Pirates-Yankees: The Live Blog
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 13, 2008 
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Welcome to Legends Field. It’s 70 degrees and sunny and the Yankees just had a bunch of old men dressed as pirates sing the National Anthem.
I’m totally not making that up.
It’ll be Mike Mussina against Paul Maholm.
FIRST INNING
Mussina went 1-2-3. 11 pitches/7 strikes.
Billy Crystal’s at-bat:
First pitch: Fastball away, he took it.
Second pitch: Fastball, foul down the first-base line.
Third pitch: Fastball inside, took it for a ball.
Foruth pitch: Fastball up, took it for a ball.
Fifth pitch: Swung and missed at a fastball.
Sixth pitch: Swung and missed at a slider.
The crowd gave him a standing ovation and he waved on his way back to the dugout. Hey, he made the pitcher work.
SECOND INNING
Mussina went 1-2-3 again and again threw 7 of 11 pitches for strikes. The Moose has been 86-88 with his fastball and throwing his curve for strikes.
THIRD INNING
This is a boring game so far. Mussina dispatched of the Pirates in order again. This time he needed 15 pitches. The Moose so far: 3 0 0 0 0 0 37 pitches/24 strikes.
Paul Maholm has retired the first six Yankees in order.
Jose Molina singled with one out in the bottom of the inning but that was it for the Yankees. Damon pinch hit for Billy Crystal and grounded to third.
0-0 after three.
FOURTH INNING
Save it for the season, Moose. 12 up and 12 down and barely a hard-hit ball. 52 pitches/32 strikes. Seven fly balls, three grounders to first, a pop-up to second and a strikeout.
FIFTH INNING
There is no stopping Mike Mussina. That’s 15 up and 15 down. 64 pitches/39 strikes. He toyed with Adam LaRoche in the fifth inning. Changeup for a strike, curveball away for a strike then a 1-2 fastball away for strikeout looking.
I would imagine that’s it for Moose. Mo will probably be next then Jeff Karstens. Still no score.
SIXTH INNING
Mariano allowed a single by Jose Bautista. Chris Gomez followed with a ball into the hole at first base than Shelley Duncan should have gone harder for but didn’t. It rolled out of the reach of Robbie Cano for a single.
After a sacrifice bunt put runners on second and third, Duncan made up for his mistake. Nyjer Morgan grounded to first. Shelley looked Bautista back to third and tagged the bag. Bautista then broke for home. Duncan made an accurate throw to the plate. Bautista was caught going back to third to end the inning.
Still no score.
First things first:
video-mlb.tv
audio-none
gameday:http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/#20080313
Gameday is current, correct, and showing balls & strikes.
Game’s on YES.
Is that to give thanks to the pirates for letting Billy play?
What is happening to the Yankees, the dry cleaner must have lost their suits.
Every single one of those pitches to Morgan was a strike, according to gameday, yet two balls were called.
Interesting to see that Bruney is not scheduled to pitch today.
He had been paired to pitch on Mussina’s day. He and Veras had been scheduled together.
Today its only Veras.
Girardi could have brought Bruney into yesterday’s game when phillips got tossed – went with Patterson instead.
This should be interesting
Let’s go Billy Crystal! Woooooooo!!!
How does Mike look?
moose looks good, 5 bucks billy puts it out of the infield
Billy Crystal at bat
Billy Crystal at the plate. He looks to be in good shape. Like everyone else in camp, he looks like he has dropped 15-20 pounds!
I would like the play by play of Billy please. What was the crowd reaction, players etc.
I would like the play by play of Billy please. What was the crowd reaction, players etc.
Watching the YES broadcast… I didn’t know Girardi had green eyes…
Paul Maholm getting squeezed!
Good cut by Crystal to foul that ball off there.
Going on the record now – Moose will finally throw a no-no and win 20 games this year! Aggressively optimistic hunch? Sure. I just feel it!
Right now, Billy Crystal looks better than Wilson.
Crystal works the count to 3-1 !
lol. The crowd reaction to every pitch to Billy Crystal is just precious.
strike out on a full count…but he at least hit a foul ball…
Maholm strikes out Crystal swinging on back – to – back fastballs over the inside corner. He took good hacks, Crystal did.
What a thrill for Crystal. I’m very happy for him. Now, Play Ball!
Auh he could have grooved a pitch for Billy.
how hard was Maholms throwing?
okay, I think we need Paulie and Conie in the booth alone.
atleast he made contact
I would have drilled him if I were maholm
Billy would have hit it Jenn.
I can’t believe I said that but it’s true
MikeHaus: It won’t be just a no-no, it’ll be a perfect game this year
he made contact though
A little help please. Could someone kindly post the Gameday link?
Thanks.
working the count…..Crystal knows the Yankee way
Billy shoudl’ve bunted.
Billy Crystal took better cuts than Michael Jordan!
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/#20080313
Crystal fouled a ball down the first base line worked the cont full , and I mean seriously if Maholm would have thrown him a fastball he would have hit it the way he was locked at the plate.
no surprise j train . at least you’re consistent. you’re all about hate.
SJ – The guys over at rab have it. http://www.riveraveblues.com
Crystal didn’t look like a fool up there. The cuts he took weren’t bad swings for any 60 year old! I hope when I am 60, I have that good a swing!
Billy Crystal was all smiles in that dugout. No harm done. Maybe all the haters will calm down now.
As I said, Crystal looked better than some of the guys on the Yanks right now!
Nice to see Minky in the Pirates’ dugout. Notice the facial hair?
I think Crystal could be a regular for the Pirates. But they couldn’t pay him enough to play regularly.
http://carp.lohudblogs.com
Last thoughs on Shelley’s slide because it’s time for the next game and time to move on.
Shelley’s slide, although it wasn’t a particularly friendly slide, could have been a lot worse. If Duncan really wanted to be a thug about it, or if he took Johnny Gomes’ approach to ‘protecting a teammate’, Iwamura could have ended up like Ron Oester of the Reds about 20 years ago. Someone on the Mets did a late/rolling takeout slide on Oester to break up a double play and his knee got bent about 45 degrees backwards. End of career. It ranked up there with Joe Theismann’s broken leg in terms of highlight reel clips that make you say ‘yeeeesh’. The slide on Iwamura was hard, yes, and he made contact with his spikes, but it was nowhere near as filthy as it could have been.
Given the circumstance, maybe it was a little too obvious and/or poorly executed for Tampa (and the umps) to accept. But it wasn’t a cheap shot (see blind side tackle) or even criminal, as drama queen Maddon was saying afterwards.
Matsui running free & easy. Welcome sight.
I think it’s almost a requirement once you leave the Yankees to grow facial hair.
karebear: Probably
mel: Agreed.
I think Crystal could play regularly for the Pirates. But they couldn’t pay him enough.
http://carp.lohudblogs.com
Many thanks for help folks. Nice two innings for Moose thus far. Great to see.
WTF ?
Is Billy Crystal going to stay in the lineup for another AB or two? Love to see him put one in play.
So Moose is doing good?
Is the game blacked out on DirecTV outside of NYC? I’ve been getting games but not today. Damn. Anybody out west get the same thing…Not Available in your area?
So I take it the “fastballs” were actually 46 mph.
Moose is doing well.
So was the Pirates starter serving them up or was he actually throwing pitches. Because going six pitches deep against a major league pitcher while you’re a sixty year old guy coming off the streets is pretty neat.
is everyone else getting out now so billy doesn’t feel bad?
just his luck to show up for a pitchers duel
He threw a cutter on 3-2, he was pitching like it was any other batter.
I just have to say there really is nothing better than Paulie in the booth when he and Girardi used to team up it was great I have a feeling that he and Cone will be just as good together
6 PITCHES!!!
I wonder if Arod is going to ask for Crystal to bat in front of him this year.
What are the chances tha Betimet doesnt make the team? Hense Ensburg and maybe Woodward make it instead.
mike eff….I dont hate anyone or anything, well, actually there are 2 people that I hate, but billy crystal isnt one of them.
O’Neill in the booth usually makes Michael Kay relatively tolerable – he keeps him in check, somehow.
All I know is that there is not way in hell that billy crystal is making contact if Im on the mound…if I didnt strike him out on 3 pitches, Id walk off the mound right there and then, give the pirates back their money and open up a burger joint.
86-88 mph might get the job done now in March, but it won’t cut it come April, and certainly not beyond. Hope he adds a couple to those numbers, which should be the case.
BTW, the word on WEEI Boston here, is that Bartolo Colon hit 93 mph on the gun today. Who knows what that means, but I figured I’d pass it along.
Someone needs to tell Duncan he doesnt need to head to the dugout before the inning is over. It was just for yesterdays game.
So much for not giving Billy Crystal any press…
Dang, I think Moose wants to make the team.
BTW, the word on WEEI Boston here, is that Bartolo Colon hit 93 mph on the gun today. Who knows what that means, but I figured I’d pass it along.
Batting practice for Arod.
SJ44,
I’ve noticed that you & I often share the same opinions. I opened this can of worms yesterday and no one bit! What’d you think?
1. I’ll be interested to see if my theory is valid by looking at HBP stats at the end of the season.
Now, another can of worms I want to pry open, is the fact that we get screwed on a lot of calls. My theory is that because the umps knew, absolutely knew that Torre (absolutely loved him btw) would not come out and argue anything.
I’m not saying umps would blatantly do anything wrong, but if you know someone’s going to argue you might wait that extra millisecond before making the call. I feel that in some instances umps make calls based on what they anticipate rather than what actually transpires. If you know that you’ll be held to task, then the officiating might be tighter. You know, actually confer with other umps who have a better view, etc.
I know, I know, typical Yankee paranoia. If we could just win the GD World Series, I wouldn’t give a bleep what people did. I’m just soooo tired of losing. lol.
What was the reaction for Shelley?
God, Mussina is done. Hang up the cleats old man…
Enjoy it pessimists.
I think Shelley should slide hard into second base today to show everyone the new level of intensity he is bringing.
Pete, Mussina going 9 up 9 down is encouraging, not boring.
Molina looks really good this spring, or is it just me?
The radar gun isn’t an indication as to what a pitcher will do in a season.
For Mussina, its having at least a 10-12 MPH spread between his fastball and his off speed stuff. If he has that kind of spread, he has success.
To be at 86-88 now is a good sign. Means he should be at around 90 on the fastball when the season begins.
More than good enough to win.
Colon’s MPH isn’t the issue. The issue is his weight and his shoulder. If he can’t throw 80-100 pitches a game because of stamina and/or shoulder issues, he is of no value to anybody.
Paul telling the truth! Maddon can’t handle the truth. “Maddon’s part of the problem”.
mel – totally agree with your 1:53 post
Jennifer, nothing really out of the ordinary for Shelley
a-rod is probably praying that bartolo breaks camp with the red sox
Bartelo is a shell of what he was suppose to be. This guy was reguarded as Pedro part 2 in the Dominican Republic, now he’s remembered for the 3 HR night Alex’s bat caused on his throws. It rocked his mental aspect of the game but he already was showing signs of a SP that was reaching the end.
mel,
Iv thought that for years now. We get screwed on calls and the umps know they wont get a Pinella out burst from the Yanks dugout. Girardi IMO will save us a bad call or two per game.
jen, Moose has been dealing.
Colon’s not clowning around. Might be a good pickup for the Sox.
Here’s his line from today. Not bad for someone who didn’t pitch last season:
2.0 2 1 1 1 1 1 4.50
NICE!!
IMO, Moose has to clock at 90 this year to be successful. He also needs to (FOR ONCE) not get rattled if there is an error made or a bad call. How many big innings came from him losing focus? Im not a fan of his,but i do hope he can contribute at least half a year for us.
“Mussina to Molina, M&M, it’s a sweet combination.”
How long do you think it took Kay to come up with that?
mooooooooose
They only gave Crystal 1 at bat?! That’s garbage come on it’s spring training at least give him 2-3!
Is Mike working on something now? Can’t say it. but.
Shee-it. Moose on the Loose. Perfect through 4.
Mel,
I don’t think the HBP issue was a byproduct of the umpires not being worried about Torre arguing a call.
I just think, as you get older and you have had a lot of success, stuff begins to slip through the cracks.
Yes, you still want to win. But, there is a lack of urgency because its impossible to be as hungry as you were prior to winning so much.
I see it now with Pat Riley and the Heat. Pat Riley is a Hall of Fame coach. Two years ago, its 15 strong, guys all on the same page, and they win a title.
Now, the team completely tunes him out, he makes some DREADFUL in game decisions (things you never saw Riley do in the past) and the team is the worst in the NBA.
If you breakdown Torre’s career with the Yankees, from 1996- Game 3 of the 2004 ALCS, he managed the team a certain way.
From Game 4 of the ALCS to the last game of last year, he has managed differently. He managed much more reactive than proactive.
Yes, they still had success. However, it was a different kind of success. They often won in spite of themselves and their passiveness definitely hurt them in the post-season.
I have always subscribed to the John Madden theory of coaching/managing. Ten years in one place is enough.
After that, the players have heard everything you have to say and, consciously or subconsciously, begin to tune you out.
I don’t believe for a minute the Yankees maliciously tuned out Joe Torre. I do believe they did in the sense that they got way too comfortable with him and each year the attention to detail began to slide.
That’s an example of sub-consciously tuned out a manager.
SoS,
That used to kill me when Moose would fall apart after fielding errors. BUT, after his “sabatical” he improved in that area. Of course he was pitching better, so he was probably less cranky in general.
Moose, yowza.
Nice catch on Jeter
Bartolo is a bum…. he won’t be effective or stay healthy at 390 lbs, however, he does have the best jerri curl in the bigs.
Bartolo gave up a solo to a .250 hitter …(shameful)
The Rays are clearly in fear of the clown hair and distracted.
catch the ball Robin !
robin williams just muffed a foul ball…
that was ball 4
“Bartolo is a bum…. he won’t be effective or stay healthy at 390 lbs, however, he does have the best jerri curl in the bigs.”
bring back melido and pascual perez!
I think it is very cool that Billy Chystal gets to play in a game. That is my dream to play a day with the Yanks! Mike and the Mad Dog were ripping him but they are full of it. If they had the chance I be both guys would go for it.
http://www.recreateyourlifenow.com
Nice K
Oh man… Pascual’s makes Bartolo’s jerri feel shame. hahaha good call.
Geez Mike save it!! Now is not the time to do this!! UGH!!! It is a meanlingless game
Sorry, SJ, I confused you.
CB & I were having a conversation about this:
CB,
You obviously know a lot more about baseball than I do, but I can understand when people say that the Yankees were soft, corporate, or pushovers.
They had class under Joe Torre. Sometimes, too much. Things happen over the course of series and seasons, but they, led by favorite player Jeter, would never say anything.
What results? HBP, yes attributed to draping the plate, but far more as far as I know people don’t drape the plate with their backs or their legs. Then you have Tavarez teaching the “rookie†Matsuzaka “you gotta brush ‘em back so they get scared and back off the plateâ€. All in sign language of course, we didn’t need to read the lips.
The problem is that things were done because they knew Torre wouldn’t condone retaliation. And to tell the truth the initial act would rarely receive league action, but the retaliation would so it makes sense to let it go. Especially in the tight races the Yankees found themselves in the past few seasons.
So basically teams were getting away with passive-aggressive behavior. And today’s events did send a message. People may not like the message, but we got some crazies who are willing to go toe to toe. And that might, just might, make someone think twice before they try something.
This was my response to his response to that:
“I’ll be interested to see if my theory is valid by looking at HBP stats at the end of the season.”
Then I went on a different rant about the officiating.
Basically, I felt the Yankees would get plunked because we wouldn’t respond. And we got screwed on calls because the umps knew there would be zero resistance from Yankee coaching staff.
robin williams just muffed a foul ball…
I say sign him up to a one day contract.
I know we hate the Rays and all, but how sad is it to see a talent like Baldelli have the leg problem that could end his carreer. All i could say is what if?
Mel,
I don’t think the umps consider for a second who the manager is when they make a call.
Do they make “make-up” calls for balls/strikes they miss? Yes.
Do they give vets breaks over rookies? Yes. I’ve seen too many incidents of the above for them to be coincidences.
But, Umpires today get more aggressive with players and managers who get in their face. I really don’t think most of them are intimidated by any manager.
….DANG!
Got my Tickets today!!!!
What’s up with the Yankees encouraging you to sell your Extra tickets on Stub Hub???
If you can’t beat em join em….
How much is StubHub paying the Yankees?
Day-um, Mike! Perfect through 5.
For Mussina, it’s all about velocity with respect to his struggles. If he’s throwing 86 mph like he was last year, he’s going to get tattoo’d again. He simply has to be around 90 mph to be successfull IMO. Being 86-88 now, should mean a few more mph a month from now. If that’s the case then he should have a good year akin to his 2006 season. Let’s hope so.
Health for Colon is obviously a concern, as it is for any pitcher. Colon is a pure power pitcher who doesn’t have very good secondary pitches. He doesn’t strike me as Schilling 2.0, or a guy who can reinvent himself as a soft tosser with success. If he’s topping out at 93 he will struggle. I hope that’s the case, cuz with Schilling down, the Sox could use a veteran to throw some innings, and I don’t want them to find one. I personally think Colon is toast. I saw him on the local news when he reported to camp, and he had to be close to 300 pounds.
Even though it doesn’t count, it’s something Moose can look back on if he ever has a crisis of confidence during the season to remind himself that he still has it in him… Not to mention it shuts up his critics for a while…
Uhh brandon, Colon won 20+ games that year and the cy young…
You guys think maybe Moose wants to mae the team?
Didn’t StubHub make a deal with all of MLB?
Jaret Wrights pitching. Here comes the runs!!!
Speaking of bums… what’s up Jaret Wright
Yanksrule,
I know I’m paranoid, but I still contend that sometimes calls are made in anticipation of what will happen rather than what actually happens. I’m mostly talking on the basebaths. And nobody wants a scene, so umps will take more care when officiating a Pinella game than a Torre game.
Real World go and read so interviews with him re: last year. He was hurt all year didn’t have a clue where his pitches were going. If he can throw 88 an have a 10-15 pnh difference between his curve and fb he will be fine.
The team as a whole still needs to work on getting that runner in from 3rd this spring…
I just found the rarest auction piece I’ve ever seen.
It’s a game USED Carl Pavano jersey. I’m assuming that means he actually pitched in it, not just sat in the dugout. That’s one way to pay his $400 billion contract.
I liked Jaret, if though he wasn’t very successful here, he tried!! He was injured with some termed a career ending injury and he came back. While that BUM Carl sat on his butt collecting a paycheck.
side note: Bonderman is bombing for the Tigers. 6 hits 4 runs 2 BB so far
Tell Mike he is supposed to save a gem like that for the SEASON!!
jennifer,
The thing I remember about Jaret is that big wad of gum he’d chew. And that he strangely resembles Rosie O’donnell.
Okay, Rivera, let’s get some outs
Agreed, Jennifer. He wasn’t exactly an innings eater…, but he was tough as nails and I always felt like he gave it his best effort.
Looks like our rotation is stable with Moose’s return
Wang, Andy, Moose, Hughes, Joba, and Kennedy can fill in for Joba when Joba moves to the pen.
The best game you guys have ever been at?
I myself would have to say Yankees vs. Padres in 98 World Series. When Brosious took Hoffman deep. It was the best feeling wathcing all the Padre fans go from standing to utter silence in their seats.
Nice DP!
good job SHELLEY !!!
Chris -Iowa
just think how rare a GAME USED pavano jersey is
talk about limited edition
Shelly looks good today. very nice play.
But who’s going to catch Wakefield???
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
that was a nice play…i would rather have seen that inning than listen to kay and crystal…
Wow. Bad baserunning by the Bucs.
Tino has done a nice job with Shelley at first base. His footwork is much better than it was when I saw him play first in the minors.
Mirabelli is one of the real jerks in MLB. Perhaps the Red Sox got tired of his nonsense.
Marte in for the Pirates. This is a guy I would love to see the Yankees acquire. Its too bad the Pirates are asking a kings ransom for him.
He would be a real weapon in pinstripes.
Kevin Cash is actually a solid backup, I still think Wakefield is nearing the end.
I love Damaso to be on this team but the Bucs are asking for way too much for a 34 yr. old I’m praying a miracle hit Angel Reyes and he skyrockets up our ladder
“Pirates are asking a kings ransom for him.”
Cody Ransom? Oh, I’d trade him for Marte in a heartbeat!
Marte made Jeter look bad.
When was the last time Giambi played? Is he hurt?
I love these posters who say Moose HAS to throw 90mph to be successful.
You people know nothing about pitching.
Then they try to sound smart by saying, “Oh, its sets up all his off speed stuff… blah blah blah”.
There are many ways to get hitters out. Go back to your video games…
“I’m praying a miracle hit Angel Reyes and he skyrockets up our ladder”
What’s wrong with Traber? Has he done anything but succeed thus far in Spring?
That must be scary for Karstens–a ball right back to him like that.
“When was the last time Giambi played? Is he hurt?”
Two days ago? I know he was slated to play yesterday but begged off. So, if he’s not in today, that’s a little worrying. Though, it could be that they needed to get Johnny in at DH and wanted to look more at Shelley at 1B. I dunno.
Dear Jeff Karsten: This is not how you make the team.
Ah, too bad Karstens.
That was actually not a bad pitch. He went down and got that…Bay’s a good hitter.
SoS,
Giambi has a sore back.
Kevin Cash has one of the worst bats in the bigs though, career .167 hitter.
what a horrible slide by Bay
Ok, that was only the second real bad one…the first hit and that one were not good pitches, the other two really weren’t bad. Bay’s just a good hitter, and Minky…that ball had eyes.
Cone used Generation Trey! Ick.
“Kevin Cash has one of the worst bats in the bigs though, career .167 hitter.”
Mirabelli’s kind of a disaster with the bat too.
Why is the Gameday link impossible to find on MLB.com?
samples
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/
whozat I’m talking about the future, I like Traber now I just also wouldn’t mind if Angel Reyes were touched by an angel
Samples,
They don’t link it in the spring. The link for the gameday page is at the top of this thread and updates daily.
mel-these minor injuries are starting to add up. Hopefully everyone can heal their nagging injuries before the season starts. Thats what hurt us the begginning of last year.
Cheap inning, 4 hits 1 walk only one run quite good.
Cody !!
Billy looked alright, he took pitches and even made contact. He didn’ look lost, not bad for a 59 year old. All said and done after all the grief people were giving the Yankees it was fine. It looked like it really meant something to him. I don’t suggest this as a annual thing but good for him. Now to what really counted, Mussina looked good.
Byung Hyung Kim? That brings back memories.
Yeah, Mirabelli isn’t great with a bat either, but the whole reason that he was back in Boston was to catch Wakefield…
So if Cash can’t bat and certainly hasn’t proven that he can catch Mirabelli it’s kind of an interesting move.
Later Ball… thata kid Cody
Byung-Young Kim!!! We missed you
yes Christian shows off the speed
SoS,
Yes, but did anyone expect Giambi to make it through a healthy season? Good to see Matsui back, though.
*catch Wakefield rather
Byung-Hyun Kim? Think Tino is itching to grab a bat?
*Hyung (I knew that looked wrong)
Like I said, memories.
thank you Byun-Yung Kim !!!
Did you see that swing! Effortless!!
Yankees still own Byung-Hyun Kim, and Lori, Brosius might hop on a plane.
I can’t believe Michael Kay didn’t ask Paulie about Morgan wearing his number…
How far did that ball go? Gameday has it like on another screen!
Kim will never be without a job. If he cant find one, we cant have enough batting practice pitchers. Colon and Kim would be slump busters on our team for sure.
Rishi,
Cano knew it was gone, immediately dropped the bat.
All i want to know is do the Yankees pay for Kims shrink visits.
Being that its a spring training game. I wonder if we could put Crystal back in there to get his hacks in?
I cringe every single time they say “Generation Trey.”
Cano too? Gameday still has Christian up. I figured Kim had a breakdown on the mound or something.
BRETT !
“these minor injuries are starting to add up. Hopefully everyone can heal their nagging injuries before the season starts. Thats what hurt us the begginning of last year.”
Nah, last year it was a plethora of significant injuries that led to missing multiple weeks for multiple players. Wang and Moose each missed about a month with the hammy thing, Matsui same thing, Abreu with the oblique deal, etc etc etc.
A bruised toe for Damon, and elbow that ached for an afternoon four days ago, two days of back aches for Jason…Outside of Cervelli, this is a (knock on wood) charmed spring for the Yanks in terms of health. The young guns all feel good, the veteran arms feel good, the hitters are mostly staying on the field…
I absolutely hate that nickname as well Say it ain’t so. Just absolutely awful. Did Kay come up with that and is now pimping it?
you get the feeling if Brett gets locked at the plate he will be a tough out in the majors
SoS,
Is re-entry allowed in the spring?
anti – generation trey.
Bronx Triangle.
a team comes in, for a 3-game series, and runs into the Bronx Triangle.
opposing hitters, became lost at the plate.
Chamberlain, Hughes, Kennedy = The Bronx Triangle
Brett for 4th outfielder bandwagon!!Whos with me?
count me in SoS
I don’t think re-entry is allowed…karsten’s still up – lead off single (5 hits in one inning plus)
make that 6
vinny,
I like where your going with this. Bronxmuda Triangle.
i like The Bronx triangle.
i love watching that brett gardner, i know he probably wouldn’t get enough at bats if he made the team, but i hope he’s a regular soon
I think Joel Sherman came up with it in the NY Post and for some reason that I’ll never understand, Kay has been repeating it over and over. Now he even has Coney saying it.
I can’t explain why I hate the nickname beyond a simple “It’s stupid” but something about it bugs me to no end.
Brett Gardner is hasn’t been sent to minor league camp yet. Think Garardi likes him.
I’d love that S.o.S (it’s really 5th OF, though). Only way I see it happening though is if Ensberg is kept instead of Duncan. With Duncan on the squad, they already have 5 guys who can play the OF. In that scenario, I see them keeping another utility IF guy (Woodward, most likely allow Ransom has looked dang good).
Why is Kay’s guest list on Centerstage more A-list than Barbara Walters?
neither has Christian I think it’s down to JC and Brett
Vinny,
I think the Bronx Triangle is the best one yet.
wonder why the nationals let moeller go…
“Brett for 4th outfielder bandwagon!!Whos with me?”
Why would you want to deprive him of the ABs he needs to have a shot to be an MLB starter some day?
Say it ain’t so-
Weren’t those three Mets propects (Pulshipher, Wilson, Izzy) known as Generation K? That might be it. Any reference that relates our three kids to those three gives me the shakes.
mel-I doubt it. But its Billy’s day. Anything is possible.
How about
C for Chamberlain
HU for Hughes
K for Kennedy
C.HU.K(prununciation see you k)
Anyone?
“wonder why the nationals let moeller go…”
They have other, younger guys to fill out their minor league catching rosters.
“Gereration Trey” is Horrible!
Kay has no clue.
whozat you think he’s gonna be a starter over the likes of possibly Austin Jackson & Melky Cabrera
Not Karstans best outing of the spring. But, let’s remember his role.
His role is long relief. He is not going to be pitching late in a lot of games.
He is the guy to do mop up duty. That’s a tough role.
When you look at the Yankees pitchers, he and Rasner are really the only guys who seem to be able to do that role.
Obviously, you would like him to be sharper. However, for the role he is designated for on the team, he is throwing good enough.
This year, as in ’06, it’s Boston with the nagging injuries. I know it’s been backs, not hammy’s, but did Marty Miller go there?
I missed the game up until now because my Time Warner Cable was out. Thanks for the updates. It seems as though Mussina had another strong outing. Maybe he will be a serviceable 5th starter.
well that sucked
Wow, Moeller’s a good defensive catcher. Glad that we got him before Boston.
Now Moeller’s a veteran and he won’t be on the 40-man. What happens after the spring?
rodg12- Here it is from Sherman:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02....._97705.htm
Generation Trey sounds like some Boy Band.
Come hear Generation Trey as they perform an a cappella version of the Wham! classic, “Wake Me Up Before You Go.”
SJ –
That’s a role Phillips could also possibly fill – he’s been a starter up to now. Depth is a beautiful thing.
Pearce is kinda blocked over there on the Pirates…he could maybe be a long-term young solution at 1B if they don’t want to go the Teixeira route…
First time I heard Generation Trey was in Joel Sherman’s column. Hughes himself said on his blog that he liked “The Three Amigos”
I like that better than Generation Trey.
Gardner needs to play everyday in AAA. It would be a waste to have him on the bench with the big club right now.
He and Justin Christian will make up 2/3 of the Scranton OF.
Depending on what Jason Lane wants to do, he may be the other OF in Scranton.
Curtis-Jackson-Tabata, from left to right, are the OF for Trenton this season.
Karstens is out of luck this outing. not such bad pitches.
Yea, umm, this isn’t they way for karstens to make the team.
Yeah. That’s an awful outing. Not getting really staking a claim to that long-man slot.
I agree, Whozat. Brett Gardner needs to be playing everyday, and getting everyday ABs. A player who is developing like he is should not rot on a MLB bench, unless he was going to be guaranteed a certain amount of ABs a week… right now, he could stick if he was on a NL roster, because he coule be a 4th OF and still get ABs late on double switches, defensive replacements, etc.
But I’d rather see Jason Lane or Shelley Duncan as the 5th OF (taking into consideration Matsui is really the 4th OF on this roster) than Gardner at this point in their respective careers.
Do they even need a nickname? If you say “the kids”, everyone knows who you’re talking about.
Did the inning end or is there a pitching change?
Once again, Karstens fails to impress. I don’t think he should make the roster just because the Yankees need someone who is “good enough” for mop up duty.
whozat on Brett,
With Jackson and Tabata coming. The only cenario i see him starting is if one of those gues do a Eric Duncan on us. I dont want the Yankees to trade this guy. He brings alot of energy on the feild. Reminds me a little of Elsbury. With our outfielders always banged up. I could see him getting at bats. Worse comes to worse. We use him like a Boston used Roberts.
Whozat -
Pitt has been working Pearce more in OF, looking to deal Xavier Nady, or Bay if somebody gives them real goods. Surprised the Mets haven’t gone for the X Man – though they had him before so maybe they sense something they don’t like.
eye chart gets a hit
Re: Bronx Triangle
thank you for the word, on the name. It is not mine. A person on the Bronx Block site, posted it.
Boo you dougie!!!
nyyfaninlaaland,
There were rumors this week that the Mets might be interested in Nady.
Its the first bad outing Karstans had this spring.
Every pitcher has bad outings in the spring.
A week ago, some folks here had Mike Mussina “done” and were worried as heck about Wang.
Not too many pitchers go through ST with a clunker.
You learn from it and move on.
“With Jackson and Tabata coming. The only cenario i see him starting is if one of those gues do a Eric Duncan on us.”
They haven’t even really played at AA yet. He’s already got a half year in AAA. He’s almost certainly got a whole season at AAA this year to show whether he can keep his OBP up against more experienced pitching. If he DOES show that, and Melky has another year in line with 2007…then all of a sudden Brett’s seriously pushing Melky for the CFer job in 2009. If they both do well this year, now the Yanks have CF depth that they can use for trades.
As it is Melky, Damon and Matsui are all jockeying for OF ABs.
Traber AND Karstens looking bad today. I dunno about Karstens disappointing “again”, though.
this inning should have been over with, damn ump…
I’ve never liked Karstens stuff. Even when he put together a few good starts in 2006, I thought he would get exposed the more innings he pitched.
Traber: not fair. He had strike #3. Followed by, a ground ball, not hit hard.
he have to remain, the left-hander to make the team, at this point.
Yeah, I think Karstens gets a free pass for today…
“Whozat -
Pitt has been working Pearce more in OF, looking to deal Xavier Nady, or Bay if somebody gives them real goods. Surprised the Mets haven’t gone for the X Man – though they had him before so maybe they sense something they don’t like.”
yeah, I know they’ve been doing that. Who knows if he’d actually be serviceable out there all year? I guess the Pirates will find out.
Generation Trey is the cool and proper nick name. Stop the wining.
“Even when he put together a few good starts in 2006, I thought he would get exposed the more innings he pitched.”
That’s why he’s being looked at for the long-man/spot-starter role. If he had good stuff, he’d be fighting for a slot at the back end of the rotation.
Here’s the way to look at Karstans. How many long guys have great stuff?
If they had great stuff, they would be in the starting rotation or in a featured role in the bullpen.
He is what he is. Basically, a mop up guy to eat some innings in a blowout game or when the starter has a bad day.
In that sense, his stuff is good enough for that role.
All i know is they have to win this one for Crystal. Get your rally caps folks.
whozat on Brett,
Point taken. I just wish we had someone with blazing speed for late innings for a change.
Triburough? Triple Threat?
They like the Three Amigos maybe because they’re too humble to call themselves the “Big 3″ which is the best, most appropriate name. Much more appropriate than “Nastiness”.
how much did they pay Billy Crystal?
SoS supposively Christian is faster than Brett IDK if that’s true but that’s what some people say.
“Point taken. I just wish we had someone with blazing speed for late innings for a change.”
It’s really hard to justify a roster spot for that when it’s a guy’s only tool. Especially when you’ve got vets at a couple positions who only play that one position and need to DH at least sometimes — AND a LOOGY.
I mean…take Justin Christian if you want someone fast and have a roster spot. He’s fast, and he’ll probably never be more than a backup anyhoo. But I really can’t find a roster spot for him.
Traber should have been out of the inning.
Damamso Marte is so good. I wish the Yanks could get him back.
the Bronx Triangle.
and like most nicknames, able to shorten the full name, when you care to. The Triangle.
yup. Have to pimp it. Do not like the name, generation trey. lol.
the Bronx Triangle.
and like most nicknames, able to shorten the full name, when you care to. The Triangle.
yup. Have to pimp it. Do not like the name, generation trey. lol.
lol. YES promoting the TB Rays game. I really think it’ll be a mild game. The bench-clearing got everyone’s adrenaline going and out of their system.
“Traber should have been out of the inning.”
yeah. But that happens. You need to buckle down and still get outs.
David Cone and Paul O’Neil, both excellent.
Hey guys, what’s the deal on Ransom?
I like what I’m seeing from him.
Wow. Everyone lost weight. Looking good. 3 up, 3 down.
Gardner (or Christian) culd fill a playoff role as runner when you can go with 11 pitchers.
But lets get there first.
One more nickname.
The big The bad and The ugly.
Hector Carrasco. Pitt really has problems from the right side in the pen – maybe there’s a deal there for Marte…
Ransom is a career minor leaguer. He’s minor league middle infield depth.
There was a guy just like this last year in spring…I can’t remember his name, but he had a hot spring — but really wasn’t actually that good.
hughes is the big. Joba is the bad. Don’t know if Ian, would want to be, the ugly.
Kay taking great interest in O’neill dressed in drag. “Did you wear stockings?” Wha’?!
Vinny,
Let’s just say that Ian could use an eyebrow job. I wonder why the USC basketball wife doesn’t insist on it.
Hey Pete,
Nice work in the ESPN Brawl Highlight video. That’s pretty cool.
“Let’s just say that Ian could use an eyebrow job. I wonder why the USC basketball wife doesn’t insist on it”
lol.
Hughes=big (curve)
Joba=bad a$$(ask Youkalis)
Ian=ugly(everyone digs the strikouts and heat.He’ll win ugly)
I’m glad I’m not the only one with a problem with Ian’s eyebrows.
Basak, that’s who I was thinking of.
I was hoping for a better AB from Ensberg there.
did that say Nick Ensberg, ahhh game over Moeller is up
did that say Nick Ensberg, ahhh game over Moeller is up
Andrea,
And I thought Karstens’ were bad. But to his credit, he had them fixed before his second outing.
Ensburg has been killing his chances these last couple games. Doesnt anyone want that roster spot?
Someone needs to make a poster of the Big bad and ugly(like the 3 amigos) and send it to Hughes. I wonder if he would like it.
What kind of dumbass question was that Kay?!? He asked Cone if he felt any stigma of being a guy who played on a lot of teams. Not Kay’s finest inning.
“did that say Nick Ensberg”
Yah.
Guess the “it’s still ST” joke applies to the YES team as well.
Poor Billy Crystal. Doesn’t get to be part of a winning game.
Mel: Karstens is just a weird looking dude, but Kennedy just needs to fix his eyebrows and he’d be good to go, I think. They’re just so bushy, and there are so many close ups on his face.
All i know is that Crystal would have taken Kim deep.
I’d bet if someone posts the eyebrow thing on Phil’s blog he’d let him know
i can’t say i’ve ever noticed IPK’s eyebrows….or anybodys…well maybe yogi could use a trim
Andrea,
Kennedy has two sets of eyebrows. Check it out on the next closeup. Also, there’s something about his teeth. But otherwise he’s perfect.
I’ll shut up now. I love all the Yankees! Even Billy Crystal.
Check this out:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Mel,
That’s cool. I figured they would bring all the big guys, otherwise it undercuts the gesture.
mel: That’s really cool.
Gardner is a good young player. Maybe the fastest guy on the Yankees. I really don’t know what the Yankee plans are for him. He has less than a year at Scranton/Wilkes Barre so I guess that is where he may end up.
I am starting to think maybe the Yankee farm system has enough players to supply the big club for example Gardner. Forget about the Ensbergs etc.
How did I miss this story?:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336817,00.html
Bizarre! I think Mary Ann was on a 3 hour trip.
Mel
The “evil empire” strikes again.
Good story
I try to give credit where credit is due. I think it is very classy of the Yankees to take the whole squad to Virginia Tech.
Mel….did you get the memo? If you are going to be a Yankees fan you have to be consistent and be a Knicks fan too! (just a little bit of good natured harassment)
“Forget about the Ensbergs etc.”
Forget about a guy who had 30 homers two years ago, but then incurred a shoulder injury that could well be the reason for his awful hitting for the last season and a half?
Why? If he gets back to hitting, why would you NOT want to keep a guy like that? If he doesn’t, cut him for free. Who cares if he’s not homegrown?
Shelley has 34 games in the majors. After six or seven years of pedestrian play in the minors. Ensberg is a former All-Star. If the latter returns to form…sorry, Shelley, I love you, but…come on.
Maybe the cameras on these mug shots need to be updated. They look like the same quality as pictures of Jesse James. Its just odd that all these celebrities look horific in these shots. I wonder if they tell them to wash the gel off their hair.
Talking about hair. I think im going to trim down my eyebrows today. The Kennedy and Karstens ripping did it for me. People just cant be natural anymore. Sad.
Sorry whozat,
Shelley get the annual immunity pass after sticking up for his team yesterday.
“…One of the Yankees asked me the other day why Crystal wore a Mets hat in “City Slickers†if he’s such a big Yankees fan. Good question. From what I understand, it was Crystal’s way of saying thanks to the Mets for letting him stage a “Comic Relief†event at Shea Stadium.”
T.K.
its settled we don’t need sabbathia, we have the moose, and jeter is done. not even hitting 200 this spring.
did you say jeter was done in april 2004?
i’m not worried