Game 20: Yankees at Orioles
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- April
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Giambi 1B
Cabrera CF
Moeller C
Pettitte LHP
Notes: It’s cloudy in Baltimore and there is rain in the area. But it’s dry here so far. … The Yankees are not taking BP today. … Moeller is 5 of 16 with three RBI and two extra-base hits since being called up.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 12:37 p.m.: It was pouring before but it has since stopped. The tarp is on the field at the moment but the skies are clear. They seem hopeful of starting on time.
Andy Pettitte vs. the Baltimore hitters.
Steve Trachsel vs. the Yankee hitters.
UPDATE, 2:02 p.m.: The players were given their official MLB identification cards today. They use them to get into stadiums. Obviously guys like Derek Jeter or A-Rod use theirs less than say Chad Moeller.
Phil Hughes was given his card and loved his photo so much that he was showing everybody.
UPDATE, 2:08 p.m.: The Yanks give us a packet of minor league box scores and statistics every day that I like to read through. A few things that stood out:
Dellin Betances is 3-0, 2.66 after winning last night for Charleston (5 2 0 0 5 5).
Carmen Angelini (.196/.324/.377) is scuffling.
Brad Suttle (.368/.429/.553) seems to have it figured out.
Jesus Montero (.338/.365/.500) will be there all season, Brian Cashman said. They want him to get a good solid year under his belt, work on catching and get up a bunch of confidence.
J.B. Cox and Mark Melancon are pitching out of the pen for Tampa. The focus for now is more on how they feel, not the results. Cox has thrown 4 innings and Melancon 10.2.
Trenton has an interesting team, especially the OF. Austin Jackson (.302/.429/.397) picked up from last season. Jose Tabata (.231, no HRs) isn’t hitting yet. Jackson is racing past him as a prospect.
Dan McCutchen (17.2 11 2 2 6 15) has been their best starter along with Chase Wright (3-1, 2.92). Of all their pitching prospects, he’s the guy I like best. I can see the Yankees turning him into a reliever who can help in the majors by late July. He’s got the stuff and the mentality.
UPDATE, 2:18 p.m.: Andy Pettitte is so reliable. Nine up and nine down. Now maybe the Yankees can give him a few runs to work with. Steve Trachsel isn’t this good.
UPDATE, 2:28 p.m.: Like I said, Steve Trachsel isn’t that good. I covered the Mets, I know. Big spot here for the Big G.
UPDATE, 2:42 p.m.: The Yankees should have scored more than two there. But with how well Andy is pitching, maybe it won’t matter. That’s 12 up and 12 down and one ball out of the infield. He has struck out four.
UPDATE, 2:58 p.m.: What a terrible way to lose a perfect game, on a broken-bat dribbler up the line. It’s all A-Rod’s fault for not playing in for the broken-bat dribbler.
12 more outs to get. Six by Andy, three from Joba, three from Mo? The Yankees need a win any way they can today. They haven’t lost four straight since last May.
UPDATE, 3:13 p.m.: No word yet on why A-Rod had to leave the game.
UPDATE, 3:18 p.m.: Wilson Betemit for Doug Mientkiewicz? Anybody? Bueller? Anybody?
Giambi is 5 for 45 this season. If you take away his 3 for 3 against Mike Timlin, he is 2 for 42 (.048) with 0 homers and 2 RBI. Um …
* * * * A-ROD INJURY UPDATE * * * *
UPDATE, 3:33 p.m.: A-Rod has a strained right quad and is officially day to day. That’s the same injury Derek Jeter had that kept him out for a week. “Day to day” in Yankees-speak is at least four or five days.
UPDATE, 3:38 p.m.: I know Erik Bedard is good. But Adam Jones is a heck of a center fielder. That trade could work out very well for the Orioles. … Meanwhile, Kevin Millar could roll out of bed on Christmas morning and hit against the Yankees.
UPDATE 3:49 p.m.: It’s raining now at Camden Yards and the grounds crew is poised behind the tarp. Hopefully they can just play through it with two innings to go. The Yankees will be furious if there’s a rain delay with an off day coming up tomorrow.
UPDATE, 3:55 p.m.: What a job by Andy Pettitte. 7 shutout innings, 4 hits, 0 walks, 5 strikeouts. 89 pitches, 59 strikes.
UPDATE, 3:59 p.m.: The game is being delayed by rain.
UPDATE, 4:17 p.m.: The tarp is coming off. The game is scheduled to start up in about 15 minutes.
UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: Brian Bruney warming up for the Yankees. Guess that is it for Joba.
UPDATE, 4:50 p.m.: Chad Moeller is 7 for 20 since he joined the Yankees with three extra-base hits. The Nationals liked Wil Nieves more in spring training. Go figure baseball.
UPDATE, 4:56 p.m.: It’s raining again and Dave Trembley is changing pitchers in the ninth inning down 7-1. Way to go, Dave.
UPDATE, 5:01 p.m.: Excellent work, Dave. Now there’s another rain delay. Meanwhile I have a flight at 8 p.m.
UPDATE, 5:20 p.m.: Tarp is off and they’re cleaning up the field. There are about 1,000 people left in the park.
UPDATE, 5:38 p.m.: We’re back underway with Mo on the mound.
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Peter Abraham
Can we get a real leadoff hitter, please?
Come on Yankees! We are NOT getting swept by the Orioles.
Let’s go Yankees!
Can we win a game? And ya know..score some runs?
Man, a game where we’d score like 20 runs would be so cool right now.
Yikes! Giambi and Cano back to back!
Strange days when you look at a lineup with Damon and Giambi in it and you’re worried.
How long before Girardi starts “cutting heads”?
If they don’t hit today, they can always revert back to blaming the weather again.
Hopefully the Yanks will break out today. It helps to have Pettitte on the mound.
Seems like Alex’s new baby is being very cooperative. Hopefully she is waiting until tomorrow’s off day to arrive!
Interesting. Both Posada and Molina play last night and Moeller plays today.
Tells me Posada is still not ready to catch.
You wonder how long they can carry 3 catchers on the roster. That really hurts roster flexibility.
Fran: If that’s the case, I guess we can call her a true yankee!
giambi has gotten on my nerves because he NEVER uses the shift to his advantage. there are certain game sitations that would make that a no-brainer.
thursday night being the perfect example. Yanks down by 4, Giambi leads off the 9th against Papelbon, and the Red Sox have the shift on – giving it to him. obviously the odds for helping the team win are best if you take what Boston’s giving – if he swings, he’s got a 70-80% chance of an out, but if he bunts anywhere to the right of Papelbon, he’s on first w/no outs, it’s a gimme. so of course Giambi pulls a grounder right into the shift.
Girardi should have ordered him to – since Giambi is apparently too selfish or whatever to ever think of this himself, i think i’ve seen him do it once.
SJ: Well, if Giambi continues to slump, what about playing Posada at first? I know they won’t keep both Molina and Moeller, but Molina and Moeller have done more for our offense than, say, everyone else combined.
Like I sai, I kno they won’t do it, but part of me wishes they would.
So – are we finally seeing a repeat line-up this season?
great, damon is still leading off and giambi is still playing first. melk needs to take damons spot and shelley at 1b
Roster flexibility? There is no roster flexibility. Right now this is one of the most poorly conceived rosters I’ve seen in quite some time (flexibility-wise).
Rebecca – Just like her dad!
While we’re at it, can we get a REAL first baseman, please?
I know the Melkman isn’t an ideal leadoff candidate, but at least he isn’t hitting(if you want to call it that) below the Mendoza line.
right now, only guys with M names are hitting…
Melky, Moeller, Molina, Matsui…
Rebecca,
I don’t like Posada at first. He’s a catcher, not a first baseman and he cost them a run last night on the hit by Fahay.
Nothing against Jorge but, you can’t keep playing guys out of position. Its not fair to the player or the team.
For reasons not known to me, the Yankees seem to think first base is a throwaway position. It isn’t.
They need to get a real first baseman. A guy who can field the position and get some AB’s.
They need to put Jorge on the DL until he can throw again. If its 15 days or 15 weeks, you gotta do it.
You can’t have a roster this inflexible. Its really hurting them.
I think Melky is a fine leadoff guy. He works the count and seems to come up with a big at bat when you need it.
Amen to the REAL first baseman sentiment as well.
I hear the Pirates are interested in Betemit…could a Minky return be in the works?
Hey Peter, with the off day tomorrow, do you see Girardi pushing Mussina back and having Hughes start on regular rest Wednesday? That way you’d have a rotation of Wang, Hughes, Mussina, Kennedy and Pettitte, and you’d separate Hughes and Kennnedy which I remember you mentioned that the Yankees wanted to do that. Sorry if this is hard to read, I should have done a better job wording it
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Damon did what leadoff hitters are supposed to do last night- he got on base with 2 walks. He didn’t help once he got there but he did get on base.
Oh my goodness, if we can get Minky back for Betemit that will be terrific.
Hey SJ,
what is your take on Kyle Anson? He is smashing the ball at Tampa and the Yanks seem to have a lot of talented young catching with him, Montero and Romine all tearing the cover off the ball.
Frank Thomas was just released by the Blue Jays.
-dennis
It’s definitely not too early to start looking into some roster moves. I don’t want to see another Yankee team have to scramble to get back into the race only to end up out of gas in the end (that’s if they can even get to the playoffs).
Where do you start though? The obvious choices are Gardner and Duncan…at least for some energy.
The Yankees do need to stop acting like anyone can play firstbase…because that’s obviously not the case.
I think the front office needs to stop believing the hype every year. This 1,000 run nonsense has to stop. How about just scoring enough to win.
Yeah, that’s it. Absolutely.
I mean, it’s the easiest thing in the world to not just lay down a bunt, but to bunt a fastball. Especially a fastball by that schlub Papelbon. And it’s even easier to make sure that bunt isn’t popped up or dropped in front of the plate or to the right side, but to the left side, past the mound. Easy as pie.
Meanwhile, Frank Thomas was just released.
I don’t agree with this line-up. Giambi and Damon need to stay on the bench
Dennis: Serious?
Does Ensberg count as a real first baseman?
gotta shower before the game, back soon.
Rebecca.
Yes. Just having a cup a coffee watching Sports Center and it came on as breaking news.
-dennis
Thomas released…where did you hear this? If that’s the case that’s a ballsy move by the Blue Jays. The Yankees should take note and release Giambi. Kudos to the Jays if this is true. You can’t be beholden to someone’s past.
wow – I wonder why, isn’t it a little early in the season to be giving up on him? Or, has he just been that bad/is there something we don’t know…
OUCH !!!!!!!!!!
Damon and Giambi in the lineup ? Exactly what will it take to realize these 2 frauds have no business on the field. This is the nearest thing to telling the Orioles to get out the brooms. Andy will get nada for run support and meanwhile Shelley and Gardner patiently wait at AAA to be real contributors.
Girardi hinted about changes on the day off Monday. They could have been made sooner.
Thomas was complaining in the paper yesterday about not being in the line-up and Toronto trying to limit his at bats so incentive clauses didn’t kick in. Releasing him would be the ultimate way to limit at bats.
He complained to the press on being benched the other day. 24 hours later the Blue Jays released him. He had been woeful to start the season. Except for the slam he hit off Delcarmen.
-dennis
“Yikes! Giambi and Cano back to back!”
And belly to belly!
-J. Sterling
Frank Thomas getting released is what I am talking about vis a vie Giambi this morning.
The Blue Jays are looking at Thomas the same way I am looking at Giambi.
Cut through the name and look at the production. If it isn’t there and you don’t think its coming back, April or not, you make a move.
Last year, the Yankees were reactive to their situation. This year, I want them to be proactive.
That’s why I hope the day off Monday brings more than just a day of rest.
The roster is a mess. It needs to be cleaned up ASAP and if it ruffles some feathers or hurts some feelings, so be it.
Who thinks Thomas will end up in Tampa?
There is a poll on the Daily News website:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/index.html
Should #21 be retired? Please be sensible and vote NO. Jeter, Rivera, and (likely) Torre will represent that team in Monument Park.
I’ve been reading over the past couple of days about bringing up Brett Gardner, Shelley, and maybe bringing back Minky (according to SJ). You can easily make cases for all of these moves, as many have been.
The catch comes in making space in the 25-man roster.
Once Shelley has cleared the time requirement before he can be recalled (How many more days?), who do you move out? I believe Chad Moeller was the one who replaced him, but with Posada’s injury status, do you lose a catcher who’s been an asset? Would he even clears waivers?
You can say to sit down Damon and Giambi, but how do you clear roster space to bring up Brett Gardner? Do you send down Alberto Gonzalez? He may be a better infield option instead of Betemint, who’s on the DL.
As for bringing back Minky (SJ44’s suggestion), I think it definitely has merit, and Minky could be part of the rumored Betemint-to-Pittsburgh deal (once Betemint can come off the DL). If you want help now, then perhaps Morgan Ensberg for Minky (Pitt reportedly wants a 3B); that would at least clear a roster spot for Doug, though Ensberg might be a better hitter, and can also play 3rd.
Roster flexibility is the problem for Cash, as we’ve said in the past, in being tied to Damon and Giambi for money and years. It’s one thing to talk about trading them, but with their contracts and lack of performance this year it is quite another thing to actually do it. The realities of dealing with the 25-man roster may be one of the reasons why they’re sticking with Damon and Giambi for right now, and hoping that they pull through. If they don’t, there will be tough decisions that will be made.
I think Cash is going to be racking up the cell phone minutes in the days ahead as he tries to sort this all out. But I agree, I don’t think either Cash or Joe will tolerate this funk for much longer.
21 shouldn’t be retired, but it shouldn’t be worn by a player until Jeter, Rivera, Posada and Pettitte are gone, removing the last links to the 90s teams. And when they do give it out, they should give it out to a prospect they have high expectations for (like Cano, Hughes, Kennedy or Joba — not them, just players like them), so it’s an honored number.
Giving it to LaTroy Hawkins feels like they’re treating it like “just another number”, even though his reasons for wearing it were admirable. 21 and 51 (if they don’t retire it), should be at a level below retirement — a number that it’s an honor to wear.
Just my opinion.
I hope the drastic roster moves do come Monday, but I just don’t see it. Cashman refuses to cut bait on these big contracts…why, I don’t know.
Really, they should move Farnsworth, cut Giambi, see if there’s any takers for Damon and Mussina and start really going with the youth movement.
As a fan I’m fine if they’re losing young. To lose with what they’re putting out there though…it’s embarrassing.
â€send a message that dog play will not be tolerated.â€
girardi will not put up for long with mailing it in. it’s not in his nature. the next few weeks will be interesting in the same way waiting for fireworks to begin is interesting.
glad there is an afternoon game with pettitte pitching to get rid the hangover of a yankee loss and a red sox win which is no way to start off a sunday morning.
I just read above that the Jays have cut Frank Thomas. That’s a pretty big decision, given the money he is owed and the possibility that he may still turn it around.
You can do the same thing with Giambi, and decide to eat the remainder of his deal, but you need to be secure with your decision that he really is done, and whomever you bring in (say Shelley and Minky) will be be an improvement. Otherwise it’s not only wasted money, but a bad baseball move.
All I know is that Shelley Duncan is destroying triple a ball right now and Gardner is batting .353. There’s also a 25 year old pitcher in Tampa that’s totally dominating A ball and he’s Eric Hacker. He pitched 6 scoreless innings yesterday and only gave up 1 hit. His era is at 1.04 after 4 games.
Mr. Exceptional – I think Moose has a no-trade clause in his contract, and I can’t see him giving it up. I could be wrong. Another example of roster inflexibility.
Sean,
You said it right there…25 yr old in High A…I know he has been awesome, but he is 25 in high A
anyone have a link of proof that Frank Thomas was released?
Sign the Big Hurt right now.
I would say yankees should go after Thomas…but we don’t need a DH
Here’s a link about Thomas- he was released..
http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=234740&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_mlb
Yeah Moose is a 10/5 guy, but with his pride if he was told to sit…he might just accept a trade. He could probably help the Braves out for instance…or any number of NL teams. The possibilities are there, Cashman just has to investigate.
I’m not seeing any corroborating evidence on the Thomas thing, which makes me think that perhaps the information was reported on ESPN in error.
MLB.com
“if he swings, he’s got a 70-80% chance of an out, but if he bunts anywhere to the right of Papelbon, he’s on first w/no outs, it’s a gimme. so of course Giambi pulls a grounder right into the shift.”
Have you ever seen Giambi run before? I can almost guarantee that if he bunts he will get thrown out 99.9% of the time.
Forget signing Frank Thomas. Why add to your roster inflexibility?
DFA Giambi bring up Duncan
Never mind
I miss the editing feature on the comments.
The Jays eat 8 million for releasing Thomas. Yankees would have to eat about 26 million for releasing Giambi.
For 26 million, you have to be darn sure he can’t be even soemwhat productive even if it is in a diminished role.
I just hope Thomas doesn’t go to the Sox or someone. Maybe Indians would be a good fit for him.
Larry.
Link is above in SA’s post.
-dennis
Please cut Giambi as he can’t get around on a fastball anymore!
Please bench and try and trade Damon as he plain sucks and bring up Gardner who has and uncanny to score runs!
Please trade Farnsworth and Hawkins and Britton and Mussina asap!
If this team is going to lose let it lose with others and with out has beens.
The Yankees need a real first baseman. I don’t know why they didn’t keep Mientkiewicz for his defense. I do know that Giambi is NOT a first baseman anymore.
Carrying 3 catchers is also hurting the team. Posada says he is ready to go back behind the plate; the Yanks don’t think so. He should have been put on the DL until he can catch. By using him as the DH, he takes up a spot from one of the outfielders. This means a rotating line-up and the inability to get any kind of rhythm going at the plate. It also means using Matsui in the outfield when his best position is DH.
If the Blue Jays can give away 8 million, I think we can give away 11 million and throw way Moose.
Red Sox: Ortiz
Indians: Hafner
He’s not going to either of those teams.
How much money have the Yankees eaten in the last 3 years regarding Giambi. Man up and cut him loose. Let him latch on with another team and prove us wrong. The contract was a mistake, he no longer helps the team, it’s time to except it.
I posted this late on the previous thread:
In spite of all the issues with the team, it is too early to give up.
I sincerely believe that Hughes will turn it around. In fact he showed promise in the last start. We saw what he can do in the playoffs with the Indians. As the weather is getting better, he will be OK.
IPK should get another chance. Hopefully, he will pitch like he did end of last year. Girardi had lit the fire in his rear e*nd and hopefully he got the message. I agree with Girardi, getting hit and bombed is one thing and nibbling and walking people all the time another thing that is unacceptable.
Regarding Damon and Giambi, they will turn it around, if not, by mid-may they will be ridinjg the bench and Shelly and Brett will be the regulars.
Last year, the situation was worse. Many people here gave up on the team too ealry. Around June, I asked every one on the blog to state clearly what they believed the channces of the team making to the post season. Surprizingly, inspite of all the negativism, 80% said the team would make it to the playoffs, some headging a little bit. And the team did make the playoffs.
I beleve this team is too good and there is too much time left. There will be changes along the way. I believe that we not only make the playoffs, we will win the division. This is my prediction, let us see what happens.
The key is there will be changes along the way, mostly internal options, to make the team better.
You all remember John Marzano? Apparently he had a heart attack and fell down a flight of stairs and died…
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080419&content_id=2552943&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Larry, my hero, always there to answer my dumb questions.
Time to move Damon, Betimet, Giambi, Moose to Boston.
“Regarding Damon and Giambi, they will turn it around, if not, by mid-may they will be ridinjg the bench and Shelly and Brett will be the regulars.”
are you saying that Gardner will be ready for majors?
Oh my. How sad.
‘Have you ever seen Giambi run before? ”
not only does he not run, if he tried to bunt ,he’s as likely to foul it off his noggin .
giambi in his oakland days went to left center a lot. that’s what i’d like to see.
I do nto think Giambi should be released.
He should be sent to the bench and he will be a good PH from the left side.
Then both Shelly and Ensberg can not be on the team because of roster space.
BBFan–I agree completely, but I think there’s more likelihood that Damon gets going than Giambi.
“are you saying that Gardner will be ready for majors?”
Yes. You will not know for sure until he is given the chance.
If the Tigers could put Sheffield in LF, Thomas would be a perfect fit there.
Baltimore and Tampa Bay could sign him, even though they’re not really going to compete. They still might do it. Seattle looks like a really good fit, and it would put them right back into the postseason mix, IMO.
I’d love to see him in NY, but he’s not that good a fit, unless they bench Giambi and put Damon at first.
“How much money have the Yankees eaten in the last 3 years regarding Giambi.”
Last three years? In 05 and 06 he was a top ten offensive player. Look at his numbers during those two years. I’m not saying that he’ll go back to being that guy this year. I’m just saying that he put up great production in 2 out of the last 3 years.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/giambja01.shtml
What happened to all the Brett Gardner detractors? whozat, et. al. I said it before, I’ll say it again. When Gardner is up it is going to be very interesting to see what his skill set is going to do for Jeter, Abreu, and Arod.
I try to be as sensible as possible with my comments, but Damon is done. Giambi is done. I’m sure Damon will have a 4-4 day every few weeks and Giambi will have a 2 HR day before the year is out, but they’re done.
What can we do about it? Nothing. We’re stuck with Giambi’s 21 million until we can buy out the option in November, and we have to hope some GM bumped their head in the shower and will take Damon’s remaining 13 million in December.
“giambi in his oakland days went to left center a lot. that’s what i’d like to see.”
Okay, but this is much different than him trying to bunt for base hits.
Alfred.
While your overwhelming generosity is apreciated, the Red Sox will respectfully decline. Theo extended my authority limits to make this quick decision….
-dennis
Randy l.
Missed the first part of your response. I completely agree with you about his bunting skills.
Giambi needs to be released because much like Torre, Girardi can not resist the temptation to use him, believing he will turn it around.
It is 11:30 on a Sunday morning and the DFA calls are already out? Calm down, everyone.
Neither Giambi nor Damon is getting DFA’d. Not on April 20th. Until they’ve had 100 ABs at the very least before Girardi makes a more permanent change than sitting them once or twice per week.
Then, only after they couldn’t adjust to bench roles, would Cashman make a move.
Gardner hasn’t gotten even 100 ABs at the AAA level.
This is a professional organization, not a video game. Players aren’t dropped like the majority of you want them to.
Yes, changes need to be made when you have two catchers that can’t catch taking up roster spots. But unless the DL Posada (retroactively), not much can be done.
What’s up with Posada? He should be catching by now.
“If the Blue Jays can give away 8 million, I think we can give away 11 million and throw way Moose.”
With Kennedy giving 2 inning starts there’s no way they can throw Moose away right now.
“Giambi needs to be released because much like Torre, Girardi can not resist the temptation to use him, believing he will turn it around.”
Well, in Torre’s defense in 05 when Giambi was struggling regularly Torre’s patience with him was rewarded in the end. Not saying Girardi will be rewarded but you never know.
Like this spot for Pettitte today. While he’s no ace, he does tend to come up aces in situations when the Yankees need him to. No such thing as a big game in April, but the Yanks need him here and history suggest he’ll answer the bell.
There’s a thunderstorm here right now. Hopefully it’ll pass by gametime.
According to mlb.com article, Posada said he’s ready to catch. Girardi says he isn’t. Hillarity likely to ensue unless there is a meeting of the minds there soon.
Posada can’t be DL retroactively because he has played even if it hasn’t been at catcher.
Here is the problem with quoting stats on players, especially minor league players.
You have to bring context to them.
Brett Gardner for example. Yes, he has a .674 OPS last year. Guess what? Its 1.001 this year.
Small sample size? Yes. But, ask yourself this. Since the first game of ST until right now, who has played better baseball, Brett Gardner or Johnny Damon? Its Gardner in a landslide.
Folks forget, Damon hit like this in ST. Gardner may be the most improved player in the Yankees system so far this year.
Another way to look at it……If each guy was a stock, which one would you buy for future investment?
Same for Duncan vs. the Jason Giambi we see now.
Sometimes, the future is now. Sometimes, you have to make drastic moves in order to jump start your team.
The Yankees did it in 2005 with Wang and Cano, 2006 with Melky and 2007 with Joba.
Could it be too early to make such drastic moves? Sure, I can see that side of the argument. I really can.
I can also see what the Blue Jays did today and applaud the fact they aren’t taking any BS from veteran players. If you can’t perform, you are gone. Eat the money and move on.
That’s my entire point about Giambi. At this point, the reward does not outweigh the risk with him. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
The ONLY reason I wouldn’t waive Damon right now is because he has another year on his deal. You can’t waive him but, you can sure as hell sit him if he doesn’t get his head out of his butt.
His performance, or lack of it, ticked me off more than Kennedy’s performance last night and I was not happy with what I saw from Kennedy.
This is just me and I am an admitted old schooler, I HATE Damon laughing on the bench in the 9th inning of a mailed in game. That stuff drives me nuts. Especially with the way he played last night. Not the type of visual I enjoy seeing in that situation.
Just guessing here but, I’m sure that doesn’t make Girardi happy either.
The team lacks energy. Young players give a team energy.
If you go to Gardner and Duncan in the next few weeks and it doesn’t work out, you still have time to do something else.
That’s the beauty of the length of the baseball season. It gives you the chance to experiment. Sometimes by experimenting you fall into something good.
I just don’t want them sitting on their hands for as long as they did last year.
All I am asking is for them to be more proactive in addressing the issues on the team than they were last year.
I think there is a decent chance that Damon retires after the season if he remains ineffective. Apparently last year when he left the team during spring training for personal reasons he was considering hanging it up.
It looks to me like he knows he has lost his skills but also his fire – maybe he’ll perk when he starts hitting some.
Frank Thomas has been venting his frustrations in public for awhile now. Both his GM and team owners got tired of hearing it. Giambi has never said a word to the public negatively about his situation. Not once. Even when they “suggested” he go to the minors, he maintained his performance was the issue.
we should get thomas as a right handed power bat of the bench haha
You can make changes now from a playing time perspective…but I think it is too early to be DFA’ing anyone.
Ray, your stat references are good, but you’re a bit of a Giambi apologist. In 2004 he was awful, he hasn’t hit for average in years, and his glove is horrible. If the Yankees didn’t have a host of DH’s I would say fine, keep him. But, at this point he’s a liability. I know it’s early and I’m not trying to be an alarmist, but let’s be real.
Giambi can’t hit a fastball anymore!
He does not hit line drives anymore!
Giambi needs to go period! Right now Miranda is better and he hasn’t started hitting yet but he is walking.
Gardner is ready right now and is needed badly!
Yeah, I also don’t like to see the laughter on the bench when getting beat. Where is the professionalism? I wouldn’t be surprised if Girardi said something to him in private after the game.
Dan – if you put both a “period” and an “!”…how do I know how you really want to end the sentence?
SJ, I agree with you about Damon…….apparently Girardi does not. Why isn’t he riding the bench even if it’s just one day off to “punish” him …..not even for his pathetic performance, but for his laughing on the bench like he doesn’t have a care in the world? I thought Joe wasn’t going to tolerate stuff like this.
The problem with saying Gardner has had less than 100 AAA AB’s, as a means why he shouldn’t be viewed as an option is this:
Joba had less than 20 AAA innings and the Yankees threw him into a pennant race in an entirely new role for him. He performed and performed well.
Sometimes, guys are just ready to be given a shot. Since the first day of ST, he has played outstanding baseball.
Is he the next superstar in baseball? Probably not. Can he be an asset to the team? You never know until you put him in and see what happens.
But, what if he jump starts the team right now? Isn’t it worth a look?
Sure, they can go another month with Johnny Damon and they probably will go in that direction.
Just saying that sometimes, and its been shown in the past 3 years, young players jump start your team.
Peter,
Can you post your analysis of what could happen if Hughes and Kennedy to continue to pitch like this?
In fact, Igawa and Rasner are doing excellent at AAA:
Igawa at AAA: 4 GS, 21.2 IP (2.49 ERA): 16 H, 1 HR, 4 BB, 20 K, 0.50 GO:AO, .205 BAA.
8.3 K/9, 1.7 BB/9 and 0.92 WHIP.
Rasner at AAA: 3 GS, 17 IP (1.04 ERA): 11 H, 0 HR, 4 BB, 16 K, 1.62 GO:AO, .183 BAA.
8.5 K/9, 2.1 BB/9 and 0.88 WHIP.
TK,
Nobody retires with 13 million coming. Damon won’t retire.
Guys play when they have that much money coming.
There is no nobility to leaving that much money on the table. Nor should there be.
someone needs to say it get rid of girardi
Anyone else think that that win totals for playoff teams in the AL will be the lowest in quite some time? I would bet that 92 maybe 93 wins is good enough to win the East. I also think 90 wins will secure the Wild Card. The AL is so tough every day and with Toronto and the Rays SP the win totals will be lower.
On another note, the Yanks will have a big day today. Pettitte is great in this spot.
Prediction. Pettitte will go at least 7 innings and 3 yes 3 different Yanks will homer off Trachsel. Blow out win.
I will read but not post until after our games but only if the Yanks win.
Have a good relaxing Sunday.
-dennis
I don’t care if he’s doing magic tricks in the dugout as long as he gets his head out of his butt and not get tagged at first base.
I think Melky should lead off except his switch hitting helps further down the lineup.
SJ – I, too, am tired of seeing veterans with little energy…but I don’t want to see Gardner turn out like Melky the first time up…where he was overmatched.
Neither Giambi or Damon will be DFAd. At the msot they will be sent to the bench. Come to accept it. As bad as they are now, both of them will be very good players to have on the bench.
The only qeustion is what it will do to the team chemistry. Neither of them is selfish like Thomas and may not make much waves, but you never know. That is why they should be given enough chance, a couple more weeks, to prove they can turn it around.
except for catcher, the yankees are going out there today with their veteran ” A” team . their best pitcher to stop a losing streak is on the mound.
this is a test for “veteraness”. if they can’t play well with this lineup, it’s time for a shake up.
shake ups don’t have to be permanent. they’re often just to get people’s attention. just doing badly at the park doesn’t mean damon , giambi, and mussina aren’t sleeping well. it’s hard for a bad day at the office to change some one’s life when they have 50 million or more in the bank.
that’s why i like public humilation for these guys. put the triple a guys in their spots and make them watch from the bench with the the tv cameras checking their faces to see how they are taking it.
look what “benching” mussina did last year after he was sent to the bullpen last august. he came back with a 3.5 era for september. and he was ticked off. you know what . good. just the players like him should be.
whatever it takes to get an edge back on them,
I don’t know SJ – he has his ring, and he knows he is stinking it up.
Then again, what am I saying, $13 MILLION.
I sit corrected.
I’m not sure Igawa nor Rasner are the answer.
I think a lot of folks are falling into the “back-up QB syndrome.” The guy on the sidelines wearing the ball cap always looks better because he’s not the one on the field throwing the interceptions.
Same goes for Igawa and Rasner. I’d rather them give a shot to one of the younger guys instead of the AAAA guys who are great in AAA, up-and-down in Spring Training, and spotty (at best) in the majors.
“someone needs to say it get rid of girardi”
You said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is not going to happen.
Melky was 19 when he first came up. Gardner is 24, with college baseball as well as professional experience. A huge difference between the two cases.
Yeah, Damon is definitely not retiring…but someone might have interest in him. Turn him into a couple of prospects. I don’t really think he enjoys NY, I think that’s part of the problem. I think he laments his decision not to resign with Boston.
Ahh, such calm and rational fans.
IT’S APRIL 20TH.
The “solution” to the starting pitching issues is Joba in the rotation.
Rasner? Should be the long guy. Not having a long guy on this roster, as its presently constructed, is nuts.
My beef is simple. Too many guys in unsuited roles on the roster. The whole roster is disjointed. Whatever the reasons, you have to fix it.
First base, Ollie as a long guy, after spending the entire ST working in short relief, Joba being wasted in the rotation, etc.
That has to get cleaned up.
Whether they do it now, next week, next month or whenever, the roster is going to have to be addressed at some point.
I just want it addressed earlier than it was last year.
This doesn’t look good – big red and yellow blobs are taking over Charm City.
It has been a steady rain here all morning:
http://weather.wjz.com/auto/wjzV3/Region/Northeast/2xRadar.html?gimg=http://llnw.radar.cbslocal.com/anim/wjz/radar_anim.gif>itle=WJZ%20Radar
I think most of the discussion today has been very calm and rational.
If folks don’t want to discuss baseball, why come in here?
We all know its April 20. We also see a roster that’s a mess, veteran players who look done, and a team that is coming off a completely awful performance last night.
What should the topic de jour be today, “Don’t worry, all is well”?
You’re right, that’s a five-year difference and a big maturity factory. I’m just a realist…I don’t think the Yankees would make a move this early in April. I, too, would like to see Gardner’s energy…I just don’t think they would make a move this early. In the meantime, I’d like to see Gardner get a few more ABs to “mature” his bat.
But, in order for Gardner to get a shot, a roster move would have to take place involving one of the veterans…and, again, I don’t think Cashman is ready to make that move without ensuring there is not enough left in the tanks of either Giambi or Damon.
The one move vis-a-vis Damon and Jason that I can see as likely is releasing Giambi, bringing up Gardner, and benching Damon. I would keep Johnny because he has two more years on his deal, and you need him in the very real possibility that Gardner can’t cut it. But with Giambi the alternative – Shelley and/or Ensberg/Minky (if that deal is consummated) – is more likely to work out.
Given the money involved with Jason I would think the Yanks would give him some more time to get it together. But not a lot longer.
The pitching staff is a whole different issue…I never understood why Girardi kept saying he wanted a long man then left ST without one.
I would LOVE to see Joba in the rotation sooner rather than later.
A true long man is needed.
Ohlendorf should get a shot at the 7th/8th inning role.
I guess everyone has their Yankee they’d like to see banished…mine is Farnsworth. I would have traded him awhile ago and will never trust him.
With so many arms in the minors, I would like to see others get a shot.
edit…big maturity factor…
Joe – where did you read that Minky might be coming back?
“Ahh, such calm and rational fans.
IT’S APRIL 20TH.”
umm larry isn’t this from your blog:
“Grrr…
Perhaps it’s because I’m getting older–all the way up to 24–but last season I managed to wait until April 28th to write my “This team is making me nuts!†piece. (Albeit one couched in some historical context.)
This year, however, they have managed to make me nuts by April 19th”
isn’t there a little disconnect between the two ?
not that i don’t agree with you about going nuts. i ‘d really like a win today ,or i might just take that approach.
SJ is right: today the discussion is calm and rational.
At least, until the game starts.
Giambi’s contract is money that is already spent, regardless of whether he plays or is released. Why compound the problem by keeping him just because you are paying him? If the Yankes really think he can still be productive(which I don’t) fine, keep him. But if they are keeping him solely because of the money he’s owed, that’s just stupid.
SJ44
Maybe the topic should be: Let’s fix it, while there is still time.
SJ’s right. This is just passionate fans discussing potential options for a team with holes. No panic, just being realistic.
Go with the youth movement, sure up the defense (Minky at first…he’s also been playing a lot of third in Pittsburgh, just an fyi). It’s never too early to make good moves.
http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/USMD0018?from=36hr_maps&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar
Radar does not look good.
Hi, I’m Larry Mahnken, not Richard Barbieri.
To see Giambi in the lineup is so disappointing. Girardi has to know that Giambi 5 hits in 55 pa and Ensberg 6 hits in 16 pa. Wake up Girardi!
Saying that players should be released or the manager should be fired after 19 games is not calm or rational.
Those are the comments I’m replying to in this case.
I just realized: If they have to cancel today’s game, would they schedule the make up for the off day tomorrow? I know thee’s something about playing 21 games in a row so I don’t know.
How irrational of the Jays to release Thomas then I guess.
oh wow that weather looks nice. I think the Yankees would kill the baltimore grounds crew manager if they have to play tomorrow
Larry,
True, but suggesting Joba as a starter, bringing up Duncan, benching Giambi/damon. These are legimate options.
If the game were postponed today they could make it up later in the season. The Yanks visit Baltimore again
Think we can ask opposing pitchers to put on a Mike Timlin jersey and disguise when the Giambino steps into the box?
they wouldn’t play tomorrow, or at least they better not.
So I guess all that BS this preseason about past slow Yankee starts being blamed on Torre not having his guys in shape to start the year can be put to rest?
I think Larry was responding to the DFA posts from the beginning of the thread.
raymagnetic, all Giambi has to do is a halfway-competent bunt and he’s on first. even as slow as he is. all he has to do is push it past Papelbon, and there’s no one to field it. it’s a no-brainer.
Giambi’s done it – i think it was against the Mets a few years ago. so he’s capable. just not willing.
cutting Giambi, as some are suggesting – i think that’s way premature. he’s looked done before. his upside is too high to just give up on him.
Giambi..upside? Have you not been watching him the last few years?
I’m aware of what Larry was referring to. By association the idea of releasing Thomas would also be considered irrational.
The Blue Jays were afraid that Thomas was going to turn it around and then they would owe him $10mil next year. I also think they were ticked off that he outed the situation to the press. Frank Thomas still has some goods left. He should be able to land somewhere. We don’t need him. We’ve already got an aging DH (Giambi) who is slumping.
Giambi has no upside. He’s 37, he’s not going to recapture what he had at 30. Sorry it’s just the truth.
When Giambi’s BA has been low in the past, he has always been able to keep up OBP up with walks and HBP. However, thus far this year, the walks (even those he is second on the team in BB) aren’t enough to compensate and his OBP is only .291.
edit…up his OBP with…
Pete, what happened to the edit buttons?
And consider this another vote for registration!
PLEASE PLEASE CUT GIAMBI AND DAMON. BRING UP SHELLY AND GARDNER.
Giambi has done NOTHING the past 2 years. He was good because he took HGH and steroids. He is NOTHING now.
Damon is another LOSER who needs to be cut. this guy flails at pitches like a woman. Gardner will easily replace this “idiot”
Don’t forget the past few years how when Giambi made his regular trips to the DL, the team always seemed to start playing better. Coincidence…I think not.
Laura, I agree. I think the dollar situation was a factor for them (they’ve spent a lot in recent years on the longterm contracts for Burnett, Ryan, Wells, with Alex Rios waiting -I don’t think they’ve signed him longterm, yet, but I might have missed it). I think Thomas might still have something left in the tank. However, we are amply stocked with DH possibilities.
I wish my life is better.
Giambi…”upside”? You don’t normally refer to a 37 year old’s “upside.”
up side (noun) – an upward trend; a positive result; an encouraging or positive aspect
The three Yankee pitchers with a WHIP at 1.00 or lower:
I think everyone can guess two of the names right off the bat:
Mo
Joba
And the third?
Bruney
Unless Damon’s bench laughing has been discussed and resolved by Girardi, the next time it occurs the bench coach (Rob Thomson) should go right to Damon and tell him to expect a strong conversation with the manager after the game and do it so some of his teammates can can hear it.
nypd-
you know how i know that you are basically a dumb $#$%$. you step into the middle of discussions when we yankee fans are already beating each other up.
I have a feeling Giambi and Damon will both hit a HR today..if the game is played. I think they read this blog, and they are getting mad at how much we hate them. I bet they want to prove us wrong.
The WHIP of our starters:
Moose – 1.38
Pettitte – 1.55
Hughes – 2.14
Kennedy – 2.29
Wang – 1.08
Keith – I would rather Girardi handle it professionally (if he hasn’t already) by reprimanding in private. Especially with a veteran ego.
Instead of signing that fat washed up loser Frank Thomas, cashman should go ahead and sign the best baseball player of all time- BARRY BONDS.
What reputation are the yankees trying to keep? the franchise is known for roid abusers (giambi, arod??, clemens, pettitte), thugs (melky and shelly punching rays players), headhunters (clemens, farnsworth, joba), adulterers (arod), tax evaders (jeter), a spoiled fanbse, an unfair budget, ETC ETC.
sign bonds and see a dramatic change in the offense.
SS Jeter
LF Melky
RF ABREU
3B AROD
DH BONDS
1B DUNCAN
C POSADA
2B CANO
CF GARDNER
My feeling on Damon’s bench comedy is that these guys should be as miserable watching the games as I am. If it hurts me to see them lose, they should be hurting too. There is absolutely nothing funny about how they are playing right now. I don’t know what the hell Damon was laughing about, but he needs to get more focus and try putting the bat on the ball.
Westerner: OW. Why did you do that to me?
“I think they read this blog, and they are getting mad at how much we hate them.”
Hate them?? Not only that…We?? I think “we” is simply you. And perhaps you should put things in perspective.
Westerner 99 :
Giambi’s numbers are a direct result of his quickly declining bat speed. Damon also fits in the same catagory.
It’s easy enough to see on TV.
We are not signing Bonds.
End of story.
Unless Damon’s bench laughing has been discussed and resolved by Girardi, the next time it occurs the bench coach (Rob Thomson) should go right to Damon and tell him to expect a strong conversation with the manager after the game and do it so some of his teammates can can hear it.
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I saw it too and was disgusted by it. Obviously the “idiot” is not bothered by losing. He’s looking forward to partying the night away and committing adultery.
Rebecca – I was surprised by the numbers when I saw them. Moose’s number surprised me.
I don’t hate Damon or Giambi. Hell, I don’t even hate Farnsworthless. I just want them to perform better.
The only baseball player I hate is Manny Ramirez, who I think is a talented, yet disgraceful player who should be knocked on his butt every now and then.
just incase they read this blog…
to giambi: *middle finger*
to damon: *middle finger*
Jackie – I never said it wasn’t. I was talking about his OBP not compensating for his BA decline.
Need a big bounce back game today.. The Yankees need to show some life.
Mark my words, the Yanks want nothing to do with Barry Bonds.
It will never happen. I will lure Jessica Simpson away from Tony Romo before the Yanks sign Barry Bonds.
How many DH’s do you want on this team?
I don’t think any team is signing Bonds ever again. He is a clubhouse cancer.
Oh this is rich stuff. Now we have Bonds. Too funny.
Giambi’s upside over the last few years is shown by his stats. his OPS+ in 2006-2007 was excellent. last year it was slightly above league-average, poor for a DH-1B type – but he was doing well before he hurt his foot:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/giambja01.shtml
yeah, no doubt, he’s not the Giambi of 2001, he hasn’t hit .300 in awhile. but 2006 & 2007 are not ancient history – those years define his upside: 30+ HRs, a .400+ OBP, a .500+ slugging percentage.
Guiseppe Franco
April 20th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Mark my words, the Yanks want nothing to do with Barry Bonds.
It will never happen. I will lure Jessica Simpson away from Tony Romo before the Yanks sign Barry Bonds.
How many DH’s do you want on this team?
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I want a competent DH, at least!
Giambi has got to be the DUMBEST hitter on the face of the planet. He has the entire left side of the infield open and he REFUSES to hit it there. He stays in his open pull stance cause he wants homeruns.
WANTED :
Some long lost Yankee stagger. This comes from feeling good about themselves with come-from-behind wins, run production with 2 outs, timely hitting, and clutch pitching.
There’s been little semblance of the things required to get the stagger.
Winning breeds confidence. Time for a mild shakeup.
yeah, because having giambi on the bases is a GREAT THING. It takes 3 singles to knock him in from first.
Old bonds will still outrun FAT GIAMBI anyday. Bonds might not be able to run with stamina but he can still do it in spurts.
Methinks Moeller is in the line up cos he rakes against Trachsel.
Ensberg’s got good numbers too, they should be playing him.
Yankees OBP leaders:
Matsui – .400
Abreu – .365
Cabrera – .365
Rodriguez – .358
Jeter – .340
SJ,
I agree with you on the Yankees needing a real first baseman. But what options are better than Posada if he can’t catch? Giambi is a terrible defender who looks timid everytime he has to throw the ball. Shelley Duncan may be mashing, but his defense at first is awful. Ensberg is a Third Baseman and I haven’t seen enough of him there to comment on his defense, but wouldn’t figure it’d be spectacular.
So, while I agree that Posada cost the Yankees a run there last night, there aren’t many better options, and Jorge’s the most proven bat we could use there. It would also let Damon play left and Matsui DH.
I really believe Damon will come around. He did last year, and was one of our best offensive players in the playoffs. I’m not sure about Giambi. I certainly wouldn’t DFA him yet, but would like his playing time reduced since there are alternatives. Posada is hitting. Ensberg has shown some promise. I’d like to see more of the players who are hitting.
I’d also like to see a bit more of Alberto Gonzalez. I’m not screaming to bench Cano, but can he get in a game from time to time? Yesterday would have been the perfect time to start him at Second.
Bonds, yeah, just what Girardi’s already unraveling composure needs.
Sometimes I think Kim Jones asks provocatively obtuse questions by design just to assume the stance of the aggressive reporter. Is it that hard to devise intelligent questions to ask a manager? There were questions I wanted answered that no one asked– like, was IPK struggling to command all his pitches? Or does IPK always have to pitch on the corners to be successful? Does he have the repertoire to be successful even on days his control and command escapes him? Would Ohlendorf’s performance of late ever commend him for a spot start, a regular position in the starting rotation, or as a long-man? Are the struggles of the offense compounding the Hughes/IPK’s struggles? Are Hughes’ and IPK’s struggles, in turn, inducing the hitters to press and to aggravate their collective slump?
BTW, what’s the real story about Posada’s arm? Are the Yankees just being overly cautious or can we infer that their enigmatic secrecy about it is designed to conceal a genuine fear that Posada may not be able to catch again this year?
I find it hard to believe we can’t find a way to put Duncan on the roster. He absolutely deserves it and we could use his enthusiasm. Put Jorge on the DL until he’s ready to catch.
“nypd-
you know how i know that you are basically a dumb $#$%$. you step into the middle of discussions when we yankee fans are already beating each other up.”
– Look on the bright side randy, we have had some beautiful weather the last couple days.
“Yankee stagger”
They’ve been staggering. I’d like to see them with some swagger so they don’t stagger.
We are NOT cutting Giambi or Damon or Cano or whoever else you think is stinking up the clubhouse.
Have some faith, people. We ain’t done yet.
“Stagger” — a pretty apt freudian slip to describe the current team.
Kill-Schill(ing)
April 20th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Bonds, yeah, just what Girardi’s already unraveling composure needs.
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why should anyone care about girardi’s composure? if he can’t manage bonds then he shouldn’t be in new york.
I just noticed Dan McCutchen’s great numbers in AA. SJ44 or someone else, can you give us a scouting report on him? Also I suppose he’s not on the 40 man roster. I wonder if they’ll call him up to AAA soon. Also if you had to rank the Yankee starting pitching prospects not currently in the majors would McCutchen top the list?
I want a competent DH, at least!
Giambi has got to be the DUMBEST hitter on the face of the planet. He has the entire left side of the infield open and he REFUSES to hit it there. He stays in his open pull stance cause he wants homeruns.
Guess what? This isn’t fantasy baseball. You can’t drop any player you want without repercussions. They would still have to pay his enormous salary this season.
It’s easy to release players when it’s not your money.
This is the kind of thing that happens when you sign players to enormous deals because you’re stuck with them if they become unproductive.
Cashman has made his bed with these deals and now he has to sleep in it for one more season. The same goes with Pavano, Moose, Farnsworth, etc, etc.
cashman is too insecure to admit he’s wrong.
he had the chance to trade giambi to the angels but turned it down, asking for a better package.
damon is just a huge disaster. this “idiot” only had 1 good year and it has been downhill ever since.
instead of cutting these 2 losers and bringing up those who derserve to play (gardner and shelly), he won’t do it because of his ego.
guess what cashman? you’re no theo epstein.
you’re right this is cashman’s bed:
- the yankees not making the playoffs
- cashman forced out of new york
- cashman signs with a loser franchise and stays a loser until he dies.
- new yorkers write “loser” on cashman’s tombstone
“Ray, your stat references are good, but you’re a bit of a Giambi apologist. In 2004 he was awful, he hasn’t hit for average in years, and his glove is horrible.”
I’m not apologizing for Giambi. But it’s a myth to say he wasn’t good in 05 and 06. The numbers bear that out. While he hasn’t hit for average his OBP was over .400 in both 05 and 06.
Giambi is WASHED UP AND WILL NEVER BE DECENT AGAIN. THIS IS ALMOST FACT.
The difference between Giambi and Frank Thomas is that Giambi won’t complain about losing playing time. From what I understand, Giambi’s teammates love him. He won’t get DFA’d like Thomas. I would however, consider giving him the Thomas treatment that the Jays originally intended (less playing time). After almost 20 games, a .116 average is enough to be worrisome.
I think Giambi must be a cy-lon.
Giambi is going to crush Traschel today. Watch.
if giambi doesn’t crush traschel today then that will be the final straw i hope.
‘ Look on the bright side randy, we have had some beautiful weather the last couple days. ”
yeah, what have you been doing , planting pansies?
Jeter loves Giambi, btw. Not that that would affect the Yankees decision-making, but Giambi isn’t going anywhere.
If he continues to struggle, the Yankees will sit him, demote Moeller, once Posada can catch, and play Shelly Duncan at 1B.
BTW, the person to worry about is Damon, not Giambi. Whatever offense Giambi produces is a luxury. Getting Damon on-base, on the other hand, is an imperative.
I’m ambivalent about Cashman because he has made a lot of bad moves.
However, the direction of the franchise has changed (aggressive player development and rebuilding from within) in recent years and that is the most significant thing Cashman has done since he arrived.
Personally, I don’t care whether he returns next season or not as long as his philosophy on player development sticks and is continued by his successor.
That said, I don’t think Cashman is going anywhere. And Hank and Hal have basically said that it’s just a matter of time before they work out a deal.
“‘ Look on the bright side randy, we have had some beautiful weather the last couple days. â€
yeah, what have you been doing , planting pansies?”
-Unfortunately stuck inside @ work. BTW, Manny’s HR just landed.
I love the idea of an “almost fact.”
Almost fact: The Yankees won the World Series in 2003.
Gutsy move by what the Blue Jays did to Frank Thomas, maybe that will give the Yankees a teach on how to handle Giambi. As for my opinion on Barry Bonds, just check the handle!
Dan McCutcheon throws sits 91-93 with his fastball. He has a very good change up and a very good curve ball. His slider is also a decent pitch.
The thing that really makes him effective is his control – he’s only walked 2/9.
With McCutchen – he’s a guy with a good low 90’s fastball who can throw 4 pitches (3 of which are good to very good) and has plus control.
His stuff is not as good as Alan Horne’s but he has better control.
He’s going to be a productive major league pitcher. I’d like th yankees to promote him to AAA and see if he could help in the bull pen later on.
If I were the Yankees the way they are playing now I would hope it rains every day for the rest of the year.
Anybody watching the pre-game show on YES? They just interviewed Girardi and he said all of these line-up changes every day are because of Jorge and to keep his bat going until he can catch. Then he said, “We need to keep Jorge in whether it is DH, 1st base or the outfield”.
Has Jorge ever played in the outfield?
I just want Shelly. I think if the Yankees have bruises on their arms, then they will hit.
Yep, my bad. Swagger was the intended word. Regardless, we still need to see some.
the tarp is off the field
“Personally, I don’t care whether he returns next season or not as long as his philosophy on player development sticks and is continued by his successor.”
Should Cashman not come back, there’s a high probability that whoever replaces him looks at what’s happened with the team and conclude that you can’t rely on young players in New York. You can’t wait for them to develop because you can’t win enough regular season games to appease the fan base, media and ownership.
This happens when leadership regime’s change all the time. New GM looks at what got the old GM fired/ not brought back and makes sure not to repeat the same “mistakes” of the prior GM.
If Cashman doen’t come back there’s a very good chance that the current philosophy of putting together the team is scrapped and we’re back to signing high priced veterans.
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That is a fair point, but I think the leading contender to replace Cashman would be Damon Oppenheimer.
Logic would suggest that Oppenheimer would probably have a similar philosophy as Cashman regarding player development.
“The thing that really makes him effective is his control – he’s only walked 2/9.”
Sure, they said that about Phil and Ian too. and we all know what happended there.
CB –
I think the main candidate to replace Cashman if he leaves is supposed to the draft guru (Oppenheim?) I think Hank is sold on the need to develop young players – he has a man crush on Joba for example.
That said, anything could happen. There should be a big revenue rush next year and the dollars coming off the payroll are going to drive a lot of the decision making.
“Unfortunately stuck inside @ work. BTW, Manny’s HR just landed.”
yeah, i saw it as it passed cape cod.
hope it didn’t land on one of buchholz’s laptops. i know how he hates that.
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“hope it didn’t land on one of buchholz’s laptops. i know how he hates that.”
Ooooo, yeah. I totally get where you were trying to go with that one randy but a little too much of a reach.
A for effort, F for execution.
“That is a fair point, but I think the leading contender to replace Cashman would be Damon Oppenheimer.”
No. I don’t think that’s true. GM is a much larger position than director of amateur scouting. It’s scope of responsibility far wider.
For instance, amateur scouting directors have no experience making trades. None. That’s not part of the job description.
It’s not that often that guys who are Amateur Scouting directors move directly to the GM spot. Usually they pass through some other leadership position with the team – whether that’s assistant GM, etc.
Also – Oppenheimer is as closely associated with Cashman as anyone in the organization. There’s still a lot of animosity against the fact that Cashman wrested control form George’s friends in Tampa who used to run the draft (the worst drafting in all of baseball, btw) and gave it to Oppenheimer.
If Cash goes there will be a lot of negativity directed towards Oppenheimer by extension.
Also – if Cash goes that’s not just a repudiation of him – it’s a repudiation of the direction he’s lead the team in.
Why would they get rid of someone who’s committed to youth only to replace him a Director of Amateur Scouting – the guy in charge of acquiring those young players?
I don’t know who’d replace Cash. I wouldn’t bet on Oppenheimer, however.
If Cash goes chances are the next GM will take the team in a very different direction. Why just repeat the same approach of being patient, sticking with young players, etc. when it was that approach that got the last GM fired?
When you change a GM you do so to change the direction the team has been going in. By all accounts Cashman is a nice enough guy – he wouldn’t be going because of personality issues (like say part of what got DePodesta fired in LA).
Cash would go because ownership was not happy with the results that his vision for the team are producing.
The next guy will in all likelihood look at it this way – Cashman was in charge of a team that made the playoffs year after year. Then he decides to build with youth – the team misses the playoffs – and Cash gets fired. This is New York I better not risk my own hide doing what just got Cash fired.
No windows on the new YS on the first base side.
It’s going to be very wet inside the Great Hall when it rains.
does anybody think michael kay is the biggest cheeze ball ever
Jeff,
CB’s scouting report on McCutcheon is spot on.
Not being on the 40 man roster pretty much precludes him helping them early in the year.
He should be in AAA though. IMO, I think its a waste to have him in AA past June 1.
Thank god Gary Thorne isn’t announcing the game on MLB.TV. The last two nights, it is like he wasn’t even paying attention half the time and made tons of mistakes with facts. He was annoying the crap out of me.
Thanks for those pics Greg.
CB: Then I would guess that those of us that like the idea of moving towards youth better hope Cashman returns.
You have a manager who is passive and you change managers, you usually hire a manager with “fire” and vice versa.
You have a GM committed to kids, you hire a new GM who isn’t committed to kids. Its as traditional a deal in MLB as hot dogs at a game.
I just want them to move quicker to address the roster issues, that’s all.
Dennis’ post earlier this morning, speaking of decrease win totals in the AL this year is spot.
The gap is closing in the AL. The bad teams are tougher wins these days.
You can’t wait 3 months to address issues.
The roster, in its present construction is not only a mess, its dsyfuctional. It doesn’t work.
Its not going to improve unless you change it.
Hopefully, its done sooner rather than later.
“The pitching staff is a whole different issue…I never understood why Girardi kept saying he wanted a long man then left ST without one.”
The two viable candiates were Karstens and Rasner.
When they left for North, Kartens was hurt and Rasner was terrible. They never expected Hughes and IPK to be this unrealiable. Soon they will correct the situation. However, they may not do it until they have a read on Karstens. Also, Rasner is not on 40, so it makes a little complicated.
My Johnny Damon shirt and Jason Giambi shirt are hanging outside my door, I refuse to wear them untill they both get a HR
nice job jete
Well, Jeter’s hitting.
ahh almost a hr!
lets get it going yanks!
There’s a runner in scoring position. If the Yanks pretend that Jeter’s on first, can they get him in?
derek jeter: one of the reasons I will always tune into a yankee game
i could of guessed that was going to happen
NY Post Interview with CM Wang:
Q: If you weren’t a baseball player, what would you have been?
A: A gangster
haha
Steph: You’d think so…
In the Livejournal community, we’re taking bets on LOB and RISP.
Any takers?
baaaahhhhhhhh
Haha, I’m starting to think that Jeter will be the first LOB of the game. Can’t the Yanks just tell the hitters that the runners aren’t in scoring position so the bats will wake up and they can move him along?
A-Rod K’s. Jeter stranded.
Only thing more painful than watching young pitchers struggle, is watching veteran players just flail at balls in the dirt w/RISP.
A telltale sign of a pressing team.
This game may take five or six hours if the Yankees continue to get runners on base. Steve Trachsel is a notoriously slow worker when he has men on base.
This team is playing under a dark cloud and has bad karma.
Too bad Dereks ball didn’t go out. Then the Yanks would have scored a run!
“Then I would guess that those of us that like the idea of moving towards youth better hope Cashman returns.”
Rebecca,
I believe so. If Cash goes I think the rebuilding the team through youth is going to be halted because they’ll want a GM with a different vision, one who is going to take a different direction.
Fran: you mean if Jeter had hit a HR, the Yankees would have scored?
arod back up to his old tricks. What a loser with runners on
Pettitte’s working quickly. Maybe that means the game can come in under 4 hours.
Wow, a 1-2-3 inning from a Yankee starter. I’d forgotten what that felt like. Thank you, Andy.
12 pitches for Pettitte…keep it in the zone, Andy!
Back-to-back K’s for Andy…dare I ask the Yankee offense to give him some support?
Thanks CB and SJ44. Looks to me like McCutchen should be promoted soon too. Not counting Horne, it seems like most of the starters in AAA are non prospects, no offense Rasner or Igawa. Ok that’s my last post until late tonight, enjoy the game all, let’s get this one and enjoy the first day off of the year tomorrow.
Westerner – I think that’s it! It might be the only way they will score at this rate.
Well, at least Andy and Jeter want to win =)
with so may teams having money and staying in the hunt passed the trading deadline, it’s getting harder and harder each year for cashman to count on trades as the summer goes on to fix problems.
so internally is the natural next best place to look. this is where girardi comes in. billy martin was known for bringing up double a players and getting immediate production out of them right away. i remember him doing that with sundberg at texas. this is a situation where the manager doesn’t just let them play. he gets in the way of the game and puts his personality on it. the manager as tactician becomes important.
i think the yankees need this because this is not a push button team like in the past with an all star at every position. i would like to see girardi get creative with someone like gardner who everyone says runs with ellsbury.
Afternoon folks.
God bless Andy Pettitte. Here’s our stopper, he’s gonna pitch great and we’re gonna pick up the W.
Unless the total ineptitude with RISP continues the whole game of course.
Horne isn’t yet throwing in Tampa. I don’t know what that means.
I do know, contrary to the Yankees initial statement on his injury, he isn’t only going to be out “for a week”.
Its been 9 days and he isn’t throwing yet. Tells me the injury is a tad more serious than the Yankees are letting on.
Bad luck for Matsui. If Jones wasn’t so quick, that would have been a double.
Texas 2-0.
GO RANGERS!
Dang that Jones. He’s robbed back-to-back doubles.
Dear Yankees–Please hit the balls nnot at the Baltimore fielders.
Thank you,
Rebecca
well at least we’re hitting the ball
too bad its too people
both my Giambi and Damon shirts are still hanging up, soon will be in the garbage after that atbat.
“Giambi is going to crush Traschel today. Watch.”
he’s doing great so far
Yay, no RISP stranded that inning!
That’s a silver lining.
of course..giambi strikes out
Don’t you mean “Dear Yankees-Don’t hit the ball anywhere near Adam Jones?”
“Horne isn’t yet throwing in Tampa. I don’t know what that means.”
That’s very unfortunate. The whole thing of him missing one start was the Yankee’s injury BS as usual.
If he’s not even rehabbing yet it could be a while.
Too bad. They could have used him.
It’s strange that they didn’t make a move then to replace him in the AAA rotation.
Instead of calling up a McCutchen they just moved Dan Giese into the AAA rotation.
Hopefully they’re just being overly cautious with their injuries.
this weekend has been hard to watch
Dear Yankees -
Thanks for at least putting wood on the ball. We know that those kinds of AB will eventually find gaps and go over walls.
You can live with the Matsui and Cano AB’s. Balls hit on the nose and caught. That’s baseball.
Giambi? What can you say at this point?
Just can’t be in the lineup, or even on this team (IMO) after today.
Its reached the point of embarrassment watching his AB’s. He has no chance up there.
Shudder to think of Mussina’s next start in Chicago. Jim Thome, Paul Konerko et al must be salivating at the thought of his powder puff 80’s fastball.
Tomorrow is a the 1st day off since April 1st. Cashman should be making a minimum of one pitching change and one position player change in order for a tempo change to take place.
Cano and Matsui at least drove the ball. Giambi looked terrible that at bat.
Eh. at least they hit a couple balls hard that inning, to add to the jeter double in the 1st. it’s a nice change from all the ground-outs and pop-ups in the previous 2 games. i guess they decided “look guys, we can’t hit with RISP so lets just hit a bunch of solo homers.” so far it’s not working out for cano and matsui.
hahaa manny got thrown out for arguing with the umps
there goes boston’s offense
Dear Andy:
Can I please have some of your Wheaties?
Cheers,
Rebecca
pettitie cruising
Manny got thrown out? Excellent.
Pettitte with another good inning.
Something obviously happened to Manny. He’s out of the game. So he either got hurt or got tossed. Turned in time to hear them say “Well Manny’s not going to have tomorrow as a day off, he’s getting it today. That can’t make Terry Francona happy.”
Stay tuned.
Andy being Andy.
Wow, that was too easy. Way to go Andy!!!
well Gardner walked, stole second then scored on a sac fly…we might see him soon especially w/ simply pathetic not getting on base
At this rate, Andy’s going to have a 3-pitch inning in the 3rd.
Also, Manny Being Manny got tossed out of the Boston game, presumably for Being Manny and arguing balls and strikes (I think probably strikes).
CB,
Here is what I mean when I talk about Gardner…..
Today’s game in Scranton.
He leads off with a walk. Steals second, and scores on a double.
Second inning, he drives in a run with a single.
When has our leadoff hitter had this type of production in a game this season?
Am I saying Gardner is going to be a superstar? No.
But, for a team lacking energy, which this team is BIGTIME, why not try it? What have they go to lose?
Nick: LMAO!
you know i haven’t noticed the road crowds chanting anything derogatory about Andy Pettitte. have any of you? if not, that’s cool.
Uh, don’t speak about Beantown’s (lack of )offense too soon…
Meanwhile, I noticed that for some reason I am not allowed to call them by their rightful name without having the post “waiting for moderation”, so I will refer to them by my alternative nickname for them: Girl scouts, or scouts for short.
“Manny got thrown out? Excellent.”
he got ejected from the game too.
Lol, usually getting thrown out means getting ejected.
Come on offense…this is sad.
John Sterling went to his homer call 3 times already today.Result Jeters double and two catches by Jones.Why does Giambi keep playing.A-rod since he became a Yankee has altenated good year with bad year.I am not a GM but changes do need to be made.We are over rated offensively and we play terrible defense Not just in errors but in balls that our fielders dont get to.I would bring up Duncan and Gardner and play them for 20 games and see what happens
DAMON GOT A HIT, wow, I don’t believe it.
The runner’s not in scoring position. Do I smell another hit?
another comeback win by Red Sux. Back to back HRs by Ortiz and Manny.
Unbelieveable. No way that steal was on. That was all Damon.
“April 20th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
DAMON GOT A HIT, wow, I don’t believe it.”
The sun even shines on a dog’s *** some days. Out at second.
Damon’s caught stealing.
ehy does he frustrate me so much, there is something about Johnny that screams to me.
i want Gardner
I saw him play on Friday night, he is electric & amazingly quick
Is it bad for me to wish Damon continues to slump for 2 reasons?
1.So we can finally get Gardner up here.
2.So it wipes that smirk off his face that he has in the duggout when the team is losing.
At least you dont see Giambi cracking jokes in the duggout while stinking it up.
Sometimes you have to give credit to the pitcher/catcher.
Since Jeter is really the only guy hitting lately, it was a good time for Damon to run and get into scoring position.
yeah, Damon got a hit. and promptly got thrown out trying to steal.
Gotta love these 1 pitch outs.
Damon just wanted to pre-strand himself so Jeter could lead off the 4th. Not to worry.
Brandon,
Something about Damon screams to me too……D-O-N-E. lol
Seriously, kudos for him getting a hit and at least trying to steal.
Its always nice when your leadoff hitter can get a hit once every 10 or 12 AB’s.
There’s no such thing as making roster changes too soon. If a trash can is half-full and stinking, you don’t wait until the can is overloaded with trash before finally ridding a house of it.
If Toronto thought they could drop a possible Hall of Famer at a decent salary in Frank Thomas, the Yankees can do the same.
Take the pick of Giambi, Mussina, or Damon. None are headed to the HOF.
SJ,
I agree with you on Gardner and Damon.
Out of spring training, I thought Gardner still had things to prove in AAA after his poor showing there last year. That’s why I didn’t want too make too much out of his Arizona League and Spring Training.
But Gardner is now doing exactly what he needed to do – prove himself against better pitchers. I wanted to see him make the necessary adjustments to succeed in AAA. And he’s doing exactly that.
Do I think he’s going to continue to be a 1.000 OPS guy? No. But he doesn’t need to.
It’s early and I don’t like to make rush judgments on players.
But just looking at Damon is very concerning – not only the result but the process. As abysmal as his results are – how he is playing is even more concerning.
He’s playing the game slow. In every facet. His hand speed at the plate looks terrible (like he’s swinging through molasses) and he isn’t driving the ball at all.
And then you watch his base running – it’s perplexing – over running first base yesterday on his way back on that double play? What was that? Inexplicable.
Getting thrown out at second after getting that hit. Again, the negative plays keep piling on.
Gardern doing what he needed to do in AAA. He should get a shot.
The young starting pitching has been poor this year. But this is a team that averaged over 6 runs per game last year.
If the rookie starters give up 5-6 runs – that’s bad. But this team should still find a way to win more than half those games as long as the opposing pitcher isn’t a Beckett type.
Damon is just giving them nothing.
Andy really is an inspiration, I hope the kids are taking notes. Call me crazy, but I think we can win this game!
Pettitte has done his job very well. Time for the offense to do their’s.
It doesn’t bother me to see Damon smiling in the dugout. Damon is serious as rain about winning, so if he is able to have a light moment, more power to him.
Look at how Detroit started out their season. Look at how Atlanta played last season for the first half of the season. Anyone remember the year Cleveland’s offense couldn’t get off the schnide?
I guess there must have been fans of those teams second guessing every last player on the team also, so have at.
The only crowd that will yell HGH jokes towards Pettitte are Red Sox fans.
I don’t think most fans care that much about the Mitchell Report anyway. Or they probably forgot who was on there anyway.
wow, andy has 26 pitches thru 3 innings
only if ian & phil can notice how he is pounding the strike zone!
cmon yanks!!
something tells me Maxoderm is going to be the new annoying commercial come baseball season, it use to be Guiseppe Franco still is but Maxoderm getting “up” the ladder.
Bless you Andy.
The Pope is currently entering Yankee Stadium. He’s Pope mobiling it up around the warning track. Some Yankees fans that came out are doing roll call.
This offense needs to give Andy something already.
Another good outing by Andy wasted on this team. What a shame!
Ugh @ running yourself out of an inning, especially with your hottest hitter at the plate. Damon looks terrible. I’m in favor of bringing Gardner up too, or even benching Damon for Matsui. We all saw what a little competition (then in the form of Shelley) did for him last year.
And speaking of Shelley, I can’t wait until he is back with the team at which point I want to see a Shelley/Ensberg platoon at 1st. Bench Giambi, who looks even worse than Damon. Also, what with the career #s vs Traschel Pete posted, why is Giambi playing today instead of Ensberg? (my bad if it’s been discussed already, I know there is always lots of critique about the lineup!)
Anyway, Andy looks very good so far. Let’s put some runs on the board for him!!!
How long do we wait for Hughes and Kennedy to get out of their funk? Should we send them down to work on their control? Its starting to remind me of last year. Where the pen were burnt out by the end of April. How long? Who goes first?
Will the Pope get booed if he wears #21?
There are differences in those teams Trisha.
Atlanta-Their entire pitching staff is hurt. Its a mess.
Detroit-Started poorly, have a lot of injuries and Leyland still laid them out the other night. Rookies, vets, he didn’t care. He wants the game played a certain way win or lose.
That’s what I am addressing today.
Is the schedule challenging? Yes.
Is it tough when the starters struggle this much? Yes.
But, you gotta play the game the right way.
That’s not happening. Especially with some of the veterans on the team.
Hopefully, it changes. If it doesn’t soon, loyalty be damned to some of these guys. Move on with younger, internal options.
robbb, wow that was a fast game. I thought we were only in the 4th inning.
btw, I hope Andy is spending as much time w/Hughes, Joba and Kennedy as humanly possible, and teaching them everything he knows.
Brian: LMAO, are they doing roll call for all of the cardinals?
Oh no, Bobby. He steals second and puts himself into scoring position.
CB we spoke about Damon awhile ago , we said, you even pointed out the most concerning quote of his career after facing Toronto and Tampa he said he was having trouble getting his hands through the strike zone. The loss of bat speed has to be a big concern, this isn’t the Johnny Damon anybody saw in those Yankees/Sox wars. He looks done and Giambi is becoming a bigger concern.
HOLY CRAPOLA WE SCORED WITH RISP
WE SCOREDDD
robbb, too bad the game was over or we would have scored a run right now!
Wooohoo A-ROD!!!
ahhhh there we GO!!
a hit w/ risp!!
Pinch me. Wait, don’t. I want to relish this. A-Rod got a double and scores Abreu!
OMG! OMFG! It’s gotta be the Holy Magic, a start of a gem from Andy and a hit with RISP!
Don’t pinch me, I don’t want to wake up.
FINALLY!
How about that!!
a breath of fresh air
2 hits with RISP in a row!
what happened? I thought we coudln’t score with RISP
Like I said. When your team is getting wood on the ball it is only a matter of time before the balls drop in.
They say it can be infectious.
I don’t know that I’ve ever seen Abreu slide headfirst before.
Hey look, another run!!
Matsui! Wow. 2-0 Yanks. This is refreshing.
Matsui’s still swinging well, great job!
haha sterling thought it was OUT again..thats 4 times already haha
there you go matsui!!
Funny…I don’t see the “Matsui is washed up” posts anymore.
Nick, never underestimate the value of the Pope visiting your house, even if you’re not home when he does!
Go ‘Deki!!!
See, bottom of the order plus Johnny Damon who belongs there? THAT’S how it’s done!
Trade Damon. Gardner in left. Giambi pinch hit. Ensburg and shelley at first. Matsui full time dh. dfa betimet. Gonzalez our utility guy.
“How long do we wait for Hughes and Kennedy to get out of their funk? ”
Just a point on last night’s game.
Kennedy was very bad.
That said they did not lose last night’s game because of Kennedy.
Now the reason why they didn’t lose that game because of kennedy was only because Ohlendorf did such a good job bailing them out.
They lost that game because they could not score any runs off Brian Burress who is an awful pitcher. Awful. Burress had an ERA of 5.95 last year (ERA+ 77).
The yankees averaged 6 runs per game last year.
So when facing a pitcher who averages giving up 6 runs a game faces an offense that scores 6 runs how likely is it that they get shut out?
The offense needs to perform. This isn’t only about the young pitchers not getting the job done.
Argh, Robbie gets robbed again.
this little left handed tandem between Cano and Giambi at the 6-7 is just plain god awful right now.
i think they were matsui is a spare part posts because obviously giambi is our everyday left handed slugger.
“haha sterling thought it was OUT again..thats 4 times already haha”
did he go into another one of those it is high, it is far…uh..
Speaking of acting like you’ve been there before, did you really think this wasn’t ever going to happen?
I can’t see trashing your team ever, but when your team is hitting the ball on the screws and the hits aren’t dropping in, it’s pathetic to dump on them for that!
The best sign of all is seeing them hitting the ball.
“this little left handed tandem between Cano and Giambi at the 6-7 is just plain god awful right now.”
except the difference is Robi is getting robbed, Jason can’t hit a beach ball right now.
wow giambi you took on a perfect pitch
Robby has at least been hitting the ball. It’s a matter of time before they start to drop in. I don’t think he’s looking lost at the plate.
That’s a positive AB from Jason.
And a Yankee fan gets Melky’s foul! That’s gotta be a good omen too.
Robbie has hit 2 balls well today, but the defense has done a good job at keeping him in check.
Haha, the O’s announcers were talking about Giambi breaking for second. What imaginations they have.
Trish,
If you are speaking of merely this game, then yes the Yankees have been hitting the ball on the screw and not getting lucky (matsui and cano in the 2nd, for ex) but as for the rest of the season, besides the occasional hit, it has been a barrage of ground outs and pop ups.
that is why everyone is concerned. we all know they will come out of it and will see the ball better, but at the end of april youd hope the kinks would have been out.
Back to the old tricks.
“3-2, that’s gonna release Giambi at first”
For a second I thought Kay was announcing that Giambi had been DFA’d while on base.
Melky K’s…but the Yanks do have a lead.
wow. A-Rod is now 2 for 36 this season with RISP.
Andy probably feels the urge to give the 2 runs back right now.
Kevin Millar, a.k.a. Manny Jr., with a 2-run HR.
How bout that inning? Back to back hits with RISP. i had to lie down.
For a second I thought Kay was announcing that Giambi had been DFA’d while on base.
That would have been interesting. Maybe they’d announce they picked up Thomas.
there you go Robi !
Dr. Cox I don’t know that I call it kinks as much as I think it is one of those droughts that you hope doesn’t happen, and when it does it can be really frustrating – especially to the players. It’s one thing when one or two players are playing with cold bats. But when the majority of the team is struggling what happens is the team mentality takes over where every player feels it is his personal responsibility to pick the team up so instead of being patient at the plate, a player presses. We all know what happens when a player presses!
I started to feel good when I saw some of the players at least hitting the ball because that is always a sure indication that it’s a matter of time.
I’m loving the quick outs Pettitte’s getting.
Save or non-save situation, Mo needs some work today. A long deserved day off tomorrow.
So what did Andy have for breakfast?
And where can I get some?
I really hope that Hughes and Kennedy are paying attention to Andy. This is how you pitch.
Alan Hornes dad is a frequent poster on NYYFANS he released an update on Alan the other night:
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“Alan’s re-hab is going about as expected at this point in time. They’re doing therapy treatments daily to the biceps, having him do shoulder, lower body, and cardio-workouts daily.
Don’t know for sure, it’s a possibility for him to throw Monday. You know, the doctors and head trainers are all off on the week-end….I assume they will evaluate everything Monday morning but we will be back on the road then and talk with Alan by phone later in the day. Keeping our fingers crossed that everything is healing in a timely fashion so that everything else falls into place as preferred. In Alan’s words, “we’ll see”.”
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and yes it is legit before anyone thinks it’s a lie.
At this rate, Andy will be the next Pope.
You are going really bad as a team offensively when Traschsel can strikeoutthis many guys with RISP.
Interesting news on Montero Pete. I see the logic of that move.
He’s going to be a special, special player.
I think Brad Suttle is on the DL right now. Hurt a quad a week or so ago.
I also agree on McCutcheon. If Horne is out another week or so, I would promote him to AAA and get him ready.
Then again, I’m not the GM. Just play one on the internet! lol
Andy-I freakin love you if you can keep this up. And for giving the Yanks the type of performance they have been craving all week. Please teach the kids. Thanks.
“Andy probably feels the urge to give the 2 runs back right now.”
Or not!
Let’s go Yankees!!
For all you sheffield fans.
He is goin to see the doctor for the shoulder he had sergury on. He says he might have came back too soon. That trade keeps looking better by the day. Picked up his option and dumped him on someone else for 3 young pitchers. WIN.WIN.
Sign CC Sabbathia to a $140M dollar 7 year deal in the off season
or
Bring back Andy on a 1 year $16 million dollar deal…
Damon was robbed there.
Andy has been fantabulous today
more runs would be nice
Are they booing Spike Lee for wearing #2?
Oh man. Millar robs Damon. Did the O’s have to break out their gloves today?
Actually I always thought Tracshel was a quality pitcher.
Johnny hitting the ball is a good sign, even thought it was right at someone.
Scouts still losing 0-2.
Millar’s eye black is ridiculous.
CB,
I go with B.
I’d bring Andy back. We know what we’re getting with him and I don’t trust CC’s physique. He’s a darn good pitch when he’s on form, but I’ll take ol’ reliable Andy, even if he is older.
Let’s go perfect game!!!
Spike Lee has to stop the bandwagon jumping, he upsets me as a Knicks fans w/ his defending of Isiah Thomas and basically feediing the true fans w/ hot garbage propaganda, now he’s showing up to Yankee games….figures
I’d prefer the latter if his elbow feels good. I’m not a big fan of paying someone like Sabathia $100M because I’m concerned about his long term health/weight.
That was my opinion before his 0-3, 13.50 ERA start to the season.
Besides, Andy’s much cheaper and you don’t know how long Sabathia is going to go. He’s got a lot of mileage on that arm…
CB, I would have to pick the latter. K totals aside I wouldn’t trust Sabathia to come in and do what Andy does when the Yankees need it most. Plus CC’s weight and conditioning – Andy may be the older of the 2 but he also takes way better care of himself. Although, w/all the $$ coming off the books couldnt the Yanks concievably do both? Not saying they should, but in general, would the luxury tax get any worse w/another identical contract for Andy plus a FA deal in the area of 5-7 yrs/$120-140 MM?
Of all people, Spike Lee is not a bandwagon jumper. The guy is a true NY’er. He’s been a Yanks and Knicks fan since he was born.
Bayron, COME ON!
I know most of us aren’t exactly happy with our offense but GET OFF ROBBIE’S BACK. I took a break from the blog for a little bit and I come back on and some of you people are still talking. The guys hitting the ball hard…RELAX. He’ll come around and get that average back up to where it should be. We all know what he can do so chill.
Sorry for going off like this but when it comes to Robbie, I’m a little well, yeah…..you guys got it..I think.
GO YANKEES!!!!
I don’t think CC is getting 7 years, even if he turns it around.
He won’t get more money or years than Santana.
I bring back Andy back, if he is healthy, no matter what.
CC? Ask me in August after we have seen how his season unfold.
I like to see how guys handle struggling. Everybody is great when things go your way. When you struggle? That’s when we find out if you have what it takes to handle the heat that comes with a long term deal.
IMO, the jury is out on CC. Gotta see more before you know what to do with him.
I’d rather the Yanks go and get a real first baseman like Texiera rather than them signing CC.
Amazing, IPK has 40 pitches after 3 outs, Andy has 40 after 13 outs.
Bite your tongue Bayron, haha. I hope your right though.
“Actually I always thought Tracshel was a quality pitcher.”
quality what ? who ? Steve Traschel ! I still have a friend who has nightmares about Traschel, the length of his games, the way the Mets needed to score 10 runs in order for him to get victories. Quality ? Trish please don’t do it..
I am not sold on Texiera yet, I think its cheaper just to stay with Shelly
I’d like to thank the good Lord for making Andy a Yankee
How much would Tex have to do for you to prove that’s he’s solid? Excellent defender and a great switch bat.
WAY TO GO, BAYRON.
I thought the Yankees would promote Montero to Tampa later on in the season.
If they truly keep him in Charleston all year then they are 100% committing his future to being a catcher.
Keeping him in low A would be primarily done to let his defensive skills develop behind the plate.
With some prospects you delay their progression to let their bats catch up to their gloves (alberto gonzalez).
With some it works in the opposite direction. With Montero that looks like what the yankees are wanting to do.
I like the idea of exhausting ever possible avenue of making him work as a catcher. I don’t doubt that his bat could move much more quickly and that his bat could play anywhere in terms of productivity.
But if Montero is able to stay behind the plate the yanee’s have a player of immense value – value that far outstrips his expected production because that production is coming from a backstop.
40 home runs from you first baseman is outstanding. 40 home runs from you catcher is other worldly. It gives you such a n enormous advantage over the opposition that it becomes a unique weapon.
The number of catching prospects/ catchers in the history of baseball who have had 80 power is very small. I like the idea of delaying his progression through the system to let his defense mature.
Oops!
“The guy is a true NY’er. He’s been a Yanks and Knicks fan since he was born.”
don’t even get me started w/ Spike, I’ve heard enough BS from the high reguarded Isiah Thomas defender. He is props, just the fact this guy went to LA to see a Lakers game w/ Kobe Bryant please man…nearly 2/3 this season he wasn’t at MSG
You know, I think hits like that should count as cheats.
Bah, what a cheapie to break up the no-no.
Argh. Bye-bye perfecto and no-no.
Argh! They get a hit on THAT?????
Oh well, now it’s just a great start, which was desperately needed.
Pettitte looking real good today. How about pitching a complete game and give the pen 2 days off?
Oh crud!
Bayron-you’re going to have a lot of people not liking you today.
In all seriousness, Bayron, that is a cardinal baseball rule. Even the fairest of the fairweather fans know about that.
As you could see, no one else on this blog was mentioning a perfect game, not one of us. But believe me, we were all thinking it. Next time, keep your mouth shut.
sorry, but I believe in some baseball traditions.
I guess I’ll settle for a shutout!
By the way, 5-0 Rangers on a 3-run homer by Milton Bradley.
There are some negatives to signing Teixeira. First of all Boras is his agent so we’d have to grossly overpay. Second, Shelley would almost never play. Since late last season my mantra has been that this team needs more Shelley, not less, and I’m sticking by that. Plus Tex would be blocking Jesus Montero, a biiig-time prospect, if he ends up moving to 1st.
I’m actually glad CC is starting off rough this year so as to bring his value down. I imagine he’ll get at least somewhat better but if he ends up w/below avg #s he can be had much cheaper.
Also, what does everyone think of signing AJ Burnett to an incentive laden deal if he opts out of his contract with Toronto? Since Riccardi basically called him a pansy when he was injured last yr you’d think he’d be dying for the chance to stick it to him. In many ways (for the right deal) I’d rather do that than Sabathia.
Thanks Bayron.
We finally get Michael Kay to a point where he keeps his fat mouth shut through five, and you have to scream it out.
Rangers 5-0.
I guess I’ll settle for a shutout!
Just quit while you’re ahead, okay?
It would be nice if the offense can give Andy some breathing room.
This isn’t exactly Josh Beckett on the mound for the Orioles.
Way to pitch around it Andy. Thanks Bayron.
I’d have to see Burnett pitch an entire year staying healthy to really give him consideration.
Dr. Cox, I couldn’t be more with you on that. Now Michael Kay will see that “it really didn’t matter” and go back to his old trick of speaking the words.
“Phil Hughes was given his card and loved his photo so much that he was showing everybody.”
You’re kidding, right?
we need to start making these pitchers that are bums look like world beaters…..and it starts RIGHT NOW !
Ok, this inning we knock out Trachsel
More runs boys…
If Montero is staying all year in the SAL, its pretty clear he isn’t changing positions.
If it was just about getting him to the majors as fast as possible, he would already be in Tampa and on the fast track for further promotions. They would also be giving him a first baseman’s glove and begin his tutorial.
From what I understand, he doesn’t have a first baseman’s glove. He is a catcher all the way right now.
Either way, his ascention won’t be blocked if they signed Tex.
It does seem the Yankees are committed to keeping him behind the plate.
SJ
Didn’t you know? When we got to town, the O’s traded Cabrera, Burres and Trachsel for Cy Young, Walter Johnson and Sandy Koufax.
Bayron, what the heck did you do that for?
You know, ‘perfect game’ should be one of those things that gets caught by the spam filter…
I think the Yankees might toy w/ the idea of Bobby being the leadoff batter if simply pathetic keeps getting outs
If you look up the word “mediocre” in the dictionary, you’ll see a photo of Steve Trachsel.
You know, ‘perfect game’ should be one of those things that gets caught by the spam filter…
Same with no-hitter. Tradition should be upheld.
Ok just got on…tried to read most of the comments.
A few things:
1) Its April freaking 20th. Giambi isn’t getting cut. Damon isn’t getting cut. People who suggest these ideas no nothing about baseball. That’s great the Jays cut Thomas. Do I want him on the team? No. Not a chance.
2) People want to replace Hughes, Kennedy, AND Mussina in the rotation. That’s great. Who do you put in there? Let’s go with Pettitte, Wang, Rasner, Igawa, and Marquez as our rotation. Will that make people happy? Some of the things suggested on this blog would lead you to believe these people have never watched a baseball game.
3) Everyone is so convinced the answers are in AAA. I’m not so sure. We saw Igawa dominate AAA last year and implode in the majors. Same with Rasner. There’s a reason its called AAA. Gardner isn’t going to hit .367 in the majors. He’s just not.
4) Its not even the end of April, our team hasn’t even had a day off and we’ve been on the road nonstop since the second week of the season. I think a .500 record in April, with all that’s gone on, plus the young pitching, I’ll take it.
5) Out of all the nonsense that has been suggested on this blog, the only move that makes any sort of sense right now would be to bring up Gardner. But you start him once or twice a week, use him to pinch run, maybe late in the game for defense.
6) Maybe Ensberg or Duncan take some playing time from Giambi. Maybe Damon becomes a part time player in June after 2 months of not performing. But all these drastic moves everyone wants to make are ridiculous. Does anyone remember last year?
Alex stop your making me nervous
Thanks SJ44, didn’t know that about Montero. That’s great news, his value is sky high as a catcher and especially if he can play defense! I take it this means his glove work is progressing well?
Please tell me I’m not seeing what I think I’m seeing.
miggs – read above and all of your points have been made ad nauseum.
oh oh
Oh man…please, A-Rod. Don’t be hurt.
Reading Pete’s comment about how Phil was so happy with his photo ID that he’s going around showing it to everyone makes me feel really good about him. He’s not acting as if he’s got the world on his shoulders; he’s acting like a kid – first with the hat machine, then this. That’s just good news; I would be worried if Phil was sort of depressed and nervous. I love his arm, of course, but I love his mentality even better. He’s just special and I think he’s going to be fine – he certainly thinks he will be and that’s what counts.
I’m hoping the change back to his old mechanics will help. I’m hardly an expert, but it was pretty foolish to change Phil’s delivery when (a) it worked for him and(b) it wasn’t the type of delivery where it could be expected to cause injuries down the line. Good for him if he’s going back to what feels natural to him.
Is Bayron a troll? His first post of the game mentions Andy’s perfecto?
I think I’ll do a little investigating in past threads. By the way, I am a pretty new poster so if you all know this is a legit poster and just a dimit this one time please let me know. Otherwise I will see what I can do about having Bayron forced to join the scouts’ forum.
Thanks.
A-Rod’s taken out.
F-word.
ARod coming out of the game with what looks like a strained quad?
In the immortal words of Dan Patrick:
“He’s day-to-day. We’re all day-to-day.”
Oh my God! This is just unbelievable.
why are they taking A Rod out?
A-rod wasn’t my fault!
“ARod coming out of the game with what looks like a strained quad?”
Based on what?
Maybe his wife went into labor? Please???
Nobody is saying Gardner is going to hit .367 in the majors.
Will he hit higher than .197 and steal bases, as a leadoff man should do? Yes.
Ugh, now Arod got hurt. Just what they need. A team with no offense now loses their best offensive player.
Not gettin’ easier this season, that’s for sure.
f%^&
Oh mother of crap.
I hope Alex is alright.
Rebecca, actually that’s a good idea and maybe we can ask Pete to see if he can help there (filtering the words). Sorry but you have to either be ten years old, or watching your first baseball game ever, or a troll AH to do what Bayron just did.
I’ve mentioned those words before the end of the fifth inning many times – when a damned opposing pitcher is on the mound!
Hey Trish, the other day you said you was my friend!
Time to bring back Babe Ruth, I mean Shelley Duncan to replace some of that offense if A-Rod is going to be out for a while.
it looks like he hurt an upper thigh muscle from pivoting in his swing
Maybe his wife called and is going into labor?
cano
I sure hope his wife is in labor…. otherwise we could have big problems.
whozat
He was stretching amd stretching his right leg while at 1st after pulling up a little lame running down the line. It looks like it’s in the quad area. It could just be a cramp, I’m just guessing based on the look.
He was stretching his legs and it looked like he was hurting a bit. They don’t want to risk him hurting whatever it is further, so they took him out. I don’t know if it was a quad or hammy, though.
Can someone who is watching let those of us who are not know what happened to Alex? This scares me.
Bayron, please. enough.
I hope Arod is okay, but the good news is that the team is hitting now and you know they will pick up for him.
just started watching the game and the first thing I see is A-rod being taken out. Hope he fine, guess it works out well though since he has a day off.
bases are loades…!
Giambi + bases loaded. Hm…
Leave Bayron alone…this is a blog, nothing more.
so im eating pizza for lunch and all of a sudden,I lost my appitite.
Hope that Alex is ok. Looked like he was trying to stretch his leg.
At least it is only one out, and Giambi isn’t a typical DP hitter.
Brandon,
Meant to say this before. Thanks for that update on Horne. I know his father has posted there before. I hope that it’s nothing unexpected but them just taking it slow. Jennings also said that he didn’t think it too out of the ordinary that he wasn’t throwing yet.
please giambi come through
Why would he stretch his quad on first base if his wife was in labor???
He is definatly hurt.
You know, if Giambi doesn’t turn into a double play here, I’ll be happy.
We are going to knock the pitcher out this inning.
Thanks to all for reading my mind!
Steph
When someone strains a hammy, they do the deep one knee bend type of stretch. The muscle ARod was trying to stretch was his quad. Could be a cramp, could be a strain but it’s the quad.
baby time for a-Rod? ? ?????????????????
Motown, he was about 3/4 of the way down to 1st and kind of pulled up, and when he was getting his lead he was really trying to stretch it out and pulled himself from the game.
“so im eating pizza for lunch and all of a sudden,I lost my appitite.”
The pizza was that bad?!
Nice rebecca.
Sorry.
A-Rod was already going to fly to Florida tonight to be with his wife.
Geezus Giambi! PLEASE STOP PULLING THE BAD-WORD BALL!
wow Giambi….. all I can say is “WOW”
Giambi with a terrible at bat. He is really slumping.
Hey, I have no sound today b/c of Pesach so as soon as someone hears an update from YES or WCBS on A-Rod’s injury, can you please post it?
Bloody. @#@#@#@#
WHY. The. HECK. are we playing Giambi?!
That was our inning. Melky up, Moeller up, we score. Giambi?
Dang I am frustrated.
I’m sorry, but they have to sit Giambi. He is useless.
Drew
He didn’t pull himself out. Girardi and the trainer pulled were there and pulled him out.
of course..a gidp..wow..
Hey…maybe I am missing something…but why hasn’t Girardi straightened out the rotation so that it is…
1.)Wang
2.)Pettitte
3.)Mussina
4.)Phil Hughes
5.)Ian Kennedy
And not…
1.)Wang
2.)Mussina
3.)Phil Hughes
4.)Ian Kennedy
5.)Andy Pettitte
I mean skip a start, bring up a young guy, do something so that you have Wang and Pettite back to back…in that specific order…And if you really wanted to help things why wouldn’t you split Hughes/IPK up with Mussina?
Will someone explain to me why this has yet to happen? I am sorry, Andy Pettitte is not a five starter. I am sick of it.
I mean I know Wang and Pettitte are going back to back…just not in the right order…
Ah, thanks. I couldn’t tell what types of stretches he was doing because MLB.tv decided to buffer the stream and it started to foul up when they moved the camera over to first. I did see Alex cringe, so I’m hoping it’s just a cramp.
i would’ve bet my house that giambi would hit into a double play. And i would also bet my house big head kay comment on how that missed opportunity can come back to bite the yankees
Grrrrrr Giambi….
A-rod might just be a dog bite! In other words a cramp in his leg!
We need a bring back Shelley chant.
I hate Giambi with a fervor right now.
And I am freaking out about A-Rod. Is it definitely his quad? How serious is that, in the grand scheme of seriousness?
Trisha no offense but didn’t you have your “secret” positive forum/blog that you started going to? All of a sudden you’re back here spewing nonsense again.
of course, a double play…
There you go Trish! You jinxed Giambi into a double play!
You are missing something. They haven’t had an off day yet to be able to do that.
“He was stretching amd stretching his right leg while at 1st after pulling up a little lame running down the line.”
Well crap.
Also, Jason…boo. Outside, 85 MPH fastball…you HAVE to poke that the other way. Terrible. Just terrible.
Really, Jason? Even I could stand up there and strike out–a strikeout would have been preferable here. Bases loaded, one out…
Poor Andy. He can’t buy support.
I think it’s about time Shelley Duncan got a call up to replace the horror that is Giambi.
The Bronx Stop-Girardi has mentioned that he was going to shift the rotation to put Andy between Hughes and Kennedy. You don’t want Wang to go 1-2 right now because you can’t really rely on Moose, Hughes, and Kennedy for depth right now. We need a horse down there to help out if the bullpen is taxed.
“Geezus Giambi! PLEASE STOP PULLING THE BAD-WORD BALL!”
Apparently, this is easier said than done. Perhaps it’s too much for us to expect a guy who has been pulling the ball for 2 decades to all of a sudden be able to hit the ball the other way.
“baby time for a-Rod? ? ?????????????????”
that would be best case scenerio, but I don’t see that being the reason.
Rebecca is to blame for giamgy double play.
The nightmare that is Jason Giambi’s daily presence in this lineup continues…..
If he can’t lift the ball on Steve Trachsel, you can’t play the guy anymore after today.
Doing what he does best…..killing a rally.
2-0 game and we can’t even replace the guy for defensive purposes because they have no defensive first baseman on the roster.
So, let me get this straight…..
205 million dollar payroll. They do not have a first baseman on the roster.
Their first baseman, who can’t play first, is now hitting under .140. They can’t take him out of the lineup.
They have got to fix this roster. If not, the criticism people are giving them is 100% warranted.
Abraham Almonte 2 straight days w/ a HR for Charleston counting today
The Yankees have already decided to adjust the rotation, after the off day. Read Pete’s articles.
Scott, your right but I’m guessing if he told them he was fine he would have stayed in.
BRING BACK SHEL-LEY!! (clap, clap clap clap clap)
This should be Giambi’s last day as a starter. Seriously. Bases loaded, chance to break the game open if he changes his approach back to what he was doing during spring. Instead, he rolls over another pitch to 2nd base for a GIDP.
Get Duncan back here. To the bench with you, Giambi!
Westerner…could you find the link!?
Frank Thomas was released by the blue jays?
“I mean I know Wang and Pettitte are going back to back…just not in the right order…”
What difference does the order make? They’re going to reshuffle with the off day tomorrow. They haven’t had a day off, you can’t just “bring up a young guy” without sending someone down…they’ve needed to make a litany of other roster moves for injury and such. You’d need someone who’s on the 40-man, and that’s an issue in and of itself.
Someone needs to tell Jason Grimsley.. Oops i meant Jason Giambi to hit the bench cause he’s a automatic out..
Giambi! I HATE YOU!!!!
Giambi makes me so mad..
**sigh** whatever
Let’s go Andy!
Look, I dont believe in organized religion but I obviously respect those who do.
Maybe Pope trip will bring us some luck.
EDIT: As i write this Giambi once again tries to lose this game.
The sad thing is, Giambi missed a hit by a couple feet on the first pitch of that AB. UGH.
Although there’s no evidence to back it up, I think Giambi is going to turn it around and at least approach tolerable mediocrity.
I typed the above just before that throwing ‘error’.
UGH again.
Is Giambi now the worst player in the majors? Even the blue jays were smart enough to know when to cut ties with a has been (Frank Thomas). Its bad enough the Yankees are paying Giambi $20MM per year. salt is the wounds is that they are actually playig him. I wish he would just get hurt so the yankees could file and insurance claim and save the $20MM.
“Grrrrrr Giambi….”
yup..
Giambi can’t throw either.
Need I say more.
DFA him and be done with it.
He is an absolute nightmare as a baseball player.
Giambi is cursed by the Baseball Gods for using steroids… Just like Bonds, Clemens, – those who abused their talent with artificial substances…
See, nice throw, hack.
Wow, Jason. Just wow.
Ok, if that doesn’t get Girardi to make a change at first, I don’t know what will.
Giambi throws the ball into LF on a pickoff play 10 minutes after GIDP with the bases loaded.
He doesn’t field well enough to be an awful hitter
He doesn’t hit well enough to be an awful fielder
GET HIM ON THE BENCH!
What was that, Giambi?
Yeah, Thomas was released.
wow giambi is horrible
Why do we keep these guys who can’t help us. like Giambi,Fransworth,LaTroy,Mussina who are only here because of there contracts.
Next year we get to rid ourselves of all these dead weights.And get Tex,and CC.
Giambi might singlehandedly lose us this game. If I am Pettitte I have no love.
Shutout still alive!!!
HE GETTING PAID 20 MILLION FOR BEING AN AUTOMATIC OUT.. HE PLAYING WORSE THAN A GIRLS HIGHSCHOOL SOFTBALL TEAM……
I HOPE HE GETS BOOED AS LOUD AS HAWKINS WHEN WE GO BACK TO YS.
cmon andy!!
Hey guys what do you think of putting Ohlendorf in the rotation? He was a starter at Princeton and in the minors up until last year and he has great movement on his pitches. It shouldn’t take him long to pick up his stamina considering he’s been pitching 3 innings at a time anyway.
Bayron-please. Be quiet.
If the Yankees keep playing Giambi at first, they don’t really want to win. Why would you keep playing a guy that is hurting you both offensively and defensively? This is just ridiculous!!
Man…I haven’t been able to see a lot of these games recently, but I’ve seen just so much poor play in the field. Is it an unfortunate sample size, or is this team really doing a lot of things poorly in the field? Maybe the off day will let them clear their heads, I dunno…but it seems like there’s been some shoddy play in the field that’d enhanced some of the starting pitching woes.
Giambi is killing this team right now offensively and defensively.
Giambi is the only ball player that could make Dave Kingman wince.
darn skippy Andy !
However, I have plenty of love for Andy.
thank god for Pettitte.
Thank God for Andy.
JASON GRIMSLEY…… OOPS i meant JASON GIAMBI
needs to find a new Profession soon.
“Hey guys what do you think of putting Ohlendorf in the rotation? He was a starter at Princeton and in the minors up until last year and he has great movement on his pitches.”
There’s a reason he was moved to the pen. It’s not like Joba, where they were trying to control his innings…it’s because he was bad as a starter. So…No.
NICE K!!!! Yeah ANDY!!
Andy is the MAN!!! What a job after some shoddy defense got him in a jam.
Nah, Ohlendorf didn’t fare too well as a starter when he was in AAA after he came back from an injury. That’s why the Yanks put him in the pen. Then he picked up a few MPH on his pitches and they realized they had something good going on with the kid. He should stay in the pen and serve as a long man…especially considering how things are going with the kids.
Pettitte-you’re the man.
Andy Pettitte= an absolute warrior. There is nothing else to say!
Let me get this straight…..
He hits .130.
He can’t catch and he can’t throw.
Yet, he is the starting first baseman for the New York Yankees?
No words can describe the logic of that. None.
I don’t care if you are a family member of Jason Giambi, he can no longer play first base for this team.
He shouldn’t even be ON the team. That’s a seperate issue.
But, playing EVERYDAY at first base?
Please Cash, for the love of God, just go get Minky out of Pittsburgh and get Giambi off this team.
If you don’t, he’s going to cost you your job.
Great job Andy! No thanks to steroid boy. grrr
Can we get some more runs now?
The Yankees desperately need Duncan’s enthusiasm and his bat. Play him at first every day and see what he can do. Everyone knows this was a lifeless, aging team the last two to three years before the emergence of first Cano,then Melky, then Duncan. As for Giambi, I recently watched Game Five of the 2001 ALDS when Giambi was with the A’s. I believe he was 4-for-4 in that game and it was only because the Yanks couldn’t play the shift on him. Two of his hits in that game would have been outs with the current shift used against him. He needs to go back to the straightaway and left center power he showed with the A’s.
Call me crazy, but I’m not feeling a lot of love for Giambi on the board today.
I was just having a conversation with a guy i talk baseball with a lot on AIM about the Jays releasing Frank Thomas and eating the remaining money on his deal. So i started talking about how the Yankees need to follow their lead and do the same to Giambi. during the discussion, Giambi fortified my argument twice by grounding into a DP with 1 out and the bases loaded, then by throwing a pickoff throw into left field.
Nice outing for Andy so far. He’s only really had to “labor” in 2 innings and didn’t allow a run in either one. He’s the man.
“JASON GIAMBI needs to find a new Profession soon.”
Ya know – I can see him doing those ‘Procede’ commercials with Giuseppe Franco.
Is there a way we can somehow get Mike Timlin to pitch for every team we play? How else is Giambi going to get a hit?
I like Giambi’s GIDPs. Remember the talk of Giambi being decent this year and the Yankees maybe picking up his option? They serve as a constant reminder NOT to pick up his $22 million option.
Man…the Yanks have to bench Giambi. Play Ensberg at first. Play Gonzalez there. I don’t care. He’s really hurting the team right now.
Ohlendorf is going to be special in the SU role for this team..he won’t be as great as Joba, but he will get the ball to Mo more times than not.
I’ll take Mientkiewicz. I love that guy.
“Trisha no offense but didn’t you have your “secret†positive forum/blog that you started going to? All of a sudden you’re back here spewing nonsense again.”
miggs lol. It incredible what no offense and with all due respect allows us to say.
Arod owes me a Pizza.
Anybody in life who competes in anything, particularly the Yankees’ young pitchers, should take a page or two out of Andy’s book. He’s so tough with men on base, I absolutely love it, and him.
Ian kennedy or phil hughes would of gave up a big hit in that spot. Got job Pettite.
I agree with SJ 100%
Time to separate the men from the boys! Trachsel has been in there to long!
Guys please Giambi sucks but lets not forget he isn’t the only HGH guy playing today.
ABSOLUTELY!
Please DFA this overweight, overpaid, overrated HAS BEEN, Giambi!
Its bad enough he can’t hit, can’t run, and can’t throw, but he can no longer even get on base!
I THINK Jason Giambi needs to pay a visit to “MAX”
My patience is done with guys like Giambi.
It really is.
If money is the issue, then the Yankees should just tell everybody and we don’t have to discuss it ad nauseum anymore.
You can’t have that guy playing first base anymore. Not if you are interested in winning games.
Taking walks? What good does that do? He can’t run!
22 million bucks for a guy who is “taking his walks”.
Absolutely crazy.
And what nonsense is that multiple Miggs? The same “nonsense” everyone else brought up already? Enlighten me.
It has been enjoyable to be here, and even more enjoyable since I have several forums I can be at. The Yankees are winning, and when the Yankees are winning this is a fun place to be.
So what’s your whine?
Giambi is done on both sides. Carve him up and send him on his way. Bring up shelley and play him. you pay him hardly nothing so what is the cost to the yankees. this is so depressing watching giambi. if he had any pride he would quit.
The Yanks could DFA Giambi and try to sign Thomas. Thomas hits and he wouldn’t hurt us defensively. Then again, I’m sure he wants to go somewhere that he can get time to play DH everyday.
A common refrain earlier in the spring was that Giambi’s high OPS was going to more than make up for any of his defensive deficiencies at first, particularly because first base defense isn’t that important.
But Giambi is a horrendous defensive player – not just bad. Horrendous.
It’s very possible that Giambi could be 25 to 30 runs worse than an average fielding first baseman this year if he were to play every day.
That is almost unfathomable that a first baseman could give up that many runs because the position isn’t that important defensively. How many mistakes can you possibly make?
But that’s how bad Giambi is in the field.
One thing is for certain – he cannot throw the ball at all. Not at all. And he has no confidence in throwing the ball at all.
That is the second major throwing related mistake he’s made in this series.
Man on first on a tough play to Jeter. Pettite picks up the team with yet another pick off – and Giambi completely blows the play.
I bring up his defense and how bad it is because for Giambi’s value to be equal an even average AL first baseman his offensive production must be fantastic. He would need an OPS of .900 to make up for his awful defense. If he’s only an .800 OPS player he would actually be worse than an average first baseman.
Right now his negative impact on this team is much, much larger than his terrible bat even shows. If he’s not producing a lot of runs at the plate his glove makes him a huge negative force on this team.
So the issue of Giambi isn’t even hitting well – he must be outstanding to even make him an overall above average value first baseman.
No hit Moeller has done it again!
what the hell did Long tell this guy
I am very surprised.
There are people who still think Giambi is in slumping.
Giambi is not the guy we saw before.
I also think that he should be better than now.
However, the range of increasing is not big.
Now, his value is good only for platoon spot.
He is not “BIG G”.
He is just Giambi.
Nice Chad!
Maybe Moeller should play 1B, at least in the short term.
Its too bad the Yanks are going to have to let Moeller go after Posada’s shoulder is fully healed… he’s going to get scooped off waivers in a heartbeat. No way he clears and gets back to Scranton.
The ironic part about the whole Frank Thomas thing is I actually think he has more left in his bat than Giambi does. Although he’s such a liability on the basepaths that whatever hits he does get probably arent worth it.
I wouldnt necessarily oppose the Yanks doing the same with Giambi, but he is owed a lot more $$ than Thomas, isnt he? I think he’s gonna have to get more of a chance because of that, especially since he is still walking and driving the ball some, but hopefully he will at least get benched beginning Tues.
shelleys swinging a hot bat, giambi stinks. ifso facto, bring shelley up to first. send giambi to japan
Pete loves Doug Mzxcvzv. Doug Scrabble sucks. The Yanks started playing better when he went on the DL last year. The dude has NO upside.
No, Steph. We don’t need Thomas. We have plenty of DH candidates. With Damon in LF, we have Matsui as DH. Posada is banged up so he can DH as well. Shelley Duncan is a DH candidate as well.
What we need is a legitimate first basemen. If Brian Cashman, is smart, he is on the phone right now with PIT trying to get Minky back. Offer them anything, just get us someone who can freakin’ catch the ball and throw it to another human being!!!
“Apparently, this is easier said than done. Perhaps it’s too much for us to expect a guy who has been pulling the ball for 2 decades to all of a sudden be able to hit the ball the other way.”
I think he hit to all fields when he was with oakland. He admits that he doesnt do batting practice in Yankee stadium because of the short left porch. Maybe he should.
Giambi’s not being paid to “walk.” Leadoff hitters get paid to “walk.” Guys hitting sixth or seventh in the order don’t get paid to “walk.” Normally it’s irrational to call for a player to be benched or released, but in this case, calling for the benching of Giambi is perfectly logical and rational.
Now 5-2 in Boston, Little Papi got an RBI single to raise his average to .149.
It’s great what moeller is doing, but let’s not get sold so quickly. He is not an everyday player. Just like miguel cairo was not one last year. Everyone will have a good week or two, but to sustain it for a whole season is what separates a starter from a bench player.
the way I see, the money shouldn’t be an excuse. If the blue jays feel they can afford to eat the remainder of Thomas’ contract, the Yankees can eat Giambi’s too.
I know that they’ve got plenty of DH candidates. I don’t think the Yanks would get Thomas in the first place, but I was just saying he’d be a better option than Giambi.
Damon wakes up!
Johnny on the spot
“Pete loves Doug Mzxcvzv. Doug Scrabble sucks. The Yanks started playing better when he went on the DL last year. The dude has NO upside.”
I think you’ve missed some games last year. Minky made great stops at first base on a regular basis. He was also very good at digging balls out of the dirt. More importantly, he can throw to 2B without sending the ball into left.
I still say that was a lucky swing !
That’s Damon speak for “Hey, stop talking about me like I’m Jason Giambi!”
A matter of time.
Damon still sucks. He doesn’t suck as much as Giambi, but he sucks nonetheless.
Ok, I can now take Johnnys shirt down from my door hanger, Giambi’s shirt is still there though.
2-run homer by Damon! 4-0 Yanks.
Is it too early to discuss retiring Chad’s number?
Johnny Damon- where has THAT been? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, great play by Jones there. That’s a web gem for sure.
Damon is at least trying.
And Jeter was robbed if there was every one.
Oh, hey Johnny.
nice hit!
WWJD
YEAH JOHNNY!!!!!! Helping the Yanks and my fantasy team in 1 swing!
I thought it was weird that they were bringing in a righty to face him, glad he took advantage. He may be starting horrendously slow but no way is he in the same useless category as Giambi.
Miggs – I just had the same thought. It’s great for Moeller, because he gets to play, but we’d lose a good catcher. Ironic, after all the seasons we went looking for a backup for Jorge.
Not meaning tp pile on Jason, but we need to get him out of the lineup. Whether it’s Minky, Shelley or Morgan Ensberg. His 26M payout is another issue. But we need to get him out of the lineup.
P.S. Maybe Johnny has been reading the blog between innings. It’s about time!
Without steroids Giambi is probably a journeyman today. He’s not that talented. When he was younger it was all about home-runs and high batting average. Now that he’s old and off the juice he’s average.
What must Shelley Duncan be thinking as he talks daily to teammates on his cellphone and reads boxscores showing Giambi’s horrific .111 batting average and no run production ?
The best thing that could happen to this team is to get the green light from the Steinbrenners to DFA Giambi. Shockwaves ? It would serve the team well. No tears would be shed. It could also serve notice on Damon and Mussina that they could be next.
Betimet for Mientkououoljlksjich?
Bench Giambi, Bring Up shelly, matsui DH, Damon stays in left is my vote.
wow, that adam jones kid is an awesome fielder
didn’t wanna see that, but that was a really nice catch.
Here’s my issue. You have to have a REAL first baseman on this team.
This is the NEW YORK YANKEES. Geez, even the Florida Marlins, a team with a 20 million dollar payroll, has a first baseman on the roster.
This team may not score 900 runs this year. Meaning that in close games, you have to pay attention to defense.
How can the Yankees sell to anybody with even a minute amount of baseball intelligence that you can get by with that guy, and the rest of the crew, at first base.
Johnny Damon woke up for one AB. That’s nice.
Now, what do you do defensively to hold this lead the rest of the way at first base? That’s right, they have Giambi still in the game because they have no other options.
The roster is a mess and it needs to be cleaned up. No excuses, no BS. You can’t win with a roster full of DH’s.
By “win”, I don’t mean playing .500 baseball. I mean being a playoff contender.
Few hours late…but to be fair, Gardner detractors were mainly about wait and see with him; see if his improvement’s just a hot streak or for real
The better Gardner does, well, the better the options are for the Yankees, after all
Trisha its very simple.
You make comments that have absolutely no validity. I think your baseball knowledge is minimal. I’m not going to go into every single example, that would take hours. But I’ll give you one…
“At least it is only one out, and Giambi isn’t a typical DP hitter.”
OK where do I start here? Giambi is slow. He constantly tries to hit into the shift. He’s in a horrible slump. What exactly is a “typical DP hitter”. If anyone is a candidate for a DP in a critical situation, its Giambi. There is absolutely NOTHING you can tell me to change my mind.
Maybe if you backed up your absurd comments by some sort of fact, stat, anything….
But you just post dumb comments. Its like you’ve never watched a Yankees game before.
Sorry for being so harsh. Its just annoying.
Damn. The Yankees should send a memo to the rest of the AL that says “don’t hit balls within a 50 foot radius of Adam Jones”
Jason Giambi needs to pay a visit to “MAX†SOON
I would go nuts if they dont bring shelly up after his required down time in the minors has expired. Anybody knows when that expires?
And Jones with another great play. I remember him botching it up in A-ball with the Mariners at shortstop. He reminded me of Soriano-excellent hitter but not a person who should play the infield. Now he’s an outfielder and he’s tearing it up.
“Now that he’s old and off the juice he’s average.”
Actually, he’s below average.
“Its too bad the Yanks are going to have to let Moeller go after Posada’s shoulder is fully healed… he’s going to get scooped off waivers in a heartbeat.”
When veterans like Moeller sign AAA contracts teams often negotiate an option into the contract.
If there is an option in the contract then the yankees could send moeller back to AAA without clearing him through waivers.
I don’t know if that’s the case. But that’s often how those kinds of contracts are structured. For instance, in the past when the yankees brought up Nick Green they sent him back to AAA without clearing waivers.
Shelly must be thinking, “Wow, Giambi makes so much money he has to play!” Poderoso Caballero es Don Dinero!
Laura
Players need to be able to hit and field. If they can’t do one, they better really excel at the other. Giambi of 2001 was an example of excelling at hitting. Minky is an example of the opposite.
Giambi 2008 can’t hit AND can’t field. And he can’t do those things at the low, low price of #20,000,000 or so.
He’s shot as a player and needs to be benched.
Giambi for Ortiz.
Trade Damon while his stock is high!!
Uh oh. A-Rod has the same injury as Jeter. Major bummer.
bphill i agree with you but i would add bring up gardner to center and move melky to left. put damon on the bench
suzyn says that arod has a strained right quad
Damon is a heck of a player, he plays a very good left field as far as I am concerned, and he plays harder than most people in the game. And I think he is as good a bet for leadoff as anyone playing for the Yanks. Of course the fact that he is under contract is also persuasive in terms of playing him. Damon is a veteran. I can’t be worried about his production when he hasn’t been so much worse than most of the team. I know he’ll heat up. In fact he already has. It starts with hitting the ball, which he has been doing. It is followed by having the ball drop or fly over, which it did both today.
Check the top of this game thread…Damon is out for Gardner, effective immediately!
SJ44
Mark Tex is less than a year away
It looked like Cano was moving in slow motion on that play.
Scott, I’ve been saying that all day. Is your post your way of saying that you agree with me? LOL!
Well, umm, at least Morgan Ensberg will get soe more playing time?
By the way, in that Game Five of the 2001 ALDS I referred to earlier, Giambi, was, of course, at first base for the A’s. He threw a ball away on a pickoff move and early dropped a throw at first base. Both were key miscues that allowed the Yanks to advance. It was more than wishful thinking on Girardi’s part that Giambi could simply by losing weight become a good fielding first baseman. I hope the miserable roster configuration decisions made by Girardi and the Yanks’ brass (no long man, no good fielding utility player, no speed off the bench) are not indicative of what is to come…
Joba starting to stretch!
right quad left quad , damn Jetes and Alex are always connected some way
A strained quad? Oh boy. Hopefully he just needs some rest. He’s got a day off tomorrow. It’d be horrible if he goes down as long as Jeter.
If there is such a thing, this is a perfectly-timed injury, since Alex would likely miss games this week for the delivery anyway.
“Now that he’s old and off the juice he’s average.”
Not necessarily. Wasn’t it reported that Tex is happy in ATL? He might not want to come to the bright lights of NYC. He’s be crazy not to want to be a Yankee, but it has happened before.
Any word about A-Rod?
Sorry. My copy and paste messed up on my Mark Texeira post.
Im still optimistic about this season, even with all the troubles and injuries.
Today is a perfect day to quote the immortal, and yes I said immortal, (at one time he was amazing) Dave Matthews:
“Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes, but i’ll work it out…”
quad strain KS, I doubt it’ll be long, but a few days wouldn’t hurt.
Do right quads heal faster than left ones?
Guess Ensberg will be getting some playing time this week. There is an article on the Yankees site about Ensberg getting playing time this week for Alex because of the baby’s birth.
Kill Schill(ing):
How can you not watch the game and listen to it but can use the computer and the internet?
A-rod got a pitbull bite on his right quad. One week out, might as well go have a baby!
OK, how the heck did Giambi rake so much in Spring Training? Was that just the inverse of pitchers looking awful in ST and then opening up the season strongly? Warm weather? Proximity to the Fountain of Youth?
“It looked like Cano was moving in slow motion on that play.”
The extra base Millar took on that base is squarely on Damon.
How awful was that throw? He’s in short left field and can’t get the ball to second base on a line? That ball bounced just as it got to the infield and it was that terribly weak throw that allowed Millar to get into base safely.
That was all the throw.
by the way, why do they play that song, for 7th inning stretch?
strange.
I worked with Texeira’s sister from 2000-2001, right when he was drafted. (We kept hitting refresh online to get the results.) He grew up a huge Orioles fan and has talked with his sister about playing in Camden Yards.
never mind. May be for, millar.
“suzyn says that arod has a strained right quad”
Its about the time of the year we fire the Strength and conditioning coach.
Jeter and Arod?
Giambi should be in the stands selling beer.
Now back to baseball……
Damon hit one out, gotta love that.
I love Pettitte’s approach today…. first pitch strikes, aggressive. He knows the bullpen is beat up. He’s not nibbling. He’s a true veteran who gives the team what they need the majority of the time. A guy like this is invaluable. If he wants to pitch next year the Yankees brass shouldn’t even hesitate for a second. Sign him immediately. Again, he’ll only want a one year contract. Its a short commitment. And what he gives the team cannot be measured in dollar signs OR simply wins and losses.
Or deodorant
Shut out still alive to get back at them for yesterday!
I never said I was observant, I’m actually not even a Jew, by birth. My mother was born a Protestant.
I’m staying with people for the holiday however, who are observant Jews. Thank god for the Crack Berry.
1 out. let’s just throw a complete 7 Andy. 2 outs now. Joba in the 8th, Mo in the 9th… good game, aside from Giambi being Giambi and A-Rod getting hurt.
“Geez, even the Florida Marlins, a team with a 20 million dollar payroll, has a first baseman on the roster”
…A first baseman who led all of MLB in HR last I looked, no less. Stuff like that just illustrates how much the overpaid waste of a roster spot that is Giambi really hurts this team. We couldn’t even acquire an interesting guy like Mike Jacobs in a trade if we wanted to cause we have nowhere to put him, Giambi is wasting a roster spot.
For at least the past 6 months I have been planning a huge party the day the Yankees are finally free of his and Pavano’s contracts.
Westerner, I know he was an Orioles fan. I’m pretty sure I remember hearing about him being a big fan of Mattingly though and when he first played against the Yankees that is who he wanted to meet when Mattingly was on the staff.
Miggs, no need to apologize any more than I will apologize that your opinion means nothing to me.
Someone who isn’t a typical DP hitter is someone who doesn’t typically hit into double plays. So someone who takes a lot of pitches and tends to hit the ball deep when he makes contact is someone who doesn’t typically ground into a double play.
P.S. I’m not going to spout stats during a game anymore than I expect anyone else to.
I find you over the top and oppressive by the way but that doesn’t ruin my enjoyment. I just ignore you. Here’s a clue. Do the same with me instead of wetting your pants over posts.
Oh miggs, now I remember. You’re still smarting over the conversation where I said Wang was inconsistent!
TOO FUNNY!
Pettitte is amazing. Enough said.
Damon has beefed up his average to a whopping .215 and ahead of Giambi’s .111 average.
“How awful was that throw? He’s in short left field and can’t get the ball to second base on a line? That ball bounced just as it got to the infield and it was that terribly weak throw that allowed Millar to get into base safely.
That was all the throw.”
Micheal Kay said it was a nice hard throw
Alex is officially day to day. He was probably going to miss a game or two anyway. Hopefully he can be back for Cleveland.
The strength and conditioning coach and freak is Girardi.
Meanwhile, back in Baltimore, Andy’s the man!! He’s been pitching so well I completely forgot to click over to the NBA playoffs! (ahem, Go Nuggets!)
Yes, he had posters of Mattingly, Thomas, and Cal Ripken Jr. on his walls….and a Ken Griffey, Jr. rookie baseball card as his prize possession.
Tex wears number 23 to honor Mattingly.
With A-Rod, injuries seem to heal quick than with most. Remember that ankle he twisted last year. He was supposed to miss a week.
The very next game the Yankees DH’d him in the game against Seattle and he hit two home runs in one inning.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see him back in the lineup on Wednesday, if the weather isn’t inclement.
Great job outta Andy!
I’m glad everyone is starting to see the light. I told you guys over a week ago to dump Betemit for Minky…back when I was posting as Mr. Mientkiewicz…I had to stop using that name.
Andy gave them exactly what they needed. I hope Hughes and Kennedy were paying attention.
Laura
Yes, that is my roundabout way of saying I agreed with you on Giambi LOL!
“worked with Texeira’s sister from 2000-2001, right when he was drafted. (We kept hitting refresh online to get the results.) He grew up a huge Orioles fan and has talked with his sister about playing in Camden Yards”
good. Maybe he will play for the orioles. NYY does not need to give out any more player-for-life, contracts.
Abraham Almonte just hit a 3 run shot that 3 HR in the last 2 days for Almonte, 2 today
Texeira’s favorite basketball players growing up was….Michael Jordan.
Joba’s going to pitch an inning or two today and then people are going to say he’s invaluable out of the pen, has to stay there, and can’t be replaced.
20 games into the season Joba’s thrown 6 innings from the pen.
Dr. Cox, I agree with you about the season. Nothing that has happened has changed my mind about that. A marathon and not a sprint.
5-3 Texas, runner on 2nd, 2 out bottom of the 8th, F’ORTIZ (fat ortiz) at bat.
“Someone who isn’t a typical DP hitter is someone who doesn’t typically hit into double plays. So someone who takes a lot of pitches and tends to hit the ball deep when he makes contact is someone who doesn’t typically ground into a double play.”
What is this based on? Give me something. Anything. Its just a stupid comment.
He typically hits the ball deep?
Most of what I’ve seen this year has been Ks and grounders into the shift. Not sure what team you’re watching.
Great shot of Girardi saying something to IPK on Yanks Yanks that left Kennedy with a big smile.
It’s a long season folks.
Good thing about tomorrow being an off day is that Girardi likely will split up the Hughes/Kennedy pitching tandem.
Hey Trish, are you watching the Yanks or the Bosox?
Anybody just see on TV that someone came out and got Girardi and he left the dugout?
You’d think A-Rod would be back in pretty soon based on how he feels and how he seems the heal quickly, but so far Girardi strikes me as a guy who doesn’t want to risk a thing. He wouldn’t let Jeter play for 3 damn days when Jeter was saying he could go. and god knows when Jorge will every catch again.
Joba time!
By the way if Minky comes back it will work nicely number wise. Ensberg can have 14 and Dougie will get the 11 he was wearing last year. See, it all works out…
The ying and yang of Cash as a GM.
The toughest thing to do in baseball today, aside from finding a good, lefthanded pitching prospect, is finding a backup catcher.
Cash didn’t find one. He found two. Molina last year Moeller this year.
That’s not good GM work. That’s GREAT GM work.
That’s the ying.
The yang? How can you put your trust in Jason Giambi and not have a competent backup first baseman in tow?
That’s not good.
Its only April and it can be rectified. Just gotta do it now.
We have seen enough of Giambi at first to last 3 lifetimes.
He is done. Cooked. Finished. He can’t play anymore.
This isn’t a slump. This is who he is as a player today.
He could get “hot” and hit .200 and would have to hit about .350 in the next couple of weeks to do so.
Does anybody think that’s going happen?
Use the off day to send him back to Vegas, callup Shelley Duncan, and work the phones to get Minky back for insurance.
At this point, April or not, there is no logical baseball reason for Giambi to play another inning as the first baseman of this team.
After today, every game he plays, its on the Yankees. Its not on the player.
Can’t put that guy in a position to cost you games anymore.
Bayron, both.
Damn, F’Ortiz “hustled” to first.
I thought he was out.
5-4.
Joba’s in. Fantastic outing by Pettitte.
Peter, you need to start paying attention to Abraham Almonte, the 18 year old centerfielder of the Riverdogs. He hit two home runs today after hitting a Hr last night.
Game over!!! We win!!! Go Joba!!!
JOBA!!!!!!!!
Just watched a bit of Braves v Dodgers game and Torre walked a guy that loaded bases and it paid off with help by an outstanding play by right fielder… the Dodgers sure got some real fine young players…
Don’t look now, but it’s 5-4 in Boston with Papi on 1st, 2 out, bottom 8th.
Bayron I have ExtraInnings, but I also live in the beantown market so get NESN as a matter of course. I always watch the Yankee games, but I will switch to check out the scouts and try to give them bad luck!
SJ,
You need to relax, this team will be fine. Which guy are you? The one who has been saying it’s early for the past few weeks or deemed the Yanks done last year in May or both?
“Damon is a heck of a player, he plays a very good left field as far as I am concerned, and he plays harder than most people in the game. And I think he is as good a bet for leadoff as anyone playing for the Yanks. Of course the fact that he is under contract is also persuasive in terms of playing him. Damon is a veteran. I can’t be worried about his production when he hasn’t been so much worse than most of the team. I know he’ll heat up. In fact he already has. It starts with hitting the ball, which he has been doing. It is followed by having the ball drop or fly over, which it did both today.”
Nonsense. Its all just pointless, thoughtless comments.
“it starts with hitting the ball” What?
“It is followed by having the ball drop or fly over” Are you kidding me?
“I can’t be worried about his production when he hasn’t been so much worse than most of the team.” Yes he has. Its not even close. The entire lineup except Giambi and Cano has been clearly outperforming Damon.
All I’m saying is know your team. Understand whats going on. Don’t post just for the sake of posting. Actually have something to add once in awhile. Anything.
Okay, Scott. Just making sure. : )
#9,
Chip Caray mentioned how Torre was trying to stretch out his starter for another out and I couldn’t help but laugh.
He was lucky Eithier got to that ball.
Unfrickinbelievable.
They tied the score.
“Hey Trish, are you watching the Yanks or the Bosox?”
Signs of a bandwagon jumper
38.Watching the red sox game instead of the Yanks.
Bayron, isn’t there a cricket match you can go watch or something?
tell me that mofo didn’t crack a smile there
Sox still down 5-0?
What is Damon doing out there in the field? What was that?
“He is done. Cooked. Finished. He can’t play anymore.”
C’mon SJ – don’t hold back – what are you really trying to say?!
Bad pitch selection there. Didn’t need to throw the slider to a guy who can’t hit.
Hopefully, its not the start of an inning because the offense is done for the day. Four runs is going to have to be enough.
miggs – WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’d send the wah wah wambulance for you but see I’m too busy shining my shoes.
Post THIS.
what the hell Damon?
Good for you Trish! I also have extrainnings cause I live farther away than you do. But always a Yankee till the death!
i cant believe that the rangers blew that lead
Wow. Is that the first time that Joba has given up 2 hits in one inning?
Lets go Joba.
Joba could probably use the delay.
Goddamnit Boston tied it up.
Why don’t we have come-backs like these in the bottom of 8th when we are down by 3…?
Boston Tied! Damn!
Here comes the rain delay.
Rain delay.
As Annie Lennox would say:
Here come the rain again…
Actually make that down by 5 in the bottom of 7th. When WE are down by 5 in the bottom of 7th, usually means we pack up for the day and go home.
Shutout saved by rain!
rain delay. wahoo.
Folks, while Moeller’s having a nice stretch here, he’s nothing special. Take a look at his career numbers.
There’s every chance he’ll clear waivers; GM’s don’t all make their decisions based on a good week’s work. Nice to have as a 3rd C, but that’s all he is.
i know what’s wrong with giambi. he’s played 14 out of 19 games. he should play every other day at the most with his body that more resembles a 45 year old. he should have played 8-9 games so far. he doesn’t need to play everyday to be ready when he does play. if he plays every day he’s going to be stiff and sore and slow.
if every other day doesn’t work, then frank thomas him.
Trisha just admit you know nothing about baseball and I’ll shut up. Until then I’m going to pick apart every ridiculous post you make.
Damn stop watching the boston games you people. Everytime i refresh this page i see a post about how boston tied it up. You guys are faster than espn…
If this rain delay lasts for any significant period of time i do not want to see Joba back out there.
I don’t mean a 15 minute delay – but if it’s a significant delay.
There is no reason to warm him up, get into the game and then put him back into the game after he’s cold.
They have a 4-0 lead and mariano hasn’t pitched much. If Bruney is going to be a key part of this bull pen he should be able to get the ball to Mo.
Arghl, I hate rain delays.
Build more stadiums with retractable roofs already!
Can’t believe the Yankees didn’t build new Yankee Stadium with one…but yay, it looks like the old stadium! *crazy*
Hopefully this is a well-timed rain delay for Joba. But I also hope it’s a short one because you dont want him to warm up too many times, plus the Yanks need every second of off-day they can get!
anyone in the b’more area and know how quickly the weather is supposed to pass thru?
Miggs – I know more about baseball in my little finger than you do in your entire body. Stop crying. Kay?
You’re gonna pick apart my posts? AWWWWW. I’m tho upthet.
Let’s just see if the Rangers can pull this game out.
GO RANGERS!
yeh Lowrie w// 2 legit doubles, Ortiz had a lucky basehit and Pedroia just smoked one.
it’s cool how on MLB.TV they show a little photo montage of grounds crews hard at work during rain delays.
Tigers fall to 6-13
Okay guys, I looked at the radar an it’s gonna be a little while so I’m going to go grocery shopping.
Back later.
Think Wilson just got jobbed on what should have been strike 3.
Bosox lead!
actually i didn’t want to see joba in there today. yesterday he was on adrenaline. today is when he would feel it.
should have had a day off.
Wow, DET lost again. They are 7-13. I thought that they were supposed to run away with the Central.
I knew coming out of Tampa when camp broke that this was a flawed team…..I’ll admit that I was countimg on a slimmed down Giambi to improve on his 07 numbers, and maybe he’d be a slight improvement on the field….It’s apparent that he very well maybe done, put a fork in him…..Giradi has stuck with him, but that marriage could be coming to an end….Maybe the FO was hoping to mix and match @ 1b for this year with an eye on Texeria ???..As for Damon, until there’s a better option at leadoff ( Jeter ) he’s staying put….I think Cashman & company were expecting 3 years from him anyway…..Those years in Oakland are catching up with Johnny , just as they are with Giambi…..
And based on that, he “walks” in the lead run.
Cripes.
Trish – based on your posts, we’d never know it.
Relax? I’m fine.
I just don’t want a .100 hitter who can’t catch or throw the ball as the starting first baseman on the team.
If you do, we can agree to disagree.
Jason Giambi playing everyday does not make this team a better team. If it does, show me the proof.
Ok Trisha obviously you cannot be reasoned with. You’re that dense.
I’ll just say this…..If you took a poll asking the regular bloggers on here who knows more about baseball I’d be shocked if you got one vote.
Your posts are a huge waste of time. You redirect conversations and ruin threads. I usually leave the blog when you start posting. Its that simple. You ruin the experience for me, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. I’m just sick of it.
Call the game, give it to the Yanks, and let them fly home.
Dr. Acula thank you.
At least someone sees what I see.
Hey Bayron, are you happy the Scouts got the lead?
Why ever would you post “Bosox lead!”
Well, Giambi is doing about as well as a cat would do in baseball. Although, I think a cat would get on base more, smaller strike zone. They’d probably run out ground balls a lot faster… no GIDP’s.
Trish got my vote! We need true Yankee fans like Trish whether some people like whats written or not!
If everyone wasn’t hitting into DPs and trying to beat them out, then they wouldn’t have all these quad and hamstring injuries.
SJ – after today, I’m sold on not waiting on Giambi until May. Hopefully Posada / Molina will both be ready to go on Tuesday and they can call up Duncan for Moeller.
Why did they bring Joba in when it was raining? Pettite is at 89 pitches,throwing good, they bring Joba in and now he likely won’t continue the game and they’ll have to bring in another reliever or have Mo go two innings. Would seem to make more sense to leave Pettite out there until the game is called orhe gets in trouble.
watching on MLB TV Fenway has that party attitude, they remind me of the 06′ Mets
i don’t think it would sit well with the Orioles if they called the game while they had 2 on and none out in the 8th inning.
Predictions for Monday. Giambi has pink eye and has to go on the dl. Betimet’s pink eye is gone and he’s traded for Mienktjlkjlich. Arod has his baby. Comes back Wednsday.
SJ,
I havnt seen you this critical for a long time. Have to hold back some emotion. Your suppose to be the voice of reason. You said last week it was only 2 weeks in the season and to wait till may to judge. Youv lost it my friend.
miggs,
I hope you know that some of us jokers know a little about baseball. But take the undercard role for some of the all stars in here. Just want to make that clear. Still brothers right?
Miggs, you’re breaking my heart. Well I guess you’ll be leaving about now I’d say since you leave if I’m here.
Bye!
If the delay is too long, I go with Bruney. If the tying run comes to bat in the inning, I then go to Mo.
You have an off day tomorrow. They have to win this game.
No problem with putting Joba in the game. Its the right move, he just had to execute his pitches.
Hopefully, they can get 6 outs and a win. Monday then needs to be the first step in fixing the roster.
Cause its a fact Trish, they unfortunately took the lead.
It’s appears to be an easy baseball decision to say goodbye to Giambi, but it’s not our 26M dollars. Not to say that it couldn’t, or shouldn’t, happen. But a number like that does give you pause. One can rationalize it by saying that the Yanks have blown money before – guys like Danny Tartabull, Ed Whitson, and the like, not to mention our own Carl Pavano – but you better be confident in your decision-making. This is where Cash needs to lean on Joe and Kevin Long, and maybe even his new special advisor Tino.
They have to wait at least an hour to call the game, but they’re not going to call it with the tying run on deck if they can avoid it.
Radar shows a narrow band of rain south of here headed this way. It could miss us to the east, it could rain all night.
They should change the suspended game rules for stuff like this. If it’s a save situation, it should be a suspended game. I mean, if you’re down one run, have the bases loaded and nobody out, and then it pours for 16 hours, you’ve been utterly screwed.
Although, every time I’ve seen Jason play lately, he makes the decision making easier.
From an article on the Yanks’ site:
“When Posada does return behind the plate, the Yankees will continue to carry backup receiver Chad Moeller, who started on Sunday.”
So Moeller is going to stay on the roster…it hurts flexibility, but maybe he could play first.
“Why did they bring Joba in when it was raining? Pettite is at 89 pitches,throwing good, they bring Joba in and now he likely won’t continue the game and they’ll have to bring in another reliever or have Mo go two innings. Would seem to make more sense to leave Pettite out there until the game is called orhe gets in trouble.”
well first of all it didn’t begin to rain until the 2nd batter got there, second Pettitte pitched enough today and gave a damn good effort, you can’t start putting SP w/ fragile elbows into high pitch counts this early in the season. If the rain delay is short either Joba or Brunney will pitch the next inning, what’s the problem, we have our first off day tomorrow no ?
Doesn’t Betemit have something more serious than pink eye now?
“miggs,
I hope you know that some of us jokers know a little about baseball. But take the undercard role for some of the all stars in here. Just want to make that clear. Still brothers right?”
S.O.S. I wasn’t saying anything about anyone except Trisha. There are plenty of knowledgable fans on here besides me. There are probably posters that know a lot more about the team than I do. I’m not disputing that.
When do you say “enough is enough” though?
Bayron, the scouts are on a run but we all know that hot streaks end.
Scouts pull the game out.
It started raining before the top of the 8th.
DFA giambi, NOW, during this rain delay
I haven’t lost it at all.
I just don’t understand how you can play a guy at first base who can’t hit or throw.
If it was a team in financial crisis or just a second division also ran, I can understand it.
But, this is the best the Yankees can do for a first baseman?
If it is, its gonna be a long season.
He cost Andy a dozen pitches and another inning with his play in the field.
At the plate? His usual feeble self.
I can’t imagine the Yankees feeling he is going to “turn it around” at this point. No matter what they say publicly after the game.
The question is, what do they do with him? I’d DFA him but, I’m not the GM.
I just don’t want to see him at first base Tuesday night in Chicago. At some point, enough is enough.
Till when should we wait Giambi? I’ve lost patience with him. It’s his contact year. If he can’t hit throughout April, why should we waste time on him? Let some young kid, e.g., Ensberg, Duncan, play the first base, and both offense and defense would improve substantially.
I wish both miggs and Trish would take their stupid argument somewhere else.
“Trish got my vote! We need true Yankee fans like Trish whether some people like whats written or not!”
Bayron,
you are the biggest joke on this blog. She was insulting you not stop before, along with myself, for calling out Pettites no hitter and now that she is in an arguement, to make you feel better about yourself, you are sucking up and trying to align yourself with her? Pathetic.
Trisha, im not trying to get on you or anythng, but this guy is a waste.
Miggs, its also guys like this Bayron dooshe who ruin the blog, as well.
Here comes the grounds crew!!!
YAY!!!!!!
it’s over in Fenway 6 -5 7 pitch save for Papelbon
4:35 resumption time.
Abraham Almonte 2 HR and 4 RBIs for Charleston today (announcer is saying he is better than Action was at his age)
Wady Rufino hit a 3 run shot, Jesus is hitting hard singles in Charleston
dr.Acula,
I know im not alone when i say this but i miss the eye candy when clicking your name. Bring it back will ya.
“I wish both miggs and Trish would take their stupid argument somewhere else.”
Ditto. it’s amazing how long some people can carry on a “you’re stupid- no YOU are” argument.
Work is too busy right now. Hopefully in a few weeks.
When it continues, it just makes me think they are both stupid.
Brandon thanks for the minor league updates, it sure is nice to see all these guys doing well.
If this season turns bad, at least we have all these good young players to watch develop this year.
heh. And I’m still waiting for my friend to get here so we can go grocery shopping.
Westerner, open your eyes and take note of something: I was minding my own business. When some loser comes here and calls me out I will respond to it. Because he is still licking his wounds because he almost had to be hospitalized when I said Wang was an inconsistent pitcher doesn’t mean I have to put up with his continual abuse.
I don’t agree with every opinion put up here but I also don’t feel the need to vomit over it, cry, and flip out when someone says something about a particular player that I don’t agree with.
I think the guy has some real macho control issues here.
Montero is 3-4 today. Now hitting .368.
What this team had coming out of spring training wasn’t a perfect roster.
But what they did have and still do have is depth.
And that’s not just at the 25 man roster level – it’s on the 40 man, as well as at AAA.
They thought that Betemit could play a passable backup SS – that didn’t prove to be the case. They called up Gonzalez.
They were hoping that Giambi would have a come back to his 2006 form – not clear if he will. They have Shelley Duncan who is ready to come back.
Many people were wondering what Ensberg’s role would be. But now that ARod is hurt and Giambi is struggling at the plate Ensberg is going to be valuable (if Betemit can’t back up SS/2b Ensberg is a much better backup option).
Posada gets hurt. Molina plays great. Molina plays great. They bring up Moeller.
They were hoping for Damon to make a comeback this year. We’ll see. But this is why it was fortunate they never traded Matsui first off. They can plug matsui into LF (his knee is getting better, he’s moving better, he’s looked OK in LF defensively).
On top of that they have Brett Gardner and also Jason Lane down in AAA as outfield options.
It’s not going well right now. Lot’s of moving parts that are grinding.
But it’s still very early and now is the time to evaluate what you have on the roster.
This team might be in trouble if they didn’t have so much depth.
But they do have that depth. That is going them to see what they have and make the appropriate roster moves in response to what they are seeing.
Cashman has said he’s going to wait until memorial day before making any major moves. We’ll see if conditions on the field press that time table. But until then they don’t need to DFA Giambi in order to upgrade the first base spot. For right now they can give more at bats to shelley. They play matsui more in left.
They have options – that’s the important thing right now. They don’t need the perfect roster in April. They just need to evaluate what’s going on and make the appropriate corrections.
Thanks for the update Larry.
SJ – I agree with you about Giambi. But unless they make a roster move by Tuesday night I think they are stuck with Giambi at first. Alex will probably miss a few games so Ensberg has to play 3rd. That leaves Giambi or Posada for 1st. Posada is better,but not by much.
exactly, Westerner. exactly.
Trisha – open your eyes. When you engage a second, third, fourth, fifth time…it makes you look just as childish and stupid. (And take note of how I don’t respond a second time to you.)
miggs people are talking Charleston like crazy, I mean even Cashman spoke about the Charleston team on Thurs. on the Micheal Kay show.. Rufino I haven’t gotten a hand on what he is but Abraham Almonte has been getting comparison from Jose Reyes and a little bit faster than Jose w/ better patience at the plate we’ll see, he’s drawn comparisons to a young Joe Morgan , that I’m not going to piggy back on. He has alot to prove but the last 2 days something has him driving the ball far.
miggs gets my vote. He brings alot of insight backed up with facts. Best Yankee blog by far.
Well, maybe the Yanks could by Gonzalez a first baseman’s glove and see how he does. It couldn’t be much worse than Giambi, right? Or maybe Moeller could play a bit of first when Posada gets back to catching.
4:35 start time, so was this delay short enough to bring Joba back out? It’s a tough call but I’d probably go to Bruney with Mo at the ready if it were me.
Cash can’t wait until Memorial Day to address the first base problem.
I mean, I know he can but, its not advisable.
That has to be addressed now. If he puts that off, everything he has worked to do on this team is going to go up in smoke.
Its pretty hard to have a pitching first team when your infield defense is this poor and it starts at first base.
With Arod now out, you have Ensberg at third.
Its definitely a problem.
Its why, if Posada can’t throw by Tuesday, he has to be put on the DL. That roster non-move is killing them right now.
Its still shocking to me this team doesn’t have a first baseman. Its one of those headshakers. Hopefully, its addressed quickly.
Neither Gonzo nor Moeller provides enough of a stick to play first base.
Oh nvm, didn’t see Pete’s update. Good call Girardi. I remember he once got lots of flak in Miami for bringing a starter back out after a rain delay so I had a feeling he’d err on the side of caution w/this one.
sj-
i think girardi knew over the winter that he had three players for the two spots of dh and left field.-damon, matsui, and giambi. i think he thought if he could play giambi at first, that would eliminate that problem.
it’s clear it’s not working. i think girardi is just slow to realizing it. i think giambi can still hit as a part time player, i’d keep him out of the field except as an emergency back up.
i don’t see a problem with making due at first base with shelly and ensberg this year, and making a play for Texeiria in the off season if he doesn’t get locked up by the Braves.
Bruney in to pitch.
And Giambi is providing a lot of bat support right now? I’m not talking long-term here. I’m just saying for the time being, while they’re both still up. Gonzalez will be here until Betemit is better and the Yanks said they’ll continue to carry Moeller even after Posada is back.
Here’s my thing though. How ’bout they just get a first baseman?
Why is that so hard?
We do they need to convert SS, 3B, OF, DH to first baseman?
Isn’t it easier to just get a guy that plays first?
This isn’t complicated. They have a guy who can’t play first base playing it everyday. He may very well be the worst everyday player in baseball right now.
So, just replace him.
If you can find good backup catchers, I have a hard time believing you can’t find a guy who can play first base.
Runs scored this inning will be charged to Joba.
Steph, those are not options for the Yankees. They have much better options available to them: Ensberg, Duncan, Miranda, etc.
sj,
What about having Posada try playing first base? That keeps Molina starting(better defensively and is hitting). Keeping Moeller as a backup. Im sure first base isnt as much of a grind for Posadas arm. Cant be much worse than Giambi can he?
I think that was Joba’s first earned run of the season, right?
Giambi needs to play the role that Strawberry played…PH, part-time DH…Very expensive role-player, but he’s proving to be a detrament to the club right now…..Get Duncan to the Bronx soon….
I know they do, but they’re not going to make the roster moves just yet unless they DFA Moeller. Betemit on the DL means AG stays up. Moeller will stay up after Posada is back. A-Rod’s going to miss a couple of games, so Ensberg will be at third for a bit. After that, he should play first unless they bring up Duncan. I’m not much of a Miranda fan.
Nick, I think you’re right.
SJ,
To be fair to Cashman, Betemit looked fine at first base defensively in the limited time he played there. Now he’s on the DL. Too bad he’s worthless with the bat (imo).
Just an observation, and not sure what it means, but this is twice Joba has struggled in bad conditions. We know what happened with the bugs in Cleveland, and now giving up 2 hits in the rain. It might be something he needs to work on.
Personally, with only 89 pitches and a 4-0 lead, I’d have let Pettitte start the 8th and used Mo in the 9th, but it’s not a huge deal.
But I am in agreement that Giambi needs to be benched and cannot see any significant time in the field.
Well I apologize for taking attention away from the game and the team, that wasn’t my intention.
I like to think most of the time I post things that are well thought out. I try and make good points. I just wish others would do the same. This will be my last post on this matter.
Right move not putting joba back out there after a 40 minute delay.
This is a big spot for Bruney. If he gets out of this with only one run scored that is an impressive outing.
Yeah, that’s the first ER for Joba.
SJ44-
well like i just said i think they could work it out with either shelly and ensberg or a platoon of both at first, but when it comes to going out to get a real 1Bman, what would you think of trying to trade for either Nick Johnson or Dmitri Young of the Nationals? I’d prefer Johnson but i’m not sure they’d be willing to deal him, but they have a problem there getting both of them AB’s with no DH in the NL.
And Mo can get credited with a save.
Bear down, Bruney! This one matters.
Finally Mo will get another save opportunity. It seems like we haven’t seen him pitch in years.
Steph I think you’re exactly right about all of that. I think you’ll see them staying with the grouping they have up right now with a mix and match.
Mariano with an off day tomorrow would have been good to have at the ready ready since it is important to win the game.
I think I’m now on the bus that the Yankees need to make some changes
first figure out what’s going to happen w/ Betemit, if you can trade him for an arm in the BP or a decent prospect do it.
second, figure out what roles the BP will have. Ohlendorf especially him.
third send Gonzo down to AAA we are wasting him on the bench it’s not fair to that kid, he needs playing time and if we need a utility guy on the bench get Ransom or Green to do it.
Shelley and Brett figure when they will come up what role will be there for them.
Doing exactly what you are not supposed to do in that situation. Walk a guy on 4 pitches to bring the tying run on base.
Bring in Mo now and don’t give Bruney a chance to blow this game.
Guess what Doc Cox, its actually guys like you that disrespect people and demonstrate what a loser you are when you think you are better than others simply because they don’t see things as you do. Its really pathetic to believe that a no hitter isn’t gonna happen just cause someone mentions it. Last time I looked this blog is for fun and people to comment and express their opinion. If you don’t like what others write you can sign out and go look out a window or something.
impressive relief by Bruney I could have lived w/o the BB
sj44- mr know it all. take break.
OK, Bruney, Millar bailed you out a bit there. The jury is still out.
Horrible pitch in the middle of the plate and he was fortunate to get away with it.
Its not figure skating. I’ll take the result.
Hopefully, Mo can hold the lead because I doubt the offense is going to provide any insurance.
Nice job Bruney. Sigh of relief.
Its early, but Bruney has been very good so far.
Good result, not necessarily great pitching to get the ball to Mo by Bruney.
I think this is a difference in managers here.
Torre would have pulled Bruney, no doubt.
Girardi didn’t…long-term planning by trying to build up his confidence so he can be trusted in pressure situations in the future.
Nice job by Bruney
Joba’s ERA just jumped from 0.00 to 1.42. Frowny face.
Nice to see Brian Bruney get it done. It seems like he came in this season with a new attitude, and, as a Yankee fan, I’m happy for him and us. It also gives one confidence that if he can figure it out, so Phil and IPK should be able to.
I like this Sherrill kid
sj44- knows so much he should be a gm
Nice job by Bruney and Dave Eiland there.
Jim Palmer said that he noticed that Bruney’s pitches to Markakis were up in the zone for a reason which was very obvious to him – Brueny’s arm was dragging behind his body and his shoulder was opening up early forcing him to get under the ball.
I’d guess Eiland spotted the same thing and went out there to discuss it.
I don’t like walking that hitter there to allow the tying run to come to the plate. But he got out of the inning with only letting one inherited runner score. That was a very good outing for Bruney.
So what do we think Giambi does here: ground out, fly out or strike out?
No thanks but thanks for the suggestion.
Again, why do we have to convert catchers to first baseman? Even as a part time option?
Its not an easy position to play. Ask Mike Piazza.
Just get a first baseman. There are guys available.
For all the thrashing Detroit has gotten for a slow start. Cleveland hasnt been doing much better 7-11. These were 2 teams that were supposed to finish first and second. Rather than fighting not to be last. I still think the wild card will come from our division.
Bruney has been resembling his 06 campaign. Way to get out of inning.
thats it, I have no hope for Giambi
I assumed the BB was because he was trying to stay away from Markakis figuring he would rather take his chances with Millar. The gamble paid off but he did get away w/a dangerous one there.
And now it is time for my favorite in-game commercial while at Giants Stadium for the Giants’ games….”Gotta Go To Mo!”
The Big K, I mean Big G does it again.
wow
Giambi K’s. Average is down to .109
“I like this Sherrill kid”
McPhail made an excellent trade with Seattle for Bedard. Sherrill is a very good reliever. They got Adam Jones, Sherril and a few other good prospects.
Bedard is on the DL with hip inflammation and Seattle isn’t sure if they can sign him long term.
“thats it, I have no hope for Giambi”
you had hope ?
Is it me, or is George Sherrill just not a baseball name. Seems like he should be a short story writer from the 60s.
SJ44 – have you heard craig biggio?…if not do some research.
Bedard also has the worst attitude this side of Marbury.
yeh for all the dumb moves McPhail does he got that Seattle deal right
I thought we established last year that SJ was Cynthia Rodriguez?
George george george of the JUNGLE WATCH OUT FOR THAT TREE!
oh damn you Moeller
Posada can and will turn into a first baseman.
Giambi’s batting average is now so low that it can only drop one point or two when he makes an out. And deciding to take Joba out shows that Girardi learned something from the Florida experience. He once left Josh Johnson in the game after an 82 minute rain delay. Good move to call it a day for Joba.
Nice bloop by Moeller.
no he’s not Micheal Kay !
SJ,
What happens if Posada can’t catch for a long time? The Yankees keep saying he’s a few days away, yet he doesn’t catch. He’s still an asset with the bat, and sticking him at DH clogs up that spot. I personally still want Damon in Left leading off, which leaves Matsui out in the cold. If you play Matsui in Left, you are shutting out Damon and our lead off guy who likely will come around.
Posada at First may not be ideal, but it seems like it could be one of the few workable solutions.
Sj- is on this blog 24-7 and the guy hasn’t learned anything so far.
JASON GIAMBI SHOULD LEARN A THING OR TWO FROM MOELLER
That rainout game for the Marlins was bogus. The opposing starter went out after the delay and pitched a great game and had no arm trouble. That was not Girardi’s fault.
A good start changes the whole dynamic. I support SJ’s campaign to start Joba.
“Giambi needs to play the role that Strawberry played…PH, part-time DH…Very expensive role-player”
that about says it. after that last at bat, i think giambi needs to go to one of those anti-aging clinics and do yoga or something. he needs a mental health break in addition to a physical one. playing everyday is not helping him..
Moeller for President.
“Sit down, Sit down, Sit down you’re rocking the boat.”
OMG THEY NEED TO SUSPEND SHERRILL FOR THREE GAMES. HE WAS OBVIOUSLY THROWING AT DAMON, SINCE DAMON HIT A 2RUN HR EARLIER IN THE GAME.
lets call it a day
Bases loaded. Go Jeter!
HIBERNATION HAS ENDED
Moeller has been a pleasant surprise with the bat in his short time with us so far. We’ve really lucked out with production from the backup catchers this year. huge difference from last year with wil nieves.
Sherrill better get suspended for that throw at Damon.
7-1 Yanks on the Jeter triple!
Woooohoooooo Jeter!!!!!
Atta boy Derek!!! Way to come through and put this game away.
I obviously have no idea if this is really the case, but it sounds like Erik Bedard doesn’t take very good care of himself as far as conditioning goes. Right now he is battling trouble with his hip and last year he was out with the oblique injury. For all the talk about C.C. Sabathia’s lack of conditioning, Bedard may also be carrying a few extra pounds. But I’m not a doctor or a personal trainer.
Whoops, I meant double.
only a double steph
So now we hope that Arod gets the same “quad relief” that Jeter got!
On the one hand, I have Mo on my fantasy team
On the other hand, I do like it when runs are scored in our favour
Man, Jeter has been great since coming back. He’s 2 for 5 today and was robbed of a double there. Keep it up Derek.
still a succesful RISP!
I’d still pitch Rivera here. He hasn’t been needed in awhile, and with an off day tomorrow, today is the perfect time to get him some work and not have to worry about needing him tomorrow.
I can’t believe the Sox scored 6 runs in the 7th and 8th to win today. They’re coming from behind in games a lot like they did back in 2006. That year their luck ran out and they missed the playoffs but they also had a ton of injuries late in the season.
I just hate seeing them pull these games out, especially with the Fenway crowd going nuts.
Well, I guess we have our own problems to deal with. Hopefully A Rod is ok.
On a good note, barring a huge collapse we should be 10-10 after today. With all that’s gone on, I’ll take it.
I agree with Vrsce, a good start lets the hitters not have to continually have to play from behind and not press to make runs. Joba in the rotation and Duncan at 1st is the way to go.
Well Dr. Cox looks like we are still on the right track. Bats woke up like we knew they would. You just can’t keep hitting balls on the screws and not have then eventually make it through!
Can we finally get our monies worth and put Pavano at first! We have to get something out of that pile before he leaves. Next year we have a burn the #45 day. First 1000 at the ball park get a 45 jersey to burn simotaniously. #45 never available for the life of the Yankees.
Did Craig Biggio learn to play first base during a season without doing any work in ST?
I suggest you take your own advice and do some research.
Unless of course, you think the guys on this team are athletic and talented enough to change positions like Biggio. A future Hall of Famer.
I believe Jeter now leads us in RBI’s.
Whoever comes in and takes #45 next time around won’t have any big shoes to fill. At least we know they won’t get booed like Hawkins did.
I guess we don’t need Mariano now!
I have Mo on my fantasy team also…but I have Jeter as well so it’s win-win!
Is it wrong that I wanted Jeter to ground into a double play just so Mo could get the save?
Check out these numbers.
With RISP Jeter is 7 for 14 with 11 RBI and a 1248 OPS
Glad I have Jeter on my fantasy team.
I’d give Mo the 9th too. Why waste another reliever when Mo hasn’t been in for a while? As sure a 1-2-3 as you’ll get!
Ensberg gave an AB away for the team
Josh,
How do you put Matsui on the bench? He has been one of the few guys on the team hitting.
If Posada can’t catch, he needs to go on the DL and get healthy.
Can’t sit Matsui for Posada. Not the way Hideki is swinging the bat.
Didn’t George Sherrill throw harder than 88? I remember him throwing much harder in Seattle.
He didn’t throw a pitch above 88 today. Or, am I confusing him with another LH reliever from Seattle?
Pete’s doing his best John Sterling impression in his 4:50 update.
“You can’t figure baseball!”
ensberg needs a quick k to get the orioles up.
I agree with letting Rivera pitch the 9th… no reason not to.
And the rain is really starting to pick up. Mo still going to pitch?
No way Mo pitches in this rain.
You don’t necessarily need Mo at this point, but he needs to get into a game. The worst thing that can happen to him is that he gets too much rest. He hasn’t pitched in a game since Tuesday, today is the perfect time to get him in and keep him in a rhythm.
thank you.
My philosophy is always, root for the Yankees 1st and my fantasy team 2nd, tho sometimes I am tested if I’m in a close fantasy game and the Yanks are winning anyway.
Well with a 7-1 lead and the rain pouring down again, as much as i’d like Mo to get some work in, is it worth it to have him risk throwing off the mound when it’s that wet? last thing we need is him pulling a Dontrelle Willis
Rob NY
Now that we have a common ground, let’s enjoy the season, however it turns out.
sj take a hyke
Well, I guess Mo can go, he’s getting a day off tomorrow anyway.
Wow, I eat my words, there he is. I can’t believe it.
Why is Mo in the game?
Yeah, with the off day tomorrow, it’s probably a good idea for him to get some work in.
Why is mariano rivera coming out to pitch this inning in the pouring rain?
What is the purpose. I understand he needs some work but this is exactly how Dontrelle Willis injured his knee – he slipped on a wet mound when his plant leg slipped.
What are they thinking here? Why even take a risk with Rivera?
Damn!
Sounds like a plan Vr. At least the sky isnt falling today lol
Another delay…. now who pitches?
I say Kyle Farnsworth !!!
The grounds crew hopefully does a good job of working on the field. Here comes the tarp. Rain delay #2.
A team can never have enough insurance runs even with the great Mariano coming in.
Yes Farnn, that is wrong.
wow it doesnt look good
Someone wake up Joe Girardi, it’s 7-1 and your going to risk an injury over Mo?
Thank god the tarp is coming out.
Well, he won’t pitch NOW. Rain drops keep fallin’ on my head.
This just proves how ridiculous it was for the Yanks and Royals to have played that game in the mud bowl. At least the ump made the right choice this time.
oh for god’s sake. they can’t just play through a half inning to finish the game when there is a huge lead?
the yankees played that game against the royals with steady rain all night long, in colder weather.
SJ,
I don’t want to sit Matsui. I don’t want to sit Damon, because he’s the spark at the top of the line-up. However, I think Jorge’s bat is valuable even if he can’t catch. He has played first before, so it’s not like he’s never done it.
I wonder if the Braves fall out of it by July, if Tex will be available to trade for and if Cashman would consider it.
Well, to much rain for me. See ya friends! Gotta go Bar B Q some steaks!
1. To get work in.
2. To try to get the game over with as quickly as possible and perhaps avoid what just happened.
3. So they could get to Chicago at a reasonable time and actually be able to have a real day off.
Is Girardi seriously so stressed out about a game in April where he’s up 7-1 that he feels the need to send Mo into a game where it’s pouring?
I don’t understand that decision at all. I know started raining worse once the inning was about to start but why put Mo in the game even the way it was raining before that?
I don’t understand why Girardi would take any risk with Mo slipping and getting hurt.
CB,
I think Girardi was trying to get him some work, and the rain wasn’t that bad until he came in. I’d certainly be nervous seeing him pitch with a wet mound, but Mo has handled it before. If the weather were perfect, it’d be a no-brainer to use Mo today.
You’d have to wonder what the Braves would want (surely as much as they gave up for him). No doubt they’d ask for an arm and a leg…and then there’s no guarantee that he signs with the Yanks after the season.
Hopefully the game doesnt get called or Jeters hit and ribis wont count. I predicted a batting title for him this year. Calling the game wont help his cause.
huh, how bout that, another rain delay. Baseball gods saying Mo shouldnt pitch after all!
Hope this one is quick though, seriously, they need to get their off day started ASAP! Did Farnsworth pitch yesterday? It was such a debacle I can’t even remember.
MLb = Anti-Mussina = McLovin…?
Just a guess.
Too much dooshbaggery and rubbadongas flying around here. Anyone talking smack to SJ is a dang fool.
SJ knows his baseball. He ought, a) he’s in the business, and b) he is on this blog a lot, making smart, accurate comments and SUPPORTING them with details and facts.
If he didn’t try to use Mo after he’d already warmed him up, you’d be on him for letting Mo rot. It was a light mist when Mo started warming…and the ground was already wet. He’s not a baby.
Girardi can’t win with some of you.
Bayron, where do you live?
Steph,
You can’t give up a lot for too months, but if the price were right, I’d have to consider it.
Please take this rain delay opportunity to give Mo a plate of Boog Powells’ ribs and then tell him to hit the showers.
Why is it every time I’m in here Trisha is fighting with someone new?
Make love, not war.
Burn tree, not bridges…
Nah, I don’t think Farnsworth pitched. I didn’t see the game, but if I recall the box scores correctly, Ohlendorf, Traber, and Joba came in to pitch.
Another 1B option might be Nick Johnson with D.C. I read where Chad Cordero is out with arm trouble. Might they be interested in Krazy Kyle? I know, I might be fantasizing a bit. Betemint for Minky might not happen, not if Betemint has a potential surgical problem with his eye.
Anyone know why they just don’t call the game now and revert to the score at the end of 8?
“oh for god’s sake. they can’t just play through a half inning to finish the game when there is a huge lead?”
Brian-I agree. Bring Farns in and have him throw under hand. Soft ball style. Im sure a 6 run lead would suffice.
Good call, Nick. Boog’s BBQ is a definite highlight to going to Camden Yards. The only downside is the line for the food.
Anyone know if this is going to be a long delay? I am supposed to go to a bbq myself.
I’d consider it, but I’d have to know the asking price. If they’re going to ask for a huge haul, I’d probably wait til the offseason and give up the draft picks, since it’s likely the Yanks will have a couple of picks coming to them with all of the FAs they’ll have.
At this point, I just want Shelley Duncan at 1b. I want to give him a couple of weeks of regular at bats and see what he can do with the job.
It’s got to be better than what we’re currently seeing.
And I still want them to find a starter if they don’t transition Joba into the rotation soon.
Cashman better go to work this week and fix what’s broken here.
Otherwise with the “wishes and hopes” rotation he’s assembled after Pettite and Wang, we are a .500 team the rest of this season.
You can’t go into every 3 out of 5 games holding your breath and hanging on for dear life.
This current rotation experiment should be over and fixed somehow. That’s what his job is. The team played it his way and we’re screwed at 1b, leadoff hitter and the majority of the rotation.
I’ll give him props for the pen and the catching situation, but he’s got a lot more minuses than pluses right now.
Steph – why do you want to trade? Didn’t you suggest Moeller or Gonzales play 1B?
Joe from LI: I don’t think the rules allow them to call it an official game after 8.5 innings b/c the home team is down. They went thru this same thing at Baltimore last year and it was a suspended game completed next time Yanks were in B’more.
I didn’t say that I wanted to trade. I said I’d consider it. And I suggested Moeller and AG for the short term while they’re both still up with the club so that the Yanks could sit Giambi.
Steph, make sure you apply for the GM job when Cashman’s contract is up.
Lovah – LOL
Thanks, BBB.
I wonder if Giambi would reject going down to aaa as he did a couple years ago? Let him figure it out down there and not up here. Where its not hurting the team.
wow , did you see that baltimore gounds crew spread dirt and cover the field !
when the opposing team’s ground crew is more athletic than your first baseman , you know it’s time for an upgrade.
Wow, I don’t know if Giambi would consider that.
bronxbomer since we’re in a rain delay why don’t you do a little searching on this blog and see who insulted who first. In fact why don’t you take a look on ANY of the blogs where it seems to you that I’m “fighting with someone new” and see who insulted who first.
I’ll give you $100 if you can find one example where I started crap with someone. Make it $200. The reason you won’t find it is because I don’t do it. But whenever someone wants to insult me, I am always going to respond.
Good grief, Trisha! Give it up…please take your insecurities somewhere else and stop clogging up the board.
It certainly wouldn’t hurt to ask Giambi if he’d do that. He has to know that he’s not helping them out right now.
Make that Cleveland Indians 7-12 to start the year.
Trisha, sometimes it’s better just to turn the other cheek. Always responding to insults just encourages more.
Ibid, Dr. A!!! (if I am remembering college papers correctly)
I’m still at camden yards! 8 rows from 3rd now. Go mo
Trisha, I live in Manhattan. You?
Good work, Rocco. How’s the field look?
I’m sure the Big G is as shamed by his performance as we are upset. He seems to be a very sensitive individual.
“I’ll give you $100 if you can find one example where I started crap with someone.”
trisha –
April 20th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Thanks Bayron.
We finally get Michael Kay to a point where he keeps his fat mouth shut through five, and you have to scream it out.
I’ll send you my address for that 100.
Anyone that has had as bad of a start as Giambi would be ashamed by their performance. It’s not about sensitivity. But if Giambi would agree to go to work things out, it could only help the team.
just for fun peter a should hand out suspensions on the blog. 1-3 days first offense. 3-7 second offense. 10-30 days third offense. etc.
he could put a poll for us to vote on when he’s unsure of the punishment.
no appeals.
Westerner,
If he had the choice to either ride the pine or go to aaa. I would think he might consider. At least in the minors he’ll get at bats to maybe break out of this so called slump.
Tseng – you are right.
Kill-Schill – I’m in RI, scouts territory!
I won’t even respond to the other testosterone fueled remarks. If you don’t like my posts, scroll past them. I’m not going anywhere.
I hate ragging on Jason, as he is a good guy….Some years ago ( 2002 ) Coach Snow ( Long Beach State ) had a luncheon for Jason that was to help raise $$$ for the 49ers Baseball Program…..I attended as did maybe 100 other people…Giambi matched the money raised and then some….Came across as a real nice guy……So I was really thinking that he worked hard in the off season, this is his walk year so I expected alot more than this…..Remember when he first came to the Bronx, he struggled much like this….So maybe he comes out of it, but not as the everyday 1B…..The funniest line so far…Giambi should be selling beers in the stands….
I don’t know if Big G would go down there…I just don’t see it.
randi I,
freakin classic!! I think their should be a 50 day for someone who has roid rage.
SOS if you consider that an insulting post of the same nature as the ones directed at me, send me your address and I’ll send you the $100.
When is it gonna continue? I wanna go to sleep
mko, coming on now.
I guess Mo was wearing a bib for his Boog Powells. Ok, Mo, just make it quick, please!
Thanks trisha, watching now.
About time…for three quick outs
WHO CARES IF JASON IS A GOOD GUY OR NOT.
MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS A GOOD GUY, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM!
mko, well…maybe pretty quick outs!
Dont understand why Mo came back to the game?
trish,
Some here have thick skin. Some dont. If your comments were posted to you. You probably would have responded to it. Bayron didnt.
SOS, you’re probably right.
Is that Alfred E. Newman from the Mad Magazine, who is offering some intelligent insight….
S.o.S. 27:
Well, he last pitched on April 15 and tomorrow is an off-day…pretty understandable that Mariano wants to get some work in.
And the bullpen is pretty tired as it is, probably.
Yanks win!
Nice way to go on the road!
GO YANKEES!
Hey, Giambi caught the final out. Positive!
And, um, MLK references probably not a good idea.
I don’t understand why Mo came back in either! Oh well, at least he had a relatively quick inning/got some work in.
Now finally a day off! GREAT pitching by Andy today, he continues to be our stopper. Have a good one all!
“Good grief, Trisha! Give it up…please take your insecurities somewhere else and stop clogging up the board.”
Dr. Acula I couldn’t have said it better myself.
mko,
Just dont think it was worth taking the risk with the wet field and the 37 min layoff. Its all good. Enjoy the rest of the weekend fellas.
I guess 3 outs was that important otherwise I got to admit Mo in the 9th on a very rainy day w/ a 7 to 1 lead. We got that W thank god the 20 games w/ rest and inconsistant play we end up .500 just like I thought at the beginning of the season.
w/o rest I meant *
S.O.S. make sure you get that $100 !!!!
pat m-
i like giambi too. he’s a good guy. but you and i both know , being the dinosaurs that we are, that you don’t feel the same physically every day after a certain point. giambi is at that point. i still think he could be useful if they pick their spots with him.
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FYI-
I am quite sure that isn’t the real Dr. Acula, just an imposter.
Brandon-
Are you a Van Gundy guy or Mark Jackson fan?
Buddy I think you’re right. I also found it interesting that “Dr. Acula” showed up shortly before “PK aveman” the Red S_X troll showed up.
I’d say they’re one and the same.
what i meant to say was that there are more viable options than Jason Giambi, whose skills seem to be deteriorating.
Randy 1, I say let him play the Strawberry role…..Geez Randy , Dinosaurs…That makes us Prehistoric…..Ouch…But I do remember the Yankee infield of Boyer, Kubek, Richardson & Moose Skowron…
Dr. Acula always has a link to cool photo, plus the Dr. doesn’t insult anyone.
Trisha – I agree with Dr. A…take a step back and look at your posts. Why must you respond time and time again to garbage posts? Develop a thicker skin…your personal vendetta posts are getting tiresome. (And don’t respond right away…take a second a think about it…and remember that I don’t have a dog in this fight.)
And for the record, Trisha, Dr. A was here posting long before you showed up.
Buddy, he and I haven’t even really posted here much at the same time so it would have surprised me for him to make any comment on my posting.
Imposter or not, he was right in that she is demonstrating the maturity of a 12 year-old kid.
“Are you a Van Gundy guy or Mark Jackson fan?”
Jackson but for this team Van Gundy is the type of coach they need
Miggs – to be fair, you could let it go once yourself. I understand your concern about knowledgeable posting, but knowledge isn’t everything, so don’t be so insistent. Let people enjoy things their way once in awhile.
Getting back to Charleston, just shows how well the Yanks have drafted and signed internationally lately. A. Romine hasn’t gotten a mention, is sharing C / DH with Montero, and hitting .396. Another OC CA kid like Hughes and Kennedy. Great haul of talent down there – they took it to TB’s Sally club. At that level we’re far superior in talent to the vaunted Rays system.
But these kids are 3 years from the majors and have a lot to prove yet. Good to see them kickin’ it, but a long row to hoe. With so many good young talents it’s likely to pay off some down the road, but be patient with the children.
I am not your buddy…not by a long shot. You lack maturity, as evidenced by your postings. And no, I won’t be engaging in a posting battle with you. Good night.
Westerner,
Let’s see if you can give this the same thoughful attention you want me to give yours.
That wasn’t the real Dr. Acula because he and I don’t post here at the same time.
I don’t have a personal vendetta. I didn’t address Miggs first. In fact I have never bothered addressing Miggs first. He came on and immediately insulted me.
I don’t have a dog in this either. There is nobody here I personally dislike because the way I see it we’re all on equal footing.
You’re right about responding to garbage posts. I will fight the urge to do it when I am here.
As an aside “PK” is a Red S_X troll.
Sooner or later Hank Steinbrenner is going to have to say to Girardi I don’t want to see you ever trot Jason Giambi onto the field as your first baseman ever again. It’s very clear that Girardi isn’t going to be able to pull the trigger on his own and he’s just going to watch this guy be a dead spot on the field and in the lineup.
And yeah, like many have already stated, it’s time for Joba to enter the rotation.
Ummm- not sure if you all are watching the post game, but Girardi just confirmed slotting Andy between Hughes and Kennedy (starting Friday) – keeps him on 5 days and gives them a day to work with Kennedy…so it’s now: Wang, Mussina, Hughes, Pettite, Kennedy
Uh WESTERNER I was not calling you my buddy. I was addressing Buddy Binacala.
Dr. Acula = PK, S_X troll.
Yeah I’m through with all the high handed advice.
Good postgame. Happy that the kids are going to be separated.
Trisha,
really just let it go. theres no use in fighting and arguing with everyone on an internet blog. its like the blind leading the blind, no one wins.
Who was the jerk who asked Alex why he wasn’t divulging where he was going? As if to make him sound shady. What a creep.
trisha-
Funny stuff! We can be buddies!
Beautiful mass at the Stadium. Talk about hallowed ground!
I expect great things once the Yanks are back in the Bronx.
my favorite part of tonight:
hearing that yankee fans were doing the roll call and chanting “let’s go yankees” while the pope was being driven around the stadium.
hmmmm…sounds like Joba’s snapping towels in the background because you can actually hear the yell in the background of Andy’s interview.
Thanks Buddy! Buddy!
Dr. Cox I know you’re right. I’ve posted on enough baseball forums to know that there are always going to be posters who rub each other the wrong way and some who’ll make it a habit of challenging every post you put up just to try to make your life uncomfortable. I always wonder why people who can’t stand other peoples’ posts don’t just scroll on by! Strange.
There are many more fun posters here than the other kind.
Brandon:
I was wondering what that was. Thats awesome. I bet he was rat-tailing Melky.
Mo hasn’t pitched in 5 days.
Can Giambi play any worse, man he is pathetic so far.
Cano is not far behind, cCano has a lower OBP then Giambi and has commited 4 errors already.
This 2 are playing terrible and Damon is not far behind.
Damon had s terrible base running mistake in the 1st inning last night.
terrible.
David
We’re 20 games into the season so it’s a little early to say that Girardi isn’t going to be able to “pull the trigger” if someone like Giambi continues to bring nothing to the table.
At this point there’s a good deal of evaluation still going on.
Chill out.
Dr. Cox, what was even funnier – I tuned into the mass during a commercial break in our game and one of the cardinals was giving some kind of speech and mentioned Baltimore and some other places, in terms of diocesan business. He said something about Boston, and people booed!!!!!
yeah david shrewd remark. Hank is going to tell Girardi what to do with Giambi and you think that is a smart move???
Steinbrenner knows as much about baseball as you, which ain’t much.
Give Giambi 150 Ab’s before you bury the guy… Yeah Joba in the roation in May..Another moronic idea, you are 2 for 2, what else should they do? How about trade for the big unit? You may be for a move like that since you are not too smart….
“That makes us Prehistoric…..Ouch…But I do remember the Yankee infield of Boyer, Kubek, Richardson & Moose Skowron…”
as good as that team was ,they didn’t have an all star at every position, but the team made sense. players had roles. yogi in left, blanchard off the bench. good old hector lopez. arroyo coming in for ford, etc
joba killed me in fantasy today, i lost WHIP by .4 and his INF did not help. we should setup a lohud fantasy league next yr
I’m for bringing back Tino. He can still play.
Ditto for me Evil. I had sherrill too, oops.
David,
Joba can’t enter the rotation yet or he’s going to hit his innings cap way too early. Unless, of course, he ends up throwing out 3 inning outings like IPK and Phil are doing right now =\
trish, just go away kid go away
gargoyle, Giambi is not one of the Yankees young pitchers. He’s not going to all of a sudden start becoming a great defender at the young age of 37. He’s not all of a sudden going to hit 40 homeruns again. And is Giambi somehow going to get faster and not allow himself to be thrown out from right field?
Let’s review:
- Giambi can’t field. He’s never been a good fielder is entire career, and he’s not getting any better now. At best, he’s a defensive liability.
- Giambi can hit a homerun once in a while. He can do nothing else at this point. If the ball goes anywhere NEAR the shift, he can be thrown out. It doesn’t matter if it’s weakly hit, hit hard, etc, he can’t run, so running balls out isn’t an option.
- Girardi has already stated he’s going to ask Giambi to hit the ball to the left side at points during the year. That’s his evaluation of Giambi. He doesn’t believe he can hit so he knows he’s going to have to have Giambi get cheap shots by either bunting to the left side or poking the ball. That’s the production he’s expecting out of his first baseman. Pretty damn pathetic if you ask me.
So I don’t really understand the evaluation process. He can’t play defense, and he can’t run, so the only thing he can possibly offer this team is a homerun once in a while, and for the last year and a half those have been scarce.
trisha–take your own advice about ignoring other posters.
liz-agreed. trisha-you only make it worse for yourself
They aren’t going to release Giambi.
The problem will likely take care of itself sooner or later because it’s just a matter of time before Giambi comes up lame.
Watching the Joe Girardi show. He totally believes in Damon.
He also believe in Kennedy and Hughes but does think that separating them is the best idea.
And he also thinks Moose is going to be fine and thinks his only really bad start was craptown. He thinks he is going to have a good outing in Chicago.
“The problem will likely take care of itself sooner or later because it’s just a matter of time before Giambi comes up lame.”
how will we know the difference?
Elizabeth and Fran – I am going to try hard to do it when I am here.
You know I’ve been doing more drive-bys than anything lately. Today I spent concentrated time here.
I am also going to see what I can do about having the Boston troll who stalks me removed. I’m starting to think he is behind some of the stolen identities.
Canò looked okay today, showed some signs of life. Same with Damon.
Giambi’s the one that worries me most.
Trisha – I just want to chime in and say I am glad you are here. It seems to me that you say some provocative things about the Yankees, which leads to others personally insulting you (not a scientific study, no stats to back it up). As an attorney, you don’t back down. Good for you. I may not always agree with your take on the players, but I appreciate your opinions. Takes all kinds to make the world go around.
Plus, I am always happy to see other women posting here.
stuart, read my above post and then tell me what Jason Giambi is going to offer that Shelley Duncan or anyone else in the universe can’t provide before you talk like you actually know anything about him.
And about Joba in the rotation… If the Yankees decided today that Joba Chamberlain is going to be a starter, he can’t just go down the the minor leagues and start games instantly… I would assume it would take maybe a month or maybe a little less for him to even get ready to make minor league starts, and then he would have to make 4 or 5 starts there… And he needs to get it in motion at some point. If it went in motion today I don’t think you can expect him there before late June or July…
Brace yourselves for 2 roster moves tomorrow and announced no later than Tuesday afternoon.
So Victor, what do you predict?
Does anyone know when Shelly can come back up?
bronxbomber77 -
Wow Motown thanks for that! I notice that if guys go at each other here, most people ignore it. If it involves a woman, all of a sudden everyone has something to say. (Even some of the other females.) Because you know a woman is never supposed to talk back to the all-knowledgable male!
I do like that there are guys here who are supportive, though, because you know that they’re not all testosterone driven.
I know that I have opinions that people won’t always agree with, but I don’t feel terribly threatened by that. I also don’t agree with some of the opinions proffered here by others but I don’t feel the need to get personal over it!
Anyway, thanks so much for the support. And I have gotten it from others here too. It’s just that he few who DO get bent out of shape seem to have the louder voices, if you know what I mean.
(I also do truly believe that some of the other stuff is coming from my personal stalker the S_X troll PK.)
trisha,
Given his options ( Igawa, Rasner)did toy really expect Girards it say anything different?
The Yanks starting pitching right now is a mess. For all the hype, there’s no minor league help in the short term. Their best prospects are at least a year away.
…is a woman in a man’s body.
(Wow PKaveman is good at stealing identities. I guess that’s from all his experience in GEICO commercials!)
Drive 4-5, you are absolutely right about that. If he really didn’t believe it, would he come out and say it? Probably not. But the thing is, I think he truly does believe it!
Geez, they will just let anyone in here these days….
Trisha…
I don’t care about your in-game insight.
I don’t care if someone threw sand at you first and you are ‘just responding’.
Your spamming of this board is obnoxious. Keep the $100, maybe use it to go buy yourself some class.
Why can’t you just tone down the (sometimes passive, but usually overly-) aggressive posts. My god, 6 posts from 5:59 until 6:15? Mostly arguing with people?!?!? Do you even know who the Yankees played today?
Seriously, its sad to say that if this is the type of knee jerk, moronic posting that will occur in here, I’m sad to say after two years my time on Lohud will quickly decrease.
How I miss the good ol’ days of SJ44, CB, Bobcat, Boston Dave, Rebecca, Yankees Chick, et al.
Heck, I’d even take a dose of anti-Mussina over this Trisha drivel…. for what its worth.
I’m out, talk to you all later when the dust settles in here.
Good game NYY… Lets hope A-Rod is back quickly from this injury and lets all hope and pray for a healthy child birth for Cynthia Rodriguez and the new baby…
P.S. — SJ, couldn’t agree more re: 1B. The Giambi side show has to stop… Did I say side show, I meant horror show. What will it take to get Doug Mientkievicewpfywiud or Nick Johnson back in pinstripes?!?!?!?
Not thrilled with Phil having to pitch on 5 days rest – I have no idea how he’ll handle that. I know the move had to be done, but it’s not exactly optimal to push him out a day. If he doesn’t pitch well on the extra days rest, all the Yankee boards and blogs will be lit up with fans knocking Phil. I’m not looking forward to that.
P.S.—
NOW I REMEMBER– You were the poster in here stirring up smack on OPENING DAY ! You went right after me, but Boston Dave as well… All re: the Detroit Tigers, of all topics…
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From trisha
March 31st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
“Hey dave, we want to get this straight pretty fast. I don’t tell anyone here WHY they think the way they do since I can’t know. Don’t tell me WHY I think the way I do. I don’t care who is diehard and who is not. We are not clones of each other. Hopefully some of us think independently. I think the Yankees offense is superior to Detroits. Okey dokey?”
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You can just donate the $100 you owe me to:
Psychologists Society of America
1038 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington, D.C.
20019-0971
bronxbomber I am SO SORRY if I ruined your posting enjoyment. See nobody could do that to me no matter how much I hated what they had to say, because I just wouldn’t bother reading what they wrote!
Rocket science at work.
Geeze you’re still smarting over that? Wow you guys really hold childish grudges.
Anyway, SOS won the money. Too late.
Motown -
Shelley’s 10 day option was finished yesterday. He could have been recalled for today’s game consequently seeing Giambi on the bench.
The holdup comes with Cashman & Girardi wanting Moeller to remain as insurance if Molina wasn’t OK.
Uhhh… Its hard to miss ya honey when you post 342 times from 3pm until 6 pm.
And I don’t think its just my posting enjoyment you are diminishing, at least from all accounts of the posts I’ve read in here about you today…
Anyway… Have a good night…. I hear shrinks are doing wonderful things with meds these days… You should look into it… Maybe valium would help ease the obvious pain you are in?
And the best one of all, Boston Dave and I laughed about the whole thing and put it behind us.
But I understand not everyone can be that mature, especially when it comes to something as personal as, uh,
baseball.
So feel free to remain upset and hold a grudge.
I, on the other hand, will just put it behind me as it has little to no meaning to how I live my life.
“April 20th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Geeze you’re still smarting over that? Wow you guys really hold childish grudges.
Anyway, SOS won the money. Too late.”
You can just send me $100 worth of your government cheese…
Out…
Good night to the real fans and posters of Lohud Yankees blog
bronxbomber
You can get as insulting and personal as you want. Whatever floats your boat.
Have a great night.
GO YANKEES!
Bronxbomber she ruins it for me every time. And she tries to make it a male/female thing, which is ridiculous. “testosterone driven posts” are what she calls them. I have no problem with any of the other women that post here, yet its a male/female thing when it comes to anyone telling her how annoying and wrong she is. Yeah right.
She dominates the board, posts an insane number of times, and ruins threads. Its what she does.
Music to my ears.
Hank stated he wants Joba in the rotation soon.
About Betances: The 6′8″ righthander is virtually unhittable at times, but needs to refine his control. He is 3-0, 2.69 in 20.1 IP. Just 13 hits, but 15 walks. 28 K.
Don’t rule out McCutchen. The guy was 14-4, 2.47 between Tampa and Trenton last year. I saw him in Trenton. Impressive. He is 2-1, 1.49 at Trenton now. 19k, just 6 walks in 24 2/3. 17 hits. Hopefully he is promoted to AAA in midseason.
I see games in Trenton and Scranton and check out and recap them as well as Tampa and Charleston.