They’ll try it again tomorrow
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Not much to tell you. Same pitchers, same lineup tomorrow. “Sometimes it rains,” Derek Jeter said.
Brian Cashman said the weather forecast indicated rain through tomorrow afternoon, hence the decision to play tomorrow night.
Here’s Joe Girardi’s brief post-rainout press conference:
Chien-Ming Wang didn’t have much of a birthday to celebrate. But the Taiwanese media did get him a small cake.
So much for Opening Day. We’ll try it again tomorrow.
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“Sometimes it rains,” Derek Jeter said.
Jeter also added that “Baseball may be a religion full of magic, cosmic truth, and the fundamental ontological riddles of our time, but it’s also a job.”
Hell, maybe I’ll pop Bull Durham in. Though the Tigers and Royals have taken their clash to extras… and who can miss Hendrickson-Santana?
HENDRICKSON
Yet the radar is clear and showed that the rain would be over this afternoon. Makes no sense to not wait it out today.
Im surprised Girardi let the Taiwanese media in with that cake. surely nobody was allowed to eat any of it.
not even god wants to see yankee stadium go…
I am going to be very sad this season
Miguel Cabrera will win it with a walk off homer, write that on your foreheads!
Argh! I used a sharpie to write it!
who is this leo nunez?
who is this leo nunez?
sugar = public enemy #1
so says, Drill Sgt. Girardi
let’s go Joe Buck!
I’m SO bummed. Just got back from the stadium
It was never even raining there
ridiculous!!!
Tony Pena Jr!!!!
5-4 KC
Tony Pena must feel proud
Tony Jr. comes through for the Yankees!
Joe Buck scores! yay
Yay Tony Pena Jr!!!! Dad must be very proud - hope he’s getting to watch it instead of sitting in traffic on his way home from the Stadium, lol.
how soon do the Detroit papers start freaking out about the bullpen? (or have they been all along)
I dunno. Somehow, an ice cream vending machine just doesn’t scream “Winning is Everything.” It’s too green tea, too Grandpa Joe. These are supposed to be men, gosh darn it, chaw chewing, tobacco spittin’ slayers of dragons and winners of divisions.
They can have all the ice cream they want after they win the World Series.
Mike I also just back home you must have been at a different stadium then me i gotthere about 945AM it started raining, like mist. around 11 it started a bit heavier and did not stop until about 215. It again is like a mist. I am freezing cold, my pants, jacket and hat are soaked.
I thought they would gt it in but when I saw Girardi and Cashman come on the field then there was no quickening of the pace in terms of plaers or grounds crew movin I knew they would not play the game.
However perhaps the people who are reading the weather maps for the stadium need to read them a bit better as from about 230 until now there is almost nothing. {erhaps the field was too wet who knows but I think they could have gotten it in. Now i hear it will rain all afternoon tomorrow so it will be worse conditions.
ALso although getting in the stadium and parking when I got there was great no issues. Getting out was a different story all together took me almost 2 hours to get home (including exiting the parking lot) for a ride that takes 35 minutes (including parking) getting in.
Finally can someone find out where the game will be broadcast tomorrow as the Nets are scheduled for YES and i need to set the Tivo
can they donate the ice cream machine to the Sox?
Papi and Schilling wouldn’t mind.
lets go Soria…
looked like a good closer the 2nd half of last season.
It appears so though they will show the Yankee game
http://web.yesnetwork.com/schedule/index.jsp?ymd=20080401
Is ESPN seriously cutting away from a one run, bottom-of-the-11th game to a game in the top of the 1st? So frustrating!
Nah mahn, Manny no eat Ice cream. Manny in contract year.
http://web.yesnetwork.com/teams/schedule.jsp?oid=36318
Looks like they moved the nets to upn 9.
Oh nevermind.
holy crap look at the field condition they’re playing w/ in Wrigley
Gayle I guess I will be taking the ferry in
So much for my pregame ritual. 
Boston Dave
March 31st, 2008 at 4:35 pm
can they donate the ice cream machine to the Sox?
Papi and Schilling wouldn’t mind.
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LOL BD… neither would El Fatolo Calzone (Bartolo Colon) !!!
I just read they built three new McDonalds in Pawtucket, and an Olive Garden is going up soon. El Fatolo heaven !!!!!!!
This Cubs/Brewers game is shaping up to be a pitcher’s duel… Gotta love the Z.
I read, think it was MLBtraderumors.com, a few months back, (sorry, no link, it just stood in my mind) that the NYY would be a possible destination if Sheets becomes a free agent.
Scared me to no end… didn’t the Yanks go down this road in 05? Except instead of Sheets, it was Pavano and Wright?
Isn’t Sheets ALWAYS injured? I don’t care if he’s 29 or not… If they spend $$$ on free agent picthing next year, I hope its for CC Sabathia, not Sheets…
gayle,
You’d think they’d have the sense to pre-empt the Nets game. Unless ESPN’s running it…Blah…
Alex Gordon what a play !
bronxbomber,
i forgot all about Colon!
ANNNNNNDDD THE ROYALS WIN!
“Best line up in the American League”
“Favorites to win the AL Wild Card/AL Central”
shiitfield on pace to at least 640 walks this season WoW.
Whew. That was close. KC’s had Detroit’s number for a couple of years now. Congrats to Tony Jr.
Just thought Id share this with you all…
One of my close friends is in the fish tank business, he has alot of high profile clients and just installed a fish tank in Jorge Posadas upper east side home. He was there all day today and he just sent me a picture of he and Jorge posing in front of the fish tank……Jorge looks like he is wearing a kimono, kinda weird, but whatever. The only bad thing about it, is my friend is a Mets fan and he hates the yankees.
YAY ROYALS!!!
Jennifer like I said getting in was easy getting out was a pain now mind you pretty much everyone left at the same time as it was not until they called the game so that may have had something to do with it. In all the games I have been to I have never had that kind of problem.
Tomorrow night I am taking the subway in from the city asI will have to leave from work and it doesnt make sense to drive
bronxbomber,
sheets is a definite risk. beckett, was also injured often. its a tough call and will depend on what some other team is willing to offer (in terms of years and total $).
the A’s still want a ton for Rich Harden and he’s always hurt. i am guessing sheets either stays with Milwaukee or some team overpays and gives him the money/years he’d get if he were never injured… who knows.
Barry Zito’s fastball is 84 MPH on FSN. The Giants only have him signed for 6 more years including 2008.
And Kent just took him yard. Ha!
Is Barry Zito done?
it was funny running into this:
“Stuff People at ESPN Like
- Red Sox
- Groping
- Duke
- Boo-yahs
- Ultimate Highlights
- Hot Seats
- Poetry Jams
- Interns
- LeBron
- Toupees”
http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2008/03/stuff-athletes.html
if Zito weren’t filthy rich, I’d feel bad for him.
he seems like a good guy, he just can’t pitch anymore.
god the zito deal looks worse and worse every day
Listening to Girardi’s postgame but do you think the women from Taiwan would have a better question to ask as the second/third question of the press conference than to say now they have more time to celebrate Wangs birthday?
jesus Barry Zito looks like SH**
Nice weather in Cali and Florida. Mean while in the North-East……
… and the former Big Three (Mulder, Zito, Hudson) becomes the Big Nothing.
ESPN and ESPN2 is like all baseball all the time today!
Sunny and 63 degrees with a 3-0 lead in the bottom of the 1st in LA. Bet Torre isn’t missing the Bronx right about now.
and that’s the funny thing–you’d think Zito would clean up in a AAAA league.
3-0 1 OUT ZTIO IS AWFUL!!
Getting back to our numbers discussion of yesterday. Hawkins is going to wear #21. Guess he didnt get the memo although I repsect his wanting to wear it to honor Clemente.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080331&content_id=2469353&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
Lastings Milledge just blasted one…
poor Mets
Rob,
Hudson is still a good pitcher.. but yes.
Saucy
They forgot on that list:
Patriots
Celtics
any team playing the Yankees
unprofessionalism
Who’s Now
Hansbrough
David Ortiz
Tom Brady
I’m in Jersey. So I really have no options for public trans to get to the stadium. The thought of taking the train into the city than the subway. UGH! Or driving to the gw to take the ferry and only getting to the game 30 minutes prior to the game starting makes me want to
I’ve always left 11;00 for a 1pm game, but now that doesn’t seem early enough.
Off topic, but anyone see this?!?! Mad Dog Russo picking his nose. Amazing:
http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2008/03/mad-dog-clearly.html
Jennifer I usually leave around 10am for the 1pm games and that has been fine. SOmething I do to avoid some of the trafdfic is when you get off the GW take HarlemRiver drive and get off at 155 street exit (the first one) rather than take the Major Deegan. Once at the exit make a left at the light then just take the McComb Bridge straight across much easier and you avoid the Deegan
“Sometimes it rains,” Derek Jeter said.
Jeter also added that “Baseball may be a religion full of magic, cosmic truth, and the fundamental ontological riddles of our time, but it’s also a job.”
Ha!
Are the stairs back on the pedestian bridge? When I was there in Jan they were gone!
Zito = Curse of Alyssa Milano.
Add Brad Penny to that list, Carl Pavano, etc.
interesting tidbit on Santana he once was an OF and then was converted into a pitcher, same thing happened to Wilkin De La Rosa in our farmsystem so who knows a secondary pitch and a fastball can work wonders.
J-Train,
Kimono? Ugh. Add to list of rather not visualize.
I hope your friend doesn’t try to poison the fish.
And I also hope that your Asian car fetish comment in the last post was a reference to Tokyo Drift and that’s not really what you think. lol.
bronxbomber77
I think you might be on to something. Give her Becketts and paplebutts number.
AL teams with domed venues include Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Toronto.
Warm weather teams include the Angels, Rangers, and A’s.
The Twins host the Angels later today.
Schedules could be made up in a fair and revolving way each year similar to the opponent or division changes each year other than the normal divisional rivals.
For example, this year the Yankees host the Twins once but visit Minnesota twice.
The Yankees visit Cleveland once and play them at home for one series. After May 8th the Yankees are done with Cleveland for the year unless they meet in the playoffs.
Ludicrous ???
Wait Milano dated all those guys?
I have to retract my prediction that she an Jeter would get together.
Jeter and Kim Jones - she seems down to earth
gayle. I was at the same stadium as you. I arrived at noon and at no time was it ever more than sprinkling
I’m still shocked that they didn’t play as it is still dry in NYC
Mel,
you should know my sense of humor by now..of course I was joking. =)
Jay,
You can add NCAA everything to list of things ESPN loves…The J Train would rather watch a lifetime movie marathon than watch one minute of any college sports.
Zito:SF as Pavano:NYY
LOL Johan is gonna throw a no hitter opening day
Mike- I’m shocked too. It looks cloudy but not rainy in midtown. I don’t undertstand!!
“Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose… sometimes… it rains….”
Lovin the Crash Davis ref… maybe ill pop in Bull Durham too Matt
and why must I be subjected to waiting 17 hours to check a baseball score on a Saturday during the college football season. Does anyone really care what Alhammer U did against South Harmon Institute of Technology?
Brandon BITE YOUR TONGUE!! That is all we would need. This place would be crawling with trolls.
All mets fans at the Marlins home game lol
Mike I agree that by now they could have gotten it in but I can tell you based on how soaked my attire is it for sure was raining up until about 215, was it pouring no but it was a steady water. Like I said in my post I think they need better people reading the forecasts as since 215 it has not rained other than a light mist and Girardi even said the field was not an issue so they were seeing either a bad forecast or were not reading what they had correctly.
I think the bridge is still gone and oh by the way no more meeting at the bat as they have that bl0cked off as well.
The best thing about today as sitting in the rain was not walking up on 161st street and seeing the new stadium
Is it just me, or is college basketball downright awful? I was forced to watch some of that red team with del curry’s kid on it against some other ass team and it was just painful to see how awful the players are.
I hate watching the Mets win… depressing.
jennifer: You know Brandon’s doing his best to jinx it.
“Is it just me, or is college basketball downright awful?”
yes, it’s just you.
am I Rebecca
I mean seriously this Marlins team is playing like a H.S. team vs Johan, I’d say a no no could be in the bag
Going by how weak most NL lineups are, I wouldn’t be surprised if Santana has 4 or 5 no-hitters.
Chi Sox tie it up
Fleas should be watching this w/ randyhater later on they’ll use it as a sample game. I’ll be back peoples
yahoo won’t let me replace any of the yankees in my fantasy line-up, the same way you can’t move players who’s games have been played. meanwhile, Thome is sittin on my bench.
hmmmm,
I guess Im the only one that doesnt enjoy watching a bunch of kids chuck up ill advised shots for 40 minutes and turning the ball over every other possession. Or watching a team win 68 to 30 or 26 to 19. College basketball is horrible.
seriously, what do most college basketball teams average for FG%, its got to be around 25%
Check out the Cleveland box score.
Ugh. Just got back from the stadium. It took us three hours to get in from Morris County and find a parking spot. My advice to all who drive in: leave enough time to find parking (and then leave half an hour before that). What a mess! I’m driving into the Port Authority and parking for tomorrow’s game. No driving to the Bronx on a weekday anymore.
Mark Hendrickson is real good. How many fastballs right down the middle is he going to throw?
mel: I did.
Just got back from the Stadium as well… too bad it got canceled because the weather shaped up, but there was one upside! I was in no hurry so I went to chill over at the players parking lot with all the regulars over there, and Shelley, who was leaving last, came and signed and talked a little bit. He seems like a good guy. Also, the Taiwanese fans waited forever just so they could sing happy birthday to Wang, which was cute. : ) Tomorrow’s forecast is horrible, but here’s hoping we get Opening Day on the second try.
To hell with you Jimmy 27 and to hell with Jeter too. ME and Kim Jones
By the way, in case any of you want to know what Jeter’s gonna say next, try this site:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094812/quotes
perfect game over
Murphdog-
to hell with the Yankees, let’s get pete to do an interview with Kim!
The weather forecast looks terrible tomorrow. So what happens if tomorrow’s another no go…does it become a make-up game end of the season? If so won’t the people who paid $$$ for 9/21 tickets on Stubhub be kinda screwed since it won’t be the last game at the stadium?
Murphydog - go for it.
Maybe we can double - I’ll take Nancy Newman
Jimmy 27:
Just so it’s clear. I’m not really angry at you, OK? Just kidding.
Kim’s been looking pretty good lately, no?
no, no-no
!
Phil and Cashman can breathe now. Santana has an ERA. There will be no (insert non-offensive synonym for lynching here) of Cashman.
Ava: That sounds awesome! I’m jealous!
Shouldn’t they stop that inning in Philadelphia? A 6-6 game’s become a 10-6 game in the top of the 9th and they’ve still got men on base. Just play the bottom half already.
Hold on-people can’t meet at the bat anymore?????
Watch Kim’s interviews with the Captain. Jetes melts and does a meek job of hiding it.
Just checked Indians score. Victor Martinez pulled a hammie. Who gave up most of the runs for Cleveland?
Ava -
Sounds like you had a good day in spite of the weather, thanks to Shelley and Happy Birthday CMW!
Murphdog- I know - all good dog.
Kim is very pretty and seems really cool - she really is good on the fan with the continent
Kelli -
I think it’s the opposite. I think Kim melts and Jeter teases her. But it is sweet, I think. It’s the only time he cracks a smile during an interview. I don’t think there’s anything real there, though.
Kelli is that on the Fan site or yes?
hahaha did you see that terrible throw castillo made…
robby wouldnt be caught dead…
Remembering last year they have a great rapport
Also Im watching HD baseball for the first time since george bush bought me a new flat screen haha.
And its spectacular.
Jimmy -
The YES site for your jealous curiosity.
Doreen,
they are calling VMart day-to-day but it wouldnt be a surprise if he misses some time.
kinda sounds like the start of the 2007 Yankees season.
Derek Jeter article in Men’s Health:
http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=fitness&category=sports&conitem=c295eb53bd0a8110VgnVCM20000012281eac____
Technically, the Rays have 1st place to themselves in the AL East.
Also, found the box score. CC struck out 7 in 5.1, but, allowed 5 runs. SOs can be overrated, no? I mean, a guy can strike out the side every time, but if he allows runs to score in between outs, not such a big deal.
Johan in a little trouble. 2 on, 1 out. Hanley on deck.
“Zito:SF as Pavano:NYY”
At least Zito pitches. Horribly but at least he pitches.
Doreen,
Sabathia gave up 5 of the runs.
strikeouts can def be overrated. the difference with a strikeout is that it can never be a productive out so over the course of the season they should help prevent some runs.
hey pete,
any word on what time pre-game ceremonies will start tomorrow night. i was at the stadium all day and going back tomorrow night..weather permitting! if you find anything out please let us know as soon as possible! thanks!
trouble in paradise already for Kerry Wood
white sox have had so many opps (like bases loaded nobody out) to take the lead but keep blowing it.
cleveland is gonna win this game.
Thanks Kelli
SO a Johan win + a Yankee rainout pretty much = Cashman getting fired tonight, right?
The Rays are sitting in 1st place in the AL East.
Rishi =
Thanks for that link. I loved, loved, loved reading that article. It capsulized what most people who like Derek Jeter like about him. His dad sounds a lot like my father-in-law and I think my husband will get a chuckle out of that part of the article.
Women’s Health mag had a much shorter blurb from the article. Glad to have the opportunity to see the meatier work!!
Santana just got 2 strikeouts to get out of trouble.
So like most stats, cumulative stats are less meaningful than situational ones viewed in context.
Does that sound conviluted to you guys? I don’t know how to word it.
How about this. Some strikeouts are more meaningful than others!
Derek and Kim seem to taunt each other more than flirt with each other.
She’s also about 15 years older than the ladies Jeter has been reported to date.
No problem - did you have a chance to see the video? that will have to wait ’til later for me.
octavio dotel…. blowing games over the next 2 seasons for a mere $11M
gagne will only be blowing games for 1 year and $10M
i’m still sad that the game was canceled.
what a huge bummer. something felt off about my day since the start, i guess i felt it coming. some sort of big disappointment.
oh well, at least with the rescheduled time i’ll get to see the whole game uninterrupted tomorrow. that is, if it is actually played.
WOO, 25 HOURS UNTIL OPENING DAY GUYS!
Gagne is gagging. Another deal that Cashman didn’t make. Same with Zito.
Fukodome!
Rishi -
Same here
Oh my gosh! Fukudome just hit a 3-run HR in the bottom of hte 9th to tie the game!
Three-plus hours and counting of no rain … So much for the forecast not looking promising (according to Jim Hall at a little before 2 p.m. today). Why can’t Lonn Trost, Randy Levine, and the rest of them just admit they played all the fans simply to get people to buy more $6 hot dogs and $9.50 beers? They’re nothing but a bunch of liars who can’t be trusted. After all, what good would playing the game today do (given the three-plus hour window without rain in the late afternoon) when you can squeeze the fans for more of the same tomorrow night. Pete, it’s about time you and rest of the beat writers start calling Trost, Levine, and the rest of the non-baseball people on this. They’re getting a free ride here while screwing the fans day in and day out. How about their closing half the entrance turnstiles today at gate 4 (the one immediately to the first-base side of the team store behind home plate). Real smart idea on Opening Day! Of course, they knew no game would actually be played today (despite having Sterling get on the jumbo screen around 1 p.m. and say there was a supposed post-2 p.m. window), so why pay for the extra staff?
Am I the only one wondering why there’s no retractable roof on the new stadium? Has to be because Trost, et al. want more day like this. Between March/April days like today (before it cleared up) and 90-degree days in the summer that are part of the foul-weather climate in NY, it would seem like a no-brainer. It’s amazing the Commissioner’s office doesn’t mandate that for all new parks outside of San Diego.
Reminiscent of Hideki, no?
not a good day for bullpens. borowski making it interesting in Cleveland…
Mel -
I totally understand what you’re saying. (about situational strikeouts vs. cumulative stats)
Holy Gagne - what was that! That Fukodome - looking like a good investment so far
Hu’s on second for the Dodgers?
I dont know how Gagne suckered $10M out of the Brewers. did anybody actually bid close to that? I figure he’d get some incentive-laden offers or offers in the $5-6M range.
look, the SF Giants are trying to score. how cute.
Just in case anyone is interested there are tickets available for the rescheduled opener tomorrow night. Check out www.yankees.com if you are interested.
Someone probably answered this already, but why did the Nationals play at home last night and today they are in Philly?????
Fukudome is an easy choice for NL ROY.
Welcome in Scott Proctor
Jeremy,
slow down there
i personally dont think pro players from other countries should be elgible for ROY if they come to MLB anyway.
Is it Scott?
Torre looks pretty trim. Or Brad Penny is bigger than I thought.
So far, no mis-pronunciation with Kosuke Fukudome. The clock is ticking . . . . . .
If I recall correctly, when it was Hideki Matsui of the NYY who had a great “rookie” year, there was lots of talk about he he wasn’t “really” a rookie. I do agree with that, but I think it will sure stink if Fukudome goes on to have a great year and gets serious consideration for ROY.
UPDATE,
Musberger did mispronounce it… but maybe not the way you’re probably referring to
Well, I just checked the 2003 voting. Matsui lost by only 4 votes, but there was a lot of discussion that he should not get it. (Angel Berroa won)
Doreen,
I think you’re right about Hideki. It defeats the purpose of rewarding a rookie. Change it to “newcomer of the year” if that’s the case. All of these guys are developed and established players, even if it’s not against MLB competition.
If you listen to Bobby Valentine, Japanese players are better than MLB anyway
I believe Matsui lost to Angel Berroa precisely because a few voters thought Matsui should not be eligible and did not vote for him. Berroa rode his ROY to a lucrative contract that the Royals soon came to regret immensely.
Gagne sporting a nifty 40.50 ERA…Wait, dropped to 27.00 with that last out.
They’re going to grind Johan into the ground. He’s at 100 pitches already. I guess he’s stretched out already. Do they not have any relievers?
Looking at Berroa’s rookie stats, he was not undeserving, at least.
So, did Scott Proctor get the call in the Dodger game? I missed it.
I just realized that the Rays are in first place. See, guys? Spring does mean something.
Not a bad debut for Santana with the Mets. I know some of you don’t want to hear that, though.
Mel –
OH NO!!!!!!
Just got home from work…So let me see if I got this straight…
1. Yanks “rained” out.
2. Santana a winner.
3. Gagne a loser.
4. V. Martinez out with a hammy for ?
5. Joe T. brings in Proctor - what a surprise.
Did I miss anything else?
Looks like the Cubs are going to spoil Fukudome’s great day.
And Scotty P. walked a guy!
Gagne gets a win?????
I just hope Reggie still throws first pitch tomorrow…and that Bob Sheppard will be back VERY SOON…
What’s with Gagne? Are we lucky Cash didn’t bite on him last summer.
I mean, it’s great his team picked him up, but those kinds of wins shouldn’t be wins for the guy who blew a lead to begin with. I know, it’s a slippery slope…
The Cubs lost that one?
Eric Bedard gives up a run in the first
Bedard off to a tough start for Seattle…
Bedard’s horrible spring continues. His attitude’s been really weird in Seattle. He seems to be not too prepared to be the ace of a contender.
Doreen - Didn’t Ichiro win the Rookie of the Year and he played in Japan for a number of years before coming here. Boston Dave is right - maybe there should be another award for the players coming here after playing in other countries.
As for Santana - if he could not defeat the Marlins then he’s in trouble.
Doreen,
a terrific start for Santana. Of course Florida has 2-3 MLB caliber hitters so it’s not a true test, but Johan still got them out.
The question is, what’s the official definition of ‘rookie’, according to the MLB
From Wiki
Who qualifies as a rookie?
To qualify for the award a player must exceed neither of the following, before the season under consideration:
130 at bats or 50 innings pitched in the major leagues
45 days on the active roster of a major league club (excluding time on the disabled list or any time after rosters are expanded on September 1)
mel,
I think Bedard was a little peeved about his contract situation, perhaps? Maybe he wants a long term deal? who knows if he is happy/unhappy with Seattle in general.
I can’t imagine he’s unhappy to get out of Baltimore.
WOW– That Cubs game was great. Too bad I have Wood in my FL. But, watching Kosuke Fukudome play is like watching a Matsui/Ichiro clone.
I LOVE OPENING DAY (on American soil, that is…).
Blargh/Jimmy,
if they change major leagues to “professional baseball”, it would make more sense to me. MLB isn’t going to rush to rule out Japanese players from this award because of $$$
3 Japanese players have won ROY = Hideo Nomo in 1995, Kazuhiro Sasaki in 2000 and of course Ichiro in 2001. So, they really had no reason to deny Matsui in 2003, except that he was a NYY imo.
Definition of a rookie, or qualifications (according to Wikipedia):
130 at bats or 50 innings pitched in the major leagues
45 days on the active roster of a major league club (excluding time on the disabled list or any time after rosters are expanded on September 1)
Mel Stottlemyre as pitching coach of the Mariners looks odd.
FSN Northwest.
http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/mlb/index
Please take the poll at the bottom. The results are skewed right now. Go unskew them please.
The tricky part about changing the wording from ‘Major Leagues’ to ‘professional baseball’ is an implied equality in one way or another
Well, I’m glad that I have Fukudome on my fantasy team…
Mel
That was weird. I mean I understand NY, NJ & CT, but New Mexico & Utah??!!!! What’s up with that?
Everyone else — go vote in he poll! We have to represent!
I agree that it’s somewhat silly for an accomplished player from another league to win the ROY. I think that a rookie’s experience in another league should weigh against him, but should not disqualify him.
That said, I repeat that Fukudome is a lock for NL ROY because the strength of his season will more than make up for his experience in Japan.
Huh! Blargh, I had just posted the same thing you said, but it didn’t show up. Also, I think if you start messing with that definition it will creep into the way Japanese players are courted and signed.
Blargh,
there doesnt need to be an implied equality.
it just means that someone who has played professionally before is no longer a rookie. Ichiro dominated in Japan for years. then he comes here at age 28 and gets ROY? he wasnt even close to being a rookie.
I did my part and voted.
Gosh Zito sucks.
Boston Dave -
Are the minor leagues considered professional baseball?
Fran, did you check out the country-wide results???
Anyone know if opening day will still show on ESPN?
i voted - I always think it’s funny to see the states and then the “world” where you know that’s mostly all of Canada just lumped together!
Or the independent leagues…or Latin American ball…any league where you get paid to play baseball, really would technically be professional baseball
The implied equality would be saying that spending time elsewhere is somehow still meaningful with respect to MLB
And that gets rolling into the various clauses for salary related to service time
who cares what the country thinks?
it will just make victory even sweeter…
Mel - I did my civic Duty
We really need to vote early and often for All Stars this year- all bets are off - stuff the ballots
Blargh, you are right, there.
I think we’ll just have to realize that everytime that a really good Japanese player comes over and does well, there’s going to be this debate.
Doreen - That was surprising. I would not have picked New Mexico and Utah as Yankee country. I am surprised that Florida did not go for the Yanks since there are so many transplanted New Yorkers there.
Did anyone hear that? The Mets have the best opening day record ever.
Blargh,
I agree… but I do think that playing pro ball elsewhere is meaningful with respect to MLB. How meaningful? Nobody knows. Ask Ichiro. I’m sure he was better when he got to the US than he was as a rookie in Japan. Same with all the others. I don’t think there is much question that given time to be coached, develop, and gain experience in a pro league has to count for something.
Boston Dave -
I don’t so much care what the country thinks - it’s no surprise that they wouldn’t be pro-Yankees. What amused me was that New Mexico and Utah voted Yankees.
I wasn’t paying attention years ago, but if other Japanese players won it, then maybe Hideki suffered Yankee backlash. In that case there would be no debate. Because you can’t win a debate with a moving goal post involved.
Fran,
Yeah! I didn’t notice about Florida.
Mel -
There didn’t seem to be ANY negative discussion when it was Ichiro. I do not recall the others.
I just wanted to point out that wording can be very tricky, especially with the CBA referring to major league service time a few times in it. Pretty hard to change one instance of ‘major league’ being used and not have side effects rippling through everything else.
IMO, less hassle to keep with the current definition of rookie. Which side of the debate I agree with…well, no disclosure on that
I want clarify my earlier comment about Bedard. He did have an awful spring and his attitude was blase. The beat writers were really baffled that he was not concerned at all that he was not as advertised.
If he has a good outing today, then there’s no story there. Just another example of Spring don’t mean *bleep*.
From Rob Neyer’s monster marathon chat:
Nick (Franklin Square, NY): I got into an argument with a friend over which offense was superior: Yankees or Tigers. I think the Tigers are really good, but the Yankees are a shade better. Am I wrong?
Rob Neyer: (7:25 PM ET ) I don’t think you’re wrong. As much as I hate to say it, it looks to me like the Yankees are the best in the AL, Mets the best in the NL.
Ichiro beat out CC Sabathia, who was 17-5 with a 4.39 ERA and 171 strikeouts. The next offensive player in line in 2001 was Alfonso Soriano, but he was nowhere near Ichiro in his stats. Ichiro also won AL MVP that season.
Now, maybe there was no debate because there was no offensive competition, but I think that’s a great year for a rookie pitcher (Sabathia) - I mean, wouldn’t you be disappointed if Phil or Ian puts together a year like that and does not get ROY. And considering he never pitched in “professional” ball, I would think that writers should have given Sabathia more consideration.
So, I think with Hideki there was Yankee backlash. Like with every other award, unless a Yankee is so much better that there’s no question (like ARod last season), they will not win these type of awards (like Jeter in 2006, who got robbed of the MVP, imo).
anyone saw the Dodgers game? Torre’s first bullpen move as manager is of course bringing in Proctor. hehe…All I gotta say is….good luck scott.
I’ll try this again - from the Rob Neyer marathon chat:
Nick (Franklin Square, NY): I got into an argument with a friend over which offense was superior: Yankees or Tigers. I think the Tigers are really good, but the Yankees are a shade better. Am I wrong?
Rob Neyer: (7:25 PM ET ) I don’t think you’re wrong. As much as I hate to say it, it looks to me like the Yankees are the best in the AL, Mets the best in the NL.
Well, at the rate he’s going tonight, Bedard won’t last too long; 68 pitches after 2.2 IP
Only 1 earned run so far (from 1 HR) though…
OMG, Doreen. How long have you been holding that in?
On-field delay. Either Milton Bradley’s gone crazy or Mel’s dusting it up with the umps.
Mel -
I don’t know.
I didn’t even know I was!
I seem to have a lot of time today — got all my chores done in the AM so I could watch the game that didn’t happen.
Fuk-u-do-me is the greatest name since _ _ _ ?
He..Heee
Torre used three relievers to protect a five run lead against a last place team.
Too much.
Fuk-u-do-me is the greatest name since _ _ _ ?
Dick Pole
Countdown -
No fair! It’s the first week of the season and I could definitely see that happening with our very own NYY. Plus, better that he limit Scott Proctor early, no?
Countdown,
It does seem funny, but the box score says Proctor came in with 2 men on, 2 outs and faced two guys but recorded the out. Then two more guys came in and for 1-inning holds.
Poor Torre, he’ll be cursed forever by preconceptions of how to manage a bullpen. Who’s his pitching coach?
Nice for Derek to use that quote -
Indeed; “Sometimes it Rains”
Doreen-
I not trying to be mean, but the Dodgers were home, leading 5-0, against a very weak hitting team. He didn’t need 3 arms to close out the game. He’s going to need those arms in July.
That’s preconceptions of how he manages a bullpen.
Countdown -
I’m just teasing you.
It is going to be very windy tomorrow, how the heck is the weather better for tomorrow night, that it was for today?
http://ul.photoshelter.com/gallery-img-show?G_ID=G0000oTq589PLCS8&V_ID=&P_ID=&start=28&pagtotal=47
cool!
jennifer,
They’re trying to catch lighting in a bottle from the thunderstorms that are forecasted.
I really wanted to see Yankee baseball today, but I’m glad the real games have started.
Countdown,
Are you waiting until tomorrow to change your name? or the Boston series? or the ASB?
Thanks, Jennifer! the one of Joba as a baby and the one with him & his dad/son were especially cute
Can someone explain to me why Torre used Proctor for one guy? He wasn’t due to hit next. if that is the way he is going to manage he is going to burn all his pitchers out by May.
Your welcome. He sure looks like his father.
jennifer,
i believe he faced 2 guys.
Jennifer -
Thanks for that link. Great photos. Rishi, I agree; the side-by-side pictures were the best!
mel-
I may have to wait until thursday
I have an extra ticket to Wednesday’s game and no one can come with me. What the heck?
Boston Dave =
He faced two guys because he walked the first one, which would have loaded the bases, if I remember correctly, before getting the 3rd out.
the rain is actually supposed to stop by the time the game starts its just gunna be really windy
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/vacationplanner/hourbyhour/USNY0172?begHour=8&begDay=92
i would love to go andrea, but we’re going thursday and i guess i’ll be back there tomorrow night unless that gets rained out too.
MikeEff: I’d have no way of getting the tickets to you anyway…I wasn’t really trying to find any takers…just complaining.
Hey,
Does anyone know whats up with the weather, some say its going to be raining at 7…Some say no…
Whats the deal…Do we have a possible second rain out???
Most of the weekend looks ucky, but, I never trust the weather report.
Probably cancel it and play it later in the season.
If they do cancel tomorrow, I’ve got tickets to Wednesday too
The hour by hour for tommorrow for what its worth says:
9am showers
10a-12 noon few showers
12-6 showers/wind
7-9pm mostly cloudy wind
10p few showers
I know that the grounds crew usually seems to know what they are doing but I dont understand today as when i was at the game and looked at weather.com it showed that the weather would be exactly what it has been for the past few hours just cloudy.
Remember this is the same grounds crew that during the playoffs against Detroit 2 years ago saw the weather being horrible that night and cancelled when there was not a drop of rain coming down but they saw a forecast for it. Yes it rained during the pre game stuff but it stopped right after it.
Andrea, you know I’d go if I was close!
We’re on pace to have all 81 home games rained out.
I’m telling you, they should’ve put a roof on the new stadium; it’ll worth every billion.
yuck, it’s clear on wed, but it’s supposed to rain on thursday night, friday, and saturday.
Some of you may remember the discussion the other day about numbers being retired from all of MLB. Currently it’s only Robinson’s No. 42, but Roberto Clemente’s family and friends also want No. 21 retired.
Now comes the news that Babe Ruth’s granddaughter is petitioning MLB to retire the Babe’s No. 3 off the eligible number list too.
http://wcbstv.com/sports/babe.ruth.linda.2.689070.html
Her argument?
“I do agree with Jackie being retired. He did a great thing,” [Linda] Ruth Tosetti said. “But I think there are other players that have done just as much or more. And actually if it weren’t for my grandfather, there wouldn’t be a game for Jackie to retire from or play.”
So, to recap… Robinson’s daughter thinks Clemente isn’t as deserving as her father because what Jackie did opened the door for Roberto, and Ruth’s granddaughter says that without the Babe there never would have been a Jackie.
Very powerful logic. Not.
Can anybody imagine the rest of the week seeing all games postponed and both the Jays & Rays with vacant indoor facilities ?
I think Babe’s granddaughter is off her rocker.
Stan- I will never understand the schedule makers.
Yankees playing Toronto
AZ at Detroit
Tampa at Baltimore
Or san fran at dodgers HUH? why have two warm weather teams play each other in APRIL?
Did Babe Ruth invent baseball and I missed it? This chick is on some serious drugs.
murphydog -
Just proves what we were saying the other day - the best way to honor someone is to actually WEAR the number and play the game the right way. Plus, there’s never going to be an end to this.
is she serious ? I love the Babe and everything but don’t make that type of arguement Linda, if Babe wasn’t borned Ted Williams would have been the game’s carrier, Mickey Mantle, Josh Gibson was pretty good…to say that Babe paved the way for Jackie Robinson just wow stop already …
that had to be the most disturbing thing I read is there a petition to not retire this number ? I’m signing that one before we know it the MLB players will play w/ symbols, it gets worse because during the CBS broadcast she said the new Yankee Stadium will also be the house that Ruth built too, last I checked in a horrible era Steinbrenner purchased this team and put so much into it even through the crazy years.
Man watching other teams play just isn’t cutting it right now!
Doreen:
It’s just so silly, isn’t it? They take a kid’s game and screw it up.
I can’t watch other teams play right now. I’m watching now don’t laugh. Jon and kate plus ei8ht
murphydog-
All the time.
Baseball cards?
Even beanie babies, for crying out loud. (Made them collectibles, and therefore for “adults.”)
“Remember this is the same grounds crew that during the playoffs against Detroit 2 years ago saw the weather being horrible that night and cancelled when there was not a drop of rain coming down but they saw a forecast for it. Yes it rained during the pre game stuff but it stopped right after it.”
Weather is, by nature, kind of unpredictable. The worst case scenario is starting a game and not being able to finish it. The field would have taken time to clear up, and THEN they needed a good 3 hours to complete the game. It looks like 7-10 tomorrow has good odds of being those 3 clear hours. I’m going to go ahead and trust the weather radar they have over whatever we can see on weather.com.
You know, I was 12 when Beanie Babies were the rage and I had a bunch, though I didn’t care for the tags, so one day when I was home sic from school, I took all the tags off.
My mother FLIPPED.
It’s hysterical now, of course…
Rebecca that doesn’t top what I did. I had a Pete Rose (I believe it was a past and present card, or something like that). Well I was maybe 8, I took a pair of scissors and cut it in half. Well my brother flipped on me first, than my father. I was a little kid, I didn’t know any better. So my brother proceeded to take all my baseball cards from me.
Jen, I’m surprised they let you near the card!
Rebecca –
Those beanie babies WITH the tags in MINT condition would have put you through college, dontcha know!!!
My younger daughter used to love beanies. She has over 200 of them BUT each one of them loved to death. They currently reside in two wicker laundry baskets. I can’t bring myself to get rid of them. They were never a true “collectible” in this house, but they were collected. And they are PRICELESS for the enjoyment they gave my daughter.
I’m sure they aren’t worth anything anymore, since he hasn’t made the hall. But at that point it seemed a lock.
no no, whozat, this was a conspiracy by the yankees’ FO to sell more hot dogs.
never mind that by calling the game, they burn one of their two off days between now and May 5th. i mean, why would they want to get the game in today?
no, it had to be the hot dogs.
hmm
100% correct. They now have to play 20 straight games. But they wanted that extra buck.
It’s really too bad baseball cards are no longer for fun. Or what I would call fun. It’s how I made friends with boys when I was in elementary school. I loved playing baseball cards, and since I was a girl and had no cards of my own, the boys would play and get to keep their cards. Of course, eventually I got my own cards and played for “keepsies,” too. But it was how I learned who was who in baseball. And that awful gum! My brother had a great collection, but like many boys of his age, my mom, who hates clutter, cleaned house and out went the cards. Needless to say he is a big collector of cards now.
My father used to take his baseball cards to stick them in the spokes of his bike. Needless to say he’d probably be pretty well off if he didn’t do it.
haha
Are you affected by today’s rain out?
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Thanks.
From NYYFANS message board. All the fans saw right through the article. :LOL:
Doreen, that gum was awful, but i loved it.
it was like cardboard, but there was something about it that tasted good.
New Stadium pics taken today, enjoy. http://tinyurl.com/yuxs3y
To MLB.TV users. I had no problem earlier in the afternoon, but tonight i’ve been trying every little while for hours to log onto several different games to show my GF the 1.2M quality, but i can’t get any game. it either says they’re doing maintenance or i get a blackout message. is this happening to other people or do i have an issue i must address?
Just in case people don’t know, tonight’s Letterman has Biff at Yankees Spring Training. Also Jose Canesco, but you don’t have to watch that.
testing
Hobbs, it happens from time to time. Try clearing your cookies or closing your browser and reopening.
testing.
I’ll try. Thanks Rebecca.
“As Girardi drove to the Bronx, the temperature in the vehicle was set at 72, his trusty laptop was packed in the hatchback, and the radio was playing. But Girardi was unhappy with the music. He selected one station, then another and another, wondering why New York did not have better choices.”
I wonder that too JOE!!