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MLB, newspapers reach compromise

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 09, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

As some of you may know, Major League Baseball earlier this year tried to restrict the rights of what newspapers could put on their web sites. Their original plans were to severely limit the use of photographs and limit audio or video to 120 seconds. The conditions were going to be tied to the awarding of credentials to cover games.

Their plans were designed to increase the value of MLB.com.

A group of newspaper editors, including my boss, fought these restrictions and a compromise was struck.

There will be no limit on photographs or on the audio of press conferences (such as the manager’s pre-game or post-game sessions). That is good news for those of you who enjoy the clips that we post here.

Other interviews will be limited to two minutes, which isn’t a major problem. We will have to take the audio off our sites within 72 hours, which doesn’t strike me as an issue for too many readers.

With permission from an individual team, longer audio interviews (such as our reader Q&A sessions) would be allowed.

Obviously, I don’t believe there should be any restrictions on the media. The more information we can give to fans, the better. But the new frontier of the internet has created revenue streams that leagues, teams and newspapers are all trying to tap into.

MLB.com is one of baseball’s most valuable properties. But for discerning fans who want balanced coverage of their team, newspapers need to be allowed to do their jobs both in print and on line.

Hopefully this compromise will work for everybody.

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186 Responses to “MLB, newspapers reach compromise”

  1. Don Vito A. Bellamo April 9th, 2008 at 11:42 am

    another example of THE MAN trying to keep us down ;-)

  2. mel April 9th, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Well, Pete, thank goodness they couldn’t get to your cell phone photos.

    Too bad MLB couldn’t stop you from posting Springsteen content. :)

  3. wood is good April 9th, 2008 at 11:46 am

    One of my beefs with MLB.com is the fact streaming broadcasts from WCBS or WFAN don’t allow the ballgames to be heard. Very very annoying, as my building has poor radio reception.

  4. JBRO April 9th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    As long as the Blog lives…

  5. Brandon (supporting the new movement "Alex being Alex") April 9th, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Bud Selig sucks

  6. gayle April 9th, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Here is an interesting conundrum. YES Network has their own site which of course is owned by the Yankees so does this agreement then forbide them for having audio/video up on their site for longer than 72 hours?

    What exactly is the 72 hour window for? Is it specifically things like post game interviews or all interviews or are we talking about plays etc.

    I cannot imagine the Yankees are not going to allow their owned and operated site like yesnetwork.com to not have what they need to make it better.

  7. CB April 9th, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Network television made the NFL. Football is the perfect game for broadcast television.

    The internet is doing the same thing for baseball. Baseball is the perfect sport for the internet.

    It’s going to make for interesting dynamics in the future.

    Newspapers will be one area. But so will competition between teams.

    Why should the yankee’s share their internet revenues for streaming video and audio with other teams? Why should the sox? How many geographically dispersed fans do the san diego padres have?

    The yankee’s created their own television network. They couldn’t create the best and most extensive internet site in all of sports?

  8. gayle April 9th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    We are already seeing signs that the owners are going to have some interesting internal issues coming in the near future when it comes to online revenues. Looks at what the red Sox did in terms of second hand tickets. They set up their own system for ticket re-sale and will not be participating in the MLB Stubhub thing. They will direct everyone to their own resale site.

    I think many teams will look at some of these revenues as something they should be able to keep for their own and not have to share with the other teams.

  9. SJ44 April 9th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    CB,

    I agree. The internet may well be the future of MLB.

    I’m fascinated by all the layers to internet regulations. In a lot of ways, its really like the Wild West.

    Who really knows what’s best in terms of regulation.

    I do know though the more you give customers (in terms of coverage/options, etc) the more they are going to demand.

    Also, as the technology improves, the customers are going to desire the finest technology to receive their content.

    The question becomes, how much do they want to pay?

    I thought last years battle between MLB, DirecTV, and the cable companies re: the Extra Innings package was amazing.

    Here is a service in which less than 1% of Americans desired yet, those who desired it (like myself) voices were so strong, it forced MLB into a compromise with DirecTV and the cable companies to offer the games.

    It even got Congress (led by John Kerry) involved to broker the compromise.

    Amazing stuff when you think about it.

    I have a feeling the internet will be the next territorial frontier set for battle between all involved parties.

  10. RayBlay April 9th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    Okay this really sucks

  11. gayle April 9th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    CB if you notice the Yankees.com site is part of the MLB system. All the teams have the same set up in terms of design links, layout etc. It looks like MLBAAM takes care of all of these sites.

  12. Hideki Balboni April 9th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Major League Baseball is being ridiculously short sighted here. In a cheap effort to increase the value of its website, Major League Baseball would happily place all sorts of restrictions on the media, which ultimately would have the effect of reducing information available to ordinary fans of the game. Great idea! What next? Will fans be blocked from from attending games so that MLB can wring a few more dollars out of its web-based broadcasts? The executives who run the game are idiots.

  13. Peter April 9th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Pete: Is there a way that this can be protested by the general fan who wants to make sure that there is not a corner on the market of information? Can a petition be created, or is there a place that letters can be sent? What would you suggest?

  14. saucY April 9th, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    “With permission from an individual team, longer audio interviews (such as our reader Q&A sessions) would be allowed.”

    am i correct to assume that if you get permission from the Yankees, that you can pretty much do anything you were doing before?

  15. CB April 9th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Right now MLB.Com is almost like the collectively bargained deal that the NFL has with the networks.

    Everything is standardized – as Gayle said yankees.com is part of a single unified system for internet content – I’ve also noticed that. I don’t think the Yankees do a lot on their own in terms of their website.

    And more importantly revenues are shared.

    I can’t see that lasting.

    As SJ said, the demand on the part of fans keeps increasing the more you give them. With the internet there’s minimal fixed costs associated with delivering more diverse content.

    Baseball just creates a tremendous amount of content – 162 game schedule, extended playoff, the world series.

    But it doesn’t stop there – hot stove, spring training, the draft. All of these are only becoming more popular. A key part of that is the way fans are learning about different part of the game through the internet.

    Right now I’m working and listening o Jairo Heredia pitch his way out of a bases loaded jam in Charleston.

    I must check baseball-reference.com a few dozen times when during game.

    Baseball just lends itself to all of these things – so the experience of being a fan is changing.

    There are now so many new and different ways of looking at the game.

    That’s what the internet does – multiplies information sources and means for communicating (say Pete’s blog…).

    But baseball is ideally suited to take advantage of what the internet supports.

    Football became the dominant sport in the U.S. largely due to network television.

    It was an ideal marriage.

    I think that part of the surge in interest in baseball has been due to the way the internet supports being a fan – mlb.tv is a great example.

    I think that’s only going to continue to grow stronger.

  16. blondlobo April 9th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Being a journalist myself, this really gets my dander up. For one thing, I would think that if MLB really wanted fans to go to MLB.com, they would make it the best site possible. I enjoy MLB.com, but you know what? If I want in-depth coverage of the Yankees, I read other sources. Being informed often means reading coverage from a variety of sources, not just MLB.com. In an ideal, capitalistic society, competition only makes the best better. Restricting who has what and how long they can have it is ridiculous and only tells me that MLB fears MLB.com isn’t up to snuff with what coverage other media outlets are providing.

  17. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    the lawyer in me can’t help but think that it’s very interesting that mlb is able to restrict/regulate speech like this. not that it’s unconstitutional, just … interesting. baseball kind of operates outside the legal sphere in general, what with the antitrust provisions, player contract covenants and all.

  18. Yeah! April 9th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Another example of the rich getting richer.

  19. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    thats a good point, lobo. shouldnt mlb focus on making mlb.com better if it wants more traffic, instead of focusing on limiting the capacity of other websites?

    personally, i only use mlb.com, or any of the official team sites for that matter, to look at scores or standings quickly, and to get to gamedays.

  20. jennifer April 9th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    MLB won’t like to hear this. But mlb.com is the last place I look for info. In fact it never really occurs to me to look there. I no longer go on yankees.com

    This website is the first place I look every morning for breaking Yankee news.

  21. mel April 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    O/T here, but if you go to espn.com, there’s a great picture of Phil Mickelson with his 2 little girls in their caddy outfits at Augusta. It’s so sweet.

    Anyway, Phil looks, well, fantastic. His gut is gone and he looks like he’s down to a training bra.

    Also O/T, but does anyone else find the protests over the Olympic torch relay sad? They had to snuff the torch five times in France. I believe in free speech. I believe in human rights. But, I thought the Olympics was a time of peaceful truce.

  22. chaossolver April 9th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    as some one who came from china only six years ago, this whole display saddens me deeply. and i’m sorry to say, i feel that my (former) country is getting unfairly targeted… no one brought up the issue of colonization or human rights when the olmpics were held in the west; this is an absolutely shameful display and really makes me angry
    on a lighter side of things… o look, baltimore is going to win the series this year cuz they have a six game winning streak…
    hilarious…

  23. Patrick Bateman April 9th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    I’m a little annoyed by this whole fiasco Pete.

    You seem to be the only one who posts the pre and post game interviews with the manager and with the players. And you don’t post just little pieces of interviews, you post the entire interviews. MLB.com doesn’t offer any of these services. Kind of a blow to your blog and the work that your paper has put into it.

  24. Russell NY April 9th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    “The executives who run the game are idiots.”

    So are the umpires.

  25. mel April 9th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    MLB is an modern dinosaur. It’s a difficult task for them to deal with the modern world and yet keep the game’s traditions that’ve survived the last century. Slowly, but surely MLB will catch up. Replay on the bases would be good, but having a machine behind the plate to call balls & strikes wouldn’t be.

    Steroids ineptitude, claiming rights to stats to extort fantasy baseball, the Spiderman promotion marketing fiasco, early season scheduling mistakes, the Red Sox. All blights for MLB.

    But, when it comes down to it, MLB still delivers a great product. We have global access to video, audio, content, stats, player profiles. All at the tips of our fingers.

    It’s not perfect, but pretty close.

  26. holdstrong April 9th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    MLB is the prototypical, and stereotypical, evil corporation that cares about, in this order:

    1. Money
    2. Money
    3. Money
    4. Money
    5. The sport
    6. The fans

    Their insane blackout restrictions (I still can’t believe that I can not watch my team on Saturday afternoons even if I pay for Extra Innings or MLB.tv), the fiasco with the exclusive EI DirectTV deal, and then stuff like this… plus the billion other examples I am sure we could all come up with, are really just crazy.

    It is funny how they actually RESTRICT people from use of their product in order to increase the money in their pockets. It is absurd. But I guess that is what a Monopoly allows.

  27. jennifer April 9th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    So wait he can only post 2 minutes of Joe’s pregame/postgame interview?

  28. gayle April 9th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Jennifer no pre and post game interview can be posted and are exempt from the restrictions as they are considered press conferences

  29. Sean The Disabled Mess April 9th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    I wonder if this pertains to bloggers who aren’t part of any newspaper.

  30. SJ44 April 9th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    Remember, MLB is preparing to launch the Baseball Channel next year.

    Right now, their focus is getting the BC on basic cable systems (its already set to debut on DirecTV) than it is upgrading their website.

    Like the NFL Network, these specialized channels benefit in a huge way from escaping the digitial (or increased pay tier) on cable systems.

    I would imagine baseball is doing its best lobbying to make get their channel on basic systems.

    If they do, it will be a cash cow to the nth degree. It will also lead them to continuing to limit their content to other (ie: outside) outlets.

  31. george April 9th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    it’s sad that MLB is so nickel-and-dime greedy. photos, interviews, etc. – if MLB was run well, they’d realize this is all free publicity, which is what increases interest in the main drivers of revenue, tickets, TV, radio, and souvenirs/t-shirts, etc.

    it’s representative of the mentality that’s lead to so many unnecessary work stoppages. anyway, glad that there was some compromise

    it shows how great baseball is that a poorly run institution such as MLB can still rake in billions!
    thi

  32. Motown Yankees Fan April 9th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    Pete – will we still be able to get your podcasts? It sounds like the “other” interviews that are available for the 72 hour window maynot be podcastable. Or was that a loophole not dealt with.

    Pete – thanks for this information. It’s fascinating. And thanks to all the other posters here with some very interesting commentary. I don’t think there are many other places we could get this stuff.

    As to mlb.com: they need to come here to see how information hungry the fans are. I only go to yankees.com to get into gameday, or if I want to see a replay of an Alex homerun or some such tape. Their articles are no where near as good (or as entertaining) as the info her, at Bronx Banter, River Ave. Blues, NoMaas, It is High, and other sites.

  33. pat April 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Hearing interviews in their entirety has been an eye opener and something I would hate to see change. Sound bites are like headlines, they don’t tell the whole story. Hearing the interviews here has made me aware of some of the spin that writers use.

    The fact that Pete isn’t afraid to post the interviews has shown me that his newspaper writing is truly based on fact and he saves the spin for the blog.:smile:

  34. gayle April 9th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    SJ–

    If I recall part of the negotiations last year with the Extra Innings package was the inclusion of the Baseball Channel on the cable companies basic tier. I will go back and look but almost positive that Time Warner, Comcast etc have all signed on already

  35. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop (aka Joe) April 9th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    “MLB won’t like to hear this. But mlb.com is the last place I look for info. In fact it never really occurs to me to look there. I no longer go on yankees.com

    This website is the first place I look every morning for breaking Yankee news.”

    Me too. The Yankees site and mlb.com is so cookie cutter. I come here and prosportsdaily.com first thing in the morning.

  36. gayle April 9th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    SJ I was correct see below from the New York Times coverage of the deal last year about Extra Innings. IN Demand is the cable consortium with Time Warner,Comcast and Cox. Not sure if Cablevision is part of this or not.

    from the New York Times 4/5/2007

    The crucial part of the negotiations for baseball was InDemand’s agreement to carry the MLB Channel, which is to make its debut in 2009.

    Between the deals made with DirecTV and InDemand, baseball said the channel will have 40 million subscribers when it starts. “We believe we have a compelling product that our fans are passionate about,” Brosnan said.

    Robert D. Jacobson, InDemand’s president, said: “We’re very comfortable with the deal. We feel we were treated very fairly related to DirecTV.”

    The InDemand partnership received an equity stake of a little below 20 percent in the MLB Channel, which is about equal to DirecTV’s.

  37. Will April 9th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    I am glad a compromise was reached, but support MLB’s right to restrict access to it’s ocntent. The Media does not have an inherent right to cover a private entity, so it should respect the rules under which it is asked to operate. As the internet age expands, it is becoming more and more apparent that the media needs sports leagues more than sports leagues need the media.

  38. Brian (from PA) April 9th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    they should rethink the Saturday games deal they have with FOX if they’re so concerned with having control of their own content.

  39. mel April 9th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    I go to mlb.com to watch games (duh). I’ll go after games to the wrap up. I like how they have recap, box score, and video/audio in one spot. Their content is good, but more human interest/propoganda like. If I need to see what’s really happening, I come here. Even if Pete doesn’t have something on breaking news, the people here will post something.

    You have to wade through the panic posts, but you’ll usually get the real news here before espn will post it. Mlb.com takes awhile as well because they usually sanitize their content.

  40. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    I used to go to MLB.com/Yankees.com for most news, but over the last 2 seasons it’s gotten really bland. whoever describe it as “cookie cutter” hit the nail on the head. now i only go there to check the schedules/watch MLB.TV. i come here for most of the news. i mean everything important that goes on with the team, Pete posts in a timely fashion, so there’s really no need to go anywhere else.

  41. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Just thought some might be interested in these stats. Jason Lane has 3 homers in 6 games and is batting 300. Kei has a .90 era and has 13k’s in 10 innings. Gardner batting 364 in 3 games. I wonder if we have no spot in the coming months for Lane and he continues to tear it up. If he can get us something we need on the trading blocks?

    BTW both Tabata and Jackson are hitting under 200 so far.

  42. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    it would be pretty swell if Igawa could do in the majors what he does in the minors/did in japan.

  43. Hear Me Yawn April 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    What a facinating discussion. Yawn.

  44. mel April 9th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    SoS,

    We’re in some kind of time warp. Look at all the divisions, not the usual suspects. White Sox and Royals atop the Central. The Orioles have the best record and the Tigers are the only winless team.

    The law of averages will come into play and hopefully, the Yankees will be the cream that rises to the top.

  45. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Brian,
    I guess the difference in aaa,japan is hitters are less patient. I would not bring him up again. He did well last year in the minors. I say if he stays hott. Call up San Diego and see if they are still interested in him. Maybe get Kouzmanoff from them by adding to the package. Lets turn the page on him.

  46. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    whatever we can get out of him is fine with me.

  47. mel April 9th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Will,

    You brought up some good points. There’s a difference between freedom of speech and property rights.

    Kudos to you, Pete, for not loosing your cool about this. Collectively, you and the media are granted access not available to the average person. It’s not carte blanche but pretty close. The main thing is not the pictures you take or the audio you record. It’s the words that you hear and, in turn, deliver to us. We can’t thank you enough for being so accessible with your access.

  48. mel April 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    And if the damn edit function worked, I could fix my typo. That’s “losing”.

  49. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    mel,
    I was thinking yesterday that this is going to be the year that the wild card gets in with less than 90 wins. You dont see the its a given teams this year(rays,k.c.). Winning 2 of 3 against lesser teams will have to do. The White Sox look really good so far. With the addition of Cabrera and the guy from the A’s.I think they are going to end up in second ahead of Detroit and contending with Cleveland for first.The O’s wont be their by May. They have caught some breaks with the teams they have faced having their aces out.
    All in all its fun to watch all these teams not give away easy wins to our oppositions.

    BTW. Yankee fans should be a fan of 2 teams. Ours and anyone that plays Boston. I dont understand how people were rooting for them yesterday against the tigers. We’re not playing for wildcard folks.

  50. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    mel,
    I here Bynum will be playing his first game vs. S.A. this sunday. Coincidense? I think not. Ill be watching.

    Blazers?

  51. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    will, i see your point that the media doesn’t necessarily have the first amendment right to cover a private entity. i’m not sure i agree, would have to think about that. but even if you’re correct in that, i think it’s possible that baseball could be seen as a quasi-public entity for first amendment purposes. yes, it’s a private business (aka not part of the government) – but if we adjust libel/defamiation/slander laws depending on how much of a public figure the talked-about person is, i can definitely see the point in extending the media’s right to cover major league baseball past what it would normally be. also, baseball’s always been mixed up with government – the latest congressional hearings, for example, and the legal concessions baseball already gets.

    but i think what’s more interesting is the fact that mlb.com is focusing on limiting other websites’ ability to cover teams, instead of making its own content better and more popular. does it seem weird to anyone else that mlb is essentially telling papers to stop covering baseball so much? i thought that “no publicity is bad publicity”

  52. ANSKY April 9th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    If Baseball coverage is going towards the internet, Steph will no longer have to post what happened on every pitch.

  53. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    “With permission from an individual team, longer audio interviews (such as our reader Q&A sessions) would be allowed.”

    I dont see that being a problem for you Peter. Being that Cashman is a fan of yours and reads this blog regularly. Must be nice to be well connected.

  54. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Ansky,
    I must say its funny how Steph has become your pet pieve. What do you do with the Yankee fans that dont have mlb.tv and have to watch it on gameday(which is slow as hell). I dont have that problem just asking.

  55. mel April 9th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    SoS,

    Didn’t hear that. Good news if it’s true.

    And, “Ugh”. That’s all I gots to say.

  56. saucY April 9th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    mel: “Replay on the bases would be good, but having a machine behind the plate to call balls & strikes wouldn’t be. ”

    i disagree. i’m in favor of fully automating the strike zones. to me it’s the biggest flaw in the game.

  57. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    mel,
    We barely beat them the prior game by 7. Immagine how good the blazers are going to be next year with that 40 year old #1 pick rookie back from injury.

  58. mel April 9th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    SoS,

    WooHoo! The LA Sparks drafted Candace Parker. I wonder if she’ll get some minutes off the Lakers’ bench? haha.

    Seriously, is there any other sport besides women’s bastketball that drafts the day after the college championship?

  59. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Saucy,
    After yesterday that sounds like a great idea. If that doesnt work. Why not have the homeplate ump stand behind the pitcher and call the game. Maybe he would see what we see and not be blocked off by the catcher.

  60. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    mel,
    Can you say conspiracy. Big time player in a big city. Lisa Leslie, Lobo and now this.

  61. mel April 9th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    SoS,

    Bright Light, Big City!

    Seriously, in what other sport does your star take maternity leave and you get the #1 draft pick.

    Oh, wait, the NBA. Robinson laid and egg and it hatched Timmy Duncan.

  62. Yazman April 9th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Just to sum up — after the compromise agreement goes into effect, we can discuss weather, graduate studies, politics and Springsteen, but nothing about the Yankees.

    Correct?

  63. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    mel,
    lol.So the chicken came first. Like they say the rest is history.

    I am hoping that you guys get the #2 seed. Spurs take the #3 instead. Dont want to face Dallas or the lower especially Denver in the first round. May you guys win this Sunday and Hornets keep rolling.

  64. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Yazman,
    basketball
    football
    80′ movies
    best all time actors
    parachute pants
    lunch pails
    garbage pale kids
    best all time movies
    closet space
    best music
    clemens
    santana
    hgh
    best athlete

    No Yankee talk though.

  65. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    good for candace parker. i was sort of hoping stanford would win (i like it when academically strong schools go deep into ncaa championships), but can’t be disappointed with another well-deserved win for pat summitt.

    also, candace parker dislocated her shoulder in the elite eight game (getting into the final four), right? and she played anyway and then on into the finals? dayum.

  66. saucY April 9th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    “Why not have the homeplate ump stand behind the pitcher and call the game. Maybe he would see what we see and not be blocked off by the catcher.”

    and either moose’s era would suddenly plummet or we’d never see him last more than 3 innings due to ejections. ;)

  67. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Sos, if that’s all we can talk about, then:

    basketball – the sport i am tragically awful at
    football – 18 and oh no
    80′ movies – back to the future
    best all time actors – clark gable, susan sarandon
    parachute pants – too legit to quit
    lunch pails – remember when they still sold the metal ones
    garbage pale kids – i WAS a garbage pail kid.
    best all time movies – honestly? spaceballs.
    closet space – never enough
    best music – pandora.com, its amazing
    clemens – never heard of him
    santana – in the nl, good enough for me
    hgh – baseball’s icarus moment
    best athlete – running backs in general.

  68. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    because you need two umpires to be on the foul lines to judge fair/foul balls. also, how is an umpire supposed to see through a pitcher from behind the mound?

    i was a rec league umpire for my town’s softball league when i was in high school. we stood behind the mound, which is why im reminded of this. i umped second and third grade girls’ softball games. i am not exaggerating when i say it was the most horrible, stressful experience of my entire life. the girls were happy just to get out and run around with their friends. the dads were complete nutjobs. never again. never, never again. but at any rate, it was really hard to get over to the baselines in time to judge fair/foul balls, and we probably got a bunch of them wrong.

  69. Peter Rabbit April 9th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Any news on what the Yanks are going to do about Jeter and Posada? When do you think we’ll know? By the time Pete posts the lineups?

    Or are the Yanks waiting to hear back about Posada’s MRI? That shouldn’t take so long seeing how Jeter’s MRI was done and evaluated within a few hours…

  70. Russell NY April 9th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    I don’t see how automating a strike zone would work or would be viewed favorable by anyone in MLB. While I agree the umpires are terrible at calling games, having an automated strike zone brings baseball closer and closer to watching a video game lol

  71. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    Nicely put rb. What do you mean you were a garbage pale kid?

  72. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    sos, i was the grubbiest kid that ever lived. me and messes were like moths and flame, flies and honey.

  73. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    Russell,
    I think they need to go a step further and put sensors on the uniforms,balls and bases.Therefore if your tagged and your not on the base. Yourrrr out!

  74. gayle April 9th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    Usually i go by the premise of no news is GOOD news for some reason in this instance I am not quite sure why we have not heard anything at this point re Jorge’sMRI

  75. Vtube April 9th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

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  76. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    they’ll probably say something about Jorge’s MRI closer to game time.

    holy hell i hate vending machines. so hungry, i put a dollar in the machine to get a bag of chips, it falls in such a way that it gets caught on the bottom row of snacks. and i can’t reach in and get it because of the anti-theft device. it’s so wedged in that shaking the machine doesn’t help. i may as well have eaten my friggin dollar.

  77. defense matters April 9th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    doesn’t all this fly in the face of our first amendment right to freedom of the press

  78. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    rb,
    who would you compare yourself to? SNOTTY SCOTTY,UP CHUCK?

  79. saucY April 9th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    “sensors on the uniforms,balls and bases.”

    i like how you’re thinking, sos!

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  81. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    Brian,
    Freekin comedy!!You have two choices here.
    a.Put another dollar in and hope it knocks down the chips thats stuck.
    b.Eat that dollar that you were going to put in and pretend its those chips.

    Mind over matter.

  82. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    sos – whichever one of them could find a mud puddle in an operating room.

    gayle – i’m also getting a little nervous about how long it’s taking to announce po’s mri results. im imagining the following press conference in my head right now:

    [joe girardi and brian cashman sit down in front of a bank of microphones. they both look ten years older than they did yesterday]

    cash: ladies and gentlemen of the press, we have good news and bad news. the bad news is, jorge posada’s shoulder looks like it went through a meat grinder. his career is over.

    girardi: the good news is, i’d like to introduce our newest special instructor for spring training 2009! [claps wildly for posada].

    cashman: just as a reminder, ladies and gents, please don’t post more than two minutes of audio of any of this press conference online. now, any questions?

    ——————–

    i kid, i kid. i’m sure they’re just being cautious and looking at their options and long-term plans before they announce and make moves. but still – kind of nervewracking, huh?

  83. Doreen April 9th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Brian, that’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day! Well, except for pat’s “Derek Jeter is neither short nor does he stop, discuss.” :lol:

    Defense matters -

    Apparently, the right to earn money from your property trumps the right to freedom of the press or free speech. (And as I typed this, I realized I’m not really being facetious — it is a major issue.)

  84. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    SoS

    Last time it happened i examined which heavier items were in line with my stuck chips that i would consider eating. in this case it was a three musketeers bar. so my plan was to buy the three musketeers bar and have it fall into my chips and i would get both, but to my dismay i used my last dollar on the damn chips! i tried to convince the next two people to buy a 3 musketeers but neither of them did. when they got their snacks my chips remained stuck.

  85. Doreen April 9th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    rb15 -

    I’m having similar thoughts, and trying to push them out of my mind. :(

  86. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    saucy,
    If mlb wont do it. Lets partner up and open up a league of our own. If the XFL did it. So can we.I got my mortgage payment money for starters. How much money you got?

  87. Doreen April 9th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Brian -

    My advice to you is to bring your own chips from home! :) That was seriously funny.

  88. Brandon (supporting the new movement "Alex being Alex") April 9th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    “While (Johnny) Cueto was tearing up the Midwest League in 2006, the Blue Jays offered outfielder Frank Catalanotto for the smallish right hander. Cincinnati GM Wayne Krivsky, on the job only a few months, didn’t reject it out of hand simply because he was still getting acquainted with the Reds’ farm system. It took only a brief check with his minor league people to come up with an answer: That would be a definite no.

    Hilarious. We salute you, Mr. Riccardi. You saw a young GM take over a team and tried to fleece the pants off him before he learned about his own farm system. Nice fleece attempt, sir.

    (Hey, just for fun – Imagine if this fleece attempt was successful and the Jays landed the young phenom? Toronto would be boasting a rotation right now of Roy Halladay, Dustin McGowan, A.J. Burnett, Johnny Cueto and Shaun Marcum. Wow.)”

    we need to keep a close eye on Toronto :?

  89. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    “i tried to convince the next two people to buy a 3 musketeers but neither of them did.”

    Well yeah!! God Brian do i have to teach you everything. You dont ask them to buy a 3 musketeers bar(which i dont like). Just ask each one of them for fitty cent. Now go back ther and get your chips.

  90. youngtimer April 9th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Thanks for going to bat for us Pete (and his editor). When I saw that online outlets were only going to be allowed 7 photos per game I was aghast.

  91. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

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    best athlete- Jason Giambi, hands down. he’s a puma.

  92. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    I saw this post on one of my boston blogs (i live in boston, so i have my blogs that i read about things to do here, etc). i havent heard anything about it besides this post, but how awesome is it if it’s true?

    … Just before the Air Force fly-over, the hawk cruises over Fenway with
    what is obviously a large dead rat in its talons. I think the planes scared
    it and it was hard to see from the TV view, but the hawk came out of its
    swoop sans rat. Hence someone got said rat in his or her lap/beverage of
    choice in the stands. There was a mention of it on WBUR this morning so I
    know I was not hallucinating. …

  93. Jimmy 27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    Brian – i thought we already had a George Costanza posting here already………Good luck with your chips

  94. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    This just in: I went back to the machine and the guy who reloads it was there! i explained to him my chip debacle. he didn’t believe i was the one who bought them but he gave them to me anyway because they were obviously already paid for.

  95. pat April 9th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Brian

    For all that hassle, I hope they were at least BBQ flavored.

  96. Angel April 9th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    “I would imagine baseball is doing its best lobbying to make get their channel on basic systems.”

    Wasn’t that what the Direc TV/Cable Company – Extra Innings dispute was about? Getting the Baseball Channel on basic tiers on both Cable and Direc TV. Wasn’t that MLB using its muscle to essentially force them (the Cable companies) to carry the baseball channel on their basic tiers, as a condition of being able to offer Extra Innings to their subscribers, like DirecTV had already agreed to do?

  97. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Brian,
    Congrats!!
    You should have asked for the 3 musketeers for all the trouble.

  98. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    i just realized instead of telling you guys that i got my chips in the end, i should have said that i saw some other person eating the chips i bought and an argument over what chip is what ensued and i eventually wound up putting together a potato chip lineup…

    opportunities, opportunities…you cannot let them pass you by…

  99. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Speaking of chips. Why is it that when you open a bag of chips its only one third chips/two thirds air?

  100. Sigmund April 9th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Total and complete b.s., what MLB is trying to do to the media. In a perfect world, what you’d all do is not cover baseball AT ALL — none, nada, zip, nil, zero. Within months, when MLB realizes that fan intetest is way down, and revenue following, they’d be BEGGING you to record all you want, post it for however long, please, please, please. I really feel like you shoud NOT remove audio recordings, and see what happens. Challenge the authority of MLB. Do not cave in to their demands, or feel for a moment that you’ve done anything but lost much of your journalistic authority by “compromising.”

  101. Angel April 9th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    *still laughing over Brians chip story*

    I feel your pain, i’ve had that happen. What about when you put change into a vending machine and it mysteriously eats one of the coins and doesn’t register you put it in (usually a dime)

    Of course you’ve walked ages from your desk to get the damn thing, and you bought the exact change and no more with you.
    Argh!

  102. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    SoS

    It’s a scam. no actually they want a good amount of air in there so it is like “padding” so not all the chips get crushed. i think it’s total crap. Cheetos are pretty good for having most of the bag full though, rather than mostly air.

  103. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Brian,
    I dont mind eating more crums if it means more chips. Filler-up!!

  104. Angel April 9th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    So true! That the only chip product I will buy from our vending machine, when I rarely approach them. Because of the content scam factor of the other varieties of chips, especially Lays.

  105. Brian from PA April 9th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    well unforuntatley my battery is about to die, which sucks because i have another half hour until my next class and nothing to do with it without my computer. i’ll be back later, go Yankees! hope jeter and posada aren’t hurt too bad *knocks on wood*

  106. mel April 9th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    Sigmund,

    If you were an owner or part of MLB, you’d be doing the same. We get plenty of access and plenty of content. There are far more grievous injustices in the world.

    How about putting some passion into other issues. Like Tibet or Darfour?

  107. Doreen April 9th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Cheetos are mostly made of air to begin with!

  108. Andrea - anti-Bonds April 9th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Doreen: not the crunchy ones!

  109. Angel April 9th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    Haha Doreen, so that explains why they don’t need the air in the bag to pad them?

    I laughed when I saw why there is more air than chips in a in a bag explained.. air used as a type of bubble wrap so chips in a bag don’t get crushed.

    There are some very amusing posters on this blog.

  110. rb15 April 9th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    if you’re the same angel, what happened to the yankeefansunite forum? tried to log on a few days ago and it was gone!

  111. Angel April 9th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    Damn IE7 and its lack of friendliness towards the new edit function. :(

  112. S.o.S.27 April 9th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    “Cheetos are mostly made of air to begin with!”

    And messy. Give me some UN-PADDED Doritos over cheetos which you have to suck on your fingers afterwords because your too lazy to go wash em anyday.

  113. Angel April 9th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Yeah, its me. Its moved, RB. The server massively crashed or something.

    Its the same address, but on freeforums.org now, I think. Same name, though.

  114. Doreen April 9th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Doritos are dusty, too, but not as bad as cheetos.

    It’s a sad, sad commentary on my current state of mind (i.e., foggy) that I’m more interested in commenting on crushed potato chips (yummy!), cheetos (I prefer the crunchy ones), and fake cheese dust than the rather important topic introduced by our fearless leader, Pete. :lol:

  115. Angel April 9th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    lol, I consider myself in good company that I feel likewise. Somehow fake cheese dust makes me happier than what I fear might await me in the important baseball related topic above this one.

  116. Angel April 9th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    I pasted the link into my name temporarily, RB. Should be able to get there by clicking on my name in this post, if you want.

  117. murphydog April 9th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Ah yes… The First Amendment.

    The First Amendment, first and foremost, protects citizens against Government actions limiting speech, not the actions of private parties like MLB. (However, Congress and the Supreme Court have used the Interstate Commerce Clause of the US Constitution to open up old boy networking clubs to women and even NYC’s historic McSorley’s was forced to allow women in some years ago… but that’s another story).

    The First Amendment also allows for fairly broad freedom of expression, meaning, for example, that you cannot get arrested for making pornography – - with certain exceptions. You cannot, however, generally use the First Amendment to gain access to private property when the owner is taking steps to protect his or her interests in the property and keep access limited.

    The game broadcasts are private property which MLB carefully protects (“…no portion of which may be used without the express written consent of MLB). Your ticket to the game is merely a revocable “license,” by which the owners of the team give you limited rights to be at the game, beginning at a certain time and ending a certain time after the conclusion of the game, provided you do not violate any of the conditions listed on the back of your ticket, including sound or motion picture recording devices I think. MLB ball parks are in fact private places which open certain areas to the public under certain conditions.

    MLB issues (and can withdraw, revoke or suspend) press credentials to control who gets access to the players in the stadiums and thus limits the ability to record or otherwise capture and preserve for other use what players or team officials say while in the controlled areas.

    MLB does not, however, own the words or thoughts of a player. So, a journalist can always seek access to the player away from the park or at the park with the team’s permission, and avoid some of the tighter restrictions of the MLB regs. But beat writes want the players’ thoughts in the locker room right after the action so putting limits on this access is a real headache for the Pete Abes of the world.

    At least there was a compromise of sorts. These sands will continue to shift as the cable/direct tv market sorts out what value to assign to various things.

  118. Stan April 9th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    In a world where anything goes, everything will. The sports dollar is being stretched in every way imaginable and in such a way that the average fan will need to make a conscious decision for what takes precedent, a ticket package for X amount of games, or a TV package and value meals at fast food joints will be used more often than not as the common denominator.

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  120. Holdstrong April 9th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    MLB enjoys a monopoly recognized by the US Gov’t and as such it is (approrpiately) held to higher standards of business. This is why John Kerry was able to challenge the issue of the exclusive EI/DirectTV cotract.

    Let’s not act as if this is a private mom and pop corner store who is being hounded by big bad news reporters.

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