Red Sox-Yankees: The Live Blog
Good afternoon and welcome to Legends Field. It’s 76 degrees and windy as the Yankees and Red Sox get together for their only meeting this spring.
It’ll be Andy Pettitte against Bartolo Colon.
Please ignore any Red Sox trolls who decide to make comments. If you do respond, use multi-syllabic words. That will confuse them.
Happy St. Patrick’s Day, by the way. My maternal grandfather, Kershaw Heywood, was Irish and loved his sports. I suspect he would be pleased I’m sitting here at a baseball game and getting paid for it.
FIRST INNING
Andy Pettitte got Lugo to ground to short and then struck out Pedroia and Ortiz.
The Yankees now lead 4-0. Colon loaded the bases with two outs before Hideki Matsui doubled down the left-field line. Robbie Cano followed with a two-run single to left.
Hmm, Bartolo Colon might not be such a great find after all. He was just lifted after walking his third batter of the inning. Three walks, three hits and a 4-0 lead for the Yankees. Julian Tavarez on to pitch now.
SECOND INNING
Another strong inning for Pettitte as he worked around a two-out walk of Varitek.
Tavarez hit Jeter in the elbow with a pitch in the bottom of the inning. Abreu followed with a home run into the stands in right field. 6-0 Yankees.
Giambi doubled and scored on a single by Matsui (2 for 2, 3 RBI). Now 7-0. This is the worst St. Paddy’s Day in Boston since the Great Green Beer Shortage of 1972.
THIRD INNING
Johnny Damon lost a ball in the sun that fell in for a double and led to a run. A wild pitch scored another. But Pettitte ended the inning by picking off Pedroia and striking out Ortiz. The first pitch to Big Papi was a chest-high inside fastball. Then he fanned him him something down and away. Pretty slick. 7-2 Yankees.
FOURTH INNING
1-2-3 for Tavarez. Pettitte allowed a wind-blown HR by Youkilis before Lowell flew deep to left.
That was it for the big lefty. His line: 3.1 3 3 3 2 3. One WP, one HR, 65 pitches/36 strikes. All in all, a solid day for him.
Heath Phillips allowed a run on three hits. 7-4. Lease an apartment, Billy Traber.
Abreu (2 for 2 with a walk) doubled and scored to make it 8-4. No nonsense manager Joe Girardi is now doing an inning live for YES.
FIFTH INNING
Jon Albaledejo pitching now.





Looks like Jay on a heads start in the previous thread
“If you do respond, use multi-syllabic words. That will confuse them.”
LOL. Classic.
Jay,
Thanks for checking in. We’ll need you when Pete goes to the clubhouse in the middle innings.
lol multi-syllabic words.
Go Yankees
you are doing a great job Pete
Jay,
Is Pedroia as small as he looks on tv?
I have a theory on why Arod isnt in the lineup vs. Colon. They want Colon to make the team so that he can get his hacks in when they count. If he went in today and bombed him there could be a chance we dont get him for batting practice in a real game.
Who’s on the Patterson make the team bandwagon?
Im off the Ensburg one though.
BIG FATTY has loss alot of weight STEEERRRRRROI….*coughs*
excuse me
Andy looking good through the first to batters. Lugo grounded to short and he struck out Pedroia swinging.
i’m on w/ patterson and off with ensberg…
great start for andy
And Ortiz is Ked swinging as well. Great 1st inning.
yep def. patterson make the team
he’s on fire since winter league… Traber was also a good move.
don’t know about the astros squad tho
Andy Looks GOOOOD, Working very quickly and effectively.
God I hate NESN…
What is that thing that Andy is always messing around with in his mouth? It looks like a plastic mouthpiece, but what is it for?
Hi everybody! Does anyone know why this game isn’t on gameday audio? How frustrating not to be able to listen to it on the radio, argh!!!
SoS,
LoL. I thought of that, too. But I think it was more that they didn’t want to give Alex false confidence.
I’m sure Colon is breathing a sigh of relief that Alex is taking his scheduled day off.
pete, you’re killing me. st. patrick’s day really was saturday!
Does anyone have a gameday link?
What’s Colon hitting, Pete?
lol Colon looks like he ate Damon…
shouldn’t he lose some weight sometime?
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/#20080317
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1
Breathing a sigh of relief, or stuffing his face with goobers.
he just hit 94 on the strike out pitch to Damon
kd – http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....;brand=mlb
thanks guys
Posted by JR7769
March 17th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Good Kennedy and Hughes radio interviews
http://tinyurl.com/255hrn
two audio clips from their appearances on WFAN
Best I’ve heard of Phil and Ian yet
Thanks, chaossolver, what was Colon hitting in his prime?
Who’s fatter, Colon or El Guapo? I went to a Red Sox game at Yankee stadium a few years ago and El Guapo was warming up in the bullpen right in front of me. That man was large. Needless to say he walked from the bullpen to the mound when he was called into the game.
I hate looking at Colon. He’s always too sweaty and bulbous.
if i had to guess… 98? i saw him throw that in the playoff against the yanks
Mel – I’ve read stories of Colon hitting triple digits in his prime.
Whoa.. Colon’s fastball looks very very good. Threw a 94mph heater to get Damon looking.Whoever had him in the mid-80s this winter is making stuff up i guess
yeah, that’s def. true…
i think the slowest pitch he’s thrown today was like 82
Colon has gone from an insurance policy to a an important piece for the sox.
With Schillings injury and Buchholz innings limit/ rocky spring training they are being forced to depend on Colon. They don’t have much depth.
Unfortunately, Colon has been a present surprise this spring. He looked awful all winter but threw in the low 90′s in his first ST start.
Okay, that makes sense that he would bounce back and hit 92 (94 on the Yes gun).
mel,
False confidence. Colon is Arods slump buster. Maybe cause hes so hott this spring theres no need. Colon used to hit 98 on the gun.
god bless lugo and his high salary, just dropped a semi pitch out
Jeter with a single and Abreu works the walk put men on 1st and 2nd with one out.
what scout was watching Colon he ‘s throwing 94 mph even hit 95
That didn’t take long for Kay’s first lame joke. Instead of a blue tooth, that guy has a green tooth.
I read that Colon only threw about 30 pitches in his first outing, should be interesting to see how far he gets in this game. Bobby chewed up a lot of pitches.
This umpire is terrible. No calls for andy and all calls for the fat ass.
Gameday is just not working for me today here in the office, so thanks to all for the updates. Too bad Alex isn’t up with two men on.
“Whoever had him in the mid-80s this winter is making stuff up i guess”
No, that was legitimate. He looked terrible in winter ball in the Dominican Republic by multiple reports.
That’s why he couldn’t even get a one year major league deal. Even the mets, with all their pitching problems, passed on him because he looked so bad.
His shoulder may just now be rounding into shape. How long he’ll hold up is anyone’s guess. But the sox may only need half a season from him.
bases are loaded… not looking too good now
SoS
Colon was expected to be topping out in the high 80s, so the fact that he is free and easy throwing 95 mph is a big deal.If he could ever stay healthy it would be the steal of the year
Jorgie walks the bases loaded. We are making Colon work this inning.
Don’t they have miracle shakes in the Dominican Republic?
wow, ok i thought colon was going to max out at 94 and live around 90-91, he’s living around 95 96 right now… ridiculously lucky signing for the sox
MATSUI-SAN !
Opposite field ground rule double for Matsui!
ground rule double for the gozilla… sweet
Nice hitting by Matsu!
What happened to Matsui? Gameday looks to be a bit slow this afternoon – still stuck on Jorge’s walk.
who cares about colon’s shoulder, matsui’s need looks fine and dandy.
CB were you at instructs or something?
Just because that’s what you hear deosn’t mean its necessarily true. The Mets may not have been brave enough to take the risk onhim
The most gorgeous ground rule double. Hit-Hit-Hideki!
Never mind – Go Matsui! GD Double!
Cano goes the other way!
4-0 Yanks!!
WHATDOYOUKNOW !
*knee
Anyone else notice as Tiger Woods’ hairline recedes with age, he looks more and more like Mariano Rivera?
Discuss amongst yourselves.
Matsui!
I feel like i’m watching NESN with michael kay and john flaherty…they just gush over how good colon looks and how he could be a steal, and how there’s “no one better” to have behind the plate than varitek. jeez, you guys could be a LITTLE hometown.
Yeah Robbie! 4-0.
“Colon was expected to be topping out in the high 80s, so the fact that he is free and easy throwing 95 mph is a big deal.If he could ever stay healthy it would be the steal of the year”
This is exactly right. If Colon is hitting 95 and throwing without pain he’s had a very successful spring. Enormously successful.
The rest of it will only be a matter of him getting back into pitching shape. That might not happen by the start of the season – but if his arm feels strong and he’s throwing well that’s the most important thing.
Again, he could fall apart at any moment, but at this point signing Colon to a no-risk minor league deal looks like a very shrewd deal.
He’ll need to build his stamina and get back to pitching but what other guy could the sox have gotten as an insurance policy with the potential upside of colon.
Colon is getting hit hard and people here keep talking about what a great/lucky find he was for the Red Sox. I’d hate to see the board if he had struck out the side.
2 run single for Cano. Matsui jogs in from second (gingerly).
They are replaying the game tonight at 7, right?
robbie cano!
lol when u have that much money and that hot swedish wife… who cares about receding hairlines… gotta give it to some of the pitchers tho… if smoltz never takes off his hat, you would never guess he’s completely balding
I wouldn’t trust Mets scouting.
What’s up, peeps?
I wouldn’t say Colon’s looking too good on this particular day, huh?
“he’s living around 95 96 right now… ridiculously lucky signing for the sox”
Talk to me when Colon throws three starts in row 100 pitches per start and he’s looking good. He looked good for two starts in April last year then was horrible the rest of the year. He’s only pitched about 160 IP’s combined the past two years. I doubt he’ll be a major factor for the Sox this year.
G. Love – I was thinking the same exact thing this morning!!! He needs to leave the cap on – he looks so different without it!
now kay is gushing over terry francona. oh terry you’re so wonderful.
This doesn’t look like the Betemit I know!
Mike R.,
To be fair Colon WAS hitting 94 and had 2 men out.
Colon at 95 or Colon at 90, it doesn’t matter to the NYY’s. As Pedro once said, the Yankees are Colons daddy.
lol calm down ray, i’m not cheering for colon… I was just really surprised; really didn’t think he still had it in him, that’s all.
But isn’t Pete a Red Sox fan?
I kid, I kid.
While we all know this is a spring game and means nothing, it WOULD be nice to throw a whuppin on the girls from Boston…
“Colon is getting hit hard and people here keep talking about what a great/lucky find he was for the Red Sox. I’d hate to see the board if he had struck out the side.”
Agreed
gotta love how he lasts only 2/3 inning. this lineup is pwning him
Is Michael Kay a Red Sox fan now? He’s kissing Francona’s a$$.
Some of you guys are too married to the radar gun.
The guy is getting hammered in the first inning.
If this is a “steal” signing, good luck.
With his conditioning issues, he probably can’t throw 60 pitches in an outing.
Its more than just throwing hard. Its why they call it “pitching” and not “throwing”.
The Anaheim Angels are one of the best evaluators of pitching in baseball. If they thought he had anything left, they would have done a deal with him. Especially, with Lackey’s physical problems.
He’s emptying the tank in the first inning as if he is a relief pitcher. Hard for me to see how this was such a great signing.
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he threw good but the Yankee lineup was too patient and worked him. Not a bad signing right now he reminds me of Jaret Wrightbut who knows
Somebody sounds a little jealous of Tiger. Who cares about his hairline? He’s dominating the sport like no other.
Mel – I understand that. I’m just surprised that so many would have so much praise for the signing when, other than his stuff, he is performing poorly.
quite an at bat from betemit… you must have enjoyed that brandon
so far, this has been fun
I think he got pulled because of pitch count, unless they didn’t want to stretch him out anymore in the first inning.
I hope they sign him, though.
Colon is fat with a bum shoulder. I think he’s finished personally. But what do I know?
oh I enjoyed it and I hope Jennifer did too
Thank you SJ. Let’s see if the message comes across with the voice of reason saying it.
lol at least someone has conn beating drake… unlike Seth Davis from CBS…
GO huskies
Can we just bunt for an out and get Pettitte back out there.. I dont want his elbow locking up because Colon can’t throw a strike
Colon has nothing. No stamina. Once it gets hot, if he gives you 3-4 innings, you’ll be lucky. By that time he’ll be throwing 89-91. He’s toast.
Taveras looks plump. In related news, Beckett looks lighter.
Pete, I think Tito was grumpy in the pregame because he had a feeling something like this would happen.
if bartolo is half the pitcher he used to be, can we call him semi-colon?
What a fun 1st inning!
Can we do it again for real during the regular season?
Hitting 95 is nice, but farnworth throws 100. How does it usually work out for him?
Colon may pan out, but I doubt it. Having a good march and a good april is a lot different.
“Colon at 95″
At 95 without any ability to command the ball. Given that EVERY other team passed on Colon, and that he actually worked out in front of other teams, AND that he took a minor league deal, I have to assume that he was actually looking terrible until a month ago. The YES gun is fast, so I figure it’s more like 92-93. Still, that’s WAY better than multiple reports had out of the DR.
We’ll see how he turns out. I still figure him as a bust. I don’t think he’ll stay healthy, even if he does keep his velocity up there.
Saucy – or just Semi. Kind of looks like one. . .
“he threw good but the Yankee lineup was too patient and worked him. Not a bad signing right now he reminds me of Jaret Wrightbut who knows”
He threw good and yet was getting hammered? Imagine what would happen if he didn’t throw well.
Colon is on the DL by the end of April
Saucy! that is awesome!
i can’t even stand looking at youkilis.
nice play robbie
saucY – Hahaha, that made me chuckle.
Colon throws a straight fastball. Im not worried.
Colon = Yankees slump buster
I know it is not accurate. But watching GameDay is fun when the pitch count isn’t accurate. According to them, Andy has thrown 9 pitches, all strikes, to retire the first 6 batters.
Lori – that made me laugh out loud. Now people in the computer lab are staring at me…
If 4 runs in 2/3 of an inning is a “good” outing, I’d hate to see what a bad outing is from a starter.
You guys were ready to retire Mike Mussina a few weeks ago and he pitched better than Colon did today.
Colon didn’t even have to face Arod.
If the Red Sox need Bartolo Colon to give them more than 2 starts this year, they are in big trouble. He can’t pitch with any level of effectiveness anymore. I don’t care what the radar gun reads. Its about making quality pitches and getting outs. He’s a shoulder and 50 pounds away from having a chance to do that again.
“Just because that’s what you hear deosn’t mean its necessarily true. The Mets may not have been brave enough to take the risk onhim”
Colon’s lack of velocity was widely reported over the winter.
Here’s a link from ESPN deportes on how he was throwing:
http://espndeportes.espn.go.co.....type=story
It documents that he was throwing in the high 80′s from scouts at that game.
Look at it this way – in the off season the mets, houston, the white sox and pirates all seriously scouted colon. All of them have serious pitching concerns and lack depth. Houston and the pirates have terrible pitching.
Yet none of them even signed Colon to a major league deal?
That tells you all you need to know about how badly he was throwing.
He wound up accepting a minor league contract (1.2 million if he made the team) – that’s completely a no risk prospect for the Sox. In all liklihood he’d have taken a $1 million dollar guaranteed deal from any team for a year rather than a non-guaranteed major league deal.
When the sox signed him they expected him to start the season in the minors – again speaking to how he was throwing.
Also, coming back from shoulder injury do you think Colon’s first choice would have been to pitch in the AL East at Fenway Park? That’s part of why Mark Prior went to San Diego – to face NL west hitters and pitch in Petco.
Colon didn’t have many good options. Given the tremendous dearth of pitching in baseball it speaks volumes that no club offered him a major league deal.
u got love their label for youkilis in money ball fat thirdbaseman… he’s pretty much that now except ortiz and colon both look like they ate him for lunch
Andy how do you walk Jason Varitek
Michael Kay is now kissing Varitek’s feet.
Brandon – Alot of times a pitcher would rather give up a walk or a fat pitch than to show a hitter too much. During long at bats in ST you don’t want to show the guy all your pitches. it gives him an advantage during the year.
the amazin’ Ellbury hits that one DEEP ! DEEP ! into the glove of 2B Robi Cano
To be fair to Colon, the Yankees are a tough out. He had ‘em down to 2 outs. The Red Sox need to take a look at how he does against other teams. Although, there’s not much ST left for them. My guess is they pick him up because Schilling’s out.
Brandon – But did you see his speed. He ran from home to the dugout in 4.7 seconds. :O
Elsbury will struggle at the plate and shorty on seconds numbers will drop this year. No its not being a Yankee bias. O.k. it is. But i meant everything i said. Lets hope they trade Coco puffs before the slump starts. One thing noone can argue with is coco’s defense saved alot of runs for his pitchers.
Kevin Youcouldlickthis is one ugly dude
I hate this bitch a**s pitcher
Once again Jeter gets hits by a sox player.
I predict that we will be seeing a lot of Bartolo Colon this year. He should be put on the DL just in time for the Celebrity Fit Club auditions.
wow… wtf… tavarez hit jeter square on the elbow…
Wheres Duncan for the retalitation!!!
Pettite better drill Ortiz!!
And that is how you answer getting hit by a pitch
o man… did abreu hit that pitch…
LOL! Abreu avenges Jeter. Holy crap, that was far!
THAT is payback. Boom.
take that Julian !
Did anyone else just see Pavano in the dugout high-fiving Abreu. Get out of here, Pavano.
Youkilis is my starting first basemen for the All Ugly All Stars. Randy Johnson and AJ Burnett are my one and two pitchers.
Did Varitek cover his head on the ricochet?
Nice retalitation, Bobby!
MASSIVE ABREU HOMER!!!!!
El Comaduce!
or w/e it is that John Sterling calls him.
best revenge for a HBP… storming the mound? nope! next guy hits a homer!
Go Bobby! I hope we do that every time someone gets hit.
lol it would be hilarious if the retalition comes from petitte or someone… giambi just doubled
The Puma hits a double.
should seriously think about saving some of this stuff for the season… what a smack down
Good to see Giambi run, not waddle.
No reason to throw at Sox hitters today. Just light them up no the scoreboard and re-visit it during the season.
Can’t afford to have anybody else suspended between now and the start of the season.
Tavarez looks like freddy crougar. Anyone?
“The Puma hits a double.”
This had me laughing out loud!
Still, if I’m Pettitte, I buzz Varitek. Don’t need plunk him.
I hope Matsui continues to do that with outside pitches, instead of rolling them over to 2B
Does anyone know how many pitchers the Sox brought? At this pace they might need to call for reinforcements.
I just got to the office after a long AM meeting so I was away from the computer for a while. I’m sure SOMEone made a similar post so I’m sorry if I repeat it, but:
” … use multi-syllabic words. That will confuse them.”
That was a gem, Pete. Too bad the Sox trolls won’t be able to understand it.
Sox should be nice & exhausted with that itinerary for starting the season. Yanks better get a good start to capitalize. but regardless of whatever happens at the beginning of the season, they need to have a good finish to it.
6-0, not 5-0
lol i didn’t think the suspension was that bad a thing at all… personally, I really want to see what Bret Gardner can do in limited duty… three games might be a short audition, but it would be much better than keeping Lane or Ensberg on the bench
The Sox are in very big trouble if they have to rely on Colon and Tavarez to pitch a lot of innings.
the parade continues…
prediction: the bench players, will have +++ plate appearances, today.
I would pull my starters out right now and put the bench in. Send a message that they arent worthy to play against our starters. Scoreboard.
The general consensus last year was that the sox had the best staff in the AL.
But they were also fortunate to get through the year without any injuries.
They don’t have much depth. Their minor league system is strong on position players but much weaker with pitchers. Big drop off after Buchholz.
Losing Schilling was a huge blow for them, especially with Buchholz innings cap. It wasn’t just losing Schilling but when they lost him. By the time his shoulder problems became known it was too late to upgrade their staff.
They desperately need another arm – but at this stage in the year that is just not easy to find.
Wakefield and Taverez are big question marks.
The yankee pitching depth will be an enormous relative advantage this year compared to what the sox are going to have to paste together to stabilize the back of their rotation.
It’s “el comedulce”
And what a beautiful swing that was.
The offense is TOASTING these scrubs
“three games might be a short audition, but it would be much better than keeping Lane or Ensberg on the bench”
yeah, who’d want a former all-star on the bench? I mean, a quality right-handed bat to balance the lineup against tough lefties…screw that, I want a pinch runner that’ll get into a game twice a week!
Id rather go with a 23 man squad for the first 3 games then call up Gardner. 3 games arent enought waste an option.
The Sox pitchers are throwing batting practice today.:)
wow that was ball 4 , but I understand
I still say that Dustin Pedroia is the Little-Bit-O-Luck lottery guy minus the horn rimmed glasses.
Shouldn’t that be 6-0? (It was 4-0, and Jeter was on 1st)
nice of the sox to drive all the way up from ft myers to throw batting practice for us
“The yankee pitching depth will be an enormous relative advantage this year compared to what the sox are going to have to paste together to stabilize the back of their rotation.”
And yet I was just reading a newspaper article the other day about how the Yankee pitching depth was good, but just not quite as good as what the Sox had. I mean…The Yankees just have a potential ace starting the year in the bullpen, a couple swing-men, and another guy with #2 starter upside starting in AAA.
Something tells me that Tavares won’t be hitting too many Yankee batters, they make you pay. Manager SHOULD put a stop to that. Even if it’s not intentional, don’t go inside if you don’t have your stuff.
7-0 Yankees after 2.
It took an hour to play 2 innings!!
The Yanks should save these runs for the regular season!
Pettitte looks good. Glad to see that coming off his missed start.
Can someone tell the Yankees that this is just a spring training game. Anyone think they came to this game to trying to send a message?
My guess on what Boston can expect from Colon this year is basically the same as when they signed David Wells:
He’ll show flashes of his old brilliance but not be consistent about it. Maybe he’ll throw well for a few innings at a time, maybe even a few games at a time. But he’ll be awful in as many games as he’s good in, the rest of the time he’ll be mediocre, and he’ll miss a lot of games because he’ll have various problems a rising from being in terrible shape.
no doubt Curt Schilling will write another blog how Colon actually has great stuff and will be of great help to the sox.
GTFO!!!
It was nice to see Matsui and Cano go the other way.
Does anyone have a pitch count on Tavarez?
no hitter gone COME ON ANDY!
are we slowing down the website or is it my computer? it took 10mins to reload this webpage…
am I the only one who thinks Damon lagged to that ball
Is anyone watching the game? Did Tavarez hit the Captain on purpose? If so, suspension?
As far as making a statement, I’m not sure. The vets are the ones making it happen. My guess is that they’re just trying ot get good at bats
Damon really troubled by the sun out there
I hate when people equate winning in spite of X with X being a good idea.
Like…”The Sox won with Lugo at SS, so having Lugo at SS was a good move for the Sox,” for example.
Hey all, just back from the prade. Did every kid in the NYC area cut school, and drink? Geez. It was pretty fun. Only got to see 2 bag pipe bands.
Glad to see our Yankees kickng butt and taking names. Hope Jeet is okay.
Darnit Freddie Kruger!!
“And yet I was just reading a newspaper article the other day about how the Yankee pitching depth was good, but just not quite as good as what the Sox had.”
I agree. There’s a big difference between depth of pitching in the starting staff on the 25 man roster and organizational depth.
The Sox got lucky last year that they had no major injuries to a staff that had two 40 year old pitchers in it.
Now Schilling is down. Wakefield looked like he started to deteriorate last year.
And also – Okajima had a dead arm at the end of the year. He rebounded in the playoffs but it’ll be interesting to see how he pitches this year off that large workload he had last year.
They don’t have much depth in the pen either. If Okajima takes a step back they’ll have trouble getting to papelbon. Timlin is another year older, Declaramen, Synder, etc. aren’t very good.
no tavarez lost command. it wasn’t intentional… he pretty much couldn’t find the strike zone for the entire second inning…
am I the only one who thinks Damon lagged to that ball
He’s a red sox in a Yankee uniform. Come on Brandon! If anyone you should know this.
The Biggest Loser – Baseball Edition
Bartolo Colon
Sidney Ponson
David Wells
Curt Schilling
“am I the only one who thinks Damon lagged to that ball”
I think he just had no idea where it was. He wasn’t lazy…he had no idea where the ball was.
Yep…Jeter’s got no range to his left.
who said jete was losing a step? that was some range right there, let’s see lugo make that play
Anyone still have doubts over Jeter’s range?
Yep…Jeter’s got no range to his left.
I dont think he makes that play last year.
Hopefully (from a NY point of view) Buckholz and Lester get over worked this year because the team won’t get the innings they needed from Colon & Schilling. If they have good years this year, fine. NY will most likely be equal to the task this year. If the workload takes its toll on Laptop’s & Lester’s arms and they develop problems in ’09 or ’10 that’s good for NY, because NY will have the three young guns well prepared & just hitting their stride.
For Boston, it’s critical to have a good run this year because NY will have a clear advantage soon. And w/o Schilling (and Santana never arriving, and Colon being a shell of his old self) Boston may not have enough of a rotation right now.
“I agree. There’s a big difference between depth of pitching in the starting staff on the 25 man roster and organizational depth.”
But the article was saying that their organizational depth was good. That “oh, they lost Schilling and Beckett, but look at what they can throw at you! A Legit Japanese Ace! A Crafty Vet! Promising youth! Former Cy Young Winner! The Yanks would be screwed if they lost Wang and Moose!”
Nothing about how Lester’s a 5 inning pitcher, Colon’s not actually useful, etc.
Andy brushed back PAPI
lol there goes the retribution pitch right there
For the folks actually watching the game, is Pettitte actually struggling? trying new things? Can you tell?
I knew it. Andy walked the midget to practice the his pick-off move.
I love Andy’s pick-off.
I’ve been saying it for a while now, respect Jeter’s gangster.
Finally someone moved fatty off the plate.
How many pitches will Andy throw today? Hes on 55 already.
“I dont think he makes that play last year.”
I agree.
Andy still has the best pickoff move around.
YES!!Pettite tried to hit Ortiz!!He’s reading my posts. Now if he can only go throught with it.
Love that up and in to Ortiz
Looks like Paps been teaching Papi the river dance.
Dandy Andy does it again!
“For the folks actually watching the game, is Pettitte actually struggling? trying new things? Can you tell?”
He’s getting behind guys every now and again, but he’s not really struggling. I’m sure he’ll be miffed about some of these walks, but the “double” should’ve been a fly out to LF.
he’s fine, maybe not in tune with his conditioning yet… he’s not doing too bad, as mentioned that pick off move was ridiculous… got pedroia so bad “the midget” should go home and cry…
otherwise, andy’s looking good, just need more conditioning
NICE!
I like the 2 Ks to Ortiz!
“Pettite tried to hit Ortiz!!”
No, he came inside to open up the outside of the plate.
I think if he was trying to hit him, he would have.
ALl our pitchers have to throw inside more. These big lefties love the ball over the plate.
Man Papi must have a 6 inch vertical
Jeter made a concerted effort in the winter to work on his range because his mama (and at least 2 honeys) went to him and told him that a bunch of nobodies at the LoHud Yankees blog were talking smack about his range.
Did Andy really just throw inside to Ortiz?
yes he did Mike, and we love it !!!
Damon looking POOR today. Is that 3 K’s?
A pitch between Posada’s wickets is a wild pitch?
is it just me, or does damon seemed to be struggling with hitting?
Damon, why did you even bother to show up today?
“told him that a bunch of nobodies at the LoHud Yankees blog were talking smack about his range.”
I wonder if they also told him that scouts, analysts and baseball executives were saying the same things…
Either way, if Jeter manages to get to more balls than he did in 07, that’s a huge boon to the Yanks.
2 K’s.
whozat-No, he came inside to open up the outside of the plate.
I think if he was trying to hit him, he would have.
You must have not gotten the memo. Girardi crew is the baseball version of the Bad Boys this year. In my mind he was sending a message. Good thing for them Duncan is sitting this one out.
lol, i wouldnt say a bunch of nobodies… I mean how about that “Statistical analysis” paper from University of Pennsylvania that said he was the worst defensive shortstop in the majors
UGH – the bobblehead hits a homer
Uhh, that was a joke, guys. If it were real, at least 4 honeys would’ve tattled.
good thing there’re two weeks left on ST… I don’t really think that Andy will make it through 6 innings… but for the first 60 pitches today he was pretty damn good.
C’mon Andy! Don’t let these dirtbags have their way.
Heath Phillips putting the nail in his own coffin.
why do we have a AA pitcher in there?
Andy pitched good today really 1 ER if not for Damon’s OF goof
Andy’s had a very good spring training. With all the controversy his off season conditioning got thrown off.
Before camp started he admitted to being behind where he wanted to be and the yankees thought he’d be behind the other pitchers in camp.
He’s looked particularly good given that. He’s still building his endurance but his stuff has been great.
I’m thinking in games Shelley doesn’t start in this season, we should keep him locked in a box like the Gimp in Pulp Fiction until we need him.
Thoughts?
You guys realize these games don’t count? Let’s get everybody out of this game without any injuries and incidents and that’s good enough for today.
The one area of the pitching staff I really hope Eiland and Girardi address is the half inning after the Yankees score runs.
For the last 3 years they have been unable to have the shutdown half inning after they score. For some pitchers (Mussina) it seems they simply can’t do it. For others, they try to be too fine, walk too many batters, and it leads to big innings.
Its why they had to burn so many pitchers per game last year. Some nights, they needed 4 guys to finish the last two innings of games. That is unacceptble.
To me, that’s a mindset issue and it has to be a point of emphasis with the pitching staff this season.
The Dynasty Teams were great at it. The last 3 Yankee teams were awful at putting up the shutdown inning.
Even though its an exhibition game, we are seeing this crop up again today. Hopefully, this is something Eiland and Girardi prioritize with the pitching staff this season.
crazy day here at legends. A lot of andy’s pitches looked up and Heath ain’t making much of a case for himself. The gaggle of bostonian college girls while quite attractive are fairly chatty and annoying. I was yelling quite loud and obnoxiouly to drown out the sox fans.
CB …(1) The Sox had quite a few injuries to their starting pitchers last year; Beckett, Schilling and Wakefield all were on the DL (Schilling for 7 weeks). They were not “injury-free.”
(2) The pitch to Papi was more “at him” than the pitch that hit Jeter. Jeter dove into a pitch at his hands; Ortiz got out of the way of a pitch at his chest.
(3) Colon will probably stink, but he will NEVER help the Sox unless he reacquires most of his velocity. He’s not going to morph into Greg Maddux. Therefore, I was pleasantly surprised. Those who say that his velocity doesn’t matter are wrong, but he certainly must locate MUCH better to be of any value. It was only his second ST appearance, and only one ball (Cano’s) was well hit.
(4) Jerry Remy was asked earlier today (by the NY press)to comment on Hank S. He declined, but said something interesting on NESN. To paraphrase, Remy said that George was a live wire, but limited his comments to his own team and players, who he would regularly rip. On the other hand, Remy said, Hank feels free to comment on other teams and players. Remy left it there, but the inference was that Hank is visiting where he doesn’t belong
That’s three well hit balls by lefties off of Phillips. I think Traber just got closer to a bullpen slot. He’s pitching later today, no?
Who is this Phillips guy? he stinks!!!
They have a AA pitcher in the game because the game doesn’t count. It ain’t that complicated.
I was wondering where Brian was…
thanks for setting us straight , brian sox fan.
giambi looks like a monster. Just huge.
“Beckett”
He missed what? 2, 3 starts?
Compared to the Yankee pitching situation, the Sox were sitting pretty.
Yes Brian. Thanks so much for the Red Sox excuses. It’s time to hear all about their pitching depth this year
SJ, i know they don’t count…we’re just having some fun…
Brian,
Jeter did NOT dive. He reacted late and failed to get out of the way, but he was straight up and spun when he got hit. He’s not interested in getting on base by HBP in ST at the risk of an injury to his wrist.
Iv been one against resigning Abreu after the year. But if he has swings like hes had today throughout the season. I would ink him for no more than 2 years. He will probably get more elsewhere. Thoughts?
“giambi looks like a monster. Just huge.”
He looks less bulky than last season on the TV, though.
lol jay, nice job at legends… keep on representing man…
it’s quite a chilly day here up north… must be real nice in florida
I didn’t mean to seem critical of Andy’s pitching, just to say that he will probably be fine by the start of the season; as he was sensational throughout the first couple innings anyways…
Tavarez a$$ kissing time with Michael Kay. Has he said anything nice about a Yankee today?
G Love
Funny
But Goonies more appropriate “Hey You guys……!!!”
sj-You guys realize these games don’t count?
Its called being a Yankeeholic. Cant help it.
The Curse of Senator Mitchell continues.
Since he released his Yankees report:
Schilling out for the season
Beckett injures back
Patriots choke
Strong spring for Pettitte.
Keep up the good work, Senator Mitchell!
Hey guys!!
Its close to 3 in the morning in this side of the world.
Real hard to get baseball on tv here so thanks for the updates!!
Yankess all the way!! This will be our year!!
Traber’s spot was pretty much assured when they put him on the 40 man roster, Heath Phillips is not in the mix for the job. He will be in AAA.
Brian, comparing the Jeter and Ortiz HBP is more nonsensical babbling by you.
Julian Tavarez has a reputation for hitting guys after he gets touched up. Andy Pettitte has no such rep.
I have no idea if Tavarez was throwing at Jeter today or just didn’t have any command. I do know Andy Pettitte isn’t throwing at David Ortiz in an exhibition game.
Jeter dives into pitches and Ortiz stands practically on top of home plate, wearing armor. So, what’s your point? You have to pitch Ortiz inside. If he is sitting on the plate, those pitches are going to hit him.
Your fascination with Hank Steinbrenner is comical. Didn’t one of your owners call the Yankees the “Evil Empire” a while back? Is that not talking about another ballclub? Or, are the rules different when a Red Sox owner talks about the Yankees?
Your Pro-Red Sox slant on everything wouldn’t be so bad if you weren’t trying to sound neutral.
“Curse of Senator Mitchell”
What is kay saying about Tavares?
“He looks less bulky than last season on the TV, though.”
Agreed. The guy looks pretty good this season. He looks strong. Hopefully he’ll stay healthy this season.
“But if he has swings like hes had today throughout the season. I would ink him for no more than 2 years. He will probably get more elsewhere. Thoughts?”
If he has a good year, I’d offer him a year with an option, and go as far as two years plus a third year team option with a sizeable buyout.
He’d probably get more elsewhere, but maybe he likes playing in NY, blending into a team of allstars enough to take it. I’d want to have some good trade options lined up, though. If he has a bad year or wants too many years, I’d rather trade some minor league pitching depth for a 30-ish RH RFer with two, three years on his deal.
this game is long. Jorge isn’t hitting well from my view. Amazing how many people are here. Scalpers were asking for $150 per ticket today and people were paying it. Btw plz don’t tell my wife the college chicks are cute.
“(1) The Sox had quite a few injuries to their starting pitchers last year; Beckett, Schilling and Wakefield all were on the DL (Schilling for 7 weeks). They were not “injury-free.â€
The red sox last year got 85 starts out of Beckett, Schilling and Wakfield. How many do you expect?
They got 55 starts out of two pitchers who are older than 40.
Yes, I know they had some injury trouble and schilling missed some time but my main point was that they didn’t have any devastating injuries to either their starting staff or pen.
Compare what happened to the sox last year with the yankees.
This year is entirely different because Schilling isn’t just out with a sore shoulder – he’s likely out for the year.
Totally different story than last year. Schilling had a much better year last year than Matsuzka and he was the sox second best pitcher in the play offs.
And the larger point still stands – the sox don’t have great organizational depth in their pitching. They have quality up front but its thin.
Jay – Mrs. Destro called and she is not pleased.
jay,
Ask the college girls what they think about Papelbon. Then ask them what they think about Elsbury.
whozat-agreed on Abreu. Who would you go for out there as the replacement? Or do you put Duncan out there instead? He showed off a very good arm in yesterdays game.
So this is what the Yankees would look like without Arod…
I have to say, love ‘em or hate ‘em Arod adds plenty of excitement to this team..
Me personally, I am forever grateful to have Arod back.. even if he makes me want to strangle him from time to time.
Only Grapefruits………but Hat’s off to Abreu for not taking the 12mm resigning for granted. Nice Spring Bra!
Now hopefully that continues in the chilly April/May months that he dislikes.
The BigV likes what he sees…….
Game day sucks today.
Glad Traber will probably make the team..
I thought he’d be a dark horse when they signed him.
giambi playing a decent first base. When a ball went over his head it was funny to see him leap. Girls asked me to open their beer bottle. Wife doesn’t like girls. Life aint perfect
Jay Destro-As long as your not calling them by numbers and changing your name. Your safe. Oh and if they tell you they are going into the music business. Walk away.
SJ – get off your soap bok and try to understand what you read.
My point re: the Jeter HBP and the pitch to Ortiz is that the pitch to Jeter was easier to get out of the way of, but that he dives into the plate as a matter of course, therefore he gets hit by pitches that most people avoid. The pitch to Ortiz was at his body, and Ortiz still managed to avoid it.
To conclude: Jeter get hit a lot because he does a lousy job of getting out of the way. Ortiz doesn’t get hit a lot because he does a good job of getting out of the way.
I’ll break that down more for you if you need it.
How bad were Albaladejo’s pitches to Ortiz?
Talking about Abreu. Nice heads up play,forcing out the runner on second.Hes having a very good day.
Brian’s the last person in the world who should talk about soap “bok’s”. Have we officially decided that he’s a troll who should be ignored yet?
What’s a “soap bok”?
“Who would you go for out there as the replacement? Or do you put Duncan out there instead? He showed off a very good arm in yesterdays game.”
I don’t know who I go for. I don’t think Duncan’s a complete enough hitter, or a good enough defender to be a league average RFer, so that’s not a solution. If he has a good season this year as a platoon guy, maybe that opens up options to acquiring a lefty RFer instead of looking harder for a RFer.
Put it this way…there are NO free agent RFers that are interesting next year, except Bobby on a short-enough deal. So, it’s a trade. And you don’t know who’ll be available until you see which teams have had young guys step up and push vets, or who’s upgraded at RF and is pushing a useful guy into a backup situation…
Can’t figure it out until next December, really
nasty slider or sinker w/e that was
CB – They also had to substitute Tavares for Lester for most of last year.
But you’re not wrong. They had injuries to the starters last year, but not at a crippling rate. But, as a frame of reference, in 2004 they were injury free in the starting rotation (or was it 2003? one of those years).
JAY- Stop hitting on red sox fans!!
Brian – I didn’t see you defend the point about the Red Sox complaining about Hank S. talikng about other teams while their owner was the first person to be recorded referring to the Yankees as “The Evil Empire”. Any thoughts?
Jane – “soap bok” = soap box. Sorry.
Will there be a fight at the bikeracks after school?
Thank goodness, the Rays aren’t playing VT. Someone might get hurt.
Clare, Brian’s just here for “a thoughtful discussion about baseball”. As long as he can take it as well as give it, no big deal right? lol.
“Ortiz doesn’t get hit a lot because he does a good job of getting out of the way.”
Oh, yeah…he’s real agile at the plate.
Ortiz doesn’t get hit because pitchers are afraid to come inside on him. Part of that is because if you miss inside to a big lefty…it’s leaving the park. Part of that is because putting someone on in front of Manny is just stupid.
Jeter hangs over the plate just like Youk does. They both get hit a lot for that exact reason.
Jane – “soap bok†= soap box. Sorry.
O.k. What does the term soap box mean?
of course he doesn’t have a rebuttal
in terms of ortiz and his stance… it must scare Red Sox Nation that NYY might get ortiz out of his comfort zone this year, eh?
That was sarcastic, Brian. Sorry Pete, I had to.
big George is in the house. Also kay’s massive cranium is providing shade to us fans. Saw hank in the box with his dad before.
“CB – They also had to substitute Tavares for Lester for most of last year.”
They weren’t planning on Lester being in the rotation, though.
I could go for a bok’s of Lucky Charms
SoS,
It means giving a speech or a lecture about something you feel strongly about. The audience is not usually thrilled with the subject matter.
“O.k. What does the term soap box mean?”
“getting up on one’s soap box” basically means you’re lecturing everyone.
well albaladejo didn’t do too bad against ortiz…
that’s it for me guys… back to class. enjoy the day
Brian (Socks Fan) -
The delusional Socks slants make for comic relief. I suspect that SJ 44′s sides are splitting as are others. Be advised there’s a vast difference between an excuse and a reason.
Bok choy’s good with oyster sauce.
Jane – to be on one’s “soap box” means to be preaching to a crowd or group (from on top of the soap box), much like a pastor at a pulpit.
So someone “on his soap box” isn’t doing a lot of listening.
If Bobby Abreu has the same kind of year he has had the past two seasons, I re-sign him and not think anything of it.
Two years, with an option, and I bet he takes the deal.
The guy is the perfect #3 hitter in this order.
Its pretty tough to find a guy who goes 120/110 (Runs/RBI) every year. The Red Sox spent 70 million thinking they could get that out of JD Drew.
Guys who play everyday and put up the numbers Abreu puts up are hard to find.
The kids in AA this year aren’t going to be ready for next season and Shelley Duncan is not an everyday player.
If Bobby has another big year, I think Cash has to re-sign him.
generation trey. Don’t like the nickname?
vote for a different, nickname. No registration, required.
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Melky needs to take more than one pitch. That’s two at bats in a row. Take the first pitch.
You would stand on an overturned soapbox and preach to all the heathens in the crowds. REPENT THE END IS NEAR kind of stuff
Nick – I don’t follow you. An “excuse” or a “reason” regarding what?
“They also had to substitute Tavares for Lester for most of last year.”
True – but they were prepared to not have Lester for the year. They knew well before the 2006 season ended that he wasn’t going to be pitching for them in 2007.
That allowed them to adjust accordingly and I’m sure that was part of the reason they were so aggressive in going after Dice-K.
With Schilling this year its very different because of the timing. Season ending injuries to pitchers after the Winter transaction period are over can’t be made up for very easily. Once the big moves of the winter are over you’re left sorting through the left overs (like Colon) or banking on internal options (like Buchholz).
Its not reasonable to expect 31 starts out of Wakefield this year. I don’t think you can just pencil in any 40 year old + pitcher for that kind of workload. If you get it hey that’s a great plus – but that’s a bonus not a reasonable way to plan out a rotation.
Depth is an issue because of how late the Sox found out about Schilling’s injury and the lack of major league ready arms after Buchholz. Masterson is still too far away and doesn’t have a third pitch. Bowden is far too raw.
What is everyone’s take on the Heavyweight Bok’sing Division?
“On the other hand, Remy said, Hank feels free to comment on other teams and players. Remy left it there, but the inference was that Hank is visiting where he doesn’t belong”
Brian, as usual your socks are showing. What did Mr. Remy say about boy wonder making comments about Mussina and Kevin Brown?
IDK how much more of these Kay stories I can take
Brian – Still no answer to the pot calling the kettle black in regards to the Sox and Hank?
Albaladejo has replaced Joba as the big kid on the mound.
Phil Hughes is also playing cricket in Australia. Here he is:
http://content-usa.cricinfo.co.....72364.html
did Johnny guzzle shots pregame I mean seriously he’s the only LF having problems today
Bad Day for damon.
Brian,
Hank was wrong, but Papelbon was double wrong.
It’s all good between Hank and Henry. Bored rich boys playing bored rich boy games.
LOL on Georgy’s mask being customed for his ears
I think at times its hard to appreciate just how good and how valuable a player Abreu is, especially in the yankees line up.
Last year, even with that horrendous start, Abreu had the 8th best OPS of any right fielder in baseball. In 2006 he had the 5th highest OPS among right fielders.
If he gets off to a better start and rebounds against lefties he’ll be back to a top 5 OPS guy this year.
You just don’t find those kind of players very easily. Jackson and Tabata aren’t going to be ready next year, IMO and Abreu on a two year deal will be the perfect bridge.
Your not going to replace him with anyone comparable in free agency and getting any comparable player in a trade will cost a fortune. They would have to trade Jackson or Tabata to get a comparable right fielder to Abreu.
hey, ray.
come August, The Red Sox may be more concerned about Toronto than they will be about New york….All the unexpected little things that went right for them last season, they really can’t depend upon again in 08….Bullpen comes to mind right away….Depth in pitching is their # 1 concern…..
Didn’t the Yankees sign some teenager from Australia?
My god, this game’s taking forever.
Are all the starters still in? Just tuned in
Apparently Brian only reacts to points he can easily defend.
This is addressed to Brian, the Red Sox fan.
You have to understand that you bring a bias for the Red Sox into a realm where there is a bias for the Yankees. It is very clear that Derek Jeter is a much more nimble and quick moving person than is David Ortiz. Both players tend to get hit often. Is there any way to actually determine who is better at avoiding fast moving, hard objects?
There is one thing that you cannot get away with here without harsh criticism, and that is going toe to toe with ad-hominem argument against our established and respected posters. So, while I fully respect your opinions and feelings regarding both the Red Sox and Yankees, and the MLB in general, I think it would be wise for you to abstain from such confrontations so that you can post here and have some good, even-minded conversation with fellow baseball fanatics. You wouldn’t be on a Yankees blog as a Sox fan if you didn’t love baseball.
What’s the obsession with the wires behind home plate? They’re even using the telestrator
Raymagnetic – I’m passing on what was said on NESN. Nothing more.I’m not trying to rechronicle who said the most stupid thing about which person in response to whatever was said beforehand during which time frame.
Make what you will of the Remy paraphrase. He did say that he didn’t want to get into it with Hank, which is why he had a “no comment” for the print media.
Italian men refer to the female sex organ as bokala
Wow Traber is nasty
BET !! and Traber keeps shining
Moss strikes out.
If damon cant catch the ball, then send him back to boston. I dont know but he looks very bad.
Groundout. End of inning. Good look from Traber. Inherited two runners in scoring position, and got out of the inning unscathed.
Groundout. End of inning. Good look from Traber. Inherited two runners in scoring position, and got out of the inning unscathed.
DEJO is out, Traber is In! Just a hunch
I’m liking Traber more and more. Gameday has his ERA as 0.00. How many innings has he pitched this spring so far?
Nothing not to like with Billy Traber. Cool as a cucumber. He continues to make his case.
enroll today in johnny damon’s school for the blind…
Nice play by Betemit. See? He really is looking like Alex this year.
mike r-Brian – Still no answer to the pot calling the kettle black in regards to the Sox and Hank?
I might not know what soap box means but i know this. Answer the question.
I got your back mr.president of anti.
signed
assistant president.
Corey – They aren’t really competing for the same spot.I do think that Patterson will take Albaladejo’s spot though.
mike r-Brian – Still no answer to the pot calling the kettle black in regards to the Sox and Hank?
I might not know what soap box means but i know this. Answer the question.
I got your back mr.president of anti.
signed
assistant president.
I can always count on you buddy.
Regards,
Your #1 Fan
hey traber was a very high draft pick…sometimes players take a long time to finally get it…especially pitchers. he is 28,in his prime, if its ever going to happen for him, its now…maybe we got him just in time.
Two best relief pitcher this spring besides Mo
Traber – they picked up off the scrap heap and cost them nothing.
Patterson – signed out of the independent league a year and a half ago.
Cashman deserves a lot of credit for being creative in acquiring options for the pen.
Myrtlebeach fan – you are, in a word, wrong. Jeter has NO capacity for getting out of the way of pitches. His weight is going totally forward, and he is incapable of recoiling from pitches that bore in. He can’t even get his hands out of the way, because he can’t spin and get them behind his body.
Ortiz’ stride is towards right-center field, enabling him to jump back from pitches.
This has NOTHING to do with who is more agile overall. It has to do with their HBP frequency, and the resaon why.
It’s not even a Yankee/Red Sox thing. Just open your eyes, and know what you’re seeing.
I think that was Traber’s 5th inning this spring.
Mike-
I know theyre not really competing….but hes surely solidifying his spot and Patterson/Ohlendorf are looking a little more reliable than Dejo
Damon should have came to this game dressed in red sox gear.
Traber in Patterson should be in. With Trabers outing today. Its his to lose. Lets go with the dark horse guys.
CB – by the way, you’re spot on regarding the Sox pitching depth (even with Beckett). At least as many question marks as the Yankees.
Morgan better make this roster
Sorry meant Traber and Patterson
Corey – I agree 100%
Can someone update the score? My computer here at work seems motivated to keep me away from every site that will update the score for me. Thanks
Brian (Red Sox fan) ;
Please give one good reason why this board is supposed to give a sh*t what’s said on NESN or by Jerry Remy. Are there people in New England that disinterested ?
So where’s Ken O’Singleton & David O’Coney?
“Please ignore any Red Sox trolls who decide to make comments. If you do respond, use multi-syllabic words. That will confuse them.”
8-4, bottom of the 6th, 2 outs.
Mel – thanks
motown,
8-4. Posada is up vs. wild thing(hensen).
Motown,- 8-4 the good guys are winning
Motown,
No problem.
I feel bad for Hansen, rushed through the system even though the Red Sox system was and continues to be loaded with talented arms.
Motown,
No problem.
I feel bad for Hansen, rushed through the system even though the Red Sox system was and continues to be loaded with talented arms.
Thanks guys.
Mike R. – I always refer to the Yanks as the “good guys.” Something my dad taught me. Makes me smile to see someone else do it.
Pedroia looks like a character from Labyrinth or Willow
Hey talking about new england for only a second. Did anyone watch the beginning of John Adams yesterday? Not bad. If i didnt sleep in history class maybe i would more informed about that time. Im using the series as a refresher coarse.
Who was Jeter hugging?
oh and all the regulars are out now…
“I feel bad for Hansen, rushed through the system even though the Red Sox system was and continues to be loaded with talented arms.”
The RS have a lot of depth in position players but they are certainly not “loaded with arms”.
man Gonzo can pick it
That was some slick fielding by Gonzo, given that Green basically hid the grounder from him.
traber punching is ticket to the bronx
A team never finishes a season with the identical pitching staff as Opening Day and for a multitude of reasons.
This is the reason why the Yankees having the depth they’ll have at AAA Scranton/ Wilkes-Barre will be so beneficial.
Motown – Very nice. It’s good to know I’m not alone in that. I sometimes get weird looks from non-fans when I say it.
Traber has to be what Cashman always refers to as lightning in a bottle. Many thanks to the Mets for drafting him and getting him mlb ready for us. Whens the last time we had a shut down lefty. Dont say last year in Meyers.
Mike – and the other team is always the “bad guys”, right?
SOS_ i thought the john adams show was excellent last night, especially tom wilkinson playing ben franklin
Sorry, dana, that was sarcasm. So much is being made of the Sox farm system, but they’ve done a poor job of developing Hansen. Unless he was a poor prospect in the first place, but I thought he was highly regarded.
Nice inning for Traber.
Alan – it’s a Yankee-related comment made on NESN. Some people might be interested.
And there are those multi-syllabic Luddites who resent the advent of internet-driven communications. People of that ilk would not be interested.
Motown – Of course. There are very few exceptions. Virginia Tech for example. V Tech would be the “Other guys”.
I would like to see Tabata and Jackson show a little more this spring. Tabata showed some power last spring but hasnt got going yet. Jackson, i just want to see all this talent that he possesis. So far Gardner has been the one im most impressed with.
“I feel bad for Hansen, rushed through the system even though the Red Sox system was and continues to be loaded with talented arms.”
Was it really? I mean, that was…06? When they pushed him up to the majors? I think they were reaching for arms that year.
Before that flyball, Matsui was 3 for 3.
Andy didn’t feel comfortable.
Mike – good point.
“I would like to see Tabata and Jackson show a little more this spring. Tabata showed some power last spring but hasnt got going yet. Jackson, i just want to see all this talent that he possesis. So far Gardner has been the one im most impressed with.”
These are guys in ST coming up from A ball, basically. It’s just kind of unrealistic to expect them to come up and flash big power or whatever. I’m interested to see how they handle AA this year. That could be really cool.
I mean…Austin had Mr. Octover saying he’s the best athlete in camp. He clearly impressed on some front, no?
whozat,
Keep up. See my 3:46 post.
mel- did he say why? Elbow?
“luddite, ilk” i’m impressed!
“Andy didn’t feel comfortable.”
He doesn’t mean he felt physically uncomfortable. He felt like he wasn’t locked in with his pitches. That’s kind of to be expected. It’s been 10 days since his last outing. He’ll be fine.
“Keep up. See my 3:46 post. ”
Sorry, I was “doing work”. And by “doing work”, I mean “making tea and eating a cookie”.
Yes, just out of synch after missing a start.
he hit 99 mph twice in the spring
whozat,
As long as it was Bigelow Tea, you’re excused.
Mel – did they talk to Andy on YES? I’m tivoing the game, so just trying to figure out how long I should watch…
we get free bigelow tea at work. it’s great.
three times hit 99 mph 100 mph now
Nice quote from Goose in the NY Times…..
“The Yankees are still the greatest franchise in sports, period,” the Goose said. “The Red Sox win a couple and they lose their minds and think they’re No. 1. Nah. They’ve only got 24 more to go.”
Mowtown,
Kay reported it on the air in the bottom of the 7th.
saucY – Do your co-workers look half asleep most of the time?
4 x 99 mph
2 x 100 mph
so far
“three times hit 99 mph 100 mph now”
Who?
Sorry, that’s Motown. lol.
Brandon, Bruney now hitting triple digits.
Brandon – How does his control look?
Oh Bruney, but is he throwing strikes?
Who is this Traber guy and how did we end up with him. I heard he was a mets first-round pick and bounced around to a few teams? Why was he bouncing around? Injury?
6 99 mph fastballs
3 100 mph fastballs
this is the spring and Bruney is hitting that
god get some control pleeeeaase
If he can ever bottle his control, he’d be lights out…..
Unfortunately, a good inning by Bruney. I don’t mind if he makes the team as long as he leaves his sucky stuff behind.
NESN has Bruney at 95.
oh Bruney was locating better he hit one snag walking Ellsbury but then rebounded well to strike out Cash or Carter I think it was. His slider was at 93 mph he looked better.
Brian (Red Sox fan) ….
Please express yourself monosyllabically so you can be understood. Bostonese is not spoken here.
Brian you need a new gun on NESN there was no way that was 95 mph
Brian you need a new gun on NESN there was no way that was 95 mph
do not matter. If bruney have options, let him begin in Scranton.
Patterson, is the better fit.
Bruney at 99-100 since when? did eiland fix his mechanics. Is he that good or was gator that bad.
Russell,
Traber was the pitching jewel of the Mets farm system once upon a time.
He was traded to Cleveland in the trade for Roberto Alomar to the Mets.
He didn’t do well in Cleveland, had a lot of injury issues, I believe, and bounced around.
Yet, he’s always had very good numbers against Lefty Hitters.
The stats were there for all GM’s to see this guy had value as a lefty killer.
Cashman and the staff did a nice one getting him in here and getting him to accept the fact that he projects as a better reliever than starter, since he was only viewed as a starter for awhile.
Brian,
What was Colon hitting on NESN?
MikeEff _ “John Adams” was excellent. The Ben Franklin character might well dabble in words like “ilk.” But use of the word Luddite would be anachronistic.
Good show. You probably know that “John Adams” (Giammitti sp?) is the son of the late baseball commissioner.
when you answer that also tell me how much that LHP topped out on NESN so we can compare readings
Dennis, Bruney was hitting tripple digits when he first came to the Yankees in 2006. Last year his velocity dipped quite a bit.
dennis,
Bruney had heat when he got here. He might have eased off to get more control. That didn’t really work either, so maybe they’re going to let him throw it through the wall and hope if finds the plate. Today it did.
Anyone think Cano has a legitimate shot at the batting title this year?
Mel – up to 94, mostly 93. I believe his two-seamers (from the movement) were around 89 – 91.
dennis I’m thinking he was that bad, because Bruney looked real good in velocity that last inning, I don’t remember him doing it w/ ease like he did today.
Kaz Matsui out 2-3 weeks after surgery for an anal fissure.
I’m just stating the facts here people. I know you all want to be informed.
BTW anyone else read Carl Pavano’s Diary on RespectJetersGangster? Hysterical Stuff. I was laughing at work, again.
thats what I remember from last year 94-95 walking the ballpark like a crossing guard.
Kevin CT I’m about to read it after this game
I think we had him up to 95, so the guns are apart by about 1-2 mph.
I don’t think those radar gun readings are accurate on Bruney.
And with him its completely about control.
He got out of the inning but walked Ellsbury. To me that’s more significant than the guys he struck out.
It’s hard to know what to make of Bruney’s spring.
Girardi has really only used him late in games when all the major leaguers have been pulled.
Contrast that to the way he’s used Patterson in the middle of innings early in games. Ohlendorf has also gotten some early game appearances against the big league hitters.
At this point – Bruney striking out minor leaguers doesn’t say much.
Walking the only major league hitter he faced in the inning doesn’t help his case, however.
Brandon – Trabor was around 91; Pettite was mostly around 89.
I think the NESN gun is more accurate. The Yankee gun had Alan Embree at 94 after he was picked up by the Yankees. He had been getting lit up at 88 the week before with the Sox
I was talking about your LHP the guy that pitched in the 8th what did he top out on
We know that the YES gun is notoriously fast and make the adjustment in our heads, pea-brained as we may be. lol.
I think the NESN gun might be a bit slow and the YES gun is notoriously fast. The truth is probably somewhere in between.
Why did Jason break off after he passed the ball to Jeter on that run down? Did he just assume that Jeter would get him?
Brian-sox fan—Cute. and i’ll give you props for your etymological research, but i don’t recall franklin using that word last night. and no, i don’t know the family history of any of the actors on the show.
Well, that was fun. May have been meaningless, but it was still twice as nice getting the win over the Sox.
Early projections see Traber, Patterson, and Ensberg going north. Their jobs to lose.
Desti(NY):
Yup,
or
OK.
Hey, a bit of news here. Chad Jennings who blogs for the Scrnton paper got to Yanks camp today, checked in with a few guys, and says Bruney is saying he has an option left. Chad’s blog is really good if you haven’t visited it. Link:
http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.....fault.aspx
This actually makes sense. There is a rule that a team gets a 4th option on a player if they reach the majors by the age of 24. Bruney fits that.
CB as usual you make a very good point–i hadn’t even thought of that. walking the only major leaguer. food for ( girardi’s ) thought
MikeEff – I was suggesting that Franklin MIGHT use that word. Paul Giammatti (I think that’s right) has done a ton of good work, and his father was (briefly) MLB Commissioner. I believe it was in the 80s, and he died after only a few months in office. I also believe that he had been President of Yale (but that’s from my fading memory). Could be wrong …..
Mikeeff,
I liked Thomas Jefferson character. He seemed layed back but very respected. i.e. Jeter. Washington wasnt bad either.
mel,
Skip to my lu did you guys in yesterday for 22 straight. Dont get mad. My spurs are going into the playoff in a slump.When will their streak stop. Boston?
Does that mean that Colon was really throwing 91?
CAS – “Pedroia looks like a character from Labyrinth or Willow”
Now THAT was funny.
I had him pegged for a forest sprite in Tom Cruise’s flop, Legend.
“Why did Jason break off after he passed the ball to Jeter on that run down? Did he just assume that Jeter would get him?”
No…that’s what he’s supposed to do. The pitcher (or catcher?) goes over to cover 1B after the 1B runs the guy towards 2B.
Brian Sox Fan- do better research then because the word Luddite didn’t come into use until 1811. Franklin was long dead by then. know your stuff before you shoot your mouth off at me.
Can someone tell me how are Bruney, Ablakrlahejo, and Traber doing today?
Pedroia looks like Jim Carrey in the Grinch. Rat like reatures.
I always pegged Pedroia as more of a Fraggle. I think it’s the weird movement in his swing.
“Can someone tell me how are Bruney, Ablakrlahejo, and Traber doing today?”
Traber looked great, Alba looked solid but not tremendously amazing, and Bruney struck out a couple minor leaguers, but walked Ellsbury (the only MLB-caliber player) with two outs.
“I think it’s the weird movement in his swing.”
I don’t understand how he succeeds with his swing. It looks long and like he’s always swinging from his heels…how is he not super-strikeout-prone??
Like…it seems like the inside corner would be a place you could get him out over and over and over again.
whozat – Sometimes ugly works. Do you remember Clyde Drexler? He would always look down when he dribbled. I never understood how he could see the court.
Mike R,
Bill Cartrights freethrows. Batistas open stance. Oh wait he isnt in the league anymore.
Of course, as contrary to the Bruney option thing, he’s been up in 4 seasons. But 1 he was only down for 4 apps, might have been a rehab assignmnet which doesn’t count. Technicalities. But if he has another option, and it’s him saying so, that’s just more flexiblilty.
S.o.S.27
March 17th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Pedroia looks like Jim Carrey in the Grinch. Rat like reatures.
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I still think Pedroia is that Little Bit Of Luck lottery guy with horn rimmed glasses.
Yes, he is a member of the rodent family.
How the F did I miss this thread? I wondered why nobody was posting!
MikeEff – revisit what I said …. I said that if Franklin were to use the word “Luddite,” it would have been an anachronism (therefore, out of chronlogical order and inherently incorrect). I said the opposite of what you understood me to say.
My wife commandeered the computer from me, or I would have responded sooner.
Thank you, G Love