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Red Sox-Yankees: The Live Blog

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 17, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Good afternoon and welcome to Legends Field. It’s 76 degrees and windy as the Yankees and Red Sox get together for their only meeting this spring.

It’ll be Andy Pettitte against Bartolo Colon.

Please ignore any Red Sox trolls who decide to make comments. If you do respond, use multi-syllabic words. That will confuse them.

Happy St. Patrick’s Day, by the way. My maternal grandfather, Kershaw Heywood, was Irish and loved his sports. I suspect he would be pleased I’m sitting here at a baseball game and getting paid for it.

FIRST INNING
Andy Pettitte got Lugo to ground to short and then struck out Pedroia and Ortiz.

The Yankees now lead 4-0. Colon loaded the bases with two outs before Hideki Matsui doubled down the left-field line. Robbie Cano followed with a two-run single to left.

Hmm, Bartolo Colon might not be such a great find after all. He was just lifted after walking his third batter of the inning. Three walks, three hits and a 4-0 lead for the Yankees. Julian Tavarez on to pitch now.

SECOND INNING
Another strong inning for Pettitte as he worked around a two-out walk of Varitek.

Tavarez hit Jeter in the elbow with a pitch in the bottom of the inning. Abreu followed with a home run into the stands in right field. 6-0 Yankees.

Giambi doubled and scored on a single by Matsui (2 for 2, 3 RBI). Now 7-0. This is the worst St. Paddy’s Day in Boston since the Great Green Beer Shortage of 1972.

THIRD INNING
Johnny Damon lost a ball in the sun that fell in for a double and led to a run. A wild pitch scored another. But Pettitte ended the inning by picking off Pedroia and striking out Ortiz. The first pitch to Big Papi was a chest-high inside fastball. Then he fanned him him something down and away. Pretty slick. 7-2 Yankees.

FOURTH INNING
1-2-3 for Tavarez. Pettitte allowed a wind-blown HR by Youkilis before Lowell flew deep to left.

That was it for the big lefty. His line: 3.1 3 3 3 2 3. One WP, one HR, 65 pitches/36 strikes. All in all, a solid day for him.

Heath Phillips allowed a run on three hits. 7-4. Lease an apartment, Billy Traber.

Abreu (2 for 2 with a walk) doubled and scored to make it 8-4. No nonsense manager Joe Girardi is now doing an inning live for YES.

FIFTH INNING
Jon Albaledejo pitching now.

 
 

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449 Responses to “Red Sox-Yankees: The Live Blog”

  1. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Looks like Jay on a heads start in the previous thread :)

  2. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    “If you do respond, use multi-syllabic words. That will confuse them.”

    LOL. Classic.

  3. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Jay,

    Thanks for checking in. We’ll need you when Pete goes to the clubhouse in the middle innings.

  4. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    lol multi-syllabic words.
    Go Yankees
    you are doing a great job Pete

  5. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Jay,

    Is Pedroia as small as he looks on tv?

  6. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    I have a theory on why Arod isnt in the lineup vs. Colon. They want Colon to make the team so that he can get his hacks in when they count. If he went in today and bombed him there could be a chance we dont get him for batting practice in a real game.

    Who’s on the Patterson make the team bandwagon?

    Im off the Ensburg one though.

  7. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    BIG FATTY has loss alot of weight STEEERRRRRROI….*coughs*

    excuse me

  8. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Andy looking good through the first to batters. Lugo grounded to short and he struck out Pedroia swinging.

  9. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    i’m on w/ patterson and off with ensberg…

    great start for andy

  10. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    And Ortiz is Ked swinging as well. Great 1st inning.

  11. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    yep def. patterson make the team
    he’s on fire since winter league… Traber was also a good move.
    don’t know about the astros squad tho

  12. Manimal March 17th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Andy Looks GOOOOD, Working very quickly and effectively.

    God I hate NESN…

  13. Say it ain't so March 17th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    What is that thing that Andy is always messing around with in his mouth? It looks like a plastic mouthpiece, but what is it for?

  14. rip rizzuto March 17th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Hi everybody! Does anyone know why this game isn’t on gameday audio? How frustrating not to be able to listen to it on the radio, argh!!!

  15. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    SoS,

    LoL. I thought of that, too. But I think it was more that they didn’t want to give Alex false confidence.

    I’m sure Colon is breathing a sigh of relief that Alex is taking his scheduled day off.

  16. Renee in Boston March 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    pete, you’re killing me. st. patrick’s day really was saturday!

  17. kd March 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Does anyone have a gameday link?

  18. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    What’s Colon hitting, Pete?

  19. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    lol Colon looks like he ate Damon…
    shouldn’t he lose some weight sometime?

  20. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/#20080317

  21. Patrick March 17th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1

  22. Kevin CT March 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Breathing a sigh of relief, or stuffing his face with goobers.

  23. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    he just hit 94 on the strike out pitch to Damon

  24. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    kd – http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....;brand=mlb

  25. kd March 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    thanks guys

  26. Jimmy 27 March 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Posted by JR7769
    March 17th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
    Good Kennedy and Hughes radio interviews

    http://tinyurl.com/255hrn

    two audio clips from their appearances on WFAN

    Best I’ve heard of Phil and Ian yet

  27. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Thanks, chaossolver, what was Colon hitting in his prime?

  28. Rocco March 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Who’s fatter, Colon or El Guapo? I went to a Red Sox game at Yankee stadium a few years ago and El Guapo was warming up in the bullpen right in front of me. That man was large. Needless to say he walked from the bullpen to the mound when he was called into the game.

  29. Brent March 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    I hate looking at Colon. He’s always too sweaty and bulbous.

  30. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    if i had to guess… 98? i saw him throw that in the playoff against the yanks

  31. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Mel – I’ve read stories of Colon hitting triple digits in his prime.

  32. JR7769 March 17th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Whoa.. Colon’s fastball looks very very good. Threw a 94mph heater to get Damon looking.Whoever had him in the mid-80s this winter is making stuff up i guess

  33. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    yeah, that’s def. true…
    i think the slowest pitch he’s thrown today was like 82

  34. CB March 17th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Colon has gone from an insurance policy to a an important piece for the sox.

    With Schillings injury and Buchholz innings limit/ rocky spring training they are being forced to depend on Colon. They don’t have much depth.

    Unfortunately, Colon has been a present surprise this spring. He looked awful all winter but threw in the low 90′s in his first ST start.

  35. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Okay, that makes sense that he would bounce back and hit 92 (94 on the Yes gun).

  36. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    mel,
    False confidence. Colon is Arods slump buster. Maybe cause hes so hott this spring theres no need. Colon used to hit 98 on the gun.

  37. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    god bless lugo and his high salary, just dropped a semi pitch out

  38. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Jeter with a single and Abreu works the walk put men on 1st and 2nd with one out.

  39. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    what scout was watching Colon he ‘s throwing 94 mph even hit 95

  40. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    That didn’t take long for Kay’s first lame joke. Instead of a blue tooth, that guy has a green tooth.

    I read that Colon only threw about 30 pitches in his first outing, should be interesting to see how far he gets in this game. Bobby chewed up a lot of pitches.

  41. Manimal March 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    This umpire is terrible. No calls for andy and all calls for the fat ass.

  42. Motown Yankees Fan March 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Gameday is just not working for me today here in the office, so thanks to all for the updates. Too bad Alex isn’t up with two men on.

  43. CB March 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    “Whoever had him in the mid-80s this winter is making stuff up i guess”

    No, that was legitimate. He looked terrible in winter ball in the Dominican Republic by multiple reports.

    That’s why he couldn’t even get a one year major league deal. Even the mets, with all their pitching problems, passed on him because he looked so bad.

    His shoulder may just now be rounding into shape. How long he’ll hold up is anyone’s guess. But the sox may only need half a season from him.

  44. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    bases are loaded… not looking too good now

  45. JR7769 March 17th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    SoS

    Colon was expected to be topping out in the high 80s, so the fact that he is free and easy throwing 95 mph is a big deal.If he could ever stay healthy it would be the steal of the year

  46. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Jorgie walks the bases loaded. We are making Colon work this inning.

  47. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Don’t they have miracle shakes in the Dominican Republic?

  48. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    wow, ok i thought colon was going to max out at 94 and live around 90-91, he’s living around 95 96 right now… ridiculously lucky signing for the sox

  49. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    MATSUI-SAN !

  50. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    Opposite field ground rule double for Matsui!

  51. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    ground rule double for the gozilla… sweet

  52. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Nice hitting by Matsu!

  53. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    What happened to Matsui? Gameday looks to be a bit slow this afternoon – still stuck on Jorge’s walk.

  54. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    who cares about colon’s shoulder, matsui’s need looks fine and dandy.

  55. JR7769 March 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    CB were you at instructs or something?

    Just because that’s what you hear deosn’t mean its necessarily true. The Mets may not have been brave enough to take the risk onhim

  56. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    The most gorgeous ground rule double. Hit-Hit-Hideki!

  57. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Never mind – Go Matsui! GD Double!

  58. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Cano goes the other way!
    4-0 Yanks!!

  59. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    WHATDOYOUKNOW !

  60. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    *knee

  61. G. Love March 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Anyone else notice as Tiger Woods’ hairline recedes with age, he looks more and more like Mariano Rivera?

    Discuss amongst yourselves.

  62. Brian from PA March 17th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Matsui!

    I feel like i’m watching NESN with michael kay and john flaherty…they just gush over how good colon looks and how he could be a steal, and how there’s “no one better” to have behind the plate than varitek. jeez, you guys could be a LITTLE hometown.

    Yeah Robbie! 4-0.

  63. CB March 17th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    “Colon was expected to be topping out in the high 80s, so the fact that he is free and easy throwing 95 mph is a big deal.If he could ever stay healthy it would be the steal of the year”

    This is exactly right. If Colon is hitting 95 and throwing without pain he’s had a very successful spring. Enormously successful.

    The rest of it will only be a matter of him getting back into pitching shape. That might not happen by the start of the season – but if his arm feels strong and he’s throwing well that’s the most important thing.

    Again, he could fall apart at any moment, but at this point signing Colon to a no-risk minor league deal looks like a very shrewd deal.

    He’ll need to build his stamina and get back to pitching but what other guy could the sox have gotten as an insurance policy with the potential upside of colon.

  64. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Colon is getting hit hard and people here keep talking about what a great/lucky find he was for the Red Sox. I’d hate to see the board if he had struck out the side.

  65. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    2 run single for Cano. Matsui jogs in from second (gingerly).

  66. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    They are replaying the game tonight at 7, right?

  67. rip rizzuto March 17th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    robbie cano!

  68. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    lol when u have that much money and that hot swedish wife… who cares about receding hairlines… gotta give it to some of the pitchers tho… if smoltz never takes off his hat, you would never guess he’s completely balding

  69. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    I wouldn’t trust Mets scouting.

  70. Wolf In Pinstripes March 17th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    What’s up, peeps? 8)

    I wouldn’t say Colon’s looking too good on this particular day, huh?

  71. raymagnetic â„¢ March 17th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    “he’s living around 95 96 right now… ridiculously lucky signing for the sox”

    Talk to me when Colon throws three starts in row 100 pitches per start and he’s looking good. He looked good for two starts in April last year then was horrible the rest of the year. He’s only pitched about 160 IP’s combined the past two years. I doubt he’ll be a major factor for the Sox this year.

  72. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    G. Love – I was thinking the same exact thing this morning!!! He needs to leave the cap on – he looks so different without it!

  73. Brian from PA March 17th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    now kay is gushing over terry francona. oh terry you’re so wonderful.

  74. Andrea - anti-anti March 17th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    This doesn’t look like the Betemit I know!

  75. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Mike R.,

    To be fair Colon WAS hitting 94 and had 2 men out.

  76. Bad Scooter March 17th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Colon at 95 or Colon at 90, it doesn’t matter to the NYY’s. As Pedro once said, the Yankees are Colons daddy.

  77. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    lol calm down ray, i’m not cheering for colon… I was just really surprised; really didn’t think he still had it in him, that’s all.

  78. Ross March 17th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    But isn’t Pete a Red Sox fan?

    I kid, I kid.

  79. FLYankeeRican March 17th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    While we all know this is a spring game and means nothing, it WOULD be nice to throw a whuppin on the girls from Boston…

  80. raymagnetic â„¢ March 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    “Colon is getting hit hard and people here keep talking about what a great/lucky find he was for the Red Sox. I’d hate to see the board if he had struck out the side.”

    Agreed

  81. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    gotta love how he lasts only 2/3 inning. this lineup is pwning him

  82. Rich March 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Is Michael Kay a Red Sox fan now? He’s kissing Francona’s a$$.

  83. SJ44 March 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Some of you guys are too married to the radar gun.

    The guy is getting hammered in the first inning.

    If this is a “steal” signing, good luck.

    With his conditioning issues, he probably can’t throw 60 pitches in an outing.

    Its more than just throwing hard. Its why they call it “pitching” and not “throwing”.

    The Anaheim Angels are one of the best evaluators of pitching in baseball. If they thought he had anything left, they would have done a deal with him. Especially, with Lackey’s physical problems.

    He’s emptying the tank in the first inning as if he is a relief pitcher. Hard for me to see how this was such a great signing.

  84. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    BRACKETT TIME!!!

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    N.C.
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    kansas
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    memphis
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  85. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    he threw good but the Yankee lineup was too patient and worked him. Not a bad signing right now he reminds me of Jaret Wrightbut who knows

  86. Bad Scooter March 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Somebody sounds a little jealous of Tiger. Who cares about his hairline? He’s dominating the sport like no other.

  87. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Mel – I understand that. I’m just surprised that so many would have so much praise for the signing when, other than his stuff, he is performing poorly.

  88. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    quite an at bat from betemit… you must have enjoyed that brandon :)

    so far, this has been fun

  89. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    I think he got pulled because of pitch count, unless they didn’t want to stretch him out anymore in the first inning.

    I hope they sign him, though.

  90. raymagnetic â„¢ March 17th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Colon is fat with a bum shoulder. I think he’s finished personally. But what do I know?

  91. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    oh I enjoyed it and I hope Jennifer did too :lol:

  92. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Thank you SJ. Let’s see if the message comes across with the voice of reason saying it.

  93. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    lol at least someone has conn beating drake… unlike Seth Davis from CBS…
    GO huskies

  94. JR7769 March 17th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Can we just bunt for an out and get Pettitte back out there.. I dont want his elbow locking up because Colon can’t throw a strike

  95. Bad Scooter March 17th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Colon has nothing. No stamina. Once it gets hot, if he gives you 3-4 innings, you’ll be lucky. By that time he’ll be throwing 89-91. He’s toast.

  96. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Taveras looks plump. In related news, Beckett looks lighter.

    Pete, I think Tito was grumpy in the pregame because he had a feeling something like this would happen.

  97. saucY March 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    if bartolo is half the pitcher he used to be, can we call him semi-colon?

  98. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    What a fun 1st inning! :D Can we do it again for real during the regular season?

  99. William Buckner March 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    Hitting 95 is nice, but farnworth throws 100. How does it usually work out for him?

    Colon may pan out, but I doubt it. Having a good march and a good april is a lot different.

  100. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    “Colon at 95″

    At 95 without any ability to command the ball. Given that EVERY other team passed on Colon, and that he actually worked out in front of other teams, AND that he took a minor league deal, I have to assume that he was actually looking terrible until a month ago. The YES gun is fast, so I figure it’s more like 92-93. Still, that’s WAY better than multiple reports had out of the DR.

    We’ll see how he turns out. I still figure him as a bust. I don’t think he’ll stay healthy, even if he does keep his velocity up there.

  101. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Saucy – or just Semi. Kind of looks like one. . .

  102. raymagnetic â„¢ March 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    “he threw good but the Yankee lineup was too patient and worked him. Not a bad signing right now he reminds me of Jaret Wrightbut who knows”

    He threw good and yet was getting hammered? Imagine what would happen if he didn’t throw well.

  103. CAS March 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Colon is on the DL by the end of April

  104. Sara March 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Saucy! that is awesome!

  105. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    i can’t even stand looking at youkilis.

    nice play robbie

  106. Rich March 17th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    saucY – Hahaha, that made me chuckle. :)

  107. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Colon throws a straight fastball. Im not worried.

    Colon = Yankees slump buster

  108. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    I know it is not accurate. But watching GameDay is fun when the pitch count isn’t accurate. According to them, Andy has thrown 9 pitches, all strikes, to retire the first 6 batters.

  109. Rich March 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    Lori – that made me laugh out loud. Now people in the computer lab are staring at me…

  110. SJ44 March 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    If 4 runs in 2/3 of an inning is a “good” outing, I’d hate to see what a bad outing is from a starter.

    You guys were ready to retire Mike Mussina a few weeks ago and he pitched better than Colon did today.

    Colon didn’t even have to face Arod.

    If the Red Sox need Bartolo Colon to give them more than 2 starts this year, they are in big trouble. He can’t pitch with any level of effectiveness anymore. I don’t care what the radar gun reads. Its about making quality pitches and getting outs. He’s a shoulder and 50 pounds away from having a chance to do that again.

  111. CB March 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    “Just because that’s what you hear deosn’t mean its necessarily true. The Mets may not have been brave enough to take the risk onhim”

    Colon’s lack of velocity was widely reported over the winter.

    Here’s a link from ESPN deportes on how he was throwing:

    http://espndeportes.espn.go.co.....type=story

    It documents that he was throwing in the high 80′s from scouts at that game.

    Look at it this way – in the off season the mets, houston, the white sox and pirates all seriously scouted colon. All of them have serious pitching concerns and lack depth. Houston and the pirates have terrible pitching.

    Yet none of them even signed Colon to a major league deal?

    That tells you all you need to know about how badly he was throwing.

    He wound up accepting a minor league contract (1.2 million if he made the team) – that’s completely a no risk prospect for the Sox. In all liklihood he’d have taken a $1 million dollar guaranteed deal from any team for a year rather than a non-guaranteed major league deal.

    When the sox signed him they expected him to start the season in the minors – again speaking to how he was throwing.

    Also, coming back from shoulder injury do you think Colon’s first choice would have been to pitch in the AL East at Fenway Park? That’s part of why Mark Prior went to San Diego – to face NL west hitters and pitch in Petco.

    Colon didn’t have many good options. Given the tremendous dearth of pitching in baseball it speaks volumes that no club offered him a major league deal.

  112. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    u got love their label for youkilis in money ball fat thirdbaseman… he’s pretty much that now except ortiz and colon both look like they ate him for lunch

  113. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Andy how do you walk Jason Varitek :?

  114. Rich March 17th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Michael Kay is now kissing Varitek’s feet.

  115. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    Brandon – Alot of times a pitcher would rather give up a walk or a fat pitch than to show a hitter too much. During long at bats in ST you don’t want to show the guy all your pitches. it gives him an advantage during the year.

  116. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    the amazin’ Ellbury hits that one DEEP ! DEEP ! into the glove of 2B Robi Cano

  117. mel March 17th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    To be fair to Colon, the Yankees are a tough out. He had ‘em down to 2 outs. The Red Sox need to take a look at how he does against other teams. Although, there’s not much ST left for them. My guess is they pick him up because Schilling’s out.

  118. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Brandon – But did you see his speed. He ran from home to the dugout in 4.7 seconds. :O

  119. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Elsbury will struggle at the plate and shorty on seconds numbers will drop this year. No its not being a Yankee bias. O.k. it is. But i meant everything i said. Lets hope they trade Coco puffs before the slump starts. One thing noone can argue with is coco’s defense saved alot of runs for his pitchers.

  120. The J Train- Save The Drama For Yo Mama March 17th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Kevin Youcouldlickthis is one ugly dude

  121. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    I hate this bitch a**s pitcher :evil:

  122. Jax March 17th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Once again Jeter gets hits by a sox player.

  123. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    I predict that we will be seeing a lot of Bartolo Colon this year. He should be put on the DL just in time for the Celebrity Fit Club auditions.

  124. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    wow… wtf… tavarez hit jeter square on the elbow…

  125. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    Wheres Duncan for the retalitation!!!
    Pettite better drill Ortiz!!

  126. gayle March 17th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    And that is how you answer getting hit by a pitch

  127. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    o man… did abreu hit that pitch…

  128. Jane - Shelley is the new Sheriff in town March 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    LOL! Abreu avenges Jeter. Holy crap, that was far!

  129. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    THAT is payback. Boom.

  130. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    take that Julian ! :evil:

  131. Andrea - anti-anti March 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Did anyone else just see Pavano in the dugout high-fiving Abreu. Get out of here, Pavano.

  132. Motown Yankees Fan March 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Youkilis is my starting first basemen for the All Ugly All Stars. Randy Johnson and AJ Burnett are my one and two pitchers.

  133. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Did Varitek cover his head on the ricochet?

    Nice retalitation, Bobby!

  134. youngtimer March 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    MASSIVE ABREU HOMER!!!!!

  135. Rich March 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    El Comaduce!

    or w/e it is that John Sterling calls him.

  136. rip rizzuto March 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    best revenge for a HBP… storming the mound? nope! next guy hits a homer!

  137. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Go Bobby! I hope we do that every time someone gets hit.

  138. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    lol it would be hilarious if the retalition comes from petitte or someone… giambi just doubled

  139. Jane - Shelley is the new Sheriff in town March 17th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    The Puma hits a double.

  140. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    should seriously think about saving some of this stuff for the season… what a smack down

  141. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Good to see Giambi run, not waddle.

  142. SJ44 March 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    No reason to throw at Sox hitters today. Just light them up no the scoreboard and re-visit it during the season.

    Can’t afford to have anybody else suspended between now and the start of the season.

  143. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Tavarez looks like freddy crougar. Anyone?

  144. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    “The Puma hits a double.”

    This had me laughing out loud!

  145. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Still, if I’m Pettitte, I buzz Varitek. Don’t need plunk him.

    I hope Matsui continues to do that with outside pitches, instead of rolling them over to 2B

  146. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Does anyone know how many pitchers the Sox brought? At this pace they might need to call for reinforcements.

  147. Ranting Guy March 17th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    I just got to the office after a long AM meeting so I was away from the computer for a while. I’m sure SOMEone made a similar post so I’m sorry if I repeat it, but:

    ” … use multi-syllabic words. That will confuse them.”

    That was a gem, Pete. Too bad the Sox trolls won’t be able to understand it.

    Sox should be nice & exhausted with that itinerary for starting the season. Yanks better get a good start to capitalize. but regardless of whatever happens at the beginning of the season, they need to have a good finish to it.

  148. Mike March 17th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    6-0, not 5-0

  149. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    lol i didn’t think the suspension was that bad a thing at all… personally, I really want to see what Bret Gardner can do in limited duty… three games might be a short audition, but it would be much better than keeping Lane or Ensberg on the bench

  150. Rich March 17th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    The Sox are in very big trouble if they have to rely on Colon and Tavarez to pitch a lot of innings.

  151. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    the parade continues…

  152. vinny-b March 17th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    prediction: the bench players, will have +++ plate appearances, today.

  153. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    I would pull my starters out right now and put the bench in. Send a message that they arent worthy to play against our starters. Scoreboard.

  154. CB March 17th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    The general consensus last year was that the sox had the best staff in the AL.

    But they were also fortunate to get through the year without any injuries.

    They don’t have much depth. Their minor league system is strong on position players but much weaker with pitchers. Big drop off after Buchholz.

    Losing Schilling was a huge blow for them, especially with Buchholz innings cap. It wasn’t just losing Schilling but when they lost him. By the time his shoulder problems became known it was too late to upgrade their staff.

    They desperately need another arm – but at this stage in the year that is just not easy to find.

    Wakefield and Taverez are big question marks.

    The yankee pitching depth will be an enormous relative advantage this year compared to what the sox are going to have to paste together to stabilize the back of their rotation.

  155. LibertyBelle March 17th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    It’s “el comedulce” :-)

    And what a beautiful swing that was.

  156. Patrick March 17th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    The offense is TOASTING these scrubs

  157. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    “three games might be a short audition, but it would be much better than keeping Lane or Ensberg on the bench”

    yeah, who’d want a former all-star on the bench? I mean, a quality right-handed bat to balance the lineup against tough lefties…screw that, I want a pinch runner that’ll get into a game twice a week!

  158. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    Id rather go with a 23 man squad for the first 3 games then call up Gardner. 3 games arent enought waste an option.
    The Sox pitchers are throwing batting practice today.:)

  159. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    wow that was ball 4 , but I understand

  160. Kelli in Conn. March 17th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    I still say that Dustin Pedroia is the Little-Bit-O-Luck lottery guy minus the horn rimmed glasses.

  161. Dan March 17th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Shouldn’t that be 6-0? (It was 4-0, and Jeter was on 1st)

  162. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    nice of the sox to drive all the way up from ft myers to throw batting practice for us

  163. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    “The yankee pitching depth will be an enormous relative advantage this year compared to what the sox are going to have to paste together to stabilize the back of their rotation.”

    And yet I was just reading a newspaper article the other day about how the Yankee pitching depth was good, but just not quite as good as what the Sox had. I mean…The Yankees just have a potential ace starting the year in the bullpen, a couple swing-men, and another guy with #2 starter upside starting in AAA.

  164. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Something tells me that Tavares won’t be hitting too many Yankee batters, they make you pay. Manager SHOULD put a stop to that. Even if it’s not intentional, don’t go inside if you don’t have your stuff.

  165. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    7-0 Yankees after 2.
    It took an hour to play 2 innings!!

  166. Fran March 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    The Yanks should save these runs for the regular season!

    Pettitte looks good. Glad to see that coming off his missed start.

  167. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Can someone tell the Yankees that this is just a spring training game. Anyone think they came to this game to trying to send a message?

  168. Ranting Guy March 17th, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    My guess on what Boston can expect from Colon this year is basically the same as when they signed David Wells:

    He’ll show flashes of his old brilliance but not be consistent about it. Maybe he’ll throw well for a few innings at a time, maybe even a few games at a time. But he’ll be awful in as many games as he’s good in, the rest of the time he’ll be mediocre, and he’ll miss a lot of games because he’ll have various problems a rising from being in terrible shape.

  169. Mike March 17th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    no doubt Curt Schilling will write another blog how Colon actually has great stuff and will be of great help to the sox.

    GTFO!!!

  170. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    It was nice to see Matsui and Cano go the other way.

  171. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Does anyone have a pitch count on Tavarez?

  172. Mike March 17th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    no hitter gone COME ON ANDY!

  173. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    are we slowing down the website or is it my computer? it took 10mins to reload this webpage…

  174. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    am I the only one who thinks Damon lagged to that ball

  175. kd March 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Is anyone watching the game? Did Tavarez hit the Captain on purpose? If so, suspension?

    As far as making a statement, I’m not sure. The vets are the ones making it happen. My guess is that they’re just trying ot get good at bats

  176. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Damon really troubled by the sun out there

  177. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    I hate when people equate winning in spite of X with X being a good idea.

    Like…”The Sox won with Lugo at SS, so having Lugo at SS was a good move for the Sox,” for example.

  178. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge March 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Hey all, just back from the prade. Did every kid in the NYC area cut school, and drink? Geez. It was pretty fun. Only got to see 2 bag pipe bands. :( Glad to see our Yankees kickng butt and taking names. Hope Jeet is okay. :( Darnit Freddie Kruger!!

  179. CB March 17th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    “And yet I was just reading a newspaper article the other day about how the Yankee pitching depth was good, but just not quite as good as what the Sox had.”

    I agree. There’s a big difference between depth of pitching in the starting staff on the 25 man roster and organizational depth.

    The Sox got lucky last year that they had no major injuries to a staff that had two 40 year old pitchers in it.

    Now Schilling is down. Wakefield looked like he started to deteriorate last year.

    And also – Okajima had a dead arm at the end of the year. He rebounded in the playoffs but it’ll be interesting to see how he pitches this year off that large workload he had last year.

    They don’t have much depth in the pen either. If Okajima takes a step back they’ll have trouble getting to papelbon. Timlin is another year older, Declaramen, Synder, etc. aren’t very good.

  180. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    no tavarez lost command. it wasn’t intentional… he pretty much couldn’t find the strike zone for the entire second inning…

  181. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    am I the only one who thinks Damon lagged to that ball

    He’s a red sox in a Yankee uniform. Come on Brandon! If anyone you should know this.

  182. Nettles vs. Lee March 17th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    The Biggest Loser – Baseball Edition

    Bartolo Colon
    Sidney Ponson
    David Wells
    Curt Schilling

  183. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    “am I the only one who thinks Damon lagged to that ball”

    I think he just had no idea where it was. He wasn’t lazy…he had no idea where the ball was.

  184. Wolf In Pinstripes March 17th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Yep…Jeter’s got no range to his left. ;)

  185. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    who said jete was losing a step? that was some range right there, let’s see lugo make that play

  186. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Anyone still have doubts over Jeter’s range?

  187. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Yep…Jeter’s got no range to his left.

    I dont think he makes that play last year.

  188. Ranting Guy March 17th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Hopefully (from a NY point of view) Buckholz and Lester get over worked this year because the team won’t get the innings they needed from Colon & Schilling. If they have good years this year, fine. NY will most likely be equal to the task this year. If the workload takes its toll on Laptop’s & Lester’s arms and they develop problems in ’09 or ’10 that’s good for NY, because NY will have the three young guns well prepared & just hitting their stride.

    For Boston, it’s critical to have a good run this year because NY will have a clear advantage soon. And w/o Schilling (and Santana never arriving, and Colon being a shell of his old self) Boston may not have enough of a rotation right now.

  189. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    “I agree. There’s a big difference between depth of pitching in the starting staff on the 25 man roster and organizational depth.”

    But the article was saying that their organizational depth was good. That “oh, they lost Schilling and Beckett, but look at what they can throw at you! A Legit Japanese Ace! A Crafty Vet! Promising youth! Former Cy Young Winner! The Yanks would be screwed if they lost Wang and Moose!”

    Nothing about how Lester’s a 5 inning pitcher, Colon’s not actually useful, etc.

  190. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Andy brushed back PAPI 8O

  191. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    lol there goes the retribution pitch right there

  192. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    For the folks actually watching the game, is Pettitte actually struggling? trying new things? Can you tell?

  193. Jane - Shelley is the new Sheriff in town March 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    I knew it. Andy walked the midget to practice the his pick-off move.

  194. Andrea - anti-anti March 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    I love Andy’s pick-off.

  195. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    I’ve been saying it for a while now, respect Jeter’s gangster.

  196. Jax March 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Finally someone moved fatty off the plate.

  197. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    How many pitches will Andy throw today? Hes on 55 already.

  198. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    “I dont think he makes that play last year.”

    I agree.

  199. Alan March 17th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Andy still has the best pickoff move around.

  200. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    YES!!Pettite tried to hit Ortiz!!He’s reading my posts. Now if he can only go throught with it.

  201. Drew March 17th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Love that up and in to Ortiz

  202. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Looks like Paps been teaching Papi the river dance.

  203. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Dandy Andy does it again!

  204. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    “For the folks actually watching the game, is Pettitte actually struggling? trying new things? Can you tell?”

    He’s getting behind guys every now and again, but he’s not really struggling. I’m sure he’ll be miffed about some of these walks, but the “double” should’ve been a fly out to LF.

  205. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    he’s fine, maybe not in tune with his conditioning yet… he’s not doing too bad, as mentioned that pick off move was ridiculous… got pedroia so bad “the midget” should go home and cry…
    otherwise, andy’s looking good, just need more conditioning

  206. YankeesBen (I'm Happy Hughes Stayed) March 17th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    NICE!

  207. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    I like the 2 Ks to Ortiz! :D

  208. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    “Pettite tried to hit Ortiz!!”

    No, he came inside to open up the outside of the plate.

    I think if he was trying to hit him, he would have.

  209. Yankee4life! March 17th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    ALl our pitchers have to throw inside more. These big lefties love the ball over the plate.

  210. scott March 17th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Man Papi must have a 6 inch vertical

  211. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Jeter made a concerted effort in the winter to work on his range because his mama (and at least 2 honeys) went to him and told him that a bunch of nobodies at the LoHud Yankees blog were talking smack about his range. :)

  212. Mike March 17th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Did Andy really just throw inside to Ortiz?

  213. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    yes he did Mike, and we love it !!!

  214. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Damon looking POOR today. Is that 3 K’s?

  215. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    A pitch between Posada’s wickets is a wild pitch?

  216. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    is it just me, or does damon seemed to be struggling with hitting?

  217. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Damon, why did you even bother to show up today?

  218. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    “told him that a bunch of nobodies at the LoHud Yankees blog were talking smack about his range.”

    I wonder if they also told him that scouts, analysts and baseball executives were saying the same things…

    Either way, if Jeter manages to get to more balls than he did in 07, that’s a huge boon to the Yanks.

  219. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    2 K’s.

  220. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    whozat-No, he came inside to open up the outside of the plate.

    I think if he was trying to hit him, he would have.

    You must have not gotten the memo. Girardi crew is the baseball version of the Bad Boys this year. In my mind he was sending a message. Good thing for them Duncan is sitting this one out.

  221. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    lol, i wouldnt say a bunch of nobodies… I mean how about that “Statistical analysis” paper from University of Pennsylvania that said he was the worst defensive shortstop in the majors

  222. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    UGH – the bobblehead hits a homer

  223. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Uhh, that was a joke, guys. If it were real, at least 4 honeys would’ve tattled.

  224. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    good thing there’re two weeks left on ST… I don’t really think that Andy will make it through 6 innings… but for the first 60 pitches today he was pretty damn good.

  225. Russell NY March 17th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    C’mon Andy! Don’t let these dirtbags have their way.

  226. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Heath Phillips putting the nail in his own coffin.

  227. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    why do we have a AA pitcher in there?

  228. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    Andy pitched good today really 1 ER if not for Damon’s OF goof

  229. CB March 17th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    Andy’s had a very good spring training. With all the controversy his off season conditioning got thrown off.

    Before camp started he admitted to being behind where he wanted to be and the yankees thought he’d be behind the other pitchers in camp.

    He’s looked particularly good given that. He’s still building his endurance but his stuff has been great.

  230. G. Love March 17th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    I’m thinking in games Shelley doesn’t start in this season, we should keep him locked in a box like the Gimp in Pulp Fiction until we need him.

    Thoughts?

  231. SJ44 March 17th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    You guys realize these games don’t count? Let’s get everybody out of this game without any injuries and incidents and that’s good enough for today.

    The one area of the pitching staff I really hope Eiland and Girardi address is the half inning after the Yankees score runs.

    For the last 3 years they have been unable to have the shutdown half inning after they score. For some pitchers (Mussina) it seems they simply can’t do it. For others, they try to be too fine, walk too many batters, and it leads to big innings.

    Its why they had to burn so many pitchers per game last year. Some nights, they needed 4 guys to finish the last two innings of games. That is unacceptble.

    To me, that’s a mindset issue and it has to be a point of emphasis with the pitching staff this season.

    The Dynasty Teams were great at it. The last 3 Yankee teams were awful at putting up the shutdown inning.

    Even though its an exhibition game, we are seeing this crop up again today. Hopefully, this is something Eiland and Girardi prioritize with the pitching staff this season.

  232. jay destro March 17th, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    crazy day here at legends. A lot of andy’s pitches looked up and Heath ain’t making much of a case for himself. The gaggle of bostonian college girls while quite attractive are fairly chatty and annoying. I was yelling quite loud and obnoxiouly to drown out the sox fans.

  233. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    CB …(1) The Sox had quite a few injuries to their starting pitchers last year; Beckett, Schilling and Wakefield all were on the DL (Schilling for 7 weeks). They were not “injury-free.”
    (2) The pitch to Papi was more “at him” than the pitch that hit Jeter. Jeter dove into a pitch at his hands; Ortiz got out of the way of a pitch at his chest.
    (3) Colon will probably stink, but he will NEVER help the Sox unless he reacquires most of his velocity. He’s not going to morph into Greg Maddux. Therefore, I was pleasantly surprised. Those who say that his velocity doesn’t matter are wrong, but he certainly must locate MUCH better to be of any value. It was only his second ST appearance, and only one ball (Cano’s) was well hit.
    (4) Jerry Remy was asked earlier today (by the NY press)to comment on Hank S. He declined, but said something interesting on NESN. To paraphrase, Remy said that George was a live wire, but limited his comments to his own team and players, who he would regularly rip. On the other hand, Remy said, Hank feels free to comment on other teams and players. Remy left it there, but the inference was that Hank is visiting where he doesn’t belong

  234. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    That’s three well hit balls by lefties off of Phillips. I think Traber just got closer to a bullpen slot. He’s pitching later today, no?

  235. Sara March 17th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Who is this Phillips guy? he stinks!!!

  236. SJ44 March 17th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    They have a AA pitcher in the game because the game doesn’t count. It ain’t that complicated.

  237. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    I was wondering where Brian was…

  238. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    thanks for setting us straight , brian sox fan.

  239. jay destro March 17th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    giambi looks like a monster. Just huge.

  240. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    “Beckett”

    He missed what? 2, 3 starts?

    Compared to the Yankee pitching situation, the Sox were sitting pretty.

  241. Alan March 17th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Yes Brian. Thanks so much for the Red Sox excuses. It’s time to hear all about their pitching depth this year

  242. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    SJ, i know they don’t count…we’re just having some fun…

  243. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Brian,

    Jeter did NOT dive. He reacted late and failed to get out of the way, but he was straight up and spun when he got hit. He’s not interested in getting on base by HBP in ST at the risk of an injury to his wrist.

  244. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Iv been one against resigning Abreu after the year. But if he has swings like hes had today throughout the season. I would ink him for no more than 2 years. He will probably get more elsewhere. Thoughts?

  245. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    “giambi looks like a monster. Just huge.”

    He looks less bulky than last season on the TV, though.

  246. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    lol jay, nice job at legends… keep on representing man…
    it’s quite a chilly day here up north… must be real nice in florida
    I didn’t mean to seem critical of Andy’s pitching, just to say that he will probably be fine by the start of the season; as he was sensational throughout the first couple innings anyways…

  247. Rich March 17th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Tavarez a$$ kissing time with Michael Kay. Has he said anything nice about a Yankee today?

  248. Jimmy 27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    G Love
    Funny
    But Goonies more appropriate “Hey You guys……!!!”

  249. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    sj-You guys realize these games don’t count?

    Its called being a Yankeeholic. Cant help it.

  250. jk March 17th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    The Curse of Senator Mitchell continues.

    Since he released his Yankees report:

    Schilling out for the season
    Beckett injures back
    Patriots choke
    Strong spring for Pettitte.

    Keep up the good work, Senator Mitchell!

  251. Oliver(From singapore) March 17th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Hey guys!!

    Its close to 3 in the morning in this side of the world.

    Real hard to get baseball on tv here so thanks for the updates!!

    Yankess all the way!! This will be our year!!

  252. SJ44 March 17th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Traber’s spot was pretty much assured when they put him on the 40 man roster, Heath Phillips is not in the mix for the job. He will be in AAA.

    Brian, comparing the Jeter and Ortiz HBP is more nonsensical babbling by you.

    Julian Tavarez has a reputation for hitting guys after he gets touched up. Andy Pettitte has no such rep.

    I have no idea if Tavarez was throwing at Jeter today or just didn’t have any command. I do know Andy Pettitte isn’t throwing at David Ortiz in an exhibition game.

    Jeter dives into pitches and Ortiz stands practically on top of home plate, wearing armor. So, what’s your point? You have to pitch Ortiz inside. If he is sitting on the plate, those pitches are going to hit him.

    Your fascination with Hank Steinbrenner is comical. Didn’t one of your owners call the Yankees the “Evil Empire” a while back? Is that not talking about another ballclub? Or, are the rules different when a Red Sox owner talks about the Yankees?

    Your Pro-Red Sox slant on everything wouldn’t be so bad if you weren’t trying to sound neutral.

  253. saucY March 17th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    “Curse of Senator Mitchell”
    :lol:

  254. Jimmy 27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    What is kay saying about Tavares?

  255. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    “He looks less bulky than last season on the TV, though.”

    Agreed. The guy looks pretty good this season. He looks strong. Hopefully he’ll stay healthy this season.

  256. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    “But if he has swings like hes had today throughout the season. I would ink him for no more than 2 years. He will probably get more elsewhere. Thoughts?”

    If he has a good year, I’d offer him a year with an option, and go as far as two years plus a third year team option with a sizeable buyout.

    He’d probably get more elsewhere, but maybe he likes playing in NY, blending into a team of allstars enough to take it. I’d want to have some good trade options lined up, though. If he has a bad year or wants too many years, I’d rather trade some minor league pitching depth for a 30-ish RH RFer with two, three years on his deal.

  257. jay destro March 17th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    this game is long. Jorge isn’t hitting well from my view. Amazing how many people are here. Scalpers were asking for $150 per ticket today and people were paying it. Btw plz don’t tell my wife the college chicks are cute.

  258. CB March 17th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    “(1) The Sox had quite a few injuries to their starting pitchers last year; Beckett, Schilling and Wakefield all were on the DL (Schilling for 7 weeks). They were not “injury-free.”

    The red sox last year got 85 starts out of Beckett, Schilling and Wakfield. How many do you expect?

    They got 55 starts out of two pitchers who are older than 40.

    Yes, I know they had some injury trouble and schilling missed some time but my main point was that they didn’t have any devastating injuries to either their starting staff or pen.

    Compare what happened to the sox last year with the yankees.

    This year is entirely different because Schilling isn’t just out with a sore shoulder – he’s likely out for the year.

    Totally different story than last year. Schilling had a much better year last year than Matsuzka and he was the sox second best pitcher in the play offs.

    And the larger point still stands – the sox don’t have great organizational depth in their pitching. They have quality up front but its thin.

  259. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    Jay – Mrs. Destro called and she is not pleased.

  260. mel March 17th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    jay,

    Ask the college girls what they think about Papelbon. Then ask them what they think about Elsbury.

  261. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    whozat-agreed on Abreu. Who would you go for out there as the replacement? Or do you put Duncan out there instead? He showed off a very good arm in yesterdays game.

  262. fleas (almost always negative) March 17th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    So this is what the Yankees would look like without Arod…

    I have to say, love ‘em or hate ‘em Arod adds plenty of excitement to this team..

    Me personally, I am forever grateful to have Arod back.. even if he makes me want to strangle him from time to time.

  263. Big V March 17th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    Only Grapefruits………but Hat’s off to Abreu for not taking the 12mm resigning for granted. Nice Spring Bra!

    Now hopefully that continues in the chilly April/May months that he dislikes.

    The BigV likes what he sees…….

  264. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Game day sucks today.

  265. DMan March 17th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Glad Traber will probably make the team..

    I thought he’d be a dark horse when they signed him.

  266. jay destro March 17th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    giambi playing a decent first base. When a ball went over his head it was funny to see him leap. Girls asked me to open their beer bottle. Wife doesn’t like girls. Life aint perfect

  267. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Jay Destro-As long as your not calling them by numbers and changing your name. Your safe. Oh and if they tell you they are going into the music business. Walk away.

  268. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    SJ – get off your soap bok and try to understand what you read.
    My point re: the Jeter HBP and the pitch to Ortiz is that the pitch to Jeter was easier to get out of the way of, but that he dives into the plate as a matter of course, therefore he gets hit by pitches that most people avoid. The pitch to Ortiz was at his body, and Ortiz still managed to avoid it.

    To conclude: Jeter get hit a lot because he does a lousy job of getting out of the way. Ortiz doesn’t get hit a lot because he does a good job of getting out of the way.
    I’ll break that down more for you if you need it.

  269. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    How bad were Albaladejo’s pitches to Ortiz?

  270. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Talking about Abreu. Nice heads up play,forcing out the runner on second.Hes having a very good day.

  271. Clare March 17th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Brian’s the last person in the world who should talk about soap “bok’s”. Have we officially decided that he’s a troll who should be ignored yet?

  272. Jane - Shelley is the new Sheriff in town March 17th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    What’s a “soap bok”?

  273. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    “Who would you go for out there as the replacement? Or do you put Duncan out there instead? He showed off a very good arm in yesterdays game.”

    I don’t know who I go for. I don’t think Duncan’s a complete enough hitter, or a good enough defender to be a league average RFer, so that’s not a solution. If he has a good season this year as a platoon guy, maybe that opens up options to acquiring a lefty RFer instead of looking harder for a RFer.

    Put it this way…there are NO free agent RFers that are interesting next year, except Bobby on a short-enough deal. So, it’s a trade. And you don’t know who’ll be available until you see which teams have had young guys step up and push vets, or who’s upgraded at RF and is pushing a useful guy into a backup situation…

    Can’t figure it out until next December, really :-)

  274. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    nasty slider or sinker w/e that was

  275. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    CB – They also had to substitute Tavares for Lester for most of last year.

    But you’re not wrong. They had injuries to the starters last year, but not at a crippling rate. But, as a frame of reference, in 2004 they were injury free in the starting rotation (or was it 2003? one of those years).

  276. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge March 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    JAY- Stop hitting on red sox fans!! :evil:

  277. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Brian – I didn’t see you defend the point about the Red Sox complaining about Hank S. talikng about other teams while their owner was the first person to be recorded referring to the Yankees as “The Evil Empire”. Any thoughts?

  278. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Jane – “soap bok” = soap box. Sorry.

  279. Jimmy 27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Will there be a fight at the bikeracks after school?

  280. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Thank goodness, the Rays aren’t playing VT. Someone might get hurt.

    Clare, Brian’s just here for “a thoughtful discussion about baseball”. As long as he can take it as well as give it, no big deal right? lol.

  281. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    “Ortiz doesn’t get hit a lot because he does a good job of getting out of the way.”

    Oh, yeah…he’s real agile at the plate.

    Ortiz doesn’t get hit because pitchers are afraid to come inside on him. Part of that is because if you miss inside to a big lefty…it’s leaving the park. Part of that is because putting someone on in front of Manny is just stupid.

    Jeter hangs over the plate just like Youk does. They both get hit a lot for that exact reason.

  282. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Jane – “soap bok” = soap box. Sorry.

    O.k. What does the term soap box mean?

  283. jaybrochill March 17th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    of course he doesn’t have a rebuttal

    in terms of ortiz and his stance… it must scare Red Sox Nation that NYY might get ortiz out of his comfort zone this year, eh?

  284. Jane - Shelley is the new Sheriff in town March 17th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    That was sarcastic, Brian. Sorry Pete, I had to.

  285. jay destro March 17th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    big George is in the house. Also kay’s massive cranium is providing shade to us fans. Saw hank in the box with his dad before.

  286. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    “CB – They also had to substitute Tavares for Lester for most of last year.”

    They weren’t planning on Lester being in the rotation, though.

  287. scott March 17th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    I could go for a bok’s of Lucky Charms

  288. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    SoS,

    It means giving a speech or a lecture about something you feel strongly about. The audience is not usually thrilled with the subject matter.

  289. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    “O.k. What does the term soap box mean?”

    “getting up on one’s soap box” basically means you’re lecturing everyone.

  290. chaossolver March 17th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    well albaladejo didn’t do too bad against ortiz…
    that’s it for me guys… back to class. enjoy the day

  291. Nick March 17th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Brian (Socks Fan) -

    The delusional Socks slants make for comic relief. I suspect that SJ 44′s sides are splitting as are others. Be advised there’s a vast difference between an excuse and a reason.

  292. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Bok choy’s good with oyster sauce.

  293. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Jane – to be on one’s “soap box” means to be preaching to a crowd or group (from on top of the soap box), much like a pastor at a pulpit.
    So someone “on his soap box” isn’t doing a lot of listening.

  294. SJ44 March 17th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    If Bobby Abreu has the same kind of year he has had the past two seasons, I re-sign him and not think anything of it.

    Two years, with an option, and I bet he takes the deal.

    The guy is the perfect #3 hitter in this order.

    Its pretty tough to find a guy who goes 120/110 (Runs/RBI) every year. The Red Sox spent 70 million thinking they could get that out of JD Drew.

    Guys who play everyday and put up the numbers Abreu puts up are hard to find.

    The kids in AA this year aren’t going to be ready for next season and Shelley Duncan is not an everyday player.

    If Bobby has another big year, I think Cash has to re-sign him.

  295. vinny-b March 17th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    generation trey. Don’t like the nickname?

    vote for a different, nickname. No registration, required.

    http://mvn.com/mlb-yankees/

  296. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Melky needs to take more than one pitch. That’s two at bats in a row. Take the first pitch.

  297. Jimmy 27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    You would stand on an overturned soapbox and preach to all the heathens in the crowds. REPENT THE END IS NEAR kind of stuff

  298. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    Nick – I don’t follow you. An “excuse” or a “reason” regarding what?

  299. CB March 17th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    “They also had to substitute Tavares for Lester for most of last year.”

    True – but they were prepared to not have Lester for the year. They knew well before the 2006 season ended that he wasn’t going to be pitching for them in 2007.

    That allowed them to adjust accordingly and I’m sure that was part of the reason they were so aggressive in going after Dice-K.

    With Schilling this year its very different because of the timing. Season ending injuries to pitchers after the Winter transaction period are over can’t be made up for very easily. Once the big moves of the winter are over you’re left sorting through the left overs (like Colon) or banking on internal options (like Buchholz).

    Its not reasonable to expect 31 starts out of Wakefield this year. I don’t think you can just pencil in any 40 year old + pitcher for that kind of workload. If you get it hey that’s a great plus – but that’s a bonus not a reasonable way to plan out a rotation.

    Depth is an issue because of how late the Sox found out about Schilling’s injury and the lack of major league ready arms after Buchholz. Masterson is still too far away and doesn’t have a third pitch. Bowden is far too raw.

  300. scott March 17th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    What is everyone’s take on the Heavyweight Bok’sing Division?

  301. raymagnetic â„¢ March 17th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    “On the other hand, Remy said, Hank feels free to comment on other teams and players. Remy left it there, but the inference was that Hank is visiting where he doesn’t belong”

    Brian, as usual your socks are showing. What did Mr. Remy say about boy wonder making comments about Mussina and Kevin Brown?

  302. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    IDK how much more of these Kay stories I can take

  303. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Brian – Still no answer to the pot calling the kettle black in regards to the Sox and Hank?

  304. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Albaladejo has replaced Joba as the big kid on the mound.

  305. ray March 17th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Phil Hughes is also playing cricket in Australia. Here he is:

    http://content-usa.cricinfo.co.....72364.html

  306. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    did Johnny guzzle shots pregame I mean seriously he’s the only LF having problems today

  307. YankeesBen (I'm Happy Hughes Stayed) March 17th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Bad Day for damon.

  308. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    Brian,

    Hank was wrong, but Papelbon was double wrong.

    It’s all good between Hank and Henry. Bored rich boys playing bored rich boy games.

  309. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    LOL on Georgy’s mask being customed for his ears :lol:

  310. CB March 17th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    I think at times its hard to appreciate just how good and how valuable a player Abreu is, especially in the yankees line up.

    Last year, even with that horrendous start, Abreu had the 8th best OPS of any right fielder in baseball. In 2006 he had the 5th highest OPS among right fielders.

    If he gets off to a better start and rebounds against lefties he’ll be back to a top 5 OPS guy this year.

    You just don’t find those kind of players very easily. Jackson and Tabata aren’t going to be ready next year, IMO and Abreu on a two year deal will be the perfect bridge.

    Your not going to replace him with anyone comparable in free agency and getting any comparable player in a trade will cost a fortune. They would have to trade Jackson or Tabata to get a comparable right fielder to Abreu.

  311. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    hey, ray.

  312. PAT M. March 17th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    come August, The Red Sox may be more concerned about Toronto than they will be about New york….All the unexpected little things that went right for them last season, they really can’t depend upon again in 08….Bullpen comes to mind right away….Depth in pitching is their # 1 concern…..

  313. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Didn’t the Yankees sign some teenager from Australia?

    My god, this game’s taking forever.

  314. as2008 March 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Are all the starters still in? Just tuned in

  315. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Apparently Brian only reacts to points he can easily defend.

  316. myrtlebeachfan March 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    This is addressed to Brian, the Red Sox fan.

    You have to understand that you bring a bias for the Red Sox into a realm where there is a bias for the Yankees. It is very clear that Derek Jeter is a much more nimble and quick moving person than is David Ortiz. Both players tend to get hit often. Is there any way to actually determine who is better at avoiding fast moving, hard objects?

    There is one thing that you cannot get away with here without harsh criticism, and that is going toe to toe with ad-hominem argument against our established and respected posters. So, while I fully respect your opinions and feelings regarding both the Red Sox and Yankees, and the MLB in general, I think it would be wise for you to abstain from such confrontations so that you can post here and have some good, even-minded conversation with fellow baseball fanatics. You wouldn’t be on a Yankees blog as a Sox fan if you didn’t love baseball.

  317. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    What’s the obsession with the wires behind home plate? They’re even using the telestrator

  318. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Raymagnetic – I’m passing on what was said on NESN. Nothing more.I’m not trying to rechronicle who said the most stupid thing about which person in response to whatever was said beforehand during which time frame.
    Make what you will of the Remy paraphrase. He did say that he didn’t want to get into it with Hank, which is why he had a “no comment” for the print media.

  319. The J Train- Save The Drama For Yo Mama March 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Italian men refer to the female sex organ as bokala

  320. scott March 17th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Wow Traber is nasty

  321. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    BET !! and Traber keeps shining

  322. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Moss strikes out.

  323. TIME 4 #27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    If damon cant catch the ball, then send him back to boston. I dont know but he looks very bad.

  324. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Groundout. End of inning. Good look from Traber. Inherited two runners in scoring position, and got out of the inning unscathed.

  325. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Groundout. End of inning. Good look from Traber. Inherited two runners in scoring position, and got out of the inning unscathed.

  326. Corey March 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    DEJO is out, Traber is In! Just a hunch

  327. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    I’m liking Traber more and more. Gameday has his ERA as 0.00. How many innings has he pitched this spring so far?

  328. Alan March 17th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Nothing not to like with Billy Traber. Cool as a cucumber. He continues to make his case.

  329. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    enroll today in johnny damon’s school for the blind…

  330. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Nice play by Betemit. See? He really is looking like Alex this year.

  331. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    mike r-Brian – Still no answer to the pot calling the kettle black in regards to the Sox and Hank?

    I might not know what soap box means but i know this. Answer the question.
    I got your back mr.president of anti.

    signed
    assistant president.

  332. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Corey – They aren’t really competing for the same spot.I do think that Patterson will take Albaladejo’s spot though.

  333. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    mike r-Brian – Still no answer to the pot calling the kettle black in regards to the Sox and Hank?

    I might not know what soap box means but i know this. Answer the question.
    I got your back mr.president of anti.

    signed
    assistant president.

    I can always count on you buddy.

    Regards,

    Your #1 Fan

  334. The J Train- Save The Drama For Yo Mama March 17th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    hey traber was a very high draft pick…sometimes players take a long time to finally get it…especially pitchers. he is 28,in his prime, if its ever going to happen for him, its now…maybe we got him just in time.

  335. CB March 17th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Two best relief pitcher this spring besides Mo

    Traber – they picked up off the scrap heap and cost them nothing.

    Patterson – signed out of the independent league a year and a half ago.

    Cashman deserves a lot of credit for being creative in acquiring options for the pen.

  336. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    Myrtlebeach fan – you are, in a word, wrong. Jeter has NO capacity for getting out of the way of pitches. His weight is going totally forward, and he is incapable of recoiling from pitches that bore in. He can’t even get his hands out of the way, because he can’t spin and get them behind his body.
    Ortiz’ stride is towards right-center field, enabling him to jump back from pitches.
    This has NOTHING to do with who is more agile overall. It has to do with their HBP frequency, and the resaon why.

    It’s not even a Yankee/Red Sox thing. Just open your eyes, and know what you’re seeing.

  337. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    I think that was Traber’s 5th inning this spring.

  338. Corey March 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    Mike-

    I know theyre not really competing….but hes surely solidifying his spot and Patterson/Ohlendorf are looking a little more reliable than Dejo

  339. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    Damon should have came to this game dressed in red sox gear.

    Traber in Patterson should be in. With Trabers outing today. Its his to lose. Lets go with the dark horse guys.

  340. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    CB – by the way, you’re spot on regarding the Sox pitching depth (even with Beckett). At least as many question marks as the Yankees.

  341. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Morgan better make this roster

  342. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Sorry meant Traber and Patterson

  343. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Corey – I agree 100%

  344. Motown Yankees Fan March 17th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Can someone update the score? My computer here at work seems motivated to keep me away from every site that will update the score for me. Thanks

  345. Alan March 17th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Brian (Red Sox fan) ;

    Please give one good reason why this board is supposed to give a sh*t what’s said on NESN or by Jerry Remy. Are there people in New England that disinterested ?

  346. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    So where’s Ken O’Singleton & David O’Coney?

  347. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    “Please ignore any Red Sox trolls who decide to make comments. If you do respond, use multi-syllabic words. That will confuse them.”

  348. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    8-4, bottom of the 6th, 2 outs.

  349. Motown Yankees Fan March 17th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Mel – thanks

  350. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    motown,
    8-4. Posada is up vs. wild thing(hensen).

  351. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Motown,- 8-4 the good guys are winning

  352. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Motown,

    No problem.

    I feel bad for Hansen, rushed through the system even though the Red Sox system was and continues to be loaded with talented arms.

  353. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Motown,

    No problem.

    I feel bad for Hansen, rushed through the system even though the Red Sox system was and continues to be loaded with talented arms.

  354. Motown Yankees Fan March 17th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Thanks guys.

    Mike R. – I always refer to the Yanks as the “good guys.” Something my dad taught me. Makes me smile to see someone else do it.

  355. CAS March 17th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Pedroia looks like a character from Labyrinth or Willow

  356. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Hey talking about new england for only a second. Did anyone watch the beginning of John Adams yesterday? Not bad. If i didnt sleep in history class maybe i would more informed about that time. Im using the series as a refresher coarse.

  357. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Who was Jeter hugging?

  358. Rishi March 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    oh and all the regulars are out now…

  359. dana March 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    “I feel bad for Hansen, rushed through the system even though the Red Sox system was and continues to be loaded with talented arms.”

    The RS have a lot of depth in position players but they are certainly not “loaded with arms”.

  360. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    man Gonzo can pick it

  361. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    That was some slick fielding by Gonzo, given that Green basically hid the grounder from him.

  362. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    traber punching is ticket to the bronx

  363. desti(NY) 2008 March 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    A team never finishes a season with the identical pitching staff as Opening Day and for a multitude of reasons.
    This is the reason why the Yankees having the depth they’ll have at AAA Scranton/ Wilkes-Barre will be so beneficial.

  364. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    Motown – Very nice. It’s good to know I’m not alone in that. I sometimes get weird looks from non-fans when I say it.

  365. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Traber has to be what Cashman always refers to as lightning in a bottle. Many thanks to the Mets for drafting him and getting him mlb ready for us. Whens the last time we had a shut down lefty. Dont say last year in Meyers.

  366. Motown Yankees Fan March 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Mike – and the other team is always the “bad guys”, right?

  367. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    SOS_ i thought the john adams show was excellent last night, especially tom wilkinson playing ben franklin

  368. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Sorry, dana, that was sarcasm. So much is being made of the Sox farm system, but they’ve done a poor job of developing Hansen. Unless he was a poor prospect in the first place, but I thought he was highly regarded.

    Nice inning for Traber.

  369. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Alan – it’s a Yankee-related comment made on NESN. Some people might be interested.
    And there are those multi-syllabic Luddites who resent the advent of internet-driven communications. People of that ilk would not be interested.

  370. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Motown – Of course. There are very few exceptions. Virginia Tech for example. V Tech would be the “Other guys”.

  371. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    I would like to see Tabata and Jackson show a little more this spring. Tabata showed some power last spring but hasnt got going yet. Jackson, i just want to see all this talent that he possesis. So far Gardner has been the one im most impressed with.

  372. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    “I feel bad for Hansen, rushed through the system even though the Red Sox system was and continues to be loaded with talented arms.”

    Was it really? I mean, that was…06? When they pushed him up to the majors? I think they were reaching for arms that year.

  373. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    Before that flyball, Matsui was 3 for 3.

    Andy didn’t feel comfortable. :(

  374. Motown Yankees Fan March 17th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    Mike – good point.

  375. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    “I would like to see Tabata and Jackson show a little more this spring. Tabata showed some power last spring but hasnt got going yet. Jackson, i just want to see all this talent that he possesis. So far Gardner has been the one im most impressed with.”

    These are guys in ST coming up from A ball, basically. It’s just kind of unrealistic to expect them to come up and flash big power or whatever. I’m interested to see how they handle AA this year. That could be really cool.

    I mean…Austin had Mr. Octover saying he’s the best athlete in camp. He clearly impressed on some front, no?

  376. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    whozat,

    Keep up. See my 3:46 post. :)

  377. Lori March 17th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    mel- did he say why? Elbow?

  378. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    “luddite, ilk” i’m impressed!

  379. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    “Andy didn’t feel comfortable.”

    He doesn’t mean he felt physically uncomfortable. He felt like he wasn’t locked in with his pitches. That’s kind of to be expected. It’s been 10 days since his last outing. He’ll be fine.

  380. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    “Keep up. See my 3:46 post. ”

    :-P

    Sorry, I was “doing work”. And by “doing work”, I mean “making tea and eating a cookie”.

  381. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Yes, just out of synch after missing a start.

  382. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    he hit 99 mph twice in the spring

  383. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    whozat,

    As long as it was Bigelow Tea, you’re excused.

  384. Motown Yankees Fan March 17th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Mel – did they talk to Andy on YES? I’m tivoing the game, so just trying to figure out how long I should watch…

  385. saucY March 17th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    we get free bigelow tea at work. it’s great.

  386. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    three times hit 99 mph 100 mph now

  387. jk March 17th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Nice quote from Goose in the NY Times…..

    “The Yankees are still the greatest franchise in sports, period,” the Goose said. “The Red Sox win a couple and they lose their minds and think they’re No. 1. Nah. They’ve only got 24 more to go.”

  388. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Mowtown,

    Kay reported it on the air in the bottom of the 7th.

  389. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    saucY – Do your co-workers look half asleep most of the time?

  390. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    4 x 99 mph
    2 x 100 mph

    so far

  391. raymagnetic â„¢ March 17th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    “three times hit 99 mph 100 mph now”

    Who?

  392. mel March 17th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Sorry, that’s Motown. lol.

    Brandon, Bruney now hitting triple digits.

  393. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Brandon – How does his control look?

  394. raymagnetic â„¢ March 17th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Oh Bruney, but is he throwing strikes?

  395. Russell NY March 17th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Who is this Traber guy and how did we end up with him. I heard he was a mets first-round pick and bounced around to a few teams? Why was he bouncing around? Injury?

  396. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    6 99 mph fastballs
    3 100 mph fastballs

    this is the spring and Bruney is hitting that 8O god get some control pleeeeaase

  397. PAT M. March 17th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    If he can ever bottle his control, he’d be lights out…..

  398. mel March 17th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Unfortunately, a good inning by Bruney. I don’t mind if he makes the team as long as he leaves his sucky stuff behind.

  399. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    NESN has Bruney at 95.

  400. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    oh Bruney was locating better he hit one snag walking Ellsbury but then rebounded well to strike out Cash or Carter I think it was. His slider was at 93 mph he looked better.

  401. desti(NY) 2008 March 17th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Brian (Red Sox fan) ….

    Please express yourself monosyllabically so you can be understood. Bostonese is not spoken here.

  402. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Brian you need a new gun on NESN there was no way that was 95 mph

  403. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Brian you need a new gun on NESN there was no way that was 95 mph

  404. vinny-b March 17th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    do not matter. If bruney have options, let him begin in Scranton.

    Patterson, is the better fit.

  405. dennis March 17th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Bruney at 99-100 since when? did eiland fix his mechanics. Is he that good or was gator that bad.

  406. G. Love March 17th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Russell,

    Traber was the pitching jewel of the Mets farm system once upon a time.

    He was traded to Cleveland in the trade for Roberto Alomar to the Mets.

    He didn’t do well in Cleveland, had a lot of injury issues, I believe, and bounced around.

    Yet, he’s always had very good numbers against Lefty Hitters.

    The stats were there for all GM’s to see this guy had value as a lefty killer.

    Cashman and the staff did a nice one getting him in here and getting him to accept the fact that he projects as a better reliever than starter, since he was only viewed as a starter for awhile.

  407. mel March 17th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Brian,

    What was Colon hitting on NESN?

  408. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    MikeEff _ “John Adams” was excellent. The Ben Franklin character might well dabble in words like “ilk.” But use of the word Luddite would be anachronistic.

    Good show. You probably know that “John Adams” (Giammitti sp?) is the son of the late baseball commissioner.

  409. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    when you answer that also tell me how much that LHP topped out on NESN so we can compare readings

  410. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) March 17th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Dennis, Bruney was hitting tripple digits when he first came to the Yankees in 2006. Last year his velocity dipped quite a bit.

  411. mel March 17th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    dennis,

    Bruney had heat when he got here. He might have eased off to get more control. That didn’t really work either, so maybe they’re going to let him throw it through the wall and hope if finds the plate. Today it did.

  412. Kevin CT March 17th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Anyone think Cano has a legitimate shot at the batting title this year?

  413. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Mel – up to 94, mostly 93. I believe his two-seamers (from the movement) were around 89 – 91.

  414. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    dennis I’m thinking he was that bad, because Bruney looked real good in velocity that last inning, I don’t remember him doing it w/ ease like he did today.

  415. G. Love March 17th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Kaz Matsui out 2-3 weeks after surgery for an anal fissure.

    I’m just stating the facts here people. I know you all want to be informed.

  416. Kevin CT March 17th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    BTW anyone else read Carl Pavano’s Diary on RespectJetersGangster? Hysterical Stuff. I was laughing at work, again.

  417. dennis March 17th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    thats what I remember from last year 94-95 walking the ballpark like a crossing guard.

  418. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    Kevin CT I’m about to read it after this game :lol:

  419. mel March 17th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    I think we had him up to 95, so the guns are apart by about 1-2 mph.

  420. CB March 17th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    I don’t think those radar gun readings are accurate on Bruney.

    And with him its completely about control.

    He got out of the inning but walked Ellsbury. To me that’s more significant than the guys he struck out.

    It’s hard to know what to make of Bruney’s spring.

    Girardi has really only used him late in games when all the major leaguers have been pulled.

    Contrast that to the way he’s used Patterson in the middle of innings early in games. Ohlendorf has also gotten some early game appearances against the big league hitters.

    At this point – Bruney striking out minor leaguers doesn’t say much.

    Walking the only major league hitter he faced in the inning doesn’t help his case, however.

  421. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Brandon – Trabor was around 91; Pettite was mostly around 89.

    I think the NESN gun is more accurate. The Yankee gun had Alan Embree at 94 after he was picked up by the Yankees. He had been getting lit up at 88 the week before with the Sox

  422. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti) March 17th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    I was talking about your LHP the guy that pitched in the 8th what did he top out on

  423. mel March 17th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    We know that the YES gun is notoriously fast and make the adjustment in our heads, pea-brained as we may be. lol.

  424. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    I think the NESN gun might be a bit slow and the YES gun is notoriously fast. The truth is probably somewhere in between.

  425. mel March 17th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    Why did Jason break off after he passed the ball to Jeter on that run down? Did he just assume that Jeter would get him?

  426. MikeEff- Shelley , Play Every Day March 17th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Brian-sox fan—Cute. and i’ll give you props for your etymological research, but i don’t recall franklin using that word last night. and no, i don’t know the family history of any of the actors on the show.

  427. mel March 17th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Well, that was fun. May have been meaningless, but it was still twice as nice getting the win over the Sox.

  428. Hector the Projector March 17th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Early projections see Traber, Patterson, and Ensberg going north. Their jobs to lose.

  429. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Desti(NY):

    Yup,
    or
    OK.

  430. nyyfaninlaaland March 17th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Hey, a bit of news here. Chad Jennings who blogs for the Scrnton paper got to Yanks camp today, checked in with a few guys, and says Bruney is saying he has an option left. Chad’s blog is really good if you haven’t visited it. Link:

    http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.....fault.aspx

    This actually makes sense. There is a rule that a team gets a 4th option on a player if they reach the majors by the age of 24. Bruney fits that.

  431. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 17th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    CB as usual you make a very good point–i hadn’t even thought of that. walking the only major leaguer. food for ( girardi’s ) thought

  432. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    MikeEff – I was suggesting that Franklin MIGHT use that word. Paul Giammatti (I think that’s right) has done a ton of good work, and his father was (briefly) MLB Commissioner. I believe it was in the 80s, and he died after only a few months in office. I also believe that he had been President of Yale (but that’s from my fading memory). Could be wrong …..

  433. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Mikeeff,
    I liked Thomas Jefferson character. He seemed layed back but very respected. i.e. Jeter. Washington wasnt bad either.

    mel,
    Skip to my lu did you guys in yesterday for 22 straight. Dont get mad. My spurs are going into the playoff in a slump.When will their streak stop. Boston?

  434. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Does that mean that Colon was really throwing 91?

  435. SteveHoweYouDoin March 17th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    CAS – “Pedroia looks like a character from Labyrinth or Willow”

    Now THAT was funny.

    I had him pegged for a forest sprite in Tom Cruise’s flop, Legend.

  436. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    “Why did Jason break off after he passed the ball to Jeter on that run down? Did he just assume that Jeter would get him?”

    No…that’s what he’s supposed to do. The pitcher (or catcher?) goes over to cover 1B after the 1B runs the guy towards 2B.

  437. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 17th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Brian Sox Fan- do better research then because the word Luddite didn’t come into use until 1811. Franklin was long dead by then. know your stuff before you shoot your mouth off at me.

  438. Peter Rabbit March 17th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Can someone tell me how are Bruney, Ablakrlahejo, and Traber doing today?

  439. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Pedroia looks like Jim Carrey in the Grinch. Rat like reatures.

  440. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    I always pegged Pedroia as more of a Fraggle. I think it’s the weird movement in his swing.

  441. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    “Can someone tell me how are Bruney, Ablakrlahejo, and Traber doing today?”

    Traber looked great, Alba looked solid but not tremendously amazing, and Bruney struck out a couple minor leaguers, but walked Ellsbury (the only MLB-caliber player) with two outs.

  442. whozat March 17th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    “I think it’s the weird movement in his swing.”

    I don’t understand how he succeeds with his swing. It looks long and like he’s always swinging from his heels…how is he not super-strikeout-prone??

    Like…it seems like the inside corner would be a place you could get him out over and over and over again.

  443. Mike R. - Once you’ve seen one gyroball, you’ve seen ‘em all March 17th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    whozat – Sometimes ugly works. Do you remember Clyde Drexler? He would always look down when he dribbled. I never understood how he could see the court.

  444. S.o.S.27 March 17th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Mike R,
    Bill Cartrights freethrows. Batistas open stance. Oh wait he isnt in the league anymore.

  445. nyyfaninlaaland March 17th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Of course, as contrary to the Bruney option thing, he’s been up in 4 seasons. But 1 he was only down for 4 apps, might have been a rehab assignmnet which doesn’t count. Technicalities. But if he has another option, and it’s him saying so, that’s just more flexiblilty.

  446. Kelli in Conn. March 17th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    S.o.S.27
    March 17th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
    Pedroia looks like Jim Carrey in the Grinch. Rat like reatures.

    – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - -

    I still think Pedroia is that Little Bit Of Luck lottery guy with horn rimmed glasses.
    Yes, he is a member of the rodent family.

  447. trisha March 17th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    How the F did I miss this thread? I wondered why nobody was posting!

  448. Brian (Red Sox Fan) March 17th, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    MikeEff – revisit what I said …. I said that if Franklin were to use the word “Luddite,” it would have been an anachronism (therefore, out of chronlogical order and inherently incorrect). I said the opposite of what you understood me to say.
    My wife commandeered the computer from me, or I would have responded sooner.

  449. Russell W March 17th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    Thank you, G Love

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