Game 2: Blue Jays at Yankees
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- April
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Cabrera CF
Mussina RHP
BLUE JAYS
Eckstein SS
Stewart LF
Rios RF
Wells CF
Thomas DH
Overbay 1B
Hill 2B
Scutaro 3B
Barajas C
Burnett RHP
UPDATE, 6:09 p.m.: Posada has been scratched with a stiff right shoulder. He tweaked it making a throw yesterday and with the cold weather today he had trouble getting loose. Matsui will move up in the order and Molina will hit eighth.
Joe Girardi said the injury was minor and that Posada was day-to-day.
UPDATE, 6:18 p.m.: If you were thinking about stealing anything from Yankee Stadium this season, read this press release:
YANKEES ARREST TWO FANS FOR ATTEMPTED LARCENY
AND CRIMINAL MISCHIEF AT OPENING DAY GAME
The New York Yankees announced today that two fans were arrested during Tuesday’s Opening Day game vs. the Toronto Blue Jays at Yankee Stadium for attempting to steal Stadium bunting and causing damage to the bunting and façade.
Both fans were charged with attempted larceny and criminal mischief. Each charge is punishable by up to one year imprisonment and/or fines. They were detained and booked by the New York City Police Department and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The Yankees have also revoked their season ticket accounts.
“The Yankees look forward to making this final season at Yankee Stadium a magical event for every fan,†said Yankees Chief Operating Officer Lonn Trost. “This type of destructive behavior will not be tolerated from the first game of the season through the last.â€
UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.: It’s 44 degrees at gametime here in the Bronx and the Yankees are already down 1-0 thanks to an error at first base by Jason Giambi that put David Eckstein on. Ironically, Joe Girardi said before the game how much faith he had in the Big G to play in the field.
The Moose has a white board at his locker (like he had in spring training) and he wrote “Welcome to Lambeau Field” on it before the game.
UPDATE, 7:35 p.m.: By Yankee Stadium standards there is a sparse crowd on hand tonight. There are several sections of seats completely empty in the loge and scattered pockets of empty seats elsewhere.
But new team senior vice president Jennifer Steinbrenner Swindal is on hand, braving the cold from the owner’s box.
It’s not a pleasant night whatsoever, especially when the wind blows.
UPDATE, 7:43 p.m.: Harlan Chamberlain, Joba’s dad, was on the field before the game on his scooter. He went over to introduce himself to Frank Thomas to tell him that Joba had his poster in his bedroom back in Nebraska.
UPDATE, 8:16 p.m.: Here’s Joe Girardi’s pregame interview session. He talked about Giambi, Joba, Mussina, Hughes and other things:
UPDATE, 8:38 p.m.: The Big G flashed some leather there. … Meanwhile, the Moose has allowed two earned runs over five innings. If he does that on most nights, he’s going to be just fine.
UPDATE, 8:42 p.m.: The lever on the countdown clock will be pulled tonight by three of the Super Bowl champion Giants — Steve Smith, Ahmad Bradshaw and Aaron Ross.
UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: Mussina threw too good a fastball on 0-2 to Hill and he punched in into right right field with two outs. The RBI single gave Toronto a 4-0 lead and Moose is done for the night.
That takes away from what was otherwise a decent outing. LaTroy Hawkins now making his Yankees debut.
UPDATE, 9:10 p.m.: The line on Mussina: 5.2 8 4 3 2 2. He threw 91 pitchesm, 62 strikes. He was an out away from a quality start. He was’t great, he wasn’t terrible. Of the eight hits, only half of them were line drives. The rest were bloopers.
At some point, they need to re-set the rotation so it’s Wang, Pettitte, Hughes, Mussina and Kennedy. But regardless, Mussina has to give them innings.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: That last run Moose gave up and the error by Giambi really hurts now as A-Rod just belted a two-run homer. It’s 5-2 with no outs in the seventh.
Here’s the updated career home run list:
13. Mickey Mantle 536
14. Jimmie Foxx 534
15. Ted Williams and Wilie McCovey 521
17. Rodriguez 519
UPDATE, 9:59 p.m.: Nice job by Brian Tallet, six up and six down with four K’s. Toronto has really pitched a heck of a game.
UPDATE, 10:13 p.m.: It seems like yesterday the Yankees played in 2:31. Now it’s 10:13 and we still have three outs to go. I also can’t feel my fingers because they’re numb.
UPDATE, 10:14 p.m.: Tying run at the plate in the form of A-Rod.
UPDATE, 10:18 p.m.: He struck out on a 2-2 fastball.
UPDATE, 10:19 p.m.: The Big G gave it a ride to center. But it didn’t fly far on this night. Two outs. … Cano pops out and that’s it. 161-1 it is.
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Joba will replace Mussina in the rotation by mid June.
Love getting the lineup at 4 pm…love it.
Coach Gordon Bombay will replace Thompson as bench coach.
HA!!! nice rb15
Any idea if this is on Uno or the Deuce tonight? No YES up here in RedNeck Maine….
Let me guess:
ESPN lineup:
7-11 womes basketball
11-12 Basket weaving
ESPN Deuce lineup:
6-8 Why the Red Sox should be considered a dynasty, hosted by Peter “I need new dentures” Gammons and Steve “I need more base makeup on my hands please” Phillips
8-8:30 – If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying, hosted by Bill Belichick
8:30-11 Recapping the 2004 ALCS (from games 4 thru 7)
11-12 Red Sox Tonight, hosted by John Donut Kruk, Eric pip squeek Young, and Harold “I didn’t do it” Reynolds
thanks mike – no offense, pete. it was just a great image in my mind.
I love Coach Bombay.
Let’s hope the Yanks light up Burnett
If the Yankees aren’t going to play Duncan for the first few games, why not have him serve his suspension?
Brian
¡Hola! everybody!!
Baseball Been away tooo, tooo long.
(sniffle) So nice to have her back. (sniffle)
It was like an old movie, where the protagonists find each in a crowd (Crocodile Dundee).
And the gang didn’t disappoint, the crew rocked da joint, GOOD!
Here’s the first Slideshow of last nites excitement (75 pix in 2 segments).
â–º http://tinyurl.com/3ddr25
“The Last Danceâ€
Looks like it is on the deuce tonight. At least it is posted on Yankees.com.
Hope the bullpen is ready to work tonight, Moose may only go 5-6. Should be fun…(I hope).
thats a very good point brian, but i think he wantas to get his sentence reduced by a game…
actually, newyork.yankees.mlb.com
I stand corrected.
Well, the Yanks sure will have the left side covered with 2 LFers and 2 at short. Girardi must be a genius to get the MLB to agree to this.
Clicked on the “Baseball Players Salaries” link on the right side of Pete’s blog, and surprised to find that ARod is not the highest paid player in the game this year. How interesting.
Here’s Part Two:
â–º http://urlred.com/6iKct
“The Melky Way Set the Night Aglow”
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I’ll be back in 30 minutes with a blow-out video on Yankee Stadium.
Only problem is we have nobody to cover up the middle…no CF.
I now Girardi’s supposed to be the “new style” and all, but this is some controversial baseball right here.
Maybe with Jeter and Alex’s renewed friendship, they just wanted to hang out together at SS tonight.
Hope the Yanks beat up on Burnett. Have a feeling tonight will be a high scoring game.
Correction.
Arod is the highest paid in 2008.
Giambi was the highest paid in 2007.
Yanks Fan in Queens: that amount was what the Yankees were paying A-Rod. It didn’t take the money from Texas into account.
Btw ortiz looks very bad at the plate…
The first couple of comments on this post CRACKED ME UP!!!!
Very funny Patton and TK.
Dr. A: GREAT TO SEE YOU BACK!
Hmm, it looks like it’ll be a little crowded at short and in left…wonder what kind of shift it is…
Question: Do you think Mussina should be the #2 pitcher, before Hughes or Kennedy? (I know Pettitte ordinarily would be, but should Moose come before the young guys?)
Acula welcome back who are the females in the pics family ?
Should Moose be the normal #2? No. But the Yankees need someone to fill in for Andy and not get Kennedy and Hughes too involved too early with their innings limits. Kennedy will likely be able to get to all of his starts and pitch nearly 200 innings, but with Hughes at about 170 innings, yes, we need someone to be before the kids.
LOL BronxBomber77
Steve: yes he should. The young guys are on an innings limit. They need to be at the back of the rotation. That’s the main reason, I think.
I think come the second inning Girardi should go with 2 firstbasemans. Duncan and Giambi. One gets the ground ball, the other throws to second(when needed). I like how Girardi is mixing it up. Whats next? 2 pitchers, one lefty one righty. Batter doesnt know who has the ball.
Steve: For this year, yes, because we don’t know what we’ll get from Phil and Ian. When we do, then you can change it around.
That’s a 1-1 final between Arsenal and Liverpool (I’m the only one who remotely cares about that, right?) and it’s still nil-nil in the bottom of the 4th in Oakland.
Lol, nah, I kinda like watching the Premiereship, but I prefer women’s soccer. A’s have a runner on first with no out.
Peter, when you write a book with highlights from this blog, some of these hilarious responses to the typos must be included!
Nick: I like Man U =D
I did a double take on that line up when I saw SS by A-Rod’s name lol. 2 SS’s and 2 LF’s and no 3B and no CF should make for an interesting game lol.
Thanks Pete for going through the trouble of getting the line ups for us.
Ah, but this match was only masquerading as a Premiership tilt, it was actually a competition in the Champions League. But the same two teams play this weekend in an actual Premiership match before their Champions League home-and-home engagement concludes next week.
And the Red Sox get out of the inning unscathed.
Moose get symbolic #2 or #3 starter spot based on career accomplishments, respect, and innings limits.
Who starts in the playoffs would be based on different criteria.
Man U: feh.
I follow Chelsea, West Ham, Manchester United, and a few other teams.
From a previous thread Pete – “Jason Giambi’s unwashed pants…”Urgh. Please, have a thought for your English reader(s) for whom the word pants has a more undergarment-related meaning.
Now, good luck with selling THOSE…
Speaking of taking things from the Stadium this press release from the Yankees
Yankees arrest two fans for attempted larceny and criminal mischief at Opening Day game
Im lucky enough to have Extra Innings till the 6th. If you got digital cable, its a promo. Anyways catching this Sox A’s game and WOW. I realized I was getting bored, and then I got sleepy and I wondered why? I realized its because when Lester pitches he takes anywhere bwetween 21-26 sec to deliver an F’n pitch. In comparison Harden takes 11-12 sec. The A’s players should step out to just throw Lester off b/c he does it to them when he takes forever to pitch. I cant believe the umps don’t say anything. Its torture.
“I kinda like watching the Premiership, but I prefer women’s soccer.”
Hehe. And there we Limeys were thinking we had sent you David Beckham and soccer would make it big over there…
Nick in SF, Rebecca – there’s only one decent team in the ‘EPL’, and it’s Arsenal. All the rest are nothing more than the Mets in disguise..
Remember how slow Jamie Moyer was to the plate when he pitched for Seattle? Then again, he still is. Great pitcher, but it seemed like ABs could go on for ages…wait. They did.
Haha, I’m in LA and I’m not a Galaxy fan. How’s that for you? Lol. I do follow the men’s teams, but not as much as the women’s. Well, since I’m a girl and have played soccer for ages, it does make sense that I follow the women’s teams more closely than the men’s. I grew up in a good era for the sport.
Dano–Yeah, but when I was in London Arsenal were horrible.
Manny K’s with 2 on to end the inning. Still 0-0.
Dano, Arsenal is my team for sure (and a team I’ve seen play at Highbury), but I wouldn’t call them the only decent team in the EPL when they’re in 3rd place.
Meanwhile, Formerly Big Papi flares a single for his first hit of the season, 2 on 2 out for Manny who K’s to end the top of the inning!
DET got 3 hit by the Royals… this DET team is eerily similar to the Yanks.. i am sure it will be thru the year.. feast or famine offense spotty bull pen and a fragile rotation.. albeit DET has an ace..
two such teams cant make the playoffs… can they?
I just want to say that i still want Harden on our team. He just blew away Manny with men on 1st and 2nd to end the fifth. Pithing a shutout.
If Harden could manage to stay healthy, he’d be good for any team.
thats great SoS. It will take hughes, cabrera, and kennedy to get him.
Also, im not impressed with Lester. Consistantly wild and is getting lucky with the double play getting him out of trouble. Ian will have a better carreer.
Arsenal — haha… thats funny… they choke on a glass of water.. Arsenal cant stand properity, their run of 4 draws when in the lead.. oh boy..
Arsenal do deserve kudos for one thing, there are very few English blokes in the premiership .. where Steven Gerrard, Frank lampard and Wayne Rooney are supposedly world class !!
Maybe its Arsene Wenger!! too bad u let the Robert Pires dude go.. he used to dive and get 5 penalties a year..
Arsenal… haha !!
YankeesRfirst, I like this Extra Innings stuff, I ordered it today. However I have two tv’s in my living room, one on XBox, one on the Red Sox game.
anti-mussina is right–Beane will fleece you.
Also, Harden doesn’t stay healthy.
dr. a, great pictures! did you take them yourself?
sos, you arent the only one my friend…as I said yesterday, Id give them Alan Horne and Bret Gardner for him in a heart beat. Id even throw in a guy like Bruney/Britton/Edwar to sweeten it…but I highly doubt that pakcage gets Harden…especially from a GM like BB.
thats great SoS. It will take hughes, cabrera, and kennedy to get him.
We’re talking about Harden not Santana. No thanks.
Harden — no, he is a great tease… tell me one Oakland Athletic or Atlanta Brave that has done well since leaving those teams !!
dont touch him, if it takes 2 non-playoff years so be it, lets develop the kids, its far more fun.. and easier to digest Hughes or Kennedy struggling and learning vs a Javy Vazuqez or Kevin Brown
and I would still include Gardner and Horne in any trade for a major leaguer.
Hugh, that’s a rather interesting name. Hope there are no grade school kids here reading this…
“and I would still include Gardner and Horne in any trade for a major leaguer.”
Even a Kyle Lohse? I’d trade them for Blanton. But that wouldn’t get Blanton either. Not from Billy
Strike ‘em out, throw ‘em out for new pitcher in Oakland.
MikeEff,
I considered that, but I figure 3 games now when he is not needed is better than a couple of games two weeks from now when he might be needed due to injury or other factors.
Followed by a 4-pitch walk.
whozat, dont patronize me.
how do I use those smile faces?
PUT SNY RIGHT NOW CANSECO LIVE vs BENINGO, RAISSMAN
steph-
good to see there is another LA yankee fan out here. where do u watch the games ?
Has Ortiz even gotten a hit yet? I only saw the Sox play when they were in Japan and he did look horrible at the plate. Manny, on the other hand, looked good.
Ortiz got his first hit in his last at-bat, a little flare single. Now the Sox have bases loaded, 2 out, with Alan Embree pitching to Dustin Pedroyer.
Embri makes you appreciate Traber that much more.
(and I’m spelling Pedroyer the what whatsisname on NESN says it.)
Inning over, no score!
Sox have stranded 10.
Dang, that’s a lot.
Well, right now I’m getting the free previews and watching on YES, but normally I watch on MLB.tv. I just hate those Saturday blackouts…
Looks like the Cubbies are in danger of dropping to 0-2. They are trailing 6-2 in the bottom of the 8th.
Hugh,
Just hover over the icon and it shows you the keystrokes.
what is canseco wearing – what is that!
Rebecca- lol…you made me go back and read his name a little quicker
Hugh-…..
steph-
good to see there is another LA yankee fan out here. where do u watch the games ?
Is being in So.Cal not specifically in L.A. considered?
Haha, sure. Live in one of the boroughs off of LA or something?
I know two games isn’t a huge universe but I have to say I still say that Detroi’s offense doesn’t compare to the Yankees offense! Either that or KC has some butt kicking pitching! HA HA HA!
Both the Dead Sox and Oakland are jet lagged out. I’m not surprised that neither team, has made anything much happen. That said,
GO OAKLAND!
mel, I dont have any icons, all I have is a space to leave a reply and a button to submit it…am I supposed to be somewhere else?
Embree did a very good job for Oakland last season and has started off the same way this season.
Hugh,
If you saw an icon in whozat’s post, hover over it. It shows the keystrokes.
Hover over these:
LOL. Too much-
http://blogs.trb.com/sports/baseball/yankees/blog/2008/04/morgan_ensberg_in_trouble_with.html
embree is the opposite of handsome
Hover over what icons?
I prefer the mellow stylings of Hugh Jass.
Meanwhile, Oakland goes down quietly again. They are too punchless to strand as many runners as the Sox, thus far.
Gotta go. Good luck to the Moose.
Youk leads off with a double.
sorry, emoticons. Bye.
Doesn’t sound like there are very many A’s fans in attendance.
Papi homers. 2-0 Sox. I guess he finally woke up.
It’s now 2-0, Ortiz took Embree deep.
Dang.
Yeah and it was hit by a .143 hitter. Go figure.
Manny just hit a deep fly to center, and stood around styling in his special way to see the ball caught at the wall, which Manny is stunned by. If the ball is dropped, he’s standing on first like a jackass.
Inning over.
Is it just me or does anyone think this is yet another dumb move by McNamee?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BBO_MCNAMEE_CLEMENS_MEMORABILIA?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Jetes and Arod both playing SS, cool.
Lester is being pulled after Emil Brown, the hero of Japan, leads off the inning with a single.
Ant: I wouldn’t dignify that by bringing it up.
Gotta love that Manny. Instead of standing on first like a jackass, he’s back in the dugout sitting down like a jackass.
I wonder if he went back to the dugout saying he knew it was going to get caught on the warning track.
Sorry, I gave you bad info, it was a 2-out hit.
aaaaaand the A’s fail to score.
Is there a stat the Red Sox keep for the number of times Manny doesn’t run out balls he thinks might be HRs?
I don’t have the formula in front of me, but I think that stat is called the MBMM — the Manny Being Manny Meter. That play rated fairly high, but not as high as those plays when Manny loafs in the field or does something completely unexpected, like throwing the ball into the ground instead of to the relay man.
Meanwhile, the Sox have bases loaded with none out again vs. Lenny DiNardo. Not looking so good for the Green.
Falling asleep with the radio under my pillow, walking into Da House and being overwhelmed by grass that seemed to glow in daylight, getting drunk in the right field bleachers..
Memories.
What ever they do, they can never take that away from us. They’re ous.
We’ll be in a new, high-tech house next year, but no matter, the House-that-Ruth-Built we always be our Home.
Here’s a video of a gorgeous, heroic soul – she will live ForEVHA!!
â–º http://urlred.com/Umo4v
(Runs 4:56)
I think this is an especially important start for Mike Mussina’s confidence. He and the Yanks would be very happy if he can go 5 solid innings. Mussina pitched his way out of the rotation last year and he needs to cement his spot this year. If Mussina struggles for the first 5 or 6 weeks and losses his spot, he may never see it again.
Ansky, I’m sure there is.
mlb.com Gameday has Molina at catcher.
Thanks Dr Acula. I bookmarked it even
Now it’s 4-0 Sox, still bases loaded with none, out, Papi up.
Molina at catcher today according to YES…why??
Michigan –
I wonder if Molina will be Moose’s personal catcher this year like he was in spots last year. Posada should benefit from more rest this year but I often wonder about Moose being high maintenance even though I like his cranky personality.
I love Mlina. What a great trade that was!
I don’t care if Ortiz pulls a rabbit out of his butt and Manny jumps over the wall himself instead of sending the ball there. When the game is over the Yankees will still be in first place over the losers from beantown.
Ortiz K’s. He must have been lulled back to sleep again during the bottom of the inning. Then Manny hits a GIDP. Could have been worse, but I think 4-0 holds up.
posada has some stiffness per ESPN
He probably got that stiffness from laughing at the Baseball Tonight commercial over and over and over again.
Dr.Acula,
Besides Jeter, I dont know anyone else that is around as many hott women as you are. All i can say is its great to be you(if i was single offcoarse).
Posada surely didn’t look at a picture of Canseco’s wife then …
Posada scratched. See update.
Aw man. I hope Posada’s ok!
Well that’s a shame. Nice to have Molina ready and not the stache’ or Wil.
Big Dean’s under the Santa Monica pier is the only place in LA that I know of to watch a Yankees game. And that is only because the main bartender is a big fan and will put the game on no matter what others are watching.
O’Neill is finally addressing the number issue.
Thank GOD we have Molina! Another genius move by Brian Cashman.
I would say that the Sux score should hold also. That game is so exciting that I decided to watch reruns of Judge Judy intead of watching any more of it.
LA Yanks Fan-If you want to go for a drive (I’m not sure where you are), you can go over to Disneyland and watch at ESPN Zone in Downtown Disney. They usually have screens tuned to the Yankees if they’re playing.
Lou Piniella must be close to his boiling point.
Kim jones just asked Paul O Neil about Hawkins wearing 21 and while he obviously didn’t show anger towards it I think you could see he was somewhat bothered by it.
I don’t blame him or the fans for feeling that way, it’s just plain stupid that Hawkins is wearing that number.
Sure he’s not A-Rod or a hall of famer with massive numbers, but that shouldn’t matter to a team honoring someones number. If theres a Yankee hall of fame, he’s in it. The guy was one of the main rocks of the 90’s dynasties and that is what matters.
Paul O Neil. Yankee.
Hawkins? What?
Neill*
I don’t blame LaTroy Hawkins for wearing the number he was assigned either. And while fans may be genuinely upset about it, I DO blame the mental midgets who would boo him. That had to be a wonderful wecome to the House that Ruth Built for a guy who hasn’t done anything short of accepting a contract that was offered to him!
When will the game begin – 7EST?
Welcome back, Dr. Ac! Great pictures, as usual — actually, even better than usual!!!! I forgot how good looking Derek Jeter was a really great picture of him. Also loved the shot of Melky against the wall!
Good luck to Mussina tonight! I’m hoping for a win for all to start the season (all the starters, that is).
Hey Everyone!!
What a wacked out week. Everything has gone wrong, except the Yankees
Oh, my team. They’ve always been there for me.
Rebecca- wOOt !! we got some catching up to do, Grrl.
Brandon- the one in the ARod jersey is a niece; the 4 pack are part of niece’s JerseyGirl crew; the 2-pack are two darling world-travelers, living it up in the right-field bleachers; not sure who’s the Babe with linked to my name, but she’s got rockn sensibilities.
Frits- I wish! I would have knocked over my nana to go, but she’s one tough cookie, and she knocked me outta da way, first.
And big SHOUTOUT to Gayle, Jen, Mel, Doreen, Clare, BBB, Blondie, Lori, Murphydog, UtilityMan, ThatWasMe, Pique, Buddy Biancalana, E-ROC(in turkey), SaucY, J-Dawd, Drive 4-5, CB, Boston Dave, Brian PA, Don Vito, and the whole family – yes, even SJ
It’s always a treat to be with ya!!!
So many comments, last nite! WOOOW – it took a hour to read them this morning.
Thanks for the update on Posada. Let’s hope he’s okay, though, to be honest, I was surprised he was out there catching Mussina, but that’s just me.
Seems like Paulie had his chance to put the number thing to rest and decided not to. Although he didn’t exactly throw Hawkins under the bus he kept saying that its nice to be identified with that number… his kids wear that number on their basketball teams… he signs autographs with that number, etc.
Pathetic post
Doreen-
Hello Luv. It’s been tooo, tooo long.
Our team and our fans are quite the lookers, aren’t they. But then again, you already knew that.
I was trying to upgrade to the silver mlb screen and its stuck on loading. I have 400k mlb t.v. I downloaded it,restarted the computer and its not showing the game. Did i do something wrong?
Steph,
Moose isn’t really the #2 starter. It all depends on where you start the count. Now, yes, for tonight, he’s #2, but follow me here. Pettitte slips in on Saturday. He’s either #5, behind Kennedy, or #1, before Wang. That makes Mussina #3.
Believe it or not, I was playing this scenario out while I was eating dinner, thinking, man, Petttitte should not be the #5 starter, when it occurred to me that it’s all in the way you look at it! See? Also, they can at some point flip Wang and Pettitte and then they’re back to #1 Wang and #2 Pettitte, where they wanted to be in the first place!
Dr. A–Indeed! What have you been up to?
Of course it’s absurd that he’s wearing it. The only person who really disagrees is a portly, disingenuous beat writer.
Dr. Ac -
Yes, I did!!!
(P.S. I have made 2 brilliant posts regarding Mussina’s and Pettitte’s ACTUAL location in the rotation that haven’t shown up yet. To summarize, open your minds, broaden your horizons and think outside the box – Pettitte is either #5, after Kennedy, or #1 before Wang, which would make Mussina his expected #3!)
sos: If it’s the Boston game, it just ended. If it’s the Yankee game, it’s blacked out.
evening all, someone get jorge some ice
i gotta agree about paulie… he could have put the issue to bed but he kinda just made the people even talking about it have some worth. paulie, tell them that the hawk is a good player and move on.
I don’t usually do this, but I’m going to repost by OTHER brilliant post from the previous thread, where I discuss, #21, Joba’s fist pumps AND the always popular who should and should not be booed!
I said last night that it was extremely tasteless to boo any Yankee last night, opening night. You just don’t boo your own team, especially not in the circumstances of being introduced. What a welcome for La Troy Hawkins, huh? THIS is the house that Ruth built? I don’t think so. Even Farnsworth, before the first game of the season, deserved only applause – as in, welcome to the 2008 season, let’s be in this thing together!
Everyone is free to feel about a player whatever way they want to, but it shows absolutely no class to boo a player who works hard, and certainly to a boo a player who has no Yankee record whatsoever. And my mom always taught me, if you don’t have something good to say, say nothing at all. So, you don’t have to boo; just don’t cheer.
Paul O’Neill was a huge part of the 90’s Yankee Dynasty, no doubt. I personally don’t think his number should be retired, but in point of fact, it is not retired and if a player is assigned that number they should not be made to feel awful about wearing it (Ensberg), nor should they be a pariah for having chosen it (Hawkins). It is, quite simply, childish.
You can’t have it both ways with Joba’s fist pumps. You can’t say it’s obnoxious from anyone else who does it, and then excuse it for Joba because he is young and excited. So, Papelbon is not allowed to be excited? K-Rod is not allowed to be excited? Either you like the fist pump or you don’t, Yankee or not a Yankee. I wish they’d all tone it down just a teeny bit, but I really don’t think it does much real harm. It might fire a team up here or there, and it may annoy fans, but in the end, it’s not a big deal, and it’s part of the game. It’s certainly not the same as doing a dance in the endzone. If the team doesn’t like it, they will address it with Joba and it will be a non-issue. If the team has no issue with it, then it’s still a non-issue.
As for numbers that maybe should not have been retired? I say Billy Martin. He’s more of a folk hero than a “great Yankee,†even if he did bleed pinstripes. I also would say it would not bother me if Reggie’s number wasn’t retired, either. Yes, he was integral to those great years in the late 70s, but he wasn’t a Yankee for so long. Gator, maybe, too. Made great contributions, had a fantastic ‘78 season. But there’s got to be a distinction between a player whose number warrants being retired (Babe Ruth, Lou Gherig, Yogi, Whitey Ford), and those players who should be commemorated without having their numbers retired (most of the others). And maybe time needs to pass, 8 years after a player retires, maybe, before his number is retired, because emotions run way too high immediately after. Maris, too, maybe should not have been retired. Great year, wonderful accomplishment. But he’s not among the first person you think of when you think of great Yankees.
So i saw that Bowa got suspended for 3 games and fined for freaking out at Ed Montague (i think that’s who it was eitherway he freaked at an umpire). I can understand it because he was out of line. but watching the video, apparently it started because the umpire gave Bowa a hard time about not being in the coaching box. whatever. but the thing that pisses me off is that when joe torre is there holding Larry back, the umpire never backs down and is trying just as hard to get in Bowa’s face. i just think it’s absurd how it never seems that umpires get in any trouble for anything. i’ve seen them antagonize players and coaches in the past and nothing happens.
just a random rant. i hate umps sometimes.
la yanks fan-
thats a far drive from me (i live in the valley) but do alot of yanks fan show up there ? its good to know i might have to go there for a big game this year, i’ve been dying for a place to go ever since i moved out here.
steph-
thats way too far from me. but sounds cool.
Rebecca,
It just shows it as loading. I had the same problem yesterday and had to remove the program(mocrosoft silverlight). I guess ill have to remove it again.
Could Posadas shoulder be the reason why he bounced the last throw to Jeter yesterday?
SoS: what computer/OS/web browser do you use?
Doreen – i agree 100% re:21… well said
Keep an eye on AJ Burnett’s pitch selection tonight. He was unable to throw his curveball all spring due to a broken fingernail until his final spring start – and he got hit hard when he threw it.
The Yanks can feast on the fastball if Burnett can’t keep them off balance with any off-speed stuff.
I predict 6+ runs tonight for the Yanks. I don’t care what AJ’s stats against them were last season.
Burnett, especially, pitches better late in the season. His ERA is 1.30 better after the AS break.
Get ready for some runs – let’s hope.
Wow Doreen, you rock. That post was awesome and on the money top to bottom. I felt the same way about “fans” booing Kyle Farnsworth. I’m embarassed to admit I’m a Yankee fan when crap like that happens! Absolutely no excuse for it. And definitely classless.
About Joba, I actually took what Joba did as a show of emotional release rather than trying to show anybody up. He managed to get the Big Hurt out and yeah he was pumped. It isn’t like we were up by 5 runs. And here’s another thing for whatever it’s worth. Papelsmear is a big fat overblown walking egomaniac who thinks he is Mariano’s replacement and who thought he should be paid more than the fools in beantown were paying him – and they did it. His second full year in the majors. So when he has that ugly little scowl mouth on the mound or does his little victory pumps, I see that as TOTALLY different from someone like Joba who is probably one of the most humble kids you’ll ever meet. I see Papelsmear’s as “aren’t I great” while I see Joba’s as “yahoo I got the job done!” I’m sure that doesn’t count for anything in terms of people who don’t like any show of emotion, but I do think it’s accurate in terms of their personalities.
rebecca,
Im not too computer litterate. i have windows xp and i use yahoo. I dont know if that answered the question. I just removed the program again. Will have to use the old version. Thank you for your concern though.
S.o.S.27-
I have a Big, Giant Catholic family. But tri-state area is loaded with good looking men and women. We’re a magnet, we attract everyone who is sharp and creative. It’s the reason why so many photographers live here – kinda like how robbers knock over banks, cuz that’s where the money is at.
And as Chicago Dave(expat-new yawker) would testify, the windy-city is a very close second (all those central euro transplants).
Doreen,
to no surprise, you bring a welcomed voice of reason!
thank you
Trisha.
OK. Wow. Best of luck with that view. Again, wow.
All. Good luck this eve.
Have a good night.
-dennis
Doreen,
The same people that booed Hawkins are the ones who booed Jeter and Rivera a couple years back for struggling. Their not going to change.
Doreen – Excellent post
As much as we all want Jose Canseco to go away I don’t think it is going to happen. Just saw this in the NY Daily News:
“At Canseco’s book signing in midtown today, the power hitter-turned-author had some unexpected guests, who weren’t present to collect the slugger’s autograph. Victor Burgos and Eduardo Dominguez, two members of MLB’s newly formed Department of Investigations, visited the Barnes & Noble at 46th and Fifth Ave. to introduce themselves to Canseco and to try to set up a meeting.”
“We had no clue. They just showed up, out of the blue,” Robert Saunooke, Canseco’s attorney, told the Daily News. “They said, ‘We would like Jose to come help us.
Dennis, I actually haven’t uncovered anything that hasn’t come straight from Papelsmear’s mouth! It’s not my imagination.
If the poor Jays pitching staff stayed healthy they would definitely have a staff to be recokened with! You talk about snake bitten!!!
My prediction for tonight re: Moose. He is going to have some of his best stuff going. We’ll see whether my perspicacity goes unfettered!
Enjoy the game all.
Dennis,
trisha seems like one of the most biased people I’ve ever heard… but at least she is biased to the best team in baseball
DR.-I have a Big, Giant Catholic family.
If all those hott ladies are family. I take it back. Id hate to be you. Very nice family i must say.
Hey. Keep up the good work. I enjoy and appreciate what you bring to this blog.
Oh Boston Dave you’re just sore that those awesome position players for Detroit once again showed why they’re a force to be reckoned with! Don’t blame me that you haven’t yet realized that I possess infinite knowledge.
SoS: I mean, do you use Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc? You’re probably better off with Mozilla.
All right everyone, LET’S GO YANKEES!
Fran,
Canseco keeps basically admitting that he “brokered” drug deals. It’s amazing that he brags about it and that there is apparently no legal recourse against him. It’s one thing to be a user, but this guy helped other guys buy illegal drugs.
Rebecca and all
I’m a Mac user and am haveing fits trying to get MLB audio to work
Safari which I used last rear just stutter steps.
I missed the game last night and was only able to follow it here via post ( thanks everyone for the updates)
Any body else haveing problems and is there a solution?
I’m even ready to dust off the old XP machine just for baseball
dale d
Good luck Mussina. Let’s get a win tonight.
Rebecca- I spent a long time in the frozen tundra of Iowa and in the slush of New Hampshire, and babysitting for every neighbors’ dog, within a 5 mile radius. Well, atleast they taught me how scratch the back of my head, using only my feet.
Doreen- Right ON! and your right, those posts are brilliant. You should never-ever boo one of your teammates and that’s what we are – a team. That’s why Jerkoff Giuliani is persona non-grata: selling us out to the rEd Sox!!
trisha,
I’m just glad you’re a Yanks fan. You would be the most unbearable and intolerable Red Sox fan on the planet
cmon Moose!!!
I’ve used Safari for audio before and haven’t had any trouble…are you using Silverlight?
If you can’t watch the game, I guess I’ll do a live blog.
Dave, oh God I am. I almost feel bad for Sux fans who have to deal with me. ALMOST. I am OPPRESSIVE! But accurate.
Go Moose!!!!
Okay, Giambi, you’ve gotta be a bit better than that.
Good to see the bleacher creatures are in mid season form.
Okay I am going to put myself on the line and guess that Moose has 5 really good innings at least. 1-5. I hope I’m right.
oh jason… i guess you cant blame him moose didnt get there in time either
Pete,
stop jinxing the players
“It was a one-run game and the Big G stayed out there on defense. He moved pretty well tonight and made several nice plays in the field.”
Giami booted it, Mussina didn’t get to the bag and Giambi lost the foot race…2 errors in ne play
That one is on Moose, he needs to cover first or else some may call him a fat pussie toad.
Dale: Try firefox. Firefox is microsoft compatible, I don’t think safari is.
Okay, c’mon Yanks, time to settle down and start playing.
Great outing Moose!
/sarcasm
not starting out great..did molina boot it?
Boston Dave,
Exactly. He did introduce players and dealers in many cases. And now MLB’s Department of Investigations is going to use him as a source. Jose has not been in baseball for a long time. Maybe they should just let go of the past and concentrate on keeping the game clean today.
keep the damn ball down
This is an amazing display of old people playing bad baseball.
The need for Chamberlain to replace Mussina in the rotation may soon become more pressing than the need for an 8th inning man.
Oh boy…please get a DP.
Come on Mussina. Get out of this
Exactly like that.
Mussina getting hit already. 1-0 Toronto. No outs. Giambi laxed on that play, but when you throw 85 mph then you can get hit, but Arod turns DP.. Thank God!!
Thanks for listening, Moose! Now get out of the inning.
Vernon Wells is just…not very good anymore. That was a very hittable pitch, and he did exactly what you shouldn’t try to do with a pitch like that.
Trisha.
I respect your fanship. Joba says its “not about the money” Cmon. ridiculous. Paps says he is setting the bar for future closers. Cmon. ridiculous. Is Joba in much better shape than Paps? I guess I will take your word on the subject….Certainly does not look like it.
All: What willl the delta be between OAK wins and TOR wins? I predict OAK has 76 and TOR has 86 at best.
Good Karma- dennis
Guys he has gotten the groundballs and a bloop hit relax geez.
Fran,
Selig and MLB claimed the Mitchell Report was done to get all of this in the past. If they make any further investigation of past events, it will be a complete contradiction to that.
the big hurt will strike out
That looked awfully good.
Let’s not jump on Moose yet.
It’s cold out, his first start, etc. It’s early and neither of the hits were that hard.
yes, these are excuses. no, a bad start here doesnt mean Moose will never win another game.
Time in game before people start calling for the time of death of Moose – 0.1 of an inning, lol.
Good inning Moose!
Mike Mussina had a bit of bad luck, Giambi should have made that first out, then the nice hit into the gap, and then the bloop. He had an alright inning.
All right, let’s get Moose some run support!
Not too much damage. Nice recovery.
Well, Mussina definitely looked much worse in his first start last year. The Orioles battered him, if I recall correctly.
Hey that’s pretty much what we can hope for from Moose. All things considered he didn’t do too badly. If he can give up a couple here and there I’ll be happy.
Glad he got out of the inning relatively unscathed.
Like I said a little while ago, watch Burnett’s pitch selection.
I think it will be lots of fastballs – and I’m sure the Yanks know this.
Moose is looking good so far. That was a lucky unearned run.
If he can keep the ball on the ground, it shouldn’t be too bad. Unless all of those balls find holes.
Update:
Pedro out 4-6 weeks
!
Time for some runs
Mussina’s command might not be good enough for him to survive the year with that kind of fastball. While he’s got the reputation for Maddux-like control, and low BB/9 rates, watching him over the last few seasons, he misses his spots within the zone quite often, leaving a lot of fastballs up. That’s why he got clobbered last year. And it’s hard to be confident that won’t continue.
Nice job Moose getting out of that inning with only 1 unearned run.
How often this year are we gonna hear about Cano “someday” hitting 3rd?
Although Jeter, Cano, A-Rod, Abreu is a pretty good 2-5.
Ouch, sucks for the Mets’ rotation. Wonder who they’ll try to plug in…they’ll probably have to sign somebody. Maybe Jeff Weaver…haha.
oops
Why all the FB Boston Dave?
Wow. Pedro’s out for that long? I guess the mets will sign jeff weaver now
where’s CB??
Uh, that wasn’t a strike.
c’mon johnny
Bad Scooter,
they are talking about it now on ESPN
broken fingernail for Burnett
Glad I’m not a Mets fan O_O
Good to hear Sheppard…it just doesn’t feel right without him.
8 pitches, 8 fastballs
yah Jete!
Mets’ll sign Claudio Vargas from Brewers.
Nice hit!
Thanks BD. So far you’re right. All FB’s.
As long as Jeter can do that, he’ll hit .300. It’s the key to his entire offensive game.
dale d:
This is what you want.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/wmcomponents.mspx
It plays MLB audio (Windows Media format) on your Mac without any issues.
- KMT
Boston Dave – Agreed but when did that ever stop Selig.
The Mets have nothing to trade, so they’re probably going to have to sign someone.
First curve.
Ron,
you act as though .300 is a hurdle for Jeter – he hits .300 every year
Hit #2 for Derek. 198 to go.
Good hustle by Abreu.
Bad Scooter,
AJ did throw the curve in his final spring start (for the first time) but it was hit hard.
It looks like he’ll be able to mix it in tonight, unfortunately… but I still expect more fastballs than usual.
Jetes will hit .300 with his eyes closed. if abreu has a big power year, he might hit .345 again
Oh well, we give A-Rod a fresh at bat next inning.
I am so tired of the automatic out calls by umps. He seemed to be in position, but on the replay Abreu was clearly safe.
He looked safe…but that wasn’t good! Yankees need to score a bunch tonight.
Caught stealing…ugh
Exactly. He retains a lot of value because he hits above .300. Were that to stop, he loses a lot of offensive value, because his power has been sapped in recent years and while he’s patient enough, he isn’t exactly Giambi at the plate.
slo mo says abreu was safe at second grrrrrr
Noooo not Guiseppe Franco. One thing I did NOT miss about the baseball season. *cringe*
Ron,
no doubt…. but he is pretty consistent at least.
Jeter has the right swing to continue hitting singles and doubles to right field…I can’t see him not hitting .300. But let’s hope he doesn’t eventually become what Bernie was in his last season…a bad fielding singles hitter.
c’mon mooser!
Apparently the outside corner does not exist for Mr. Meals.
when the throw beats Abreu that badly, he’s not going to get the close call
that said, the umps were HORRIBLE last season and arent off to a good start
Geeze turn ya back and there’s 100 new posts!
Moosey done good. He will be fine. Just watch.
Boston Dave is right. Cripes give the guy a chance. It’s cold out there!
Damon doesn’t have the plate patience that he once had.
Ok Moose, we know you can do this, so let’s go!
Prediction:
NYY 6
TOR 3
Mussina: 6 IP, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 H, 4 SO
Player of the Game: Robbie Cano; 3-4, 2 2B, 3 RBI
Someone needs to write “The ship is sinking” on Moose’s whiteboard.
Anyone else think it looks like Moose is getting squeezed on some pitches, or is it just my Yankee bias?
Moose is a very bright guy. But he’s stubborn as hell. It seems like almost all of his walks come when he repeatedly tries to hit the outside corner of the plate and fails, either because he misses by an inch, or the ump doesn’t give it to him. You’d think he’d try something else to avoid a leadoff walk.
Brad–he saw 6 pitches. That was six pitches for Derek to see and for sure helped with the base hit.
Not that people need to be applauded for doing their job… but it’s refreshing that Orel Hersheiser actually does some research on teams and knows what he’s talking about.
eek
Come on Moose. You can do this
If Mussina doesn’t settle down soon he may make Girardi have to re-think the idea of a long reliever.
used to be in high school when the batter missed like that we’d fall on our back in the outfield
It does look like some of the pitches have been borderline.
there ya go trish and Ron!
woo hoo!
Michael Kay doesn’t seem to grasp the idea that when you are 38 years old and have a “bad year,” it’s quite unreasonable to expect things to get considerably better. If this weren’t true, players could keep playing until they were 100 years old.
This is painful to watch. Moose is trying to get them to swing at pitches off the plate but his stuff is so average they are just waiting for a good pitch to hit.
Now he gets the outside corner? Crazy.
K#1
First K of the year for Moose!
Hey guys, does anyone know why the strike out abbreviation is K, anyway?
Fran–I don’t think there’s a “settling down” issue. He’s not getting some calls, he had a bad luck first inning and, so far, there’s been one hard-hit ball against him.
Moose is definitely trying to pinpoint the outside corner – already a few hits to the opposite field
nice job Moose!
Never let it be said that I do not appreciate the double play!
Well, Moose seems to have found the 5-4-3 pitch. I wish he’d stop badly needing it.
niiiice…. 2 double plays in two innings!!! MOOOOOSE!
Is cano’s feet even on the bag?
Rebecca,
that is an excellent question
I think it’s because “S” was already taken for sacrifice
Rebecca–”K” is the last letter in “struck”
See Boston Dave – they say patience is a virtue. I hope we get more virtuous posters here!
Good one, Moose.
Rebecca, the strikeout abbreviation is K because of the three lines that make up the K, representing the 3 strikes. At least thats what I think.
Yankees Ben–ah, the long-standing “neighborhood play.” Widely accepted.
Straight Dope explains, we owe the “K” to an early sportswriter named Henry Chadwick. In fact, Chadwick and another writer named M.J. Kelly are largely responsible for the scoring system baseball uses today.
But whence the K? Chadwick already had “S” slated for “sacrifice.” So a strikeout became a “K”, after the last letter of the word “struck.” The reason a strikeout isn’t a “T” is because “struck” was the preferred term of the day.
Elizabeth – good point. And he did get out of the second inning nicely.
yankees ben
i was thinking that also
umps are always lenient on the DP and touching 2b but cano seemed to be more off than usual
ill take it
I’d wager at least 30 percent of the DPs turned in the bigs involve the use of the “neighborhood call.”
…He had to mention the “ha” game.
And Pete, you’ll get no weather sympathy from me. Sorry man. Barely touched 40 here today and people were walking around in t-shirts.
I’m taking it too, he just has to watch next time someone tell him.
it just occurred to me that you guys are watching YES. I am relegated to ESPN2… but Hersheiser is pretty good.
Ron,
at least
Wait. Let me get it straight. After everything that happened last year Burnett has an opt-out?
Do teams never learn?
Apparently AJ Burnett’s finger is not bothering enough.
Watching Moose this year is going to be tough b/c a lot of people want to run him out of town on a rail.
The bad news is that if we drum him out of the rotation we essentially lose Joba as Mr. Eighth Inning.
I just hope that Moose can hang tough and get his fastball up to the minimum he needs to be effective. We are a better team with him winning 12-14 games this year and holding his own rather than trying to reinvent the wheel mid-season.
I’ve never heard him call baseball, but it’s gotta be better than when he calls football.
that hit CAno, right??
Okay, next inning, Yankees, let’s have some offense, ‘kay?
Thursday’s scheduled starter, Dustin McGowan, has been sent back to the hotel for Wednesday’s game because of flu-like symptoms.
It’s possible McGowan will be pushed back, with Shawn Marcum being moved up to Thursday.
It looked like it could have grazed the sole of his foot, but there was no shoe polish on the ball, so they didn’t call it.
mmmkay
I hate that damn 2K8 commercial.
“I said 2K, K? Its not even funny
how’s this for optimism: at least they are working some sort of pitch count (unlike last night)
Rob–oh, it’s gotta be at least 50%, but it’s an injury issue for the SS/2B. If he’s on the bag, or even touching it, there’s a much greater risk for injury from the runner. I’m sure that’s why the umps turn a blind eye.
Scuse my ever-present optimism but I think Moose will be just fine. Not having been injected with worry genes, I can actually live through games when he isn’t – or they’re not. Hell everyone’s entitled to off days and nights.
A marathon, not a sprint.
173, right Mel?
I’m guessing we’ll get at least 3 runs before the night is over.
“Wait. Let me get it straight. After everything that happened last year Burnett has an opt-out?
Do teams never learn?”
Well, Burnett signed his contract almost 2 years before A-Rod’s opt-out
See, not even executives of other teams have divination skills
you can do this Mussina
another injury report:
JJ Putz on the 15day DL
“Putz has mild costochondritis on his right side. Costochondritis is inflammation where cartilage attaches to a rib. “
Boston Dave:
I second that, Orel is very good and doesn’t beat around the bush or pump constant cliches like that horrible broadcast team which includes Orestes Destrade and Candy Maldonado.
Moose looks zoned in now. Good!
Does anyone (I’m sure everyone) remember that Moose start back in September v. Toronto when Cano recorded all those put-outs? What was the number?
Chris Berman is one of the worst that ESPN has to offer.
WHAT???
strike 3
Dang, that WAS squeezed.
Can anyone say “Squeezed”. This is ridiculous.
Damn you Alex Rios!!!!
Ugh.
Argh!
Oh man…..
…Thank you umpire. Grar.
Oh well, we’ll get some runs later.
Boston Dave- who would we rather the Yanks face – Marcum or McGowan?
Mussina sucks, we will not win a game this year with him pitching
Moose needs to learn not to be perfect…even when he’s getting pinched. His stuff isn’t bad but he tries to make a perfect pitch every time.
Oh frack
He should have been out of that inning…Rios should have K’d.
How much longer do we have to watch Mussina nibble on the corner with a 40 mph fastball? 1 inning was already enough watching him is putting me too sleep.
Give some young kids a chance, Mussina is just more of the same.
I don’t think Mussina sucks. I think though that he gets frustrated when the umpire sucks…
Gitmo Actual… go ahead.
Damn you, Mussina!!!!
Now for my prediction to be accurate you have to pitch 4 more innings without allowing a run?!!? Great, I’m gonna be wrong two days in a row.
what is with the umpires so far this year – lots of bad calls (i.e. yesterday’s white sox game)
the 2-2 pitch was a ball to Rios, but the 3-2 curve was definitely a strike. you knew Wells would hit one out to make the call really knock you in the teeth
Hey I could read Alec Baldwin’s lips and it looked like he was calling someone a selfish little pig.
Wow that was a terrible call….
Get used to this crap with Mussina. He’s washed up, plain and simple. His fastball just isn’t good enough to keep any hitter honest.
Meanwhile, Boston’s starting pitching has been much bettter than NY’s.
Everyone is being way overcritical of Mussina’s outing so far.
Bronx Liaison
I agree – first close pitch, not so close, but the 3-2 definitely looked like a strike to me — at least through the tv screen!
I plan to attend the Angel’s series in August and was wondering if anybody has any seating advice? Any particular seats I should avoid? If you could choose any seat in the stadium would it be behind home plate or maybe between the bases.
*correction: 3 innings
Sheesh is it that hard to show Moose some support, despite the score? The game isn’t over yet.
Hm…when my family and I go to the series in Anaheim, we usually sit out in the outfield. Last year we were in section 101, which is good because it’s right next to the pen and you can watch everything in there. You can sometimes get the players to talk to you if you yell loud enough or they’re just coming in the pen.
Dennis,
I hope you don’t mind my jumping in, but I wrote the same thing that trisha did. I may be biased, but I’m definitely rational.
Anyway, we’re not the only ones who think it’s hilarious that Papelbon thinks he’s the one carrying the torch for closers. A couple of closers kind of chuckled and basically said that Papelbon’s a little too young to be worried about that.
Nah, everyone has to trash Moose right away. Remember: if a pitcher gives up a run, they’re done.
Baseball blows! Game over.
Fran,
tough call – both guys are pretty good but the Yanks did alright against both last season. I think McGowan will have a better season (just my personal opinion) but both are pretty good and feature multiple pitches (McGowan throws harder).
I vote for Jesse Litsch
The starting piching is going to be close to a disaster, imo. And nowhere near the quality of Boston’s.
Guess CMW forgot that rule and forgot to lose after giving up two runs last night, Steph.
george,
and Boston has had to face the fierce Oakland lineup too!
wait….
“Meanwhile, Boston’s starting pitching has been much bettter than NY’s.”
Shoot. After 12 innings we are behind in the arms race. Because Lester and Matsuzaka looked great in their first starts of the season [ed. note, sarcasm/] They looked better the past two days but two days does not a season make. How do people like you survive the ups and downs of… I don’t know.. life?
Is. Dr Acula a professional photographer? How did he get those great shots?
The last pitch to Rios definitely looked like a strike, but a good or even decent pitcher can’t let that bother them. Mussina looks like he is going to cry after every single pitch that he doesn’t get. Then since his emotions are up the next pitch usually gets whacked. He has been doing it for years. Its pathetic already, just get people out!!!!
Guys. It’s April 2nd. Seriously. Normally, we won’t have a Mussina/Burnett match up. It’s not even mid-fourth yet.
Mussina got squeezed and Wells should have been out. It didn’t happen, oh well, you move on.
are we being attacked by trolls or just idiots?
But…like…Wang is the worst pitcher EVER! Except for Moose. Moose is worse. But then Wang is the worst. Those 2 runs were more than he’s ever given up before!
Hitters are showing in incredible amount of patience for this early in the season. That’s a really good sign.
As for Moose — he’s finished. You can’t compare him to some of the other “old” guys because he doesn’t, nor did he ever, have the kind of movement on his fastball as say, a Maddux. You can talk all day about how intellectual of a pitcher he is, but you can’t “think” the ball past too many pro hitters. He may have some brief moments, but little movement + low velocity = meatball.
from the NJ.com blog (sorry if it’s a repeat):
On the whiteboard next to his locker, Mike Mussina wrote the following:
1 year contract w/Yankees
$1.75 mill
White Rangerover
$75,000
Getting 50 dollar cellphone ticket in Harlem
Priceless
– M. Ensberg
Yep, Morgan Ensberg was pulled over on the way home after the season opener and popped for talking to his brother in Los Angeles on his cell phone.
Well the game’s no fun, but Paul O’Neill is even better behind the mic than he is at beating up water coolers. I love him riding shotgun, he’s great.
Giambi = pantherlike
Giambi is very shaky in the field…
Hey Nick I care about the score today. I also care that the blind (or bought) ref couldn’t see the fact that Hleb was pulled down in the box. Scousers can go on about their away goal and European nights at Anfield but they are gonna get theirs. Arsenal are gonna stuff on Saturday and go through on Tuesday with a 2-2 draw. COME ON YOU GOONERS!
Now can someone send Mussina home early and tell our players the games started.
Thanks
Nyyfan
I prefer behind the plate – even if up high.
Bleachers are hardcore- just so you know.
Best bang for the buck are sections 1-8 tier reseve mvp
face value is about 30 bucks.
Will be a lot more on stub-hub.
I’ve never really had a bad seat though.
“and Boston has had to face the fierce Oakland lineup too!
wait…”
Do you really think Mussina will shut down the A’s like Boston’s starters did? We’ll see. Moose throws a mid 80’s fastball and a rolling breaking ball and sulks and pouts if a call doesn’t go his way. He’s a gutless, whiny punk and gets the honor of the first (of many) NY losses this season.
Boston Dave: I thought they were the same thing?
Abreu can’t field either.
So what happened? Moose got squeezed. Walked the next guy and gave up a homerun after that?
Yankees have scored 3 runs in 12 innings thus far.
Sorry Pete and ANYONE else who wants to defend Mussina…but I felt this way last year and am CERTAINLY feeling this way tonight: Mussina’s time is done here.
I was NEVER confident with him pitching last year, and I don’t think he’s going to get very many wins this year unless they Yankees can consistently give him 7 or 8 runs.
Yeah, this season is over. We should award the World Series right now to a random team that has its name drawn out of a hat.
If Moose can keep them at 3 for 6 innings, I’ll like our chances.
Whoo! Now let’s score some runs.
Our starting pitching kicks Boston’s ass. Moose is a pitcher’s pitcher. Toronto has a very good offense, totally unlike Oakland. If you’re going to compare the pitching please don’t be ridiculous enough to do it on two games!
Trust me, Lester will end up getting his butt kicked, Beckett will have blisters and back bumps, Schilling is already on the DL, Wakefield will get rocked when his knuckler isn’t knuckling, and the jury is out on Matsuzaka. He’s noted for having some bad innings during most games.
Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, Hughes, Kennedy? Yeah I’ll take it 24-7.
george,
i actually agree with you on one point. the yanks will have many losses – around 65 or so.
George did you see Matsuzaka walk the ball park in game one of the season and Lester look like absolute garbage in his first start? Or are we only counting the good starts this season? That’s a charmed life you’re living
Good throw there, Molina!
He didn’t get squeezed…the pitches to Rios were both outside…not close. Sorry, but that’s the way it is.
no point in responding to the trolls
my fault
Wakefield doesn’t have his catcher anymore, either.
this is as good as mussina will pitch all year.
I think Mussina will be fine once he comes to the realization that he can’t paint the corners all day and get every call and he’s gonna have to pitch with more guile. If so, I believe he can go 14-10 with a 4.5 and maybe 180 innings.
John,
the last pitch was pretty close. it may have crossed the bottom part of the zone. if the ump is consistent, then fine. we’ll see if he is. that’s all you can ask for.
Who’s George?
Shouldn’t feed the trolls, let’s just let him live in his imaginary world.
Come on now! 3 runs is certainly something we can overcome. Moose is hanging in there. Just need to put a string of good AB’s together. I need this after the Arsenal game today wich they thoroughly deserved. COME ON YOU REDS!
And let’s remember that the lousy start last year cost the Yanks the division race vs Boston. These games matter and the Yanks looks pretty flat and tired already. They didn’t look very good last night, either. Is this the great offense everybody talks about? They’ll need to score a ton of runs with that starting rotation.
Burnett is done. Runs are right around the corner.
lets wait a while before crucifying Mussina
its 40 degrees out and the first game of the season for him
George is the President. That’s why he’s leaving those types of comments, of course.
Stan,
relax. They beat Halladay, one of the best pitchers in all of baseball.
Meanwhile a pitcher who gives up two ER to an offense that has Vernon Wells, Alex Rios, the Big Hurt, Shannon Stewart, David Eckstein and Lyle Overbay isn’t doing badly!
Did anyone just hear Orel’s take on Jeter?
Basically just called him the daddy-mac a second before calling him a great role model..
Should not have run there…..
Jeter falls asleep….
Argh!!!
Derek. Come on now. You’re smarter then that.
Shucks!
C’mon Jeeets….Rios was right there in front of you. Man.
there is aggressive and then there is over-aggressive…it’s a fine line
Teddy,
If Moose gets those #’s that would be HUGE.
As CB always says, look at what a league average #4 or #5 starter puts up.
That was a bad decision by El Capitan.
Stan is obviously George or his bestfriend, dont feed the trolls Boston, anyone who calls a team flat after a graet win last night in game two of the season in a trollaholic
Bronx,
I heard it and it was pretty funny.
something about him getting the hot ladies who won’t talk?
“Come on now! 3 runs is certainly something we can overcome.”
Just like Brett Favre didn’t want to be out there vs the Giants in the NFC Championship due to the cold, the Yanks don’t look like they want to be on the field tonight.
And I agree that NY looks primed for another early season slow start. Boston has come out ready to play, as usual. Why should they take these games more seriously than the Yanks?
I don’t think Jeter saw Rios come in on that play, if you watch where he’s looking. If he’d seen him he never would have gone. If Rios is not there, Jete’s safe by a mile
the trolls are out tonight
Typical early season “we don’t care” play by the Yankees. Nice job, Captain!!!
Told ya so!
I thought we won last night? Was I wrong about that? And we beat maybe the best pitcher in the game.
OOOOO. I have grave fears about the Yankees.
Boston Dave
I respectfully disagree. The overhead shot showed them to be outside. Especially Ball 4.
Just ignore it.
Yea, league average for the #5 slot in the rotation is what, an ERA of 6? Definitely over 5 (seriously, the fifth slot is just horrible 0.o. Can’t seem to find the article on Yahoo Sports about it now, drat)
“something about him getting the hot ladies who won’t talk?”
haha yep. He meant well but it did not come out right
OOOOOH, this is a great offense! LOL!
3 runs in 2 games…
Doreen, you know they say the difference between idiocy and genius in baseball is making the play. Jeter got thrown at second. BFD. If he didn’t everyone would be doing cartwheels.
Every flipping pitcher in our rotation pulled up with a hammy and we set a record for starting pitchers – and still we came within 2 games of winning the division. Wake up people. The Yankees are far superior to the Dead Sux, always have been and always will be.
Umm. Guys. Listen up.
1) We WON last night. And in the standings a win is a win is a win.
2) Mussina is not pitching horribly, he made ONE obvious mistake, and he will not normally be pitching in the two spot. He is pitching there tonight while Andy is on the DL.
3) Game’s not over yet.
4) Even if we lose, it’s the second game of the season! If you forget, the NY Giants started 0-2 this year and they won the Super Bowl.
If you’re freaking out now, g-d help you if we miss the playoffs one year.
Um what was Bostons offense for the first 12, 13 innings? Do us a favor Shandi just shut you mouth and jog on.
Giambi doesn’t like ESPN
Giambi is very awkward in the field lol
Molina’s trying to break Big G’s knees there.
giambi ok. Cats have 9 lives.
atta boy cameraman, save the camera not giambi…it was espn so im not surprised
Boy, Giambi’s top heavy.
Paul O’Neil is funny.
John,
I dunno. It at least looked close to me. Like I said, as long as the ump is consistent.. no big deal.
“The Yankees are far superior to the Dead Sux, always have been and always will be.”
They sure haven’t been superior since 2004. But don’t let that fact deter your stupidity.
And Boston is off to another nice start to this season, too. Not so for NY.
and by trolls you mean one sad sack signing in with 20 different screennames in all probability.
I am extremely leery of Mussina’s 2008, but he really is not getting hit hard tonight. A handful of ducksnorts falling in for hits with the lone exception being Vernon Wells’ homerun.
I do have to admit it’s pretty demoralizing for Moose to see Burnett throw his changeup at 87mph, when Mussina is topping out around there
shandi that happens when you face good pitching. Anyway, a win is a win. And taking the division is taking the division. And 26 world championships is 26 world championships. I can tell you’re new to the game. Just sit quietly and we’ll teach you. Kay? Or said another way, when a team makes the postseason 12 years in a row you know they’re doing something right and you don’t vomit on your shoes with fear because they don’t score 10 runs every night! Now stop worrying. All will be fine and you’ll be able to dream of sugar plum fairies! PINKY PROMISE!
There have really been a lot of dinks and dunks Moose has given up tonight.
Kind of evens out with some of the hard-hit balls the Yanks made nice plays on last night.
“3) Game’s not over yet.”
Sorry to break it to you, but this game is absolutely, completely over. The Yanks haven’t been a good come-from-behind team for years now. They tend to just give up, which they clearly have already done tonight. But enjoy this lethargic performance.
Alright, found the article thanks to Google
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=takethefifthexaminingbot&prov=tsn&type=lgns
League average ERA for the 5th slot in 2007 was 6.09. W-L percentage came out to 35.4%. Average # of starts going to 5th slot was 37.7
Nooooooooo, stop the David Eckstein “gritty” reminiscing!!!
ARGH.. they said intangibles. *scowls*
Wow George, really? Since 2004? A Whole whopping 4 years? That’s your leg to stand on? You mental midget. Go back to lovingly staring at your Ortiz poster in your room in your parents house.
“And Boston is off to another nice start to this season, too. Not so for NY.”
After 1 game and 4 innings, I believe the records are the same.
the DP machine!
don’t feed the trolls
Shandi your momma said she needs you to collect the money from her john and go to the corner store and buy the family some Ripple.
We’ll sure miss you though!
Mussina have not been pitching that poorly.
You are absolutely ridiculous Shandi. The game is absolutely, completely over trailing by 3 in the top of the 5th. Please. Your life must be over then if you are older than 25. Please. That last post just made a fool of yourself.
Incidentally, nice DP. Nice 5 innings from Moose.
Now THAT was a nice play.
Okay. Time to fix this three run hole thing.
great play by Giambi
People don’t feed the trolls.
Sorry Dave you’re right.
Last I looked the Yankees are still in first place and the DS are not.
You need to feed the trolls cause they need something to soak up the stupidity they are drunk on. Yes George i’m talking about you.
Flat Stanley playing 1B. lol. Nice play.
Runs. Let’s get some please
Detroit and their “potent” line-up lost two to KC and were shut out today. It is way too early in the season to get crazy.
Nice play by Giambi on a wild throw. A couple of more like that and we’ll see Giambi on the DL.
It’s time to put some runs on the board.
Hmm, post didn’t show up
If you google “yahoo sports take the fifth”, it should show up as the first result
League averages for 5th starters for 2007 season were 6.09 ERA, 37.7 starts, and a Win-Loss percentage of 35.4%
“Last I looked the Yankees are still in first place and the DS are not.”
The Yanks are in first place for about another hour, and then like last season, they’ll fall behind the Red Sox and will be looking up all season long. These games do matter.
Well, nevermind, it just took a while for the post to show up
someone correct me if I am wrong – didn’t the red sox just barely win their first game of the year and actually lose the second before winning yesterday and today?
Just wanted to make sure I was clear on that…
BOB = Boring Oafish Baboon.
It’s games like these where a guy like Gardner could lay down a bunt and create a run on his own.
“You need to feed the trolls cause they need something to soak up the stupidity they are drunk on. Yes George i’m talking about you.”
Mehndi,
I’m looking forward to watching the rest of this exciting Yankee ballgame tonight. The bats look awfully slow and overmatched, though!
Is anyone else watching on inDemand Extra Innings?
I keep forgetting to hit the mute button before that annoying commercial starts at the end of EVERY half inning. Ugh.
Rishi – correct. A voice of reason.
Anyone have any idea of Burnett’s pitch limit?
You know, some runs would be nice. Oh well, still four innings left.
@ Rishi
no idea, but i hope its now
I can’t believe some of the comments are so negative. It is only the second game. THE SECOND GAME.
If they lose, I think there is plenty of time to catch up. Geez.
Oh George,
How did they look yesterday to you? Were you on here yesterday running your mouth.
this game is horrendous the bats need to come alive… looks like we are lagging out there
Thanks Fran – just wanted to make sure I wasn’t the one living in an alternate reality…
They’re making him work…a little. Moose is @ 75 pitches. Burnett’s @ 73.
Nice, Damon!
I’m guessing the wind blew that ball back in the park.
That was pretty close.
Yeah Johnny!
so lets be honest here, i’ll take 5 innings and 3 runs from Moose everytime
The awful starting pitching…
The anemic offense…
Gotta love Yankee baseball!
Doesn’t look like Girardi made any difference in the intensity level.
One thing that nobody is mentioning…
AJ Burnett is pitching a hell of a game. Just like Halliday and Wang last night. Give him some credit. Moose is keeping us in the game, though you’ll never win scoring zero runs.
Nice catch by JD to keep us in the game.
we know the game plan – work the starter, get to the bullpen, score some runs…just need to get moving, that’s all.
here comes a double play
jimmy27 – thanks for the advice
Latroy Hawkins warming up in the pen.
I really thought Moose would pitch worse tonight than he has. It’s going to be time to get him out of there soon though.
Looks like we’ll see LaTroy Hawkins in pinstripes at the Stadium for the first time soon.
oops…a header…
It’s time to get Moose out. Thanks for giving us a strong 5.1, He did pretty good soft tossing to a nice lineup like Tor
And then there was the year the Yanks were behind 9.5 games in May of that season and came back to take the division.
And the year they started in Japan, played with an injured rotation, and STILL took the division.
Then there was the year that everyone pulled up with hammies and the Yankees set the record for starting pitchers and barely missed taking the division.
Then there was the year that the Dead Sux were the ONLY team in the league that had a rotation that was not on the DL once, and the Yankees had the top 4 in their rotation down simultaneously, and one of their pitchers decided to break his hand in September – and the Yankees STILL won the division.
Yeah, I really worry about the “we can only do it when other teams are hurt, but once in 64 years sure felt sweet!” losers from beantown who play in a green crapbox the size of my backyard.
YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this game on sopcast? Does anyone have a link?
I wonder if you’d like it for people to walk into your house and talk crap about you…especially when you can hide behind fake names…is that really how you show support for your team.
Just seems a bit pathetic to me.
I hope the crowd doesn’t boo when Hawkins comes in. I suspect they will.
What inning do they pull the countdown lever?
“AJ Burnett is pitching a hell of a game. Just like Halliday and Wang last night. Give him some credit.”
Okay, let’s keep track of Burnett’s next start and see if he waltz’s through the opposition as easily as he dominated and embarassed the yankee hitters tonight.
Maybe the Yanks just aren’t very good.
pitch counts at 88
The game is on ESPN2, YES, and MLB.tv…and I’m doing a live blog. Not sure about sopcast.
Joe T,
probably… but that’s a 5.40 ERA
Mussina is capable of better.
Perhaps the most value Mussina can bring is just to eat innings. So 6IP and 3 or 4 runs is ok. He just can’t get rocked in the first few innings and tax the bullpen.
Atta girl trisha.
Good stuff.
BOB you must be a genius if you can tell all of this by the second game of the season. Somehow though I just think you don’t know what you are talking about and you have sawdust in place of where your brain should be.
I think that they pull it in the middle of the 5th.
CT after this half and some of the SUPERBOWL CHAMPION NY GIANTS! will be doing the honors.
18 and 1 ….what a shame
Hey nobody should be underestimating Toronto. I pick them to finish second this year, right behind the Yankees!
Boston Dave
Same pitch…called a strike this time. Good call, sir.
ok BOB,
if Burnett wins his next game with a quality start (7+IP and 3 runs max), you can leave and never come back.
“Maybe the Yanks just aren’t very good.”
Well there goes any credibility to any of your future comments
Gotta take Moose out now.
Ridiculous pitch up in the zone.
sorry – i shouldnt be feeding the trolls
none of us should. ignore them – completely.
5.2 innings, 3 ER from the guy that is realistically the number 5 starter on your team…
…I can live with that.
Eh..
Not the best game.. Yankees seem cold and kind of out of it..
dammit really wasn’t pitching that poorly the HR to Wells was a bad one.
now praying Hawk can live through this inning w/ # 21
In defense of Moose – that is TWO bad throws from RF by Abreu. Bouncing the first up the 3rd base line on both is not good enough.
where’s abreu’s arm? two throws tonight went up the third base line
Good throw nails Wells at the plate.
I dunno about Moose, gang. Gutsy, but this is major league baseball. What was the highest he hit on the gun tonight? 85 – 86?
What I can’t live with is 0 runs with the best offense EVAR!!!
I find it difficult to comprehend those defending this pitching performance.
he did not do the job, just like the majority of last season. I’m looking forward to when we can finally replace him with a younger arm. Moose’s run was good but it’s been over for awhile now.
“BOB you must be a genius if you can tell all of this by the second game of the season.”
The Yankees look just as flat as they did early last season. And the fools here kept saying “it’s only april” and “it’s only may”. Well, April and May gave the division to the Red Sox.
Yankees never hit Burnett. He’s pitched a lot of quality games against the Yankees.
That Paul O’Neill chant still gives me chills.
Nice debut for Hawkins, one pitch, one out.
I can understand the offense struggling some.. That’s pretty normal early on, usually the pitchers have the advantage in the first few games..
Course, that logic makes me feel even worse about Moose’s night..
1 pitch, 1 out. Efficient.
Ah. Moose almost had him. He had done a good job of putting away hitters for most of the night.
Not what you want, but at least Moose didn’t have one of those big innings where a really crooked number goes up.
Remember, guys. 173*
Chris, we have to get used to good pitching beating good hitting. It happens. There are some really good pitchers on Toronto!
he lived
Do not feed the trolls!
Mike Mineo,
again, what was the league average ERA for a 4th and 5th starter?
who are you? veruca salt?
It’s 44 degrees and they are up against one of the better pitchers in the league when he’s healthy (which he is) against an aging Mike Mussina. Use a little common sense. You really gotta work on your wind ups better man. If what you said had any credibility then one might give you some credence.
Easy enough for Hawkins. Keep it at four runs, and if they can just get into the bullpen, the Yanks could get back into it.
“I find it difficult to comprehend those defending this pitching performance.”
Expectations
I see him as essentially the fifth starter. Given that, as long as he does better than a 6 ERA (last year’s league average for 5th slot), I’ll take it. (Yankees 5th slot had 5.98 ERA last year, btw)
It amazes me that the “red sox nation” has to come to our blog to post. How ridiculous. Don’t feed the trolls, they obviously do not know where they are or what they are doing.
Couple runs this inning, lets go boys.
MOOOOSEY is one of the Yankee starters? BWAAAHHHAAAHHAA!!
MOOOSEY with the 86 mph fastball!!! This is going to be a hilarious season!
Even if the Yankees aren’t “very good”, they’re our team. Why are you getting so worked up about it? Why do you even care? Don’t you have anything better to do? Don’t you have a job? Kids to raise? Buses to step in front of? Get a life.
Rebecca – i’m not watching (trying to get some work done at the same time), did they replay Paulie’s last game or was the crowd at today’s game chanting? Might want to set the DVR to catch that on the replay.
Yay Melky!
able to tell, a number of these posters, have never played baseball. This is not football. You cannot simply ‘will yourself’ to victory, every time out.
NYY ran into a excellent pitcher, on a cold night. End of story.
There ya go Melky, what da ya say now, hum-babe?
Rally.
Daddy I want an oompah loompah….. I want an oompah loompah NOW!!!!!!!!!
Mel, yes 173 is the number.
Bob is right, of course. It had nothing to do with all the hamstring injuries the Yankees had early last season. It’s because the Sux are well, so good! That’t why they only managed to take the division by 2 games when we set a record for starting pitchers with all our injuries!
(Don’t tell anyone, but I found his picture in the dictionary near the term “stupid bastard.”)
NEXT!
note to self:
see if Melky is available in my fantasy league
Rishi: Replayed from 01 WS.
Melky singles to start it off
6 innings 3 runs isn’t the job of a fifth starter? Someone is going to have to enlighten me as to what is reasonable to expect from one then. Apparently, I have lowered expectations.
Mike Mineo
I can’t disagree with you. He hasn’t been able to regain the velocity necessary to pitch the way he has in the past.
He’s shown an unusually affable personality this Spring, but that’s not gonna get any Major League hitters out.
Burnett’s stats against the Yankees last year: 1-0, 0.60 ERA, .160 BAA. The only team he pitched better against was the Royals.
excruciating
aaargh!!
I missed CMW already…
dammit Johnny 2 – 1 wait for the next pitch man..ok lets go
Something for you fools to pay attention to….watch how many of the runs come on yankee pitchers giving up hits with 2 outs or 0-2 and 1-2 counts.
I might have to switch Melky from reserve to active for my fantasy team…
But I really like my active outfield of Godzilla/Ichiro/Fukudome :/
DP
If Abreu makes a decent throw Mussina gets a quality start.
Offense needs to show up, AJ Burnett isn’t Cy Young. 3 Hits?
Nope, that won’t do it.
before anyone freaks out
Tim Redding pitched 7 innings of 1 hit ball tonight against the Phillies (one of the best offenses in the NL)
its the second game of the season – 173
and dont feed the trolls
Gah…another quick inning
Derek, come on man. We know you can do better than that.
is it me or is Jetes starting to kill rallys a bit..not alarmed but he led the AL in DPs last season
Kudos to Burnett. He’s pitched a great game.
Angel – nothing wrong with that – I’ll take that outing from Moose every time. The Yankees will score more then he gives up more often then not. 4 runs from your 5th starter is not a bad outing at all.
Burnett’s a hell of a pitcher. Tip of the cap if he holds us down!
A marathon, not a sprint.
82 counts only? I guess we will see Burnett again in the 7th…
yankee offense has forgotten the season started already, brutal yesterday at the dish and even worse tonight
This game is just like when Hughes made his debut last year vs Burnett and Toronto. Yankees couldn’t do anything vs him.
“is it me or is Jetes starting to kill rallys a bit..not alarmed but he led the AL in DPs last season”
It’s the 2ND game of the season.
not a good 0-2 pitch to their 9 hitter
“yankee offense has forgotten the season started already, brutal yesterday at the dish and even worse tonight”
Yes, it has nothing to do with the quality of the pitchers that were pitching.
Anyone know the song Jeter is coming out to now? It’s hard to hear it on MLB.TV over Kay’s voice.
great throw by Alex
Great play by A-Rod!
raymagnetic I’m not alarmed
damn nice play Alex
Hell of play A-Rod! MUCH better defensive start than last season.
Walk Rios
I just think his acceptible 5th starter outing is all the more magnified and open to criticism by the fact the offense is looking rather lethargic at the moment.
this is a bad team, folks!
Hey I figured that Doc might take yesterday’s game and he didn’t. I can’t be too upset.
LaTroy looks good.
Brandon he did not lead the league in GIDP – but had too many for my liking – that said – he’ll be fine
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=al&season=2007&seasonType=2&sort=GIDPs&type=exp&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=all
what – exactly – is a goerge?
Wow, nine straight strikes from Hawkins…
Gah-can’t O’Neill just say whether or not he minds Hawkins wearing his number and get it over with?
I have too many Yankees on my fantasy team for them not to score any runs.
Rios = good
Hawkins is awful. Should take Yankee fans a brief amount of time to figure that out.
“goerge” please get your green papers before returning here.
“goerge” what were you saying about the Yankees when they were 9.5 out in May?
“goerge” did it bother you in the past that the sux were always Toronto’s bitch?
“goerge” until you learn to spell your name I’m afraid nobody will ever take you seriously.
“goerge” please don’t take any of this as criticism because I feel that even the most stupid human being has the right to exist.
But “goerge” couldn’t you find somewhere else to exist?
BS that should have been strike 3
Another nice throw by Molina!
I hate Rios more than Ortiz at this point.
nice gun down Jose
Pete,,,,I totally agree with you about the rotation. I would expect this type of outing from Moose most of the time. If the lineup has a *MASH* night, then we will be OK…but so far tonight, it seems like the bats are asleep, huh ?
The bipolar nature of the game threads becomes annoying after awhile.
Its why many of us will rarely post in them this season.
Now we have the statheads coming out quoting run totals after TWO games.
I always wonder whether these folks are serious or they are just clueless about baseball.
If Mike Mussina gives them 30 starts like he gave them tonight, he will win 12-14 games this year.
He wasn’t awful and he wasn’t great. He is what he is at this point in his career. A #4 or #5 starter.
His results tonight are average for a guy in that slot.
A little too early to declare any player or team “over”.
Unless of course, you are doing it simply to attract attention to yourself.
Good job, Jose!
How is Rios so good.
Rudy
cmon now.
Well I guess the Washington Nationals are going to the World Series this year. They are 3-0.
That was a great at-bat by Rios. And a good effort by Hawkins. Kept throwing strikes; just got beat.
I know it’s been said to death, but if they’re going to insist on God Bless America at every game, they need a more inspiring version. This one’s cooked.
OOH — Saffron risotto!!!!
SJ: Thank you.
Don’t worry folks – I predict that the Yanks will score five runs this inning…
Oh…and just so I am clear…Hawkins may be a heck of a guy, no argument there, but I will remain confident that he will not be able to perform anywhere near where he needs to, to be a contributor. I truly hope that I am wrong, but I see the pressure of being a NYY being too much for him. I would expect that he would either get traded or sent down by the All Star break. Just my opinion. ( let the insults begin ! )
The highights of the Marlins game are hysterical. There is absolutely NOONE in the stands in Miami.
dont underestimate the weather
Phillies – 45 degrees – 1 hit by mediocre Nationals pitching
Detroit – 2 hits
Yanks – 40 degrees – only 4 hits through 6
Hawkins looks like another beauty of a signing by that idiot Cashman.
Don Vito,
where does he need to be? what #s?
I (heart) trisha
SJ, perfectly said. Mosse was fine tonight. Hughes will likely have to step up as the number 3 starter this year, with Moose and Kennedy at 4 and 5.
Credit to Burnett, who has pitched a great game. We still have 3 innings to come back, but no time to panic in game 2.
How about 3 runs this inning, then 3 runs the next ? GO YANKEES !!!
Now that is a start…
Boston Dave, I don’t understand your question.
“Hawkins looks like another beauty of a signing by that idiot Cashman.”
yeh your right I wonder how many relief pitchers don’t give up 2 singles in 2 innings
Hello everybody. Sorry I haven’t been posting more, this issue with my bowels makes it hard to sit very long.
SJ44,
unfortunately, you are right about the game threads
Peter may have to do something about it.
Thank you John in Ohio!!!!! I hope you don’t mind that the feeling is mutual. Anyone who has a pulse on the reality of the beantown losers has my deepest admiration!
Too bad he can’t ban trolls by their IPs
Don Vito,
“but I will remain confident that he will not be able to perform anywhere near where he needs to, to be a contributor.”
I am curious what your expectations are and what he needs to do to contribute.
Burnett has not given up a run in 15 straight innings at Yankee Stadium. that is embarrassing for the offense
YEH BABY !!
NOW STFU YOU BABIES!!!!!
Admit it.
You were wondering when that would happen.
WHOO!
Yeah, A-Rod!!!
Two down, three to go…
Here we go. I guess A-Rod will have to carry the yanks again this year
Nice. Alex. Nice.
I can see both sides of the “it’s only the 2nd game of the season”, and also see the side of “wow sometimes it’s hard to watch this offense” arguments. On one side, we all know it’s the second game, but what worries me is we haven’t faired to well against quality arms in the post season recently either (Carmona, Sabathia, Lackey) Good pitching beats good hitting. What are we going to face in the playoffs? Good pitching! HOWEVER, it is only the second game of the season, and no matter how frustrating it is wo watch us get shut down, at least it’s by Burnett and not WOW AROD!!!!! Not Casey Fossum. like always, it’s a marathon, not a sprint, and pitching, defense and timely hitting in October wins world championships. Go YANKS!!!!
And A-Rod again knocks the opposing pitcher out of the game oh and the ball too..
wonder if the team can feed off of it now
That ball was crushed. Deepest part of the park on a cold night. Wow. Burnett is out, hopefully we can get to the middle relief!
As Rebecca says, you play 27 outs, and we still have 9 left!
How is the “pressure of NY” getting to Hawkins? He pitched very well. He did nothing but throw strikes. He got beat on a great AB by Rios.
That’s baseball kiddies. It happens to everybody.
Here’s a newsflash for some that may not be aware of this…..
The Yankees will lose at least 65 to 75 more games this year. How are some of you going to handle it?
Burnett has pitched great, its 40 degrees, and unfortunately they may not win tonight.
Except in the minds of trolls, idiots or Steve Phillips (who happens to be both) no one can predict the season after two games.
Its why Pete should have had registration on this blog. This way you can keep track of the trolls and alarmists when they show up.
All they do now is change their names after every win or loss.
Its what drags this blog down at times.
Fortunately the cold weather is not bothering Alex. Thank goodness he came back!
Burnett went 6 IP/ 2 ER
Mussina went 5.2 IP/3 ER
That homerun just cost about $45,000. LOL Then again, so would a strikeout.
Trisha
You’ve given me some GREAT laughs tonight. Great stuff. You’ve got some fire in your belly.
Big blast there from A-Rod…..wow.
I was looking for your post sj44.
I think this blog is going to be like the season
Good and bad games but I’m looking for quite a few more good ones than bad.
It’s too early to give up.
YEAH BABY!!
AROD HITTING HR’S WHEN THEY DON’T MATTER AND THE GAME IS OUT OF REACH!!
YEAH BABY!!
Meaningless homer for A-Rod!!!!
Okay, I’m gonna give it to you straight. Some will agree, some will not, but this is what I know.
Moose did not pitch badly. Moose will have better games. I faith that LaTroy Hawkins is going to work out for us.
If I am willing to sell anyone down the river based on one game I don’t deserve to call myself a fan of the greatest team in the history of organized sports.
Now that’s my story and I’m sticking to it!
I have to go but, Alex’s stroke looks like it’s in MVP form again.
I remember when Ken Griffey Jr was “The Kid” and you would just marvel at how sweet his swing was. A-Rod, when he gets into one, brings that same sensation to mind. That was a shot, 435 foot blast I’d say
This team hit good pitching all last year.
Geez, they pounded the Red Sox starters all season and they won the World Series.
They were 6-0 against Cleveland during the regular season.
Anybody can take a handful of games and talk about “lack of offense”.
If there is one thing I am not worried about this year its the offense. They will score plenty of runs.
Every team gets shutdown from time to time. Its why getting crazy over 2 or even 30 games is dumb.
Its a 162 games. Keep that in mind before you go off half cocked and write dumb stuff.
Not too good G.
Did you guys see Wilson on the bench? Looks like he wished he still had his blubber.
Three runs is out of reach?
Right.
pitch #3 looked low
Hey Bob’s using all caps! That’s what happens when little kids like Bob get all worked up. He realizes he’s been outed by Alex and so figures if he screams something it’ll make it appear credible. Getting nervous there Bob?
I thought so.
God, if they can’t hit Tallet…
BOB
how empty is your life? no friends, obviously no girlfriend and you spend your night in a yankees forum because your Red Sux beat the Oakland A’s a few hours earlier. i guess we are kind of like your therapy session. without being able to come here and deal wiht your inferiority complex of the Yankees you’d probably be in a cage or jumping off a ledge somewhere
Toronto has a very good bullpen.
Pitch 3 to Robbie was low and outside.
PLEASE
just ignore the trolls
or we’ll be dealing with this all season
just ignore them
Two runs for each of the remaining two innings – Yankees win at 6-5…
Steph,
I thought so too.
the ump has been alright tonight but definitely a few questionable calls.
compared to how bad umps were last season, I’ll take it.
BOB would you like a hug ? I’m sure we can take time off for you us Yankee fans care
Pete is going to have to do something about the game threads.
Its just become a wasteland for trolls and losers.
It does more harm to the blog than good.
Its why most of the good posters won’t even bother posting in them if this keeps up.
It becomes a waste of time.
Mel,
Your comparison of Burnett’s and Moose’s stats is interesting in terms of the earned runs, but as I said a few weeks ago I really think Giambi on first is a liability for you guys. That one run could be the difference in this game. You said a few weeks ago that the offense will make up for Giambi’s weak fielding but I am not convinced.
Geez..there are some crazy trolls on here tonight.
Yessss!!!! Farnsy!
Dave…..I can see him not holding a lot of leads and having an ERA in the high 4s or low 5s and simply not performing when it counts. He folded under the pressure of being the closer for the flippin’ CUBS ! I simply think that, after Girardi places his trust in him enough times and is sorely disappointed at the results, that his welcome in NY will be a short one. Again, I hope that I am wrong, but I don’t see him as a smart signing NOR do I see him as someone anyone is going to be happy with.
before you rip Farns
that was an excellent hit by Wells
Krazy Kyle new glasses?
Good job, A-Rod
A tip of the cap to Burnett, who’s not a bad pitcher at all (just one who gets injured often…
pitch 1 to Thomas was close – probably a strike
What trolls? I cannot seem to notice one… Go Yanks!!!
Now now we should show Bob some compassion. It is obvious that he is still tired from stowing away in the hub of the airplane wheel. Otherwise he definitely would have been here last night giving us the wisdom of his very sage comments during the Yankee win. Right Bob?
I assume most people are watching on YES! Kyle was mad because Torre never used him on back-to-back games?? HIS BACK WAS STIFF EVERYTIME!! How could Torre pitch him if he says he’s hurt! (and he sucks on day one lol)
and aren’t the trolls fun ? It is truly funny that people have such empty lives as to find this type of entertainment to their liking….
At least Farnsworth made sure Giambi was on the base that time.
DP.
“Pitch 3 to Robbie was low and outside.”
Sure, it’s the umpire’s fault…lol!
And what a clutch HR from Arod…lol!
So, where is this “great” yankee offense?
Yay for DPs!
4 DPs tonight. Nice.
Farnsy is going to work out well this season. Mark my words.
Don Vito,
I think he’ll have an ERA around 3.8 – 4.2. We’ll see though.
Ouch.
Ditto what SJ said.
I’m expecting I know you are but what am I to be posted here any second now.
God, what a sad day. Mariah Carey just passed Elvis for most number 1 hits.
I hate to say it, but Johan Santana makes that play.
the phillies just got 1 hit by the Nationals – at home…how does that happen???
I believe you and Krazy Kyle is about to give you a K…
Farnsworth looks like he’s getting a little downward movement on the fastball (when he’s hitting 91-92). If he can mix that in with the 95-96 heater (and the slider) it will be helpful.
Nice call Paolo!!!!!
Ok I’m not bad at Kyle for what he said about Torre anymore lol
speak of the devil
thats it Kyle
Farnsworth is on this team instead of Patterson.SMH
This is the same team that can’t get out of the first round of the playoffs, and can’t hit good pitching.
So whose fault was it tonight…?
The umps?
The weather?
Were there any bugs intimidating the Yankees?
Looks like another fun season ahead. And the Yankees are now out of first place for good like last year.
Well, that worked out, Farnsy, but I’ve been backing you up here. Don’t make me look bad!!
Things are lining up pretty well for A-Rod fireworks in the bottom of 9th inning!!!
oh that Krazy Kyle
wake up bats and get some runs
the fastball actually broke down
Farnsworth got the strikeout that he needed. It’s now the bottom of the 8th, and with THIS lineup, three runs isn’t much to ask at all. The heart of the order will still get one more AB apiece tonight. You can’t declare a game over in the 7th or 8th inning.
whatz up w/ all the empty seats?
chilly or not, thats some very expensive real estate!
It was your call, trisha. I just double up the bet…
Did someone spelled goerge again???
Boston Dave,,,,I hope you are right and I am wrong…
ray,
I’m woefully aware of the flaws of this Yankee team (thanks to your cockroach friends that scurry in here). But I don’t think I ever once said that the offense would make up for any pitching or fielding deficiencies. I’m superstitious remember?
Now let’s get the two runs… GO YANKS!!!
Bob, was it bad in the wheel? Were you very sore? Are you relatives going to try coming the same way or will they try swimming the Rio Grande? Just curious.
Wow…lots of empty seats. Lots of folks seeking out some anti-freeze, no doubt.
The Yanks need to get 3 runs, not 2. Well, techincally they need 4 if they want to win.
WOW, WHAT A BOTTOM OF THE 8TH INNING!
CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT COMEBACK?
LOL! This team gives up…get used to it, people.
OK…how about a Grand Slam in the bottom of the 9th to win it all ???
Don Vito,
either way I think it was a good risk for Cashman. I’d rather have one too many bullpen arms than not enough. Hawkins throws strikes so he won’t kill you with walks. If he doesn’t work out, not much is lost, and we call up the hot hand in AAA.
Bob, you didn’t answer the questions. Now please tell us. I have no problem with illegal immigrants and I am willing to excuse your obvious lack of intelligence because of that.
I do think you breathed in too many fumes from the airplane jets though. That must have been wicked!
Yeah, and if Hawkins pitches well, he might get us a draft pick at the end of the year.
Don Vito,
Maybe an RBI triple bomb by A-rod and a single bomb by Giambino…
So…Farnsy in the 8th when we’re losing, Joba when we’re winning?
Sound about right?
Ouch. 95 MPH fastball in cold weather…he’ll feel that for a while.
how bout another DP?
Bob,
It would be a strategic retreat if it turns out that way. No team wins every game…
I have to admit I’m more of a lurker here than a poster. I love the info I get on this site and the insight from all fellow Yankee fans.
I also love to see the Boston trolls that come on here. Do these kids have a life somewhere besides the one they have living in their mothers basement ? Are they middle aged men venting their impotence on us because they’re such losers? Take your pick, but losers are losers, and should be ignored.
Well, maybe not completely. Keep up the good work Trisha. I think you castrated a few in a very classy way
List of washed up players
————————
1. damon
2. giambi
3. matsui
4. mussina
Wow, Tim Redding did blank the Phillies for 7 innings o.o
Though, the guy did have a 3.64 era (116 era+) last year (over 84 innings), despite a WHIP of 1.452
Hmm, Perez shut out the Marlins for 6 innings; I imagine that a 13-0 win for the Mets over Marlins would numb the sting of losing Pedro for another day.
I should look into grabbing Bannister eventually…if he keeps this up, along with his solid year last year (121 era+), I’ll be lacking reasons to ignore him.
Pete? Can you implement registration? Please? We’ve been overrun by middle-schoolers from Boston. Come on, kiddies, it’s time for bed!
Bob
I’ll have a Mojito, please.
i forgot..
5. jeter – going to lead the league in double plays
Alright, one K!!!
There’s a sizeable amount of posters that are excellent candidates to regularly attend Naysayer Anonymous meetings.
Okay, who’s up for some ninth inning magic?
I know I am.
at least our BP is lookin good…
BP looks good, 5 DPs.. not bad
DP!
Wow Marc thanks! Seriously I’ve always considered it a sad statement that so many of “them” do feel the need to hang out on Yankee venues. I will say the secure Sux fans (all three of them) wouldn’t be caught dead on a Yankee forum. Give them credit for having enough self respect that they don’t need to hang out on Yankee sites in order to get some perverse sense of validation!
Great job!!! Now it is the come-back inning!!!
A-Rod will blast another HR, so claims a guy who posts under the name of Blargh
This game is making my prolapse hurt.
Rebecca, magic in the 9th or not, this is still the team that is going to win #27 this year, so I just take each game as it comes, finding the positive and knowing everything else will work its way out.
ray,
I’m woefully aware of our team’s flaws thanks to you and your cockroach friends that are scurrying about. But I never said that our offense would pick up our defense and pitching. I’m too superstitious.
And ray, please don’t talk to me about 1B. At least we feel comfortable with Giambi taking 1B in NL parks. And does save some errors on occasion.
Good hustle by Jeet
Any LOOGY who can fog a mirror is going to hurt the Yanks. This is going to be a problem all year.
Sorry, Blargh,
No offense but I already had mine prediction some 15 posts back… “RBI triple bomb by A-rod and a single bomb by Giambino…”
Oh man. You know A-Rod is loving this.
Here we go.
Abreu got the bloop…A-Rod: care to do the honours of the blast?
GRAND SLAM TIME !!!
time for an A-BOMB
he doesnt need a HR… take the walk
accardo will throw it low and out of the zone
We’ve had a few Sux fans in the past who’ve been fun and not at all immature. Intelligent conversationalists. But these guys tonight….jeeesh.
Hey…I ordered a Mojito!
or not
lets go ARod
It’s hard to get a grand slam with only 2 runners on, lol.
Well, Abreu and Jeter are on base; let’s see which prediction comes true
I AM NERVOUS!!
You know I think this the first time all game we’ve had two men on.
Grand Slam with guys on 1st and 2nd. How bout a touchdown with the two point conversion
A home run would be ideal, but I would be happy with a double.
Boston Dave,,,,I can’t say that I agree with you, but I do see your point. I’ll predict that the Hot Hand from AAA comes up and does the job,,,and I’ll tip my cap to you if I am wrong……and HERE COMES THE COMEBACK !!!
Rebecca – You’re right. We hadn’t even had anyone on 2nd all game.
just get on base (safely) ARod!
( I was sayin that this inning, we get a Grand Slam )
Blargh, I don’t mind to share the credit…
Jesus, Alex. On a fastball?
AROD IS WORTH EVERY PENNY, ow that yelling made my ass hurt…
This is the one…
Dang it!!!! Boooooo!!!! BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding. We still love you.
ummfada, I’m not nervous in these situations because no matter what happens we’ll be there in the end. You gotta just go with the flow knowing some of these we’ll take and some we won’t. But the majority we will!
From the department of over-reaction: The Yankees are in a MUST-WIN situation!
Man….they’ve got some talent in that bullpen.
load em up for Cano
holy smokes….I can’t believe he blew a fastball by him….that is OK…still plenty of bullets left in the gun, y’all !!!
One out…eek.
Ok Giambi and Robbie get to be the heroes tonight.
not as nervous
HAHAHAHA
AROD HITS THE MEANINGLESS HR THEN CHOKES WHEN HE’S THE TYING RUN!! TYPICAL AROD
Well, there was a typo… I meant RBI triple bomb by Giambino and single bomb by Robbi…
oh man…
so close
lets go Robbie
Argh!! Robbie…pleeeeease!
so close
It would look nice but why is everybody trying to hit the 3 run home run.Keep down your ego and get the double.
Gitmo -
Trisha
Thanks for the laughs tonight.
Gah, Alex, why when I predict something?…
Aw man.
Oh well. Can’t win em all. Gotta get some work done. Atcha all later.
we’ll get ‘em next time
Of course Cano swings at the first pitch.
Can I have a long island ice tea besides the mojito?
GAAAH, this Girardi is a clown. He’s got to go. WHERE ARE YOU GEORGE?
c ya next time, ALL !
I guess we’ll have to settle for 161-1.
Tough break.
CANO CANNOT HIT THAT HIGH IN THE ORDER
CANO SWINGS AT THE FIRST PITCH AND HIS SLOWER THAN SLOW BAT HITS A POP TO LEFT AND THE YANKEES LOSE!
CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE
Good party… thanks people… night…
No thanks needed Trisha. I live in the heart of the so called “RSN” and I know what it’s like. Btw, my girlfriend I live with is a die hard sox fan too. 7 years now and I have to say October is realy cold here, lol.
And a
This Bob character above me, should work for ESPN
John, thanks for laughing!
Tip my cap to the Jays pitching. Tomorrow is a new day.
Bob, I hope you found some rags to put in your cardboard box. It’s gonna be a cold one!
ONWARD AND UPWARD.
Hey BOB, go suck a tailpipe.
Well we can’t win em all. Let’s just get the rubber game tomorrow and all will be fine. If Moose pitches that average all the year, he will eat many innings and more times than not the offense will score more than 4 runs. Remember last year when no Yankee pitcher was getting out of the 4th in April?
So keep your heads up Yankee fans, the sun will come out tomorrow.
Wow that pitcher was throwing absolute batting practice. 4 piches right down the middle and Arod and Giambi both missed their pitches. Cano should not be batting 6th until he learns the strike zone. Swings at the 1st pitch and there was no way he was going to hit that pitch.
Hmm, left brackets do a good job of killing my posts…
Good job by the Toronto pitching staff
Paolo
Long Islands are allowed, and encouraged.
Good night all.
FIRST PLACE IS GONE NEVER TO RETURN! ENJOY FIGHTING FOR THE WILD CARD
sign bonds and trade matsui.
BOB -
If you pay any attention to people who know baseball you would hear that Cano has a great quick bat. They talk about him winning the batting title and he is coming off hitting 420+ for the spring.
Please have a clue before posting.
…And then there was the meaningless homer that Alex hit off the bloated hayseed Papelsmear to win the game for the Yankees…Hmmmm.
On second thought, I’ll stay with Arod.
Night all!
Robbie Robbie Robbie. Patience at the plate, it’s what we practice as Yankees. not that i’m actually on the Yankees or even practice patience at the plate, but you get it.
Oh well. Yankees made it interesting late at least. The Franchise tomorrow night.
“FIRST PLACE IS GONE NEVER TO RETURN! ENJOY FIGHTING FOR THE WILD CARD”
and your BlueJays still won’t make the playoffs
Sorry, but Cano just isn’t suited to hit 6th. He doesn’t have the necessary plate discipline to bat that high in the lineup. The first huge mistake by Girardi.
The Nationals are 3-0?
Hat’s off to the Toronto pitching.
I’m studying to be a pitching coach. Would it be crazy for me to have Kyle come out for the 8th, knowing he might not be able to go back 2 back? Or was it ok because we’re carrying an extra bullpen arm?
Heading out. Thanks for the company.
giambi can’t afford to suck it up this year. I’m guessing he will take HGH sometime soon.
“FIRST PLACE IS GONE NEVER TO RETURN! ENJOY FIGHTING FOR THE WILD CARD”
What? Good god.
“If you pay any attention to people who know baseball you would hear that Cano has a great quick bat. They talk about him winning the batting title and he is coming off hitting 420+ for the spring.”
CHECK THE STATS FOR CANO HITTING WITH NOBODY ON BASE VS RUNNERS IN SCORING POSIITON. CANO HAS NEVER BEEN A GOOD CLUTCH HITTER.
I DO HOPE YOU ENJOYED HIS GREAT AB TO END THE GAME! NIGHTY NIGHT!
I feel that that game should have been a 2-2 tie in the 9th anyway. Twice in that game Yankees struck out Rios to end the inning and both times the umpire just ignored it and kept it going, which resulted in a total of 3 runs. Moose threw him 2 straight pitches that were in a spot that for Burnette was a strike all damn night, both balls for Moose. next Wells hits one out for 2. Then Hawkins got him too on pretty much the same pitch, again it was a strike for Burnette but not for Hawkins,next pitch he singles one in.
when all else fails, blame the umpire. i don’t subscribe to the idea that sometimes the other team just plays better than the yankees…than the yankees? shyeah right.
Leave BOB alone! You guys try living a life where absurd comments on blogs are your only form of human contact because you’re all alone in this world and nobody in their right mind would bother talking to you because you can’t show a shred of human intelligence. It’s rough!!
You’re welcome BOB.
“Sorry, but Cano just isn’t suited to hit 6th. He doesn’t have the necessary plate discipline to bat that high in the lineup. The first huge mistake by Girardi.”
and that’s after using 2 games as a sample com’on bro
I don’t know why mental patients like bob are allowed internet access. Maybe with the progress of modern medicine the BOBs of the world will be able to capitalize sentences, and years later, comment intelligently on baseball
CHECK THE STATS FOR CANO HITTING WITH NOBODY ON BASE VS RUNNERS IN SCORING POSIITON. CANO HAS NEVER BEEN A GOOD CLUTCH HITTER.
I DO HOPE YOU ENJOYED HIS GREAT AB TO END THE GAME! NIGHTY NIGHT!
you pure man, when did your doctors tell you that you couldn’t read
now I understand the use of the capslock
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/players/player/splits/2007/532997
Mike R.-
You’re name is kind of like “my car”
Here’s to hoping it’s a blip in the radar, and we aren’t off to another crappy start. I’m really not into hoping for a summer long comeback again this year. It wasn’t that fun last year.
Was Burnett really that good or did we just make him look that good?
Well man I think it’s still way, way too soon to decide whether or not we’re off to a crappy start…
And Burnette is a very very good pitcher. He would be a highly renowned pitcher if it weren’t for his injury problems. He has sick stuff. They were saying on YES tonight that he has an opt out clause for this year and if he has a good year he will more than likely take it, which is dead on because the dude can get a really good deal with someone. incentive laden, but a good deal anyway. He’s always given the Yankees a hard time.
Brian – I had never thought of that, but you’re right. Cool. I was confused for a second. I was like “He drives a Mike?”. It’s been a long day.
Joe G looked like he was going to cry in the post game. Some good emotion.
I would like to remind those who proudly label themselves as “OPTIMISTS!!” that reality always prevails over blindsided optimism or pessimism.
Mussina is an issue in the rotation and the only reason he is still on the team is because of his salary and his career numbers. hopefully changes will be made once Mussina’s ERA is over 6.00 in mid-May.
and for those who take comfort in that babble about the ERA for a fifth starter being around 6.00 on average: Mussina is not our 5th starter. Kennedy is, and he is a rookie who has pitched less than 20 innings in the bigs. there are no guarantees whatsoever with him. what are the average stats for a 4th starter? whatever they are, Mussina’s laughable stuff can guarantee that he will propel past that.
this year is already somewhat reminiscent of last year… A-Rod providing about 90% of the team’s offense in the early going, while the only days that we can feel reliable are when Wang or Pettitte is on the mound. and before you reply back with “BUT WE’RE ONLY 2 GAMES INTO THE SEASON”, I understand that and will simply repeat my sentiments in a few months when the same circumstances are evident.
“CHECK THE STATS FOR CANO HITTING WITH NOBODY ON BASE VS RUNNERS IN SCORING POSIITON. CANO HAS NEVER BEEN A GOOD CLUTCH HITTER.
I DO HOPE YOU ENJOYED HIS GREAT AB TO END THE GAME! NIGHTY NIGHT!”
you pure man now I understand why you write in capital letters when did the doctors tell you that you couldn’t read
Positives:
-this type of outing from Moose will, over the course of the year, keep us in good shape
-Alex begins hot (I know, the 81 HR/243 RBI pace won’t satisfy everyone…)
-near-flawless relief over 2 games (except Hawkins today)
Negatives
-not exactly on a 1,000 run pace yet…
+/-
I missed Giambi’s error, but his stretch to save an error from the captain was awesome
Mike Mineo, relax.. Moose pitched decent toay…
He did, look at the game.. The Yanks played bad and therefore lost; Bad plays; giambi error, abreu sb out at 2nd(he was safe), the Jeter getting thrown out at 2nd, the multiple 2 out hits by the Jays, and overall sloppy game.
they were not going to go undefeated so I can deal with it.
again Moose is there 4th or 5th starter and they will be fine, this team is better to start the yr. then last years team. better backup catcher, better bench, more youth, better health, deeper pen. Yes they have question marks for the strting staff but hughes has high upside and kennedy can pitch.
they have joba for the yr., etc, this team is a playoff team.
“before you reply back with “BUT WE’RE ONLY 2 GAMES INTO THE SEASONâ€, I understand that and will simply repeat my sentiments in a few months when the same circumstances are evident.”
I tend to agree. This team looks scarily similar to the one early last season that played with little to no energy, had suspect pitching and no clutch hitting.
Arod swinging through so-so fastballs again in clutch spots? Uh-oh…
positives: I’ll get a lot more work done not having to read all about this game tomorrow…and at least there is another game tomorrow, wash the taste of this one right out.
Two games into the season. TWO. They won one. They lost one. The sky is not falling. Holy moly. No wonder SJ and hmmm and murphy aren’t posting on this thread. The blog tonight was, by and large, beyond pathetic.
I have to lock myself in a room and watch the Yankees alone… watching the game with other people goes like this:
*Moose gives up a 2-run HR*
“AW MAN WE SUCK! MAN, MOOSE SUCKS! WE’RE NOT GONNA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! OH GEEZ, GET HIM OUT OF THERE! THE YANKEES SUCK! MAN!”
Wish my gameday had been working; I wouldn’t have had to deal with all that negativity.
Just got home from the game. It was FREEZING! Stadium was less than 1/3 full by Kate Smith time. I thought Moose looked pretty good, especially given the weather. Unfortunately offense didn’t back him up. Go Phil tomorrow!
cecil atleast we’re not Steve Philips watching the game
*Moose gives up a HR*
“I TOLD YOU SO, I TOLD YOU SO ! DAMMIT WHY WON’T PEOPLE BELIEVE ME ! THEY WON’T MAKE IT ! SEE MOOSE GIVES UP 4 RUNS , 4 RUNS WON’T GET YOU INTO THE PLAYOFFS !”
TWO GAMES INTO THE SEASON
Stop explaining.
Gosh…
Steve Phillips’ white hair and goatee make me see red.
this is sad
Pete needs two blogs. one for people who have a clue and one for the imbeciles that whine and cry after the 2nd game of the season when the yanks are 1-1.
go watch the WWE you turds
pitiful
“Steve Phillips’ white hair and goatee make me see red.”
he’s an early candidate for Just For Men
OYyyyyyyyy. I hate baseball! And we have Phil “The four-and-a-third-innings starter” Hughes going tomorrow.
mike mineo I proudly label myself someone who is well rounded enough to look at the big picture and not knee jerk or obssess over one game. I proudly label myself someone who has always had enough of a pulse on this team – maybe because I have sprung for satellite television and YES and Extra Innings and watch every pre and post game show and have for a long time now that I both watch and listen carefully and put a lot more stock in both what I see and the comments of the experts in the Yankees organization than I do in grim reaper fans who make continuing proclamations that are the opposite of what my eyes tell me and what the team experts are saying.
I was fine with Moose’s outing. I saw the pitches he was able to throw for strikes. I also saw several where he didn’t get the call and should have. David Cone said Moose really mixed his pitches well and was able to throw his changeup at about 62 when his fastball was in the 80s, and there were only a few pitches that really did him in. Joe Girardi said he was pleased with what he saw from Moose and most important of all – Moose was satisfied with his outing and was able to identify the two or three pitches that did him in, identifying them as mistakes he made and shouldn’t have made. If you know ANYTHING about Mussina, he is his own most severe critic and his psyche has a lot to do with his pitching confidence.
I expect to see good things from Mussina this season.
I’ll go back to a comment a made earlier and that is that the Yankees were 9.5 games out several seasons ago, and I didn’t break a sweat then because I knew the kind of team the Yankees were, despite their bad stretch. And sure as the sun will come up tomorrow, they ended up taking the division. Never fool yourself into believing that my optimism is blind optimism when it comes to the Yankees. I’m just not prone to fits of depression or frustration when a game doesn’t go my way. Once again, I know the team and therefore I am going to enjoy the hell out of this season since I know they’ll be in the playoffs this season too. If looking at the glass half full floats your boat, go for it. I don’t need to go there. And that’s not blind optimism, THAT’S reality. It was reality when the Yankees were 9.5 games out of first and it is reality on a night when Mussina pitched well but not just not well enough to win.
BFD.
“Moose was satisfied with his outing and was able to identify the two or three pitches that did him in, identifying them as mistakes he made and shouldn’t have made.”
That’s a trademark of post-game Mussina. He always just makes a “few bad pitches” that do him in. Doesn’t matter if he gives up 10 runs, it’s still just a “few bad pitches”.
With his below average fastball, Moose will need Greg Maddux-like pinpoint control, which just won’t happen all that often.
Other problem areas…
–Giambi looks awful offensively and defensively
–Matsui is old and washed up
–Cano isn’t good enough to hit so high up in the order
You can’t go Moose and Kennedy back to back esp. if they face the same team back to back. They are too similiar in style. You’ll have to split them with Hughes.
greg- no that is NOT a trademark of post-game Mussina. Post-game Mussina is the one who always feels there is something wrong with his outing and is never happy with the way he pitched. Hurrah that he feels the way he does. That bodes well for what frame of mind he’ll be in for his next.
Giambi is washed up defensively? Did you see the scoops and picks he made tonight? Washed up offensively after two games? He came into camp about 25 pounds lighter. As I remember Giambi usually takes a while to get going.
I’ll just leave the rest by saying I respect your right to your beliefs but I definitely disagree with what you’ve said.
trisha, I respect and admire your mentality, but I cannot simply gauge success by what the players say on the postgame show. of course Mussina is going to say that he was pleased enough and that he knows what to work on. if he started snapping at reporters and told them that there was nothing to improve upon, his chances of staying in the rotation (and getting a decent paycheck next year) decrease drastically. and Girardi is too smart to show panic to the press in the second game. that would cause the players to press EVEN MORE at the plate and on the mound.
also, please remember that YES is a YANKEES NETWORK. their “analysts” are paid to side with and comfort Yankee fans in the team’s weaknesses. I know many people here label ESPN as a biased source, but their adequate neutrality is often more respectable if you are looking for a realistic analysis.
I really like Chet Stedman, so this isnt really an insult… haha.
Mike gave the Yankees 5.2 innings and gave up 4 runs. It’s just that the Yankees were facing AJ Burnett, and he was on. When he’s on and healthy, he’s got some of the sickest stuff in the majors, that’s why I got him on my fantasy team.
Yankees almost put together a rally in the 9th. A-Rod looked damn good in the field, and at the plate he looks like he’s picking up where he left off from last year. Ohlendorf, after hitting the guy on the hand with his first pitch, made a good seasonal debut, hopefully one of many in a breakout year.
Don’t you guys remember last year at this time? 5.2 innings would be a BLESSING. Personally, last year’s start has made me ready for any kind of start to the year. So far, it’s not looking like they’ll repeat their April doldrums.
mike, I don’t think I explained that well. Mussina typically does snap at reporters. He is self depracating, not the opposite. That’s why when Mussina said he is pretty happy with an outing, that’s something to celebrate since he is seldom happy with the way he pitches unless his outing is perfect.
While I understand your thinking about YES, believe me it sure doesn’t operate that way. David Justice was REALLY critical when he was a commentator, and the former players actually are pretty straight forward in their commentary, even if they aren’t saying it in a strident tone. When Michael Kay was their television commentator I hated watching him because he was totally hypercritical and a total drama queen. With him you’d always feel the sky was about to fall in. Seriously, none of them sugar coat things because I think they have too much respect for the fans and the game to do that. And that is the reason I feel I am always getting an accurate pulse on things. Now I am used to Torre’s commentary, and if he was not pleased with someone’s outing, he’d say so and mention what he feel the pitcher had to work on. I heard him say things like “He just wasn’t good” and “Gator and I are going to have to talk to him and try to get this figured out.”
With Girardi I don’t know since it’s too soon to tell. But I am already getting the impression that David Cone is going to call them as he sees them. I really do believe the balance is there. Also, if someone has a crappy outing, and the commentary is that it was great, they soon won’t have an audience.
Andrew,
Awesome points man, people need to read that last paragraph, you can never compare the bad luck of last april to anything, we got a full squad when andy comes back, and theyre gonna be in fine form, as Johnny Damon said, its great playing multiple games in a row, its all you have to think about so its easy to focus..
He doesnt speak well in public and it shows, but that Johnny ALWAYS has something great to say.
trisha, good points taken. I still view Mussina’s future as going nowhere but down, but I understand your view and it is certainly understandable. regardless, considering that we are both diehard Yankees fans, we can both hope for the best and see what happens. we can agree on that much
I feel I’m disappointed by Mussina more often than any other pitcher the Yanks ever had. There have been many that were far worse, but I think that’s why he seems to leave me disappointed.
Plain and simple. Mussina pitched well enough to win many games. What beat him was lack of run support and Burnett having his way with the strike zone.
The bullpen held their own.