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Phillies-Yankees: The Live Blog

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 24, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Welcome to Legends Field. It’s 65 degrees in Tampa and the Yankees will be playing the Phillies. The game is on WCBS and will be streaming at WCBS.com.

It’ll be 21-year-old Phil Hughes against 45-year-old Jamie Moyer. The Franchise will be going to 90 pitches. Hopefully that’s the seventh inning, as Joe Girardi said before the game.

Hughes could stand a good after after two rocky outings in a row. He has allowed 10 earned runs on 16 hits in his last 6.2 innings. Yikes.

FIRST INNING
Hughes put two runners on but struck out Ryan Howard and Pat Burrell looking to end the inning.

SECOND INNING
1-2-3 for Hughes. He’s at 36 pitches.

Giambi just went yard to right, 1-0 Yankees.

THIRD INNING
Hughes allowed a run in the third inning as Bruntlett singled, stole second and advanced on two fly balls. He’s at 49 pitches / 32 strikes.

It’s 2-1 Yankees and Jeter (2 for 2) just doubled to start the bottom of the inning.

Giambi’s RBI single made it 3-1.

FOURTH INNING
Hughes walked Burrell then allowed a two-out homer on a 2-2 pitch to Feliz. It’s 3-3.

FIFTH INNING
I do believe that will be it for Phil Franchise. He’s at 86 pitches (54 strikes). So if he goes back out, it’ll be for one batter.

His line: 5 3 3 3 2 6. That’s much better than his last two outings. But Hughes needs to learn to be more economical with his pitches.

The Yankees have taken a 7-3 lead. Hideki Matsui pinch hit against J.D. Durbin and delivered a sacrifice fly. Cano then hammered a three-run homer over everything in right field.

Melky just went yard with a two-run shot. 9-3 Yankees. They have had six hits and walk this inning against Durbin.

SIXTH INNING
Billy Traber allowed a run in the top of the inning. But the Yankees have tacked on four so far in the bottom. Cano had a two-run triple. He’s 3 for 4 with five RBI and is a double short of the cycle.

Phil Hughes will be available in the clubhouse soon, so the live blog may be cut short soon. But it’s 13-4 Yankees. The lead looks safe.

SEVENTH INNING
Some skinny Panamanian right-hander is pitching. Seems to cut his fastball.

Rivera struck out the side in the seventh, although he did issue his first walk of the spring. Counting a minor-league game, Rivera struck out 11 of the 27 batters he has faced this spring.

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676 Responses to “Phillies-Yankees: The Live Blog”

  1. Motown Yankees Fan March 24th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Anyone have the Gameday link?

  2. Craig March 24th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    WCBS.com is some weird travel industry site. The correct website is WCBSTV.com

  3. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Try WCBS880 in the URL bar if you’re using Firefox, takes you right there.

    Meanwhile, is the Moyer-Hughes start the greatest age differential start or what?

  4. Rudy March 24th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    where’s the link to stream the game? anyone have it? and the game isn’t on WCBS.

  5. Bo March 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    Does it work for you guys? I just hear weather?

  6. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    Yah it’s weather, but they’ve said the game is coming on.

  7. CB March 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Sterling opened the broadcast by saying Hughes has been pitching well of late.

    Has he even paid attention to the last two games. It’s going to be yet another great broadcast season…

    Gameday link:

    http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/#20080324

  8. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    hughes walks rollins…

  9. frenetic March 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    We haven’t had any reports yet, but can we please get some readings on Hughes’ fastball?

  10. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....;brand=mlb

  11. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    tomorrow’s game is at 6 AM, right?? espn.com says 5 AM… I was wondering if there’s supposed to be any live pre-game show or anything on espn

  12. Jason Bourne (a.k.a. David Webb) March 24th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    3 and 2/3 innings, that’s my guess and I’m sticking with it.

  13. Sean March 24th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    Game isn’t on WCBS 880… It’s news

  14. Jeff March 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Phil Hughes and Brian Cashman are pill poppin animals….

  15. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    doesn’t seem like phil will make it to the 7th at this rate

  16. Jax March 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Um, where’s the game on wcbs?

  17. Motown Yankees Fan March 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    I can’t get gameday to work at the office–can anyone fill me in on the game?

  18. Phil Hughes is Saved! March 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Good luck to Phil!

  19. Kevin March 24th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    Is it just me or is everyone else hearing news on wcbs880.com?

  20. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    Can someone post a link to the radio ffeed?

  21. TIME 4 #27 March 24th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    Nice k on howard

  22. Sean March 24th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    WHERE IS THE GAME!?!?!

  23. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    just so you guys know spring training is free on mlb.tv and gameday audio (you still need an mlb.com account though but its free to set one up) i’m getting the gameday audio from mlb just fine.

    jesus, i have headphones on cuz my GF is watching TV and it was not pleasant with sterling shouting STRIIIKE THREE with headphonea on…

  24. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    You have to get the MLB audio. The actual WCBS feed is blacked out.

  25. Hobs March 24th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    K’s Howard.

    1st and 2nd 2 outs

    Hughes has thrown alot of pitches.

  26. Hobs March 24th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    HAHA Brian,

    He screamed that…

  27. Phil Hughes is Saved! March 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    I guess the game isn’t streaming on wcbs.com
    I’m getting the news. :(

  28. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    but he got 2 nice K’s

  29. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    threw a lot of pitches that inning but two K’s were nice. one walk one hit.

  30. Motown Yankees Fan March 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    Thanks guys

  31. AndrewYF March 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    MLB.tv isn’t working either, it requires me to sign in. I thought ST games were free?

  32. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Rebecca

    http://mlb.mlb.com/index.jsp

  33. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Ohil Hughes: Go through mlb.com I had to figure that out the hard way.

  34. CB March 24th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Walking Rawlins to lead off the innings wasn’t ideal. But he worked out of it.

    K’ing howard and then Burell with two on was huge.

    His fastball command seems much better tonight.

  35. Hobs March 24th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Sterling is one of the morons thinking Chamberlain would be best in the bullpen…

  36. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    You can always listen on a “real” radio

  37. Jason Bourne (a.k.a. David Webb) March 24th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Pitch count so far? 25-30?

  38. Rudy March 24th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Yeah I can’t listen to games on MLB.com, asking me to purchase a plan even though I’m signed in

  39. Phil Hughes is Saved! March 24th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    I don’t have a “real” radio near me.

  40. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    i’m pretty sure spring training is free on gameday audio because i have never subscribed to the audio package, just mlb.tv, but i’m getting the spring training radio games anyway. you do need to sign in but it’s free to sign up for an mlb.com account, its the same account you would use at their shop.

    and its easy to get to the games on the mlb.com homepage, look at the score board in the left margin there are icons next to each game…the TV is video the speaker is audio the word BOX is an updating box score..

  41. Kevin March 24th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    It’s not working, I try to go to the game and instead of loading it brings me to the screen saying I need to buy one of the packages.

  42. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    I think audio is free with mlb.tv subscription

  43. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    i don’t know maybe it is free with mlb.tv…it’s confusing because i used to have mlb.tv and one time i tried to listen to a regular season game that was only on radio and it said i needed to buy the radio package. oh well i have no idea i guess.

  44. Derek - RETIRE 21!!! (Please?!) March 24th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    gameday is awful… whoever they tap in to update these things is obviously not qualified. i miss the yahoo gamechannel.. theyre EXCELLENT

  45. Josh March 24th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    this sucks that my XM radio only works in my car, maybe ill sit in the car and listen for a bit lol

  46. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    nothing spectacular for the yanks offense that inning.

  47. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    well this off-season i signed up for mlb.tv premium and it says you get all of regular mlb.tv and mlb audio free with it – you get all the features of everything else offered also

  48. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    oh, that explains it. i subscribed to premium last year with a renewing subscription i didn’t realize it came with the audio package. i thought it was just free for spring. sorry for the false hope everybody.

  49. Bo March 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Pete please ask a scout for Phil’s velocity readings!!! Thanks!

  50. Rudy March 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Yeah gameday is incredibly slow today

  51. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    thats for sure Brian. they just seem to have trouble with any of those soft tossing pitchers.
    frustrating. like against sonnenstine the other night

  52. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    a -rod makes a pop-up catch!

  53. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    sorry everyone!! I checked mlb.com, Brian you’re right it says you need to sign up for something to use the audio. But if you think about it you’re not missing much when you have Sterling broadcasting the game. So it doesn’t suck that much :)

  54. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    yeah, like i said i have headphones on and sterling keeps randomly increasing the volume of his voice mid sentence. its painful.

  55. moe March 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    you can’t listen to yankee games on cbs online only on the radio.

    can someone tell me y cbs still has joe torre tea ads?

  56. Nick March 24th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    Wow. According to Gameday Phil threw 12 pitches in the 1st inning. That’s a 4 pitch walk, 2 3-pitch strikeouts, and the other two batters swung on the first pitch.

  57. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Much better inning for Amigo Numero Uno.

  58. CB March 24th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    I thought Britton getting cut today was pretty ironic.

    Last year there were many people who were adamant that the only reason why Britton wasn’t getting called up despite putting up good numbers was Torre. Torre didn’t care about performance, Britton wasn’t one of his “trusted” guys, Britton wasn’t experienced, etc., etc.

    In short Britton never had a chance because of “Clueless Joe.”

    Other guy who many people didn’t like was Guidry – wasn’t a technical pitching coach, wasn’t sound on teaching mechanics, didn’t appreciate statistics, etc, etc.

    Girardi is thought of by many as the exact opposite of Torre – he’ll only care about results, demands competition, etc. In the same way the Eiland is thought to be the exact opposite of guidry – very technical, good communicator, solid on mechanics, etc.

    What happens this year – Britton continues performing well in spring training and isn’t treated substanstially different by Girardi/ Eiland than he was by Torre/ Eiland.

    Girardi never gave Britton any serious consideration. Didn’t get many innings and when he got into games it was usually late, after all the major leaguers were pulled.

    Today he got cut the same day as Dan Giese and Heath Phillips.

    It’s pretty clear that despite Britton’s very good numbers there is somethings about the quality of his pitches and his stuff baseball people just don’t like – factors that are largely qualitative that they are seeing that don’t show up in the box score. The same box scores many people were convinced Torre just couldn’t read or wouldn’t pay any attention to.

    Dave Eiland was Britton’s pitching coach for the entire year last year in AAA. He knows him very well. Despite that Britton never got a good look this spring despite pitching well. Eiland had to have some input into who was going to get the last few spots in the pen, especially since he’s seen so many of them in the minors last year.

    Whatever it is about Britton – the orioles gave up on him, “clueless Joe” did and now Girardi hasn’t thought much of him – despite good numbers.

    When managers/ coaches that different come to the same conclusion that says something.

  59. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    nice quick 1-2-3 inning for the franchis. but god i actually wish Phil would stop striking people out so sterling wouldn’t scream into my ears. it’s just spring, john..

  60. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    omg moe i was just thinking that, it’s pissing me off – on yes network.com before every single video they play either this stupid green tea ad with torre talking about sleeping on the bench or a reallllly loud truck ad that blows out my eardrums…

    that chat about “coste to coste” really added something to this game

  61. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    Sounds like Phil had a much better second inning.

    **Note to those in fantasy draft number 1. Draft is tomorrow night at 8:30 be there or be square!

  62. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    why shouldn’t they have joe torre ads? it’s not like he’s dead. he still happens to be a beloved figure in new york, regardless of what you might think moe

  63. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    By the way, anyone who understood the fine print of that ad has got to get their ears checked.

  64. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    there it goes… it is fair it is high it is far it is gone… i think he added a line

  65. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    the Giambino!

  66. sean ryan March 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    so what was phils line for that inning?

  67. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    In my 13 run game I got the Pirates!!

  68. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Giambi bunting makes as much sense as Isaiah Thomas coaching.

  69. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    rebecca: ;)

  70. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    has anyone ever hit a bunt homerun?

  71. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    RO-CA!

  72. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    …Magic wand of Canò?

    That does not play well in adolescent minds.

  73. Patrick March 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    I’m streaming wcbs 880 online and the Yankees are not on it. Is anyone listening online w/ a link?

  74. moe March 24th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    we all love joe torre but give us a break we had enough of him. he is not here anymore..

    how is it possible that sterling still knows nothing about baseball??

  75. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    1st and 3rd – one out after base hit by Duncan

  76. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Patrick: Go to mlb.com and cclick on the sound link next to the yanks score on the sidebar.

  77. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    is there some place online that’s keeping track of the number of pitches?

  78. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    shelley!!

  79. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    i just scrolled back up, turns out…here! thanks pete.

  80. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    gameday says it while the pitcher is pitching

  81. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    2-0 Yankees – Cano scores on strikeout by Ensberg and throw into centerfield trying to get Duncan running.

  82. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Ensberg still slumping.

  83. PJH March 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    I tried the mlb.com thing and it says I have to pay.

  84. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    RayBlay:

    You say on gameday it shows the pitch count? Where? I have the mediaplayer up for the audio and the box score page up, i don’t see it. is it on the new version of the mediaplayer or something because i have the old one.

  85. Andrea - anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Giambi bunting wouldn’t be the worst idea. Especially if it’s up the 3rd base line when they’ve got the shift on him. They’d never get him out.

  86. CB March 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Harry Kalas calls the radio games for Philadelphia if people are fed up with Sterling. They also don’t have any commercials on.

  87. SP March 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    The gameday pitch counts are really off…Hughes is around 40 pitches

  88. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    STERLING!! He made me think that was gone!! Why get so excited!!

  89. AndrewYF March 24th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Damn it Sterling. He sure makes your heart pound.

  90. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Jennifer – I agree. Sterling is so bad. This last play he made it sound like the Yanks would get the out at the plate.

    2-1 Yanks

  91. CB March 24th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Harry Kalas is in the hall of fame….

  92. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    2-1 Yanks after 2 1/2 innings.

  93. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Eh, I don’t know about you guys, but I’ll take Sterling over Kay.

    Waldman, not so much.

  94. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    He is so bad!! And I cannot stand hearing people say Joba belongs in the pen. Look at all the pitchers who are in the pen. It is mostly guys who couldn’t cut it as a starter. Starting with Mo! Joba has 3-4 pitches!! Why waste someone like that in the pen? The only reason the Yankees are putting him in the pen is to get his innings near the total they want! Not because they don’t think he can cut it!!

  95. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    “Giambi bunting wouldn’t be the worst idea.”

    Given how much he walks, and the fact that by bunting you’re removing the chance of him getting a double or a homer, it really makes no sense. And, taking into account that he’s probably REALLY bad at it, and that if the pitcher or catcher can get to it, he’d almost surely be out…doesn’t make much sense.

    He’s worked all spring on taking pitches the other way again. If he can do that with ANY regularity at all, teams will stop shifting on him, which would be desirable.

  96. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Bob Lorenz and Ken Singleton on YES the last couple of days has been a treat.

    I do miss Jim Kaat though.

    Yeah Jeet!

  97. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    …What did they just say about Traber? Or were my ears playing tricks on me?

  98. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Phil’s only problem tonight is pitch count!! He needs to get a few quick innings. Otherwise he sounds like he is doing a lot better than his last two starts.

  99. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    my favorite call of all time

    deep to left! Yazstremskiiiii will not get there IT’S A HOMERUN… a three run homerun by Bucky Dent and the Yankees now lead it by a score of three to two!

  100. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    Sterling and Waldman are speculating that Ohlendorf gets the last bullpen spot.

  101. Motown Yankees Fan March 24th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Brian – I don’t remember that call, but I remember the moment. One of the best.

  102. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    White Rizzuto Messer

    Kaat and Singleton were gold too.

  103. Dave S. March 24th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    I agree with your general sentiment, Whozat, but the benefit of Giambi bunting against the shift is less for getting on base in that at-bat and more for making the defense alter the way it plays him later on in the game. They’re not going to give him a free bunt base more than once in a game, which will open the gap to right for him later.

  104. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    it’s funny how people complain about Sterling’s excitement making you think the ball is going out or something, but people loved that as one of Phil Rizzuto’s little quirks.

    Holy cow there’s a deep drive that’s gonna be outta he- oh and it’s caught by the 2nd basemen!

  105. Andrea - anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    whozat: I didn’t mean in a big game situation. But I mean Giambi bunting might work better than Abreu. They’re never prepared for it if Giambi bunts. I just think it would be funny.

  106. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    Brian the difference is Phil was cute, John is not.

  107. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    motown yanks fan: youtube that play i’m sure you’ll find at least a couple with that call as the audio

  108. mird March 24th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    there’s a clip on the official yankee site of giambi bunting to get on base

  109. NJ in Tampa March 24th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Giambi and Jeter starting to heat up, nice.

  110. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    i don’t remember it :(

  111. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    In general I’d like to see more bunts – if for nothing mare than to keep the defenses thinking – its a lost art

    Sterling ans Waldman have a lot of faults – but I’d rather listen to them on radio than pretty much anyone else.
    They entertain.

  112. mird March 24th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    woo hughes gave up a 2-run homer

  113. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    John did it again! And why must he YELL!! I can hear him just fine!!

  114. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    this start by phil is not turning out all that great either.

  115. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    So I’m thinking Phil’s going to have an issue with the long ball.

  116. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    i’m getting depressed…

  117. moe March 24th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    hughes just gave up a 2 run bomb to feliz. I guess he sucks against the NL lol.

  118. mird March 24th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    anyone interested: here’s the clip of giambi bunting… look under June 23rd.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....;ym=200506

  119. Ivan March 24th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Feliz is not even a good hitter. Oh well.

  120. THU March 24th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Feliz has some power though.

  121. Joe from Long Island March 24th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    I’ll start to worry about Phil in a week. Until then, say what you want, it doesn’t matter.

  122. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    Gameday lists Hughes at 36 pitches right now (after 4 IP)… PeteAbe said he was at 36 two innings ago…
    ???

  123. Jax March 24th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Well the Pirates aren’t a great offense either. Hughes didn’t fair too well that day.

  124. PJH March 24th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Gameday also has A-Rod grounding out foul in deep left field.

  125. Joe from Long Island March 24th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    To give you an example, last spring two guys who had the best ST stats were a first baseman named Josh Phelps and a pitcher named Sean Henn.

  126. Phil Hughes is Saved! March 24th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    eh
    oh well

  127. Ranting Guy March 24th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    Which will be the higher number?

    Number of books sold by Mike Lupica (specifically the one advertised in the banner at the top of the page) this year.

    OR

    Number of base hits by Giambi this year.

    (I was SO tempted to say ‘bunt hits’ but I gave LaPuke a small, rhetorical benefit of the doubt while still making it necessary to think a minute about which might actually be the higher number by October.)

  128. Drive 4-5 March 24th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    I was really hoping Karstens or somebody would have laid claim to the long reliever’s role. We could see a lot of games where the Yanks need to make a change in the 6th ininng or sooner. As we start the season there’s really no one other than CMW that can be relied on to go deep in a game. Girardi knows this and that’s probably the reason Kei Igawa is still in camp.

  129. SJ44 March 24th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    I don’t think Phil is going to have a problem with the long ball.

    Let’s remember what the “mission” was tonight. Posada wants him to throw his fastball more and in any count. That’s how you gain confidence in spotting the fastball.

    Frankly, he is throwing the ball very well. The Phillies are an AL type of offensive team. This is a great learning experience for him.

    Some of you have to realize, players like Hughes, Kennedy, even Joba, are kids. They are learning everytime they go out to pitch in a game.

    There will be bumps in the road. Just have a little patience.

    His stuff is too good for him not be an above average ML pitcher.

    Enjoy the process and don’t get so focused on ST results.

  130. PJH March 24th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Ranting Guy- or Phil Hughes’ ERA?

  131. Ranting Guy March 24th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    My over/under is 127.

    Giambi will be tearing the skin off the ball before he gets hurt.

  132. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    another jeter GIDP. shades of 2007….

  133. stuart March 24th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    SJ don’t use logic, let the little kiddies worry about a ST game.

    remember Tampa is going all the way they have the best ST record!!!!!!!

  134. Drive 4-5 March 24th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    SJ44,

    Any thoughts on who the long man might end up being?

  135. YankeeDiva March 24th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    b>

    I’d love to see that highlight LOL

  136. chris March 24th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    I think the actually pitched count is around 60 now.

  137. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    I’m not worried a bout Phil, I think he’s going to be great, but every pitcher has a weakness, even the best ones, and if you’re a fly ball pitcher, you’re going to run into the long ball on occasion.

    But I think Phil’s going to be amazing. So I’m not worried.

  138. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    Not too shabby

  139. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    3 more outs without a run and it is a “quality start” for whatever that is worth

  140. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    why is the gameday pitch count so off??

  141. OldYanksFan March 24th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    This is the first time I’ve ever listened to Sterling and Waldman on the radio. Sterling has a good, deep announcer voice, but it doesn’t sound good doing baseball. Waldman? Terrible voice. How does she have this job? As a pair, they are very hard to listen to. I’m now listening to the Phily broadcast. MUCH better.

  142. SJ44 March 24th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Stuart,

    I know. I too often hope some of the chicken little’s really look at this team and see how good it is. This is a very, very good team.

    Drive, looks to me its between Karstans and Rasner. Both guys are what they are. To me, they are interchangable. Neither guy is distinguishable.

    Its the worst slot in the bullpen and there isn’t a team in baseball that has a “quality” long guy. You just put a guy out there to eat some innings after bad starts and that’s all the job entails.

    When the schedule gets more reasonable, or its later in the year, you can move away from a long guy and put another guy in the ‘pen who can get outs.

    For the early part of this season though, they need a long guy for schedule reasons.

    I thought Karstans had the edge until yesterday. He just may have opened the door for Rasner.

    Its now up to Rasner to take advantage of the opening and pitch well. His ST numbers are as bad as Karstans.

    Igawa? I think he needs to start every 5th day in Scranton and see how that turns out.

    He’s not the ideal long man to me because he’s never done it in his life.

    He’s had enough adjustments to go through. Why add that to it?

  143. longtime March 24th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    if Phil pitches this bad every game he’ll strike out 200 and win 16 to 17 games. he’ll get better

  144. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    I think we are all suffering from CABIN FEVER
    Who all is going to opening day!?

  145. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Hey guys! I broke 30 pages on my thesis! I know I’ve still got fifty mmore to write, but I’d been stuck on 23 for about a month so I consider this a major accomplishment!

  146. CB March 24th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Overall this has been a very good start for Phil. A big step forward from where he was over the past two games.

    For what it’s worth the Phillies announcers have been very impressed with Hughes.

    They said the ball was coming out of his hand very nicely and exploding towards the plate. They were also impressed with how free and easy his delivery was towards the plate and the pop he was generating on his fastball.

    They were especially impressed with how Hughes made Ryan Howard look. And it wasn’t simply the two strike outs.

    Rather, they said it was very rare for Howard to get fooled as badly as he did on Hughes fastball. He doesn’t miss on fastball’s and he was back on his heels, taking what hughes was throwing.

    They were also impressed with how sharp his curve ball was breaking.

    Again, it’s spring training. These type of process things are what’s really important as Phil tries to lock down his mechanics and how he throws.

  147. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    why does he have to raise his voice so loud if he knows it’s going to be caught?!?!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!
    I can tell from the way he says it it’s not going out why doesn’t he just relax

  148. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Congrats Rebecca

    What’s the topic? can you share?

  149. Drive 4-5 March 24th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    SJ44,

    It makes one appreciate what Ramiro Mendoza meant to the 90′s Yanks. Hopefully, by August or so there’s Humberto Sanchez to add to the mix.

  150. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    Jimmy – I’ll be there on opening day with my kids. We are all playing hooky.

  151. nyyfaninlaaland March 24th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

    Right on SJ.

    And while Feliz doesn’t hit much for average, he has hit for power as a righty in SF. He’s got legitmate power, just a crappy hitter for AVG, OBP. If you need HR’s on your fantasy team, now that he’s in Philly’s bandbox he’s not a terrible late pickup. Good D will keep him playing, especially if the Phils trade Helms.

  152. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Motown – have a good time – I’ll be going the Sat after.

  153. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Jimmy27: Henry VII of England. My thesis is about how he stabilized the English monarchy after fifty years of civil war. Don’t let that scare you, though, it’s an awesome story. Very A Song of Ice and Fire ish.

  154. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Anyone have an extra ticket to opening day?

  155. Westerner99 March 24th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Don’t ‘cha know, it’s Robbie Cano.

  156. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Rebecca – I love that series! Sounds like a great thesis. You do our school proud.

  157. Andrea - anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Good to see Cano hitting the ball!

  158. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    RO-CA!!!!

  159. OldYanksFan March 24th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    3 run HR for Robby C., LONG bomb. 7-3 Yanks

  160. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Guess Robbie is feeling better.

  161. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    wow was that f’in awesome

  162. JDnotDrew March 24th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Oh n’ Yea Cano!

  163. Westerner99 March 24th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Sterling blows the call…Duncan doubles.

  164. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Motown: My love for history probably wouldn’t have happened without Knaus. (I never had Kuzma for history, so I can’t say the same).

    It’s my favorite series.

    BACK TO BACK!

    Or not. DARN YOU JOHN STERLING

  165. Drive 4-5 March 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    GameDay still has the score 3-3 lol

  166. OldYanksFan March 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Double off the wall for Shelly.

  167. bronxbomber77 March 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    A lot of people (the Bristol boys) are picking the Phils and DBacks as the NL favs over the Mets…

    Any guesses?

  168. gayle March 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Gotta love Sterling calls the HR then says oh excuse me it is off the wall.

  169. nyyfaninlaaland March 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    SJ –

    What about Patterson as a long candidate. He did stretch out sometimes in Trenton, though not often to 3+ innings? I’d be surprised given never pitching above AA he’d be the choice, but he’s no kid, and where’s the harm seeing what’s he got in the mop up role. He could surprise and grow into more.

    Plus I still think with Joba in the pen and Karstens being a bit iffy, they might want to keep Karstens stretched out in case a spot start or 2 is required early. So hopefully Rasner steps up if Karstens doesn’t or Patterson isn’t seen as an alternative.

  170. JDnotDrew March 24th, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    Oh John’s killin me with the HR call………..it’s gone, oh no it’s not. lol

  171. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    OKAY. THAT’S ENOUGH. I’M STARTING AN OFFICIAL STERLING WRONG HR-CALL COUNTER FOR THE SEASON…
    Who’s with me? I don’t listen to every game on the radio but I’d love to count how many times he blows HR (or fly out) calls. Anyone like to help?

  172. Yeah!! March 24th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    I’m a little lost, the reason being I just started to read this blog about a month ago. Why do they call Phil Hughe “The Franchise”, I really wan’t to know. someone please tell me.

  173. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Rayblay sure, But I don’t listen to most games either. There has to be more than this one though.

  174. Westerner99 March 24th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    Damn! Melky, too!

  175. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Wow this poor pitcher!! 4 shots hit off of him.

  176. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    And who wants Gardner?

    Also, can we have this Durbin guy pitching against us every game?

  177. gayle March 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    At this point you do have to feel bad for JD DUrbin

  178. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    ughhh i literally spit on my computer on the duncan call it was so ridiculous
    you can tell when they’re not out when sterling has that uncertain feeling in his voice

    How about a “Jeterian swing” counter as well? Or is that pushing it?

  179. JDnotDrew March 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    This is better than BP -dang!

  180. jason March 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    To me this is a good start for Phil. In five innings three hits and two walks. WHIP of 1. 6 Strikeouts (more than one an inning) against most of the Philly regulars – who are supposed to contend for the NL East. Unfortunate for the homerun, but all in all a good outing. If he can stretch a bit and give up 3-4 runs in six innings, he will win a ton of games this year with teh way the Yanks will hit. Look around the league and see who already have significant pitching injuries. IPK, Phil, Hughes, Joba and Wang safe and healthy to start the year is one up on most teams.

  181. Yeah!! March 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    Rayblay

    I’m with you even though I don’t listen to him anymore he annoys me.

  182. bronxbomber77 March 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    I just want to say to Pete, CB, SJ, Rebecca, and all the other regulars in here that I truly enjoy the comment section of this blog.

    The thoughtfulness and intelligence displayed here by both blogger and commenters is truly astounding.

    Mr. Abraham, you have set the bar for the future of sports blogging. Kudos to you. And your bosses at Lohud!

    I read all day at work (don’t tell my boss!) and I rarely have time to jump into conversations.

    But I just wanted all you Yankees fans to know, from one NYY fan to a group, you make this place feel like the TV show Cheers from the 80s.

    What a wonderful thing we have going here.

    Again, thank you Pete for your contribution to the greater good of Yankee-dom.

  183. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/mlb/index

    What kind of garbage is this?

  184. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    i want gardner for sure

  185. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Rebecca – Sounds pretty interesting. Seems Henry V and VIII get all the ink. I’ll check out VII’s stats.
    Had to look up “A Song of Ice and Fire” Sounds real cool. What age would it be appropriate for – have a 14 year old neice – is she old enough?

    BTW Henry V by K. Brannagh is a great film – if you like Shakespeare

  186. Brandon (supporting the new movement "Alex being Alex") March 24th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    so Phil Franchise did good for a tune up.

  187. Deep to Left March 24th, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    NESN south is at it again

  188. SJ44 March 24th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    Feliz will hit over 25 HR’s and drive in over 100 runs in Philly.

    With that lineup: Rollins, Utley, Howard and Burrell, hitting in front of him, and that home ballpark, he is going to have a monster year.

    He’s a very good player who got lost in SF. Things will be different this year.

    Really guys, take a look at this team. Cano, Duncan and Melky hit missles tonight. They aren’t even the top 3 hitters on the team!

    They will score a TON of runs.

    The key for the starters will be twofold this season:

    1. Keep them in the games early. They will score close to a 1000 runs this year, if they remain healthy. Just stay close early in games and give the offense a chance to roll.

    2. This is the most important thing. Don’t give up runs the half inning after you score. Shutdowns innings MUST be a priority.

    The inability to that the past 3 years has made Moose a more of a pedestrian pitcher than his stuff. Its been a staff-wide problem (except for Wang, who has the best shutdown inning numbers on the staff) since 2005 and it has to change this season.

    The biggest way to have shutdown innings is to eliminate the walks. That’s been a point of emphasis in this camp.

    If they can consistent complete the above principals, they are going to be a dominant team this year.

  189. EY March 24th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    jennifer: that’s your typical espn red sux bias

  190. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    I got one of the tickets for a game I ordered. The tickets are nice, not the usual ticket master garbage. It has the final season logo. very sharp looking.

  191. Brandon (supporting the new movement "Alex being Alex") March 24th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    Jennifer they’re getting the campaign started earlier this year

  192. Elizabeth--Melky in CF 08 and beyond March 24th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    That’s my boy!!!! :D

  193. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Jimmy – if your 14 year old is a good reader, it’s probably ok for her. There isn’t anything graphic; great story. plus really long books to get lost in. Good for the post-Harry Potter crowd.

  194. bronxbomber77 March 24th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Pete– why my comments not displaying?

  195. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    “I’m a little lost, the reason being I just started to read this blog about a month ago. Why do they call Phil Hughe “The Franchise”, I really wan’t to know. someone please tell me.”

    Alliterative effect??

    I wonder why Bucholz is called “laptop”

  196. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    Jimmy: A Song of Ice and Fire is really, really adult. Like, there’s incest (multiple occasions), body part hacking offs, killing even the characters you think are the main main main guys…fourteen years old might be okay, but you’d have to be really mature. Think like GLADIATOR with the R-rated stuff increased sevenfold.

  197. Joe from Long Island March 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    I realize that many disagree with me…But I find John and Suzyn a hoot to listen to.

  198. EY March 24th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Jimmy 27:
    Because when Bucholz was in high school he stole many laptops from the school lab and got suspended.

  199. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Thank you Motown and Rebecca – always trying to find “good” stuff for my neices and nephews. They are way too into the gaming-high school musical-etc crap.

  200. SJ44 March 24th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    I don’t think you can stretch out Patterson. He did it a couple of times in AA. HOwever, its a far cry from AA to the majors. Too much of a change for him to make right now, IMO.

    A long guy also has to be able to double as a spot starter. There will be times a starter comes up lame or sick and you need to plug in the long guy for a start.

    That’s not really Patterson’s forte.

    I think, if he goes to AAA, and dominates, he will be in the bullpen at some point in the season.

    Just has to do it in the role they give him in AAA.

    If he does, I think Girardi would have no problem calling him up and using him.

    Overall, I think it was a good start for Phil. Yes, he has to be more economical on his pitches. He also faced a tough lineup.

    Another learning experience and he will grow from it and move on.

  201. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Jimmy – you know about Bucholz, right?

  202. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    jenn:

    i only got one of the ones i ordered as well. i was worried that they lost one in the mail. maybe they are just mailing them randomly

  203. Blargh March 24th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Rebecca: To answer your question from the previous thread, King George checks in at #380 on the Forbes 400 list from September 2007 (at a networth of 1.3 billion)

  204. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Jimmy, I can’t tell whether or not you’re serious. But in case you were:

    Phil Franchise is because that’s what Peter named him (although I don’t think it ever really caught on). As in, Phil is the savior of the Franchise.

    Laptops is because he stole a bunch of laptops from a high school before he was drafted.

  205. Abepeter March 24th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Rasner is much better than Karstens. Over their respective careers (both spanning about 52 innings) Rasner’s ERA is 1.5 runs better (4.13 vs. 5.65). His ERA this spring is better than Karstens by a mile (5.8 vs 9.6). If Rasner doesn’t make it, it is likely that the Yankees want to go with a homegrown guy.

    Oh and for those playing at home Phil’s ERA in 72 innings is 4.46 and his ST ERA is around 7.5.

    I’m not saying Rasner is Hughes, but some on this forum need to open their eyes and be honest. I bet if Rasner put up the exact numbers that Phil did tonight, everyone would not be saying “all things considered it was a very good outing…”

  206. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Erm, Motown, are we reading the same series? You know, Jaime/Cersei, Rhaegar/Danerys…

  207. Brandon (supporting the new movement "Alex being Alex") March 24th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Jimmy 27 he’s actually been coined The Phranchise or Phil Phranchise because when the Yankees drafted him he changed the way the organization looked at it’s prospects, years prior we would have traded kids like him for quick fixes but Cashman chose to keep him as the staple to what he’s rebuilding.

  208. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    EY for real? He’s a felon?

    “I realize that many disagree with me…But I find John and Suzyn a hoot to listen to.”
    I agree, as I said before they entertain.

  209. Yeah!! March 24th, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Lol, thanks Jimmy.

  210. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    “Like, there’s incest”

    And the incestuous pair cripple a child to cover up their incest. There’s also child-bride action going on.

    NOT for kids.

    Most interesting fantasy novels I’ve read in a long time, though.

  211. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Rebecca – Yes, do you think it’s too much for a 14 year old? I read them a while ago, but I’m thinking about the Judy Blume we were reading at that age.

    Jimmy, on further review, you probably don’t want to get your neice’s parents angry, so maybe skip this series for a few years. (Rebecca – I suddenly recalled the scene when the boy fell out of the tree, and why)

  212. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Traber gave up a run, but pitched well against the lefties he faced.

  213. EY March 24th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Jimmy 27:
    “Clay Buchholz, a righthander from Angelina Junior College in Texas, was taken last summer with a first-round sandwich pick by the Sox, as other teams passed because Buchholz had been arrested for stealing 29 laptops from his high school and selling them.”

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....ms/?page=3

  214. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    Just for aClarity “Yeah” originally had the the question about Phil Phranchise.

    I had no idea about Bucholz – that’s funny.
    Can’t wait for the “laaaaap tooooooop” chants

  215. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    People should hold up signs, keep Burk away from press box.

  216. SJ44 March 24th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Again, we are quoting stats without context.

    You can’t just compare ERA’s over 50 innings and determine which guy is better.

    Who did each guy face? For example, its a little different to put up your numbers against the Red Sox rather than the Royals.

    You look at the stuff of each guy (Karstans and Rasner) and they basically are the same guy. Rasner has had trouble with the strikezone this spring. That’s a fact.

    Karstans doesn’t miss many bats. That’s a fact.

    Comparing ERA’s with Hughes? That’s just foolish. Both guys aren’t in Hughes’ league as a pitcher.

    The game is more than just stats. Especially, when you are using stats without any context.

    Last inning was an example of what I was talking about. You put up a 6 spot and give a run back.

    That’s three times tonight they gave up runs the half inning after they score.

    That has to change in the regular season or they will have to score a ton of runs, and blowout the bullpen again, to win games.

    Tighten that up, and its really going to be fun to watch this team this season.

  217. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    “Rebecca – Yes, do you think it’s too much for a 14 year old? I read them a while ago, but I’m thinking about the Judy Blume we were reading at that age.”

    There is graphic violence, depraved sex, incest, casual murder…

    Are you SURE you read the same books we’re talking about? The series isn’t over yet…

  218. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    We’ve got fantasy buffs on this blog?

    SWEET!

    Motown: I’m thinking a mature 14 year old might be okay, but they should probably have a year or two of high school and controversial reading material under their belt.

    And yeah, I remember that scene.

    Personally, I love Danerys (sp?), Jon Snow and Tyrion. A Storm of Swords is my favorite in the series. LOVE LOVE LOVE the last scene.

  219. Brandon (supporting the new movement "Alex being Alex") March 24th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Melky homered ?

    anyway the only advice I give topeople is not to be lieing down while listening to Sterlin and Waldman before you know it your waking up the next day.

  220. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    http://www.wnbc.com/money/15693725/detail.html

    Info for Xm radio and Sirus radio users. Not sure what it means for us yet.

  221. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    Robbie on fire. A two run triple.

  222. george March 24th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    i think “The Franchise” was what they used to call Tom Seaver. back not long after the days of Henry VII, around 1968 or so, he almost literally was considered “The Franchise” for the Mets, back when they were at the Devil Ray level of the food chain.

    of course Jeter technically is the Franchise, but it’s a cool nickname for Hughes nonetheless.

  223. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Rebecca and whozat,

    Any idea when the next book is coming out? And will that be the end or is this another one of those never-ending series?

  224. mird March 24th, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    wonder if cano will be allowed to hit for the cycle

  225. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    sooo… i stopped listening after the 4th because it was 3-3 and i wasn’t that into the game, figured i had heard as much of Phil’s outing as was worth hearing….i come back later and it’s now 13-4…..wow. i see above how we go to 9 runs but where did the latest 4 come from?

  226. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    thanks all for the answer on Laptop boy

    and all the input on a “song of fire and ice”.

  227. jennifer-Phil Hughes saved!! Mussina is NOT DONE! anti-anti March 24th, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Lots of homeruns!!

  228. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Rebecca – Storm of Swords is on my bookshelf, unread as yet. I’ve been falling way behind in my reading; perhaps spending too much time on the internet? Jon Snow is my favorite too.

    I guess I am remembering what I was reading at age 14–The Godfather was huge among my friends when we were in 8th grade. My parents would have been shocked that we were reading that. But I agree, Ice and Fire for mature teens only…

    Whozat is speaking sense.

  229. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    “Any idea when the next book is coming out?”

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/40964.html

    The author says if he can finish it by June, we’ll see it by fall. But no promises on that :-)

    I’m pretty sure it’s not the last one. Given that he broke the 4th book in half and it was STILL long, it seems like it might be getting away from him. It happened with Wheel of Time and it’s gotten to the point that it’s just not good anymore. And now the author’s dead. So that sucks too.

  230. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    Clare: Check Martin’s blog, http://grrm.livejournal.com They’re thinking in the fall, if he can finish it.

    They’re planning on seven books total.

    Book one is awesome, book two keeps you reading, book three is AMAZING, and book four is a major let down, but there’s a reason for it that I can’t go into without spoiling the series ;)

  231. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    BTW there is talk of a HBO series of SOFAI

    I just finished season 1 of BSG – any fans?

  232. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    “I guess I am remembering what I was reading at age 14–The Godfather was huge among my friends when we were in 8th grade.”

    I think back then I was reading some David Eddings books, and also the Shannara books. And Arthur C. Clarke. Childhood’s End is really good, if I remember correctly.

  233. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Motown: OMG. Put the blog down an go read it. I read it in a night. No, seriously.

    Whozat: Dude, are you on livejournal too?

  234. stuart March 24th, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    maybe Igawa will pith well at SWB and the Yanks can unload him..

    I like Rasner better then karstens… They are ying or yang but I think Rasner is slightly better, but both are high 4 ERA’s best case scenario.

    I say adios to Henn and leave the last 3 spots to whichever young guy pitched better in ST….

    I pray we do not go back to the seniority system like Torre’s…….

  235. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Thanks Whozat.

    Yeah, I gave up on Wheel of Time a while back because I couldn’t remember enough of the series by the time the next book came out, and I got tired of re-reading them.

    Who else do you like?

  236. Abepeter March 24th, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Ok, last year, Rasner faced Bedard, Washburn twice, Blanton, Carmona and Glavine. The Yankees were 3-3 in those games and were in every one except the one against Glavine when Rasner got hurt and Meyers gave up Rasner’s inherited runs and a bunch of his own. He kept them in games when noone except Arod was hitting. Karstens, after getting hurt (and shelled) against Boston came back when the Yankees were winning at a .667 clip and put up an 11.00 ERA. Stats do need context and there they are. You’re entitled to your opinion but again some level of reality is needed.

    As I said in my earlier email. I was not putting Rasner in Hughes league, but I was basically making the point that based on objective stats Rasner has done a good job.

  237. CB March 24th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    bronxbomber77,

    Appreciate the nice thoughts. It’s a great blog and everyone’s comments together spur great conversation.

  238. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    “I just finished season 1 of BSG – any fans?”

    Yup. The season that they’re making right now is the last one…the first and second seasons were really good, the third didn’t really do it for me as much…Starbuck started to kind of irritate me. A lot. I think, though, that this being the last season will help a lot. Things won’t just kind of wander around…they plot development should kick into high gear.

  239. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    (don’t want to interrupt the book club meeting lol)

    but anyone getting up at 6 ET to watch the season opener? i might…watched the Cards and Mets last year as boring as that was, just to see baseball that counts. i don’t have to leave for class until 9AM so i can see the vast majority of the game.

  240. Nettles vs. Lee March 24th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    In approximately 52 big league innings, Rasner has an ERA+ of 107.

    In approximately 57 big league innings, Karstens has an ERA+ of 80.

    On the other hand, their minor league numbers are remarkably similar.

    In approximately 535 IP, Rasner has a 3.41 ERA and 1.28 WHIP.

    In approximately 571 IP, Karstens has a 3.48 ERA and 1.27 WHIP.

  241. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Rebecca – in a night? Impressive. Must read Bridge of Sighs for my book club (love the upstate NY setting; brings me back to college); but I promise I will get to storm of swords.

    Whozat – I’ve discoved SF/Fantasy as an adult–I think I missed out on a lot as a teen (other than Wrinkle in Time). Harry Potter has changed that for a generation of readers, I think.

    Jimmy – HBO series=great idea. Thanks for that.

  242. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Brian: Likely not. My body does really really poorly in the morning.

  243. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Motown: I was hooked. Went to sleep about 4.30 AM. Had hell to pay for that, my body was NOT happy.

    It was soooo worth it though.

  244. Yeah!! March 24th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    “But Hughes needs to learn to be more economical with his pitches”.

    Pete has use that phrase a whole lot this spring,and I hope for the Yankees sake Pete stop saying it.

    Understand we can hit. But if we over use our bullpen, is going to hurt us in the long run(like in sep-octo) When we face playoff like competition, specially since is kinda of shaky to start with.

    Hopefully, Yankees pitcher could bring their pitches/inning down abit that will make me happy. But is easier said than done.

  245. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Brian – I’ll be up on my treadmill at that hour–but watching the Red Sox is not what I want to do first thing; or really ever.

  246. rackem March 24th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

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  247. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    By the way, I think Pete’s noticed we’ve gone book club…

  248. Yeah!! March 24th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Brian from Pa

    I’m definitely watching, since I have to be up anyways.

  249. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Rebecca and whozat,

    Thanks for the link. It looks like a great site.

    I’m almost as obsessive about BSG as I am about the Yankees. I even named my Rotti after Boomer. I keep getting questions like – why’d you name her Boomer since she’s female? (The answer is because she’s beautiful and affectionate, when she’s not an evil Cylon. :) ) But the Esiason fans don’t get it.

    Can’t wait til next week. I agree the third season was uneven, but Starbuck can do no wrong. Such an awesome character.

    A

  250. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Wow, I’m really loving the offense tonight.

  251. Fran March 24th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Mariano with a strong inning striking out the side.

    John Sterling with a plug that tomorrow night from 10-midnight on QVC there will be a show selling Yankee memorabilia.

  252. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    there aren’t a lot of non-Yankees’ games i will actually watch, but Red Sox games are in the few i would. I mean there one of the only other teams that i have an interest in what they’re doing, obviously. i root for the Yankees and for whoever is playing the Red Sox.

  253. Elizabeth--Melky in CF 08 and beyond March 24th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Haha Rebecca– Pete peaced out.

  254. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    “Whozat: Dude, are you on livejournal too?”

    Nah. I go to therapy instead :-)

    “Who else do you like?”

    I still love the Belgariad and the Mallorean by David Eddings. I read them when I was a young teen and like the characters and their senses of humor a lot. Also, the Elenium and the Tamuli by the same guy. The latter are kind of derivative of the former, but still fun. I stopped liking his later stuff…it was all the same, but less well done.

    And, Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card. But not much of the rest of those books.

    Tolkein, though I think it’d be easy to get impatient with his verbose style.

    Asimov, Clarke. A girl I dated put me onto the whole Beggars In Spain series by Nancy Kress.

    Magic Kingdom For Sale — Sold! and that series of books by Terry Brooks are fun. I read all the Shannara books when I was a kid, but reading them again I don’t really like them anymore.

    Uh…some of the Narnia books are good, if they’ve never read them. By the end the Christian allegory gets REALLY blatant, though. It’s fine to promote an ethos in your writing, but when the symbolism gets THAT obvious it almost becomes insulting. It’s like…dude, I got your point. Aslan is Jesus. Also, because it was written back in the 50s…the books get kind of racist at the end. He makes kind of a big deal out of the Narnians and other good people being white and blonde and the bad people to the south being darker skinned. It was kind of uncomfortable to read, frankly.

  255. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Thanks Whozat. Start season 2 soon. I hope Starbuck does not get too annoying for me – she has just enough edge right now for me.

  256. mird March 24th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    anyone read dragonlance, or anything by weis? or the dark tower series…

  257. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Whozat: Tolkien’s got a great story but a) while I can handle it, the writing gets REALLY archaic by the end and it reads more like a history text than a novel, especially if you get to the Silmarrilion, and 2) Lord of the Rings is very clean cut. The Silmarillion is much more adult though.

    I personally love Neil Gaiman, he writes urban fantasy. Didn’t get too much into Dune, and I haven’t read as much Terry Pratchett as I’d like, especially in light of the news of his Alzheimer’s.

  258. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    I’m more into book club tonight because the sound doesn’t work on my computer, so I’m not really following the game.

    I loved Enders Game, and also Kress. I tried a couple of Eddings, but wasn’t into it.

    My favorites at the moment are C.J. Cherryh and Lois McMaster Bujold – both do science fiction and fantasy. Ever tried them?

  259. longtime March 24th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    I’m out of here till the next game book club has lost me

  260. nyyfaninlaaland March 24th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    Well, I don’t think what we saw from Karstens in ’07 is indicative of his true ability. And it’s not necessarily fair to just select their ’07 numbers – Karstens was pretty effective in ’06, as was Rasner in a smaller sample then.

    But I agree you’re looking at likely a high 4 ERA – which is good enough from a long reliever / spot starter. Same for Rasner. He was really tough luck in ’07 and a bit untrusted early, but the early season was a scramble for wins that wouldn’t come. Let’s agree both had bad luck in ’07 – but hopefully both will help in ’08 in whatever role. That Rasner’s not on the 40 man – which is full with only Sanchez as a possible 60 DL to open a spot – is a disadvantage for him.

    Also I agree SJ that Patterson’s a stretch – always was given his AA ceiling. Karstens problem is he’s running out of time to reverse things. He’ll could get some innings against Fla. – Pettitte needs work and I’m sure Moose would like a majors outing, but maybe Phil could work a minors game giving Rasner and Karstens a slot to work. Running out of innings with lots of pitchers to see.

  261. george March 24th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    whozat, “The Horse and his Boy”book of the Narnia series showed that it wasn’t a ‘white is good’mindset.

    and you’re killing me w/Tolkien’s ‘verbose style’. he did write a lot of descriptions, but not enough of it for my tastes. ‘verbose’ to me means a writer is wasting words; i found Tolkien to be the opposite, very poetic.

  262. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    “Whozat – I’ve discoved SF/Fantasy as an adult–I think I missed out on a lot as a teen (other than Wrinkle in Time). Harry Potter has changed that for a generation of readers, I think.”

    I liked Harry Potter. I didn’t really like the 7th one that much, but she created some characters I really liked for several books, and that was cool.

    I do hope that kids get put onto reading in general as a result of them. That’d be good :-)

  263. Brandon (supporting the new movement "Alex being Alex") March 24th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

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  264. desti(NY) 2008 March 24th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Show me a team with pitchers focusing on 1st pitch strikes, stingy with walks and quality starts combined with timely hitting and I’ll show you a team destined to be in the World Series.

  265. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    I was really disappointed with book seven. Much to much camping out in the woods, doing nothing.

    I LOVED book five, though.

  266. Brandon (supporting the new movement "Alex being Alex") March 24th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

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  267. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    does anybody else find it hard to get much done this time of the year- the end of ST is here and opening day is imminent..i just have trouble focusing on other things. i mean i’ve got things to do like renew my car registration and a couple big assignments, gotta start scheduling for fall classes to name a few…but i just can’t get to it because i’ve got baseball on the mind 24-7. i mean, i sit through my classes and write projected rosters over and over…list how many player’s 07 stats i can remember of the top of my head…just can’t focus on other things!

  268. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    Rebecca,

    I read the first Potter but wasn’t a fan.

    A Wrinkle in Time – I thought those were so cool when I was a kid.

  269. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    i loved ” a horse and his boy” as a kid. i guess i didn’t know any better

  270. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    “I personally love Neil Gaiman, he writes urban fantasy. Didn’t get too much into Dune, and I haven’t read as much Terry Pratchett as I’d like, especially in light of the news of his Alzheimer’s.”

    I’ve read something by Gaiman, but I can’t remember what. I’ve never read any of the Dune books, and I read one Pratchett book and liked it a lot. Never read more, not really sure why. I should.

    “My favorites at the moment are C.J. Cherryh and Lois McMaster Bujold – both do science fiction and fantasy. Ever tried them?”

    More names to try, once that pesky PhD is done.

    “whozat, “The Horse and his Boy”book of the Narnia series showed that it wasn’t a ‘white is good’mindset.”

    I dunno about that. Yes, there were a few non-white people that were good in that book, but I just feel like having most of the dark-skinned people be, essentially, satanists was very telling. And, he makes a point in the end of having one guy from down south show that he’s a good person, and he gets to go to “Aslan’s Country” anyway, despite not believing in Aslan. But there’s a lot of language in the 6th and 7th books that talks about how white the northerners are, and it just seemed like the letting-one-swarthy-guy-into-heaven thing was a real afterthought. It was a different time; I’m not saying that Lewis is a bad person or anything. I’m just saying that was what I saw when I re-read them over last Christmas break.

    “and you’re killing me w/Tolkien’s ‘verbose style’. he did write a lot of descriptions, but not enough of it for my tastes. ‘verbose’ to me means a writer is wasting words; i found Tolkien to be the opposite, very poetic.”

    Oh, I like reading Tolkein. But, for a 14-year old, the poetic nature of the prose might be a bit much.

  271. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Whozat – I know with my daughter, age 11, that Harry Potter has gotten her completely into SF and fantasy. She also reads ridiculous girl-y books (Clique, etc.), but I attibute all the reading to Rowling. I haven’t gotten to the 7th book yet.

    My brother discovered reading with Tolkien, and he reads all you refer to. He’s way more into it than I am.

    Congrats to all Knick fans. Sounds like great news.

  272. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    good inning for hawkins.

  273. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Brian,

    I have that problem all season, plus the hot stove season – so pretty much all year. :)

  274. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    “i loved ” a horse and his boy” as a kid. i guess i didn’t know any better”

    Guys, I’m not saying this is a bad book. The Last Battle I thought wasn’t really very good, though. But that was because the allegory just got really obvious and repetitive.

  275. george March 24th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    Brian, definitely. i spent a 1/2 hour last nite concocting a spreadsheet of projected starts and IP by Yankee pitchers, assuming around 1450 total IP, etc. interesting, but if my wife knew i was doing that, she’d probably respect it more if i were downloading porn. :)

  276. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    that must make things pretty tough clare, haha. i only get it toward the end of spring training, and for some reason- i can’t quite pinpoint why exactly- but also in late september and most of october.

  277. mird March 24th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    i brew beer, play oblivion, burn candles, and watch baseball

  278. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    “My brother discovered reading with Tolkien,”

    Yeah, I read my dad’s copy of the Lord of the Rings when I was young. I liked reading when I was little, all the Ramona books and stuff. But I think those transitioned me to grownup books.

  279. Motown Yankee Fan March 24th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Thanks for all the great commenting tonight about books everyone.

    I have a date with a treadmill in a few hours and must turn in.

    I hope all of you non-readers weren’t too annoyed by this chatter.

  280. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    George- lol. that reminds me of this scene i saw in some movie that someone at my house had on, i don’t know what it was. i just remember some woman suspected her husband was cheating on her and she followed him one night when he snuck out. she went into the house he was in and caught him with a group of middle aged guys doing a fantasy baseball draft, lol. she was more pissed than if he was cheating.

  281. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    whozat,

    Since we’re all over the place topic-wise tonight – what’s your thesis on?

  282. MikeEff ( Shelley: Everyday ) March 24th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    as a jewish child i had no idea that there was any kind of christian allegories going on. i just thought it was a lion…

    you know, like someone said..sometimes a cigar is only a cigar…

  283. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    “Since we’re all over the place topic-wise tonight – what’s your thesis on?”

    I’m in Computer Science. Do you really want to know?

    :-)

  284. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Big Tolkien fan here – it never really led me to other sci/fi fantasy authors though.
    My nephews are into it but my neice has a Gollum phobia dating back to 2000 when her dad read them the Hobbit.

  285. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    well awesome. i listened to all but two innings of this game so far. the two i skipped, the yankees scored 10 runs.

  286. Kelli in Conn. March 24th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    Shelley Duncan injects fire and personality into a team he obviously loves to be part of.
    Any questions ?

  287. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    George
    THAT was funny.

  288. AS2008 March 24th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    These announcers are terrible!! I can’t stand listening to them. I’m better off reading the recap after the game!!

  289. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    full circle this all started with rebecca’s thesis

  290. mird March 24th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    does shelley inject that fire and personality into the players butts? or is that vitamin b…

  291. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    whozat: All of Gaiman’s books are different, so I can tell you which one you read, probably:

    There was Stardust, the one about the village of Wall and the land of Faery, where Tristan tries to bring a star back to Victoria,

    Neverwhere, in which you never look at the Tube in London the same way again,

    American G-ds, which is heavily based on various mythologies, especially Norse…

  292. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Kelli

    No. no questions.. you pretty much summed it up.

  293. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    did i just hear the name Googy Dawkins?

  294. RayBlay March 24th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    gooky.. but yes

  295. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    my bad, i looked it up. it’s Gookie…. for a second there i thought he had a really funny name.

  296. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    whozat,

    Sure, I won’t understand it, but why not?

  297. Brian from PA March 24th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    ok im done for the night. Phil did better tonight. Yankees pitchers really racked up some K’s tonight too. nice. later all.

  298. Nettles vs. Lee March 24th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Brian –

    That scene was from Knocked Up. I laughed pretty hard during that scene – my wife couldn’t understand why it was so funny.

  299. Jimmy 27 March 24th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    LET’S GO A’s!!!

  300. Greg Cohen March 24th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Who’s pitching for the Yanks tomorrow?

  301. Marc from Portland March 24th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Norse mythology was the most limited of all of them, but Gaimen added a lot to it in American Gods. Gaiman started in comics with his Sandman series and it’s well worth checking out.

  302. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 March 24th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    I have 1+2 of Absolute Sandman. They’re among my most treasured posessions.

  303. YankeeJosh March 24th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Some skinny Panamanian right-hander is pitching. Seems to cut his fastball.

    I really like this kid. I hope he makes the team! ;-)

  304. Marc from Portland March 24th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    I loved mythology as i was growing up Rebecca. Greek, roman, and norse was my favs. I read the Ilad and the odessey when i was 15 and I loved them. I recently found some books by Dan Simmons that were great reading about the trojan war, but are sience fiction. Olympos and Ilium. The first is a bit tedius but the second is great. It ahs a lot of content that anyone interested in Homer would love.

  305. whozat March 24th, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    “Neverwhere”

    That one.

    “Sure, I won’t understand it, but why not?”

    Ok.

    Oftentimes, in various settings (academia, financial institutions, health care, the power grid), we see individuals who don’t know each other needing to build a trust relationship. I need you to do something sensitive for me (release a patient record, tell me the status of some equipment, alter the state of some equipment, whatever), but you don’t know me.

    What do we do?

    Well, right now, either I ask you and you assume everything’s ok and do it — which is potentially very, very bad as things move more on-line and cyberterrorism becomes more prevalent — or, I leverage some personal relationships to get you to trust me. I call my college buddy who works with you, or my a lady I used to work with that works with your boss now or something like that. That’s how things work in the real world. Computer Scientists don’t normally deal well with things like that. It’s fuzzy. You can’t reason cleanly about it. You can’t describe it with stuff that looks like math and prove things about it.

    I, however, find it extremely interesting. Who the hell cares if your system is elegant and provably correct if it prevents people from doing the things they do every day just to get their jobs done. It’s not “provably secure” if people have to turn it off just to do their work, is it?

    So, what I’m doing is building a system that allows people to assert stuff about each other, and then bind those assertions to email they send. So, essentially, it allows people to vouch for each other in a verifiable way. I send a message to you and attach to it this credential from someone we both know. Perhaps it says we’re friends, or that we’re co-workers, or that I’m specifically allowed to ask you to do things A, B and C. Doesn’t matter. I send my message, I attach these extra statements, and your email client presents them to you and _you_ decide what the right thing to do is. It doesn’t tell you what to do, it doesn’t pop up a gajillion annoying dialogs…_you_ know what kinds of people you trust for certain things. I’m just building a system that will provide me with a way to give you extra information when you’re trying to decide whether to trust me or not.

  306. Clare March 24th, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    whozat,

    I was out for a while, so just catching up, and that sounds really, really cool.

    One of my favorite things in sci-fi (and one that Cherryh does really well, BTW) is how changing technology changes culture and society. So your thesis is intriguing.

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