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No question, that’s a lot of people

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 01, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Heard today that the Dodgers are expecting a crowd of 115,000 (yes, 115,000) for their exhibition game against the Red Sox on March 29 at the L.A. Coliseum.

How great is that for baseball?

Andy Pettitte vs. Cole Hamels tomorrow at Legends Field as the Yanks plays the Phils again. Blog at you again then.

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235 Responses to “No question, that’s a lot of people”

  1. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 1st, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    ….DANG.

  2. Mike NYY- The Big Three- Saved March 1st, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Thats going to be a weird game for Joe.

  3. Andrea March 1st, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    And it’s not even a real game! I bet if they could, they’d fill up that many for a Yankees/Red Sox game.

  4. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 1st, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    “Today I was happy,” said Lester

    Lester was charged with five runs and two hits in one inning. He walked four, struck out none and threw a wild pitch.

    i wonder what it would take to make him unhappy.

  5. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 1st, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    we all have to root for joe…i’m sure we’d root for the dodgers anyway…

  6. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 1st, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    MikeEff: Given what he’s been through, I imagine it’d take quite a bit to make him unhappy.

  7. Sterling Steiner March 1st, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    Cannot wait for tomorrow.

    Check out my BLOG

    http://nyyrollcall.blogspot.com/

  8. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 1st, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    touché rebecca, i hadn’t thought of that. duly chastised.

  9. JoeBuckHater from nyystadiuminsider.com March 1st, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Go Dodgers. I’m rooting for Torre.

  10. JoeBuckHater from nyystadiuminsider.com March 1st, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Actually I bet some people aren’t rooting for Torre because they want to be right that Joe was only good in NY and he’ll be a failure elsewhere.

  11. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 1st, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    nice article on shelley, Sterling Steiner

  12. Andrea March 1st, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    JoeBuck Hater: I want Torre to do well, but he just looks so doofy sitting there in the plastic lawn chairs. I’m sure that’ll change when he has a real dugout to sit in.

  13. NJ in Tampa March 1st, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    No way they get 115,000.

  14. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! March 1st, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/.....lnh106.jpg

  15. Jim in CT March 1st, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    2 thoughts:
    1. Dodgers are owned by Boston businessmen who lost out to Henry/Werner/Lucchino in buying the Red Sox in 2002. They then signed Grady Little (gone), Derek Lowe, Bill Mueller (knee gone), Nomah, and got nicknamed Red Sox West. About every game’s gonna be wierd for Joe. I’ll root for Joe anywhere, but do you really wanna bleed Dodger blue? It’s an exhibition game.
    2. News from Hank, if the Yankees play the Coliseum they’ll draw 200,000.

  16. Andrea March 1st, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Jennifer: I’m upset that I looked at that.

    Very upset.

  17. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 1st, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    I agree with Andrea.

    That link just isn’t right.

  18. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! March 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    :lol:

  19. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! March 1st, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    :evil:

    I thought the picture was funny.

  20. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    i loved the picture. what’s wrong with it?

  21. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Looks like the Dodgers will draw about twice as many fans as the Raiders did when they played there.

    I’d say at least 70K of those seats will have a terrible view of the action.

  22. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 1st, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    I won’t get into it. :-D

    But, I mean, it’s just weird seeing Joe in Dodger blue.

  23. Patrick March 1st, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Ok I’m bringing back a topic I posted about earlier tonight concerning Jose Tabata. I think he will be our starting RF in 2009 and some people disagreed with me. I think this is an interesting discussion, although obviously premature. Abreu’s contract ends this season and he will probably want a big money deal to end his career. I’d prefer not to pay him $50+ for 4 years so why not look at Tabata? I think after a full season in AA with a late callup to AAA he will be ready for the big squad in 09. Even if he’s not ready in April, might make sense to sign a stopgap for a few months then bring him up later to be the starter. Does anyone else have thoughts on this or is it too ridiculously early to talk about?

  24. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! March 1st, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Testing

    :uhh:
    :moose:
    :-whistle-
    :-hide-:

  25. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 1st, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    patrick: Bringing players up before they’re ready is a really, really, really bad idea.

    See: Hansen, Red Sox, for details.

  26. Andrea March 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Jennifer: they look like they’re gonna start making out any minute.

    And the blue. It’s just wrong.

  27. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! March 1st, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    Andrea that is why I posted it. :D :evil:

  28. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    I think 2009 might be a year too early for Tabata getting the starting job. I think Jackson may get a starting job if he continues to progress.

    Let’s not forget, Tabata is only 19 years old. He’ll probably nab a starting job when Damon/Matsui’s contract comes off the books.

  29. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    The Blue isn’t nearly as bad on Torre as it is on Donnie Baseball.

    I damn near puked the first time I saw him wearing enemy colors.

  30. Patrick March 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    Yes indeed but do you think it would be too early for Tabata? The jump from AA to AAA isn’t that big so I can see him being a starter for us with minimal time in Scranton. As long as he gets a full season at AA/AAA I think he would be ready. Also like I said, if Cashman decides hes not ready after this season he could sign a stop-gap in RF and bring Tabata up later in 2009. In my opinion its not necessary for him to be in the minors for 2 more years.

  31. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Dodger Blue isn’t nearly as bad on Torre as it is on Donnie Baseball.

    I almost puked the first time I saw him wearing enemy colors.

    Now THAT is just wrong.

  32. Patrick March 1st, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    I just don’t see why Tabata will need 2 years in AA/AAA. AAA is a scrub league, big time prospects rarely spend much time there.

  33. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 1st, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Patrick: I think you’re thinking too far ahead. A lot of things would have to work just right for that to happen.

  34. Laura March 1st, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Did anyone else see that Jeter bounced into yet another DP today? Geez, he’s already starting his crap. Get it together, Captain!

  35. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Well, none of us are hitting coaches so it’s difficult to gauge how mature or ready Tabata will be

    I’d rather not rush the kid then promote him too early and watch him struggle. He’s going to see some major league action this year because he’ll probably get called up in September.

    I wouldn’t be shocked to see Jackson get his licks next year but I would be very surprised if Tabata did.

    I do see a stop-gap type player being signed at the end of the year for that reason – until Jackson and/or Tabata are ready to take over.

  36. Jax March 1st, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    I agree with Patrick. If Tabata has a good season this year (likely splitting time in AA/AAA) I think he’s going to be an option for RF next year. He’ll likely be in competition with someone Cashman brings in but it’ll be his job to lose.

  37. yanksrule57 March 1st, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    “Did anyone else see that Jeter bounced into yet another DP today? Geez, he’s already starting his crap. Get it together, Captain!”

    I was wondering how long it would take for someone to mention Jeter doing a GIDP today.

    IT’S SPRING-FLIPPING-TRAINING! Leave the man alone at least until the games count. Jeez.

  38. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 1st, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    I had that thought about Jeter, and then I thought better of it.

    Anyway, if he continues the habit, he can always bat lead-off, and then we’d never have to worry about it.

  39. Sean Serritella Yankees Daily March 1st, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    It makes a lot of sense. Torre, ex Yankee, the Red Sox.

  40. Nick March 1st, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    The best case scenario for Jose Tabata is not to rush his progress. As a mid to late season callup in 2009, he’ll be right on schedule for a 21 year old. Either Damon or Matsui or both will be gone after 2009 leaving a job for Tabata to claim.

  41. Jax March 1st, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    What does Damon or Matsui have to do with Tabata? Neither one is a RF.

  42. Anskynyy27 March 1st, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    http://espn.go.com/

    is America a “Yankee Country” or a “Red Sox Nation” poll

    on the bottom right.

    The Red Sox are winning by a landslide.

    PLEASE EVERYBODY VOTE FOR THE YANKEES!

  43. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! March 1st, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    It is a stupid poll. You get all the Yankee haters voting for the soxs.

  44. Fran March 1st, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Jennifer – I agree with you. And after all the poll is on ESPN which, as Hank says “is filled with Red Sox fans”.

  45. YankeeJosh March 1st, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    I think that poll shows the general Yankee hate by fans of other teams. I’d bet there are more Yankees fans than Sox fans over the entire country (though who knows with frontrunners these days) but the hate for the Yankees by other fans is more than for the Red Sox. So, Royals, Twins, Tigers fans etc will vote for a Red Sox nation. The poll is thus inherently unfair. However, I’m not really too concerned with it, as long as the Yankees continue to excel.

  46. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 1st, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Looks like ESPN fixed another poll because they got dissed.

    EVERYONE hates the Yankees, so it’s not Red Sox vs Yankees.

    It’s fans of every team vs. The Yankees.

  47. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex") March 1st, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    our new rally call to ESPN :D

  48. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    “What does Damon or Matsui have to do with Tabata? Neither one is a RF.”

    Well, uh, Melky can be moved over to LF if/when Tabata gets his opportunity to nab a starting job when Damon/Matui’s contract expires.

    C’mon dude, it’s not that hard.

    Actually, don’t bet on Melky Cabrera being the long term answer for this team. I hope he does well enough to get traded because this is probably his ceiling.

    He’d be a fourth outfielder just about anywhere else in the AL.

    Hey, I’d love to see Jackson and Tabata get their shots to start next season. I just don’t think Cashman and the rest of the organization is going to give those kids a starting job right away. They are going to have to earn it.

  49. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex") March 1st, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    Action might get his chance this season, Tabata I have a feeling he will be in the Bronx for the Futures Game and open alot of eyes at that.

  50. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    I don’t buy the anti-Yankees bias on ESPN. It’s a ruse and always has been.

    The truth of the matter is that it is both a pro-Yankees and pro-Red Sox network. But, the Yankees get more coverage and more games are broadcasted on that network than any team in MLB.

    It’s not even close.

    RSN considers it YES Network II and Yankee fans consider it N-ESPN.

    Go tell a Royals, Pirates, Twins, or Cubs fan that ESPN is an anti-Yankee network and they’ll ask you what kind of drugs you’re on.

  51. Jax March 1st, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Like I said if they do well this season they’ll likely be candidates for the job next year. It’ll be their jobs to lose.
    Hughes and Kennedy are getting jobs right away. I know their competing in ST but they are both going to be in the rotation barring injury to start the year. If a prospect is ready and the there’s and opening at the major league level the Yankees are going let them compete for those jobs.

  52. Say it ain't so March 1st, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    If ESPN is anything, it’s east-coast biased.

    I think there are just as many Sox fans as there are Yankee fans. It’s stupid of Hank to start this up. It’s fun for the fans to argue about but these things always come back to bite you in the butt. Hank should know better.

  53. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    “Like I said if they do well this season they’ll likely be candidates for the job next year. It’ll be their jobs to lose.”

    It’s not that simple. Tabata is still only 19 years old. You can count the number of 19-20 yr old starters in MLB the past 10 years on one hand. It just doesn’t happen very often at all.

    Off the top of my head, I can only think of Andruw Jones and Ivan Rodriguez starting at such a young age.

    Also, we don’t know how this team will fare this season and whether Cashman is coming back for certain in 2009. It’s way too early to predict what’s going to happen next year when we have no idea what’s going to happen this year.

    If the Yanks miss the postseason, Hank could go nuts and spend like a drunken sailor next offseason with the better crop of free agents.

    Anything can happen, especially with Hank Steinbrenner opening his big mouth every five minutes.

  54. Guiseppe Franco March 1st, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    It’s stupid of Hank to start this up. It’s fun for the fans to argue about but these things always come back to bite you in the butt. Hank should know better.

    I completely agree. Hank is a buffoon and I’m already tired of seeing him shoving both feet in his mouth every time he opens it.

    He should be more like his brother Hal and stay away from the media. The one time he did talk to the media, he was looking fr a date.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....-for-date/

    At least that’s funny stuff. Hank is just a moron.

  55. J-Dawg--Veintisiete en '08 March 1st, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    I’m not worried about the ESPN polls or what any of the so-called experts say on the tube. As long as the Yankees are rolling along and taking care of business on the field, I’m satisfied. I’m not worried about them being the most popular team in America, I just want the Yankees to be the last team standing at the end of October. That’s all that matters in my book.

  56. G. Love March 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 am

    I LOVE what Hank said. It’s exactly what I’ve been thinking over the years.

    ESPN drips with the pageantry of the Red Sox throughout the year. Like they are a baseball institution who are doing it the right way. The way the game was meant to be played. It’s gotten to a point that I stopped watching Baseball Tonight which was one of my favorite programs.

    When the hosts on the show go out of their way to belittle everything the Yankees do and praise the Red Sox even in a loss, it’s tough to stomach as a passionate fan.

    A lot of that comes from Gammons’ blatant homerism. He’s almost become too predictable and painful to read. He can’t do an article without a Red Sox connection.

    The other day he posted a blog about Gabe Kapler’s comeback attempt and how he got his body without using roids. First of all, Gabe Kapler is a 5th OF at best. The only reason Gammons is pimping him is because of his love of the guy from Red Sox days and the fact that he was on the 2004 team.

    Hank has every right to say what he did and if he added juice to a rivalry that was juiced to begin with, so be it.

    I hope the young guys take the rivalry a little more serious than our captain has seemed to over the years. I’m tired of watching him laughing with Red Sox who are on 2b.

  57. Buddy Biancalana March 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 am

    Jose Rijo made his MLB debut at 18 with the Yanks, look how well that turned out.

  58. Buddy Biancalana March 2nd, 2008 at 12:15 am

    Rijo did have a pretty good career, just started off rocky.

  59. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Hank didn’t start this up.

    Theo and Papelbon started it.

    Except ESPN didn’t show that part. They just picked up the story 3 days in to the war of words (when Hank responded)

  60. we miss paulie March 2nd, 2008 at 12:44 am

    I love in LA, and there IS NO WAY that the Coliseum is going to be full. No effing way.

    If USC can’t pack it, do you think the Red Sox – Dodgers can?

  61. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 am

    They might get 115,000 people. Never underestimate baseball.

  62. Guiseppe Franco March 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 am

    I’ve always liked Gammons and he’s a Hall of Famer for a reason. The crew at ESPN didn’t vote him in.

    And Gammons always says good things about the Yankees. Maybe you should check your hard feelings at the door because the guy knows as much about baseball as anyone in the country.

    For whatever reason, you can’t get over someone criticizing the Yanks in any way – regardless if those criticisms are warranted and made by Yankee fans.

    Gammons may be a Red Sox fan, but that doesn’t get in the way of his reporting. Joe Torre and Donnie Baseball were among the first people who called to wish the guy a speedy recovery when he got sick a couple of years ago.

    Buster Olney is pro-Yankees and so is Colin Cowherd. The Herd flat out admits he’s a Yankee homer on the air. Olney wrote the best book I’ve ever read on the late 90s dynasty. It puts Joel Sherman’s to shame.

    Are there some Red Sox fans at ESPN?

    Yeah, so what? Their headquarters are in Bristol so what do you expect?

    That doesn’t mean their reporting can’t be objective.

  63. Buddy Biancalana March 2nd, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Geez, the traffic is so bad in LA, can’t imagine what 115K will add to it. I doubt that if USC can’t pull those #’s that the Dodgers-Sox can do it, maybe a Yankees-Dodgers WS being played there would make it happen.

  64. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 1:16 am

    I agree with Guiseppe Franco, but the facts are the facts.

    On this one….

    Hank didn’t start this up.

    Theo and Papelbon started it.

    Except ESPN didn’t show that part. They just picked up the story 3 days in to the war of words (when Hank responded)

    There’s a reason Hank’s quote started with:

    “Red Sox Nation? (as if he was asked a question about the nation…..and he was)

    find out what Theo, Papelbon, and Mussina said first.

    ESPN may have decided to pick up the story on day 3 (when Hank mentioned them), but that doesn’t mean it started with Hank.

  65. LCâ„¢ March 2nd, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Nettles,
    what did Theo and Papsmear say?

  66. Buddy Biancalana March 2nd, 2008 at 1:20 am

    LC

    Hilarious that you are a chick & call Papelbon Papsmear!
    Good stuff!

  67. Guiseppe Franco March 2nd, 2008 at 1:28 am

    Hank may not have started this whole thing with Theo but what he said was much more embarrassing to the organization.

    Theo ripped Moose and Brown – two guys that have been obliterated by Yankee fans on this blog and others for quite some time (and for good reason). Now, a lot of the same people who hate Moose and Brown seem appalled that someone else would rip them as well.

    Hank took this thing a step further and ripped everyone in the RS organization and their fans.

    Hey, I happen to agree that the whole RSN thing is idiotic, but Hank should be smart enough not to say it to the media. Sticking his foot in his mouth has been a pattern for him since October.

    Simply put, Hank is a moron. He needs to shut up and let his players do the talking on the field.

  68. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 1:29 am

    When asked how he thought the Yankees would do this year, Papsmear (LOL) said “Dude, I don’t even know who is on their roster”

    Theo and Moose went back and forth.

    Theo said Mussina and Kevin Brown were bad apples and they complained about the Yankees starting the season in Japan.

    Theo said Moose used it as a crutch.

    Mussina said “Yeah. I used it as a crutch to win the division.

    They went back and forth a little more and Mussina finally said something like “I have nothing else to say”.

    THEN Hank spoke up.

    But ESPN only cared once they were mentioned.

  69. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 1:40 am

    The Red Sox notoriously have folks who don’t know when to shut it. Schilling is the prime example. Beckett also doesn’t know what’s appropriate and what’s not. I guess when your GM doesn’t know when to shut up, it’s just a trickle down affect.

    Francona seems like a nice guy, though, so you’d think he’d just tell them all to stop talking.

  70. raymagnetic March 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 am

    “It’s stupid of Hank to start this up. It’s fun for the fans to argue about but these things always come back to bite you in the butt. Hank should know better.

    I completely agree. Hank is a buffoon and I’m already tired of seeing him shoving both feet in his mouth every time he opens it.”

    You do remember Luchino dubbing the Yankees the Evil Empire, no? What’s wrong with Hank dishing it back out?

  71. raymagnetic March 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 am

    “Theo ripped Moose and Brown – two guys that have been obliterated by Yankee fans on this blog and others for quite some time (and for good reason).”

    Really? Moose who has won over 100 games for the Yankees deserves to be obliterated by the fans? Do you really believe that?

    Secondly, what’s Theo doing commenting about a player on the Yankees for something that happened 4 years ago?

  72. raymagnetic March 2nd, 2008 at 2:09 am

    You know, I’ll never understand the hatred a lot of people on this blog have for Mussina. You would think Mussina stole money from the Yankees like Pavano. Mussina is the best pitcher acquisition Cashman has made during his tenure. I’ll just never understand the dislike for Mussina I guess.

  73. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 2nd, 2008 at 2:18 am

    hey raymagnetic- you’re right, some people here are too ready to throw a player under the bus for what they consider to be under-performance. i’ll admit that i was angry and frustrated with moose at times last year, but on the other hand i saw him pitch two amazing games at the stadium last year against the diamondbacks and the O’s. i was against giving him a two year extension when it happened, but i’m certainly hopeful that he’ll be good for us this year and will support him as best i can. i think his sometimes persnickety ways and stodgy attitude doesn’t endear him to fans, which is unfair.

  74. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 2:26 am

    raymagnetic: because that’s all people are gonna be focusing on. EVERYONE should shut up and play baseball! Right NOW they should be playing baseball!

    sorry. I’m getting impatient :)

  75. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 am

    MIkeEff and Raymagnetic: folks on this blog are VERY quick to throw players under the bus. Yankee fans in general are like that.

    I was at a game last year against Toronto that went into extra innings, and it was delayed because of Rain so it was a really long day. We found ways to entertain ourselves, and it was a day that SOMEHOW I had good seats, so I was on field level, but underneath an overhang. Sorry, babbling. Anyway, it was a long day and we were tied because Torre was parading out ever pitcher there was, and then all of a sudden, out came Igawa. I have never heard a crowd boo a man more in my life. That is the ONLY time when it was appropriate to throw someone under the bus! He hadn’t thrown a pitch yet, he hadn’t even been announced, but everyone knew exactly who it was when they saw him coming out of the bullpen onto the field.

    That little Asian bastard strikes fear into the heart of every Yankee fan.

  76. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 2nd, 2008 at 2:35 am

    the only yankee i’ve ever booed was farnsy. last year he gave up something like 3 runs in the 8th against baltimore i think. anyway Mo had to come out to save his a$$. i know i probably shouldn’t have, but i really got into it…along with about 50,000 other people at the time…

  77. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 2nd, 2008 at 2:37 am

    BTW andrea…i loved that story. at this hour we’re all babbling a bit. :)

  78. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 2:52 am

    isn’t that what’s great about 2:50 am? babbling is appropriate!

    I didn’t boo Farnsworth once. I think I was at that game too, btw. I don’t recall if it was Baltimore, but I know Farnsworth created a save situation for Mo. But I never booed him. Because he tried. And he acknowledged that he screwed up. Igawa never seems to get that he’s bad. I mean, you never want to hear someone say “I’m terrible,” though I think Moose said that after his first start last year. But it would be nice of Igawa to say something like “yeah, I could have done better” instead of his usual “I’m happy with how I did.” Maybe he does say things like that and his translator is sabotaging him…

  79. Say it ain't so March 2nd, 2008 at 2:56 am

    I can’t believe I’m still awake…

    Who cares who started the war of words? The “he started it” defense is one used on elementary school playgrounds. I certainly hope the people running our favorite team have a mentality slightly above a 6 year old’s.

    What wasn’t reported very much was that Theo also called to apologize to Moose through Cashman, and Moose said there were no hard feelings. Also, ESPN did cover this little exchange, I saw it on Sportscenter.

    RSN is easily one of the dumbest things in baseball, in my opinion. coming in right around Mr. Met and the rally monkey. But why does Hank even have to concern himself with it? I understand he was asked a question, but Hank loves the sound of his voice too much to say “no comment.”

  80. Guiseppe Franco March 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 am

    I don’t have a problem with Moose, but he did have a bad season in 2007 and tons of Yankee fans were tearing him to shreds – especially during the three game stretch in August when he was just getting annihilated.

    How many Yankee fans on this site were begging for Moose to get released or traded? I can’t count how many times I read that Moose is finished and should be traded to the Phillies.

    Now, these same people are appalled about Theo ripping him.

    Doesn’t make any sense at all.

  81. Guiseppe Franco March 2nd, 2008 at 3:01 am

    Say it ain’t so,

    Agreed completely. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  82. MikeEff - Shelley at First March 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 am

    interesting take on farnsy. i got the impression last year that he was sulky and petulant and he showed up torre a couple of times…i remember one day when jorge looked like he was going to kill him.

    i’m hoping for the best with him this year and am hopeful he can get a fresh start with girardi. anyway, i guess i was saying that i’m a little bit ashamed that i booed a yankee, but at the time i was really mad.

  83. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:09 am

    I love that “say it ant so” says RSN is “easily one of the dumbest things in baseball”, but gets mad when Hank says “Red Sox Nation? What a bunch of crap that is”.

    LOL *sigh*

    Gotta love these these some of these Yankee “fans”.

  84. Say it ain't so March 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 am

    Get over it Nettles, “Yankee Universe” is just as lame.

  85. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:14 am

    Say it ain’t so: Agreed. Hank’s too much of a talker. Mr. Met is way worse than Red Sox Nation though. Someone could easily take out Mr. Met and I doubt anyone would miss him. You can’t take out all of RSN.

    That ball-headed madman freaks me out :(

  86. Say it ain't so March 2nd, 2008 at 3:15 am

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    Hank is in a front office position, I’m a fan on a message board. Big difference.

  87. Guiseppe Franco March 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 am

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    That’s just stupid and clearly shows his buffoonery.

  88. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 am

    say it aint so:

    When did I say Yankee Universe wasn’t lame?

    thats right, I didn’t.

    When did I say you weren’t a real fan?

    thats right, I didn’t.

    You do alot of ASSuming.

    Hank IS in a front office position. You’re correct. You’re a fan on a message board. Correct again.

    Big difference? correct a 3rd time.

    The difference, he CAN say something. He is defending his business.

    When you say it (RSN is dumb) its ok, but when a business owner defends his business is stupid?

    yeah, you make sense.

    keep ASSuming and putting words in my mouth.

    I’ll keep showing you how silly you look.

    again, you said the same thing Hank said, but you’re right and he’s wrong? hahahaha

    the difference? you said it to say it.

    he said it after his employees were being disrespected.

    He matters.
    You (we) don’t.

  89. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:24 am

    Guiseppe Franco:

    Agreed. I said the samething about 3 hours ago.

    Hank is the pinstripe version of Schilling. He loves a microphone and needs to shut his mouth. He is making a fool of himself and the Yankees.

    But ON THIS ONE AND ONLY TOPIC, I have his back.

    Wish he didn’t say anything.

    Wish he took the classy high road for once, but he didn’t.

    He also stuck up for his players and team (right or wrong, he stuck up for them).

    You don’t want your owner getting in to these battles. agreed. but right or wrong, he did it.

    Jeter gets hit
    Hawkins hits the other teams star

    right or wrong Hawkins stuck up for his team.

    99% of the time, I’m curing Hank the Yank out.

    This time, although I may not agree with him, and wish he didn’t do it…I give him a pass for this one.

  90. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:26 am

    also: anyone sick enough to be on a blog at 3:30 AM in MARCH arguing over this, is a REAL fan in my book. lol

  91. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:29 am

    MikeEff: I’ll never boo a Yankee. In fact, that’s how I became such a huge A-Rod fan. I had to cheer him extra hard to make sure people couldn’t hear the boos around me. The problem was, the more people booed Farnsworth, the worse he did. He was actually affected by the boos. The sulkiness was at least an acknowledgment that he was doing poorly. Unlike Igawa who just sits around with his stupid sunglasses.

    Nettles/Say it ain’t/Franco: can’t we all just get along!?

  92. Guiseppe Franco March 2nd, 2008 at 3:31 am

    Defending his business? Are you kidding me?

    They are a $1.2 billion dollar corporation that doesn’t need to be defended because some punk ripped one of his players.

    It would have been a classier move to just say “No comment. We’ll do our talking on the field” and Hank would have been praised for taking the high road and letting Theo sound like the @ss.

    Instead, he took it a step further and sounded like a bigger @ss than Theo.

    P!ssing matches between GMs or owners don’t win games. The late 90s Yankees didn’t need to trash talk. They just silently went about their business and pounded their opponents into the ground.

    Hank should shut up and let his players do the same.

  93. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 am

    Andrea:

    I have no problems with anyone. We’re all on a mission (27).

    It’s what happens when passionate fans need sleep. lol

    Blame is on A-Rod. It’s his fault. lol j/k

  94. Say it ain't so March 2nd, 2008 at 3:33 am

    Nettles: Please allow me to show where my assumptions came from (And my my! Aren’t you so clever with your little capitalization’s!)

    You’re right, you didn’t say Yankee Universe wasn’t lame, I’ll give you that one.

    Where did you say I wasn’t a real fan? You didn’t have to! What else did you mean by: “Gotta love these these some of these Yankee “fans”.” Maybe if you’d formed your sentence coherently, I wouldn’t have mistaken what you’d meant to say. Did you mean I wasn’t as intelligent as you are because I actually questioned what blabbering Hank had to say? Are you saying that because we’re Yankee fans, we shouldn’t have a different opinion at all from what management says?

    Then what’s the point of this message board? If all we did was inform each other of facts here, it would get boring pretty fast.

    He’s defending his business. Okay, so he’s defending his business by taking a cheap shot at a fan base by spewing out a make believe argument that there are more Yankee fans than Red Sox fans. Wow, he really showed those defending World Champ Red Sox!

    You did a sad job of proving how silly I look. In fact, your unwarranted presumptuousness just goes to show how silly you are.

  95. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:34 am

    For the record, don’t be so mean about the Yankees Universe thing. The only time I’ve ever actually seen it used is on a tshirt whose profits go to benefit Sloan Kettering cancer hospital. So “Yankees Universe” isn’t actually that lame. As an entity, yes, but don’t pass judgment on the people that wear the shirt :(

  96. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:34 am

    Franco: The late 90′s didn’t talk trash??

    You must not have been around during the Steinbrenner/Angelos wars of the late 90′s.

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    Nettles,

    Alright. I just read your last post. We’ll leave it at that.

  98. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 am

    Nettles: it IS A-Rod’s fault. :P

  99. Say it ain't so March 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 am

    Andrea: that’s fine with the tshirt thing, but when people start comparing RSN and Yankee Universe? *cringes*

    Nettles: What Giussepe said. No hard feelings on anything, I think the fact of the matter is, it’s nearly 4am, and we all need to go to sleep.

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  101. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 am

    Say It Ain’t So: Thing is, I don’t think anyone really refers to “Yankees Universe” as an actual entity as they do RSN, do they?

    and SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK!

  102. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 am

    Say it aint so:

    I can once again ask you to show me where i said yankees fans can’t have different opinions as management.

    in fact, i went on to say, Hank makes a fool of himself. I compared his mouth to that of Schillings, etc.

    I think you misunderstand me. Or I’m not making myself clear.

    The “fan” part. I have nothing to say. I didn’t mean YOU. 15 posts before you were talking about how people killed Mussina here in the past.

    So that with you calling hank stupid for the samething you just said, i put “fans” because I was talking to people in general.

    about 4 posts up, I just called you a real fan.passionate at that.

    I’ll apologize for not making myself clear on that point.

    I’m not here trying to argue with you or anyone else. Hell, I’d back you up in a fight, just because you were a yankee fan.

    I’m just saying, on this one…I have no problem with what Hank said. I wish he didn’t say it, but since he did. F it.

    Sorry if you don’t agree with me, but I’m with Hank on this one. Sure I’d rather the comments came from Jose Molina, and not the Yankees owner, but the same Yankees we’re ready to go to war for, have been built on stuff like this for the better part of the last 35 years.

    the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

  103. Guiseppe Franco March 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 am

    The Steinbrenner/Angelos thing didn’t last very long because the Orioles were only competitive for a couple of those seasons. They essentially drifted into mediocrity in ’98 and haven’t been competitive since.

    Besides, most of the “trash-talking” stemmed from the big brawl when Martinez got drilled in the back and the Yanks countered with drilling a homerun right after the dust settled.

    That’s the best way to hit your opponent – on the field and between the eyes.

  104. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:44 am

    “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree”

    Good point. I forgot what a blabbermouth George S. used to be.

  105. Say it ain't so March 2nd, 2008 at 3:46 am

    Andrea: I can just picture you shaking right now with bloodshot eyes, haha.

    Nettles: Chances are, we are misunderstanding each other. I have no beef with you, and I apologize for getting obnoxious there. Let’s leave it alone because we really do have pretty much the same opinion about all of this.

    Seriously, it’s bedtime. I’ll probably sleep through tomorrow’s game.

  106. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 am

    RSN issues membership cards that you pay for, but that fee gets you free audio on MLB.com to hear the games.

    They are more of a “club” than Yankee Universe is.

    Sure when the Yankee wanted to come up with something, they trumped the “nation” with the “universe” tag. It was a subtle shot but as Andrea said: proceeds go to charity and it’s left at a t shirt.

    again guys, no hard feelings. Most days I’m with you with the Hank stuff. Just my heart knows he shouldn’t stoop to this level, but my mind kind of loves it a little.

    Gets the rivalry juices going in late Feb/early March.

    I apologize if anyone took what I said the wrong way.

    First pitch 1:00 PM

  107. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 am

    G.F. –

    Ahhh..but it did carry over in to the 2000′s.

    If you remember, the Yakees tried to get Randy Johnson in 2004.

    Who dined them? Angelos while running the D-Backs.

    When Tino got hit, that’s when Big G challenged Peter to a “fist fight” lol

  108. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 am

    What can I say? I have a soft spot for charity? The Yankees sell t-shirts, the Red Sox have boxes for people to put change (or garbage) in in random spots around their stadium.

    The Yankees Universe t-shirts are a really good idea too. I know no one really cares, but they’re actually cheaper than the player t-shirts. At the stadium, the player shirts are about $25, and the YU are $20. So it seems they’re actually trying to entice people to buy them.

  109. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 am

    “That’s the best way to hit your opponent – on the field and between the eyes”

    I agree. It’s the way when used to get to Pedro.

    He’d hit Jeter/Soriano all the time.

    The Yankees would just go win the game. lol

  110. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:53 am

    freakin Pedro. I never understood why anyone could love him.

  111. Nettles Punched Bill Lee March 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 am

    say it aint so – no problem. Hard to convey emotions when you’re typing. We’re both passionate, and it happens.

    Before October 2008, it’ll happen again.

    The Key: Not to harbor hard feelings. We both want the same thing, and root for the same team.

    It’s all good my friend.

    I’m heading to bed. I’ll read what GF has to say (if he posts) and then I’m going to watch espnnews untl i fall alseep.

    goodnight, Andrea, GF, and SayIt Aint So

  112. Say it ain't so March 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 am

    I’m not attacking the charity, I just think the Yankee Universe thing is really stupid. Not the charity, the slogan.

    Unfortunately, I have heard it compared to RSN on occasion. Not a lot, but I have heard it.

  113. Andrea March 2nd, 2008 at 3:59 am

    goodnight Nettles.

    Say it ain’t so: it’s definitely a lame slogan. But when are the Yankees NOT lame? Come on–the subway race? Just be thankful we don’t have a giant green booger in a uniform running around.

  114. Say it ain't so March 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 am

    Haha, good point. They really are so cheesey. Pride. Power. Pinstripes! :p

    You’re on your own now, I’m going to bed. Try to get some sleep.

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    Can’t sleep! I’ve been sick for 2 weeks. My body decides to have coughing fits between midnight and 5 am. It’s pretty awesome.

    Could be worse. We could have mascots and cheerleaders. I’d take “Yankees Universe” and “Pride, Power, Pinstripes!” over that any day!

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