2008 Yankees payroll
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 01, 2008 
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Per the AP:
NEW YORK YANKEES
Alex Rodriguez $28,000,000
Jason Giambi $23,428,571
Derek Jeter $21,600,000
Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
dl-Andy Pettitte $16,000,000
Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
Jorge Posada $13,100,000
Johnny Damon $13,000,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
Mike Mussina $11,071,030
dl-Carl Pavano $11,000,000
Kyle Farnsworth $5,916,667
Chien-Ming Wang $4,000,000
LaTroy Hawkins $3,750,000
Robinson Cano $3,000,000
Jose Molina $1,875,000
Morgan Ensberg $1,750,000
dl-Andrew Brackman $1,184,788
Wilson Betemit $1,165,000
Brian Bruney $725,000
Billy Traber $500,000
Melky Cabrera $461,200
Phil Hughes $406,350
Shelley Duncan $398,300
dl-Sean Henn $397,448
Ian Kennedy $394,275
dl-Jeff Karstens $393,300
Jonathan Albaladejo $393,225
Ross Ohlendorf $391,425
Joba Chamberlain $390,000
dl-Humberto Sanchez $390,000
Interesting the Derek is the third highest paid Yankee. I thought I read somewhere that George had once told Derek he would alwys be the highest paid player on the team.
Works out to be about $209 million. What will prove very interesting about the future of the team is next year’s payroll. $160M? $175M? I’m sure it’ll be right around where it is now.
Giambi’s salary number is still hard to believe. What an awful contract that turned out to be in so many ways.
Hughes, Kennedy and Chamberlain are making 1.2 million combined this year.
Fran no offense to Derek but if Derek ever is the highest paid player on a team then there is something wrong w/ the system.
Could someone fast with a calculator add that up? And add up the contracts coming off this winter?
The Rays, btw, just took the ’09 option on Crawford that I didn’t know they had. So my dream free agent won’t be available for another offseason.
I can’t wait til Giambi, Mussina, Damon, Pavano, and Farnsworth names are all removed from that list.
now if only the salary button that your paper added had these up to date salaries lol It’s too bad this was released the same day you unveiled the out of date database lol
Giambi, Abreu, Pettitte, Mussina, Pavano – thats over $83MM coming off the payroll next year. Is Farnsworth-less done after this year too? That’s another $6MM.
I think it’s kind of sad that Melky is making less than half of Wilson Betemit’s salary, and less than Brian Bruney. Poor kid, you can’t buy any serious bling with $461,200!
Pavano….sickening.
“Hughes, Kennedy and Chamberlain are making 1.2 million combined this year.”
About the same as Andrew Brackman. Seems fair.
They have roughly $75 million coming off the books this winter.
Do they sign Sabbathia or Texeira? Do they bring back Pettite? Abreu?
None of the above and add more young players making the minimum (e.g. Shelley and maby Miranda at first?)
They have a great deal of flexibility this off season. It’ll be interesting to see what the pay roll is next year.
I could care less if they paid $300M in payroll. With the rising ticket prices and parking costs…the average fan is getting priced out.
Lisa–I know!! How’s he gonna pay for the diamond earrings he likes to wear??
The boys are stylin’!
one day……..
Alex Rodriguez $28,000,000
CC Sabathia $18,000,000
Derek Jeter $21,600,000
Austin Jackson $810,000
Andy Pettitte $13,000,000
Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
Jorge Posada $13,100,000
Brett Gardner $ 210,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
Jose Tabata $500,000
Alan Horne $400,000
Mark Melancon $600,000
Chien-Ming Wang $4,000,000
LaTroy Hawkins $3,750,000
Robinson Cano $3,000,000
Jose Molina $1,875,000
Andrew Brackman $1,184,788
Wilson Betemit $1,165,000
Brian Bruney $725,000
Billy Traber $500,000
Melky Cabrera $461,200
Phil Hughes $406,350
Shelley Duncan $398,300
Ian Kennedy $394,275
Jeff Karstens $393,300
Jonathan Albaladejo $393,225
Ross Ohlendorf $391,425
Joba Chamberlain $390,000
Humberto Sanchez $390,000
Where does Igawa’s salary fit into the equation?
dj,
crawford doesn’t want to come to the yanks. apparently he wants to stay in smaller towns, he’s more comfortable out of the big spotlights.
Then next year when they finish in 4th place. It was be as embarrashing as this year coming when they finish in 4th place.
All of those salaries make me sick. Especially A-Rod’s. I guess that’s what a “Curse” goes for these days!
It’s going to be a GREAT 10 years of pain for the Yankees!
I read a headline a few minutes ago that stated “ARod Makes More Than the Marlins.”
Yeah, and Alex PRODUCES more than the Marlins.
Pettite will probably retire after this season, especially if (when) the Yankees win the World Series. I think Abreu still has gas left in the tank, but we’ll see how he does this year.
I say get Sabathia id the rotation doesn’t work out at all this year, and if Pettite/Moose leave etc. However I think Texiera (spelling?) is probably more valuable and could be perfect, especially as a good fielding switch hitter.
Wait a sec is it just me or are we discussing next year’s team on opening day?
I don’t think I’d go for CC. He can’t stay in shape now, imagine after a 6yr 120 million contract. I do like Tex. Switch hitter with good glove. Stick with youth on the mound. Pay player for what they do for you, not what they’ve done for someone else.
Brandon,
I don’t see Johan Santana anywhere. I’m sure that the Yankees will find a way to trade for him.
I would love for the Yankees to win it all this year so they can get that monkey off their back. Then there’d be less pressure to win at all costs, and we can get back to fiscally sane baseball. Well you know what I mean, relative to now.
That Brackman kid better be good. His terms and salary burns me a bit. That Giambi kid, too. I expect at least 2 homeruns for every million.
William,
I agree on Sabathia, but I’m not so sure about Texeira. Boras is going to want big money for him. He’s good, but I’m not sure if he’s worth what we’d have to pay him. I hope Miranda’s as good as Pete thinks he’ll be so we can stay out of that one. Let’s make a legitimate run at sticking Boston with the highest payroll.
Does anyone know if the Yanks are collecting any insurance money on Pavano? I thought that they could collect by putting him on the 60 day DL ( or as Carl calls it, “The Gravy Train”) this year.
I hope thats the last time we see Pavano’s name in a blog post.. Well, unless theres a joke at his expense next to it.
Your not going to get me this time Peter. Come one guys its April Fools!! Why would they bring it out today? Its probably in the 170 mil. Fool me once. Shame on me.
William Buckner,
I’m with you. Unless CC is capable of having 3 or 4 seasons like last year, it’s not worth the cost.
I know they’re two different pitchers, but CC’s not much more productive than Wang. So where’s the replacement value especially at that cost?
So if $75M comes off the books next season… do the Bombers go out and drop $20M x 6 years for Big Tex Mark ? Then maybe another $20M x 6 for CC ?
So if $75M comes off, and they drop $20M/year for Tex and CC, means the payroll will be roughly $180M ?
Maybe add a reliever to the list, say, K-Rod, 4 years, $52M ? Add another 12M…
If Abreu is gone, need a another OF… Know Matsui can’t do it, and Damon in RF…Ugh.
Lets keep fingers crossed for Shelley, Gardner or another rook to take over RF…?
Brandon,
You still have Brian Bruney on the roster?
bronxbomber,
I didn’t read the article, but I saw a link (rumor) that K-Fed was not going to re-sign with the Angels.
Hell, I think that Mo will make more this year than the opening day roster of this year’s Marlins… (though, Cot’s Contracts doesn’t have 2008 yet)
Not that farfetched; their 2006 roster was 1.5 grand below 15 million
I would wait on K rod and see what he does this year. In the end of last year he seemed to be more human and getting in constant jams. IMO we have enough guys in the minors that can help in the pen for these up coming years. Im gun shy about signing these high relievers for big bucks. Fill it from within.
hmmmm….at first I thought it was an April Fools joke but..
A major league source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told me this morning that the San Francisco Giants have acquired third-baseman Edwin Encarnacion from the Cincinnati Reds, in exchange for left-handers Steve Kline and Pat Misch, plus outfielder Fred Lewis, and cash considerations.
I see…
“Brandon,
You still have Brian Bruney on the roster?”
must have fell asleep
Here’s the article that goes with the A-Rod makes more than the Marlins. So does Giambi and Jeter is within 200K of their team payroll.
http://ap.google.com/article/A.....QD8VP8A6O1
Boston sends RHP Clay Buchholz to AA Portland and recalled RHP Chuck Steak. Also, catcher Les Moore signed to a minor league deal.
http://www.kfdm.com/onset?id=5.....ticle.html
21.8 mil?
…is it a sad thing when I earnestly expected it to be mid ten’s or lower?
No way K-Rod is coming to the Yankees. He’s going to be a closer somewhere, and I doubt Mariano would accept a setup role in 2009. My money’s on him going to the Cubs or Padres (if Hoffman retires)
damnnnnnnn thats doughhhhhh…..but MELKY AND JOBA DEFINITELY NEED TO BE MAKING MORE WTH
Derek Jeter getting $21 million thats insane for a guy who hit less ten 20 homeruns and less then 70 rbi’s.He gets paid not for performance but just smiling in the camera.
If no one is signed (which I doubt happens) with 70 million coming off the books, the payroll would be about 135 million next year. Maybe except for Abreu (depending on Jackson/Tabata progress), I don’t see the Yankees bringing back anyone who’s a FA at the end of the year.
I would not sign Sabathia. He’s left-handed yes but his weight is a question.
I’ll probably sign Texiera.
Id like to go after Chris Ray, but I doubt the O’s would trade him to us. Id give them Horne and Gardner for him in a heartbeat…same goes for Rich Harden.
I wonder that too about K-Rod… But, if he takes a set-up role with the Yankees for a year or two, then he’d be the fulltime closer. What did Mo just get, 3 x 15?
I remember the Yanks wanting BJ Ryan a few years ago for setup, but he wanted to close. Maybe K-Rod will see the big picture.
I love Mo, but if anyone thinks he’s closing for the duration of his three years, they be crazy…
Money aside, if the Yankees had Sabathia and Texiera this year, is there any doubt they would be the flat out favorites to win the world series? The Yankees will sign one if not both of these guys during next off-season. Mark it down.
Carl “American Idle” Pavano’s $11M coming off the books will be like a breath of fresh air. It ranks with Enron for well documented ripoffs.
Its raining in the bronx, man, i cant take it.
Hughe Jurekshun
April 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Id like to go after Chris Ray, but I doubt the O’s would trade him to us. Id give them Horne and Gardner for him in a heartbeat…same goes for Rich Harden.
Didnt he have a major injury last year? Cant remember what it was. As far as Harden goes. I wouldnt mind having him in the pen throwing less innings. Where he might be more durable(i.e.Wood).
Is this the same Clay Bucholz that ESPN and their minions had nominated for the Hall of Fame last November? And DiceK is pitching tonight followed by Lester tomorrow. What exactly IS the Red Sox rotation?
Yes, the Yankees have a lot to prove with their starting pitching. So doesn’t Boston.
The Blue Jays have questions too, but I still think they have the best pitching in the Division and are going to be tough this year.
Heard on radio that is it pouring in the Bronx, but they still expect to get the game in.
Ray had TJ, he’s out for the season.
If you would trade Horne and Gardner for CHRIS RAY, well, I don’t want you anywhere near a GM’s chair @ Yankee HQ
Beane isn’t trading with us any more readily than the O’s are. Have you seen some of the rumored demands he was making for Haren and Blanton this offseason? He’ll probably send Harden to his buddy Theo in Boston, if anywhere.
I believe Ray is out for the year.
That’s freaking crazy!!!!
“Money aside, if the Yankees had Sabathia and Texiera this year, is there any doubt they would be the flat out favorites to win the world series? The Yankees will sign one if not both of these guys during next off-season. Mark it down.”
This year? Texeira would make a great lineup slightly better if at all (I’m assuming that Giambi will perform as well this year as Texeira would trying to adjust to NY). And he’d be a huge defensive improvement.
Sabathia? Slightly better than Wang, maybe. And he’d give us the innings and rotation depth we need with Joba in the pen. But I’d still wonder about his work ethic, his ability to pitch in NY, and his ability to get through the middle of the Red Sox lineup.
If you check the radar in my post up top it shows activity over the Bronx. But it’s clear to the west/northwest, so no worries!
Mussina could do the following calculation:
I make $11,070,030 and pitch the majority of the season.
Pavano makes $11,000,000 and pitches none of the season.
My value to the Yankees for pitching in the regular season is $70,030.
Oh, man, the updated weather report has “few showers” until about 10 p.m.
Well, for the entire 40-man roster, it’s $399481576.
The Yankees buy their championships!!!111
Doreen – What forecast? Accuweather’s hour by hour still has some thunderstorms in the 8pm hour, but nothing in the 7, and nothing after 9. And it’s still dry here in midtown.
Does anyone no where I can get run support stats for 2008?
Pettite and Dice-K
Nah, buying our championships isn’t trendy anymore. Apparently we now juice our rosters to win championships.
CMW and Cano are obviously the best values on the team right now. The Pavano line item just sticks out, laughing at Yankee fans everywhere.
Jerkface, who do you expect to get for Horne and Garder…Im very curious to see what you think they can bring back in a trade….Peavey? Ryan Braun? Verlander? C Zambrano? Maybe all of them?
mel
April 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
If you check the radar in my post up top it shows activity over the Bronx. But it’s clear to the west/northwest, so no worries!
Are you Dallas Raines or Frits Coleman? You know know how to read those things? Damn i need to rent Weatherman and watch it a few more times.
Coming off the books (Giambi, Abreu, Pettite, Mussina, Pavano, Farnsworth, and Hawkins) is $87.2mm. Figure $5-10mm for increases to younger players (Wang, Cano, etc.)and you’ve still got $80mm to shop with. Start off with Pettite at $16mm if he wants to (and is able)pitch at the new stadium. Figure something less than $16mm if you need to resign Abreu (2 yrs at $28) because prospects don’t develop as forecast. Maybe Shelley proves he can hold down the fort for a year. Teixeira is only necessary if none of your 1st base prospects pans out. Or maybe you want to go luxury shopping??? Chasing CC is purely based on his continues viablity along with your prospects performance in ’08. May not be needed. Have a Moose day in June ’09 to thank him for his efforts, nothingmore needed. Don’t let the door hit Pavano on the way out. Farnsworth’s (even if effective this year) and Hawkins’ services are no longer required. ’09 bullpen – Rivera, Melancon, Ohlendorf, Albaladejo, Sanchez, Patterson, Robertson… missing a LHP, solve later
“laughing at Yankee fans everywhere.”
Are you a Sox fan? If so, can you say Clement.
SOS 27,
I knew they shut ray down last season, but I wasnt aware he had TJ surgery…Id still trade for him though, have him for next season.
Predictions for tonight:
NYY 7
TOR 2
Wang: 7 IP, 2 ER, 4 H, 1 BB, 3 SO
Player of the Game: Robbie Cano; 3-4, BB, 2B, 3 RBI, 2 R
1st Yankee Homer of 2008: Big G….2-run blast to right center in bot 3rd
Thoughts??
The Yankees really don’t have much in terms of first base prospects that can pan out-they don’t have depth there. Eric Duncan is nowhere near ready and Duncan is more like a platoon player. I don’t see Miranda doing much either. They’ll definitely be pressing to get Teixeira, but I don’t see Sabathia ending up in the Bronx.
I think it’d be more fitting for A-Rod to hit the homer, but otherwise, I like your projections.
What folks need to understand is that almost $80mil of their salary total,almost 40%, goes to players that came up through the Yankees system.
Work out the same numbers for the Red Sox, and it’s a little over $16mil, if you generously include Curt Schilling’s $13 mil,or only 11% of their payroll.
troy- missing a LHP, solve later.
Traber if he does well this year?
How about this trade…..Melky, Horne, Sanchez and Gardner for Markakis, Loewen and Ray?
Drive 4-5,
I noticed that the Yankees starve their farm players, but reward them well later. Of course I can’t explain throwing money at free agents with advancing years to come, but that seems to be done with.
Oh wow. Buchholz really was arrested for stealing laptops in high school.
However he most certainly is not starting this season in AA, and that article came out in 2004. . . ( not just in)
Steph I believe Jesus Montero will end up at first.
The Giambi contract…sighs. I think the we have a lot of contracts coming off the books after this year.
Hughe,
The O’s would laugh at that proposal.
The Sox made him promise to be a model citizen if they drafted him or else they wouldn’t because it was putting their reputation on the line. So far he has stayed true to his word.
Clippard was arrested for underage drinking in high school, I think, but the Yanks still drafted him.
Jumping ahead to 2010, Damon and Matsui will be off the books after 2009.
Jose Tabata and Austin Jackson will be near ready and the Yankee outfield will be younger.
The bigger question may be Jeter’s situation both with a contract due and a possible position change to save the final years of his career to get him to 3,000 hits. Will Carmen Angellini be ready ? Will Teixeira already be at 1st base ? The winter of 2009-2010 will be a pivotal time.
Speaking of the Orioles. My guess is that Tex goes to Baltimore next year. Miranda becomes our first baseman.
Hughe- I like Markakis.
i.m.t.c.b.p. My prediction would also be Arod launching one. He seems to hit one on opening day alot if im not mistaken.
Montero is definitely on the brink of outgrowing the catching position, but he is still very young and raw. I’d still expect to wait at least 3 years to see him in the Bronx, especially since he’d have to learn the first base position.
mel,
You’re right. The Yanks broke with their normal policy when the gave Cano his new contract. They usually use their leverage for as long as they can.
When you have a farm system that produces players like Jeter, Bernie, Mo, Posada, Cano and Pettitte you are eventually going to have to pay to keep them. It’s a dilemma the Red Sox have yet to face.
DJ, I Know they would…but people like Jerkface(and many other yankee fans) seem to think that Yankee prospects are all going to be perennial all stars and end up in the hall of fame….so why not suggest it.
In reality, Horne and Gardner is not enough for Chris Ray
Jumping ahead to 2010, Damon and Matsui will be off the books after 2009.
I dont know why.But i think one will be traded before their contract is up. Matsui being the higher probability. Being that a team can sell more tickets to Godzillamaniacs.
Hughe,
Horne and Gardner is overpaying for Chris Ray. Horne is a possible number 2 starter and Gardner is a possible starting centerfielder. Chris Ray is a closer with one good year under his belt trying to recover from a major injury.
For what it’s worth – they are going to be playing the exhibition game in Trenton scheduled between the AA and AAA teams.
They took the tarp off the field in and said the weather looks like it will hold off enough to get the game in.
If the weather’s good enough to try to get an minor league exhibition game in, hopefully tonight’s season opener will be ok.
On the Charleston roster they have Montero at DH. I know that he will be catching some but they still have him listed at DH.
Austin Romaine I think is the better catching prospect anyway. He could succeed Posada.
Montero could be major league ready as early as 2010.
Alan, I agree
There’s gonna be some drama once Jete’s contract is up. Regardless of what the Yankees decide to do, there are going to be some angry fans and a lot of critics throwing in more than just their two cents.
But I don’t want to think about things like that for now. We’ll battle that shark when we get to it (how does that saying go?).
For now, its all about Mission2708. We’re bringing it home!!! (If only for a short time before we move across the street but nonetheless)
Come to think of it. We cant sign Texiera. We need that position for our older players. I see Jeter and Posada getting some time in at first within the next 2 years. After thats over with it will be Alex making the move. Firstbase and dh need to stay open.
“In reality, Horne and Gardner is not enough for Chris Ray”
Maybe in bizarro reality but not in actuality. Even if Ray were healthy I wouldn’t make that trade if I’m the Yankees.
Prediction for tonight Yankees 7
Toronto 2
Wang said in the papers that he was going to pitch a no-hitter!
Hey Jimmy…ESPN has run support on their sortable stats. It’s under “Expanded II” and is listed as RS. It reflects runs scored per nine innings while the pitcher is the pitcher of record.
Last year Pettitte was 6.77 and Dice-K was 5.72.
Here’s a good list for you: it reflects all AL pitchers who tossed at least 140 innings last year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....;minip=140
I saw that as well. I think that Cashman will have Montero playing a bit of first and catcher to see how both positions work out for him. He looked pretty good handling a pitching staff in what little I saw of him in Spring Training…he could be in the majors as early as 2010, but I’d see it as a September call-up.
like I said, yankee fans highly over hype and over value their prospects.
Dave S.
Thank you.
Weather.com
Not that I trust any weather report.
Here in Central NJ, Exit 8A Turnpike to be exact, it just poured and now it looks like the sun wants to make an appearance, only just.
Because it was supposed to be on ESPN last night, does anyone know if tonight’s game will again be carried by ESPN?
I ask because ESPN is supposed to carry the Women’s NCAA Tourney tonight, and I doubt they’d kick that game off the airwaves even for Yankees opener. Maybe it’ll be on ESPN Classic?
On Channel 5 the weatherman just said “showers tonight, but they will be able to play.”
Alou says he wouldn’t have caught Bartman ball in 2003 NLCS
All i can say is im happy to be a Yankee. Poor Cubs fans. Still talking about what iffs. Im thankfull in being a spoiled fan.
Hugh- I would say most fans over hype their prospects. The Angels wont trade any of their farm thinking they will be the next best thing. Example Dallas Mcpherson.
Not sure about the ESPNs but I read that it’s on YES (just spent 15 mins explaining out to DVR to the mother as I will not be home on time – no fun)
Champagne -
The saying is “cross that bridge when we come to it.”
Fran -
Wang said he would have pitched a no-hitter yesterday, on his birthday.
Hughe -
EVERYONE over-rates their own prospects!
The game will be on YES and MLB.tv, but I’m not sure about ESPN. If you have DirectTV, I think this is the week that the baseball channels give their free previews…
Most experts have Evan Longoria winning the R.O.Y. Can someone tell me who his game is being compared to. Man will the Rays ever do anything with all the young studs that come out of their farm?
Comcast Digital Cable offers their free previews of all the MLB channels for another week….
SOS,
Longoria’s starting in the minors…likely until about June, he’s a third baseman but I couldn’t tell you much more, except scouts are expecting big things out of him.
Unless he lights it up from June-September he probably won’t win ROY
The Rays have loads of talent, but they never seem to be able to put it together for a good run. They do have pitching now, though, so they could do a lot better this year.
As for Longoria…well, he’s in the minors right now for money reasons, but if he’s back up in May, he still has a chance at ROY. Otherwise, I think that somebody like Ellsbury or Kennedy could get it.
i have mlb.tv but id much rather watch it on HD on my flatscreen than my computer monitor..
Ben,
Im hearing that he will get the call in a month. For everyone to be picking him to be unanomously is impressive.
They also picked David Wright as the MVP. I dont agree. Pujols and all those stars in Philli have a better chance. I think Chase Utley has a better chance.
The Cashman-Oppenheimer Plan should reach fruition by 2010 with Jeter, Posada, Mariano, and A-Rod becoming the guiding factors for the next generation of Yankees.
Also by that time, the lower level prospects of today will be ready to assume their roles.
Damon Oppenheimer will continue signing good talent to keep the system stocked with a continuous flow.
Pujols will have to stay healthy for the entire year to contend for the MVP, but from reports, it doesn’t look good for him. Wright, Utley, and Rollins all have a good shot at making the MVP, though.
There’s a 70% chance of rain on Friday.
Here’s a “what if”… what if Friday’s game gets rained out. Would you skip IPK in the rotation and still have Pettitte start on Saturday?
With the innings limitation on IPK,Hughes & Joba, at some point the Yanks are going to have to find ways implement that. They could save some precious innings for IPK for later in the year by skipping him now.
What do ya think?
Free preview on inDemand this week, but this game is a make-up, and was not on their schedule. It is still not showing on their game marquee…
Bummer.
To think that Arot makes 28 million is truly enough to make one wretch their partial digested $10 beer, $6 hotdog and $5 soda. Thanks Alex for your contributions to humanity.
The ideal first base solution for me would be to have Jeter move there and have Alberto Gonzalez come up to play short. The defensive upgrade at both positions would come close to outweighing the offensive downgrade.
If they do that, they could always change their mind and get an expensive statue to play first and mash the ball later if it doesn’t work out.
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ATT Pete -
Igawa is not on the salary list at 4M.
Bob
yankees will finish in 3rd place, phightin phils win the ws, yes evan longoria wins the ROY, Pedroia wins MVP, the yanks pull in burnett and CC at the end of winter meetings. Abreu is not resigned. And by the way, is no one other than me thinking that the Giambi contract is the worst? forger pavano, Giambi makes double and i wish he was on the DL, his .220 batting average makes me sick and he is good for 20 HRs. not good enough my friends. And Obama wins the presidency.