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	<title>Comments on: Game 11: Yankees at Red Sox</title>
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		<title>By: berniepaul&#38;tino</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/11/game-11-yankees-at-red-sox/comment-page-23/#comment-304805</link>
		<dc:creator>berniepaul&#38;tino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Molina is outstanding. Think where we&#039;d be with John Flaherty or Wil Nieves right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Molina is outstanding. Think where we&#8217;d be with John Flaherty or Wil Nieves right now.</p>
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		<title>By: RyanTseng@Taipei</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/11/game-11-yankees-at-red-sox/comment-page-23/#comment-304804</link>
		<dc:creator>RyanTseng@Taipei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jennifer: What makes our Silent Ace?
As a Taiwanese, I respect Wang&#039;s quietness and low profile. I would rather see Wang
keep developing his secondary pitch over
his secondary speech capability. How do you
like my point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jennifer: What makes our Silent Ace?<br />
As a Taiwanese, I respect Wang&#8217;s quietness and low profile. I would rather see Wang<br />
keep developing his secondary pitch over<br />
his secondary speech capability. How do you<br />
like my point?</p>
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		<title>By: berniepaul&#38;tino</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/11/game-11-yankees-at-red-sox/comment-page-23/#comment-304803</link>
		<dc:creator>berniepaul&#38;tino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the doubters, this game still wont convince them this guy who won more starts than anyone in MLB is our ace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the doubters, this game still wont convince them this guy who won more starts than anyone in MLB is our ace.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff in MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just back from the Sardine Can via the Green line &quot;T&quot; and a couple of drinks in the North End.  What an absolute gem by CMW.  I still hope to see Mo pitch (in person) someday, but I&#039;ll take this game any time.

Plenty of Yankee fans in Sec. 16 Box 35 tonight, also.  Nice to finally see a Yankee win -- prior to tonight I&#039;d seen them get pounded by the Brewers (ca. 1989), pounded by the Rockies in Denver, pounded by the Red Socks in NY in &#039;03, and beat at Fenway in April &#039;07.

The multiple calls of &quot;they STILL suck&quot; from people seeing my NYY hat on the way out were music to my ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just back from the Sardine Can via the Green line &#8220;T&#8221; and a couple of drinks in the North End.  What an absolute gem by CMW.  I still hope to see Mo pitch (in person) someday, but I&#8217;ll take this game any time.</p>
<p>Plenty of Yankee fans in Sec. 16 Box 35 tonight, also.  Nice to finally see a Yankee win &#8212; prior to tonight I&#8217;d seen them get pounded by the Brewers (ca. 1989), pounded by the Rockies in Denver, pounded by the Red Socks in NY in &#8216;03, and beat at Fenway in April &#8216;07.</p>
<p>The multiple calls of &#8220;they STILL suck&#8221; from people seeing my NYY hat on the way out were music to my ears.</p>
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		<title>By: YankeesTech</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankeesTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point I think this french dude will take Mark Prior over wang. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point I think this french dude will take Mark Prior over wang. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Much, Much Better Than Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Much, Much Better Than Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eat, drink and be merry.

For tomorrow, Mussina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eat, drink and be merry.</p>
<p>For tomorrow, Mussina.</p>
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		<title>By: French Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>French Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Hamels, I guess I just foam at the mouth when I see that he pitched over 180 Ip last year with a 4.12 K:Bb ratio, which is crazy awesome for a young pitcher like him.  The 3.39 ERA and 1.12 WHIP, considering his home ballpark, also impress the heck out of me.  I think he can get close to that again this season.  I&#039;m not as sold as Kazmir as I am on Hamels.  But that&#039;s mostly because I think Hamels is insanely awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Hamels, I guess I just foam at the mouth when I see that he pitched over 180 Ip last year with a 4.12 K:Bb ratio, which is crazy awesome for a young pitcher like him.  The 3.39 ERA and 1.12 WHIP, considering his home ballpark, also impress the heck out of me.  I think he can get close to that again this season.  I&#8217;m not as sold as Kazmir as I am on Hamels.  But that&#8217;s mostly because I think Hamels is insanely awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: French Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>French Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point again, GS.  I am also a bit worried about Oswalt&#039;s rapid decline in 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point again, GS.  I am also a bit worried about Oswalt&#8217;s rapid decline in 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: French Canadian</title>
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		<dc:creator>French Canadian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™d place Wang somewhere between 12-17 depending on your opinions and value of certain things. 20? Eh - not quite but you werenâ€™t actually counting the pitchers when you said thatâ€¦.&quot;


Thank you for that last statement as well.   I most certainly was not counting the pitchers when I said that.  It was just a guess.  

In fact, my original statement was &quot;there are around 20 pitchers in baseball who are probably better than him&quot;  

I didn&#039;t say exaclty 20.  I said &quot;around&quot; 20 and &quot;probably&quot; better.  20 is a nice round number.  Perhaps you guys would be happier if I said 17 and threw out Cain, Burnett, and Dice-K?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™d place Wang somewhere between 12-17 depending on your opinions and value of certain things. 20? Eh &#8211; not quite but you werenâ€™t actually counting the pitchers when you said thatâ€¦.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for that last statement as well.   I most certainly was not counting the pitchers when I said that.  It was just a guess.  </p>
<p>In fact, my original statement was &#8220;there are around 20 pitchers in baseball who are probably better than him&#8221;  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say exaclty 20.  I said &#8220;around&#8221; 20 and &#8220;probably&#8221; better.  20 is a nice round number.  Perhaps you guys would be happier if I said 17 and threw out Cain, Burnett, and Dice-K?</p>
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		<title>By: GS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See - I wouldn&#039;t take an Oswalt over a Wang this year.  This year&#039;s Wang over the Oswalt of two years ago?  That&#039;s another story.  He&#039;s fading - and fading fast.  When I said 12-17 - I took guys like Smoltz and added them into the &quot;take over wang&quot; list.  Halladay - he&#039;s one of my push guys.  The Stats suggest he&#039;s a better pitcher - but Wang is still developing and I would probably take Wang&#039;s potential this year over Halladay&#039;s known talent.  These are personal preference - just like organizations will ultimately have their preference.

I think Hamels is a year away.  Kazmir is Kazmir and, while he may put up great auxiliary numbers - I will take Wang with his GB% and developing arsenal over him.

I think you, ultimately, have a realistic assessment of Wang&#039;s place in the Majors though.  There are approximately 150 starting pitchers in MLB.  Being in the Top 20 of those 150 starting pitchers is a compliment.  It doesn&#039;t matter if he&#039;s 1 or 20.  People are just getting worked up because he pitched lights out tonight and they love their Yankees.  Can&#039;t blame them for that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t take an Oswalt over a Wang this year.  This year&#8217;s Wang over the Oswalt of two years ago?  That&#8217;s another story.  He&#8217;s fading &#8211; and fading fast.  When I said 12-17 &#8211; I took guys like Smoltz and added them into the &#8220;take over wang&#8221; list.  Halladay &#8211; he&#8217;s one of my push guys.  The Stats suggest he&#8217;s a better pitcher &#8211; but Wang is still developing and I would probably take Wang&#8217;s potential this year over Halladay&#8217;s known talent.  These are personal preference &#8211; just like organizations will ultimately have their preference.</p>
<p>I think Hamels is a year away.  Kazmir is Kazmir and, while he may put up great auxiliary numbers &#8211; I will take Wang with his GB% and developing arsenal over him.</p>
<p>I think you, ultimately, have a realistic assessment of Wang&#8217;s place in the Majors though.  There are approximately 150 starting pitchers in MLB.  Being in the Top 20 of those 150 starting pitchers is a compliment.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if he&#8217;s 1 or 20.  People are just getting worked up because he pitched lights out tonight and they love their Yankees.  Can&#8217;t blame them for that&#8230;.</p>
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