Game 2: Blue Jays at Yankees
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- April
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Cabrera CF
Mussina RHP
BLUE JAYS
Eckstein SS
Stewart LF
Rios RF
Wells CF
Thomas DH
Overbay 1B
Hill 2B
Scutaro 3B
Barajas C
Burnett RHP
UPDATE, 6:09 p.m.: Posada has been scratched with a stiff right shoulder. He tweaked it making a throw yesterday and with the cold weather today he had trouble getting loose. Matsui will move up in the order and Molina will hit eighth.
Joe Girardi said the injury was minor and that Posada was day-to-day.
UPDATE, 6:18 p.m.: If you were thinking about stealing anything from Yankee Stadium this season, read this press release:
YANKEES ARREST TWO FANS FOR ATTEMPTED LARCENY
AND CRIMINAL MISCHIEF AT OPENING DAY GAME
The New York Yankees announced today that two fans were arrested during Tuesday’s Opening Day game vs. the Toronto Blue Jays at Yankee Stadium for attempting to steal Stadium bunting and causing damage to the bunting and façade.
Both fans were charged with attempted larceny and criminal mischief. Each charge is punishable by up to one year imprisonment and/or fines. They were detained and booked by the New York City Police Department and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The Yankees have also revoked their season ticket accounts.
“The Yankees look forward to making this final season at Yankee Stadium a magical event for every fan,” said Yankees Chief Operating Officer Lonn Trost. “This type of destructive behavior will not be tolerated from the first game of the season through the last.”
UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.: It’s 44 degrees at gametime here in the Bronx and the Yankees are already down 1-0 thanks to an error at first base by Jason Giambi that put David Eckstein on. Ironically, Joe Girardi said before the game how much faith he had in the Big G to play in the field.
The Moose has a white board at his locker (like he had in spring training) and he wrote “Welcome to Lambeau Field” on it before the game.
UPDATE, 7:35 p.m.: By Yankee Stadium standards there is a sparse crowd on hand tonight. There are several sections of seats completely empty in the loge and scattered pockets of empty seats elsewhere.
But new team senior vice president Jennifer Steinbrenner Swindal is on hand, braving the cold from the owner’s box.
It’s not a pleasant night whatsoever, especially when the wind blows.
UPDATE, 7:43 p.m.: Harlan Chamberlain, Joba’s dad, was on the field before the game on his scooter. He went over to introduce himself to Frank Thomas to tell him that Joba had his poster in his bedroom back in Nebraska.
UPDATE, 8:16 p.m.: Here’s Joe Girardi’s pregame interview session. He talked about Giambi, Joba, Mussina, Hughes and other things:
UPDATE, 8:38 p.m.: The Big G flashed some leather there. … Meanwhile, the Moose has allowed two earned runs over five innings. If he does that on most nights, he’s going to be just fine.
UPDATE, 8:42 p.m.: The lever on the countdown clock will be pulled tonight by three of the Super Bowl champion Giants—Steve Smith, Ahmad Bradshaw and Aaron Ross.
UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: Mussina threw too good a fastball on 0-2 to Hill and he punched in into right right field with two outs. The RBI single gave Toronto a 4-0 lead and Moose is done for the night.
That takes away from what was otherwise a decent outing. LaTroy Hawkins now making his Yankees debut.
UPDATE, 9:10 p.m.: The line on Mussina: 5.2 8 4 3 2 2. He threw 91 pitchesm, 62 strikes. He was an out away from a quality start. He was’t great, he wasn’t terrible. Of the eight hits, only half of them were line drives. The rest were bloopers.
At some point, they need to re-set the rotation so it’s Wang, Pettitte, Hughes, Mussina and Kennedy. But regardless, Mussina has to give them innings.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: That last run Moose gave up and the error by Giambi really hurts now as A-Rod just belted a two-run homer. It’s 5-2 with no outs in the seventh.
Here’s the updated career home run list:
13. Mickey Mantle 536
14. Jimmie Foxx 534
15. Ted Williams and Wilie McCovey 521
17. Rodriguez 519
UPDATE, 9:59 p.m.: Nice job by Brian Tallet, six up and six down with four K’s. Toronto has really pitched a heck of a game.
UPDATE, 10:13 p.m.: It seems like yesterday the Yankees played in 2:31. Now it’s 10:13 and we still have three outs to go. I also can’t feel my fingers because they’re numb.
UPDATE, 10:14 p.m.: Tying run at the plate in the form of A-Rod.
UPDATE, 10:18 p.m.: He struck out on a 2-2 fastball.
UPDATE, 10:19 p.m.: The Big G gave it a ride to center. But it didn’t fly far on this night. Two outs. … Cano pops out and that’s it. 161-1 it is.
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Joba will replace Mussina in the rotation by mid June.
Love getting the lineup at 4 pm…love it.
Coach Gordon Bombay will replace Thompson as bench coach.
HA!!! nice rb15
Any idea if this is on Uno or the Deuce tonight? No YES up here in RedNeck Maine….
Let me guess:
ESPN lineup:
7-11 womes basketball
11-12 Basket weaving
ESPN Deuce lineup:
6-8 Why the Red Sox should be considered a dynasty, hosted by Peter “I need new dentures” Gammons and Steve “I need more base makeup on my hands please” Phillips
8-8:30 – If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying, hosted by Bill Belichick
8:30-11 Recapping the 2004 ALCS (from games 4 thru 7)
11-12 Red Sox Tonight, hosted by John Donut Kruk, Eric pip squeek Young, and Harold “I didn’t do it” Reynolds
thanks mike – no offense, pete. it was just a great image in my mind.
I love Coach Bombay.
Let’s hope the Yanks light up Burnett
If the Yankees aren’t going to play Duncan for the first few games, why not have him serve his suspension?
Brian
¡Hola! everybody!!
Baseball Been away tooo, tooo long.
(sniffle) So nice to have her back. (sniffle)
It was like an old movie, where the protagonists find each in a crowd (Crocodile Dundee).
And the gang didn’t disappoint, the crew rocked da joint, GOOD!
Here’s the first Slideshow of last nites excitement (75 pix in 2 segments).
► http://tinyurl.com/3ddr25
“The Last Dance”
Looks like it is on the deuce tonight. At least it is posted on Yankees.com.
Hope the bullpen is ready to work tonight, Moose may only go 5-6. Should be fun…(I hope).
thats a very good point brian, but i think he wantas to get his sentence reduced by a game…
actually, newyork.yankees.mlb.com
I stand corrected.
Well, the Yanks sure will have the left side covered with 2 LFers and 2 at short. Girardi must be a genius to get the MLB to agree to this.
Clicked on the “Baseball Players Salaries” link on the right side of Pete’s blog, and surprised to find that ARod is not the highest paid player in the game this year. How interesting.
Here’s Part Two:
► http://urlred.com/6iKct
“The Melky Way Set the Night Aglow”
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I’ll be back in 30 minutes with a blow-out video on Yankee Stadium.
Only problem is we have nobody to cover up the middle…no CF.
I now Girardi’s supposed to be the “new style” and all, but this is some controversial baseball right here.
Maybe with Jeter and Alex’s renewed friendship, they just wanted to hang out together at SS tonight.
Hope the Yanks beat up on Burnett. Have a feeling tonight will be a high scoring game.
Correction.
Arod is the highest paid in 2008.
Giambi was the highest paid in 2007.
Yanks Fan in Queens: that amount was what the Yankees were paying A-Rod. It didn’t take the money from Texas into account.
Btw ortiz looks very bad at the plate…
The first couple of comments on this post CRACKED ME UP!!!!
Very funny Patton and TK.
Dr. A: GREAT TO SEE YOU BACK!
Hmm, it looks like it’ll be a little crowded at short and in left…wonder what kind of shift it is…
Question: Do you think Mussina should be the #2 pitcher, before Hughes or Kennedy? (I know Pettitte ordinarily would be, but should Moose come before the young guys?)
Acula welcome back who are the females in the pics family ?
Should Moose be the normal #2? No. But the Yankees need someone to fill in for Andy and not get Kennedy and Hughes too involved too early with their innings limits. Kennedy will likely be able to get to all of his starts and pitch nearly 200 innings, but with Hughes at about 170 innings, yes, we need someone to be before the kids.
LOL BronxBomber77
Steve: yes he should. The young guys are on an innings limit. They need to be at the back of the rotation. That’s the main reason, I think.
I think come the second inning Girardi should go with 2 firstbasemans. Duncan and Giambi. One gets the ground ball, the other throws to second(when needed). I like how Girardi is mixing it up. Whats next? 2 pitchers, one lefty one righty. Batter doesnt know who has the ball.
Steve: For this year, yes, because we don’t know what we’ll get from Phil and Ian. When we do, then you can change it around.
That’s a 1-1 final between Arsenal and Liverpool (I’m the only one who remotely cares about that, right?) and it’s still nil-nil in the bottom of the 4th in Oakland.
Lol, nah, I kinda like watching the Premiereship, but I prefer women’s soccer. A’s have a runner on first with no out.
Peter, when you write a book with highlights from this blog, some of these hilarious responses to the typos must be included!
Nick: I like Man U =D
I did a double take on that line up when I saw SS by A-Rod’s name lol. 2 SS’s and 2 LF’s and no 3B and no CF should make for an interesting game lol.
Thanks Pete for going through the trouble of getting the line ups for us.
Ah, but this match was only masquerading as a Premiership tilt, it was actually a competition in the Champions League. But the same two teams play this weekend in an actual Premiership match before their Champions League home-and-home engagement concludes next week.
And the Red Sox get out of the inning unscathed.
Moose get symbolic #2 or #3 starter spot based on career accomplishments, respect, and innings limits.
Who starts in the playoffs would be based on different criteria.
Man U: feh.
I follow Chelsea, West Ham, Manchester United, and a few other teams.
From a previous thread Pete – “Jason Giambi’s unwashed pants…”Urgh. Please, have a thought for your English reader(s) for whom the word pants has a more undergarment-related meaning.
Now, good luck with selling THOSE…
Speaking of taking things from the Stadium this press release from the Yankees
Yankees arrest two fans for attempted larceny and criminal mischief at Opening Day game
Im lucky enough to have Extra Innings till the 6th. If you got digital cable, its a promo. Anyways catching this Sox A’s game and WOW. I realized I was getting bored, and then I got sleepy and I wondered why? I realized its because when Lester pitches he takes anywhere bwetween 21-26 sec to deliver an F’n pitch. In comparison Harden takes 11-12 sec. The A’s players should step out to just throw Lester off b/c he does it to them when he takes forever to pitch. I cant believe the umps don’t say anything. Its torture.
“I kinda like watching the Premiership, but I prefer women’s soccer.”
Hehe. And there we Limeys were thinking we had sent you David Beckham and soccer would make it big over there…
Nick in SF, Rebecca – there’s only one decent team in the ‘EPL’, and it’s Arsenal. All the rest are nothing more than the Mets in disguise..
Remember how slow Jamie Moyer was to the plate when he pitched for Seattle? Then again, he still is. Great pitcher, but it seemed like ABs could go on for ages…wait. They did.
Haha, I’m in LA and I’m not a Galaxy fan. How’s that for you? Lol. I do follow the men’s teams, but not as much as the women’s. Well, since I’m a girl and have played soccer for ages, it does make sense that I follow the women’s teams more closely than the men’s. I grew up in a good era for the sport.
Dano—Yeah, but when I was in London Arsenal were horrible.
Manny K’s with 2 on to end the inning. Still 0-0.
Dano, Arsenal is my team for sure (and a team I’ve seen play at Highbury), but I wouldn’t call them the only decent team in the EPL when they’re in 3rd place.
Meanwhile, Formerly Big Papi flares a single for his first hit of the season, 2 on 2 out for Manny who K’s to end the top of the inning!
DET got 3 hit by the Royals… this DET team is eerily similar to the Yanks.. i am sure it will be thru the year.. feast or famine offense spotty bull pen and a fragile rotation.. albeit DET has an ace..
two such teams cant make the playoffs… can they?
I just want to say that i still want Harden on our team. He just blew away Manny with men on 1st and 2nd to end the fifth. Pithing a shutout.
If Harden could manage to stay healthy, he’d be good for any team.
thats great SoS. It will take hughes, cabrera, and kennedy to get him.
Also, im not impressed with Lester. Consistantly wild and is getting lucky with the double play getting him out of trouble. Ian will have a better carreer.
Arsenal—haha… thats funny… they choke on a glass of water.. Arsenal cant stand properity, their run of 4 draws when in the lead.. oh boy..
Arsenal do deserve kudos for one thing, there are very few English blokes in the premiership .. where Steven Gerrard, Frank lampard and Wayne Rooney are supposedly world class !!
Maybe its Arsene Wenger!! too bad u let the Robert Pires dude go.. he used to dive and get 5 penalties a year..
Arsenal… haha !!
YankeesRfirst, I like this Extra Innings stuff, I ordered it today. However I have two tv’s in my living room, one on XBox, one on the Red Sox game.
anti-mussina is right—Beane will fleece you.
Also, Harden doesn’t stay healthy.
dr. a, great pictures! did you take them yourself?
sos, you arent the only one my friend…as I said yesterday, Id give them Alan Horne and Bret Gardner for him in a heart beat. Id even throw in a guy like Bruney/Britton/Edwar to sweeten it…but I highly doubt that pakcage gets Harden…especially from a GM like BB.
thats great SoS. It will take hughes, cabrera, and kennedy to get him.
We’re talking about Harden not Santana. No thanks.
Harden—no, he is a great tease… tell me one Oakland Athletic or Atlanta Brave that has done well since leaving those teams !!
dont touch him, if it takes 2 non-playoff years so be it, lets develop the kids, its far more fun.. and easier to digest Hughes or Kennedy struggling and learning vs a Javy Vazuqez or Kevin Brown
and I would still include Gardner and Horne in any trade for a major leaguer.
Hugh, that’s a rather interesting name. Hope there are no grade school kids here reading this…
“and I would still include Gardner and Horne in any trade for a major leaguer.”
Even a Kyle Lohse? I’d trade them for Blanton. But that wouldn’t get Blanton either. Not from Billy
Strike ‘em out, throw ‘em out for new pitcher in Oakland.
MikeEff,
I considered that, but I figure 3 games now when he is not needed is better than a couple of games two weeks from now when he might be needed due to injury or other factors.
Followed by a 4-pitch walk.
whozat, dont patronize me.
how do I use those smile faces?
PUT SNY RIGHT NOW CANSECO LIVE vs BENINGO, RAISSMAN
steph-
good to see there is another LA yankee fan out here. where do u watch the games ?
Has Ortiz even gotten a hit yet? I only saw the Sox play when they were in Japan and he did look horrible at the plate. Manny, on the other hand, looked good.
Ortiz got his first hit in his last at-bat, a little flare single. Now the Sox have bases loaded, 2 out, with Alan Embree pitching to Dustin Pedroyer.
Embri makes you appreciate Traber that much more.
(and I’m spelling Pedroyer the what whatsisname on NESN says it.)
Inning over, no score!
Sox have stranded 10.
Dang, that’s a lot.
Well, right now I’m getting the free previews and watching on YES, but normally I watch on MLB.tv. I just hate those Saturday blackouts…
Looks like the Cubbies are in danger of dropping to 0-2. They are trailing 6-2 in the bottom of the 8th.
Hugh,
Just hover over the icon and it shows you the keystrokes.
what is canseco wearing – what is that!
Rebecca- lol…you made me go back and read his name a little quicker
Hugh-.....
steph-
good to see there is another LA yankee fan out here. where do u watch the games ?
Is being in So.Cal not specifically in L.A. considered?
Haha, sure. Live in one of the boroughs off of LA or something?
I know two games isn’t a huge universe but I have to say I still say that Detroi’s offense doesn’t compare to the Yankees offense! Either that or KC has some butt kicking pitching! HA HA HA!
Both the Dead Sox and Oakland are jet lagged out. I’m not surprised that neither team, has made anything much happen. That said,
GO OAKLAND!
mel, I dont have any icons, all I have is a space to leave a reply and a button to submit it…am I supposed to be somewhere else?
Embree did a very good job for Oakland last season and has started off the same way this season.
Hugh,
If you saw an icon in whozat’s post, hover over it. It shows the keystrokes.
Hover over these:
LOL. Too much-
http://blogs.trb.com/sports/baseball/yankees/blog/2008/04/morgan_ensberg_in_trouble_with.html
embree is the opposite of handsome
Hover over what icons?
I prefer the mellow stylings of Hugh Jass.
Meanwhile, Oakland goes down quietly again. They are too punchless to strand as many runners as the Sox, thus far.
Gotta go. Good luck to the Moose.
Youk leads off with a double.
sorry, emoticons. Bye.
Doesn’t sound like there are very many A’s fans in attendance.
Papi homers. 2-0 Sox. I guess he finally woke up.
It’s now 2-0, Ortiz took Embree deep.
Dang.
Yeah and it was hit by a .143 hitter. Go figure.
Manny just hit a deep fly to center, and stood around styling in his special way to see the ball caught at the wall, which Manny is stunned by. If the ball is dropped, he’s standing on first like a jackass.
Inning over.
Is it just me or does anyone think this is yet another dumb move by McNamee?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BBO_MCNAMEE_CLEMENS_MEMORABILIA?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Jetes and Arod both playing SS, cool.
Lester is being pulled after Emil Brown, the hero of Japan, leads off the inning with a single.
Ant: I wouldn’t dignify that by bringing it up.
Gotta love that Manny. Instead of standing on first like a jackass, he’s back in the dugout sitting down like a jackass.
I wonder if he went back to the dugout saying he knew it was going to get caught on the warning track.
Sorry, I gave you bad info, it was a 2-out hit.
aaaaaand the A’s fail to score.
Is there a stat the Red Sox keep for the number of times Manny doesn’t run out balls he thinks might be HRs?
I don’t have the formula in front of me, but I think that stat is called the MBMM—the Manny Being Manny Meter. That play rated fairly high, but not as high as those plays when Manny loafs in the field or does something completely unexpected, like throwing the ball into the ground instead of to the relay man.
Meanwhile, the Sox have bases loaded with none out again vs. Lenny DiNardo. Not looking so good for the Green.
Falling asleep with the radio under my pillow, walking into Da House and being overwhelmed by grass that seemed to glow in daylight, getting drunk in the right field bleachers..
Memories.
What ever they do, they can never take that away from us. They’re ous.
We’ll be in a new, high-tech house next year, but no matter, the House-that-Ruth-Built we always be our Home.
Here’s a video of a gorgeous, heroic soul – she will live ForEVHA!!
► http://urlred.com/Umo4v
(Runs 4:56)
I think this is an especially important start for Mike Mussina’s confidence. He and the Yanks would be very happy if he can go 5 solid innings. Mussina pitched his way out of the rotation last year and he needs to cement his spot this year. If Mussina struggles for the first 5 or 6 weeks and losses his spot, he may never see it again.
Ansky, I’m sure there is.
mlb.com Gameday has Molina at catcher.
Thanks Dr Acula. I bookmarked it even
Now it’s 4-0 Sox, still bases loaded with none, out, Papi up.
Molina at catcher today according to YES…why??
Michigan –
I wonder if Molina will be Moose’s personal catcher this year like he was in spots last year. Posada should benefit from more rest this year but I often wonder about Moose being high maintenance even though I like his cranky personality.
I love Mlina. What a great trade that was!
I don’t care if Ortiz pulls a rabbit out of his butt and Manny jumps over the wall himself instead of sending the ball there. When the game is over the Yankees will still be in first place over the losers from beantown.
Ortiz K’s. He must have been lulled back to sleep again during the bottom of the inning. Then Manny hits a GIDP. Could have been worse, but I think 4-0 holds up.
posada has some stiffness per ESPN
He probably got that stiffness from laughing at the Baseball Tonight commercial over and over and over again.
Dr.Acula,
Besides Jeter, I dont know anyone else that is around as many hott women as you are. All i can say is its great to be you(if i was single offcoarse).
Posada surely didn’t look at a picture of Canseco’s wife then …
Posada scratched. See update.
Aw man. I hope Posada’s ok!
Well that’s a shame. Nice to have Molina ready and not the stache’ or Wil.
Big Dean’s under the Santa Monica pier is the only place in LA that I know of to watch a Yankees game. And that is only because the main bartender is a big fan and will put the game on no matter what others are watching.
O’Neill is finally addressing the number issue.
Thank GOD we have Molina! Another genius move by Brian Cashman.
I would say that the Sux score should hold also. That game is so exciting that I decided to watch reruns of Judge Judy intead of watching any more of it.
LA Yanks Fan-If you want to go for a drive (I’m not sure where you are), you can go over to Disneyland and watch at ESPN Zone in Downtown Disney. They usually have screens tuned to the Yankees if they’re playing.
Lou Piniella must be close to his boiling point.
Kim jones just asked Paul O Neil about Hawkins wearing 21 and while he obviously didn’t show anger towards it I think you could see he was somewhat bothered by it.
I don’t blame him or the fans for feeling that way, it’s just plain stupid that Hawkins is wearing that number.
Sure he’s not A-Rod or a hall of famer with massive numbers, but that shouldn’t matter to a team honoring someones number. If theres a Yankee hall of fame, he’s in it. The guy was one of the main rocks of the 90’s dynasties and that is what matters.
Paul O Neil. Yankee.
Hawkins? What?
Neill*
I don’t blame LaTroy Hawkins for wearing the number he was assigned either. And while fans may be genuinely upset about it, I DO blame the mental midgets who would boo him. That had to be a wonderful wecome to the House that Ruth Built for a guy who hasn’t done anything short of accepting a contract that was offered to him!
When will the game begin – 7EST?
Welcome back, Dr. Ac! Great pictures, as usual—actually, even better than usual!!!! I forgot how good looking Derek Jeter was a really great picture of him. Also loved the shot of Melky against the wall!
Good luck to Mussina tonight! I’m hoping for a win for all to start the season (all the starters, that is).
Hey Everyone!!
What a wacked out week. Everything has gone wrong, except the Yankees
Oh, my team. They’ve always been there for me.
Rebecca- wOOt !! we got some catching up to do, Grrl.
Brandon- the one in the ARod jersey is a niece; the 4 pack are part of niece’s JerseyGirl crew; the 2-pack are two darling world-travelers, living it up in the right-field bleachers; not sure who’s the Babe with linked to my name, but she’s got rockn sensibilities.
Frits- I wish! I would have knocked over my nana to go, but she’s one tough cookie, and she knocked me outta da way, first.
And big SHOUTOUT to Gayle, Jen, Mel, Doreen, Clare, BBB, Blondie, Lori, Murphydog, UtilityMan, ThatWasMe, Pique, Buddy Biancalana, E-ROC, SaucY, J-Dawd, Drive 4-5, CB, Boston Dave, Brian PA, Don Vito, and the whole family – yes, even SJ
It’s always a treat to be with ya!!!
So many comments, last nite! WOOOW – it took a hour to read them this morning.
Thanks for the update on Posada. Let’s hope he’s okay, though, to be honest, I was surprised he was out there catching Mussina, but that’s just me.
Seems like Paulie had his chance to put the number thing to rest and decided not to. Although he didn’t exactly throw Hawkins under the bus he kept saying that its nice to be identified with that number… his kids wear that number on their basketball teams… he signs autographs with that number, etc.
Pathetic post
Doreen-
Hello Luv. It’s been tooo, tooo long.
Our team and our fans are quite the lookers, aren’t they. But then again, you already knew that.
I was trying to upgrade to the silver mlb screen and its stuck on loading. I have 400k mlb t.v. I downloaded it,restarted the computer and its not showing the game. Did i do something wrong?
Steph,
Moose isn’t really the #2 starter. It all depends on where you start the count. Now, yes, for tonight, he’s #2, but follow me here. Pettitte slips in on Saturday. He’s either #5, behind Kennedy, or #1, before Wang. That makes Mussina #3.
Believe it or not, I was playing this scenario out while I was eating dinner, thinking, man, Petttitte should not be the #5 starter, when it occurred to me that it’s all in the way you look at it! See? Also, they can at some point flip Wang and Pettitte and then they’re back to #1 Wang and #2 Pettitte, where they wanted to be in the first place!
Dr. A—Indeed! What have you been up to?
Of course it’s absurd that he’s wearing it. The only person who really disagrees is a portly, disingenuous beat writer.
Dr. Ac –
Yes, I did!!!
(P.S. I have made 2 brilliant posts regarding Mussina’s and Pettitte’s ACTUAL location in the rotation that haven’t shown up yet. To summarize, open your minds, broaden your horizons and think outside the box – Pettitte is either #5, after Kennedy, or #1 before Wang, which would make Mussina his expected #3!)
sos: If it’s the Boston game, it just ended. If it’s the Yankee game, it’s blacked out.
evening all, someone get jorge some ice
i gotta agree about paulie… he could have put the issue to bed but he kinda just made the people even talking about it have some worth. paulie, tell them that the hawk is a good player and move on.
I don’t usually do this, but I’m going to repost by OTHER brilliant post from the previous thread, where I discuss, #21, Joba’s fist pumps AND the always popular who should and should not be booed!
I said last night that it was extremely tasteless to boo any Yankee last night, opening night. You just don’t boo your own team, especially not in the circumstances of being introduced. What a welcome for La Troy Hawkins, huh? THIS is the house that Ruth built? I don’t think so. Even Farnsworth, before the first game of the season, deserved only applause – as in, welcome to the 2008 season, let’s be in this thing together!
Everyone is free to feel about a player whatever way they want to, but it shows absolutely no class to boo a player who works hard, and certainly to a boo a player who has no Yankee record whatsoever. And my mom always taught me, if you don’t have something good to say, say nothing at all. So, you don’t have to boo; just don’t cheer.
Paul O’Neill was a huge part of the 90’s Yankee Dynasty, no doubt. I personally don’t think his number should be retired, but in point of fact, it is not retired and if a player is assigned that number they should not be made to feel awful about wearing it (Ensberg), nor should they be a pariah for having chosen it (Hawkins). It is, quite simply, childish.
You can’t have it both ways with Joba’s fist pumps. You can’t say it’s obnoxious from anyone else who does it, and then excuse it for Joba because he is young and excited. So, Papelbon is not allowed to be excited? K-Rod is not allowed to be excited? Either you like the fist pump or you don’t, Yankee or not a Yankee. I wish they’d all tone it down just a teeny bit, but I really don’t think it does much real harm. It might fire a team up here or there, and it may annoy fans, but in the end, it’s not a big deal, and it’s part of the game. It’s certainly not the same as doing a dance in the endzone. If the team doesn’t like it, they will address it with Joba and it will be a non-issue. If the team has no issue with it, then it’s still a non-issue.
As for numbers that maybe should not have been retired? I say Billy Martin. He’s more of a folk hero than a “great Yankee,” even if he did bleed pinstripes. I also would say it would not bother me if Reggie’s number wasn’t retired, either. Yes, he was integral to those great years in the late 70s, but he wasn’t a Yankee for so long. Gator, maybe, too. Made great contributions, had a fantastic ‘78 season. But there’s got to be a distinction between a player whose number warrants being retired (Babe Ruth, Lou Gherig, Yogi, Whitey Ford), and those players who should be commemorated without having their numbers retired (most of the others). And maybe time needs to pass, 8 years after a player retires, maybe, before his number is retired, because emotions run way too high immediately after. Maris, too, maybe should not have been retired. Great year, wonderful accomplishment. But he’s not among the first person you think of when you think of great Yankees.
So i saw that Bowa got suspended for 3 games and fined for freaking out at Ed Montague (i think that’s who it was eitherway he freaked at an umpire). I can understand it because he was out of line. but watching the video, apparently it started because the umpire gave Bowa a hard time about not being in the coaching box. whatever. but the thing that pisses me off is that when joe torre is there holding Larry back, the umpire never backs down and is trying just as hard to get in Bowa’s face. i just think it’s absurd how it never seems that umpires get in any trouble for anything. i’ve seen them antagonize players and coaches in the past and nothing happens.
just a random rant. i hate umps sometimes.
la yanks fan-
thats a far drive from me (i live in the valley) but do alot of yanks fan show up there ? its good to know i might have to go there for a big game this year, i’ve been dying for a place to go ever since i moved out here.
steph-
thats way too far from me. but sounds cool.
Rebecca,
It just shows it as loading. I had the same problem yesterday and had to remove the program(mocrosoft silverlight). I guess ill have to remove it again.
Could Posadas shoulder be the reason why he bounced the last throw to Jeter yesterday?
SoS: what computer/OS/web browser do you use?
Doreen – i agree 100% re:21… well said
Keep an eye on AJ Burnett’s pitch selection tonight. He was unable to throw his curveball all spring due to a broken fingernail until his final spring start – and he got hit hard when he threw it.
The Yanks can feast on the fastball if Burnett can’t keep them off balance with any off-speed stuff.
I predict 6+ runs tonight for the Yanks. I don’t care what AJ’s stats against them were last season.
Burnett, especially, pitches better late in the season. His ERA is 1.30 better after the AS break.
Get ready for some runs – let’s hope.
Wow Doreen, you rock. That post was awesome and on the money top to bottom. I felt the same way about “fans” booing Kyle Farnsworth. I’m embarassed to admit I’m a Yankee fan when crap like that happens! Absolutely no excuse for it. And definitely classless.
About Joba, I actually took what Joba did as a show of emotional release rather than trying to show anybody up. He managed to get the Big Hurt out and yeah he was pumped. It isn’t like we were up by 5 runs. And here’s another thing for whatever it’s worth. Papelsmear is a big fat overblown walking egomaniac who thinks he is Mariano’s replacement and who thought he should be paid more than the fools in beantown were paying him – and they did it. His second full year in the majors. So when he has that ugly little scowl mouth on the mound or does his little victory pumps, I see that as TOTALLY different from someone like Joba who is probably one of the most humble kids you’ll ever meet. I see Papelsmear’s as “aren’t I great” while I see Joba’s as “yahoo I got the job done!” I’m sure that doesn’t count for anything in terms of people who don’t like any show of emotion, but I do think it’s accurate in terms of their personalities.
rebecca,
Im not too computer litterate. i have windows xp and i use yahoo. I dont know if that answered the question. I just removed the program again. Will have to use the old version. Thank you for your concern though.
S.o.S.27-
I have a Big, Giant Catholic family. But tri-state area is loaded with good looking men and women. We’re a magnet, we attract everyone who is sharp and creative. It’s the reason why so many photographers live here – kinda like how robbers knock over banks, cuz that’s where the money is at.
And as Chicago Dave(expat-new yawker) would testify, the windy-city is a very close second (all those central euro transplants).
Doreen,
to no surprise, you bring a welcomed voice of reason!
thank you
Trisha.
OK. Wow. Best of luck with that view. Again, wow.
All. Good luck this eve.
Have a good night.
-dennis
Doreen,
The same people that booed Hawkins are the ones who booed Jeter and Rivera a couple years back for struggling. Their not going to change.
Doreen – Excellent post
As much as we all want Jose Canseco to go away I don’t think it is going to happen. Just saw this in the NY Daily News:
“At Canseco’s book signing in midtown today, the power hitter-turned-author had some unexpected guests, who weren’t present to collect the slugger’s autograph. Victor Burgos and Eduardo Dominguez, two members of MLB’s newly formed Department of Investigations, visited the Barnes & Noble at 46th and Fifth Ave. to introduce themselves to Canseco and to try to set up a meeting.”
“We had no clue. They just showed up, out of the blue,” Robert Saunooke, Canseco’s attorney, told the Daily News. “They said, ‘We would like Jose to come help us.
Dennis, I actually haven’t uncovered anything that hasn’t come straight from Papelsmear’s mouth! It’s not my imagination.
If the poor Jays pitching staff stayed healthy they would definitely have a staff to be recokened with! You talk about snake bitten!!!
My prediction for tonight re: Moose. He is going to have some of his best stuff going. We’ll see whether my perspicacity goes unfettered!
Enjoy the game all.
Dennis,
trisha seems like one of the most biased people I’ve ever heard… but at least she is biased to the best team in baseball
DR.-I have a Big, Giant Catholic family.
If all those hott ladies are family. I take it back. Id hate to be you. Very nice family i must say.
Hey. Keep up the good work. I enjoy and appreciate what you bring to this blog.
Oh Boston Dave you’re just sore that those awesome position players for Detroit once again showed why they’re a force to be reckoned with! Don’t blame me that you haven’t yet realized that I possess infinite knowledge.
SoS: I mean, do you use Internet Explorer, Mozilla, etc? You’re probably better off with Mozilla.
All right everyone, LET’S GO YANKEES!
Fran,
Canseco keeps basically admitting that he “brokered” drug deals. It’s amazing that he brags about it and that there is apparently no legal recourse against him. It’s one thing to be a user, but this guy helped other guys buy illegal drugs.
Rebecca and all
I’m a Mac user and am haveing fits trying to get MLB audio to work
Safari which I used last rear just stutter steps.
I missed the game last night and was only able to follow it here via post ( thanks everyone for the updates)
Any body else haveing problems and is there a solution?
I’m even ready to dust off the old XP machine just for baseball
dale d
Good luck Mussina. Let’s get a win tonight.
Rebecca- I spent a long time in the frozen tundra of Iowa and in the slush of New Hampshire, and babysitting for every neighbors’ dog, within a 5 mile radius. Well, atleast they taught me how scratch the back of my head, using only my feet.
Doreen- Right ON! and your right, those posts are brilliant. You should never-ever boo one of your teammates and that’s what we are – a team. That’s why Jerkoff Giuliani is persona non-grata: selling us out to the rEd Sox!!
trisha,
I’m just glad you’re a Yanks fan. You would be the most unbearable and intolerable Red Sox fan on the planet
cmon Moose!!!
I’ve used Safari for audio before and haven’t had any trouble…are you using Silverlight?
If you can’t watch the game, I guess I’ll do a live blog.
Dave, oh God I am. I almost feel bad for Sux fans who have to deal with me. ALMOST. I am OPPRESSIVE! But accurate.
Go Moose!!!!
Okay, Giambi, you’ve gotta be a bit better than that.
Good to see the bleacher creatures are in mid season form.
Okay I am going to put myself on the line and guess that Moose has 5 really good innings at least. 1-5. I hope I’m right.
oh jason… i guess you cant blame him moose didnt get there in time either
Pete,
stop jinxing the players
“It was a one-run game and the Big G stayed out there on defense. He moved pretty well tonight and made several nice plays in the field.”
Giami booted it, Mussina didn’t get to the bag and Giambi lost the foot race…2 errors in ne play
That one is on Moose, he needs to cover first or else some may call him a fat pussie toad.
Dale: Try firefox. Firefox is microsoft compatible, I don’t think safari is.
Okay, c’mon Yanks, time to settle down and start playing.
Great outing Moose!
/sarcasm
not starting out great..did molina boot it?
Boston Dave,
Exactly. He did introduce players and dealers in many cases. And now MLB’s Department of Investigations is going to use him as a source. Jose has not been in baseball for a long time. Maybe they should just let go of the past and concentrate on keeping the game clean today.
keep the damn ball down
This is an amazing display of old people playing bad baseball.
The need for Chamberlain to replace Mussina in the rotation may soon become more pressing than the need for an 8th inning man.
Oh boy…please get a DP.
Come on Mussina. Get out of this
Exactly like that.
Mussina getting hit already. 1-0 Toronto. No outs. Giambi laxed on that play, but when you throw 85 mph then you can get hit, but Arod turns DP.. Thank God!!
Thanks for listening, Moose! Now get out of the inning.
Vernon Wells is just…not very good anymore. That was a very hittable pitch, and he did exactly what you shouldn’t try to do with a pitch like that.
Trisha.
I respect your fanship. Joba says its “not about the money” Cmon. ridiculous. Paps says he is setting the bar for future closers. Cmon. ridiculous. Is Joba in much better shape than Paps? I guess I will take your word on the subject….Certainly does not look like it.
All: What willl the delta be between OAK wins and TOR wins? I predict OAK has 76 and TOR has 86 at best.
Good Karma- dennis
Guys he has gotten the groundballs and a bloop hit relax geez.
Fran,
Selig and MLB claimed the Mitchell Report was done to get all of this in the past. If they make any further investigation of past events, it will be a complete contradiction to that.
the big hurt will strike out
That looked awfully good.
Let’s not jump on Moose yet.
It’s cold out, his first start, etc. It’s early and neither of the hits were that hard.
yes, these are excuses. no, a bad start here doesnt mean Moose will never win another game.
Time in game before people start calling for the time of death of Moose – 0.1 of an inning, lol.
Good inning Moose!
Mike Mussina had a bit of bad luck, Giambi should have made that first out, then the nice hit into the gap, and then the bloop. He had an alright inning.
All right, let’s get Moose some run support!
Not too much damage. Nice recovery.
Well, Mussina definitely looked much worse in his first start last year. The Orioles battered him, if I recall correctly.
Hey that’s pretty much what we can hope for from Moose. All things considered he didn’t do too badly. If he can give up a couple here and there I’ll be happy.
Glad he got out of the inning relatively unscathed.
Like I said a little while ago, watch Burnett’s pitch selection.
I think it will be lots of fastballs – and I’m sure the Yanks know this.
Moose is looking good so far. That was a lucky unearned run.
If he can keep the ball on the ground, it shouldn’t be too bad. Unless all of those balls find holes.
Update:
Pedro out 4-6 weeks
!
Time for some runs
Mussina’s command might not be good enough for him to survive the year with that kind of fastball. While he’s got the reputation for Maddux-like control, and low BB/9 rates, watching him over the last few seasons, he misses his spots within the zone quite often, leaving a lot of fastballs up. That’s why he got clobbered last year. And it’s hard to be confident that won’t continue.
Nice job Moose getting out of that inning with only 1 unearned run.
How often this year are we gonna hear about Cano “someday” hitting 3rd?
Although Jeter, Cano, A-Rod, Abreu is a pretty good 2-5.
Ouch, sucks for the Mets’ rotation. Wonder who they’ll try to plug in…they’ll probably have to sign somebody. Maybe Jeff Weaver…haha.
oops
Why all the FB Boston Dave?
Wow. Pedro’s out for that long? I guess the mets will sign jeff weaver now
where’s CB??
Uh, that wasn’t a strike.
c’mon johnny
Bad Scooter,
they are talking about it now on ESPN
broken fingernail for Burnett
Glad I’m not a Mets fan O_O
Good to hear Sheppard…it just doesn’t feel right without him.
8 pitches, 8 fastballs
yah Jete!
Mets’ll sign Claudio Vargas from Brewers.
Nice hit!
Thanks BD. So far you’re right. All FB’s.
As long as Jeter can do that, he’ll hit .300. It’s the key to his entire offensive game.
dale d:
This is what you want.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/wmcomponents.mspx
It plays MLB audio (Windows Media format) on your Mac without any issues.
– KMT
Boston Dave – Agreed but when did that ever stop Selig.
The Mets have nothing to trade, so they’re probably going to have to sign someone.
First curve.
Ron,
you act as though .300 is a hurdle for Jeter – he hits .300 every year
Hit #2 for Derek. 198 to go.
Good hustle by Abreu.
Bad Scooter,
AJ did throw the curve in his final spring start (for the first time) but it was hit hard.
It looks like he’ll be able to mix it in tonight, unfortunately… but I still expect more fastballs than usual.
Jetes will hit .300 with his eyes closed. if abreu has a big power year, he might hit .345 again
Oh well, we give A-Rod a fresh at bat next inning.
I am so tired of the automatic out calls by umps. He seemed to be in position, but on the replay Abreu was clearly safe.
He looked safe…but that wasn’t good! Yankees need to score a bunch tonight.
Caught stealing…ugh
Exactly. He retains a lot of value because he hits above .300. Were that to stop, he loses a lot of offensive value, because his power has been sapped in recent years and while he’s patient enough, he isn’t exactly Giambi at the plate.
slo mo says abreu was safe at second grrrrrr
Noooo not Guiseppe Franco. One thing I did NOT miss about the baseball season. cringe
Ron,
no doubt…. but he is pretty consistent at least.
Jeter has the right swing to continue hitting singles and doubles to right field…I can’t see him not hitting .300. But let’s hope he doesn’t eventually become what Bernie was in his last season…a bad fielding singles hitter.
c’mon mooser!
Apparently the outside corner does not exist for Mr. Meals.
when the throw beats Abreu that badly, he’s not going to get the close call
that said, the umps were HORRIBLE last season and arent off to a good start
Geeze turn ya back and there’s 100 new posts!
Moosey done good. He will be fine. Just watch.
Boston Dave is right. Cripes give the guy a chance. It’s cold out there!
Damon doesn’t have the plate patience that he once had.
Ok Moose, we know you can do this, so let’s go!
Prediction:
NYY 6
TOR 3
Mussina: 6 IP, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 H, 4 SO
Player of the Game: Robbie Cano; 3-4, 2 2B, 3 RBI
Someone needs to write “The ship is sinking” on Moose’s whiteboard.
Anyone else think it looks like Moose is getting squeezed on some pitches, or is it just my Yankee bias?
Moose is a very bright guy. But he’s stubborn as hell. It seems like almost all of his walks come when he repeatedly tries to hit the outside corner of the plate and fails, either because he misses by an inch, or the ump doesn’t give it to him. You’d think he’d try something else to avoid a leadoff walk.
Brad—he saw 6 pitches. That was six pitches for Derek to see and for sure helped with the base hit.
Not that people need to be applauded for doing their job… but it’s refreshing that Orel Hersheiser actually does some research on teams and knows what he’s talking about.
eek
Come on Moose. You can do this
If Mussina doesn’t settle down soon he may make Girardi have to re-think the idea of a long reliever.