my father was involved in painting Shea Stadium in the 1980s – he was supervising his company’s work on the project. the reason Shea was painted with that purplish-blue color, instead of Mets blue, is because the architect didn’t give directions on the color, and apparently expressed indifference to the exact hue. My dad’s company had some extra paint around and using it cost them nothing, and the architect approved.

my dad has done a lot of work with architects – his shops would implement their blueprints. He has been involved in a lot of buildings – often large-scale projects, WTC, working w/I.M. Pie. The point being his credentials are solid. He’s often said the architects come up with completely impractical designs, etc.

Whether the multistory sports bar in the middle of the bleachers is the fault of the architects or of the Yankees – we don’t know. My point is only that since my dad knows what he’s talking about in this field, it’s not correct to assume the architects aren’t to blame here. they’re just human beings

“We need a bar in center field! That’ll make a helluva lot more money than bleacher seats or that damned empty black space!”

“Okay but the your fans on both sides won’t be able to see the play in opposite fields.”

“Just make it work! I’m paying the bills here!”

Im not reading that.. not sure anybody is. post it in the appropriate thread if you want anyone to read your mindless drivel. its a little pathetic to take a clip from this afternoon and paste it into a thread hours later. and your analogies are almost as poor as your math skills. your (as usual, poor) assumptions are WAY off. but that’s not a surprise.

So now, once you’ve obtained from a shrunken pool of tix, there’s now a huge obstruction in the middle of the cheap seats.

i can’t even process that. Why the $#%$ does anyone need a $#%$ing sports bar in Yankee Stadium. i mean it’s exactly not a bad place to have a drink and watch a ballgame. O yeah, except now it will be in the bleachers, because there’s a sports bar $#%$ing in my way.

as a Yankee fan, i feel embarrassed by the sports bar. it has to be fixed. This is Yankee Stadium.

If I play someone my equal in racquetball and beat them, I feel good. If I play someone better then me and beat them, I feel VERY good. If however, I play my friend’s 7 year old daughter and beat her 21-0, I get no satisfaction at all.

The Yankees may always be the most profitable franchise in MLB. They are, after all, the Yankees of New York. However, our financial advantage does give us a competative advantage. Revenue sharing and draft picks do try to balance things out a bit.

Even with the biggest payroll, I am still proud when they win. But there is a limit. I guess they are truly rich enough, especially with YES and the projected income from the new stadium, to trade for Santana. They could also afford get C.C. as a FA, and also get Tex as an FA, and also buy a number of other elite players. Hell, I guess they could have a payroll of $300m and still be financially sound.

But I don’t want them too. It does not appeal to my sense of fair sport or competition. Do I want them to ’sell’ everyone and have a league average-ish payroll of $80m? No, I don’t. One thing about our payroll and money is we get to keep players throughout their careers, even if we overpay and don’t get a great bang for the buck. I’m fine to ‘waste’ money on ARod’s last 3 years, and to insure that Jeter, Mo and Po finish their careers, as Bernie did, as a Yankee. This, to me, is the real benefit of Yankee money and being a Yankee fan.

Who knows, maybe Cano, Phil and a bunch of others will be on that list one day. So to keep our ‘family’ together, I’m OK inflating the payroll to that end.

But like Cashman seems to indicate with his recent behavior, I would prefer for the Yankees to win using drafting and development skills, rather then buying other teams successful players when they becomes FAs. Does this mean I never want to buy a FA again? No. But I want some balance.

Our team now is certainly beginning to reach that balance. We have a number of young players, and hopefully, more coming. Our payroll won’t shrink much, but we should narrow the gap between us and other teams over the next few years.

And to me, this is a worthy goal. If there are those out there that are fine with a $250m-$300m payroll in order to win, so be it. It’s not my idea of sport. It is not the way I aspire to build a winning team.

Keeping Phil and the kids, as well as saving $30+m/yr appeals to me on all sides. I still want to win, and feel we still have as good a shot as anyone. However, when we win a WS by beating Boston for the A.L., when their payroll is larger then ours, I can’t help but think the champagne will taste a little sweeter that year.

It’s practical to have a restaurant in centerfield to at least get some use and not have dead space for the batter’s eye. But the obstructed view seems like something that could have been prevented. Maybe it will give the new stadium some charm.

for the most part, we are joking around. I’m not going to apologize if you are too much of a stiff to pick up on that. this thread is about the new stadium. if some people don’t like the idea of a new stadium, that’s their right. instead of unsuccessfully attempting to ridicule them, why don’t you give your opinion on what will make the new stadium great? instead of coming off like a jackass, give your positive views and maybe you’ll sway some opinions. i wouldn’t bet on that, but its still the right approach.

Make sure if you’re ever mugged that you have someone with a memory like PA with you to provide a good description of the assailents to the authorities.