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	<title>Comments on: Wrapping it up from Dunedin</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick (#1)</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/20/wrapping-it-up-from-dunedin/comment-page-6/#comment-281650</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick (#1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;consider what the dodgers would have taken in a trade for eric gagne in 2001. certainly less than a matsui. but several ppl in the organization felt that he had closer stuff.
he saved 150+ games in the next 3 seasons.&quot;

Well if you could pick the next Eric Gagne then the Yankees should hire you. Also, not that I want to sound like anti-mussina, but in this case Gagne actually did do steroids.


&quot;apparently although the yanks cant fill thier bp now, they have cornered the market on potential bp help. &quot;

Pretty much, yeah.


&quot;by midseason, if nobody else has stepped up, i could see them moving giambi or matsui for a big pierce that allows joba to move to the rotation.&quot;

That was your original point, nothing about a package of prospects. 

Bottom line Y&#039;s guy, I think you underestimate the yankees pitching depth and overestimate the value of relievers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;consider what the dodgers would have taken in a trade for eric gagne in 2001. certainly less than a matsui. but several ppl in the organization felt that he had closer stuff.<br />
he saved 150+ games in the next 3 seasons.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well if you could pick the next Eric Gagne then the Yankees should hire you. Also, not that I want to sound like anti-mussina, but in this case Gagne actually did do steroids.</p>
<p>&#8220;apparently although the yanks cant fill thier bp now, they have cornered the market on potential bp help. &#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty much, yeah.</p>
<p>&#8220;by midseason, if nobody else has stepped up, i could see them moving giambi or matsui for a big pierce that allows joba to move to the rotation.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was your original point, nothing about a package of prospects. </p>
<p>Bottom line Y&#8217;s guy, I think you underestimate the yankees pitching depth and overestimate the value of relievers.</p>
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		<title>By: Y's Guy</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/20/wrapping-it-up-from-dunedin/comment-page-6/#comment-281609</link>
		<dc:creator>Y's Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If in July the Yankees need a reliever Iâ€™d be all for trading a package of prospects to get one, if its a fair price.&quot; 

exactly the point i initially made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If in July the Yankees need a reliever Iâ€™d be all for trading a package of prospects to get one, if its a fair price.&#8221; </p>
<p>exactly the point i initially made.</p>
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		<title>By: anti-mussina</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti-mussina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too bad he will never be able to swing that quick or powerful again without the use of roids. if he tries i bet he will injure his shoulder again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad he will never be able to swing that quick or powerful again without the use of roids. if he tries i bet he will injure his shoulder again.</p>
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		<title>By: Y's Guy</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/20/wrapping-it-up-from-dunedin/comment-page-6/#comment-281605</link>
		<dc:creator>Y's Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our relief prospects are superior to any prospects we could trade for and they will be ready at the end of this season.&quot;

apparently although the yanks cant fill thier bp now, they have cornered the market on potential bp help. 

consider what the dodgers would have taken in a trade for eric gagne in 2001.  certainly  less than a matsui.  but several ppl in the organization felt that he had closer stuff.
he saved 150+ games in the next 3 seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our relief prospects are superior to any prospects we could trade for and they will be ready at the end of this season.&#8221;</p>
<p>apparently although the yanks cant fill thier bp now, they have cornered the market on potential bp help. </p>
<p>consider what the dodgers would have taken in a trade for eric gagne in 2001.  certainly  less than a matsui.  but several ppl in the organization felt that he had closer stuff.<br />
he saved 150+ games in the next 3 seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;i really dislike anti-mussinaâ€™s attitude most of the time, but anybody who didnt think that pedâ€™s might have affected ensberg is hiding his head in the sand.&quot;

There&#039;s a considerable difference between saying he could have used PEDs and that his previous production was caused by PEDs and he will never attain that without PEDs.

I thought his production dropped off because he got hurt and he never regained his pre-injury swing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i really dislike anti-mussinaâ€™s attitude most of the time, but anybody who didnt think that pedâ€™s might have affected ensberg is hiding his head in the sand.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a considerable difference between saying he could have used PEDs and that his previous production was caused by PEDs and he will never attain that without PEDs.</p>
<p>I thought his production dropped off because he got hurt and he never regained his pre-injury swing.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick (#1)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick (#1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just to make it clear, I&#039;m not saying the Yankees don&#039;t need another reliever. It is very possible they might. All I&#039;m saying is that Matsui shouldn&#039;t be wasted on a reliever. 

If in July the Yankees need a reliever I&#039;d be all for trading a package of prospects to get one, if its a fair price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just to make it clear, I&#8217;m not saying the Yankees don&#8217;t need another reliever. It is very possible they might. All I&#8217;m saying is that Matsui shouldn&#8217;t be wasted on a reliever. </p>
<p>If in July the Yankees need a reliever I&#8217;d be all for trading a package of prospects to get one, if its a fair price.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick (#1)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick (#1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;s guy, 

1. Name a few young potential closers the Yankees could get for Matsui.

2. We have a shortage of quality BP arms in the present but you say we need a closer of the future. I say we have several prospects in our system already that can fill that role down the line. 

Trading Matsui for a guy that can be our closer tomorrow is near impossible because nobody would want Matsui for so much and packaging Matsui with more players for just a closer is too much for the Yankees to pay.

On the other hand if you want to trade for a relief prospect that can be our closer next year and on, I&#039;d say that is pointless. Our relief prospects are superior to any prospects we could trade for and they will be ready at the end of this season.

I could see Matsui getting traded but I don&#039;t see it happening for a reliever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;s guy, </p>
<p>1. Name a few young potential closers the Yankees could get for Matsui.</p>
<p>2. We have a shortage of quality BP arms in the present but you say we need a closer of the future. I say we have several prospects in our system already that can fill that role down the line. </p>
<p>Trading Matsui for a guy that can be our closer tomorrow is near impossible because nobody would want Matsui for so much and packaging Matsui with more players for just a closer is too much for the Yankees to pay.</p>
<p>On the other hand if you want to trade for a relief prospect that can be our closer next year and on, I&#8217;d say that is pointless. Our relief prospects are superior to any prospects we could trade for and they will be ready at the end of this season.</p>
<p>I could see Matsui getting traded but I don&#8217;t see it happening for a reliever.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/03/20/wrapping-it-up-from-dunedin/comment-page-5/#comment-281593</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;hmmm very confident of both you and patrick, but as for me, until someone actually shows up and can pitch the 8th inning, i keep looking.&quot;

well sure, if the Yankees get to mid-season and no has emerged, then yes, they may have to make a trade.

but right now, the bullpen seems like it will be ok. 

no one knows.  but your opinion that the Yankees will definitely need to trade for a reliever is no more or less valid than my opinion that they won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;hmmm very confident of both you and patrick, but as for me, until someone actually shows up and can pitch the 8th inning, i keep looking.&#8221;</p>
<p>well sure, if the Yankees get to mid-season and no has emerged, then yes, they may have to make a trade.</p>
<p>but right now, the bullpen seems like it will be ok. </p>
<p>no one knows.  but your opinion that the Yankees will definitely need to trade for a reliever is no more or less valid than my opinion that they won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Y's Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y's Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm very confident of both you and patrick, but as for me, until someone actually shows up and can pitch the 8th inning, i keep looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm very confident of both you and patrick, but as for me, until someone actually shows up and can pitch the 8th inning, i keep looking.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; live in a different worldm where when you have too much of one commodity (of/LH hitters) and are lacking in another (BP) you dont dismiss any possibility of trading your surplus to fix your shortage.&quot;

i live in the world where the yankees don&#039;t actually have a shortage of relievers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; live in a different worldm where when you have too much of one commodity (of/LH hitters) and are lacking in another (BP) you dont dismiss any possibility of trading your surplus to fix your shortage.&#8221;</p>
<p>i live in the world where the yankees don&#8217;t actually have a shortage of relievers.</p>
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