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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/10/soggy-night-soggy-offense/#comment-302162</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few hypotheses about what's going on with the Yankee's offense posted over at my blog. 

http://schteeve.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/its-the-offense-stupid/

Check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few hypotheses about what&#8217;s going on with the Yankee&#8217;s offense posted over at my blog. </p>
<p><a href="http://schteeve.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/its-the-offense-stupid/" rel="nofollow">http://schteeve.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/its-the-offense-stupid/</a></p>
<p>Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: DominicanYank</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/10/soggy-night-soggy-offense/#comment-301885</link>
		<dc:creator>DominicanYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that our hitters are just not having good at bats. We seem to always be hitting from behind in the count...letting good pitches go and swinging at balls out of the strike zone in pitchers counts. 

On the reverse side, our pitchers have been solid but we always seem to go three balls in the majority of the counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that our hitters are just not having good at bats. We seem to always be hitting from behind in the count&#8230;letting good pitches go and swinging at balls out of the strike zone in pitchers counts. </p>
<p>On the reverse side, our pitchers have been solid but we always seem to go three balls in the majority of the counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all Cashman's talk about building teams from the farm system, the 2008 Yankess are still a team weighed down by decisions to sign veterans past their prime. Damon isn't reaching base, and Giambi isn't protecting A-Rod. Abreu has the least power of just about any #3 hitter in the bigs. Throw in Jeter's woes and the top of the order is quite dysfunctional.

Bruney looked good. Still, the list of PYDNWIBS (Pitchers You Do Not Want In Big Spots) seems to be growing, not shrinking:

Farnsworth
Mussina
Kennedy (Moose Jr.)

Does anybody feel physical pain watching Kennedy pitch? It's like the guy's absolutely terrified of hitters putting bats to his pitches.

It's only a matter of time before Traber and Hawkins make that list. I'd put Hawkins there already. If Hughes finds his way on the list, we are in for an ugly season.

Those who have called the pitching good so far (this includes Girardi) are missing an important point. It's not about how many or how few runs you give up. Sure, the Yankee pitchers haven't given up a ton of runs, but they also haven't locked teams down when they needed to. Only Wang, Joba and Mo have done that for a total of two games. That's it.

Pitching well means pitching to win and the team isn't pitching to win nearly enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all Cashman&#8217;s talk about building teams from the farm system, the 2008 Yankess are still a team weighed down by decisions to sign veterans past their prime. Damon isn&#8217;t reaching base, and Giambi isn&#8217;t protecting A-Rod. Abreu has the least power of just about any #3 hitter in the bigs. Throw in Jeter&#8217;s woes and the top of the order is quite dysfunctional.</p>
<p>Bruney looked good. Still, the list of PYDNWIBS (Pitchers You Do Not Want In Big Spots) seems to be growing, not shrinking:</p>
<p>Farnsworth<br />
Mussina<br />
Kennedy (Moose Jr.)</p>
<p>Does anybody feel physical pain watching Kennedy pitch? It&#8217;s like the guy&#8217;s absolutely terrified of hitters putting bats to his pitches.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only a matter of time before Traber and Hawkins make that list. I&#8217;d put Hawkins there already. If Hughes finds his way on the list, we are in for an ugly season.</p>
<p>Those who have called the pitching good so far (this includes Girardi) are missing an important point. It&#8217;s not about how many or how few runs you give up. Sure, the Yankee pitchers haven&#8217;t given up a ton of runs, but they also haven&#8217;t locked teams down when they needed to. Only Wang, Joba and Mo have done that for a total of two games. That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>Pitching well means pitching to win and the team isn&#8217;t pitching to win nearly enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Kill-Schill(ing)</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/10/soggy-night-soggy-offense/#comment-301877</link>
		<dc:creator>Kill-Schill(ing)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) By the end of the season, Giambi, if healthy, will have a .400 OBP, a .250-.270 BA, 25+ HR's and close to 100 RBIs.  Don't worry about him.  He was in the midst of finding his stroke before the groin injury.  He'll recover it soon enough

2) Cano is Cano.  A great hitter, in spite of a defiant lack of plate discipline.  Every year I hope he develops it; every year he disappoints me.  As a consequence, he prolongs his own slumps by trying to hack his way out them.  Notice that Giambi, in contrast, at least walks when he's slumping.  Still Cano will hit well over .300 by the end of the year.  He just doesn't belong in the 2 hole, not right now anyway.    

3) Girardi should move Abreu in the 2 hole and either move Alex up to the third slot or put Matsui there, until Jeter returns.   

4) Betemit is what he is-- a utility player.  His shortcoming are only more pronounced at the moment because the Yankees aren't hitting and because there are two or more reserves sap the lineup at the moment with both Jeter and Posada on the bench.  Betemit may not get the clutch hit Cairo once did but he compensates with his power.    

5) The only player I worry about is Damon.  Not only did he start poorly last season, but his entire season was sub-par.  Which raises the question whether his skills have begun to decline.  I'm still betting Damon will be a productive player this year.  As long as Yankee fans don't expect him to equal the player he was for the Sux.  Samson Damon perished when King George cut off his hair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) By the end of the season, Giambi, if healthy, will have a .400 OBP, a .250-.270 BA, 25+ HR&#8217;s and close to 100 RBIs.  Don&#8217;t worry about him.  He was in the midst of finding his stroke before the groin injury.  He&#8217;ll recover it soon enough</p>
<p>2) Cano is Cano.  A great hitter, in spite of a defiant lack of plate discipline.  Every year I hope he develops it; every year he disappoints me.  As a consequence, he prolongs his own slumps by trying to hack his way out them.  Notice that Giambi, in contrast, at least walks when he&#8217;s slumping.  Still Cano will hit well over .300 by the end of the year.  He just doesn&#8217;t belong in the 2 hole, not right now anyway.    </p>
<p>3) Girardi should move Abreu in the 2 hole and either move Alex up to the third slot or put Matsui there, until Jeter returns.   </p>
<p>4) Betemit is what he is&#8212;a utility player.  His shortcoming are only more pronounced at the moment because the Yankees aren&#8217;t hitting and because there are two or more reserves sap the lineup at the moment with both Jeter and Posada on the bench.  Betemit may not get the clutch hit Cairo once did but he compensates with his power.    </p>
<p>5) The only player I worry about is Damon.  Not only did he start poorly last season, but his entire season was sub-par.  Which raises the question whether his skills have begun to decline.  I&#8217;m still betting Damon will be a productive player this year.  As long as Yankee fans don&#8217;t expect him to equal the player he was for the Sux.  Samson Damon perished when King George cut off his hair.</p>
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		<title>By: saucY</title>
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		<dc:creator>saucY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know it's hindsight, but i'm not sold on the way Girardi ran the pitching in last night's game. I think a lot of the heat he got from the Josh Johnson incident 2 years ago was evident in his cautiousness with Kennedy.

I think it was a blow to Kennedy's confidence to have to sit around and then show up in the 6th, behind by 2. 

Meanwhile, it may have even been a confidence boost to Grienke. As a starter, the guy knew he would be facing a collage of relief pitchers for the first few innings. 

Worst case scenario if Kennedy starts? A delay after the 1st or 2nd inning, causing him not to return and a collage of relief pitchers gets thru the remainder of the game. 

In the end, you need to score runs to win. But I still don't agree with how the pitching was run, even if it wasn't the sole cause of the loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know it&#8217;s hindsight, but i&#8217;m not sold on the way Girardi ran the pitching in last night&#8217;s game. I think a lot of the heat he got from the Josh Johnson incident 2 years ago was evident in his cautiousness with Kennedy.</p>
<p>I think it was a blow to Kennedy&#8217;s confidence to have to sit around and then show up in the 6th, behind by 2. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, it may have even been a confidence boost to Grienke. As a starter, the guy knew he would be facing a collage of relief pitchers for the first few innings. </p>
<p>Worst case scenario if Kennedy starts? A delay after the 1st or 2nd inning, causing him not to return and a collage of relief pitchers gets thru the remainder of the game. </p>
<p>In the end, you need to score runs to win. But I still don&#8217;t agree with how the pitching was run, even if it wasn&#8217;t the sole cause of the loss.</p>
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		<title>By: rover</title>
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		<dc:creator>rover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some guys handle miserable weather better than others, if you get five or six who don't handle it well,you get the yankees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some guys handle miserable weather better than others, if you get five or six who don&#8217;t handle it well,you get the yankees.</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I did think it was a complete blunder for Joe not to start Ian Kennedy last night. Joe and Trey Hillman were looking at the same weather report, and Trey kept his guy in. Now, some bullpen guys are spent for tonight. At least the damage was lessened by getting Kennedy back out there.

Bruney, Traber and, yes, Farnsworth, kept us in that ballgame, though. Again, our bats take too long to show up in the beginning of the season. Didnâ€™t we use to light up Grienke every time we saw him before? 

Our bats need to be ready on Day Oneâ€¦.."

I agreed with Girardi's move, and disagree with the Royals'. I would not be surprised if Greinke is absolutely horrible in his next outing (several walks and a couple HRs).

Also, this Greinke is not your old Greinke. He took a year off to deal with his depression/anxiety, was a bullpen guy then a starter last year. He ended last year with an ERA under 4. Not bad for an AL pitcher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I did think it was a complete blunder for Joe not to start Ian Kennedy last night. Joe and Trey Hillman were looking at the same weather report, and Trey kept his guy in. Now, some bullpen guys are spent for tonight. At least the damage was lessened by getting Kennedy back out there.</p>
<p>Bruney, Traber and, yes, Farnsworth, kept us in that ballgame, though. Again, our bats take too long to show up in the beginning of the season. Didnâ€™t we use to light up Grienke every time we saw him before? </p>
<p>Our bats need to be ready on Day Oneâ€¦..&#8221;</p>
<p>I agreed with Girardi&#8217;s move, and disagree with the Royals&#8217;. I would not be surprised if Greinke is absolutely horrible in his next outing (several walks and a couple HRs).</p>
<p>Also, this Greinke is not your old Greinke. He took a year off to deal with his depression/anxiety, was a bullpen guy then a starter last year. He ended last year with an ERA under 4. Not bad for an AL pitcher.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete's note about it being 19 seasons since the Yankees scored this few runs is telling.  This kind of lousy offensive performance from so many good hitters is a fluke.  11 for 66 with RISP is a fluke.  Flukes correct themselves over the span of the season.  We will see plenty of offense from this team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete&#8217;s note about it being 19 seasons since the Yankees scored this few runs is telling.  This kind of lousy offensive performance from so many good hitters is a fluke.  11 for 66 with RISP is a fluke.  Flukes correct themselves over the span of the season.  We will see plenty of offense from this team.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE Farnsworth....do the Yankees need a one inning pitcher? The track record is becoming clearer. Very dissapointing to the the fellow blow games with reasonable chances to win them...even if the scoring production is low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE Farnsworth&#8230;.do the Yankees need a one inning pitcher? The track record is becoming clearer. Very dissapointing to the the fellow blow games with reasonable chances to win them&#8230;even if the scoring production is low.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"So what if Farsworth hadnâ€™t given up the two runs? Would it have mattered? The offense scored zero runs. Zero."

At least someone gets it.  Thanks Elizabeth.  This was the same situation last season.  The Yankees would score 100 runs in 3 games, and then they would get 1-hit in each of the next 3.  You can't blame that on pitching.  

Yeah, the Yankees scored almost 1000 runs last season, but the runs were scored pretty lopsided.  It wasn't a continuous 6ish runs a game... it would be more like... 10 one game, 15 another, 16 another, and then 0, 1, 0.

It doesn't matter how great or terrible your pitching is, you can't win games if you don't score runs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So what if Farsworth hadnâ€™t given up the two runs? Would it have mattered? The offense scored zero runs. Zero.&#8221;</p>
<p>At least someone gets it.  Thanks Elizabeth.  This was the same situation last season.  The Yankees would score 100 runs in 3 games, and then they would get 1-hit in each of the next 3.  You can&#8217;t blame that on pitching.  </p>
<p>Yeah, the Yankees scored almost 1000 runs last season, but the runs were scored pretty lopsided.  It wasn&#8217;t a continuous 6ish runs a game&#8230; it would be more like&#8230; 10 one game, 15 another, 16 another, and then 0, 1, 0.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter how great or terrible your pitching is, you can&#8217;t win games if you don&#8217;t score runs.</p>
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