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	<title>Comments on: Cabrera, Duncan suspended by MLB</title>
	<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/</link>
	<description>A Yankees Blog by Journal News beat writer Peter Abraham</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276594</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't want to go back and forth in perpetuity, so this will be my last post.  Johnson doesn't agree with your assessment of the situation; not to be snarky, but I'm pretty sure he had a better view.  He felt the plate was blocked, and that a collision was the only way he was going to be safe.  Considering it was a spring training game the takeout was probably unnecessary, but it was perfectly legal.  The games might not count, but they're still playing baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to go back and forth in perpetuity, so this will be my last post.  Johnson doesn&#8217;t agree with your assessment of the situation; not to be snarky, but I&#8217;m pretty sure he had a better view.  He felt the plate was blocked, and that a collision was the only way he was going to be safe.  Considering it was a spring training game the takeout was probably unnecessary, but it was perfectly legal.  The games might not count, but they&#8217;re still playing baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Lady</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276429</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276429</guid>
		<description>Yes, Bill - Cervelli's left foot was blocking the plate.  NOT HIS ENTIRE BODY.  

Johnson is full of cr*p - he could easily have tagged the back of the plate without lowering his shoulder and at full speed taking out Cervelli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Bill - Cervelli&#8217;s left foot was blocking the plate.  NOT HIS ENTIRE BODY.  </p>
<p>Johnson is full of cr*p - he could easily have tagged the back of the plate without lowering his shoulder and at full speed taking out Cervelli.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276378</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276378</guid>
		<description>"His left foot was right there blocking the plate, and my options were either hook around and slide, I thought that would probably have taken too much time and I would have been out," Johnson said. "The time that I had there, the instinct was slide and be out or hit it him and see if I can pop the ball loose."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;His left foot was right there blocking the plate, and my options were either hook around and slide, I thought that would probably have taken too much time and I would have been out,&#8221; Johnson said. &#8220;The time that I had there, the instinct was slide and be out or hit it him and see if I can pop the ball loose.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Old Lady</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276354</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276354</guid>
		<description>Bill - get your facts straight.

Cervelli was in front of the plate, he wasn't blocking it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill - get your facts straight.</p>
<p>Cervelli was in front of the plate, he wasn&#8217;t blocking it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276344</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276344</guid>
		<description>And does anyone know if Cabrera did anything particularly worse than any other player in the fight?  I completely agree with the Duncan and Gomes suspensions, but this is the first I've heard about Melky.

Finally, since the Yankees will face RH starters in their first 3 games, Duncan shouldn't appeal, but Cabrera should.  Then let Cabrera sit out once Duncan's back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And does anyone know if Cabrera did anything particularly worse than any other player in the fight?  I completely agree with the Duncan and Gomes suspensions, but this is the first I&#8217;ve heard about Melky.</p>
<p>Finally, since the Yankees will face RH starters in their first 3 games, Duncan shouldn&#8217;t appeal, but Cabrera should.  Then let Cabrera sit out once Duncan&#8217;s back.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276341</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276341</guid>
		<description>I'm honestly surprised that Duncan didn't get suspended for a longer period of time.  He made comments that indicated his actions were premeditated and showed absolutely no remorse.  Plowing into a catcher who is blocking the plate is part of the game, cleating a second baseman in the thigh is not.  I am a bit surprised that Melky received 3 games as well, but there must have been something in the tapes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m honestly surprised that Duncan didn&#8217;t get suspended for a longer period of time.  He made comments that indicated his actions were premeditated and showed absolutely no remorse.  Plowing into a catcher who is blocking the plate is part of the game, cleating a second baseman in the thigh is not.  I am a bit surprised that Melky received 3 games as well, but there must have been something in the tapes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276336</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276336</guid>
		<description>I doubt the bleacher creatures will do anything (unless they want to get thrown out).  You're not allowed to say that someone "sucks" anymore.  Such is life in Yankeeland-Utopia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the bleacher creatures will do anything (unless they want to get thrown out).  You&#8217;re not allowed to say that someone &#8220;sucks&#8221; anymore.  Such is life in Yankeeland-Utopia.</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276249</link>
		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276249</guid>
		<description>Mary: 

I don't mind so much that Shelley was suspended; I think it was dumb of him to slide like that anyway. But Duncan was walking away, was not touching Iwamura, the friggin ump was right there and in control of the scene. Then Duncan gets hit by Johnny Goons in the back. 

If Shelley got 3 games, Goons ought to get about 5 games for being "third man in." IMO the league has a greater interest in keeping other players from expanding the fight than in critiquing slides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary: </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind so much that Shelley was suspended; I think it was dumb of him to slide like that anyway. But Duncan was walking away, was not touching Iwamura, the friggin ump was right there and in control of the scene. Then Duncan gets hit by Johnny Goons in the back. </p>
<p>If Shelley got 3 games, Goons ought to get about 5 games for being &#8220;third man in.&#8221; IMO the league has a greater interest in keeping other players from expanding the fight than in critiquing slides.</p>
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		<title>By: nyyfaninlaaland</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276248</link>
		<dc:creator>nyyfaninlaaland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276248</guid>
		<description>Sorry Mary, but you're just wrong. Some people do think the Johnson play was excesssive, they just don't blame Johnson for making it, and they're right about that. But last I checked teams don't need to paractice that play - there'sno tackling dummies in MLB camps that I've seen.

And not everyone agrees that Duncan had "intent to injure". But apparently you're Carnac and can see into the minds of others. The play was over the top - a "too hard" play. And that is being addressed within the team. We're willing to reevaluate when we've made a tactical error. 

Perhaps Rays fans should take a step back and look at all this from a different perspective. I'm sure if Carl Crawford had separated his shoulder when he barreled into Quintero last week, prompting Maddon's encouraging comments, your take on the appropriateness of that approach might take a bit different turn. Wouldn't seem so much like "good, hard baseball". More like stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Mary, but you&#8217;re just wrong. Some people do think the Johnson play was excesssive, they just don&#8217;t blame Johnson for making it, and they&#8217;re right about that. But last I checked teams don&#8217;t need to paractice that play - there&#8217;sno tackling dummies in MLB camps that I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>And not everyone agrees that Duncan had &#8220;intent to injure&#8221;. But apparently you&#8217;re Carnac and can see into the minds of others. The play was over the top - a &#8220;too hard&#8221; play. And that is being addressed within the team. We&#8217;re willing to reevaluate when we&#8217;ve made a tactical error. </p>
<p>Perhaps Rays fans should take a step back and look at all this from a different perspective. I&#8217;m sure if Carl Crawford had separated his shoulder when he barreled into Quintero last week, prompting Maddon&#8217;s encouraging comments, your take on the appropriateness of that approach might take a bit different turn. Wouldn&#8217;t seem so much like &#8220;good, hard baseball&#8221;. More like stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: nyyfaninlaaland</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276219</link>
		<dc:creator>nyyfaninlaaland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/14/cabrera-duncan-suspended-by-mlb/#comment-276219</guid>
		<description>Wonder how the Sox fans feel about "Yankee Bob" now.

Look, I agree Gomes violation should be penalized equally, but let's take it down a notch. Do you realy think MLB would suspend Melky without evidence? The Yanks would be so happy to appeal that, and MLB would have egg on their face - and apparently their image is just about the most important thing of all to them. 

And there no reason at all to suspend Johnson. He made a play which his manager encouraged, but which the Yanks choose not to make in ST, for good reaso in my view. There's no rule against what he did - in the regular season he'd be applauded. There's been some difference of opinion on the matter among managers - they seem to bend over backwards to avoid criticizing their colleagues in public. It would be better if Maddon wouldn't go so gung-ho in the spring - but apparently he feels players are incapable of discerning the difference between spring and regular season games. Or as we heard Pinella stupidly comment yesterday, he wants his guys to start winning. Does he think they're trying to lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder how the Sox fans feel about &#8220;Yankee Bob&#8221; now.</p>
<p>Look, I agree Gomes violation should be penalized equally, but let&#8217;s take it down a notch. Do you realy think MLB would suspend Melky without evidence? The Yanks would be so happy to appeal that, and MLB would have egg on their face - and apparently their image is just about the most important thing of all to them. </p>
<p>And there no reason at all to suspend Johnson. He made a play which his manager encouraged, but which the Yanks choose not to make in ST, for good reaso in my view. There&#8217;s no rule against what he did - in the regular season he&#8217;d be applauded. There&#8217;s been some difference of opinion on the matter among managers - they seem to bend over backwards to avoid criticizing their colleagues in public. It would be better if Maddon wouldn&#8217;t go so gung-ho in the spring - but apparently he feels players are incapable of discerning the difference between spring and regular season games. Or as we heard Pinella stupidly comment yesterday, he wants his guys to start winning. Does he think they&#8217;re trying to lose?</p>
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