can anyone feel confident in our starting pitching this year, Cashman you blew it and I hope you are no longer the GM after this year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We traded for David Cone and he was extremely valuable to the early dynasty&#8230;the Sox traded Hanley Ramirez and Sanchez for Beckett, think they love that trade now after winning another World Series?  We needed Santana, an ace there for us to acquire, why have we lost in the postseason the last 7 years&#8230;..pitching&#8230;why did we win the WS 4 out of 5 years..pitching&#8230;not offense, if they were so worried about the money, they should have let ARod go and don&#8217;t start to say where would the offense be, who would play third&#8230;Boggs, Hayes, and Brosius come to mind..guys like that would have worked, they wanted their big name to sell tickets for the new stadium and break records in the Yankee uniform..we have him but no pitching&#8230;Cashman you have failed again when it comes to pitching, you wanted Kevin Brown, Vasquez, and Johnson..but get cheap when it came to Santana and he ends up with the Mets, you blew it and I guess we&#8217;ll spend another year chasing the Red Sox and maybe the Tigers even though they have more of an all star line-up than we had when we lost to them in 06 and Leyland said we had too many stars&#8230;.going in to the season with Pettite and Wang and 3 youngsters, it will be another long season of chasing..thanks Cashman and little Stein&#8230;might as well just hand the division to the Red Sox and lets look forward to Wang on opening day…he is a #3 pitcher at best…how can anyone feel confident in our starting pitching this year, Cashman you blew it and I hope you are no longer the GM after this year!</p>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249232</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249232</guid>
		<description>However, the reporters fail to mention that McNamee’s lawyers previously said that McNamee never told anyone about Clemens’ steroid use. “Ward said that during the time McNamee injected Clemens with the banned substances, he did not tell anyone about it.” http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/sports/baseball/27clemens.html?scp=2&#38;sq=Ward+and+contemporaneous&#38;st=nyt

The same two reporters wrote both articles, but don’t note the discrepancy. Pretty shoddy work, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, the reporters fail to mention that McNamee’s lawyers previously said that McNamee never told anyone about Clemens’ steroid use. “Ward said that during the time McNamee injected Clemens with the banned substances, he did not tell anyone about it.” <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/sports/baseball/27clemens.html?scp=2&#038;sq=Ward+and+contemporaneous&#038;st=nyt" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/sports/baseball/27clemens.html?scp=2&#038;sq=Ward+and+contemporaneous&#038;st=nyt</a></p>
<p>The same two reporters wrote both articles, but don’t note the discrepancy. Pretty shoddy work, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249231</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249231</guid>
		<description>I keep forgetting that two links get your comment stuck in moderation.  So here it is in two parts:

I hate to keep bringing up the Clemens/steroids story, but there’s an article in the NYTimes that states that McNamee’s lawyers are saying that McNamee and Pettitte discussed Clemens’ steroid use. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/sports/baseball/30clemens.html?ref=sports</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep forgetting that two links get your comment stuck in moderation.  So here it is in two parts:</p>
<p>I hate to keep bringing up the Clemens/steroids story, but there’s an article in the NYTimes that states that McNamee’s lawyers are saying that McNamee and Pettitte discussed Clemens’ steroid use. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/sports/baseball/30clemens.html?ref=sports" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/sports/baseball/30clemens.html?ref=sports</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249230</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249230</guid>
		<description>I hate to keep bringing up the Clemens/steroids story, but there's an article in the NYTimes that states that McNamee's lawyers are saying that McNamee and Pettitte discussed Clemens' steroid use.  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/sports/baseball/30clemens.html?ref=sports

However, the reporters fail to mention that McNamee's lawyers previously said that McNamee never told anyone about Clemens' steroid use.  "Ward said that during the time McNamee injected Clemens with the banned substances, he did not tell anyone about it."  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/sports/baseball/27clemens.html?scp=2&#38;sq=Ward+and+contemporaneous&#38;st=nyt

The same two reporters wrote both articles, but don't note the discrepancy.  Pretty shoddy work, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to keep bringing up the Clemens/steroids story, but there&#8217;s an article in the NYTimes that states that McNamee&#8217;s lawyers are saying that McNamee and Pettitte discussed Clemens&#8217; steroid use.  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/sports/baseball/30clemens.html?ref=sports" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/sports/baseball/30clemens.html?ref=sports</a></p>
<p>However, the reporters fail to mention that McNamee&#8217;s lawyers previously said that McNamee never told anyone about Clemens&#8217; steroid use.  &#8220;Ward said that during the time McNamee injected Clemens with the banned substances, he did not tell anyone about it.&#8221;  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/sports/baseball/27clemens.html?scp=2&#038;sq=Ward+and+contemporaneous&#038;st=nyt" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/sports/baseball/27clemens.html?scp=2&#038;sq=Ward+and+contemporaneous&#038;st=nyt</a></p>
<p>The same two reporters wrote both articles, but don&#8217;t note the discrepancy.  Pretty shoddy work, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Kill-Schill(ing)</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249229</link>
		<dc:creator>Kill-Schill(ing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249229</guid>
		<description>"The whole point of this thread has been that people at BA don’t think Gardner is worthy of mention in the same conversation as Ellsbury."

I guess CB, you and I interpret "which is a stretch" differently and the significance of Manuel's additional comments that BG is a "championship-caliber CF."  

"A stretch" to me signifies a minor exaggeration.  That while the Yankees may have overvalued BG just a bit, Manuel nonetheless concluded he is still worthy of a mention in the same conversation with Ellsbury.  

In any case, whether Gardner is the centerpiece or not of a Yankees offer, I still refuse to believe the Yankees didn't have the wherewithal in their farm system to match Boston's offer without including Hughes.

And while your interpretation of the Twins intent may be correct for all I know-- I don't pretend to know what Bill Smith was thinking-- the early press reports at the time of the Winter Meetings disqualified the Mets because far from wanting the most from AL teams, the Twins were demanding the MOST from the NL team, the Mets, namely, a proven, major league all-star, Jose Reyes.  

Which suggests to me that the Twins weren't more leery of trading him to the AL, at least to the AL East anyway. 

It looks to me like Smith had to settle for the Mets package because that was the best offer available once the Sux withdrew Lester and the Yankees, Hughes.  Which still makes me believe the Yankees could have topped the Mets and the Sux offers by proposing some combination of four prospects from IPK, Jackson, Tabata, Horne, Marquez, or Gardner.   

Perhaps, Smith couldn't accept that deal and save face because it no longer included Hughes.   

But what angers me however is Pete's report that the Yankees didn't even bother to ascertain whether Smith would, that the Cashman made no offer at all.  Thus my first entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The whole point of this thread has been that people at BA don’t think Gardner is worthy of mention in the same conversation as Ellsbury.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess CB, you and I interpret &#8220;which is a stretch&#8221; differently and the significance of Manuel&#8217;s additional comments that BG is a &#8220;championship-caliber CF.&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;A stretch&#8221; to me signifies a minor exaggeration.  That while the Yankees may have overvalued BG just a bit, Manuel nonetheless concluded he is still worthy of a mention in the same conversation with Ellsbury.  </p>
<p>In any case, whether Gardner is the centerpiece or not of a Yankees offer, I still refuse to believe the Yankees didn&#8217;t have the wherewithal in their farm system to match Boston&#8217;s offer without including Hughes.</p>
<p>And while your interpretation of the Twins intent may be correct for all I know&#8212;I don&#8217;t pretend to know what Bill Smith was thinking&#8212;the early press reports at the time of the Winter Meetings disqualified the Mets because far from wanting the most from AL teams, the Twins were demanding the MOST from the NL team, the Mets, namely, a proven, major league all-star, Jose Reyes.  </p>
<p>Which suggests to me that the Twins weren&#8217;t more leery of trading him to the AL, at least to the AL East anyway. </p>
<p>It looks to me like Smith had to settle for the Mets package because that was the best offer available once the Sux withdrew Lester and the Yankees, Hughes.  Which still makes me believe the Yankees could have topped the Mets and the Sux offers by proposing some combination of four prospects from IPK, Jackson, Tabata, Horne, Marquez, or Gardner.   </p>
<p>Perhaps, Smith couldn&#8217;t accept that deal and save face because it no longer included Hughes.   </p>
<p>But what angers me however is Pete&#8217;s report that the Yankees didn&#8217;t even bother to ascertain whether Smith would, that the Cashman made no offer at all.  Thus my first entry.</p>
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		<title>By: i miss bernie</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249228</link>
		<dc:creator>i miss bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249228</guid>
		<description>YEAH MELKY AND PHIL ARE STAYING!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEAH MELKY AND PHIL ARE STAYING!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Biancalana</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249227</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Biancalana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249227</guid>
		<description>How do we know that Boston didn't offer Ellsbury, Lowrie &#38; 2 lower players, maybe they pulled Masterson.

IMO, the Twins didn't want to have to deal with facing Johan in the same league &#38; didn't want to risk the the extension falling through, where the Mets will pony up the $150M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we know that Boston didn&#8217;t offer Ellsbury, Lowrie &#038; 2 lower players, maybe they pulled Masterson.</p>
<p>IMO, the Twins didn&#8217;t want to have to deal with facing Johan in the same league &#038; didn&#8217;t want to risk the the extension falling through, where the Mets will pony up the $150M.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249226</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/01/29/yankees-watch-as-santana-goes-to-mets/#comment-249226</guid>
		<description>Perfect. Santana out of the AL but I'll still get to catch one of his games in NY, win win. I'll just have to pray for his arm to timely fall apart if we meet the Mets in Oct. Welcome to the east coast Santana!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect. Santana out of the AL but I&#8217;ll still get to catch one of his games in NY, win win. I&#8217;ll just have to pray for his arm to timely fall apart if we meet the Mets in Oct. Welcome to the east coast Santana!</p>
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