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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/06/evidence-against-clemens/comment-page-2/#comment-253363</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only one reason to keep this stuff (if it is real):  Blackmail.

At the same time, if he truly had anything with old Clemens blood on it (pretty disgusting) it would be fairly for him to fabricate this old evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one reason to keep this stuff (if it is real):  Blackmail.</p>
<p>At the same time, if he truly had anything with old Clemens blood on it (pretty disgusting) it would be fairly for him to fabricate this old evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Goat</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/06/evidence-against-clemens/comment-page-2/#comment-253307</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, this evidence doesn&#039;t prove anything as it could be manufactured. What bothers me the most about McNamee is he keeps coming out with new things he just &quot;remembered&quot;. Suddenly, when he has a legal action brought against him he has syringes and gauze and vials? 

How does giving damning testimony that filled more of the report than on any other figure named give Clemens wiggle room? Giving the evidence up front shows more for his complete disclosure, him keeping it back, if that is what he truly did, points to nefarious motives behind holding this stuff.

There could be two ways to take his comments during the taped phone call. One could have been where he was looking for money but couldn&#039;t come out and say it. He kept asking what do you want me to do, and frankly he used the pretext of his son&#039;s illness to get Clemens to contact him, yet he didn&#039;t ask Clemens to talk to his son.

The man is a con job. This evidence he provided might just show that he tampered with it, and if he did, then his whole testimony comes into question. There has been plenty of time for this evidence he gave to have been tested by now. The Feds could possibly be setting McNamee up for a fall if they have evidence that it was tampered with. Remember, he was already being threatened with jail.

Clemens is coming across too much like the man wronged here. McNamee keeps acting like my kids do when I catch them in a lie. They keep compounding it, giving &quot;new&quot; information to bolster their case.

It will be interesting to see what gets said in the public portion of these hearings. The questions they ask will be giving you a good idea of what these people believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, this evidence doesn&#8217;t prove anything as it could be manufactured. What bothers me the most about McNamee is he keeps coming out with new things he just &#8220;remembered&#8221;. Suddenly, when he has a legal action brought against him he has syringes and gauze and vials? </p>
<p>How does giving damning testimony that filled more of the report than on any other figure named give Clemens wiggle room? Giving the evidence up front shows more for his complete disclosure, him keeping it back, if that is what he truly did, points to nefarious motives behind holding this stuff.</p>
<p>There could be two ways to take his comments during the taped phone call. One could have been where he was looking for money but couldn&#8217;t come out and say it. He kept asking what do you want me to do, and frankly he used the pretext of his son&#8217;s illness to get Clemens to contact him, yet he didn&#8217;t ask Clemens to talk to his son.</p>
<p>The man is a con job. This evidence he provided might just show that he tampered with it, and if he did, then his whole testimony comes into question. There has been plenty of time for this evidence he gave to have been tested by now. The Feds could possibly be setting McNamee up for a fall if they have evidence that it was tampered with. Remember, he was already being threatened with jail.</p>
<p>Clemens is coming across too much like the man wronged here. McNamee keeps acting like my kids do when I catch them in a lie. They keep compounding it, giving &#8220;new&#8221; information to bolster their case.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see what gets said in the public portion of these hearings. The questions they ask will be giving you a good idea of what these people believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Balboni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Balboni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps he didn&#039;t bring the evidence forward earlier since he was trying to protect Clemens.  He could have been holding it in the hope that it wouldn&#039;t be needed.  Now that Clemens has said that McNamee is lying, McNamee can at least prove that he wasn&#039;t lying.  If this evidence exists, Clemens is screwed.  Without the evidence, there was gray area.

Telling the Feds that he injected Clemens at least gives Clemens some wiggle room, and the opportunity for Clemens to admit it and move on.  Giving the Feds that evidence upfront complete screws Roger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps he didn&#8217;t bring the evidence forward earlier since he was trying to protect Clemens.  He could have been holding it in the hope that it wouldn&#8217;t be needed.  Now that Clemens has said that McNamee is lying, McNamee can at least prove that he wasn&#8217;t lying.  If this evidence exists, Clemens is screwed.  Without the evidence, there was gray area.</p>
<p>Telling the Feds that he injected Clemens at least gives Clemens some wiggle room, and the opportunity for Clemens to admit it and move on.  Giving the Feds that evidence upfront complete screws Roger.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS Does anyone kho is paying for McNamee&#039;s lawyers? I didn&#039;t get the impression that he had the means to support a legal team for this length of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS Does anyone kho is paying for McNamee&#8217;s lawyers? I didn&#8217;t get the impression that he had the means to support a legal team for this length of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/06/evidence-against-clemens/comment-page-2/#comment-253279</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t trust anything that McNamee says at this point. If he told me the sun was shining, I would have to go outside and look before I believed him.
This &quot;evidence&quot; was only given the the Feds in January? Why only in January? It&#039;s tough for me to believe that when the Feds interrogated McNamee much earlier and when McNamee was interviewed for the Mitchell report, no one asked McNamee if he had any physical evidence to support his claims. We&#039;re now supposed to believe that somehow, this evidence, available at the time of those earlier interrogations, just wasn&#039;t requested by the Feds or by Mitchell or just wasn&#039;t provided by McNamee? I don&#039;t buy it.
I think Andy Pettitte&#039;s testimony will have have a lot of weight in deciding whether it&#039;s Clemens or McNamee who is not being truthful. Pettitte at least has credibility....McNamee has none in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t trust anything that McNamee says at this point. If he told me the sun was shining, I would have to go outside and look before I believed him.<br />
This &#8220;evidence&#8221; was only given the the Feds in January? Why only in January? It&#8217;s tough for me to believe that when the Feds interrogated McNamee much earlier and when McNamee was interviewed for the Mitchell report, no one asked McNamee if he had any physical evidence to support his claims. We&#8217;re now supposed to believe that somehow, this evidence, available at the time of those earlier interrogations, just wasn&#8217;t requested by the Feds or by Mitchell or just wasn&#8217;t provided by McNamee? I don&#8217;t buy it.<br />
I think Andy Pettitte&#8217;s testimony will have have a lot of weight in deciding whether it&#8217;s Clemens or McNamee who is not being truthful. Pettitte at least has credibility&#8230;.McNamee has none in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
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		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OG:

&quot;I believe that McNamee and his lawyer are trying to do what they can to sway the court of public opinion. These efforts make me wonder how truthful McNamee is being with all this.&quot;

Exactly. 

Did McNamee tell Mitchell about this? He had to be completely truthful in order to get his deal and Mitchell has said clearly several times since that he believed him. So, if McNamee had this evidence, why didn&#039;t he bring it forward and ask the Feds to examine it then? Will the Feds say they knew about it but felt it wasn&#039;t necessary to do a costly analysis because they already had McNamee&#039;s &quot;credible&quot; testimony? Or was it because the Feds had doubts then and didn&#039;t want to know whether McNamee was really lying? 

Or did McNamee simply fail to bring it up to the Feds? Isn&#039;t holding back a little insurance policy for oneself a form of incomplete disclosure that should cost McNamee his deal? 

And I thought this wasn&#039;t a criminal investigation. So why are the Feds still using expensive taxpayer criminal investigative resources to help this scummer McNamee with his civil legal troubles? Makes the Feds look even less objective than they did months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OG:</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe that McNamee and his lawyer are trying to do what they can to sway the court of public opinion. These efforts make me wonder how truthful McNamee is being with all this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. </p>
<p>Did McNamee tell Mitchell about this? He had to be completely truthful in order to get his deal and Mitchell has said clearly several times since that he believed him. So, if McNamee had this evidence, why didn&#8217;t he bring it forward and ask the Feds to examine it then? Will the Feds say they knew about it but felt it wasn&#8217;t necessary to do a costly analysis because they already had McNamee&#8217;s &#8220;credible&#8221; testimony? Or was it because the Feds had doubts then and didn&#8217;t want to know whether McNamee was really lying? </p>
<p>Or did McNamee simply fail to bring it up to the Feds? Isn&#8217;t holding back a little insurance policy for oneself a form of incomplete disclosure that should cost McNamee his deal? </p>
<p>And I thought this wasn&#8217;t a criminal investigation. So why are the Feds still using expensive taxpayer criminal investigative resources to help this scummer McNamee with his civil legal troubles? Makes the Feds look even less objective than they did months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Goat</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/06/evidence-against-clemens/comment-page-2/#comment-253212</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murphydog,

Seems we are of like minds on the suspicious nature of this &quot;evidence&quot;. 

I believe that McNamee and his lawyer are trying to do what they can to sway the court of public opinion. These efforts make me wonder how truthful McNamee is being with all this.

I think Marcy might have a point as well. Wouldn&#039;t it be hysterical if they do find &quot;blood&quot; to have DNA and it belongs to a fish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murphydog,</p>
<p>Seems we are of like minds on the suspicious nature of this &#8220;evidence&#8221;. </p>
<p>I believe that McNamee and his lawyer are trying to do what they can to sway the court of public opinion. These efforts make me wonder how truthful McNamee is being with all this.</p>
<p>I think Marcy might have a point as well. Wouldn&#8217;t it be hysterical if they do find &#8220;blood&#8221; to have DNA and it belongs to a fish?</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/06/evidence-against-clemens/comment-page-2/#comment-253205</link>
		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No surprise by the way that it&#039;s the Daily News being used to shill for McNamee. The News has become the house organ for the McNamee defense team headed by openly acknowledged Friend of Lupica, Richard Emery. 

If this was the evidentiary bombshell they claim it is, and nothing has been the bombshell they claim it is so far, why leak to the media the fact that this &quot;evidence&quot; was turned over to the Feds? Look at this quote from Emery: 

[Richard Emery, another of McNamee&#039;s lawyers, said the committee will be given a description of the evidence that was turned over to prosecutors.

&quot;It does change the nature of the case from a he-said, she-said to something about physical evidence,&quot; Emery said.]

http://www.optimum.net/News/AP/Article?articleId=381889

If the physical evidence was so unambiguous, there is no need for Emery to parse his words so precisely and awkwardly. If DNA, serology and toxicology analysis shows that McNamee is telling the truth, why would he need his lawyer to tell us what the evidence shows? It would speak for itself, loud and clear. 

Given the flawed chain of custody (allowing for tampering by an interested witness who is defending a defamation suit), plus the dubious timing of McNamee&#039;s decision to turn over the &quot;evidence,&quot; and the highly unlikely possibility that perishable DNA evidence was properly preserved for 6 or 7 years outside of a lab, rest assured that McNamee&#039;s lawyers are spinning as hard as they can. But why? Looks like Emery and McNamee are feeling the heat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise by the way that it&#8217;s the Daily News being used to shill for McNamee. The News has become the house organ for the McNamee defense team headed by openly acknowledged Friend of Lupica, Richard Emery. </p>
<p>If this was the evidentiary bombshell they claim it is, and nothing has been the bombshell they claim it is so far, why leak to the media the fact that this &#8220;evidence&#8221; was turned over to the Feds? Look at this quote from Emery: </p>
<p>[Richard Emery, another of McNamee's lawyers, said the committee will be given a description of the evidence that was turned over to prosecutors.</p>
<p>"It does change the nature of the case from a he-said, she-said to something about physical evidence," Emery said.]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.optimum.net/News/AP/Article?articleId=381889" rel="nofollow">http://www.optimum.net/News/AP.....eId=381889</a></p>
<p>If the physical evidence was so unambiguous, there is no need for Emery to parse his words so precisely and awkwardly. If DNA, serology and toxicology analysis shows that McNamee is telling the truth, why would he need his lawyer to tell us what the evidence shows? It would speak for itself, loud and clear. </p>
<p>Given the flawed chain of custody (allowing for tampering by an interested witness who is defending a defamation suit), plus the dubious timing of McNamee&#8217;s decision to turn over the &#8220;evidence,&#8221; and the highly unlikely possibility that perishable DNA evidence was properly preserved for 6 or 7 years outside of a lab, rest assured that McNamee&#8217;s lawyers are spinning as hard as they can. But why? Looks like Emery and McNamee are feeling the heat.</p>
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		<title>By: vrsce</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/06/evidence-against-clemens/comment-page-2/#comment-253190</link>
		<dc:creator>vrsce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa

Move over to a political blog and take your agenda with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa</p>
<p>Move over to a political blog and take your agenda with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree - there is something very strange and vindictive in presenting this new &quot;evidence&quot; at this time. Since we know that McNamee had the drugs, the proper types of syringes and there is no problem getting cotton I wonder what he was doing with Roger&#039;s fishing gear shortly before the Mitchell Report came out. Could it be that he knew there was some old blood there and that was why he was calling and asking for his gear? Roger&#039;s attorneys are going back up to the hill tomorrow and somehow I don&#039;t think much will come of this so-called evidence; it has been too long. This is just more of Roger&#039;s buddy trying to turn the public against Roger. I guess Roger didn&#039;t give him enough over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree &#8211; there is something very strange and vindictive in presenting this new &#8220;evidence&#8221; at this time. Since we know that McNamee had the drugs, the proper types of syringes and there is no problem getting cotton I wonder what he was doing with Roger&#8217;s fishing gear shortly before the Mitchell Report came out. Could it be that he knew there was some old blood there and that was why he was calling and asking for his gear? Roger&#8217;s attorneys are going back up to the hill tomorrow and somehow I don&#8217;t think much will come of this so-called evidence; it has been too long. This is just more of Roger&#8217;s buddy trying to turn the public against Roger. I guess Roger didn&#8217;t give him enough over the years.</p>
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