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Baseball America ranks the prospects

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 30, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Baseball America Prospect Handbook came in the mail today. Here is their top 30 for the Yankees:

1. Joba Chamberlain, RHP
2. Austin Jackson, OF
3. Jose Tabata, OF
4. Ian Kennedy, RHP
5. Alan Horne, RHP
6. Jesus Montero, C
7. Jeff Marquez, RHP
8. Brett Gardner, OF
9. Ross Ohlendorf, RHP
10. Andrew Brackman, RHP
11. Mark Melancon, RHP
12. Humberto Sanchez, RHP
13. Dellin Betances, RHP
14. Dan McCutchen, RHP
15. Kevin Whelan, RHP
16. Carmen Angelini, SS
17. George Kontos, RHP
18. Ivan Nova, RHP
19. Collin Curtis, OF
20. Jairo Heredia, RHP
21. Juan Miranda, 1B
22. Austin Romine, C
23. Francisco Cervelli, C
24. Dave Robertson, RHP
25. Mike Dunn, LHP
26. J.B. Cox, RHP
27. Mitch Hilligoss, INF
28. Scott Patterson, RHP
29. Edwar Ramirez, RHP
30. Zach McAllister, RHP

One lefty? … Keep in mind that these rankings are done based on how the player projects, not what he has accomplished in the minors. … The Yankees are fifth in their overall organization talent rankings. … It’s been a hard fall for Eric Duncan.

 
 

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187 Responses to “Baseball America ranks the prospects”

  1. Chris January 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    How do they rank Jackson 2nd and Tabata 3rd for the Yankees, yet put Tabata 22nd and Jackson 40th overall? Makes no sense. Does anybody know where the 4 Mets prospects stand in the top 50 or 100?

  2. Don January 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Has Eric Duncan really been that horrible?

  3. kd January 30th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Will the Yankees focus on LHP in the draft or just try to get the best player available?

  4. Shepherd January 30th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    The overwhelming abundance of RHP really bothers mean. RHP is the last we need, being that the next 6-10 years of our roation (hopefully) will be comprised of the righties Wang, Hughes, Wang, Kennedy. Plus, we don’t have any lefty relivers. Why would they draft so many righties??

  5. Shepherd January 30th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    bothers me*

  6. RangerRob January 30th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    kd..it’s always better IMO to take the best player available.

  7. Don January 30th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    The baseball draft is unlike any sport. You don’t draft for immediate need. You take the BPA.

  8. Don January 30th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Who cares if the pitcher is lefty or righty? You want them to draft a less talented pitcher because he is lefty?

    It makes no sense. Get the guy who has a better chance of contributing to the MLB ballclub at some point in his career. Regadless of which hand he throws with.

  9. rodg12 January 30th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Having a lefty for the sake of having a lefty is preposterous. Who was the dominant lefty in the BoSox World Series Rotation?

  10. Shepherd January 30th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    Good points in the draft Don.

    But still… 18 righties to 1 lefty. I don’t like that.
    A team doesn’t need a dominant lefty but all great teams have at least 1 sometimes 2 lefties in their roation. You can’t tell me that the lack of lefties doesn’t concer you at all!

  11. mike eff January 30th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    who was the overall # 1 guy if joba was #3?

    i hope it wasn’t laptops.

    does anyone know? pete?

  12. Shepherd January 30th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    whoa.. chill out louie bags. racists are not welcome on this blog..

  13. Shepherd January 30th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    I think it was Longoria from the Devil Rays. Don’t know anything about him tho.

  14. mike eff January 30th, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    yeah bags, that kinda talk is outrageous and unwelcome. beat it

  15. Don January 30th, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    If the best player available is lefty, sure..go ahead and draft him. But I don’t think you should just get one for the sake of getting one. I’m happy with the way things are.

    Maybe if Sabathia is a free agent next year, we’ll make a run at him.

  16. Jim PA January 30th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    You remember Eric- he was that first Duncan a long time ago.

  17. raymagnetic â„¢ January 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    “A team doesn’t need a dominant lefty but all great teams have at least 1 sometimes 2 lefties in their roation. You can’t tell me that the lack of lefties doesn’t concer you at all!”

    Doesn’t concern me one bit actually. What if the Yankees had 5 Joba Chamberlain like righties, would it concern you then?

  18. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    We still have Shelley :-D

  19. Don January 30th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    I looked at Duncan’s numbers. Definitely looks like the Yanks rushed him.

    Regardless, he will not be 24 until December and he is in AAA. This doesn’t warrant a Top 30 spot on the Yankee prospects’ list?

  20. mel January 30th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    The Yankees have assembled quite a stable of studs. Hank must be happy. Or not. lol.

  21. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge January 30th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Pete, Eric is my sleeper pick. I think Wilson will bomb out, and Eric will step up.

  22. Jeff NJ January 30th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    What a beuatiful list. We should all print this out as the greatest list of prospects ever in one organization! Unless I’m rating them too high.

    Peter could you give us two articles a day on each guy in the days between now and Spring Training? That shold definitely help these next 15 days until Ptichers and Catchers.

  23. Jeff NJ January 30th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Not much of a stretch but I would say IPK is my sleeper. The kid just gets good results. Doesn’t necessarly over-power but can occasionally. He just gets outs, reminds me of a young David Cone.

  24. Vader January 30th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    I believe the overall number 1 prospect is Jay Bruce from Cinncy, but I also think Bucholtz is number 2.

  25. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge January 30th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    We should make a list of everyones sleeper picks and see who is correct at the end of the season.

  26. Shepherd January 30th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    IPK i think could be as good as Hughes. He’s not a flame thrower. But has been looked at as a Mussina, and like Jeff said, Cone type player. He’s got his control down no need more more development. He can’t be called a sleeper because he’s going to be a big piece in the Yankees ’08.

    My sleep pick will be Humberto Sanchez! Fresh off that Tommy John and they say he’s rehabbing great. Look for a all-star break appearance that could re-up the bullpen and hopefully solve the set-up problem!

  27. Vader January 30th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Sleeper in what sense, who has made it to the big leagues…who has moved up the most in regards to where they started the season????

  28. frits January 30th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Pete, I think Louie Bags racist comment is a violation of the Terms of Service and would qualify him for an IP ban. That is just so offensive.

  29. Ben January 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Jeff, it’s a very good list, probably the best list of prospects the Yankees have had in a long time, and Cash and Damon Oppenheimer and his team should be applauded, but if you want to see a better list of prospects, check out the Rays, for example. The Red Sox, unfortunately, probably rank higher as well as more of their better prospects are in AAA and nearly ML-ready.

  30. Jaewon January 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    This isn’t really a sleeper pick but I have Melky having a complete breakout year.

  31. mike eff January 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    thanks for the info vader

  32. Ben January 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    My sleeper is whichever one of the guys who had TJ surgery last year who recovers their command the fastest.

  33. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge January 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Vader
    Sleeper pick as in who isn’t expected to contribute and you think will and will be successful.

    No one except me :) thinks that Eric will contribute.

  34. mike eff January 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    i like that sanchez pick shepherd. good choice.

    i’m looking for shelley to have a breakout year

  35. mel January 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    I heard that Jim Callis and 3 other guys did the prospect list. They were all high on Joba/Laps, but split right down the middle. Jim Callis was very pro-Laps and another guy was very pro-Joba. So it’s basically a virtual tie between the two.

  36. Boston Dave January 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Jeff NJ-

    I’d need to see the list but I imagine Tampa Bay has a superior top 30…

    Any guesses on how many of these 30:

    a) ever start in the majors
    b) play in an all-star game
    c) anything else we can think of?

  37. McLovin January 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Pete-

    I guess what I said is worse then what Louie Bags.Usually Pete and everybody tries to angry at me and call me a troll which I’m am but c’mon.

  38. Yazman January 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    It’s great to see this blog community rally against racist comments. I’m forgiving when such remarks are done out of ignorance but without ill intent. That doesn’t seem to be the case here unfortunately.

  39. Mark January 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    The Tampa Bay Rays have the best talent is because they always have the #1 pick in the draft. The have first dibs on everybody and pick the best player.

    The Yankees in my opinion have the better organizational talent than the Red Sox. Many people believe that Joba is better than Clay Bucholtz because of no velocity restrictions that Clay has. His fastball and slider almost max out, when Clay’s best pitches are low 70s. The Yankees best talent are also younger than the Red Sox’s. The Yankee prospects have more potential if you lined them up.

  40. Yazman January 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Jeff NJ, I love the list too, and welcome information about the youngsters. But it’s hard to say it’s the best of all time if it’s considered #5 at this time ;)

    So the Yankees have just 3 of the top 50, one more than what you might statistically expect? I’m surprised IPK isn’t in there too.

    Anyone have the MLB top 100 prospect lists from past years? I’m curious what % of top prospects make it, and what % make it big (e.g., all star). It sure is fun to learn about the next generation here.

  41. SteveNYG January 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    I think Angelini will crack the top 10 before the year is through, maybe even the top 5. All reports indicate we got a steal in the 10th round of last years draft. He had a full scholarship to college baseball powerhouse Rice, who rarely give out full scholarships, but were impressed by his skill set and his 3.95 GPA. He may be our future SS once the captain retires/switches position.

  42. mel January 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    McLovin,

    Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Good luck with your rehab program. ;)

  43. SteveNYG January 30th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Our organizational top 10 that is.

  44. SteveNYG January 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Yankees top 10 that is.

  45. Boston Dave January 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Boston has a better top 30 depending on who you ask (gammons, Phillips, bill simmons, jim caple, etc)

  46. Joe Buck ruins my life with his bad MLB/NFL playoff announcing January 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    No way Betances should be that low.

  47. Past Lists January 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Yaz-

    This is the link to the past Top 100 lists:

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....26983.html

  48. mel January 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Has there ever been such a drastic turnaround in such a short time as the Yankees have done in the past few years?

  49. Boston Dave January 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    No way buccholz is a better prospect than joba. No. Way. He may end up better, but he shouldn’t outrank joba right now.

  50. mel January 30th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Boston Dave,

    No hitter beats a miniscule ERA. Oh yeah, and his curveball is something wicked. lol.

  51. Greg Cohen January 30th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Interesting list, but I don’t know how Buchholz is better than Joba.

    It’s truly great to see what the Yanks have done to build up their farm, though.

    BTW here are a few more pics of the new stadium,

    http://slidingintohome.blogspo.....dates.html

  52. Josh January 30th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Ian Kennedy reminds you guys of David Cone?! Seriously? Are we talking about the same David Cone? Here’s an excerpt from The Neyer/James Guide to Pitchers:

    “Tom Candiotti: David Cone’s got one of the best repertoires I’ve seen a pitcher possess. He had phenomenal natural stuff. He never looked like a classic power pitcher – he wasnt a big guy – but he had a mid 90′s fastball with about eight different arm angles. He threw a frisbee slider that started out behind right handed hitters, yet could paint the outside corner with it. He was able to throw a curveball and a devastating splitter, so he was as tough on left handed hitters as right handed.”

    Meanwhile, IPK’s stuff is average (a tad above average if you’re generous) and succeeds with his high 80′s to mid 90′s fastball by locating his pitches from the same arm angle.

    David Cone was a dominant ace with filthy stuff and used deception to make it even better…I have no idea what you guys are thinking.

  53. raymagnetic â„¢ January 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    “No way Betances should be that low.”

    Betances has never pitched full season ball. Hopefully that changes this year and he becomes a stud. He’s a New York native like Sanchez so I’m hoping this year he starts living up to his potential.

  54. Josh January 30th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    i get it, just because they’re undersized and right handed…which makes it a pretty poor comparison if thats the only thing they have in common.

  55. THU January 30th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Jim Callis is even more biased against the Yankees than I am against the Red Sox. I got BA and its not worth the money.

  56. Vader January 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Mark Melancon or Dan McCutchen will be the two sleepers this year, with myself leaning more towards Melancon if he fully recovers.

  57. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    How is Andrew Brackman in the top 10 when he hasnt thrown a pitch yet and had to be shut down?

    sleepers of the year.
    Jennifer im with you on Duncan. His back was a huge problem the last couple years and with no expectations will shine.
    Also Horne.

  58. mel January 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    I know it’s cheating, but I’ll wait to hear what Jorge says. And Jeter. And Mariano. They’re pretty good talent evaluators.

  59. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Ohlendorf #9. I think thats a bit high.IMO

  60. NYPD113th January 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    “This isn’t really a sleeper pick but I have Melky having a complete breakout year.”

    – Really?

    I’d say that is a HUGE sleeper pick.

  61. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Jorge said 2 years ago that Hughes had the best stuff on the staff in spring training. I wonder if he feels the same way now that Joba and Kennedy on board.

  62. * * THEE BOSTON BUGLE * January 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    If you go by what Gammons says, Boston has nothing but high ceiling prospects in a system rich with talent.

    Until they get used in a deal….

  63. Greg Cohen January 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    S.O.S.27

    It’s like Peter said, this “is based on how the player projects, not what he has accomplished in the minors”

  64. NYPD113th January 30th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    “Jorge said 2 years ago that Hughes had the best stuff on the staff in spring training. I wonder if he feels the same way now that Joba and Kennedy on board.”

    - Nobody, anywhere, has ever said that Kennedy has stuff as good as Joba or Hughes, as much as some fans want to put him in the same category as them.

  65. saucy January 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    another list with another criterion that they won’t tell us…

    ZZZzzzzzzzzzzz….

  66. Nick January 30th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    The Yankees don’t need to make lefthanded pitchers a No. 1 priority in this year’s draft but the fact is the system shows few prospects in that area.
    The scouting department needs to find and draft the best available at least for the next 1-2 years.

  67. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    mel,
    I would disagree that a no hitter beats a miniscule ERA as the ERA is excellence over a longer period of time rather than 9 innings.

    And btw, I watched Bucholtz’s no hitter and there were some balls smoked in that game that were right at fielders and there were some web gems in the game as well. It was a great performance, no doubt, but Clay had some good luck along the way.

    And would you trade Joba for Clay straight up? Uh…No.

  68. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    NYPD,
    They compare him to a young mussina. I think that tells me that his stuff must be decent. Not to say that its better than the other two but good. Especially his control. Dont mind having a young Maddox on the team.

  69. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Gammons has roots in Boston. Take his opinion with a grain of salt.

  70. raymagnetic â„¢ January 30th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Whatever, I believe Mel was being facetious with her post about the no hitter and Joba’s ERA.

  71. raymagnetic â„¢ January 30th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    NYPD113th,

    People would take you more seriously if you tried adding something to the discussion instead of being the troll that you are.

  72. Greg January 30th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Cleveland could face a predicament with ace C.C. Sabathia. Being eligible for free agency after this season, the small market Indians have no intention of trading him and they might not have the money to sign him long term.
    GM Mark Shapiro said the team will try to sign him in spring training and when the season starts, keep the door open to signing him long term.
    Sabathia says he wants to stay in Cleveland but he likes the potential free agent market which stands to include few elite lefthanders.

  73. Say it ain't so January 30th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    Actually, Eiland has said on Yankees Mag and Hot Stove that Kennedy is the closest to being a finished product out of him, Joba and Hughes and that he has the best delivery and best arsenal of pitches out of the 3.

  74. whozat January 30th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    “Whatever, I believe Mel was being facetious with her post about the no hitter and Joba’s ERA.”

    Isn’t Mel a guy? Haven’t we established that before? Or…was it the other way around?

  75. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    raymagnetic’
    I blew through the comments and may have misconstrued mel.
    If so, mea culpa.

  76. whozat January 30th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    “Actually, Eiland has said on Yankees Mag and Hot Stove that Kennedy is the closest to being a finished product out of him, Joba and Hughes and that he has the best delivery and best arsenal of pitches out of the 3.”

    That makes a lot of sense, but it doesn’t mean he has the best stuff. It means that he has the best command of his stuff, the best polish.

    I’m hoping that Phil and Joba make strides with their changeups during ST, because I’m pretty sure those are currently their worst pitches — and even a decent one could go a long way to keeping hitters off their already impressive fastballs.

  77. Samples January 30th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    I’d like to see a refresh at mid season once the TJ guys (hopefully) bounce back.

  78. Say it ain't so January 30th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    I didn’t say it means he has the best stuff. But it doesn’t mean he’s on a lower level than Joba and Hughes.

  79. whozat January 30th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    “I didn’t say it means he has the best stuff. But it doesn’t mean he’s on a lower level than Joba and Hughes.”

    He’s on a lower level in terms of potential for dominance.

  80. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    Lets hope Cleveland starts off slow and become sellers. Maybe we could land C.C. for much less. Therefore bring smiles to the Johan fans.

    Hey whats up with blockquote? Damn that was the only good thing i knew how to do on a computer. Pete stop trying to fix things. Im wasnt complaining.Its all getting screwed up now.

  81. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Whozat,
    mel is a she. That is a fact and i will make that my FINAL ANSWER.

  82. Whatevered January 30th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Who is this Ivan Nova?

  83. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    Whozat -

    Mel is of the female variety. :)

    Josh -

    I’m glad you said what you did about Cone as compared to Kennedy. I did a double-take on that at first, but did not know quite how to put the differences. Good job. Cone was awesome and could really “bring it” when he had to.

    That being said, I think IPK is going to be very, very good. Not has much hype as Joba and Hughes, but I think that works for him – his pitching style is also low-key. I’ve said before, my husband thinks he may end up being the best of the lot. I don’t know that I agree 100%, but I do agree that he’ll be better than anticipated. But what I like about all three is their poise and the fact that they are non-plussed by pitching for the New York Yankees, while other more “mature” pitchers have fallen apart (Ed Whitson, Jeff Weaver, anyone?).

  84. mel January 30th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    lol, guys. It’s me. Mel, not Melvin. And yes, I was being facetious. It doesn’t matter what Jim Callis thinks. Joba rocks. I didn’t see what’s his face being ESPN’s Next.

  85. Search Man January 30th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    How good is this LHP and based on fastest to get to the major leagues Who are the top 5 (not including Joba or IPK)?

  86. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    Nice to see 3 catching prospects in the list!

  87. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Whatevered,
    Ivan Nova was signed by the Yanks out of the DR in 2004. He’s said to have great stuff but needs to learn how to pitch.

    BTW, I like your name.

  88. dan January 30th, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Search Man–

    Ohlendorf
    Gardner
    Horne
    Miranda
    Edwar Ramirez
    Scott Patterson

    Of course the order depends on what they need, and when they need it, but those are the 6 (if you really want 5, then get rid of Patterson) closest to the bigs besides Joba/IPK.

  89. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    SAHM(copyrights of the initials go to you for the simple reason you taught me the meaning and my wife now knows it)

    I agree with your husband and i know we’re in the minority. I also think Kennedy is going to be better than the other two. I think he had better overall numbers in the minors than both Joba and Phil. I could be wrong. But i just think he knows how to PITCH and will surprise a lot of people that are looking past him.

  90. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    Mel…is that short for..uh…Melanie?

  91. dan January 30th, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    Mike Dunn is a recently converted outfielder….he’s not bad but is very far from reaching the majors. If he flies through the system, he’d be there in September 2009 at the absolute earliest

  92. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    whatever,
    I tried guessing(melanie)and never got the response. You are better off asking her to blink once for yes.

  93. Buddy Biancalana January 30th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    mel is not short for melanie or melissa, keep guessing…

  94. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    dan,
    I am a little worried about Ramirez. I hope he took some weight gainers in the offseason and can get his fastball up. It was either a strikeout or he would get hit hard last year. Hitters would just sit on his 80′s fastball and crush it. Hope he succeeds.

  95. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    Buddy,
    Now that hurts. Are you telling me that she actually told you what it was and not me? How did you get her to tell you slick?

  96. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    S.o.S.
    I’ll keep that in mind. Some people are reluctant to give out too much info on the net. I, for instance, only give out my home phone number on very rare occasions…lol.

  97. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Whatever,
    WOW! Giving out your home number? Thats going a bit too far if you ask me. I wont go past my social. And thats just to the special bloggers who are in my circle of trust. But never my phone number.lol

  98. Buddy Biancalana January 30th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    S.o.S-

    I tried guessing awhile back & her answer was no, but you will guess it sooner or later. So think about it there is one more, & you will most likely get it. She is by far the most knowledgeable female sports fan I have ever came across. I was actually shocked she was a woman & I mean that in the highest compliment possible.

  99. mel January 30th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    Guys, please. I’m dying to tell you everything. But I’m in witness protection, and my handler would absolutely KILL me. We’d have to pack up the family and they don’t want to do that again. My big mouth has cost us 5 relocations. :)

  100. mel January 30th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    Buddy, flattery will get you everywhere!

  101. Shepherd January 30th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Do any of you guys also post on Bryan Hoch’s yankees.com blog or am I the only one?

  102. Buddy Biancalana January 30th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    mel-

    You need to work on your sense of humor though! Seriously! Just Kidding! Lol

  103. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Buddy,
    OK, not Melanie. Uh..Melba? How about Melinda? Mmmm…Melita? What about Melvina? I’m racking my brain….uh…Meliffany? Am I getting close?

  104. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    buddy,
    Just when i try to get out. You guys pull me back in. Im going to go in the net and look for female names that start with those 3 letters(wont mention them for mels witness protection sake). Just throwing this out there Melody? Dont even know if iv met one before.

  105. saucy January 30th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    Melido?

  106. Buddy Biancalana January 30th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    I actually don’t know for sure, but let’s say you are closer than you think.

  107. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    buddy,
    There is a few girls in here that are knowledgable. mel(a laker from l.a.),Doreen(sahm),jennifer(hip hip), help me out here mel.

  108. Ryan January 30th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    Anyone else hear Buster on Sportscenter say the Twins wanted Kennedy and Wang Monday night?

  109. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    buddy,
    Whos closer? What the hell does “i actually dont know for sure mean”? Is that like almost pregnant? Seriously.

  110. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    The mel-odrama of finding out mel’s given name has got me on needles and pins.

  111. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    saucy,
    Who are you picking for the super bowl. We have to get it right sooner or later. I think its the Rams vs. Pats game all over again. Giants shock the world. A blind squirrel finds a nut sometime.

  112. Buddy Biancalana January 30th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    S.o.S-

    Agreed on many knowledgeable women here. I think mel prefers to stay on the DL, or is it LD? Jk

  113. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    whatever,
    CLASSIC!! Hillarious.

  114. Boston Dave January 30th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

    does anyone know when single game yanks tickets go on sale? or did i already miss the boat?

  115. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 30th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    SoS: I’m not knowledgable? =(

  116. saucy January 30th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    sos, i want the giants to win and think they will.

    i got an eli jersey for christmas. ever since he’s been the good eli, as the next game was the final regular season game. i am superstitios about watching sports.

  117. Old Ranger January 30th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    Why knock IPK…
    I realize many of you have only seen IPK in the ML. I saw him about 5/8 times in the MIL as well as the big show. He is very very good. I honestly believe if a batter had a cup of coffee in his hand, IPK could knock it out of his hand 7 of 10 times…with any pitch. It isn’t the stuff that makes a pitcher (see: Farnsy) it’s the control with witch he throws the stuff, along with the smarts when to throw it. As some have said before, you will like this kid and will remind one of Moose. 27/08.

  118. mel January 30th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    SoS,

    Don’t mess with Rebecca. She’s an expert in swords and medieval weaponry.

  119. Boston Dave January 30th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    Old Ranger,

    I agree. He looks like he could be really good.

    problem is… yanks fans are anointing all of the prospects way too early.

    Hughes and Joba = HOF
    Kennedy = All Star
    Tabata and AJax = All Stars
    Horne = solid #3

    etc…

    Gotta take it all in stride and stay both optimistic AND realisitc.

    I do like IPK though…

    perhaps the best part for fans of the big 3 are that they all seem to be professional, modest, and hard working. they are all easy to root for. there are no scumbag josh beckett types in this group.

  120. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    Sorry Becca,
    Yes you are. Im sure im forgetting others. My bad. Forgive me for forgetting a regular. Wont happen again.

  121. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    If the Giants win I’ll be whistling a fine mel-ody, but if the Pats win, I may have a mel-tdown, and will surely be feeling mel-ancholy for weeks. However, with spring training and warmer weather on the horizon, I’ll soon be feeling very mel-low.

  122. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    saucy,
    Im with you. Last year i wore a COLTS hat and jersey through out the playoffs and we won. This year i slipt my mind and colts were one and done. Get your jersey ready. Hope you it has one more win in it.

  123. Buddy Biancalana January 30th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    mel-

    I believe you are being serenaded. Very mel-odramtic.

    Pretty, pretty funny Whatever!

  124. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    mel,
    Its your fault. I asked you for assistance. But once again i got left out to dry.

    whatever,
    You are making people like me not be able to post anything funny on this blog again. I feel like a mel-lon. Keep em coming.

  125. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 30th, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    SoS: =D makes me feel better!

  126. mel January 30th, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    Buddy, the mellifluous talk is music to my ears!

  127. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:00 pm

    SoS,

    It’s not my fault you’re such a melonhead!

  128. S.o.S.27 January 30th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    mel,
    Our friendship is mel-ting away!

  129. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    Thanks for the compliment – but I defer to Rebecca and Mel who are knowledgeable in many sports — baseball in my limit! (But I will watch some football, tennis and college basketball).

  130. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 30th, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    Doreen: Mostly baseball and hockey on my end.

  131. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Doreen,

    Don’t be so modest. You’re the resident cheerleader.

    Baseball talk. Who starts @ 1B on opening day?

  132. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Doreen,

    That sounded bad. Cheerleading is a serious sport. Can you believe they give cheerleading scholarships?!

  133. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Good question. Who are they playing and who would be pitching?

  134. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    O.K. I’ll hazard a guess. Jason Giambi will be the opening day 1B. Ya know. $20M and all that.

  135. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 30th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Doreen: don’t know, and we probably won’t know till spring training shapes up.

    Mel: I wanna be the resident something-or-other!

  136. Buddy Biancalana January 30th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Rebecca-

    You are the resident Optimist!

  137. Jeff NJ January 30th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Speaking of the Giants, isn’t it about time for Mr. Clairvoyant Abraham to give us his Official Super Bowl NE-NYG Score. Mine is Giants 35, New England 31. I just missed the GB score by one point. I had said 24-20, it was 23-20.

  138. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Wang will be pitching against Toronto.

  139. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    I have visions of laying in bed tonight, unable to sleep as I turn over possible names in my mind…uh..Meliora?…no…Melantha?..probably not…hey, Melisande?…what about Melosa?…hmmmm, doubtful….wait, I’ve got it! MELANGELL!! Yeah, that’s got to be it! Right?!

  140. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    Mel -

    No offense taken. And when I was a cheerleader is was not a serious sport. No pyramids, you know? But today, they’re not really about cheering for a team so much – they’re about their own competition. I’m not sure that’s a bad thing – just the shouldn’t call it cheerleading. It’s combination dance and extreme gymnastics plus a little (a lot) of curly ponytails. It’s like they want to be a legitimate sport, but can’t let go of the girly-girl stereotype. It’s as much about the cute outfits, matching hairties and embellished socks as it is about the actual skill involved. And the girls are more athletic. And that they compete for themselves rather than cheer for boys’ teams is a great thing. But then they are no longer cheerleaders, even if they do allow a boy or two to get involved. And then as they get older and bare more skin, aren’t they back where they started? Sexual beings who can’t really compete so they stand on the sidelines of a men’s competition, getting attention by “being cute.”

    Oops – was that a rant????

  141. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    Could be Polynesian. Remember Bronson Sardinha’s name? Talk about alphabet soup.

  142. Peter Abraham January 30th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Jeff: The SB prediction post will be soon. Probably Friday.

  143. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Doreen,

    Remember the Texas Cheerleader Mom? lol.

    I was a wee bit jealous of cheerleaders in high school.

    Nowadays it’s easier to get a cheer scholarship than a gymnastics one. And the cheerleaders have horrible tumbling form. Oops-was that a rant????

  144. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    If Matsui is DHing, then Giambi is at first.

  145. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    Mel,

    Are you serious about cheer scholarships being easier to get than gymnastics? That’s just ridiculous.

  146. OldYanksFans January 30th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    Sexual beings who can’t really compete so they stand on the sidelines of a men’s competition, getting attention by “being cute.”
    ——————————————————–
    Are you implying this is a bad thing?

  147. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Mel -

    I guess it’s about having high visibility. At Rutgers Univ, they’ve eliminate a lot of traditional, yet non-popular sports altogether in favor of spending more money on their football program, for one.

  148. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Rebecca,

    I’ve thought about it. And you are definitely the Resident Angel. But with your red hair, you’re probably a little devilish, too.

  149. NYPD113th January 30th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    “NYPD113th,

    People would take you more seriously if you tried adding something to the discussion instead of being the troll that you are.”

    – Somehow I will try to go on ray. ;)

    BTW, I believe the “young Mussina” projections are some Yankee homerism mixed in with kennedy’s ceiling. The absolute best case scenario puts him there, a realistic expectation puts him at a #3.

  150. Blargh January 30th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    “At Rutgers Univ, they’ve eliminate a lot of traditional, yet non-popular sports altogether in favor of spending more money on their football program, for one.”

    The sad part is that I can’t name the programs that got hacked off, and this happened around my Junior or Senior year

  151. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    OYF -

    Yes. :)

  152. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Title IX has a lot to do with cuts. Many colleges don’t have mens soccer because of gender equity.

  153. Central Ct Yankee January 30th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Shelly Duncan takes you into his home Coming up On YES

  154. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Blargh -

    I think one of the cuts was the swim team. And crew?

    What I don’t really understand is that those kinds of sports are olympic sports. So am I to understand that the truly elite athletes are all privately trained now, so that only the second tier athletes compete on a collegiate level? While with football, the way to success is directly through college?

  155. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 30th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    mel–You do know I am a HUGE Devils fan, aye? =P

    (The things you don’t know about me…)

    Anyways, I know Syracuse is cutting swimming and diving for ice hockey, but imo it’s about time we have a hockey team.

  156. whozat January 30th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    “a realistic expectation puts him at a #3.”

    Oh no! A 22 year old #3 starter that’s under team control for six years!

    Please, save us from this horror!

  157. Moose Jab January 30th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    From the AP,
    Responding to Burress’ comments, Brady predicts 50-3 rout of Giants

  158. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Rebecca –

    At least that makes sense. I wouldn’t think of Syracuse as a swimming/diving mecca! But hockey is a natural.

  159. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Central,

    I’m thinking Frathouse Chic. With a Bowflex forearm machine. Let us know what it looks like.

  160. Blargh January 30th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Ah, there we go, from here: http://ur.rutgers.edu/medrel/v.....cleID=5251

    “Six intercollegiate sports – men’s heavyweight crew, men’s lightweight crew, men’s fencing, women’s fencing, men’s swimming and diving, and men’s tennis – will be phased out after their 2006-07 seasons. ”

    Hmm, go fig, happened later than I thought (class of 2007 here)

  161. Central Ct Yankee January 30th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    He has a crib with his Bro Chris in Tuscon…Two Master Bedrooms..Poker table, dart board, 42″ Plasma to play guitar hero. Pretty much sums it up. And says he’ll be seeing us soon!!!

  162. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Polynesian? Possibly French Polynesian? Hah, this narrows it down. Isamel…or….could it be Melette?…I once knew a girl from Paris named Melette, but that’s another story.
    Anyway,..ummmm…French…french…french…Oh boy! It’s over! I got it! Melique! Tah Dah!!

  163. mel January 30th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Moose,

    I think you’ve got the wrong report. He said that the only thing he can predict accurately is that Brett Favre will be undecided about his retirement.

  164. Winfield killed my seagull January 30th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    Which of the two cathcers projects to be with the club? Romine or Montero?

  165. pat January 30th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    Frathouse Chic was a pretty good guess. Big leather couch, poorly made bed, movie posters on the wall, a few very large flat screens and earth tone colors to cover dirt from showing as far as the eye could see.

    and

    I guess Mel’s name has a “K” in it.

  166. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    pat,
    OMG, it was so obvious. A “K” in it. MELKY!!!!!

  167. Central Ct Yankee January 30th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Anybody else find this funny?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2triiYXSY8

  168. Jennifer - Save Phil Hughes! January 30th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    http://slidingintohome.blogspo.....pdate.html

    New pics!! I didn’t realize we were doing the split upper deck

  169. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    So Melky is French Polynesian. Well, whaddyaknow.

  170. Jeff NJ January 30th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    NYPD, I would just say that while I may be over-rating IPK, it is possible you are under-rating him as well. I picked him to be my sleeper, because the expectations of him are pretty low. Be a number 3, occasionally hit 92, be a possible Mussina (who no one is maistaking for a hall of famer).

    The truth is, it if wasn’t for the unstoppable Joba train (his best buddy by the way), we would all be amazed at how fast IPK went from little known USC pitcher who is just 23 years old, to top major league prospect.

    In my opinion, he should be higher on this list than the two OF prospects, neither have which have mastered AA. Granted they may be here in Sept to back up but IPK is here from day one, probably penciled in as your number 5 starter.

  171. Whatever January 30th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Thank God this Santana business is finally coming to a close.
    Back here in Northern Iowa is Twin’s country and believe me, none of the Twins fans at work are smiling about this deal.

  172. Doreen January 30th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Central Ct Yankee

    You forgot the karaoke machine!

  173. Joe Buck ruins my life with his bad MLB/NFL playoff announcing January 30th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    scout.com ranks these better

  174. whozat January 30th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    “In my opinion, he should be higher on this list than the two OF prospects, neither have which have mastered AA”

    And that’s all about whether you value projection or probability more. I like the 1-10 A-D system, where the number denotes ceiling and the letter denotes probability of reaching it (or maybe it’s the other way around). So, Joba would be a 9B (All-star potential, excellent chance of getting there). Ian would be an 8B (good major leaguer, excellent chance). Tabata or Jackson would be like…a 9C. All-star potential, but maybe a 70% chance of getting there, because they are so far away.

  175. whozat January 30th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    Is that the Sickels method I’m talking about there? Anyone know?

  176. Kill-Schill(ing) January 30th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Anyone know how the Yankees plan to allocate seats in the new stadium. I’m a B package in Tier Reserve and I’m already planning on getting screwed.

    What’s the rumor on how the Yankees determine whether you retain your seat assignment or not? ANyone have a clue?

  177. Brian M January 30th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Winfield – both catchers project very well, catching has become a real area of strength for the Yankees. Montero is a real masher with serious HR power. His only troubles are being nimble enough behind the plate. Initially most people thought it inevitably he would move to 1st base, but I’ve heard a lot of reports on how much he has progressed this year. He also seems to be a hard worker and lost a lot of weight since he signed which has obviously helped.

    Romine seems to be a solid all rounder from what I can gather who could well end up in NY. It would be interesting to see them splitting time there and keeping fresh as a result, perhaps with Montero also seeing some time at 1st or DH.

    There are several other catchers in the system who are also pretty good. Cervelli is getting some good reviews and looks like he should at the very least be a very solid back up. Ahead of him in terms of readiness is P.J. Pilittere. He looks like he probably has a lower ceiling, but again is a solid enough option should Molina pick up an injury.

    Further down the system our 6th rnd pick form last yr Chase Weems could be a good sleeper pick. He seems to have a great bat and decent arm but needs to work on other things defensively. He seems so have fallen in the draft due to concerns about signability (we really did well with position players in the later rounds and internationally last yr)

    And last of all Kyle Anson is a converted 3rd baseman with an absolute cannon arm and amazing catch and throw footwork. He is new to the position so has a lot to learn but his intstincts seem to give him a head start although his offense has been pretty weak.

    Shepherd, I think you have a point about the lefties, there is such disparity that it leaves the cupboard so bare for lefties. The consolation is that the policy of taking the best arm available has meant that a lot of righty prospects are turning out really well.

    Some trades could well be in the future I think. We have more righty starters than spots and need a lefty reliever for next yr. I know he is coming back from TJ surgery right now but I’d love to see us go after Gonzales form Atlanta. They have resigned Soriano to close and I would love to see a Sanchez/ Melancon / Gonzales bridge to Mo. We have to move some pitchers next yr just because we don’t have spots for them and Atlanta needs some starting pitching.

    With Veras, Ohlendorf, Robertson, Britton, Edwar, Horne, White, Albaladejo and Whelan all in the mix for the pen at some point over the next yr, we have both depth to trade and an amazing and dirt cheap pen to look forward to. These savings and the $70M+ coming off the books this summer must make us major players in the Sabathia and Texiera races – covering 1st base and lefty pitching, or two only organizational weaknesses.

    And before we know it Garcia, Heredia, Nova, Betances, Brackman, McCutcheon, and McAllister will be knocking on the door. Then we will really have competition for spots. Happy days ;)

  178. Kill-Schill(ing) January 30th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    I’m please to hear there are more women who frequent this site than I originally thought.

    Makes me feel less like I haven’t grown out of my “eating club” days during which I spent half my time drinking beer and the other half arguing about sports and politics.

    “I can’t get married I’m a 30 year old adolescent”– Fight Club.

  179. OldYanksFans January 30th, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    “Be a number 3, occasionally hit 92, be a possible Mussina (who no one is mistaking for a hall of famer). ”
    ——————————————————–
    Unfortunately, you contradict yourself.
    Yes, IPK could become an above averge #3.
    Yes, he resembles Moose in his ‘look’.
    But Moose was a #1, had more pitches, and when younger,
    and a much better fastball.
    So IPK could be ‘Moose Lite’, but I don’t think he will be as good as Moose (who DOES meet a lot of HOF criteria).

    But you are correct that a cost controlled #3 is valuable, especially on a staff with Wang, Phil and Joba!

    And Doreen thinks being ‘cute’ and a ‘sex object’ is a bad thing. Isn’t that sad?

  180. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Save the Three Musketeers! January 30th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    oldyanksfan: You’re clearly not a 21 year old college female…

  181. Kill-Schill(ing) January 30th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Didn’t Moose throw a 94-95 mph fastball when he started for Baltimore? He once had nasty, nasty, stuff.

  182. Central Ct Yankee January 30th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Kill-Schill(ing)

    I heard a Rumor that we will hear something in late June or Early July about seat allocation. I have had plan C since 97. I hope not to get screwed either.

  183. Kill-Schill(ing) January 30th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Thanks Connecticut Yankee.

  184. OldYanksFans January 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    oldyanksfan: You’re clearly not a 21 year old college female…
    ———————————————————-
    No…. but I WANT to be one.

  185. OldYanksFans January 30th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Hey wait!
    My daughter is a 21 year old college female…
    Well… actually she’s 20, but close enough.

  186. OldYanksFans January 30th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    well…. at least she TELLS me she’s in college.

  187. Herman January 31st, 2008 at 3:25 am

    No Phil Hughes?


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