Brian Cashman is a genius
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Feb 29, 2008 
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ya cashman the genius who also gave igawa 46 million, pavano 40 million and farnsworth 16 million. Some GENIUS. Im sure passing on johan is going to turn into another genius move by cashmoney – i cant wait to see his butt walk out the front office door next off season. That is going to be the best scene since 2000.
Is that you, Hank?
Dave,
If you are going to focus on the negatives, it’s only fair to give Cash credit for Hughes, Joba, IPK, Cano, Wang, A-Jack, Tabata, Melancon, etc.
I like Cashman, but as dave said Pavano, Igawa and Farnsworth. I would call him a good GM, but not a genius.
Pete, that headline is brilliant. (Because it’s true, of course…)
Juan Gonzalez!
Juan Gone hit the homer, too. Santana’s done. It’s all over. Mets will trade him before April 1st.
So Cash was feeling pretty good at the start, what with Joba, Phil and IPK cruising, as did the rest of the guys…and Johan getting hit (yes, we all know that it means nothing against his track record; but it still must make Cash feel a little bit better after his going out on a limb against the deal). Then ole Iggy comes along and blows up again…
You gotta take the good with the bad. And figure out how to unload Iggy so he doesn’t clog up the system so the kids can’t advance on their own timetables.
Bronx Liason: you remind me of the people that thought Phil Hughes was a bust after his first post-DL start…
(yes, I know you’re not serious)
We should all take the spring training performaces just for what they are – spring training, where the goal is to work on various aspects of one’s game rather than put up impressive numbers in the box score.
With the exception of Kei Igawa of course. Like Carl Pavano, he’s fair game for picking up where we left of last fall.
Trade him anywhere. Does Iceland have a professional baseball league? Is there Babe Ruthovichnya league in Siberia? Cripes … insist on paying his salary for his new team, as a common courtesy. Offer some extra money if they stall. Throw in one OF prospect and one pitching prospect with no limitations on who, except that the prospects can’t have had any major league experience yet. Ask for no players in return … just make it a one-way trade. Two players, one bozo, one pair of sunglasses and a bag of money in exchange for nothing. Not even a half-empty bag of stale rice crackers. Pay Igawa’s Japanese team another $10 million just to make sure they don’t go posting any more players.
Jeez-us .. get it done!!!!!
No Deal=Genius to me.
If Cashman had a clue, Santana would be a Yankee, and Juan Gone would have a minor league contract, so he couldn’t hit off Santana.
[/sarcasm]
Agreed Ramar, Santana was a good non-deal.
Igawavano, on the other hand …
Cashman wasn’t even responsible for Igawa from what I know of.
Who wasn’t going after pavano after that season?
Is it the same Juan Gonzalez who won 2 MVPs for Texas in the 90′s?
If Spring Training meant something Cashman would be a genius.
Problem is, when the end of September rolls around, and Santana has 20 wins, his usual 1.0 WHIP and an ERA in the 2′s or low 3′s with a ton of K’s you’ll be planning a trip to Taiwan to write a book on a pitcher with an ERA in the high 4′s on the road and barely 100K’s.
IMPRESSIVE… not… hopefully that is an indication of what is to come!
santana is building his arm strength and experimenting with arm slots.
okay.
The Pavano argument has to come to rest.
Hindsight is 20/20. All of the big market teams, except the Mets, were going after Pavano.
The Tigers and Red Sox and Mariners were offering him big money. As much or more then the Yankees (but he loves New York)
No one can predict that kind of stuff. Enough is enough.
You can use the Farnsworth signing and even trading for Kevin Brown (even though Steinbrenner pushed him to do it), but you CAN’T use the Pavano signing. It isn’t fair.
He was a big deal after ’04 and was NOT injury prone. No one could have guessed what would happen. That’s not fair to Cashman.
Even the Igawa argument is a stretch because Assistant GM Jean Afterman is the big relations director between Japan/Taiwan and the Yankees. She pushes for Igawa.
Obviously it all comes down to Cashman as he is THE GM, but he also trusts his aides and staff. He can’t be accounted for everything. jeeze
Wow, it only took 33 minutes for someone to make a dig at Chien-Ming Wang. Remember that time he won 19 games two years in a row?
LMAO!!!!
HAHA
TP –
Not picking on Cashman at all. Just Pavano and Igawa. I think Cashman been making the team better than it would have been if he wasn’t GM.
You’re totall right nobody could have predicted Pavano would turn out like he has. In my mind Pavano’s fair game as long as he’s being paid by the Yanks.
Besides, as long as it can induce an occasional funny comment from the peanut gallery, it’s good to have a humorous topic to skip over to when another point (Clemens / Mitchell) is being belabored.
I wish the Mets well. I respect our cross-town rival, and am pretty grateful to them that they took Santana off our hand and away from BOS. hope they have better luck this season (ok until Oct).
Geez, already the “Bash Cash” crowd is weighing in!
C’mon! Just about every GM with money to spend on Free Agency has their “Pavano, Igawa, Farnsworth”. How about “Matt Clement, Wade Miller, and Eric Gagne”? Or trading Bronson Arroyo for Wily Mo Pena?
I agree that Igawa has been a “bust” so far, but I watched him shutdown the Red Sox for 6 innings at The Stadium last year in April, so he does have Major League stuff. So far its his lack of consistency/control, but at 28 yrs old he still has a few years to learn.
Really Pete?
yes jerryd, that’s him
Yeah, let’s go easy on Igawa – he was probably practicing his high slider.
Oh, wait, he not ever supposed to throw that.
Wow..you must be new here if you don’t realize Pete is SARCASTIC. Some people have to relax.
You people do understand that Pete was joking?
we cant blame cash for pavano because everyone was going after him. We cant blame cash for igawa because jean aftermath was pushing for him. And we should put some blame on his aides. But we should give cash credit for hughes, chamberlain and kennedy … Didnt scouts have something to do with those picks? Or was cash going to their high school and college games? Such a double standard. And pavano WAS injury prone before the deal was made and he only had one great season before we gave him 40 mil and a couple of very mediocre and very injury filled seasons. Take a look at the numbers before he was a yankee. Everyone was going after him cuz it was a weak free agent yr but the fact is he didnt deserve that kind of money based on his history.
And yes epstein has made mistakes but the sox won two world series in the last four yrs. The yanks have won NONE since cash has had control. No one blames epstein for trading arroyo cuz they got Dice K and beckett and won the world series. When the yanks win a world series next yr, I will stop railing on cash. I swear. But if they dont make the playoffs, his butt better be out the door. No fooling around. Without the scouts and draft people making fantastic decisions, cash would have zero credibility. Hes done less than nothing positive on the free agent market and his trades really havent panned out yet at all.
There isn’t a general manager in history that didn’t have the fear of deals that don’t work out. I happens to all of them.
Oh Dave shaddup already. You sound like a spoiled child. The fact is the Yankees are the most successful franchise in baseball. Get over it already you loser.
cashman has won world series…
Rebecca, you understand I was joking right?
And you probably also know that I am one of the biggest Hughes fans out there, check out my blog.
HAHAHAHA
Pete-
love your site
here’s my blog
http://nyyrollcall.blogspot.com/
“And yes epstein has made mistakes but the sox won two world series in the last four yrs. The yanks have won NONE since cash has had control.”
Cashman was GM when the Yankees won the world series 1998, 1999, and 2000. He oversaw the teams that lost in the World Series in 2001 and 2003. The Yankees have been to the playoffs every year he has been GM and only lost the division title once.
Thats a pretty good run if you ask me.
thank god Dave is back.
i hadn’t read that same idiotic post verbatim in a good month or so.
i was forgetting what stupid sounded like.
What the f…? its the first day of Spring Training and you’re killing Santana?? and by the way Hughes & Joba were working out already about 1 month in Florida. and Just for your info I would have traded Joba for Sanatana straight up. (Yeah Joba can become a major Pitcher, but how major? you can’t get better than Santana). So please Brian Cashman is a genius? why because he didn’t make the Santana trade or because he signed, Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Jaret Wright, Pavano, Igawa, etc etc. oh and by the way Giambi is playing first, Who?
Pete was joking, genius.
and trading Joba? thank God you’re not in charge.
Dave
you are an IDIOT. sure you’re not a Red Sox fan?
Brian Cashman has been in the organization since the early 90′s. he became a low-ranking Assistant in ’94 and while Gene Michael is truly responsible for putting together the first true Dynasty team, in ’96, Cashman was a part of that process and had total control by 1998.
you ungrateful spoiled baby.
TP
yOUR THE ABSOLUTE MORON – Everyone in this blog and the world knows cashman did little if anything to put together the 99 or 2000 club. But whatever. Keep believing he is a genius. Ive had to hear about how cash couldnt be blamed for a thing until 2005 about a million times on this blog. And now u tell me he had control in 98. Please just shut up. and how is that spoiled that i think our gm is a moron? I dont get it.
not to mention, we have the highest payroll in baseball and we are an UNDERDOG to make the playoffs. And that is the highest by almost double. I dont think that is a compliment to brian in the least. Sorry to rain on ur guys parade by cash has not made good moves at all in the free agent and trade market in general. The negatives far outweigh the positives. Argue that he single handedly got us hughes and chamberlain but dont gimme this junk that he brought us a championship in 99 and 2000. And his lowlevel positions in the early 90s doesnt mean a thing.
And what exactly makes me a sux fan – cuz i dont like cash. I dont think so buddy but keep trying.
Hmm u have made ur dumb post which means nothing as many times as i have talked about cash in a post. Thanks for not breaking the trend. Sorry to bash ur idol.
at the end of the season when cash is fired i should make fun of u guys until u cry. I wont because im a nice guy but i should cuz you all deserve it.
Sample. Size.
Dave just so you know if Cash doesn’t come back next year its not because he was fired, but because he either decided to walk away or because Hank and Hal didn’t want to offer him a contract he may be looking for. When your contract expires you can’t be fired.
Dave.
are you drunk?? Your comments aren’t very coherent…
I don’t know what you are talking about regarding 1999 and 2000. I do know that Cashman had total control beginning in ’98 however. and assisted Gene Michael in putting together the first Dynasty team in ’96
I guess ignorance can blind people from the FACTS. if you don’t like Cashman, offer me a better candidate.
A guy who can handle the payroll, the New York media, and the Steinbrenners. go ahead. GIVE ME A NAME. GIVE ME SOMEONE WHO CAN DO A BETTER JOB THEN BRIAN CASHMAN.
I have $100 down on you suggesting someone like Walt Jocketty.
pathetic.
dave’s a smart dude……….anybody catch that?
hey toilet paper,
go back to your girlfriend- brian. You are just too stupid to have a normal conversation with.
I love this post. For better or for worse, as a good Yankee fan I feel the need to root against Santana and for that deal to be a total bust. Mostly because Lupica is annoying.
“Hmm u have made ur dumb post which means nothing as many times as i have talked about cash in a post. Thanks for not breaking the trend. Sorry to bash ur idol.”
here is my point:
you contribute nothing to this blog. nothing.
i don’t care that you don’t like cashman. i have no problem with it. as long as you back your position with an intelligent argument.
people like randy l criticize cashman all the time, and i have no problem engaging him in a debate. so no, it’s not because you insulted my “idol”.
but all you do is post the same exact thing over and over.
it’s annoying and adds absolutely nothing to the site.
seriously, read this post:
“at the end of the season when cash is fired i should make fun of u guys until u cry. I wont because im a nice guy but i should cuz you all deserve it.”
what does this add? you sound like a moron.
WELL SAID, HMMM.
Dave – unless you have some substantial content, to your argument, you offer nothing.
Oh. and way to respond to my post! real mature.
I have no time for ignorant immature idiots like you
and what do ur last two comments add hmm and Toilet Paper,
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Why dont u stop talking about me and start talking about the issues. The only reason I made that post hmm, is cuz Toilet Paper decided to start talking about me rather than cashman. And because its true, when cash does not get a new contract, i will laugh and laugh and laugh. I dont care if u dont like my comments – Im not hear to please you hmm. And hate to tell you – but you make the same comment over and over again as well.
And Toilet Paper, why dont you respond to my post instead of insulting my intelligence. You start talking about me so i talk back and then you have the ball, to say real mature to me. Get a life!