Take the poll: Did Clemens lie to Congress?
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great new thread!!!!!!!!
Pete,
This is not what I had in mind!
I took the poll anyway because I’m such a good girl.
I am so sick of hearing: “Congres” or “Clemens” or “McNamee” or “HGH/Steroids”
ENOUGH OF THIS!
I voted … but I lied
could we have a poll on whether this topic interests the readers any more?
todd: you’re good.
Todd,
By that admission, you’ve perjured yourself and violated the Terms of Service.
and touché mel !
Mel: LMAO
Is this the new 7th inning stretch, didn’t we have baseball today, why are we talking about this again.
I voted, but the Diebold machine misrecorded my vote.
yes.
Is there a way to vote on this poll on a cellphone?
It must be noted, though, that Roger brought this upon himself. He wanted to take the offensive to save his HOF chances, despite his denials of caring about such. Best course of action would have done what Andy did. Absent of that, he should’ve lay low. There are very few people who are sympathetic to his cause. People are beginning to hate Roger for his sheer arrogance.
I voted that he did commit perjury and he lied. The first reason I believe this is because he pitched so well at a late age. The other reason is because Andy Pettitte said he talked to him about it and Andy was his good friend and all the evidence points to Clemens taking steroids.
JimL-
it’s the lead story on ESPN, devoting 8 minutes.
The funny part was an analysis saying Bush will never pardon Roger cuz Bush won’t stand for perjury. ahhahhahahha. ask scooter libby.
Why is there no “Do you believe that Clemens misremembered the last 10 years of his life?” choice?
Whatevered,
Whisper your answer to me and I’ll vote for you.
New poll question: Where do bears sh*t? What religion is the Pope?
Jeff NJ,
I dunno, but I saw a Charmin commercial with a bear rubbing its behind on a tree.
That sounds cute Mel. Love your diner by the way.
The only thing I want to see from ESPN right now is updated NHL power rankings and I’m not getting them, so I’m kind of upset.
Jeff NJ: Wherever they want. They’re bears. If you try to stop them, they kill you.
Mel thanks, I think considering everything let’s just misremember this all happened and have our politicians get back (or start) to work on more important things. And my answer is – I really don’t care anymore.
Andrea: best line of the night.
Bla bla bla to Clemens, who even cares what happens to him, he can buy his way out of anything.
Mel, Todd and Jeff NJ, you have me laughing so hard here.
lol, Jeff.
Last year someone took the time to make a list of the regular bloggers and put a mental image. This is what mine looked like:
mel-Vic Tayback
So I googled it, caught the reference, and promptly outed myself saying I was closer to “Flo” than “Mel”.
The poll everyone wants to take
on the sidebar.
Yes, I’m devious. Yes, there’s work I should be doing.
Will we ever know the truth? Do we care anymore? Or do we want this case to go away?
Rebecca: I only aim to please.
My personal favorite blog nights were when we combined the “saffron risotto” guy with “markakis.”
How did 25 people in Tumbleweed, TX get internet access to vote?
(j/k)
flo-
& what’s your catchphrase?
Andrea: oh, I remember those nights, they were the first few weeks after I found the blog!
Do you guys know, when I first saw the blog I was way too intimidated to comment? I seriously thought you all were professional baseball people or something, and I thought no one read my comments.
And then someone responded to me and everything changed
He probably did lie. And he will probably wind up in jail. But, why does congress feel the need to get involved in sports. Do they not have enough going on with the economy and 2 wars. It also angered me that the hearing went from being about steroids in baseball to lets attack Roger Clemens. Don’t these people have a country to run?
Sad , Roger has no humility.
Nobody took Peds, they were given them (without their knowledge, of course).
Kiss my grits! Sorry, old folks get that one.
This topic totally BORES me.
Rebecca, we actually are paid professionals. We each get paid about $50 a post. How’d you not know that? If you have any questions, call our blog agent, Scott Boras, he’ll give you the premium package.
Jeff NJ-
If we are 36 is that considered old by the youngin’s here?
Rebecca, Did you take PEDs to enhance your ability to write great lines.
Yawn.
Yeah – I was the first to vote on Rebecca’s blog!
I think it was (formally),
“Mel, you can kiss my grits!” with the gum smacking.
Boy Jeff, now you’re calling me old??
Buddy: Once upon a time, but my sis-in-law is now 30 so I can’t.
Jeff: See, I work for free. Part of the whole college gig.
Whatevered: I never considered sugar a PED, but you never know. It’s all random assemblage of carbon-based molecules, anyway.
I take BlogGH.
Rebecca,
I think I’m the one who got you to link the blog in your handle?
We’re like proud parents basking in the glow of your success!
Understand that
Andrea,
I’m a Blogaholic
Andrea: Oh, I forgot, I’m on that one too
Mel: Very possibly. Though compared to the other bloggers out there, I’ve got quite a while to go! (Okay, so maybe I’m the most successful sword-collecting-fiction-writing-Yankees blogger, but something tells me there aren’t too many of us around)
And yes, I really am that shameless.
On a completely different and more pleasant note: We should all congratulate Peter, who won a big award today for sports breaking news writing from the American Society of Newspaper Editors.
Hen,
Was it the Torre news or just in general? Do you have a link?
I’m not sure of the story (and it;s actually the Associated Press Sports Editors who gave the award).
Here’s a link:
http://apse.dallasnews.com/200.....sults.html
Do think Roger lied? Yes. So did Andy Pettitte and most other MLB players – only not to Congress. Let’s face it, this is not about Roger Clemens lying, its about Democratic party loyalty to George Mitchell. Clemens is the lynchpin for the veracity of the Mitchell Report, if he leaves the impression on the general public that he did not use PEDs, Mitchell and his Report are discredited.
How ironic, politicians most of who are habitual liars (IMO), prosecuting a baseball player for lying…Wow!
Pete should get an award for best sports blog. Maybe someone should open ‘ The Blog Association’. Best blog I’ve met.
Yeah Pete! Where’s the post on THAT so we can start a new thread and get away from this topic for good.
Can we elect tomorrow (or maybe Friday — since it is such a special day!) PED-free?
mel: do you think we need Bloghab?
I took the poll, voting no. Translate it: “No, I don’t care.” Congress has had me at my wit’s end often enough over the years, and this is another part of it. The judicial system is in place for investigations; Congress should limit its hearings to matters regarding possibly pending legislation, not who was at what party at Canseco’s place.
I’m with Mel. Let’s move on. Our baseball season, in the broad sense the fan’s sometimes use, is just getting started.
I’ve got a better poll. Who wins a fight, both healthy: Dellin Betances or Andy Brackman?
Thanks, Hen.
That’s awesome, Pete, congratulations!
Pete: Major congratulations!
Andrea,
YeS!
Will this story ever die ??? It’s become as boring as a political debate.
Who cares?!!! Its baseball season, not perjury season.
I voted that flam (or is it frits?) didn’t really become best buds with Joba at Penn Station (or was it Grand Central?) and they probably won’t be hitting the clubs together during this season’s home stands. That was the question, right?
Congratulations Pete.
What is everyone congratulating Pete for? What’d I miss?
rebecca, i took your poll and voted ‘yes’. i care, but that doesn’t mean i want to read/talk about it over and over…
and posted in previous thread, dinner: eggplant parm sandwich
Kurkjian doing his schtick on espn news. The guy asked if it’s commonplace for gm’s to say things about other team’s players? Tim said no and that he was surprised that Theo said that. He also said to say something about a smart guy like Mussina probably wasn’t a very good idea.
No option for “I don’t care”?
Good work Pete. What story did you win for?
Rebecca, I need to take BlogGh, all I do is Yankees all day and night. It’s fun but it’s not fun when you don’t sleep that much.
Keep up the questions about the award so that Pete will be forced to put up a thread about it. He won’t toot his own horn.
Pete! Congrats!
now someone pass the blogahol!
Pete: We want details on the award!
saucY,
You have to order:
Blogger-meister
Blogatini
Blog & Coke
Blog Daniels (Giambi’s fave)
Southern Blogger
Samuel Blogger
Tom Bloggins
Blog on the Rocks
I’ll take blog on the rocks. Thanks.
Pete – Congratulations on your award. Is is for a specific story, or for breaking news in general? Please give us some details.
I put this poll on my front page. I said the poll will take you here. I forgot how long ago I did it though.
Blogarita on the rocks, no salt, please
You did break that story. Congratulations, again, to you and your paper!
Just musing ….. I voted against Roger, but the results show that I’m not alone.
One a baseball note, here’s my preliminary Sox/Yankee analyses in a few area.
(1) Pitching – I think the Yankee have a few more question marks than the Sox (especially in the bullpen) but I think that the staffs are comparable.
(2) Offense – Solid edge to the Yankees. The only caveats are that the Yankees aren’t getting any younger, and at least two Yankees are coming off career years (Posada and ARod). If the older players don’t bounce back (Giambi, Damon, Abreu, even Jeter), they might not reach expectations.
(3) Defense – Overall, mediocre at best.
1B : Hard to evaluate; Giambi is awful, and the rest are pedestrian, or trainees. Who knows?
2B : Adequate – Cano has OK range, strong arm, turns the DP. Takes plays off, though (mentally).
SS : Inadequate – re: Jeter, the critics have it right. He’s a great player in spite of his defense.
3B : Adequate – ARod can be a lttle erratic, but he makes the plays he should.
LF : Below average – Damon can catch it, can’t throw it; Matsui is rapidly regressing on all counts.
CF : Adequate – I like Melky’s D …. takes decent routes, decent range, superb arm.
RF : Below average – I don’t like Abreu’s D …. plays in a small OF but won’t go to the wall: questionable range, erratic arm.
C : Adequate – Posada could catch it a little better, but he calls a good game, throws OK. Bonus points for durability.
I think this area (Team Defense) is the primary Sox advantage (on paper). With the exception of LF and C, the Sox are stronger (defensively) at every other position. Also, they have more of a “swing and miss” pitching staff, limiting the balls in play, and minimizing damage.
I’m an old-fashioned guy. These observations are based on what my eyes see, not a set of fielding statistics.
I see that Vegas has the Sox winning 94 1/2 games. the Yanks 93 1/2. Statistically insignificant, as they say.
P.S. Theo should have kept his mouth shut. Maybe he’s jealous of Hank’s press clippings.
Oh, and I’ll take my blog and coke, please.
Bush made a joke noting that Manny Ramirez wasn’t here (visiting the White House). “I guess his grandmother died.” Varitek and Papi were laughing.
Everyone raise your drinks in a toast to Pete, “Congratulations!”
Theo apologized, sort of. Moose took the high road.
http://blog.nj.com/ledgeryankees/
Brian: I think you’re underrating Canò and Johnny’s ability to play left in YS, but other than that I think you’ve got a well grounded opinion
Congratulations Pete. I enjoy coming to your blog more than anyone else’s because you’re right there with the players and you report stuff no other reporter reports. I hope you keep doing this for a long time. Congrats on your award.
Blogatini – straight up with a couple of bleu cheese stuffed olives!
To Pete!
Theo really should keep his mouth shut about Mussina. Let’s see how his players react to their trip to Japan and how if affects them.
Tryouts for Americas Best Dance Crew?
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....otogallery
I’ll just have some Blog Daniel’s. I drink it right out of the bottle.
Wait–anyone know the potential affects of Blogahol on a longtime BlogGH user?
Rebecca – You might be right on Cano – I just think he “styles” a few too many plays. I’m a purist.
I can’t get myself to budge on Damon because he may have the worst OF arm I have ever seen (going back to 1957). Doesn’t hurt as much in LF, obviously.
Brian–out of curiosity, do you post on any Red Sox blogs? If any of us went over there and were as nice as you are and were self-identified Yankees fans, do you think the Red Sox fans would be cordial to us and actually engage in conversation?
To Rebecca and Andrea: I loved those Saffron Risotto nights!!
Is anyone still around that was on Feinsand’s old blog in 2006? That place was wild!!
I miss those days of being able to comment regularly. Now, I just read everyone else’s because I can’t possibly keep up (thanks for getting in the way of my fun, WORK).
So who here is going to Opening Day?
Kat: I’m skipping class to watch it on TV
Andrea – I drop in on a few Sox Blogs, but not as a regular. Frankly, the comments are so predictable that I’m not inclined to participate with any regularity. There’s no “conflict,” or “tension.” Everyone is on much the same page. I just find it more interesting to see what’s happening elsewhere. (Maybe that’s why I’ve been to Europe in each of the last six years.)
I’m sure if you dropped in on Sox blogs (w/o being obnoxious), you’d be welcome. I hear a lot of talk radio, and Yankee fans are treated in a manner commensurate with their own demeanor. Sox fans enjoy a good discussion, and are not inherently rude. Give it a try the – Globe and Herald would be a starting point).
Warning – we ALL despise Roger Clemens.
P.S. This is an EXCELLENT blog – some jerks, but a lot of knowledgeable people. That’s the main reason that I like to stir the pot occasionally.
Nice… you rebel, Rebecca. I often wonder if you even GO to class, it seems you are always on the blog! How do you have time to go to class, comment here, maintain your own blog and write your book??
Rebecca- When I was young, my dad used to get me out of school every year on opening day and take me to the Stadium. It was great!
I voted no, but I misremembered.
mel: i’ll take a blogger lite
reads great!
MikeEff
I agree!!!
better poll question: is andy pettitte a dirty backstabber?
Doesn’t Congress have better things to do these days?
Kat: I just have one calss on Monday and Wednesdays, and none on Friday, but I have three Tuesdays and Thursdays.
As for the other stuff–well, erm, you know, I really don’t know how I do it. Oops.
Lori: Lucky!
Brian: I don’t really have interested in going to a Red Sox blog, I was just curious.
Kat: I was going to go to Opening Day, but I gave my tickets to my brother because I went last year and he’s never gone. Aren’t I a nice sister?
Three things:
1.
Oops pushed went throughbefore I was finished
Congrats to Pete well deserved
On the Theo apology of course the apology wasnt issued on WEEI where all the people heard the comment but via a telephone call. As is usually the case the first comment gets more coverage then the apology
On theClemes thing I dont care he will have to deal with this between himself and his own conscious and maybe the law. However perjury and lying are two different things FYI according to the law so believe it or not leglly you can lie but n ot perjure yourself. One of our in house lawyers can explain it better.
saucY,
Less Filling!
auntie,
I vote “NO”.
Andrea: WOW! You really are a nice sister. I wish I had a sister so nice.
I’ve gone to opening day the past few years, but I always have to get my tickets on ebay or stubhub. I love it though! It’s my happiest day of the year!
Theo “Blunder Boy” Epstein has his foot stuck in his mouth. We’ll see how he changes his tune when his team comes back from Japan and then from the west coast with jet lag.
Mussina will have the last laugh.
theo’s comments were rediculous, but mussina’s bitching about the trip did bother me at the time.
Brian (Red Sox Fan),
Are you not going share your thoughts about your own team? I don’t see you critiquing a single Red Sox player by name.
Just wondering if that was an oversight.
Is it true that Mussina had a death in the family prior to the trip?
His father in law died. I believe he left the team for a week.
Thanks, Jennifer.
Kat:
I will be at Opening Day..Can’t wait….Last opening day of the old ball park
“With the exception of LF and C, the Sox are stronger (defensively) at every other position.”
and 2B. sorry.
just because you say Cano “mentally takes plays off” doesn’t make it true. can you support that claim with any evidence?
i can support my claim that Cano is a better fielder than Pedroia:
Cano leads in ZR:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....zoneRating
Cano leads in Bill James’ +/-:
http://www.billjamesonline.net.....eaders.asp
Chris Dial of BTF likes Cano ahead of Pedrioa:
http://www.baseballthinkfactor.....ve_awards/
Tom Tango and MGL, creators of UZR, also prefer Cano:
http://www.insidethebook.com/e....._2007_uzr/
overall, good post, but Cano is better than Pedroia.
As awesome as Opening Day would be, I’d rather be at the final game of the World Series when the Yankees win
Well Rebecca seeing as though the American League will win the all star game and I assume the Yanks will sweep the World Series game 4 will be on the road. How’s that for optimism…
Haha… Rebecca and Central CT – I like the way you think!
I was at Game 4 of the ’99 WS when the Yanks swept the Braves. It was truly an awesome experience.
Brian,
Please stick to critiquing your own team. You know nothing about the Yankees. I could combat you point to point but it’s a waist of time. Vegas says that the Sox will win one more game than the Yanks, but Pecota thinks the Yanks are 3 games better than your Sox. Stick to drinking your Boston Lager and leave the critiquing of the Yankees to the experts.
In other news, I hear there’s baseball being played in Tampa.
Oil is how much a barrel?How many foreclosurers is every state facing? Has louisiana’s levy and New Orleans been rebuilt?….Don’t congress have more important things to focus on? He’s a ball player who appears to have misrepresented the facts about himself and his ped usage,the aforementioned, is really more important!He’s already guilty in the court of public opinnion~
Kewl, over 1,000 votes.
omg look what i just did
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....;brand=mlb
LIVE!
Hey that Boston Lager is good stuff …
Raymag came to ST in great shape … contract year?
Brian (Red Sox Fan)
Giving Lugo the defensive edge over Jeter is laughable.
How the argument has evolved the years.
Nomah is a better SS than Jeter!
Ocab is a better than SS Jeter!
Renteria is a better than SS Jeter!
Agon is a better SS than Jeter!
Lugo is ahhh, Jeter is the worst SS in the game!
Less filling / tastes great –
Now there’s an oldie but a goodie. I haven`t heard that one since college … when someone brought a ‘questionable movie’ to a dorm party.
“… concerning an incident that happened in Florida in 2001, when I was a member
of the Yankee organization. I lied to police officers to
protect friends, ballplayers, coaches, and myself with whom I
worked. – brian mcnamee to congress
yankee players? yankee coaches ?
if you believe what mcnamee said to congress about clemens, how do not believe what he said about yankee players and coaches being involved in a near fatal sexual assault?
how does this statement about yankee coaches and players committing a sexual just disappear? did mcnamee have something on knoblach? the woman was reported to have been in his room . was pettitte involved? was he one of the players? is there a reason why he doesn’t want to go against mcnamee?
i’m sure when this case hits a court of law. hardin or whoever represents clemens will be asking mcnamee exactly what he meant when he said he lied to protect yankee players and coaches.
as a yankee fan, i’m hoping mcnamee was lying when he said he was protecting yankee coaches and players, if he’s not a liar, the yankees have a serious problem. who was the yankee official the woman was there to see? is he still with the team?
for you who are sure that mcnamee tells the truth, where does that leave you on the yankee players and coaches who mcnamee said were involved in a sexual assault?
you can’t just pick and choose what you believe with mcnamee.
over 80% calling rocket a liar! and that’s on a yankees blog…..
But McNamee can pick & choose when he tells the truth.
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/200.....r-dodgers/
Anyone see this? With the state of the Yanks farm system and with a bunch of aging vets coming off the books in the next few years I’d say we’re lucky Torre is no longer at the helm. It’s gonna be even tougher for those youngsters in LA to break through with Toree as manager.
Congratulations, Pete.
There’s no use in trying to pick who’s the morally right or wrong dingleberry. It’s no use. There are a lot of liars in the whole debacle, and most of them will never be questioned.
Hey, baseball started today, however unimportant the game was. A new season is here so we don’t have to dwell on the belabored off-season distractions.
Ranting Guy,
I’m in the Best Shape Of My Life. lol
ThatWasMe: Unfortunately, Jeter is the worst defensive SS in the league. And I bleed Yankee blue.