I was just wondering…. Why wouldnt the Yankees spend some money on a reliable innings eater?(Livan, Kyle Lohse….etc.) and just sign him to a one year deal so we have just another veteran in the rotation? Couldn’t we have just signed them to a one year deal? Who cares about the money for one year just as long as it is not a multi year deal. My friend and I have this discussion all the time, and we are under the school of though that its better to pay the money for a single year, develop the young arms then to sign them to a long term contract.
I know you have been asked this alot… but any thoughts?
I’d be a media bust as a manager in NY. By the time the 3rd question was asked so an article could be writen about Joe Torre, I would have said I understand where you’re trying to go but I’m not coming with you.
In fairness to Joel, if the media plays up differences between the two Joes you know most of us will read it. If you think about it, the only changes from last year are the kids are a year older and the change of Joes. Joel Sherman however, should get his story from the players, not by asking Girardi directly.
I just can’t get past this hardline arbitration crap they’re pulling with Wang. They spent almost 400 million on keeping veterans, and they go to the mat over $600,000 when it comes to a kid who is a big part of their future. Bad PR, bad business.
But dont you think it would certainly benefit the rotation to get a guy in there we know can get the job done? I mean we are putting alot of pressure on these 3 kids. Even though Joba is starting in the pen at the moment, the whole point is to get him into the rotation.
I just think we shouldve made a pitch for one of these guys, Livan, Lohse even Benson maybe.
I don’t think there is as much pressure on these kids as people think.
I don’t think Phil Hughes will pitch in a regular season game this year with as much pressure as he had pitching in Game 3 last year. He wasn’t even healthy and he showed a lot in that outing.
Kennedy? He has pitched in big games in college and on the international front. These kids are pretty mature for their ages. You gotta give them the shot and see if they can get the job done.
They have 3 innings eaters in the rotation right now: Wang, Pettitte and Moose. Three veteran pitchers who have eaten innings as much (or better) when healthy than Livan or Lohse have in their careers.
That leaves two spots open in the rotation for the kids. In the #4 and #5 spots, Hughes and Kennedy can slot in nicely and not be overused in those roles.
If you sign another veteran, one of those kids ends up in Scranton to start the year.
FWIW, I’d rather have them in the Yankees rotation than the Scranton rotation. Their upside is too strong to keep them down.
Wang’s situation was not bad business at all. As has been outlined in the thread, its perfect business for the Yankees. They stayed within the parameters set forth for a pitcher with his service time and success.
Its not bad PR or bad business. Its baseball business. That’s how the system works.
Some additional info I found with regard to pitcher of Wang’s age and status and the arbitration cieling. Take a look here and also go to the pdf with prior to 2005 results.Again i think this backs up the whole idea of setting the arbitration marketplace rather than making it higher. No way it is a bad pr move lets be honest mpost Yankees fans dont even know that Wang had a hearing forget about what the results were all they care about is what his results are on the field.
i would say that hanley ramirez and pujuls are both gonna be fine this year. last year was a down year for albert, expect a bounceback, his runs/steals were down in a weaker offense but he’s a 28 year old stud among studs. Ramirez is only 24 and may drop some in a weaker offense but hes still the best fantasy SS in baseball. you might be able to scoop up albert in late 1st round where he is a bargain, ramirez likely will be gone before then
Pujols has an elbow i,jury that prevents him from extending right arms. I can’t remember which arm it is. From CBS:
“Pujols decided against offseason surgery on his right elbow, a trouble spot for several years, because he would have had to miss a significant portion if not all the 2008 season. Pujols still is unable to straighten his arm, but team doctors concluded that because he plays first base, an operation can be postponed. He said his elbow bothered him the second half of last season, and said if that happens again he wouldn’t try to soldier through it. “If the same problem is happening this year, I don’t think I’m to play the whole year the same way,” Pujols said. “I sacrificed my body.”
SJ44 I couldn’t agree more w/ your take on Joel and George, I mean it’s not even pass day 1 already the’re trying to get Joe fling a microphone in their mouth.
Apparently having a manager who actually took time to scout the prospects and actually went to the international camps in the offseason and is starting to create a competition for your roster spot atmosphere most be a bad thing. And having a 21 yr. old who pitched steller in the postseason when he should have been in the minors is a negative.