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Spring training Game 21: Rays at Yankees

March
21

YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Ensberg DH
Cano 2B
Moeller C
Cabrera CF

Pitching
Rasner
Rivera
Bruney
Ohlendorf
Veras

RAYS
Johnson 2B (yes, him)
Crawford LF
Pena 1B
Floyd DH
Longoria 3B
Hinske RF
Bartlett SS
Weber CF
Paul C

Pitching
Sonnanstine
Balfour
Dohmann
Howell

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66 Responses to “Spring training Game 21: Rays at Yankees”

  1. 56Bomber

    Moeller C

    I guess Joe doesn’t want to risk losing Posada or Molina.

  2. raymagnetic ™

    Yeah baby, blood and guts baseball in March is back.

    Is it wrong for me to hope that Johnson will be in the game when Mo pitches? I can definitely see a little brush back chin music coming his way. :twisted:

  3. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti)

    something tells me we’re doing something to someone today ^^ :lol:

  4. mike

    56bomber or just trying to see what moeller can do

  5. G. Love

    Does it mean Ensberg made the club if he’s in the lineup?

    Wasn’t there a deadline or something today that they had to guarantee him a spot?

  6. Wolf In Pinstripes

    Must suck being a pitcher with the name Balfour. Add one letter L and batters would be salivating to hit against you.

  7. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti)

    BLOOD AND GUTS BASEBALL !!! :twisted:

  8. murphydog

    Wolfie:

    Yeah, “Balfour” is tough for a pitcher. But how about Gene “Brabender?” I remember him from when I was much younger, looking at his baseball card and thinking, duh huh, that’s a funny name.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/brabege01.shtml

  9. Nick

    A decision must be made with Ensberg by tonight per agreement. It appears he’ll stay unless he plays horrible tonight. One of the scheduled pitchers along with Mo will make the team with the others going to AAA.

  10. saucY

    wait, i thought Ensburg signed a minor league contract. i thought that meant we get to keep him no matter what? or is this some ‘clause’ that cot’s doesn’t mention?

  11. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti)

    you gotta love Shelley

  12. Gitmo

    The name on a baseball card that made me giggle when I was a kid was Dick Pole. I don’t remember him playing, but I remember his baseball card. I’m pretty sure he was a pitcher.

  13. Brandon (Proud supporter of "Alex being Alex" ) (I slay the Anti)

    how about Gaylord Perry no offense but if his last name would have been Ferry ..let me just stop it’s just ironic :lol:

  14. whozat

    Ensberg has to be put on the 40-man by the end of today, or we lose him. That guarantees his money, but not a spot on the 25 man roster.

  15. whozat

    I think they’d be pretty silly not to put him on. He’s hit well enough to show that his shoulder’s ok, and he’s got a really good track record against MLB lefties, much MUCH longer and more significant than Shelley does.

  16. whozat

    Really, whozat? That’s very interesting.

    Thanks whozat. It’s nice being schizo, isn’t it? You’re never alone.

    I know!

  17. Max

    Gitmo :

    Guess what ? Dick Pole is the pitching coach for Dusty Baker with the Cincinnati Reds.

  18. uh huh

    not much to get out of this for the yankees. mo may be the only P headed north and still a bit early for the hitter to really get ready.

  19. saucY

    thanks whozat. i’m sure they’ll put someone on the 60day dl to make room…

  20. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    Anyone know if tonight’s game is on TV? Which I’ll probaby not watch because NCAA is distracting me too much. But that’s not the point.

  21. saucY

    brandon, something doesn’t look right in his legs in that picture… 8o

  22. whozat

    “i’m sure they’ll put someone on the 60day dl to make room…”

    Yeah, I think the idle and Sanchez are still on the 40-man right now, and they’re both slated to start the year on the 60-day.

  23. whozat

    “Anyone know if tonight’s game is on TV? ”

    it’s not. I don’t even think it’s on mlb.tv

  24. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    whozat, awesome. I don’t have to go and look fo the remote then :-D

  25. whozat

    “I guess Joe doesn’t want to risk losing Posada or Molina.”

    I figure it’s possible that Posada caught Wang earlier today. And Molina played yesterday, so that could explain it. And that, if Moeller is still in MLB camp, he DOES need to play from time to time.

  26. Fran

    This was in today’s NY Post about Ensberg. If the Yanks do release him Tampa Bay is interested in him.

    HELD FOR RANSOM
    YANKS FACE DILEMMA WITH ENSBERG
    By GEORGE A. KING III

    March 21, 2008 — DUNEDIN, Fla. - Are the Yankees better served by Cody Ransom’s ability to play shortstop if Derek Jeter goes down or having Morgan Ensberg to DH against lefties?

    That’s the dilemma facing the decision for the second and final utility infield spot on the 25-man roster. And since Ensberg can get out of his minor-league contract (worth $1.75 million if in the majors) by midnight tonight, the Yankees may be forced to make a decision sooner than they would like. Especially with Tampa Bay interested in Ensberg to keep third base warm for stud prospect Evan Longoria.

  27. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday )

    Brandon: Thanks for that picture!

  28. whozat

    “Are the Yankees better served by Cody Ransom’s ability to play shortstop if Derek Jeter goes down or having Morgan Ensberg to DH against lefties?”

    I can’t believe that’s even a question. Ransom can be sent to the minors and called up if they need him, or they can call up Gonzalez. So, it’s basically whatever Ransom has over Betemit on D at SS for ONE game vs having a guy who’s CRUSHED lefties for years at the MLB level to insert into the lineup every time they see a lefty starter.

    Seriously?

  29. whozat

    And, if they keep Ensberg and decide later that they’d like to trade him, I’m SURE they’ll find a taker. Either TB or SF or the Dodgers.

  30. whozat

    Or, frankly, the Phillies, once they realize that Pedro Feliz is kind of an awful, awful hitter.

  31. Jay

    Hopefully a good showing tonight by Rasner wins him the longman role over Karstens, who’s painful to watch.

  32. Fran

    whozat - I actually agree that I would keep Ensberg. He would have trade value down the road should the Yanks decide to go that route.
    Ransom has had a good spring but as a back-up to Derek and/or Alex, you very rarely play. I don’t think I would waste a spot on him.

  33. CB

    We’ve heard a lot from ARod on how good a hitting coach Kevin Long is on several occasions.

    Great quote from Ensberg today on how much Long has helped him from Ken Rosenthal:

    Yankees hitting coach Kevin Long, who helped revitalize Alex Rodriguez last season, also is making a difference for Ensberg,

    “It’s shocking,” Ensberg says. “Everything he does is so simple. He gets rid of all of your excess motions, gets you down to a good foundation.

    “I used to be a guy with eight different stances and eight different hand positions. Now I’m down to one. And it took only one session, one 15-minute deal in the batting cage.

    “This is the most consistent 3-4 weeks of an approach I’ve had in my life.”

    One of the ways Cash has changed this organization is not only focusing on acquiring talent but on developing it - both at the majors and the minors. Bowa, Long, Eiland, Nardi Contreras, etc.

    The yankees gave Long an enormous contract for a hitting coach - 3 year deal worth almost $1million dollars. Hitting coaches are almost universally kept on 1 yr deals.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7937722/Loretta-could-be-answer-to-Dodgers%27-problems-?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49

  34. sabernar

    Famous jazzman: Dick Hyman. I kid you not.

  35. whozat

    “Ransom has had a good spring”

    There’s also the fact that Ransom’s spring is just that…a good spring. It’s extremely unlikely to be an indicator that he’s all of a sudden a useful major league player. He’s 32 and has had years and years of mediocrity in the minors. This is not a guy who’s breaking out. Keep him at AAA as insurance…if he keeps up his hot hitting and there’s a need at the major league level…bring him up! Other than that…

  36. Ranting Guy

    Take a chance on Ensberg …

  37. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    Who’s watching UConn?

  38. Wolf In Pinstripes

    murph - geez, what a name. Poor guy. LOL

    Gitmo - we used to giggle about Pole’s when we were growing up and collecting cards too. Heck, I’m giggling right now recalling those days. :D

  39. Wolf In Pinstripes

    For the record, I’m an Ensberg guy. Ransom’s been good, but if it were my decision, it would come down to Morgan for me.

    I just wish we had a spot for Gardner as well. Better to have him playing evry day in AAA than to grow rust on the NY bench, though.

  40. Brian from PA

    Grant Balfour is pitching……maybe he should change his name to Grant Strikethree LOL AM I RIGHT?

    Yeah ok sorry.

  41. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti

    uconn stinks!

  42. Boston Dave

    Rebecca,

    im watching Uconn. you believe this?/?

  43. Boston Dave

    jennifer,

    dont tell Pete that!

  44. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    Yeah, uh, my backet’s just a little busted.

  45. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    I have no sympathy for UConn.

    GO ORANGEMEN!

  46. Fran

    I just saw UConn loose as well. Yesterday I was 15-1. Today, not so good!

  47. mel

    Brian,

    Stryktre would be more subtle. lol.

    I had no vested interest in that game, but I’m glad San Diego won (sorry UConn fans). They led the whole way and Uconn didn’t play with energy.

  48. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti

    I still have 5 of the final 8, and 3 of final 4, and both teams that are in the finals.

  49. kd

    I am very ashamed to admit this, but i am second to last place in my office pool. the ridicule is actually quite intense. i had gonzaga in the elite 8.

    an my cal bears didn’t even make the tourny

  50. Boston Dave

    22 out of 24 on my bracket. missed uconn and drake. oops.

  51. A-Point

    “CB:
    One of the ways Cash has changed this organization is not only focusing on acquiring talent but on developing it - both at the majors and the minors. Bowa, Long, Eiland, Nardi Contreras, etc.”

    Yet he let Bowa go and allowed Meacham in that role. So far he has done a terrible job. A-Rod was given poor directions from him twice already. Bowa wouldn’t have made those errors.

  52. A-Point

    Rebecca, remember, its now just the Orange. No more Orangemen. No more Orangewomen. Just Orange for all.

  53. Joe from Long Island

    If I were a betting man, I would bet that Cody Ransom gets sent to Scranton to be the starting 3B, and Ensberg, who, I think, has both a better ML resume and a contract that stipulates that he makes the roster or is released (I think…correct me if I’m wrong, but either way I think the end result is the same) makes the team. They need RH power, and Ensberg can provide it.

  54. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    A-Point: Like many Syracuse students, I prefer the Orangemen.

    (Our school takes political correctness to such an extreme that it makes you feel like you’re back in kindergarten!)

  55. Joe from Long Island

    I don’t think it was a matter of letting Bowa go. I think that it was that Joe G. had Meacham as his 3B coach at Florida, when the team overachieved, and wanted him. A manager should be able to name some of his coaching staff. After all, the manager is the one who’s neck is directly on the line. And Joe has had a pretty good seat to see Meacham’s work. Us fans can only imagine what thoughts he has about this.

  56. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti

    I think /hope Morgan is put on the 40 man. I believe he will be very useful for the team, and if not we could always trade him.

  57. whozat

    “I don’t think it was a matter of letting Bowa go.”

    Actually, it was a matter of Bowa wanting to work for Torre.

    What’s Cash to do? Send thugs to lean on Bowa’s wife or something?

  58. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti

    While Bowa said he wanted to stay with the yankees, don’t you think that Joe T was whispering in his ear to leave and go with him to LA?

  59. mel

    I don’t think we had a chance with Bowa. If that possibility was there, the Yankees would have kept him.

  60. Joe from Long Island

    As a matter of fact, mel, I think Cash was the one who originally brought him into the organization a couple of years ago.

  61. CB

    “Yet he let Bowa go and allowed Meacham in that role. So far he has done a terrible job. A-Rod was given poor directions from him twice already. Bowa wouldn’t have made those errors.”

    No you’re completely wrong. The Yankees wanted to keep Bowa - a lot.

    Bowa chose to leave in order to go with Torre to L.A. There were even some rumors about Bowa wanting to go to Seattle.

    And Meacham was not Cashman’s call. Meacham was Girardi’s selection. Meacham was with Girardi in Florida and Girardi loves him. Girardi picked meacham to replace Bowa.

    By the way - judging a third base coach on two plays in spring training is silly. Could we wait until the regular season before second guessing?

    This is a typical, uninformed comment from someone who just does not like cashman. Absolutely typical.

  62. mel

    Where’s Jim Calhoun from? That accent is wild.

  63. Doreen

    CB -

    Hear! Hear!

    I love when people make broad assertions based on zero facts.

    I’m 16-8 in my brackets so far, still have 7 out of the final 8, 3 of the final 4, but, alas, I’m missing USC! Darn. I didn’t get to see any games so far today, but my husband took this week off for vacation and is in college basketball heaven!

  64. mel

    Doreen,

    We’ve already had two games go down to the wire. One on a buzzer beater.

  65. Doreen

    Mel,

    I knew about UConn, because that was on during dinner, with hubby jumping up to go to the TV (no tv in the kitchen in my house). What was the other one?

  66. yanksrule57

    I can’t believe it. I am in the 99.5 percentile on the ESPN bracket. But even then there are 16000 people ahead of me. I am 21-3 and there are 25 people who are 24-0. That’s hard to believe but many people do multiple brackets. I belong to the Mike Golic school in that I only believe in doing one bracket per site (sheet of integrity).

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