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	<title>Comments on: Pettitte says what he has to say</title>
	<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/</link>
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		<title>By: bkight13</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258541</link>
		<dc:creator>bkight13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess TO is a cheater because he uses an oxygen bed to heal more quickly. It is absurd to claim that there is no gray area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess TO is a cheater because he uses an oxygen bed to heal more quickly. It is absurd to claim that there is no gray area.</p>
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		<title>By: no.27</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258538</link>
		<dc:creator>no.27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258538</guid>
		<description>I understand your position that either you took PEDs and cheated or you didn't and you didn't cheat, but I disagree that baseball hasn't had a grey area with respect to cheating in it's history.  I mean, how many stories have you heard from a color commentator in a joking tone about a pitcher that used to throw spit balls.  I guess you would say that they are just as bad as Andy?  

I think the problem that people have with you labeling Andy a cheater is the broad brush stroke that covers him with players that clearly used PEDs on a regular basis to improve their performance.  From what I understand, his statements have been backed up by the Mitchell Report (for whatever that is worth) and he the reason he has given for his use, if nothing else, appeals to the average baseball fan.  He said that he did it because he wanted to be on the field helping his teammates win and earning the substantial amount of money he was being paid.  On top of that he took a total of 3 injections.  Labeling him a cheater lumps him in with players that have gone far beyong what Andy has done.

Another question I have is, do you know if doctors have prescribed HGH to speed up the healing of the type of injuries he had?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your position that either you took PEDs and cheated or you didn&#8217;t and you didn&#8217;t cheat, but I disagree that baseball hasn&#8217;t had a grey area with respect to cheating in it&#8217;s history.  I mean, how many stories have you heard from a color commentator in a joking tone about a pitcher that used to throw spit balls.  I guess you would say that they are just as bad as Andy?  </p>
<p>I think the problem that people have with you labeling Andy a cheater is the broad brush stroke that covers him with players that clearly used PEDs on a regular basis to improve their performance.  From what I understand, his statements have been backed up by the Mitchell Report (for whatever that is worth) and he the reason he has given for his use, if nothing else, appeals to the average baseball fan.  He said that he did it because he wanted to be on the field helping his teammates win and earning the substantial amount of money he was being paid.  On top of that he took a total of 3 injections.  Labeling him a cheater lumps him in with players that have gone far beyong what Andy has done.</p>
<p>Another question I have is, do you know if doctors have prescribed HGH to speed up the healing of the type of injuries he had?</p>
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		<title>By: BobK55</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258530</link>
		<dc:creator>BobK55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258530</guid>
		<description>HGH is NOT a controlled substance, but it does require a prescription from a doctor. Anabolic steroids ARE controlled substances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HGH is NOT a controlled substance, but it does require a prescription from a doctor. Anabolic steroids ARE controlled substances.</p>
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		<title>By: JewelOfSong</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258529</link>
		<dc:creator>JewelOfSong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258529</guid>
		<description>Not sure if someone said this already, so sorry if I'm being redundant. But in response to this part of your post:

"It also was banned by baseball. Using any sort of controlled substance without permission has been illegal in baseball rules since the 1970s."

HGH is not a controlled substance according to federal law (some state laws vary on this). Legally speaking, what he did was the equivalent of taking, say, a puff from an asthma inhaler that he did not have a prescription for. It's not on the same level at all as taking anabolic steroids which is a controlled substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if someone said this already, so sorry if I&#8217;m being redundant. But in response to this part of your post:</p>
<p>&#8220;It also was banned by baseball. Using any sort of controlled substance without permission has been illegal in baseball rules since the 1970s.&#8221;</p>
<p>HGH is not a controlled substance according to federal law (some state laws vary on this). Legally speaking, what he did was the equivalent of taking, say, a puff from an asthma inhaler that he did not have a prescription for. It&#8217;s not on the same level at all as taking anabolic steroids which is a controlled substance.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258526</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258526</guid>
		<description>Tree Rollins etc. I dont give a name to respond to,

You are wrong.  - and there is no gray there.  There are many women that would find some of those things that you say are not cheating to be cheating and there are others that would not.  Therefore it is gray.  Anyway, it is your silly analogy.

I don't read the mag and there is no editing or spell checking on here -- I can forgive misspellings.  I don't forgive arrogance laced with stupidity.  In my experience, people who believe there is always a black and a white and never a gray are fooling themselves or are presently serving as President of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tree Rollins etc. I dont give a name to respond to,</p>
<p>You are wrong.  - and there is no gray there.  There are many women that would find some of those things that you say are not cheating to be cheating and there are others that would not.  Therefore it is gray.  Anyway, it is your silly analogy.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t read the mag and there is no editing or spell checking on here &#8212; I can forgive misspellings.  I don&#8217;t forgive arrogance laced with stupidity.  In my experience, people who believe there is always a black and a white and never a gray are fooling themselves or are presently serving as President of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: deadrody</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258444</link>
		<dc:creator>deadrody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258444</guid>
		<description>PETE SAID: "Mike Mussina didn’t take PEDs, Andy Pettitte did."

Hate to break it to you, but the simple fact is you don't know that.  You can ASSUME that, but you don't know it.  Mussina SAYS he didn't.  That's the extent of it.  

Therein lies the state of MLB today.  There are really only 3 categories - those that have admitted they did, those that are suspected or implicated by one of a few slimeballs, but who we really don't know for sure, and those that aren't implicated, but ALSO we don't really know for sure.  

Yeah, nothing like black and white for me, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETE SAID: &#8220;Mike Mussina didn’t take PEDs, Andy Pettitte did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hate to break it to you, but the simple fact is you don&#8217;t know that.  You can ASSUME that, but you don&#8217;t know it.  Mussina SAYS he didn&#8217;t.  That&#8217;s the extent of it.  </p>
<p>Therein lies the state of MLB today.  There are really only 3 categories - those that have admitted they did, those that are suspected or implicated by one of a few slimeballs, but who we really don&#8217;t know for sure, and those that aren&#8217;t implicated, but ALSO we don&#8217;t really know for sure.  </p>
<p>Yeah, nothing like black and white for me, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: deadrody</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258437</link>
		<dc:creator>deadrody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258437</guid>
		<description>"If you read the deposition, which I doubt you did, the question of whether Pettitte used more than twice was never really pursued. I felt he should be asked whether he has used again. As of a few days ago, it was a question the Yankees wanted to ask them.

So are the Yankees obnoxious too?"

So should I NOT be shocked that Pete sees no difference between himself, a reporter, and the Yankees, Andy's employer ???  I mean give me a break already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you read the deposition, which I doubt you did, the question of whether Pettitte used more than twice was never really pursued. I felt he should be asked whether he has used again. As of a few days ago, it was a question the Yankees wanted to ask them.</p>
<p>So are the Yankees obnoxious too?&#8221;</p>
<p>So should I NOT be shocked that Pete sees no difference between himself, a reporter, and the Yankees, Andy&#8217;s employer ???  I mean give me a break already.</p>
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		<title>By: deadrody</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258435</link>
		<dc:creator>deadrody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258435</guid>
		<description>OMFG.  Hello, Pete ?  We get it.  You are the one true source for all that is right and wrong.  We shall not question you.  It was wrong, and he should never use Viagra that he bought over the net again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG.  Hello, Pete ?  We get it.  You are the one true source for all that is right and wrong.  We shall not question you.  It was wrong, and he should never use Viagra that he bought over the net again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff NJ</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258433</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258433</guid>
		<description>OldYanksFan, I think you're my new favorite poster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldYanksFan, I think you&#8217;re my new favorite poster.</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258412</link>
		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/02/18/pettitte-says-what-he-has-to-say/#comment-258412</guid>
		<description>OldYanksFan:

Arresting or targeting African Americans for breaking the law because they are African Americans, while allowing others to go free, is a racist pattern of enforcement. They may well be guilty, but a greater evil than the crime they committed is going on. In that case, the goal of a fair society is to punish the greater crime and stop the behavior that taints the prosecution. 

Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte are not members of any minority or suspect classification deserving of strict scrutiny and special protection when it comes to government action. Arguably the Mitchell Report is not Government Action. (I'm not so sure). 

My point with the speeding ticket example was this: the fact that others who did the same crime may evade apprehension does not diminish the guilt of the one who was caught speeding in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldYanksFan:</p>
<p>Arresting or targeting African Americans for breaking the law because they are African Americans, while allowing others to go free, is a racist pattern of enforcement. They may well be guilty, but a greater evil than the crime they committed is going on. In that case, the goal of a fair society is to punish the greater crime and stop the behavior that taints the prosecution. </p>
<p>Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte are not members of any minority or suspect classification deserving of strict scrutiny and special protection when it comes to government action. Arguably the Mitchell Report is not Government Action. (I&#8217;m not so sure). </p>
<p>My point with the speeding ticket example was this: the fact that others who did the same crime may evade apprehension does not diminish the guilt of the one who was caught speeding in any way.</p>
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