Suspensions on tap for Duncan, Gomes
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Major League Baseball will announce suspensions for Shelley Duncan and Jonny Gomes today, at least two or three games from what I’ve been told.
Joe Girardi and Joe Maddon will be fined but not suspended. It’s expected that Kevin Long and Bobby Meacham also will be fined.
More on this when it becomes official.
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If Gomes suspension isnt as long or longer than Shellys, that will be a travesty.
oh yeah! no suspension for girardi!
if he gets suspended opening day does he still get his name called for being on the roster? Can he wave from the box lol
I would think they would just appeal the suspension past opening day…
Does anyone know why Long and Meacham were tossed and now fined for this? I haven’t read anything specific and I’m assuming it’s just general punishment for the team.
this whole thing is just ridiculous. there shoudl be no suspensions and no more “retaliations”.
Off topic…Im pretty sure that Ashley Dupre gave me knowledge in the bathroom of Blvd a few years ago…Im almost positive it was her after looking at more of the photos.
LOL they can have a picture of him waving from the scoreboard.
Or have him protest the suspension play in opening day and then drop the protest.
What exactly did Meacham and Long do? I know that the umpire said something about them feeding into all of this, but how did they do that?
Feinsand also said this morning that they were trying to ban Reggie from sitting in the dugout anymore during spring games, but I haven’t seen anything about what any of the 3 of them did.
IMO, the Rays will hit Shelley today.
Shelley’s (and to an extent Girardi’s) lesson to be learned from last weekend should be that if something happens that warrants a response later on, not to allude to any sort of response in the press. Wait a few weeks, then nail Crawford in the shoulder blade with the Farnsworth Express or mow down their catcher at the plate with a flying shoulder to the chin. Any specific connection between the events would be understood between the teams but not as obvious to the umps or MLB.
Last year Joba played it totally right in the press when he sailed two lase beams over Youkilis’ head. He said all the right things, but the Red Sox got the message loud & clear without being taunted, coaxed or shown up any further in public.
Maddon’s lesson to be learned from last week is that if you’re playing ‘clean hard nosed baseball’ and someone gets hurt, it might be a good idea to express or imply at least a little concern for the guy who just got injured when you tell the press it was just clean hard nosed baseball. You can say it was just a hard play, but don’t forget someone just got hurt. Especially if it happens in spring training.
the fact is bobby meacham was trying to break up the fight…he should never have been thrown out of the game. i’m not sure about kevin long
Rishi,
players can appeal a suspension. Managers can’t. If suspended, Girardi has to serve the suspension at the start of the season.
meachum should be suspended for passing Willie Randolph on the base path back in ‘85!!
I was talking about Shelley – totally not expecting Joe G to be suspended on this one…
Ranting Guy I agree with everything you said except I don’t think Shelley will be hit. Even Joe Maddon and the Rays can’t be that stupid to continue this absurdity.
Of course, I’m going to miss the game today. Such is my life.
If both guys are suspended for 2-3 games, its the fair way to resolve the conflict.
I guaranteee you, if Duncan gets hit tomorow, Maddon will get hit with a significant suspension.
Basically, Watson is giving the managers the benefit of the doubt here. If Maddon abuses that, Watson will make an example out of him.
I doubt Joe Maddon wants to make enemies in the MLB Office. If he does, even a hint of dirty play makes it tougher on his team.
Meanwhile, the initiator of the matter (Elliot Johnson) gets deignated for assignment without a fine and his subject walks around in a cast. Go figure.
per SI.com:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/specials/spring_training/2008/03/14/heyman.duncansuspend/index.html
it better be 2-3 for Shelley 4-6 for Gomes for the RF dash to that wuss tackle
Duncan was expected to get a three-game ban and Gomes two. Duncan ignited the brawl by going in with his cleats high on Rays infielder Akinori Iwamura, while Gomes blindsided Duncan with a shove in the fight that ensued.
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that’s bulls**(*
I do find it funny the Rays called the Commissioners Office fearful of Yankee retaliation after the Cervelli hit.
If it was just “good, clean baseball”, why call the Commissioners Office?
This whole thing is so dumb. Some “tough guys”. They call for reinforcments the first time they get “tough”.
Hopefully, the suspensions put an end to it.
Hey Pete,
Can you get IPK o comment on this story, here:
Link
For all you statheads out there Bill James just started an online component billjamesonline.com
I see Joe left “Spikes” in the lineup tomorrow against Tampa. Hmmm…..
I don’t think it will happen but could you imagine a warning issued by the ump at a ST game. Umps will probably look for the first player to blink wrong.
Will – great link. Thanks.
So I guess Shelley should expect a lot of low and outside pitches tomorrow.
what is the matter with you people?
a dirty play is a dirty play no matter what uni the guy is wearing.
the vast majority of you are total hippocrytes, if the uni’s were reversed you’d be calling for the spiker to be thrown out for a month (a year if he was a red sox)
“that’s bulls**(*
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It’s really not. Shelley went in with his spikes high, in a situation he knew to be potentially explosive.
Three games is fine. Frankly, I just hope that he and Ensberg get out of their mini-slumps and continue to push hard to make this roster as the righty 1B.
Kevin he got designated? or are you guessing?
Here’s the Gameday:
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2007/gd.html?2008_03_14_nyamlb_cinmlb_1
Duncan was expected to get a three-game ban and Gomes two. Duncan ignited the brawl by going in with his cleats high on Rays infielder Akinori Iwamura, while Gomes blindsided Duncan with a shove in the fight that ensued.
From si article?
How wrong is this! Gomes started the fight by blindsiding Duncan. IF Gomes didn’t do anything Duncan would have walked off the field and that would have been that! Also did you see how Iwamura stood there pointing at his leg, it was like he was waiting for someone to do something. He he was ticked why didn’t he punch Dunan?
Jennifer – Now, if was “tickled” that would have been funny!
I’m chuckling right now, thinking back to the other day when Brian (Red Sox fan) kept telling us there was a feud between the Rays & Sox for years. Who knew? That was the first I’d heard of it.
Rotowire is reporting that Melky is also being suspended for one game for punching Evan Longoria in the head.
“Cabrera will be suspended for at least one regular season game for his role in the brawl that took place in Wednesday’s Yankees-Rays game, the St. Petersburg Times reports.
Cabrera was not ejected from that game, but film viewed afterwards clearly showed Cabrera standing behind Tampa Bay’s Evan Longoria and punching him in the head. Official word from MLB offices detailing the length of Cabrera’s suspension is expected later Thursday. Cabrera will likely appeal, so we don’t know right now which game or games Cabrera would miss as a result.”
Thoughts?
“I don’t think it will happen but could you imagine a warning issued by the ump at a ST game.”
Both teams were issued warnings before the last game they played.
To answer the question what did Long and Mechem (sp) do. I emailed Mark Feinsand and he said Long told him the umps thought they were instigating the fight or something like that. I have the email at home.
if i was jeter or cano id be pretty pissed at shelley coming into second like that and then defending it…
“Also did you see how Iwamura stood there pointing at his leg, it was like he was waiting for someone to do something. He he was ticked why didn’t he punch Dunan?”
Duncan cut Iwamura’s leg on the slide. That’s probably why we was pointing at his leg…because it hurt and was beginning to bleed.
And, saying that Gomes started the fight is really just not accurate. Duncan went in cleats high. Gomes escalated, but Duncan started it. At least, on that day he did.
“Rotowire is reporting that Melky is also being suspended for one game for punching Evan Longoria in the head.”
Does Melky know how hard a person’s head is? That’s the worse place to punch somebody.
I definitely think that Duncan will not be in the lineup tomorrow. Also Igawa is not the perfect person to be pitching the game if they do not want a brawl but I am sure the umpire knows that he stinks and can’t ever find the plate. The suspensions are such a joke you are basically saying that plowing over a catcher is ok but sliding into 2nd isn’t. The Yanks should of just waited for 2 months and then nailed one of there players with a pitch. Its not a big deal because the Yanks don’t need Duncan to face Halladay or Burnett. Duncan is just lucky that Girardi wasn’t suspended for his 1st Yanks opening day otherwise he would be furious.
WTF did Melky do to get suspended
ohhh never mind
It is ridiculous if Gomes really gets 2 games while Shelley gets 3.
Shelley was playing baseball, however you see his slide, his action was open for interpretation. Gomes however charged Shelley and was not doing anything related to playing baseball. There was nothing subjective about how you interpret his action.
For tomorrow’s Rays game, please Yanks please don’t do anything rash. Let Maddon’s team go all caveman macho and do something dumb, I want his second-rate team to be the last fool standing, especially after his pathetic “criminal” rant. Which worries me if Igawa is on the mound.
What did Kevin Long do?
“I definitely think that Duncan will not be in the lineup tomorrow. ”
Despite Girardi specifically saying that he will be?
Odd.
I was wondering why Meacham & Long were ejected, this is what I found so far. It was from Bill Maddon-
“It was crazy to throw our pitcher out like that,” said Yankees third base coach Bobby Meacham, who would be tossed the next inning, presumably because he’d been the first person from the Yankee bench to reach Gomes and Duncan at second base. And Meacham was just as mystified by that ejection.
“I was just trying to get there before it became a 25-1 situation,” Meacham insisted, “but (the umpires) said I was making things worse. I said: ‘What would you like me to do the next time?’”
By the way, Maddon has rerouted Gomes to their other game on Saturday, but has also changed his personal plan so he will be in Tampa. Let’s hope he can take it down a notch.
Gomes is in for a long season as a visiting player in the Satdium. It only takes one, and we’ve seen more than 1 excitable boy here over the last few days.
Gomes will not play in Tampa on Saturday, but Maddon will be there. Hopefully he’ll tone it down a bit from here on.
Gomes could be in for a long season as a visiting player in the Stadium. It only takes 1, and we’ve seen plenty of excitable boys here over the past few days.
Gomes won’t be in Tampa Sat. , Maddon will.
http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080314&content_id=2425971&vkey=spt2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=tb
Hopefully things can cool down now. Gomes could be in for a long season visiting the Stadium. It only takes 1, and we’ve seen plenty of excitable boys here lately.
It’s official. 3 games for Duncan and Melky, 2 for Gomes. Odd that Gomes gets less than Melky – I guess a punch is worse than a poorly executed tackle in MLB’s eyes. But the fact is, you start throwin’, you’re goin’.