Game 8: Yankees at Royals
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- April
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Cano 2B
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Giambi 1B
Betemit SS
Cabrera CF
Hughes RHP
Notes: The rain has let up. … Jeter said the pain in his left quad is “not that bad” but he’s not sure how long he will be out. … Giambi is playing for the first time since Saturday when he had a groin pull. … Bench coach Rob Thomson is a Kansas grad and is quite pleased with his Jayhawks.
UPDATE, 3:08 p.m.: Joe Girardi told us that Jeter will not play in this series and the hope is that he will be able to play “sometime” in the Boston series.
They’re going forward with Betemit at SS and haven’t discussed the idea of using A-Rod.
UPDATE, 3:55 p.m.: They just introduced the teams (It’s Opening Day here). Meanwhile, here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game press conference:
UPDATE, 5:06 p.m.: Brian Bannister has thrown 54 pitches in his two innings and Phil Hughes is at 49 and still needs to get the last out in the bottom of the second. My keen sense of baseball tells me we’re not going to get a complete game from either starter today.
UPDATE, 5:11 p.m.: Wow, 55 pitches for Hughes in two innings. He didn’t get much help from his defense in that inning, but his location is way off.
As long as the game is close, you have to leave Hughes in and hope to get two or three more innings out of him.
They really should have a long reliever.
UPDATE, 5:36 p.m.: Wow, ugly outing for the Franchise, yet the game is tied. His inning pitch totals: 22 33 24. He doesn’t seem to be able to get a grip on his curveball.
UPDATE, 5:52 p.m.: So much for Phil Hughes. He’s out after giving up two hits and a run in the fourth inning. The Royals also have stolen four bases.
3-2 KC in the fourth.
UPDATE, 6:31 p.m.: Wow, the Yankees are playing awful defense today. Very sloppy.
UPDATE, 6:49 p.m.: A-Rod has struck out four times. That’s the fourth time in his career he has done it, the first time since 2006.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: Jorge Posada is out of the game with what must be some sort of inury. Just speculation, but given his throws his shoulder must still be bothering him.
So much for spring training setting up the Yankees to be healthy at the start of the season.
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hmmm… Cano moves up to the number 2 slot
Is it bad or good luck that Bill Buckner is rumored to be throwing out the first pitch for the Sox today?
Why isn’t Shelley playing? he just finished his 2 day suspension.
I’m a KU grad as well. PUMPED!
I figured they would put Cano in the #2. Who else could fill that role? The way Matsui is swinging the bat hes perfect for protecting A-Rod. I think thats the best option
Canò in the two spot?
Thoughts people?
Edit: Mike, congratulations =)
Let’s go Yanks!
Im interested to see what kind of reaction Buckner gets..
The news media up here just confirmed it.
“Why isn’t Shelley playing? he just finished his 2 day suspension.”
where should he be playing?
we need to get robbie going…matsui/arod/abreu are clicking time to get others goijng
ABK–
Giambi is at first so no need to Shelley on top of the fact that Banister is pitching who is a RHP
cano can’t be any worse than jeter right now!
Is Jeter’s injury a groin or quad? YES Network (and now Peter) say it’s a quad, but ESPN is saying it’s a groin.
I realize ESPN is right about 1% of the time, but I figuerd I’d toss that out there.
I wish the Yankees would demote Betemit (who looks simply horrible at the plate) and call up Gonzalez or somebody else who can play good SS.
Robbie hit the ball hard last night. he should have had two hits but Hinske robbed him.
I think he is a good fit for the number 2.
how bout johnny damon gets going? That would be nicer!
“where should he be playing?”
what ! how can you say that, I mean he’s cleats and heart why shouldn’t he be out there, I mean Giambi is only more experienced than him at hitting but Shelley screams after a strikeout and even hits teammates when he needs to.
I actually like Abreu better than Cano in the two spot. Abreu is lefty; gets on base a lot; NEVER grounds out; looks at a ton of pitches; and can run. I’m not sure Cano has the maturity/concentration to be as consistent as a 2 hitter has to be just yet. I think they should keep Cano in the 5-6 spot in general; but for the time being, put Abreu in the 2 spot, Cano in the 3 spot, A-Rod 4th, etc. A-Rod likes to hit behind Bobby, so a short-term solution. But I imagine that Cano in the second spot is also a short-term solution.
Dan EVERYONE except espn says quad, but ESPN says groin so it must be groin.
Dan, it is a quad. don’t listen to ESPN, the probably will report that his leg has to be amputated. Boston lovers!
A.B.K.–he can’t hit righties worth, well, anything.
hopefully the 2 spot will only be vacated by the captain for a few days. no big deal. whoever hits there will be ok.
I’d rather put the Melkman in the 2 spot he;s been swinging the bat pretty good so far, hey you never know maybe this will help Robbie to get it going.
Hoping for a good game from Hughes, Bannister was very tough on thr Tigers in his last start.
Nevermind. ESPN corrected it now. I checked their main page this morning and saw “groin.” It only took them five hours to get it correct today. That must be some sort of new record.
I think that the only options for the two spot were Robbie or Melky. But since Posada is back he is a good #6 hitter so they can move Robbie up to 2.
Shelley doesn’t hit RHP. I’d say he might come in to pinch hit, but he wouldn’t be able to take Betemit’s position in the field.
Though, given that he is Shelley, who knows, maybe he plays a better short than A-Rod and Jeter combined
Cano there keeps Abreu at his “natural” position in the order. Robi can use the shakeup as well. Or it could be punishment for the error.
phillies broadcasters just called the mets the nationals twice in one inning. just thought that was weird. i also think it’s funny that “Pagan” and “Church” hit back to back in the Mets order.
Cano seems to be coming around lately. Had a long at bat that resulted in a hit on sunday, he had an RBI yesterday. maybe 2nd will be good for him. can’t think of anyone better to put in that spot anyway.
BTW, for the Cano/2nd debate — It could be that Girardi is attempting to force Cano to take pitches.
Unfortunately, Cano has a lower career average (.279) batting second than at any other place in the lineup.
Listen: you can put Matsui in left and Shelley to DH, and at least once in a while give that worthless Damon a rest on the bench…
I hope Cano takes some pitches. I hate that he always seems to go up there hacking.
Melky hit .309 in the #2 spot last year. Just something to think about.
Lefty Mussina is pitching for Detroit against Boston.
Show of hands, who’s rooting for the Tigs to go 0-7 and who’s rooting for sox to drop the opener?
I thought they might move Melky to the 2 spot, but Cano has shown signs of coming around (as Matsui did before he moved down in the order and proved that to be the case), so I think it’s a good move.
Mel i agree. they shouldn’t mess with Abreu. he is locked in batting 3rd, don’t mess with a good thing.
Damon is like, one of the only guys in our lineup that actually hit last October and people still call him worthless.
Brian (from PA)
Who cares about the Mets and Phils?
If anyone is rooting for the Sox to beat the Tigers … well, it’s time for them to turn in their fan cards.
No self-respecting Yankees fan is cheering on the little boys from bean town.
brian, who said he is worthless? he just really needs to get going. the only time he hit last year was the post season! he needs to set the table!
“Brian (from PA)
Who cares about the Mets and Phils?”
we’re bored
Ops I thinks its fair to say that most people here are ROOTING HARD for the Tigers
watching the sox ceremonies makes me sick
Brian: The Pagan and Church juxtaposition is awesome. Now they just need Miroslav Satan to learn how to handle a baseball bat.
As I said earlier, I think Bobby’s going to have a monster year, which means a) I’m REALLY glad he’s on my fantasy team, and b) you don’t mess with his spot in the line up.
yankees62
well, a lot of people considering they’re two of the larger market teams in the NL and are both playoff contenders. besides it’s the only game on right now. didn’t think someone would take issue if i made any observations about the game. sorry if you were offended.
go Tigers go…take the advantage while you can….
I wonder if Girardi gave any thought to putting Alex at short and Betemit at 3rd. Betemit at short scares me.
sara,
A.B.K. called him “the worthless Damon” just a few posts ago. that is what i was responding to.
Totally rooting for the tigers. worry about the division first, then the wild card. if daisuke’s off at all, the detroit lineup should chew him up with no problem.
hell yeh I’m rooting for the Tigers !
Damon had his first good game yesterday. No way you can bench him today. I like Shelley batting better than Betemit, even against RHP, but Shelley can only really play two positions, and short isn’t one of them.
Just for your info: A-Rod has faced today’s starter Brian Bannister twice and has homered both times. (2-for-2 with 2 home runs!).
I’m not proposing that they play him there, but did Robbie Cano come up as a shortstop?
can we all get this out of the way…
shelley duncan isn’t good.
he isn’t an everyday player.
he is a bench player at best, if not a situational hitter off the bench.
he would be better suited for the national league as a pinch hitter for lefties.
he does not need to play 2 or 3 times a week.
Gitmo: You might be confusing him with Soriano?
Anyway, as much as I love Robbie, three errors in the first seven games does not make me that anxious to play him at short unless Betemit and Gonzalez both got hurt as well.
ok, fine, cano. majority wins.
prove me wrong, robbie, i’m begging you.
but honestly? i think it’s foolhardy to put cano in the second spot and hope he grows into it, when you have abreu already hitting well and statistically profiling as a much better hitter from the second spot in the order. he’s hit all over the order in his career, and he’s always been consistent in the end (no stats, at work, but just that female intuition talking). a good reason not to move him would be to make sure he stays batting behind jeter - which isn’t going to happen today, anyway.
but anyway. go get em robbie!
Whew! Back from food shopping. My favority chore - NOT!
Thank you to all of you who answered my question(s) regarding Firefox. I actually think it might be worth it to download onto the mac I use during the games. A lot of the features it has are similiar to IE7, so I don’t know about putting in here (although, Whozat, I guess Active X controls are something I should learn more about and try to avoid them?).
I like Cano in the #2, although Melky would have been okay, too. But with Matsui clicking, and moved up on the lineup, I think the flow is better and the protection for each hitter better, the way Girardi did it. We’ll see, won’t we??
We have to root for the Tigers, yes!
Game time is 4 p.m. eastern, right?
Get em Tigers.
“Cano has a lower career average (.279) batting second than at any other place in the lineup.”
No offense but these stats are useless. There are too many factors involved (ie. sample size, pitchers faced, other teams defense, weather conditions, players surrounding you when you’re in the #2 spot).
What’s the big deal?
First: Go Tigers!
Second: Abreu is better at taking pitches than Cano, and I think ARod is better at clean-up with Bobby in front of him. (no numbers to back that up, but I know I heard ARod say that several times last year).
Third: I can’t wait until 4pm. Even the Mets game is boring. Anyone listen to/watch the Red Sox home opening ceremonies - what was the reaction to Buckner.
If the Tigers sweep the series, they’re 3-6 and the Sox and are 3-7. We get the Sox right afterwards and we don’t get the Tigers until later this month. What possible reason is there to root for the Sox?
Our old buddy Rogers is pitching today. If he is anything short of exceptional, my disgust of him will rise a little more.
on hold with MLB.TV customer support….this should be a fun afternoon.
Hopefully we can beat the Royals today, we don’t have the best schedule.
Gitmo - Cano was a third baseman. There was talk when Alex opted out that the Yanks might ask Cano to go to third since he had played there and then get a second baseman.
Betemit is nothing but a strike out artist. Jeter but hurry back soon….
They cheered Buckner, Buckner cried
Go Tigers
Doreen: 4 PM, yes.
You can’t be a Yankee fan and consciously route for the Red Sox. That’s like…well, I can’t think of a non-political metaphor, but you get the idea.
is it me or this game Phils vs Mets lacking juice
stupid Jason Werth just hurt Victorino.
i am also rooting for the Tigers in this one. I don’t think there has ever been a situation where i’ve rooted for the Red Sox. like, ever. Even if there was ever a time where for me it would’ve been beneficial for the Red Sox to win, i would still not root for them. I am too loyal a Yankees fan.
couple Phillies outfielders just collided. lol.
maybe now that the sox have welcomed buckner back into the fold, sox fans can get over their perpetual victim complex. but you know what they say: if wishes were horses…
if the mets trotted out mookie wilson to throw out the first pitch at their next game, i think i would stand up and applaud.
If you have the rights to do so, you can edit the security level of IE via Internet Options in Control Panel (or Tools->Internet Options from within IE itself) to disable ActiveX controls, set to prompt, or whatever else is possible (I’m actually using IE 6 with all ActiveX controls disabled; yes, I do spend time to change options in the few occasions that are necessary xP)
ahhh Governor Patterson is a Mets fan
Well, one situation where I would cheer for the Red Sox is if a win would help get us into the postseason via the WC.
But that’s it. Absolutely it.
Go Yanks
brandon: any update on the victorino injury? is he still in the game?
I don’t know if i’ve said this before, but in Kevin Youkilis’ picture on gameday he looks like a stoned lumberjack….
Moose doin big things last night. Think Kennedy will be fine? what are the chances if Jeter goes on the DL that A-rod could move to shortstop. I would think Jeter would have to miss a substantial amount of time for Girardi to do somethin like that
mel: Even then you don’t root for the Sox to win, you root for the other team to lose.
Brandon - such a lame game. The poor Mets broadcasters are working so hard to make it exciting, but they are terrible. They can’t describe anything so you have no idea.
Brian - ok, I admit it. I once rooted for the Red Sox. In the 1986 WS against the Mets. I was in my college bar, had too many to drink and was flirting with a really cute guy who was rooting for the Red Sox. My roommate yelled at me the next day (which was really really mean since, as I mentioned, I’d had too much to drink) and I’ve never done it again. Ah, I feel cleansed having confessed my sins.
go Yankees! go Tigers!
And I will absolutely cheer for Sheff…when he plays the Red Sox.
No-hitter busted as Shef gets a single.
I don’t think I could ever cheer for the Red Sox. Ever.
Still remember Rudy with that stupid hat on. Whatever!
I think Girardi put this line up together in part to minimize the disturbances. Keep Melky at 9 where he’s been hitting instead of putting Betemit there (although I doubt Giambi gets many good pitches - though even with melky behind him he might not…)
Cano has shifted around a bit as it is so he’s moving him up to 2 with jeter out makes sense. He had some good at bats yesterday. Perhaps this will make him focus on being more selective - the past two games he looked better about that.
This’ll be an interesting game for Matsuzaka and Detroit. Will Detroit be patient and drive up his pitch count? Will he pitch as well as he did last game?
Victorino is still in. Guess it wasn’t serious. Couldn’t tell from anything the announcers said.
But the Mets have the bases loaded with 1 out against Moyer in the bottom of the 4th.
i would have rooted for Tigers to go 0-7 if they werent playing the BoSux…
Lori: Lol. Thanks for the honesty. I have to say though, no matter how hot i think a girl is if she is rooting for the Red Sox i wouldn’t flirt with her. There was a smokin hot Red Sox fan in front of me in the left field bleachers last year at the Stadium and she got pissed off at her boyfriend. for a second i wanted to say something to her but then i got a hold of myself and said “Brian, she is a sox fan, therefore she is scum” and i ignored her the rest of the game.
Victorino is ok this broadcasting isn, I mean a seriously boring game and a LHP topping out at 78 mph on his heater and they only get 2 runs out of it.
Oli Perez w/ basesloaded vs Moyer’ 75 mph fastball is trying to bunt now he strikes out …
Luis Castillo is already hurt again, Damion Easley just subbed in for him for no reason in the 5th
sometimes i think the Phillies broadcasters are great, and other times they are so mind-numbingly boring i can’t stand it.
been on hold with MLB.TV tech support for 30 mins and counting.
can’t wait until 4:10. that is, if an MLB.TV operator ever picks up and fixes my MLB.TV. even if they don’t though, i have XM. god bless XM radio.
Are the Orioles making anyone else nervous?
Brian
What’s your problem with MLB TV?
Mine won’t play after “connecting” and “ready”
is your problem similar?
Please let me know if they are helpful. I’ve emailed them -with no real help. I have not had the time to call them.
those poor ole mets…most of them have AARP Insurance…
thisguy: thanks for the baseball lecture.
yes, i’m rooting for the tigers, but it IS hard, especially with kenny “pine tar” rogers on the mound
as I am watching the game on sny not sure if you are getting phils radio of tv broadcasters the tv omer are better
“Are the Orioles making anyone else nervous?”
And the Red Sox don’t score in the bottom of the 1st, despite having runners on 2nd and 3rd.
Elizabeth: Don’t worry about the O’s. A few years ago they were actually a decent team on paper and were in first place for months before petering out. Don’t worry. they’ll be a minor annoyance at the most this year, but will still finish in the cellar, 4th place at the most.
Elizabeth: Not after the first week. If they’re still winning at a .700 clip in May, I might notice a little.
“10:34 a.m.: Still waiting for Willie, but Mets COO Jeff Wilpon just confirmed that Rick Astley’s ’80s hit “Never Gonna Give You Up” will be the official 8th inning sing-a-long tune after fans voted in on Fark.com blog”
WE RICKROLLED THE METS
also just sent that via iPhone got the thick black line no edit anyone else I think I phone uses safari
Brandon–what’s that devious smile for?
right now, however, the orioles are beating texas 2-0.
but in general, no, not worried about them. maybe in two or three years, since they are clearly trying to rebuild right now.
Why do I have a weird feeling that now that Jeter is out of the lineup, the offense is going to start clicking on all major cylinders and then when he comes back into the lineup, it will sputter again?
I know. I know. Stone me.
Any idea why Alex doesn’t play short and let Morgan play third?
I Want a QB Controversy: Start following the Jets.
Honestly, with the way Betemit’s flailing (and I am a fan of him), that makes the most sense. God forbid Jeter have to suffer a bruised ego. Ensberg is an experienced third baseman and A-Rod can still play short well. Why not get creative?
i’d like to know the same thing QB…i think a lot of us do
Elizabeth no I’m not worried about the Orioles
and my smile is because the MEts fans have to sing a long in the 8th inning this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU8GIRUd_g
qb, it’s because alex hasn’t played shortstop for more than a few innings since 2003. his body, his fundamentals and his skill set have all changed considerably since then. betemit’s sole purpose on the team is to fill in at times like this. i think there are a lot of posts in the last thread about this.
coco almost dropped a fly ball, but drew got there in time to catch it. still 0-0 at fenway.
“Rather than commit to that as the new eighth-inning tune since it probably doesn’t reflect the fan base’s wishes, the Mets will play the top six selections once apiece during the first six games of their home stand. The one that draws the largest crowd response will stick.”
-Daily News.
Gayle - I posted on my iPhone this morning, and although there is the black line, if you click on it, you can edit.
i want an iphone - any idea when the new ones are coming out?
10:30 AM Wilpon comment
New York City is going to have the two most beautiful ballparks in MLB!
Where did you pull that quote Brandon?
who r the people who post play by play from games here? Get lives
Personally, these speculations on long-term solutions for replacing Jeter are making me feel ill, even though I know it’s just speculation. Until we hear otherwise, I’d rather assume that in reality he’ll be back within a matter of days. I’m opting for positive thinking here. Betemit can handle short for a few games. Maybe he’ll even connect with the ball once or twice…
10:34 AM - adam Reubin’s Daily News blog
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2008/04/final-opening-day-at-shea-live.html
Jeter out for KC, hopes to play vs. Red Sox, a little birdie told me.
I look at the lineup and seeing Cano 2nd is fine, hopefully he can work the count a bit. The interesting thing in this lineup is that Giambi lost his 5 spot now that he is back from injury. That’s the right move. Giambi should be a part time player, the sooner Joe G. realizes that the better.
Everyone secretly loves being RickRolled. The fans will cheer for that.
Hello all -
We had a great day out in Florence. Saw the Uffizi museum, walked around, ate well, spent money….All the good things.
Bummer that Derek has a sore quad, but better safe than sorry. With the temp at 40 degrees in KC, I hope Phil doesn’t get hurt. I hope he’s getting a good rub down, or whatever, so that he’s good and loose. I’d be very disappointed if he pulls another hammy.
Well, it’s been great reading about Mussina’s win, but there’s wine to drink with the mrs.
Have a good evening all, and Let’s Go Yankees!
Vince source or BS we don’t accept little birdies or big birdies here, what you think this is Fenway
Vince–a little birdy?
Keith - thanks for the response in previous topic.
thanks brandon.
i’m gonna have that song in my head until i get out of work now…
O’s up 4-0…
I wonder if they would show the crowd reaction on SNY or Radio. 8th inning is coming up pretty soon.
As much as I hate that pine tar cheating b*stard Kenny Rogers, I hate the Sux more!
Come on Tigers!!!!!
Jeter went down for a hell of a long time and Eric Almonte took over and not only did the Yankees survive, they thrived. I guess you have to be there but I just can’t understand all the hubub. Cripes, the Yankees do know what they’re doing here! You’ll see what they do when they do it. And how long they do it. They’re actually paid to figure that stuff out and figure it out in such a way as the Yankees are given the best chance to succeed. It isn’t like the whole team came down with the bubonic plague here.
Not to sound like a downer or anything, my opinion on Jeter’s injury, take it how you want, I know opinions are like ……. everyone has one and most of them stink. So far today I have seen on 3 or 4 websites that if Jeter should be out for an extended period of time the Yankees should not move Alex to SS. And the reasoning seems to be inferred because it will make Derek mad in some way like its some sort of judgement call on his abilities at short. Or that he is so tenured there that no one else can ever play that position. They want the Yanks to call up a slick fielding minor leaguer who can’t hit a lick to take his place. Why!!!! The best option for winning would be to call up that minor leaguer as a backup to Alex who will be playing short. The Yankees have two very capable good hitting and good fielding 3rd basemen on the bench In Ensberg and Betemit. If Giambi can play first or Duncan for that matter, Alex playing short and Ensberg at 3rd seems like the best option if Jeter goes on the disabled list.
Let’s just say I worked at the daily news for a while.
Guys on the TV… did they shift for PAPi with bases loaded?
Wow. Bases loaded and Papi flies out to deep right to end the inning.
Rogers is lucky it’s only 1-0. He’s put 8 on through 2.
lets just say your late because 1050 already confirmed he’d be out atleast a week
since 11 AM
Did the Mets not have anyone throw out the first pitch. I didnt see it on tv and didnt see any mention of it on the daily news game blog
Sorry, that’s 5 on through 2. Edit button please!
Rogers is real lucky…
edit: why do I always confuse Rogers with Kevin Brown?
my MLB.TV is working!! Jimmy, mlb.tv customer support is very helfpul and apologetic. watching the sox-tigers game.
and if you need some excitement yes is showing the balitmore game from last year with the arod walk off and we are now in the bottom of the 9th so it will be up shortly
Tigers don’t look good again today.
Good to hear that the weather has cleared up. Interesting lineup today. With Matsui swinging the way he is, it’s probably best he’s behind A-Rod.
DMan The day is young. Have faith!
thanks, gayle
glad to hear
Gayle: Always looking for new ways to procrastinate, thanks!
way to go
editing is sweeet
DMan,
And the worse part? Rogers is 45 pitches through 2. That means the ugly bullpen will make an early entrance.
Speaking of the red sox. Colown is out now for a straighned side. They embarrassed Kaz Matsui and said it was his bung hole. Tell the truth.He pull a love handle.
This Orioles team sort of reminds me of the 80 something Brewers. Where they started out 13-0 and didnt make the playoffs. Not to worry. They will comeback down to earth.
I just want to brag about me picking Kansas to win it all. I would like that cookie to be chocalote chip. Great game. Feel for Memphis. Coaches fault for not having them foul in the end of the game.
manny inside the park homer ( sorta)
A little birdy told me too.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/
wow the Tigers really suck
Manny woulda scored on the sac fly by Lowell anyway. Still.
Does Betemit still have options? I feel that, with Derek out for a week, that having someone who can truly field the position is important right now. I’d rather have the Atty General on the roster at the moment than Betemit. Lord knows he can’t be any worse offensively than what we’ve seen from Wilson thus far.
The Post reported that Cashman said this morning that Arod was an option at SS if Jeter were to miss extensive time.
A-Rod should stay at third… makes no sense to move him to short..
so because one guy got hurt, we should shift everybody around?
yeah, yeah, i know arod played short in another life .. but that was another life.
We’ll be fine for a few days…
…honestly, i almost kind of like the fact that the Yankees must now dig a little deeper.
Something happens to a team in these instances.
..see ‘Losing Matsui and replacing him with Melky’ in ‘06
Why is everybody SO quick to panic?
Let’s go Yankees..
Let’s go Hughes!!
Sorry, link didn’t post:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04082008/sports/yankees/a_rod_could_play_shortstop_105592.htm
Sorry, link didn’t post.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04082008/sports/yankees/a_rod_could_play_shortstop_105592.htm
playa: nobody is panicking, not me at least…but why not put your best players on the field?
betemit is not one of our best players. i’d much rather have ensberg at 3rd and a-rod at SS
we’re trying to win games on a tough road trip
It’s so funny watching this and knowing how it ends…
i’m pumped to see phil franchise pitch tonight.
watching the sox ceremonies makes me sick
Why on earth would you do something like that? That’s like pouring salt into an open wound.
Yeah, Alex!
“edit: why do I always confuse Rogers with Kevin Brown?”
Maybe because they both sucked as Yankees.
Ha Ha - Chase Utley HBP for the 3RD time today! Bases loaded Phillies.
polanco pulls a “shelley slide” on pedroia… no reaction from umpire
holy crap big error by Delgado Phillies tie the game on a basesloaded would be inning ending DP
Brian in PA
Thanks! That helps.
Even funnier - on the next play, Utley gets hit in the back by a ball being thrown to second base.
Thank you for the wonderful news, Brandon
As for the Sox/Tigers - whoever wins it is OK. If the Tigers keep falling further back, it is one less to worry about for the wild card. We want to keep the wild card in the AL East.
Course I love to see the Sox lose though
I would love to watch Alex play short-stop if Jeter is out for an extended period of time. However, if Alex does really well, you will hear a lot (more) that Jeter’s defense is declining, and that the Yankees instead of Jeter should have Alex playing short, This would make Jeter mad, not the fact that they put Alex at short while he was out. In my opinion they should leave Alex put at third, give Betemit a chance to play defense at short for while and if it doesn’t work than we look for someone else. Is funny that Betemit is call “important” because he can play all positions, and if so why won’t the Yankees trust him at short after all the praising he receive for his all position good defense. I personally don’t believe he’s on the 24 man roster because of his bat. So, give him the opportunity to play short, and don’t move A-rod. That’s my take on the whole issue.
Brandon - Yeah - but you have to feel bad for Utley. The guy must have a target painted on his uniform!
S.O.S.: Thanks.
Lori it’s obvious he said something to the Mets players during the intros
MikeEff
I’m a pitching and defense guy.
I love the fundamentals of the game and proper execution.
Two things the Yankees have gotten away from the past few years.
With Jeter out for a week … even if it was for two weeks… and we let super-glove gonzalez play for the time being, i think our defense would be that much tighter, adn also giving us another guy to lay down a bunt when we need it… maybe take more than ONE pitch an at bat. (Jeter’s been killing me with his first pitch swinging!… he still doesn’t have a walk yet!)
Love Jeter .. favorite player of all time .. if i could be one person for a day, i’d be jete .. so please don’t think i’m sending him down the river ..
..however… if we had that two week window of small ball and execution, it would only help us throughout the rest of the year.
..this is also half the reason why i was in MAJOR FAVOR of girardi steering this ship.
I miss the Yankees playing ‘BASEBALL’.
If betemit is not on this team because of his defense why in the world is he on the team. Because the guy can’t hit, at least that’s what I have seen so far.
solution to shortstop.
If Jeter is out for awhile sign(if he isnt on a team)or trade for Omar Vizquel.
Man the Tigers couldn’t hit their way out of a paperbag today.
Werth opposite field Basehit Phillies up one
I wonder what Delgado was thinking when he threw that fastball at Utley’s back
Vizquel just had surgery and is on the DL. He’s out for a while.
playa: great stuff…nothing i’d disagree with there, but i was talking about having a-rod play short instead of betemit. not AG…
i love great defense as well…does betemit provide that at short? i’m not sold on that.
Ken Singleton and David Cone calling today’s game.
This is going to be entertaining.
No Michael Kay today. Yeah, I say. Yeah.
See Girardi on the pre-game. Hopes to have Derek back for the Boston series so right now no roster moves. When asked about Alex moving to SS he did not shoot it down. Said we haven’t discussed all of our options internally.
go Tigers!
..stoned lumberjack hits a sac fly, 3-0 sox.
Detroit is on its way to 0-7…. their lineup is making Dice-K look like the second coming of Cy Young. Unbelievable.
No Michael Kay today
I know I’m probably being greedy here, but does this mean he’ll be out for the entire KC series as well?
Who got the worst of the proctor/betimet trade? Proctor has a 9.82 era in 3.2 innings. Already ginin up 2 bombs.
Thanks Steph. The only other option offcoarse is Baby huey playing short. I believe in you Shelley!!
Man…I’m actually feeling a bit sorry for the Tigers right now. I’m almost going soft. Too soft for my liking, anyway.
HAS EVERYONE LOST THEIR MINDS ? JETER WILL BE PLAYING ON FRIDAY AGAINST THE SOX… NO WAY HE MISSES IT…
saucY: Yeah I think they cycle series generally…
Steph-
Don’t feel to bad. they’ll break out eventually. Lets just hope its not when we have to play them.
NO GENERATION TREY COMMENTS!!
But Nancy Newman is awful!
DMnan: exactly…they’ll break out of their slump on april 29th when they arrive in the bronx…
Doreen - She really is. Bob Lorenz is so good in the studio.
If Jeter has to go on the DL, Gonzalez will be brought up almost certainly. I don’t see Duncan moving to short…so either the Yanks move A-Rod to short and platoon Betemit and Ensberg at 3rd or Betemit plays full-time short if it’s in the short term. I mean, remember when Almonte came up for Jeter back in 03? The Yanks won’t make a trade.
I think Proctor’s off to a rough start, but he looked good for the Dodgers down the stretch last year. Maybe he needs to burn some equipment…but if Betemit bats righty again, I’ll have to start thinking.
I like Bob Lorenz. He’s very polished. I keep waiting for Nancy to get better, but it’s like she has trouble reading the monitor and is very stiff when she’s got to ad lib (have a real exchange).
I know. I said I almost felt bad for them. When they break out of it, I can happily go back to not liking them. But I would really like them to get a win today…
JROLL !
There is a reason Nancy was not re-signed wih ESPN she is very very bad in the studio she does ok hosting Yankees Magazine but beyond that it is a BIG step down from Lorenz
Jeter won’t hit the DL, though watch him get some days off every now and again with Betemit filling in. If they call up anyone I think they’ll call up Green over Gonzalez. I think they’ll give him the experience factor.
Is this Kansas game going to happen? Has the rain let up?
Don’t worry the Tigers will come out of it before we play them.
Gayle,
I agree. She does fine with Yankee Magazine. But I bet there are a lot of re-takes.
No problem, welcome to the blog Smilineyes
Steph-for the record i was kidding about Duncan at short. Seriously.
Heres another idea. Gonzalez cant hit a lick. If Jeter is out for awhile why not call up the shortstop we signed last year that was going to go to Rice. Not sure if its Angelini. What can it hurt. He can at least get a taste of the bigs early on without hurting us much.
watching the Mets today
If he’s not ready for the bigs and he does poorly, it could hurt him severely. It could hurt his confidence when he gets sent down, which in turn hurts his performance. That would be really rushing a kid. He’s good, but far from a polished product.
utley knocks in JROLL!!
Brandon: HILARIOUS!!
i hate the red sox…
I’m pretty sure Angelini is straight out of high school. That being said, I like the idea. Maybe Jesus Montero can catch that game too.
“If Jeter is out for awhile why not call up the shortstop we signed last year that was going to go to Rice. Not sure if its Angelini. What can it hurt. He can at least get a taste of the bigs early on without hurting us much.”
No, not a good ideal at all. Angellini is not at all ready to play in the big leagues. He might be 4 years away from the show if everything goes right. You don’t call up a player in Low Class A ball to the majors.
Fernando,
Not sure if you were being sarcastric but Arod wasnt that much older.
“Brian - ok, I admit it. I once rooted for the Red Sox. In the 1986 WS against the Mets. I was in my college bar, had too many to drink and was flirting with a really cute guy who was rooting for the Red Sox. My roommate yelled at me the next day (which was really really mean since, as I mentioned, I’d had too much to drink) and I’ve never done it again. Ah, I feel cleansed having confessed my sins”
Lori, Me too (not the flirting with the guy part). In 1986 the Mets were more annoying then the Red Sox. I sort of (very mildly) rooted for Boston. Until the 9th inning of Game 6, then I really enjoyed watching the Red Sox collapse.
they just played Rick Atsley’s “Never Gonna Let You Go”
there were a bit of boos
On another note.
If Sheets can prove this year he can stay healthy and has a good year. I wouldnt mind signing him for a shorter term and not go after C.C.
Clay - Thanks for sharing!
Can someone tell me is it that Dice is pitching good or does Detroits offense suck right now?
SOS27…
1) If Sheets stays healthy and has a good year. Somebody will sign him to a huge deal (probably minimum 4-5 years).
2) It should not be us. Ben Sheets is a much, much, much better version of Carl Pavano, but a version of Carl Pavano nonetheless.
Solid grammar/punctuation there from Gitmo. UGH.
wow, did Polanco just made his first error in over, like, 600 games?
From the “too funny” annals. I am blacked out of YES, so whent I found the ExtraInnings Yanks game I turned it on, only to find the broadcaster is - YES.
Go figure.
About the Sux game - when two last place teams face each other, one has to win…
Is there ANYONE else here who doesn’t worry about anything going on with the Yankees but has total faith and just enjoys the games? Please step forward and say so because feeling totally confident about the Yankees on this forum seems to be a lonely place!
Good luck with all the spculation …
this is GIRARDI’S Team now .. NOT Torre’s.
Green might make Torre’s team, but i don’t think he’d make Girardi’s
You can’t predict his game yet.
Sit tight and enjoy the show!
Also I don’t typically spell when “whent” especially with an edit feature. However I’m one of the majority in the world who use IE!
“Can someone tell me is it that Dice is pitching good or does Detroits offense suck right now?”
Right now Detroit is horrible.
Trisha…
I’m drinking the KoolAid as we speak.
The best way to view the Yankees is with a big picture view. A 162 game view. You’ll slit your wrists if you look at them game by game.
if betemit isn’t going to play SS here, he never should have made the roster ( which I originally argued for but later conceded the point)
So either he plays SS or cut him.
The comments around promoting single-a players (or double a even) aren’t deserving of a response.
Pinstriped Playa wow you read my mind! Welcome to Yankee nirvana!!! The water is beautiful.
Polanco made an error? Dang, Detroit has some bad karma o something.
Damon, nice eye.
why would you not throw a first pitch strike to damon? I’ve seen him not take a pitch twice.
3.71 team e.r.a. I know its earl but i cant remember the last time we had it that low. Throwing strikes does pay off.
Damon leads off with a walk
Cano has taken three pitches in a row. Break open the bubbly.
4 pitches taken in a row!
Gitmo, YAHOO! and thanks.
As someone who has always felt that pain is an unnatural state, slitting my wrists has never been an option. I couldn’t bring myself to worry unless something called mathematical elimination knocked on my door!
I love enjoying these games no matter what.
He should’ve taken 5.
Trisha - I think you’ll find this blog is full of Yankee fans, but all of whom secretly (or not so secretly) wish they were Yankee managers. The mistake many people make in reading these comments is thinking that the discussion and debate shows a lack of faith in the team. We all enjoy the game, but that doesn’t mean we accept everything blindly or that we don’t dream about the “perfect” team. But (save for the trolls) you won’t a find a more devoted, passionate pro-Yankee group out there!
In other words, this is way more than a “yes-man” type of blog!
Robbie really looked bad swinging at that. He K’s
Ugly strikeout by Cano. Long needs to work with him in the taking pitches drill again.
Rebecca, bad karma did you say? As someone who thinks about things like reaping what you sow in life, I can’t help think back to the postseason where Detroit put away the Yankees and then we found out that Mr. Rogers had a little pinetar help…
Bobby GIDP
saying sheets is pavano is ridiculous.
calm down w/ Robbie that was a good AB and Bannister threw a nasty changeup give Bannister credit on that
Let’s Go Phil =)
(Cano will make a great 3 hitter some day, but a number two, he is not.)
do we really need updates and posts every pitch? Get lives
Gathright with a single to lead it off
joey gathright really bugs me. he’s so pesky.
You can tell Posada’s arm has been bothering him.
pathetic throw…
Lori I know what you’re saying and I’ve been around managing-type posters all my posting life! I don’t do it, but I know it’s popular! I can discern those from the worrying to death types and I would say there is definitely at least a balance here.
I think we already have a perfect team (speaking of going with the party line hook, line and sinker!) It just takes a little while for things to coalesce.
You gotta get the runner on a pitchout no matter how fast he is…not a good play right there.
hmm, jorge? you ok?
Mike: and what exactly are you doing?
S.o.S.27,
I was being sarcastic, mainly because Angelini is not A-Rod. He’s good without a doubt, and getting some experience on the bench would be good for him, but playing in a game is a little over his head right now. Let him get out of Charleston before we throw him in with the big boys.
Runner on third and one down.
Boston Dave,
Im not a big fan of Betimet. Gonzales has a great glove but thats about it. I just thought maybe Angelini can come up for a few weeks and get a taste of the bigs. I know he’s no Arod. But Alex did start at 19 with Seattle. I wasnt saying to keep him up for good. Anyways. My bad for talking dumb fellas.
The Royals break on top. Back to playing catch-up.
Double brings in the run
hughes’ velocity is still down
Damn I had Teahan on my fantasy team a few eyars ago and cut him. Now he is becoming a hitting machine.
Is it me or does this ump have a massively small strike zone?
Sux just got another run.
Phil’s not throwing first pitch strikes like he was the other night…
Fernando,
Point taken.
thanks to those giving play by play. my last hour at work. it’s better than gameday.
“Is it me or does this ump have a massively small strike zone?”
Welcome to 2008 baseball - the year of the changing strike zones. No game I’ve seen this year has had a consistently sane strike zone. The Mets game had a tiny one earlier.
S.o.S.27,
I like the idea of having any of those kids hang with the team, its just getting them into a game that might be a little much. I think it was 2006 that Phil Hughes got to hang out with the big league club for some time. Nice gesture by the Yankees.
Massively small. Is that even possible or is it an oxymoron?
When is Guillen’s suspension supposed to start? Thursday?
Anyway, he pops out to short.
Finally Hughes is getting some breaking balls over, his first one led to an out by Guillen.
He doesn’t seem that locked in yet…
Jeff: By massively, I mean extremely
And my point is still valid.
Could have been worse. I expect the Yanks bats to pick up Hughes.
GO YANKEES!
Where is the K zone, anyway? Hughes got squeezed on the 1-2 inside pitch. Then the ump calls the same pitch a K to get end the inning.