Baseball America ranks the prospects
-
- January
- 30
The Baseball America Prospect Handbook came in the mail today. Here is their top 30 for the Yankees:
1. Joba Chamberlain, RHP
2. Austin Jackson, OF
3. Jose Tabata, OF
4. Ian Kennedy, RHP
5. Alan Horne, RHP
6. Jesus Montero, C
7. Jeff Marquez, RHP
8. Brett Gardner, OF
9. Ross Ohlendorf, RHP
10. Andrew Brackman, RHP
11. Mark Melancon, RHP
12. Humberto Sanchez, RHP
13. Dellin Betances, RHP
14. Dan McCutchen, RHP
15. Kevin Whelan, RHP
16. Carmen Angelini, SS
17. George Kontos, RHP
18. Ivan Nova, RHP
19. Collin Curtis, OF
20. Jairo Heredia, RHP
21. Juan Miranda, 1B
22. Austin Romine, C
23. Francisco Cervelli, C
24. Dave Robertson, RHP
25. Mike Dunn, LHP
26. J.B. Cox, RHP
27. Mitch Hilligoss, INF
28. Scott Patterson, RHP
29. Edwar Ramirez, RHP
30. Zach McAllister, RHP
One lefty? … Keep in mind that these rankings are done based on how the player projects, not what he has accomplished in the minors. … The Yankees are fifth in their overall organization talent rankings. … It’s been a hard fall for Eric Duncan.
This entry was posted
on Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm by Peter Abraham.
You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.
Share and Enjoy: 
| 
Print This Post
| 
Email This Post
Peter Abraham
How do they rank Jackson 2nd and Tabata 3rd for the Yankees, yet put Tabata 22nd and Jackson 40th overall? Makes no sense. Does anybody know where the 4 Mets prospects stand in the top 50 or 100?
Has Eric Duncan really been that horrible?
Will the Yankees focus on LHP in the draft or just try to get the best player available?
The overwhelming abundance of RHP really bothers mean. RHP is the last we need, being that the next 6-10 years of our roation (hopefully) will be comprised of the righties Wang, Hughes, Wang, Kennedy. Plus, we don’t have any lefty relivers. Why would they draft so many righties??
bothers me*
kd..it’s always better IMO to take the best player available.
The baseball draft is unlike any sport. You don’t draft for immediate need. You take the BPA.
Who cares if the pitcher is lefty or righty? You want them to draft a less talented pitcher because he is lefty?
It makes no sense. Get the guy who has a better chance of contributing to the MLB ballclub at some point in his career. Regadless of which hand he throws with.
Having a lefty for the sake of having a lefty is preposterous. Who was the dominant lefty in the BoSox World Series Rotation?
Good points in the draft Don.
But still… 18 righties to 1 lefty. I don’t like that.
A team doesn’t need a dominant lefty but all great teams have at least 1 sometimes 2 lefties in their roation. You can’t tell me that the lack of lefties doesn’t concer you at all!
who was the overall # 1 guy if joba was #3?
i hope it wasn’t laptops.
does anyone know? pete?
whoa.. chill out louie bags. racists are not welcome on this blog..
I think it was Longoria from the Devil Rays. Don’t know anything about him tho.
yeah bags, that kinda talk is outrageous and unwelcome. beat it
If the best player available is lefty, sure..go ahead and draft him. But I don’t think you should just get one for the sake of getting one. I’m happy with the way things are.
Maybe if Sabathia is a free agent next year, we’ll make a run at him.
You remember Eric- he was that first Duncan a long time ago.
“A team doesn’t need a dominant lefty but all great teams have at least 1 sometimes 2 lefties in their roation. You can’t tell me that the lack of lefties doesn’t concer you at all!”
Doesn’t concern me one bit actually. What if the Yankees had 5 Joba Chamberlain like righties, would it concern you then?
We still have Shelley
I looked at Duncan’s numbers. Definitely looks like the Yanks rushed him.
Regardless, he will not be 24 until December and he is in AAA. This doesn’t warrant a Top 30 spot on the Yankee prospects’ list?
The Yankees have assembled quite a stable of studs. Hank must be happy. Or not. lol.
Pete, Eric is my sleeper pick. I think Wilson will bomb out, and Eric will step up.
What a beuatiful list. We should all print this out as the greatest list of prospects ever in one organization! Unless I’m rating them too high.
Peter could you give us two articles a day on each guy in the days between now and Spring Training? That shold definitely help these next 15 days until Ptichers and Catchers.
Not much of a stretch but I would say IPK is my sleeper. The kid just gets good results. Doesn’t necessarly over-power but can occasionally. He just gets outs, reminds me of a young David Cone.
I believe the overall number 1 prospect is Jay Bruce from Cinncy, but I also think Bucholtz is number 2.
We should make a list of everyones sleeper picks and see who is correct at the end of the season.
IPK i think could be as good as Hughes. He’s not a flame thrower. But has been looked at as a Mussina, and like Jeff said, Cone type player. He’s got his control down no need more more development. He can’t be called a sleeper because he’s going to be a big piece in the Yankees ‘08.
My sleep pick will be Humberto Sanchez! Fresh off that Tommy John and they say he’s rehabbing great. Look for a all-star break appearance that could re-up the bullpen and hopefully solve the set-up problem!
Sleeper in what sense, who has made it to the big leagues…who has moved up the most in regards to where they started the season????
Pete, I think Louie Bags racist comment is a violation of the Terms of Service and would qualify him for an IP ban. That is just so offensive.
Jeff, it’s a very good list, probably the best list of prospects the Yankees have had in a long time, and Cash and Damon Oppenheimer and his team should be applauded, but if you want to see a better list of prospects, check out the Rays, for example. The Red Sox, unfortunately, probably rank higher as well as more of their better prospects are in AAA and nearly ML-ready.
This isn’t really a sleeper pick but I have Melky having a complete breakout year.
thanks for the info vader
My sleeper is whichever one of the guys who had TJ surgery last year who recovers their command the fastest.
Vader
Sleeper pick as in who isn’t expected to contribute and you think will and will be successful.
No one except me
thinks that Eric will contribute.
i like that sanchez pick shepherd. good choice.
i’m looking for shelley to have a breakout year
I heard that Jim Callis and 3 other guys did the prospect list. They were all high on Joba/Laps, but split right down the middle. Jim Callis was very pro-Laps and another guy was very pro-Joba. So it’s basically a virtual tie between the two.
Jeff NJ-
I’d need to see the list but I imagine Tampa Bay has a superior top 30…
Any guesses on how many of these 30:
a) ever start in the majors
b) play in an all-star game
c) anything else we can think of?
Pete-
I guess what I said is worse then what Louie Bags.Usually Pete and everybody tries to angry at me and call me a troll which I’m am but c’mon.
It’s great to see this blog community rally against racist comments. I’m forgiving when such remarks are done out of ignorance but without ill intent. That doesn’t seem to be the case here unfortunately.
The Tampa Bay Rays have the best talent is because they always have the #1 pick in the draft. The have first dibs on everybody and pick the best player.
The Yankees in my opinion have the better organizational talent than the Red Sox. Many people believe that Joba is better than Clay Bucholtz because of no velocity restrictions that Clay has. His fastball and slider almost max out, when Clay’s best pitches are low 70s. The Yankees best talent are also younger than the Red Sox’s. The Yankee prospects have more potential if you lined them up.
Jeff NJ, I love the list too, and welcome information about the youngsters. But it’s hard to say it’s the best of all time if it’s considered #5 at this time
So the Yankees have just 3 of the top 50, one more than what you might statistically expect? I’m surprised IPK isn’t in there too.
Anyone have the MLB top 100 prospect lists from past years? I’m curious what % of top prospects make it, and what % make it big (e.g., all star). It sure is fun to learn about the next generation here.
I think Angelini will crack the top 10 before the year is through, maybe even the top 5. All reports indicate we got a steal in the 10th round of last years draft. He had a full scholarship to college baseball powerhouse Rice, who rarely give out full scholarships, but were impressed by his skill set and his 3.95 GPA. He may be our future SS once the captain retires/switches position.
McLovin,
Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Good luck with your rehab program.
Our organizational top 10 that is.
Yankees top 10 that is.
Boston has a better top 30 depending on who you ask (gammons, Phillips, bill simmons, jim caple, etc)
No way Betances should be that low.
Yaz-
This is the link to the past Top 100 lists:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/26983.html
Has there ever been such a drastic turnaround in such a short time as the Yankees have done in the past few years?
No way buccholz is a better prospect than joba. No. Way. He may end up better, but he shouldn’t outrank joba right now.
Boston Dave,
No hitter beats a miniscule ERA. Oh yeah, and his curveball is something wicked. lol.
Interesting list, but I don’t know how Buchholz is better than Joba.
It’s truly great to see what the Yanks have done to build up their farm, though.
BTW here are a few more pics of the new stadium,
http://slidingintohome.blogspot.com/2008/01/more-new-yankee-stadium-updates.html
Ian Kennedy reminds you guys of David Cone?! Seriously? Are we talking about the same David Cone? Here’s an excerpt from The Neyer/James Guide to Pitchers:
“Tom Candiotti: David Cone’s got one of the best repertoires I’ve seen a pitcher possess. He had phenomenal natural stuff. He never looked like a classic power pitcher - he wasnt a big guy - but he had a mid 90’s fastball with about eight different arm angles. He threw a frisbee slider that started out behind right handed hitters, yet could paint the outside corner with it. He was able to throw a curveball and a devastating splitter, so he was as tough on left handed hitters as right handed.”
Meanwhile, IPK’s stuff is average (a tad above average if you’re generous) and succeeds with his high 80’s to mid 90’s fastball by locating his pitches from the same arm angle.
David Cone was a dominant ace with filthy stuff and used deception to make it even better…I have no idea what you guys are thinking.
“No way Betances should be that low.”
Betances has never pitched full season ball. Hopefully that changes this year and he becomes a stud. He’s a New York native like Sanchez so I’m hoping this year he starts living up to his potential.
i get it, just because they’re undersized and right handed…which makes it a pretty poor comparison if thats the only thing they have in common.
Jim Callis is even more biased against the Yankees than I am against the Red Sox. I got BA and its not worth the money.
Mark Melancon or Dan McCutchen will be the two sleepers this year, with myself leaning more towards Melancon if he fully recovers.
How is Andrew Brackman in the top 10 when he hasnt thrown a pitch yet and had to be shut down?
sleepers of the year.
Jennifer im with you on Duncan. His back was a huge problem the last couple years and with no expectations will shine.
Also Horne.
I know it’s cheating, but I’ll wait to hear what Jorge says. And Jeter. And Mariano. They’re pretty good talent evaluators.
Ohlendorf #9. I think thats a bit high.IMO
“This isn’t really a sleeper pick but I have Melky having a complete breakout year.”
– Really?
I’d say that is a HUGE sleeper pick.
Jorge said 2 years ago that Hughes had the best stuff on the staff in spring training. I wonder if he feels the same way now that Joba and Kennedy on board.
If you go by what Gammons says, Boston has nothing but high ceiling prospects in a system rich with talent.
Until they get used in a deal….
S.O.S.27
It’s like Peter said, this “is based on how the player projects, not what he has accomplished in the minors”
“Jorge said 2 years ago that Hughes had the best stuff on the staff in spring training. I wonder if he feels the same way now that Joba and Kennedy on board.”
- Nobody, anywhere, has ever said that Kennedy has stuff as good as Joba or Hughes, as much as some fans want to put him in the same category as them.
another list with another criterion that they won’t tell us…
ZZZzzzzzzzzzzz….
The Yankees don’t need to make lefthanded pitchers a No. 1 priority in this year’s draft but the fact is the system shows few prospects in that area.
The scouting department needs to find and draft the best available at least for the next 1-2 years.
mel,
I would disagree that a no hitter beats a miniscule ERA as the ERA is excellence over a longer period of time rather than 9 innings.
And btw, I watched Bucholtz’s no hitter and there were some balls smoked in that game that were right at fielders and there were some web gems in the game as well. It was a great performance, no doubt, but Clay had some good luck along the way.
And would you trade Joba for Clay straight up? Uh…No.
NYPD,
They compare him to a young mussina. I think that tells me that his stuff must be decent. Not to say that its better than the other two but good. Especially his control. Dont mind having a young Maddox on the team.
Gammons has roots in Boston. Take his opinion with a grain of salt.
Whatever, I believe Mel was being facetious with her post about the no hitter and Joba’s ERA.
NYPD113th,
People would take you more seriously if you tried adding something to the discussion instead of being the troll that you are.
Cleveland could face a predicament with ace C.C. Sabathia. Being eligible for free agency after this season, the small market Indians have no intention of trading him and they might not have the money to sign him long term.
GM Mark Shapiro said the team will try to sign him in spring training and when the season starts, keep the door open to signing him long term.
Sabathia says he wants to stay in Cleveland but he likes the potential free agent market which stands to include few elite lefthanders.
Actually, Eiland has said on Yankees Mag and Hot Stove that Kennedy is the closest to being a finished product out of him, Joba and Hughes and that he has the best delivery and best arsenal of pitches out of the 3.
“Whatever, I believe Mel was being facetious with her post about the no hitter and Joba’s ERA.”
Isn’t Mel a guy? Haven’t we established that before? Or…was it the other way around?
raymagnetic’
I blew through the comments and may have misconstrued mel.
If so, mea culpa.
“Actually, Eiland has said on Yankees Mag and Hot Stove that Kennedy is the closest to being a finished product out of him, Joba and Hughes and that he has the best delivery and best arsenal of pitches out of the 3.”
That makes a lot of sense, but it doesn’t mean he has the best stuff. It means that he has the best command of his stuff, the best polish.
I’m hoping that Phil and Joba make strides with their changeups during ST, because I’m pretty sure those are currently their worst pitches — and even a decent one could go a long way to keeping hitters off their already impressive fastballs.
I’d like to see a refresh at mid season once the TJ guys (hopefully) bounce back.
I didn’t say it means he has the best stuff. But it doesn’t mean he’s on a lower level than Joba and Hughes.
“I didn’t say it means he has the best stuff. But it doesn’t mean he’s on a lower level than Joba and Hughes.”
He’s on a lower level in terms of potential for dominance.
Lets hope Cleveland starts off slow and become sellers. Maybe we could land C.C. for much less. Therefore bring smiles to the Johan fans.
Hey whats up with blockquote? Damn that was the only good thing i knew how to do on a computer. Pete stop trying to fix things. Im wasnt complaining.Its all getting screwed up now.
Whozat,
mel is a she. That is a fact and i will make that my FINAL ANSWER.
Who is this Ivan Nova?
Whozat -
Mel is of the female variety.
Josh -
I’m glad you said what you did about Cone as compared to Kennedy. I did a double-take on that at first, but did not know quite how to put the differences. Good job. Cone was awesome and could really “bring it” when he had to.
That being said, I think IPK is going to be very, very good. Not has much hype as Joba and Hughes, but I think that works for him - his pitching style is also low-key. I’ve said before, my husband thinks he may end up being the best of the lot. I don’t know that I agree 100%, but I do agree that he’ll be better than anticipated. But what I like about all three is their poise and the fact that they are non-plussed by pitching for the New York Yankees, while other more “mature” pitchers have fallen apart (Ed Whitson, Jeff Weaver, anyone?).
lol, guys. It’s me. Mel, not Melvin. And yes, I was being facetious. It doesn’t matter what Jim Callis thinks. Joba rocks. I didn’t see what’s his face being ESPN’s Next.
How good is this LHP and based on fastest to get to the major leagues Who are the top 5 (not including Joba or IPK)?
Nice to see 3 catching prospects in the list!
Whatevered,
Ivan Nova was signed by the Yanks out of the DR in 2004. He’s said to have great stuff but needs to learn how to pitch.
BTW, I like your name.
Search Man–
Ohlendorf
Gardner
Horne
Miranda
Edwar Ramirez
Scott Patterson
Of course the order depends on what they need, and when they need it, but those are the 6 (if you really want 5, then get rid of Patterson) closest to the bigs besides Joba/IPK.
SAHM(copyrights of the initials go to you for the simple reason you taught me the meaning and my wife now knows it)
I agree with your husband and i know we’re in the minority. I also think Kennedy is going to be better than the other two. I think he had better overall numbers in the minors than both Joba and Phil. I could be wrong. But i just think he knows how to PITCH and will surprise a lot of people that are looking past him.
Mel…is that short for..uh…Melanie?
Mike Dunn is a recently converted outfielder….he’s not bad but is very far from reaching the majors. If he flies through the system, he’d be there in September 2009 at the absolute earliest
whatever,
I tried guessing(melanie)and never got the response. You are better off asking her to blink once for yes.
mel is not short for melanie or melissa, keep guessing…
dan,
I am a little worried about Ramirez. I hope he took some weight gainers in the offseason and can get his fastball up. It was either a strikeout or he would get hit hard last year. Hitters would just sit on his 80’s fastball and crush it. Hope he succeeds.
Buddy,
Now that hurts. Are you telling me that she actually told you what it was and not me? How did you get her to tell you slick?
S.o.S.
I’ll keep that in mind. Some people are reluctant to give out too much info on the net. I, for instance, only give out my home phone number on very rare occasions…lol.
Whatever,
WOW! Giving out your home number? Thats going a bit too far if you ask me. I wont go past my social. And thats just to the special bloggers who are in my circle of trust. But never my phone number.lol
S.o.S-
I tried guessing awhile back & her answer was no, but you will guess it sooner or later. So think about it there is one more, & you will most likely get it. She is by far the most knowledgeable female sports fan I have ever came across. I was actually shocked she was a woman & I mean that in the highest compliment possible.
Guys, please. I’m dying to tell you everything. But I’m in witness protection, and my handler would absolutely KILL me. We’d have to pack up the family and they don’t want to do that again. My big mouth has cost us 5 relocations.
Buddy, flattery will get you everywhere!
Do any of you guys also post on Bryan Hoch’s yankees.com blog or am I the only one?
mel-
You need to work on your sense of humor though! Seriously! Just Kidding! Lol
Buddy,
OK, not Melanie. Uh..Melba? How about Melinda? Mmmm…Melita? What about Melvina? I’m racking my brain….uh…Meliffany? Am I getting close?
buddy,
Just when i try to get out. You guys pull me back in. Im going to go in the net and look for female names that start with those 3 letters(wont mention them for mels witness protection sake). Just throwing this out there Melody? Dont even know if iv met one before.
Melido?
I actually don’t know for sure, but let’s say you are closer than you think.
buddy,
There is a few girls in here that are knowledgable. mel(a laker from l.a.),Doreen(sahm),jennifer(hip hip), help me out here mel.
Anyone else hear Buster on Sportscenter say the Twins wanted Kennedy and Wang Monday night?
buddy,
Whos closer? What the hell does “i actually dont know for sure mean”? Is that like almost pregnant? Seriously.
The mel-odrama of finding out mel’s given name has got me on needles and pins.
saucy,
Who are you picking for the super bowl. We have to get it right sooner or later. I think its the Rams vs. Pats game all over again. Giants shock the world. A blind squirrel finds a nut sometime.
S.o.S-
Agreed on many knowledgeable women here. I think mel prefers to stay on the DL, or is it LD? Jk
whatever,
CLASSIC!! Hillarious.
does anyone know when single game yanks tickets go on sale? or did i already miss the boat?
SoS: I’m not knowledgable? =(
sos, i want the giants to win and think they will.
i got an eli jersey for christmas. ever since he’s been the good eli, as the next game was the final regular season game. i am superstitios about watching sports.
Why knock IPK…
I realize many of you have only seen IPK in the ML. I saw him about 5/8 times in the MIL as well as the big show. He is very very good. I honestly believe if a batter had a cup of coffee in his hand, IPK could knock it out of his hand 7 of 10 times…with any pitch. It isn’t the stuff that makes a pitcher (see: Farnsy) it’s the control with witch he throws the stuff, along with the smarts when to throw it. As some have said before, you will like this kid and will remind one of Moose. 27/08.
SoS,
Don’t mess with Rebecca. She’s an expert in swords and medieval weaponry.
Old Ranger,
I agree. He looks like he could be really good.
problem is… yanks fans are anointing all of the prospects way too early.
Hughes and Joba = HOF
Kennedy = All Star
Tabata and AJax = All Stars
Horne = solid #3
etc…
Gotta take it all in stride and stay both optimistic AND realisitc.
I do like IPK though…
perhaps the best part for fans of the big 3 are that they all seem to be professional, modest, and hard working. they are all easy to root for. there are no scumbag josh beckett types in this group.
Sorry Becca,
Yes you are. Im sure im forgetting others. My bad. Forgive me for forgetting a regular. Wont happen again.
If the Giants win I’ll be whistling a fine mel-ody, but if the Pats win, I may have a mel-tdown, and will surely be feeling mel-ancholy for weeks. However, with spring training and warmer weather on the horizon, I’ll soon be feeling very mel-low.
saucy,
Im with you. Last year i wore a COLTS hat and jersey through out the playoffs and we won. This year i slipt my mind and colts were one and done. Get your jersey ready. Hope you it has one more win in it.
mel-
I believe you are being serenaded. Very mel-odramtic.
Pretty, pretty funny Whatever!
mel,
Its your fault. I asked you for assistance. But once again i got left out to dry.
whatever,
You are making people like me not be able to post anything funny on this blog again. I feel like a mel-lon. Keep em coming.
SoS: =D makes me feel better!
Buddy, the mellifluous talk is music to my ears!
SoS,
It’s not my fault you’re such a melonhead!
mel,
Our friendship is mel-ting away!
Thanks for the compliment - but I defer to Rebecca and Mel who are knowledgeable in many sports — baseball in my limit! (But I will watch some football, tennis and college basketball).
Doreen: Mostly baseball and hockey on my end.
Doreen,
Don’t be so modest. You’re the resident cheerleader.
Baseball talk. Who starts @ 1B on opening day?
Doreen,
That sounded bad. Cheerleading is a serious sport. Can you believe they give cheerleading scholarships?!
Good question. Who are they playing and who would be pitching?
O.K. I’ll hazard a guess. Jason Giambi will be the opening day 1B. Ya know. $20M and all that.
Doreen: don’t know, and we probably won’t know till spring training shapes up.
Mel: I wanna be the resident something-or-other!
Rebecca-
You are the resident Optimist!
Speaking of the Giants, isn’t it about time for Mr. Clairvoyant Abraham to give us his Official Super Bowl NE-NYG Score. Mine is Giants 35, New England 31. I just missed the GB score by one point. I had said 24-20, it was 23-20.
Wang will be pitching against Toronto.
I have visions of laying in bed tonight, unable to sleep as I turn over possible names in my mind…uh..Meliora?…no…Melantha?..probably not…hey, Melisande?…what about Melosa?…hmmmm, doubtful….wait, I’ve got it! MELANGELL!! Yeah, that’s got to be it! Right?!
Mel -
No offense taken. And when I was a cheerleader is was not a serious sport. No pyramids, you know? But today, they’re not really about cheering for a team so much - they’re about their own competition. I’m not sure that’s a bad thing - just the shouldn’t call it cheerleading. It’s combination dance and extreme gymnastics plus a little (a lot) of curly ponytails. It’s like they want to be a legitimate sport, but can’t let go of the girly-girl stereotype. It’s as much about the cute outfits, matching hairties and embellished socks as it is about the actual skill involved. And the girls are more athletic. And that they compete for themselves rather than cheer for boys’ teams is a great thing. But then they are no longer cheerleaders, even if they do allow a boy or two to get involved. And then as they get older and bare more skin, aren’t they back where they started? Sexual beings who can’t really compete so they stand on the sidelines of a men’s competition, getting attention by “being cute.”
Oops - was that a rant????
Could be Polynesian. Remember Bronson Sardinha’s name? Talk about alphabet soup.
Jeff: The SB prediction post will be soon. Probably Friday.
Doreen,
Remember the Texas Cheerleader Mom? lol.
I was a wee bit jealous of cheerleaders in high school.
Nowadays it’s easier to get a cheer scholarship than a gymnastics one. And the cheerleaders have horrible tumbling form. Oops-was that a rant????
If Matsui is DHing, then Giambi is at first.
Mel,
Are you serious about cheer scholarships being easier to get than gymnastics? That’s just ridiculous.
Sexual beings who can’t really compete so they stand on the sidelines of a men’s competition, getting attention by “being cute.”
——————————————————–
Are you implying this is a bad thing?
Mel -
I guess it’s about having high visibility. At Rutgers Univ, they’ve eliminate a lot of traditional, yet non-popular sports altogether in favor of spending more money on their football program, for one.
Rebecca,
I’ve thought about it. And you are definitely the Resident Angel. But with your red hair, you’re probably a little devilish, too.
“NYPD113th,
People would take you more seriously if you tried adding something to the discussion instead of being the troll that you are.”
– Somehow I will try to go on ray.
BTW, I believe the “young Mussina” projections are some Yankee homerism mixed in with kennedy’s ceiling. The absolute best case scenario puts him there, a realistic expectation puts him at a #3.
“At Rutgers Univ, they’ve eliminate a lot of traditional, yet non-popular sports altogether in favor of spending more money on their football program, for one.”
The sad part is that I can’t name the programs that got hacked off, and this happened around my Junior or Senior year
OYF -
Yes.
Title IX has a lot to do with cuts. Many colleges don’t have mens soccer because of gender equity.
Shelly Duncan takes you into his home Coming up On YES
Blargh -
I think one of the cuts was the swim team. And crew?
What I don’t really understand is that those kinds of sports are olympic sports. So am I to understand that the truly elite athletes are all privately trained now, so that only the second tier athletes compete on a collegiate level? While with football, the way to success is directly through college?
mel–You do know I am a HUGE Devils fan, aye? =P
(The things you don’t know about me…)
Anyways, I know Syracuse is cutting swimming and diving for ice hockey, but imo it’s about time we have a hockey team.
“a realistic expectation puts him at a #3.”
Oh no! A 22 year old #3 starter that’s under team control for six years!
Please, save us from this horror!
From the AP,
Responding to Burress’ comments, Brady predicts 50-3 rout of Giants
Rebecca –
At least that makes sense. I wouldn’t think of Syracuse as a swimming/diving mecca! But hockey is a natural.
Central,
I’m thinking Frathouse Chic. With a Bowflex forearm machine. Let us know what it looks like.
Ah, there we go, from here: http://ur.rutgers.edu/medrel/viewArticle.html?ArticleID=5251
“Six intercollegiate sports – men’s heavyweight crew, men’s lightweight crew, men’s fencing, women’s fencing, men’s swimming and diving, and men’s tennis – will be phased out after their 2006-07 seasons. ”
Hmm, go fig, happened later than I thought (class of 2007 here)
He has a crib with his Bro Chris in Tuscon…Two Master Bedrooms..Poker table, dart board, 42″ Plasma to play guitar hero. Pretty much sums it up. And says he’ll be seeing us soon!!!
Polynesian? Possibly French Polynesian? Hah, this narrows it down. Isamel…or….could it be Melette?…I once knew a girl from Paris named Melette, but that’s another story.
Anyway,..ummmm…French…french…french…Oh boy! It’s over! I got it! Melique! Tah Dah!!
Moose,
I think you’ve got the wrong report. He said that the only thing he can predict accurately is that Brett Favre will be undecided about his retirement.
Which of the two cathcers projects to be with the club? Romine or Montero?
Frathouse Chic was a pretty good guess. Big leather couch, poorly made bed, movie posters on the wall, a few very large flat screens and earth tone colors to cover dirt from showing as far as the eye could see.
and
I guess Mel’s name has a “K” in it.
pat,
OMG, it was so obvious. A “K” in it. MELKY!!!!!
Anybody else find this funny?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2triiYXSY8
http://slidingintohome.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-yankee-stadium-construction-update.html
New pics!! I didn’t realize we were doing the split upper deck
So Melky is French Polynesian. Well, whaddyaknow.
NYPD, I would just say that while I may be over-rating IPK, it is possible you are under-rating him as well. I picked him to be my sleeper, because the expectations of him are pretty low. Be a number 3, occasionally hit 92, be a possible Mussina (who no one is maistaking for a hall of famer).
The truth is, it if wasn’t for the unstoppable Joba train (his best buddy by the way), we would all be amazed at how fast IPK went from little known USC pitcher who is just 23 years old, to top major league prospect.
In my opinion, he should be higher on this list than the two OF prospects, neither have which have mastered AA. Granted they may be here in Sept to back up but IPK is here from day one, probably penciled in as your number 5 starter.
Thank God this Santana business is finally coming to a close.
Back here in Northern Iowa is Twin’s country and believe me, none of the Twins fans at work are smiling about this deal.
Central Ct Yankee
You forgot the karaoke machine!
scout.com ranks these better
“In my opinion, he should be higher on this list than the two OF prospects, neither have which have mastered AA”
And that’s all about whether you value projection or probability more. I like the 1-10 A-D system, where the number denotes ceiling and the letter denotes probability of reaching it (or maybe it’s the other way around). So, Joba would be a 9B (All-star potential, excellent chance of getting there). Ian would be an 8B (good major leaguer, excellent chance). Tabata or Jackson would be like…a 9C. All-star potential, but maybe a 70% chance of getting there, because they are so far away.
Is that the Sickels method I’m talking about there? Anyone know?
Anyone know how the Yankees plan to allocate seats in the new stadium. I’m a B package in Tier Reserve and I’m already planning on getting screwed.
What’s the rumor on how the Yankees determine whether you retain your seat assignment or not? ANyone have a clue?
Winfield - both catchers project very well, catching has become a real area of strength for the Yankees. Montero is a real masher with serious HR power. His only troubles are being nimble enough behind the plate. Initially most people thought it inevitably he would move to 1st base, but I’ve heard a lot of reports on how much he has progressed this year. He also seems to be a hard worker and lost a lot of weight since he signed which has obviously helped.
Romine seems to be a solid all rounder from what I can gather who could well end up in NY. It would be interesting to see them splitting time there and keeping fresh as a result, perhaps with Montero also seeing some time at 1st or DH.
There are several other catchers in the system who are also pretty good. Cervelli is getting some good reviews and looks like he should at the very least be a very solid back up. Ahead of him in terms of readiness is P.J. Pilittere. He looks like he probably has a lower ceiling, but again is a solid enough option should Molina pick up an injury.
Further down the system our 6th rnd pick form last yr Chase Weems could be a good sleeper pick. He seems to have a great bat and decent arm but needs to work on other things defensively. He seems so have fallen in the draft due to concerns about signability (we really did well with position players in the later rounds and internationally last yr)
And last of all Kyle Anson is a converted 3rd baseman with an absolute cannon arm and amazing catch and throw footwork. He is new to the position so has a lot to learn but his intstincts seem to give him a head start although his offense has been pretty weak.
Shepherd, I think you have a point about the lefties, there is such disparity that it leaves the cupboard so bare for lefties. The consolation is that the policy of taking the best arm available has meant that a lot of righty prospects are turning out really well.
Some trades could well be in the future I think. We have more righty starters than spots and need a lefty reliever for next yr. I know he is coming back from TJ surgery right now but I’d love to see us go after Gonzales form Atlanta. They have resigned Soriano to close and I would love to see a Sanchez/ Melancon / Gonzales bridge to Mo. We have to move some pitchers next yr just because we don’t have spots for them and Atlanta needs some starting pitching.
With Veras, Ohlendorf, Robertson, Britton, Edwar, Horne, White, Albaladejo and Whelan all in the mix for the pen at some point over the next yr, we have both depth to trade and an amazing and dirt cheap pen to look forward to. These savings and the $70M+ coming off the books this summer must make us major players in the Sabathia and Texiera races - covering 1st base and lefty pitching, or two only organizational weaknesses.
And before we know it Garcia, Heredia, Nova, Betances, Brackman, McCutcheon, and McAllister will be knocking on the door. Then we will really have competition for spots. Happy days
I’m please to hear there are more women who frequent this site than I originally thought.
Makes me feel less like I haven’t grown out of my “eating club” days during which I spent half my time drinking beer and the other half arguing about sports and politics.
“I can’t get married I’m a 30 year old adolescent”– Fight Club.
“Be a number 3, occasionally hit 92, be a possible Mussina (who no one is mistaking for a hall of famer). ”
——————————————————–
Unfortunately, you contradict yourself.
Yes, IPK could become an above averge #3.
Yes, he resembles Moose in his ‘look’.
But Moose was a #1, had more pitches, and when younger,
and a much better fastball.
So IPK could be ‘Moose Lite’, but I don’t think he will be as good as Moose (who DOES meet a lot of HOF criteria).
But you are correct that a cost controlled #3 is valuable, especially on a staff with Wang, Phil and Joba!
And Doreen thinks being ‘cute’ and a ’sex object’ is a bad thing. Isn’t that sad?
oldyanksfan: You’re clearly not a 21 year old college female…
Didn’t Moose throw a 94-95 mph fastball when he started for Baltimore? He once had nasty, nasty, stuff.
Kill-Schill(ing)
I heard a Rumor that we will hear something in late June or Early July about seat allocation. I have had plan C since 97. I hope not to get screwed either.
Thanks Connecticut Yankee.
oldyanksfan: You’re clearly not a 21 year old college female…
———————————————————-
No…. but I WANT to be one.
Hey wait!
My daughter is a 21 year old college female…
Well… actually she’s 20, but close enough.
well…. at least she TELLS me she’s in college.
No Phil Hughes?