Cone returns to YES
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- February
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This press release from the YES Network:
David Cone, the strikeout artist who endeared himself to New York Yankees fans by hurling a perfect game for the Bronx Bombers in 1999, is returning to the YES Network as a Yankees analyst, splitting his time between the booth and studio.
Cone will also host YES’ Emmy Award-winning children’s-themed Yankees on Deck series and will participate in weekly chats on YESNetwork.com.
“An astute student of the game, David will be an excellent addition to our on-air lineup,” said John Filippelli, president of production and programming for the YES Network. “He was known as a fierce competitor who relished a battle, and I’m confident that he will bring that same burning desire to excel into the booth.”
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The backstory: Cone was with YES during the 2002 season. But when he made a comeback with the Mets in 2003, it created some hard feelings in Tampa. Never mind that the Yankees didn’t want him back at the time.
This is a great hire for YES. Cone is a smart guy who knows New York, knows the Yankees and has the ability to break down games better than most of the talking heads on television.
If the Yankees are smart, they’ll have Cone spend some time with Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy and the rest of their young pitchers. Of all the athletes who passed through New York in the last 20 years, few handled the media and the pressure better than Cone.
YES also announced that Bobby Murcer, Ken Singleton, Al Leiter, Paul O’Neill and John Flaherty will return as analysts. Michael Kay is back doing play-by-play and (name deleted) will be the field reporter.
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Peter Abraham
i know there’s really nothing that can be done realistically, but we’ve got to find a way to get Michael Kay off these games.
“but we’ve got to find a way to get Michael Kay off these games.”
Tell Kevin Mench that Kay always makes fun of his giant cranium, and let nature take its course.
Still stuck with Leiter…
I assume that perhaps you left out Bobby Mercer by accident and that he is also returning next year??
Why does YES need so many people in the booth? Just stick with Ken Singleton and John Flaherty and be done with it. When John and Ken call a game, it’s a pleasure—unlike Kay, they appreciate how hard it is to play the game, and they never bash the players (their own or the opposing team’s). They also don’t get melodramatic or start screaming or take personal shots at people they don’t like (a la Kay). Kay is seriously just a disaster—he’s annoying to listen to, he doesn’t know the game, he’s bombastic, he’s repetitive… why, why, WHY is he employed by the Yankees?
They should give me Kim Jones’ job, except I’m not that hot.
Pete, any word on whether Murcer will be back in the booth this year?
Stephen, I disagree in that I think Leiter is a good analyst. However, he and Kay are such good buddies that they get sidetracked into a mutual lovefest too often and I detracts from the game. Leiter’s much better when paired w/ Singleton alone.
What’s wrong with Leiter? He has great hair. lol. Although, it creeps me out everytime he fawns over a “great looking young player”.
The trick to gettin Michael Kay out of the booth more is to increase his other jobs. Increase his appearances for ESPN. More parts in off-Broadway productions. Kay’s alright. At least he has the ability to laugh at himself.
“Still stuck with Leiter…”
?? Leiter is great. He’s got so much insight.
“Why does YES need so many people in the booth? Just stick with Ken Singleton and John Flaherty and be done with it. When John and Ken call a game, it’s a pleasure”
They usually just have two or three in any one game…they have so many different guys because none of them WANT a full schedule of games. They don’t want all that travel.
I think Leiter is an excellent analyst who truly analyzes the action and doesn’t spout cliches just to hear himself talk.
I will take the opposing argument on Ken Singleton, however. Any chance he gets, he brings up his playing days to the detriment of the action on the field.
“Although, it creeps me out everytime he fawns over a “great looking young player”.”
I kind of assume he means in terms of his mechanics, athleticism and grace, not so much his physical appearance…
Rebecca,
You’d be great.
Kim’s ok. I really like how Jeter teases her. It really throws her off. Borderline unprofessional. She tries to ignore it, but you can tell she loves it. Sheesh, who wouldn’t, he’s such a charmer.
Whozat,
Yes, he does mean in an athletic, good-potential way. But I have a very active imagination and he says it SOOOO often, that it just infected my mind.
No Murcer?
Are there any petitions to get Kay off the YES network?
mel: Heh, well, she probably does a better job than I’d do!
Murcer was not mentioned on the release. It was a mistake, I’m told. He’s back.
Peter does the fact that Cone is coming back mean that David Justice was not asked back? Also, any news on Bobby?
I like adding Cone to the mix. He was always good in his interviews. I’m with quite a few of the posters here in that the best times listening to the Yanks are when Kay is gone and it’s just Singleton and one of the former players in the booth. The focus then is always much more on the game itself and breaking down the action instead of the tangents and drama that Kay always likes to bring in.
Tim:
It was announced about a month ago that Justice would not be back with YES. Let me see if I can dig up a link.
Kay is terrible, his radio shows theme music is worse…
whozat
In all seriousness, Kay is awful! I cannot stand listening to him do the games! I don’t get any insight into the game.
Here it is:
http://tinyurl.com/22xjrp
Apparently he’s still going to write columns for YesNetwork.com and do chats but won’t be a studio analyst this year as his house in San Diego (was destroyed in fires) is being rebuilt.
Justice lost his home in those CA fires… hence not coming back to YES right away.
i hope he’s back once his life is straightened out. i can’t imagine losing a home.
Remember when Key tried to nickname Cano and Melky the C&C boys. That caught on…not
I’d love to see Murcer increase the number of his broadcasts from last year’s number, health permitting, of course.
Kay*
Cone will be great. Definitely one of my all time favorites and always a pleasure to listen to when he has done interviews. I don’t really have many problems with anyone except Kay who just gets annoying, but I just can’t stand kim jones. I seem to recall a number of times last year the players who were interviewed by her walking off the field completely annoyed or irritated. I really don’t think she brings anything to the games at all, and usually change the channel before we get her post game.
In other sports news…..
Apparently the Shaq deal is a go as long as he passes his physical in Phoenix today.
http://tinyurl.com/2emtkk
Just can’t see this move from the Suns perspective. Looks good for my Lakers though.
In entertainment news….
Heath Ledger’s death has been ruled an accidental overdose resulting from the toxic combination of 6 different prescription medications.
http://tinyurl.com/2rn968
great, i have to hate the Suns now?
saucy,
Got something against Shaq? We have something in common!
never liked him.. never will …
i think there may be a time when you liked him, no?
At least you’re not a Nets fan…
I like Michael Kay, he does a pretty good job with the games. You are not going to agree with everything the play by play guy says no matter who is in there. If Michael Kay was so horrible, he wouldnt be calling the games for over 12 years and ESPN would not hire him to be on radio and TV. Two of the biggest entities in sports must have it all wrong…
Thanks for keeping us up to date on what’s going on in the world, Rodg. Hahaha. I agree with you about Shaq—I don’t see how it makes sense. They’re getting rid of a really good player and taking back a broken-down one who’s making a ton of money (this year and next year) and doesn’t fit into their style of play at all. Unless they think they can save him for the playoffs and have a rested Shaq suddenly turn back the clock, I just don’t see how this works for them. Nice steal—erm, I mean trade—for Gasol. Lakers look really good right now.
Yup, right up until the time he told Buss, “Pay me now!” in an exhibition game.
I’m thinking this is a Trojan Horse kind of thing, because it’s counterintuitive on so many levels. But it’s probably the Suns realizing you can’t win with small ball.
If Michael Kay was so horrible, he wouldnt be calling the games for over 12 years and ESPN would not hire him to be on radio and TV. Two of the biggest entities in sports must have it all wrong———
I’ve never met a Yankee fan who likes Michael Kay. Success doesn’t always equal being good.
Couldn’t agree with you more on Cone, Pete. When this was first announced about a week ago I wrote how much I respect and admire Dave Cone:
http://bronx-bomberz.blogspot.com/2008/01/conie-to-join-yes-network.html
“If Michael Kay was so horrible, he wouldnt be calling the games for over 12 years and ESPN would not hire him to be on radio and TV. Two of the biggest entities in sports must have it all wrong…”
so your argument is that because he works for ESPN, he can’t be horrible? i’ll have to get back to you on that one.
just kidding with you, i don’t listen to the radio during the day, but i have heard that Kay is much better on his radio show than he is on YES. he can’t be worse, so that’s probably true.
Kay is bad, but not as bad as Sterling and Waldman. Kay is at his best when O’Neill is in the booth, mainly because O’Neill just makes fun of him for 3 hours.
Cone will be awesome.
Jay-
Shaq’s signed for 2 more years AFTER this one at $20 million each. That’s a huge reason why I don’t see this deal making sense for Phoenix. I guess they get to unload the bad Marcus Banks contract, but they pick up a bad one in return. And we know the Suns owners don’t like to spend money, witness the selling of multiple draft picks the last few years (how good would Loul Deng look in a Suns jersey right now??).
Im a happy Spurs fan today. Very bad trade for a guy who cant even touch the rim anymore. It slows down the Suns and makes my team match up better. All i need now is the Mavs. to pull the trigger on old Kidd for Harris and back to back titles will look more probable. Lakers vs. Spurs in Western finals. WINNER TAKES ALL.
Cone’s a nice addition but ugh, for crying out loud, Kay is insufferable, what in the world does YES find validating about him?
The Yankee tv experience would be infinitely better if they just rotated Kenny & Bobby as play-by-play guys until they’re ready to hang up their mikes, at least they’re pleasant on the ears.
go Nets… ( i have no shame )
I confess, I like John Sterling.
Waldman, however, makes me cringe. It’s beyond totally awesome that you’re the first women to get an MLB announcing gig, which is a total ‘if they offer it you don’t say no’ type of job….
....but dude, being an xx instead of an xy does not give you leave to act like you’re ten on air.
Rebecca – I completely agree with you.
I like listening to Sterling. While some of his calls are definitely on the corny side, he does bring something interesting to the game. And he is a nice guy too.
But Suzyn drives me nuts. Every once in a while she pulls out a great nugget, but for the most part she adds nothing and raises the hair on the back of my neck.
Kay is alot different on his radio show. He can not be critical of the Yankees on YES, because the Yankees employ him. It is totally different on his radio show.
Saucy,
Sean Williams is emerging now, huh? And if VC up for every game like he was last night the Nets would be a completely different team.
Rebecca, I think you and I would make a good team to replace Kim Jones and Suzyn Waldman. Let’s see what we can do…
I think Leiter’s great, he talks so fast but he’s funny and gives a lot of great information. At one point last season, Kay was rambling for a good 3 minutes without stopping about how the starters take their toll on the relievers, and when he asked Leiter what he thought, Leiter gave a sort of “You were still talking?” response that had me laughing out loud.
I’m going to miss Girardi in the booth, at least Paulie’s still there, though.
mel, i love Sean Williams… picked him up in my fantasy league as soon as some fool dropped him.
Saucy: AWESOME! We should totally go to a game together, but maybe an away game because Izod is yucky.
Kat: Sure! Howzaboutit?
Exactly right Pete. Coney would be great working with the young arms in the spring.
He will do a great job in the booth.
Unlike a lot of athletes, who have difficulty making the transition to the booth because they don’t want to make their peers mad (Leiter’s biggest problem, IMO), Coney won’t be afraid to tell it like it is.
Huge upgrade in the booth.
Kay? He isn’t going anywhere as long as John Fillapilli (the Exec Prod. of YES) continues to like his work.
Which, to those of us who think he is absolutely horrible on the air, is something we don’t quite get.
He isn’t a play by play guy. Doesn’t have the pipes, the cadence, or the talent to pull it off.
He also can’t figure out the difference between a “long flyball”, and a pop out to Jeter.
I have never seen nor heard a PBP guy so inept at judging the distance of flyballs in his home ballpark.
Best franchise in sports and it has some of the worst on air talents one could have on its broadcast roster.
Just one of those unexplained things when it comes to the Yankees.
VC had to be criminally frustrating for Nets fans to watch. After watching that game last night, you’d think he was one of the 10 best players in the league. But, he doesn’t play like that with any consistency. When effort is something a player doesn’t bring consistently, that’s just sad!
Uh oh for Clemens if this is true…
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/02/06/2008-02-06_lawyers_mcnamee_has_physical_evidence_li.html
They should give me Kim Jones’ job, except I’m not that hot.
But is she though? Seriously? Granted, she’s not ugly, but I wouldn’t classify her as hot. She seems like a “but her face” to me…
...or a “butter face” if you spell it like you say it.
saucy,
That’s great about Williams. The best feeling was watching Bynum fulfill his potential and surpass expectations. Were you guys hoping for a Kidd/Bynum trade?
I like Kim Jones, she is always stating on her morning show how she can’t get a date.
Why would McNamee have blood stained syringes just laying around from 7/8 years ago? Something fishy there.
SJ44,
Wow. A little frustrated by Kay? lol. Maybe the reason they keep him on, in spite of his ineptitude in baseball knowledge, is that he’s a “colorful” character. He must be doing something right. He’s been there a while.
(I really have no opinion on Kay, although he makes me laugh on occasion. Usually on a gaffe, but still.)
Re the McNamee evidence. BALCO vials and blood stained needles and gauze pads? Eww! He kept that stuff? So why didn’t he give it to Mitchell? The vials don’t convince me—who says they were the Rocket’s?—but the needles and gauze pads? Didn’t Rocket admit to B12 injections? Can they determine whether there are steroids in the syringes? This is just getting strange.
McNamee is a dirtbag. Either two things here: 1) he’s creating this evidence somehow or 2) he saved these to blackmail Clemens down the line. There’s no way in hell he saved these (if they are real) because he thought someone might investigate this. No one goes to jail because they use steroids (they bust people for selling them).
I don’t believe him for a second. I’m sure any tests will come back inconclusive and it’s just a way for him to say “I had the evidence, but it wasn’t quite definitive enough”—even though it proves nothing.
I still think McNamee is a weak witness—we’re talking about a guy who possibly drugged and raped a woman and then lied to the police when he was taken in.
Gus, I like to think of Kim Jones as a monet… nice to look at from far away but not quite as nice up close. She isn’t, by any means, an ugly woman but not as hot as a lot of (male) fans seem to think she is. Most of the (male) fans I know think she is amazing, but I think it’s because she has regular access to the Yanks.
If she can’t get a date, then the rest of us are hopeless! She’s an attractive lady with a great job and access to countless sports superstars…
Yeah I don’t understand how he can’t judge a fly ball either. But neither can a lot of fans that go to games. I sit there and here everyone cheering thinking it is going to be a homerun. I’m like people it is going to be caught! Sure enough it is caught in semi shallow cf.
None of this McNamee stuff makes sense. The only thing I can think of as to why he would keep those things (and EW!) is that he was still training with Clemens while he was giving him up to Mitchell, and maybe Clemens had injections then? And McNamee saved them just in case?
Or he’s completely full of it. That’d be real stupid to let out to the press, because if there is no evidence to come from that, McNamee’s going to lose any remaining credibility he may still have.
Say it ain’t so, don’t you find it a bit hard to believe that anyone would hold on to used syringes and cotton and vials? I find it hard to believe. Also, there is a real strain with the chain of evidence, not that that will stop anyone from believing what they want to believe.
If McNamee did actually save these things, doesn’t that also point to a sick mind? The statement that they “may contain traces of Steroids and HGH” make me immediately think tampering of evidence to fit. Maybe I am too cynical about McNamee, but this isn’t passing my smell test.
In my opinion, if he had the evidence when he talked to Mitchell, he would have said so. Instead he waits till now?
Even if McNamee did keep that stuff, there’s no possible way the identifying evidence, like DNA, would have survived, unless special care was taken it to preserve it, and that raises a whole slew of OTHER questions I’m not sure I want an answer to…
The Yankees should retire the No. 14 I used to wear.
You can stay in a job in broadcasting as long as your bosses think you are good. Amazingly, they think Kay is good.
As far as comparing him to solid PBP broadcasters, he isn’t very good.
If you have the Baseball Package, listen to other teams PBP guys. Other than the Hawk in Chicago and a few others, sadly, Kay is at the low end of that totem pole.
For a franchise like the Yankees, its a shame many of their on air talents are so weak.
Sterling? When he doesn’t get too schtick happy, he can still bring it. I still love his HR calls. Just don’t love the premature HR calls, which are growing each year.
Waldman? Personally, I like her a lot. She has been through an awful lot in her life and for her to come out on the better side of it, is a tribute to her. However, I think she is best suited in a sideline/clubhouse role, than being second chair in the booth with Sterling.
Kim Jones. Much better last year than her first year. Night and day. If she can improve at the same pace this year, she has a shot at having a very nice career. To her credit, she is working at it. Not other logical reason to do that insipid 5 am warm up show with Chris Carlin at WFAN other than to continue to improve her on air work. I have a lot of respect for people who work at getting better in this business.
My biggest complaint with the analysts in the YES booth is they all sound the same. O’Neill, Flash and Leiter all sound alike. Its hard to distinguish who is working on a given day.
Singleton? Let me know when he actually says something relevent. It will be the first time.
Murcer? Love the comic relief he brings to the booth. But, he is on the short side of giving cogent analysis at this stage of his career.
I really hope Coney can bring the goods to the booth. Give me ONE guy in that booth who isn’t parroting the party line, and I am a happy camper.
John Sterling cant judge a ball too well either at this point in time, so it is not just Kay that has this issue seems to be a Yankee broadcaster problem lol.
The whole saving of syringes etc thing is very bizarre indeed. None of this makes sense to me and I cannot wait for the day that this will all be over. The chain of custody on this will be shot once the lawyers get involved and Clemens has a good one.
Old Goat, I just posted the story, I didn’t write it, haha. I truly doubt that any proof is going to come of this.
Also, I don’t understand how McNamee isn’t being brought up on more charges. He withheld evidence, didn’t he? And he keeps miraculously remembering more as the days go by. Isn’t that the same as lying?
Thinking about this a little more, if he were looking to set up Clemens and exonerate himself, and he had syringes used on Clemens, it would be quite easy to use the syringe to pull HGH and steroids into it.
His evidence might have satisfied Mitchell, who would be satisfied if he was told a talking cat told a player he saw something, but not a court of law.
Will Cone be teaching children to pleasure themselves in the bullpen?
I liked listening to Girardi in the booth because I thought he contributed a lot of interesting facts and knowledge of the players. I really hope and believe that Cone will do that as well.
I thought that Kim Jones was getting questions fed to her during her first year, and that’s why she came off sounding like a complete idiot.
I like her, I think she does a fair job for the most part. She’s no better or worse than any other reporters. Sometimes they ask great questions, other times, well, Mussina’s face says it all, haha.
Say it ain’t so, I didn’t mean it to come off as you believed or didn’t believe it. Just meant to direct my comments to your post.
SJ44 could not agree with you more having grown up with Harry Kalas and Richie Ashburn as play by play and color guys what they have in the YES booth is sorely lacking although I believed that Girardi and Justice were not company line guys and were pretty straight shooters especially Justice but there role was studio not booth.
It seems the grass is always greener on the other side…
As others have pointed out I find it highly distrubing if he did keep blood stained syringes and gauze pads. That is digusting. Can they “carbon” date steroids? Also who is to say that he didn’t change the needle on the syringe and place it on a vial that he put sterioids into.
He claims he kept it because he feared Clemens would deny illicit drug use? Um if you were the only two that knew about it, it would never get out.
This is all very strange to me.
Old Goat, I’m just messing around with you
Another question about this McNamee thing. Doesn’t it raise more questions that he’s an ex-cop? Wouldn’t he know how to put this type of evidence together?
I watch more games with the sound off than on because I can’t stand listening to Kay. I have written to YES multiple times complaining about his terrbile PBP, terrible color commentary, using the same exact script half the time.
I think half the people who post on here would do a better job than Kay does. The man loves the sound of his own voice too much, and babbles constantly.
this doesnt make sense to me either, if they were as good of friends as the phone call made them out to be, why would you hold incriminating evidence on the person who “taught me how to raise my kids”?
I guess i am in the minority hear but i LOVE the yankees play by play guys. I love michael Kay and his show on ESPN 1050. Bobby Murcer is my favorite of them all and Ken Singleton is great too.
Have you ever listened to the Mets play by play guys??? Boring! Talk about sounding alike.
Erin Andrews should get the field reporter job, in my opinion.
I think too many people forget his old role in the police force. During the taped phone call I thought it sounded as if McNamee was trying to get Clemens more than Clemens was trying to get him. McNamee is a pro, and this latest stuff coming out brings to mind the troubles with the evidence in the OJ trial.
We really don’t have any way to know which side is telling the truth here, but the more this goes on, the less I have any faith in what McNamee is saying. It could be that McNamee did save things and was thinking of blackmailing Clemens, even if Clemens was clean.
If the Yankees are smart, they’ll have Cone spend some time with Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy and the rest of their young pitchers.
Cone should be a rabbi to those guys, but first, he’ll have to spell his name correctly.
David Cohen.
Works for me!
jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge
February 6th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Yeah I don’t understand how he can’t judge a fly ball either. But neither can a lot of fans that go to games. I sit there and here everyone cheering thinking it is going to be a homerun. I’m like people it is going to be caught! Sure enough it is caught in semi shallow cf.
I cant understand why i do it either. I must jump up and cheer in Anaheim of Los Angeles of California, United States, at least 3 times a game. When the Yankees are in town. I cant throw stones at Kay on that one. If you want to know. It is really embarrassing doing that in a visitors park. Maybe theirs a class or pill Kay and myself can take for premature homerun symptom.
As per WFAN Brian McNamee has turned over “physical evidence” implicating Roger Clemens to performance enhancing drug use to gov’t authorities.
I think Kay suffers more from the same syndrome that had the TV people declaring states in elections before the votes were counted. Just wants to be first, over being right.
A little late with that piece of info. We’re discussing it. You know cops do fabricate evidence.
A little late with that piece of info. We’re discussing it. You know cops do fabricate evidence.
—Spoken like a true defense attorney
Old Goat,
I think you nailed it. Bloody gauze and used syringes are Bio hazards and any professional treats them as such. There is not only no reason to keep them it is illegal. Therefore the only logical reason for him to keep them, knowing the kind of sleaze this guy is, would be for blackmail purposes. During the taped conversation with Roger they both seemed to be dancing around the subject of Roger helping “Mac” out financially. Clemens couldn’t come out and say it as it could be used to charge him with tampering with a Federal witness.
I have little doubt McNamee is the type to extort money given his past conduct.
To hold onto things is premeditation for blackmail at a later date.
IF Roger did steroids, he should’ve been smarter about it. You can’t trust anyone.
I’d laugh though if the syringes didn’t even have Roger’s DNA on them. Like McNamee was trying to fool the suits on the Hill. Why no mention of them earlier? I’m sure that the lawyers would’ve leaked it somehow.
I wonder how long McNamee is going to be questioned. The first question since learning this latest move by McNamee would be “why would you even keep anything like this?” Then follow it up by asking how do we know that you didn’t manufacture this evidence and tamper with it.
Heck, I can think of about 20 questions right off the top of my head that would probably be better than any this committee has asked.
Whole lotta excuses being made for a guy that looks guiltier by the day.
Mel, McNamee only just got the evidence finished yesterday, so he wasn’t withholding evidence before.
I’ll trade you the my Knicks for the Nets any day of the week, except keep coach Frank.
So NYPD113th agrees with us that McNamee looks worse for all this. That’s comforting. [/sarcasm]
i have no idea what to think of this revelation, but the one question i would have is how come this didn’t come out earlier?
in other words, McNamee did hide this evidence from Mitchell. why?
why now?
also, could Clemens have made such a poor miscalculation? it would strike me as GROSSLY negligent for his lawyers to let him give a 5 hour deposition yesterday if there was even the slightest possibility that physical evidence existed.
i have no idea what to think. it really has gotten bizarre.
If anyone is in the medical profession, or has knowledge of it. Can you remove a neddle from the syringe? Could he have saved a neddle and replaced Rogers neddle on a syringe that he put roids into?
Question to anyone with access to a trainers room in a clubhouse. There are injections given all the time. Cortisone, B-12 (lol), Lidocaine (lol), among others. Is there a red box to put these used syringes? And if they were done in Roger’s apartment like McNamee claims, why would Roger let him take any syringes knowing it would trip him up? I’m not saying he’s innocent, just playing devil’s advocate.
very strange article. McNamee turne over evidence to the justice department’s BALCO investigators? Are there still BALCO investigators? Didn’t Victor Conte already do time and get out? I know there are still investigations about perjury and tax evasion regarding Bonds, but is there still an active BALCO investigation?
Yanks signed Tino to compete for 1B too!
Okay, not really, it’s just official he’ll be at ST:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3233987
Another question, this is a biohazard, so if he did indeed keep used neddles, isn’t it illegal and he could be prosecuted?
“Another question, this is a biohazard, so if he did indeed keep used neddles, isn’t it illegal and he could be prosecuted?”
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, they’ll persue that ‘possession of medical waste charge’........what could be their main evidence in this huge case.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3233878
oh,yes…this HAS to be true…If that scumbag trainer really had this evidence, why didn’t he give it to Mitchell ? This is a guy who says that Clemens’ treated him BETTER than family ? What a flippin’ joke this whole thing is !
Hey it was just a question, so the answer is yes. Thank you for answering kind sir.
oh, and 113th, you are hated by 99% here, just so that you know !
“oh, and 113th, you are hated by 99% here, just so that you know !”
—Ooooo a pollster. That was vicious Donny.
What’s next? A mommy joke? LMAO
mel,
as much as i love Kidd, if he doesn’t want to be here, he isn’t going to help this team win. i’m not sure of what talent we would have/could have gotten for him, i leave that to thorn.
Rebecca,
if not the IZOD center, where?
Eee! Welcome back Tino!
See my post above about the fact that if McNamee kept that stuff either the DNA is destroyed or he was planning on busting Clemens from the get go.
Yes, and Einstein,,,it is not spelled pErsue…that would be PURSUE….I know you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to be a cop, but get a clue Vern !
Thanks for the Tino article! Made my day.
saucy: Anywhere! Okay, so the only other place I’ve been to is the Garden, but I mean, when I sit in the first row and STILL don’t have leg room?
That’s saying something, and it’s not like I need to lose weight, either.
Oh…so cool…you are LMAO ???.....You must have the best of all lives….I sit in front of a computer and spew forth so much stupidity, and when someone cuts me down…I am LMAO !!! You are the best !
Why would he only keep proof on Clemens? If he injected as many guys as he claims to have, he should have this evidence for all of them.
“Oh…so cool…you are LMAO ???…..You must have the best of all lives….I sit in front of a computer and spew forth so much stupidity, and when someone cuts me down…I am LMAO !!! You are the best !”
—WOW! I picture Peter Griffin as I read this.
As far as “the best of all lives”, I’ll get back to you on that gem.
Don’t be angry at me because Roger is a cheat Don, it’s not my fault.
nypd, where’s your bar at? i may be in long island soon.
Why wasn’t there all this defense of Barry Bonds all along?
“nypd, where’s your bar at? i may be in long island soon.”
– Port Jefferson
never saw a game at the garden… i saw a circus there when i was a kid though… and walked by the place a ton when i worked in mid-town. i miss golden krust.
Lets assume that the syringes do have Rogers dna on them, and they did contain roids. The only reason to keep them would be to blackmail him. So we are taking the word of a man who has been plotting against Roger for 7 years.
With there being no chain of evidence, this stuff that McNamee came up with wouldn’t be admissible in court. It is far too easy for anyone to doctor up evidence of this nature. McNamee knows this being a former cop.
NYPD113th, this would not be used as “main evidence” because any lawyer would be able to tear it apart for being factual. No lawyer would try to use it in court. It was used for the sensationalism it will stir up, and congress might just fall for it, after all, it is all about what definition of “is” you are using.
This sudden evidence is suspicious. Where was this from the Mitchell investigation? Then again, Mitchell didn’t require any proof, he was fine with hearsay and rumors to declare people guilty.
on long island not in long island
I think the exact how Cone handled the pressure might not be the best model for the kids.
Wish Leiter and O’Neill were out of the booth.
As for McNamee, he must really have had some deep interpersonal issues with Clemens right from the get-go to save medical waste for seven or eight years. Not that any of it would hold up in court. Creepy. Yes you can remove a needle from a syringe.
well, i’m sure his bar is kinda cave-like… so i’m going with “in”
Jennifer,the point is how do you prove that the two came there at the same time? If McNamee wanted to frame Clemens, if he wanted to at some point get further money from Clemens through blackmail, he could have just as easily kept syringes that were used to inject B-12 shots and then doctored them with Steroids.
In a court case it is necessary to show who had hold of the evidence. Part of that is to show who could have had means to tamper with it. This is stuff not meant to do anything but give the court of public opinion something more to talk about.
Michael Kay is the braindead loser who went apoplectic at the suggestion that, because of tradition, announcers shouldn’t mentioned no-hitters in progress. He managed to equate the situation with slavery and the Holocaust in the course of about 3 minutes of his mouth breathing radio show.
He clearly holds personal grudges. He doesn’t benefit from having press box seats, because he clearly can’t judge or track fly balls. His suggestions about strategy are often ludicrous.
He is a true embarrassment to the Yankees.
Roger Clemens and Michael Kay should walk into the sunset together. Two clowns who worked actively to fashion the Yankees image negatively: self-entitled, loudmouth louts with inferiority/superiority complexes. Though Michael, I guess, probably wasn’t shooting needles into his buttocks.
“well, i’m sure his bar is kinda cave-like”
– EXACTKY.
The bar is like a cave. No fat chics in my cave either saucy, so you may want to rethink showin up.
I thought the best booths last year were any combination of Leiter/Girardi/Flaherty and the worst one’s were the one’s that were just Kay and Singleton. Hopefully Coney slides into Girardi’s spot and offers the same insight he did. But I have a feeling most nights, I’m going to turn on the game and see Kay and Singleton and wind up hitting the SAP button by the third inning.
This whole clemens thing is getting out of hand. The more this goes on, the more i think this is not a case of good guy vs bad guy no matter who you think the good guy is. This is bad guy vs. bad guy. So i formally announce I no longer care about the Clemens/McNamee soap opera. no matter who wins, clemens is scarred for life.
Old Goat, you are 100% right, and just looking on some message boards, it is working in the court of public opinion. They are automatically believing it with out asking questions. The biggest one being why in the world someone would save something like this, and how can we be 100% sure that it wasn’t doctored.
I will always, uh, appreciate, uh, what Bobby Murcer, uh, has meant for the, uh, franchise, and I’m glad that he, uh, has recovered, but c’mon. He’s a Yankees apologist with no insight whatsoever—except that, and maybe you didn’t know this, the Monuments used to be on the field (cue shot of Murcer chasing ball)
As for Ken Singleton – let’s sum it up thusly: if he’s in the booth with one other person, that would mean that there are TWO people in the booth. If there are two other people, that would mean that THREE people total are in the booth.
Well at least it’s stealing a bit of news from the Mets, even if it is stupid and pointless news. evil Yankee laugh
No matter who’s in the booth, we’re going to pick on them. That’s the nature of blogs. I’m just glad we don’t have the Chicago crew. Or Keith Hernandez. yuck. Besides, it’s fun when you’re listening and you realize that you know more about baseball than Kay.
“– Ooooo a pollster. That was vicious Donny.
What’s next? A mommy joke? LMAO”
Nope. 18-1!
raymagnetic remind me again who went 18-1?
The cynic in me says that the feds, or Justice department, don’t remember which one’s controlling this, pressed McNamee to produce something, anything; so I don’t expect there to be questions about the evidence from their side.
Guilty, innocent, doesn’t matter anymore; the powers that be want Roger to go down.
Hey NYPD 113th,
I’ll be on the Island a lot soon. Where is that barroom ?
Any hints ? Soggy food ? Flat beer ? Low lifes for patrons ? Brawls ? Clean ? Dirty ? Got a liquor license ?
“raymagnetic remind me again who went 18-1?”
I think NYPD113th wants to be reminded as well about his New England Patriots.
NYPD113th – what bar on Port Jeff??
As I see it, Michael Kay has no redeeming qualities. He does not understand the value of silence, of letting the game speak for itself when called for. He is also unbelievably trite, sententious, and has appointed himself some kind of moral arbiter. The only time he is tolerable is when he defers to the color people. I am also so sick of his transparent envy of Derek Jeter – his looks, his money and his women. Does Kay think the audience is interested in his wannabe, frustrated libido? He also has the habit of summarizing old news over and over again, as if Yankee broadcasts were national radio; Yankee fans are already intimate with the facts, but he feels he has to regurgitate the same old crap, over and over. He does NOT understand the game, and finds a morality play when none suggests itself. And further: his voice is SHRILL. He – and Sterling – are both an embarassment to sports’ greatest franchise.
No comeback for the Pats thing. I now know how you Yankee fans feel- forced to bask in past glory. Sigh.
Kat- after some of the personal stuff posted here and people posting under my name, I’d rather not say, sorry.
Where does the facade for the new Yankee Stadium come from ?
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080206/SPORTS/802060464/1247/SPORTS
The new Yankee Stadium is lookin pretty cool.
CitiField also lookin great.
a) we are talking about a guy who “tampered” with a woman’s drink right before he raped her
b) i believe there are strict procedures required to have DNA evidence be admissible. its unlikely McNamee did any of them.
Kat,
it shouldnt be too hard to find out which bar in Port Jeff is owned by a fired police officer.
“it shouldnt be too hard to find out which bar in Port Jeff is owned by a fired police officer.”
– Fired? WOW!
Actually I got 3/4’s, I got hurt on duty, but thanks.
whatever makes you feel better buddy.
if/when anyone figures out which one it is, be sure to let us all know.
How many bars are there in Port Jeff? Try visiting everyone. Not all in one night of course.
“whatever makes you feel better buddy.
if/when anyone figures out which one it is, be sure to let us all know.”
– LMAO, what a bytch, relax Francis.
I am a little nervous, especially from a guy whom is nervous over another guy who uses roofies to bang chics.
Hit a little close to home Provincetown Dave?
every one. edit button!
Mel, you are kidding right?
You think I’d tell you where I am, ESPECIALLY after some of the childish crap aimed at me?
I really hope people listen to what I am feeding them and waste their time.
NYPD,
im looking forward to meeting you at your bar. we’ll see what you have to say then.
“im looking forward to meeting you at your bar. we’ll see what you have to say then.”
– Probably ask you if you want another cosmo. What else would I say?
like i said, we WILL see. count on it.
Erik Bedard may finally be on his way to Seattle for a physical, according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.
John Hickey, who said yesterday that he thought the deal would be announced today, is now saying Friday at the earliest. The Orioles are expected to acquire Adam Jones, George Sherrill, Chris Tillman, Kam Mickolio and Tony Butler from the Mariners for Bedard.
Source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer
“like i said, we WILL see. count on it.”
– LMFAO!
Wow! Good stuff Provincetown!
That’s my point NYPD, they’d have a good time, even if it is on a wild goose chase.
And really, no one’s doing anything to you.
Why so angry Mr. Dave? Are you truly that thin-skinned?
NYPD113th Must be a real high class joint, toilet paper in the men’s room and all.
“That’s my point NYPD, they’d have a good time, even if it is on a wild goose chase.
And really, no one’s doing anything to you.”
– Of course not mel! I know that, but just the thought is rather humorous, is it not?
“NYPD113th Must be a real high class joint, toilet paper in the men’s room and all.”
—Soemtimes….......soap too at the beginning of the month
Actually, all you probably need to do to find NYPD113th’s bar is look for the one that is empty. With the comments he makes here, I think it would be safe to assume that he has no friends, no customers.
NYPD,
give me your email and i’ll answer that question. this blog isnt the place.
I would guess NYPD’s is the type of place you get thrown into not out of.
The ambience, the smell of new urine cakes.
“Actually, all you probably need to do to find NYPD113th’s bar is look for the one that is empty. With the comments he makes here, I think it would be safe to assume that he has no friends, no customers.”
– Ba-Zing Goat! That was a gem there.
The way you skillfully noted which bar would be mine and then swooped in with that vicious “no friends” dig.
If I wasn’t so stumped I might’ve thrown back something just as effective, like, “I know you are but what am I”.
If I am not mistaken, I believe in the Mitchell report McNamee stated that Roger supplied his own steroids and that McNamee didn’t know where he got it, and couldn’t remember the exact name of the steroids.
Is it really too far a stretch to think that IF Clemens did use steroids/HGH, IF he supplied his own, then wouldn’t he have also supplied his own needles and also discarded them himself as well? That he would be extra careful with the “evidence” of any PED use?
Anyway, I am sick of the whole thing. Sick. Of. It.
I am happy, however, that Tino will be in spring training, and that Cone is going to be at YES.
Today was cleaning day, upstairs away from the computer, so I had M and the MD on (which, I know, I had sworn never to watch again, but Santana was on, what could I do?). Chris Russo is just aggravating. I absolutely hate his “interviews” and I finally figured out why. He can’t just ask a question. He has to interject his own opinions within the question! And this has the effect of making his opinion sound like fact. AND he so blatantly hates the Yankees or anything American League. AND he’s an idiot. And I wonder if he EVER played ANY baseball at ANY level. And he is rude. And he can’t let anything go.
I felt bad for David Wright, who was courteous enough to give an interview and all Russo did was grill him on the things that went wrong last season. I mean harp on them. (In fairness, Mike F. was doing the same at that point.)
So, even when the subject matter should be positive (introducing Johann to New York), it still ends up being difficult to watch.
Boston Dave, watch yourself, based on his he-man bravado, I’m guessing he packs, little man syndrome.
Could you all please stop engaging NYPD whatever in “conversation?” It’s never pleasant.
“NYPD,
give me your email and i’ll answer that question. this blog isnt the place.”
– LMAO, sure, I’ll give you my email to let some angry guy send me threats. Again, take your meds Provincetown and get a grip.
Anyways, feel free to say to me whatever you like. I won’t go whining to Pete or anything.
I’m a big boy, I’ll be able to handle it
mel-
So Pau Gasol had a pretty crappy debut last night huh? JK
“Could you all please stop engaging NYPD whatever in “conversation?” It’s never pleasant.”
– Thanks Dorreen. Twice I tried to turn the discussion back to baseball, yet it was kept personal by others.
Mel, are you serious?
mel, you lie. I don’t see it.
NYPD,
If you feel that you’re being harassed, I suggest that you report it to the authorities.
NYPD
Man you sure know how to piss off some Yankee fans here. Iv never seen any troll come in and end up getting people wanting to go to his place of employment to beat his A$$. You always say you like coming here and getting Yankee fans all riled up. Youv done this. Was it really worth it? Iv had some decent conversations with you. Theres hope. I think your just a Yankee fan and dont want us to know your in the closet about it. I just want to ask you one thing thats been on my mind. Is it true you serve flat beer and all, caveman style?
Come to the DARK SIDE 113. Or better yet stay where your at. The bridge is burned.
“If you feel that you’re being harassed, I suggest that you report it to the authorities.”
– HA! Good line mel.
NO SNITCHIN!
Rebecca,
Boy do I have a bridge to sell you! Look at the post above my edit post. I said everyone when I meant every one. I was asking for an edit button.
“Is it true you serve flat beer and all,”
—Only the tap beer is flat. LOL!
Can we go back to talking about Tino?
What is Tino going to be doing at spring training?
What is Tino going to be doing at spring training, Lori?
mel:
...Dang! I’ve been reading too much Tudor propaganda.
Thesis and all that. Told myself I’d get four pages done today and I have barely one.
I fail at life.
According to the story he is a special trainer or something like that. Looks like he’s been working with Shelly at 1st base. Very cool. Worth the price of admission!
Man this gets old.
Subjects we talk about.
Steroids
Santana
Hughes
movies
80’s
actors
Steroids
Santana
Hughes
C.C.
12 first basemans for spring training
Legal mumbo jumbo
Melky is the best
Bruney going to throwing chairs ananymous
NYPD
Did i miss anything?
When does Pitchers/Catchers report?
SOS….........Luckily the Piss Bear hibernates during the winter months, so be not afraid.
It would be great if Shelley could win the job outright, but I guess they’re pretty set on some kind of a platoon. I’m still a litte leary of whether the Shelley we say last year is the one that’s here to stay. Watching him in the minors, he was not nearly as impressive. But I will say that last season he didn’t just swing for the fences; he took some pitches and had some nice regular hits. So maybe he just matured late.
And it’s got to help him immensely if he’s working on defense with Tino!
SOS27 –
You are so right. But right now, there’s nothing else, and I suspect we all kinda hang out here waiting for more?
Guys,
NYPD is like a pet. He just wants you to play with him. Play nicely and he won’t bite, right, NYPD?
‘tis official now, Shaq to the Suns, Marion and Banks to the Heat
Mel,
But what does that mean? (Play nicely with NYPD, that is.) I never respond to him, and I have never seen any exchange with him that ends well.
“NYPD is like a pet. He just wants you to play with him. Play nicely and he won’t bite, right, NYPD?”
-Arff!
I always play nicely and but balls here and there. I try not to get personal or pull a Boston Dave and insinuate threats.
NYPD,
Springs around the corner. Not to worry i dont drink beer. Ill stick to my tough guy Smirnoff Ice. One too many hang overs as a kid. As far as your customers go. Theyr probably used to that smell in Fenway.lol
Why not just have Mattingly come in to help the young guys. Now that he is back here.
Buddy,
It was awful. Awfully good!
I’m so sad. I wish Shaq was coming back to LA. Just kidding. At least the East teams don’t have to deal with Shaq. Just kidding again.
Seriously, I’m not overlooking the good that Shaq will do. They had to get away from the small ball. Last I checked they still had the best record in the West. The West just got wilder.
Who’s your team, Buddy?
I love everyone on the broadcasting team except Singleton. Ever notice he works the Oriole’s into every broadcast?
I don’t know why, but that really seems to annoy me.
Get rid of Singleton and get me Oscar Gamble! We need the return of the Big O!
I agree with you Doreen. Given the buzz on Shelly I was afraid what we might see when he arrived. I was pleasantly surprised by his patience at the plate. I didn’t get enough of a look at him in the field though to see if can move to get some range at 1st base. Big lanky guys are sometimes very awkward. It would be great if Tino really could help him with that.
[everyone – focus—BASEBALL! BASEBALL!]
Doreen,
I think he thrives off of witty repartee without getting personal. Although he does have a mean streak.
Lori –
Agree on not having noticed his fielding. He didn’t really get much of a chance to play first base, though did he? I know some outfield, and dh, of course.
But I just checked and he played 9 games at 1B, 10 DH, 8 in RF and 4 in LF. Guess he didn’t make much of an impression!
No errors, either!
Doreen,
I feel like im in the Tom Hanks movie where he is so bored stuck on an island. That he starts talking to a ball and calls him Wilson. NYPD is sort of a Wilson here. Iv never had a problem with him. But i see that he’s rubbed people the wrong way.At least its passing time and not talking about Clemens,Santana etc. Cant wait to get going next week. Till then i’ll continue to shoot the shh about other stuff. Hope they all come in in goood shape. Especially Damon. My prediction is a better record this year than last.
I know there are a lot of people scratching their heads over the Shaq trade. When I heard about it, one thing I thought of was that the Suns were bringing him in to help get more fans in the seats. Even though he is near the end of his career, he is still a draw. People like the guy. He can also fill a more defensive roll, if he is willing to change his game a bit.
I’ll be curious to see what kind of shape Damon comes in this season. Honestly, Abreu, Melky, Giambi and Damon all came in a bit over weight. All of them slimmed down through the season, but could be part of the reason for the terrible start, aside from the pitching woes.
Of course, starting the season with Pavano probably put a curse on the Yankees.
There’s one thingthat could seriously impact the Yankee’s pitching situation that’s often overlooked.How will Andy Pettitte be impacted by his congressional testimony? I think legally he will come out fine. But it remains to be seen where his head will be at when it’s all said and done. Andy could very well become the most important question mark this Spring. The Yanks can’t afford to be without him.
The Yankees are not the favorites, so I’d imagine they all should be pretty motivated to be in their BEST shape.
They’re bringing back Flaherty to catch. You can’t full me. The always bring John Flaherty back to catch. You’re sitting there, enjoying the game, and the next thing you know, Flaherty is behind the plate.
Damn Yankees.
I still don’t trust Cone after all those sexual harassment / rape accusations.
Masturbating in the bullpen? Really? That’s not what I want to have to think about during a game.