Girardi not too pleased
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Joe Girardi was not a happy manager tonight after watching Ian Kennedy walk five and get knocked out in the third inning.
But he said - somewhat - that Kennedy would stay in the rotation. At least, “that’s the plan right now.”
Girardi also said last week that Jorge Posada wouldn’t play first base any time soon and he was there tonight, so make of that what you will.
Girardi went on to say that Kennedy needed to make only a “minor adjustment.”
When asked what that adjustment was (which, you know, seems like a reasonable thing to ask), the manager got testy.
“I don’t want to get into semantics, OK? Minor, major - you’ve got to throw strikes,” he said, his voice rising. “That’s the bottom line. I am not a mechanics guy. You’ve got to throw strikes.”
A television reporter started a question by saying that it was obvious the situation was testing him.
“No,” he said, cutting off the question. “It doesn’t test me. I hate losing. That tests me. People, I believe in my people.”
Have a listen yourself:
This will be interesting to watch all season. One of Joe Torre’s unquestioned strengths as a manager was the ability to keep calm and focused in the face of adversity. It wasn’t something he learned overnight, either. He had his trials with the Mets, Braves and Cardinals.
For Girardi, it will be a learning process as well. Because if tonight is any indication, the Yankees are going to have plenty of bumps this season.
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Pete,
Do you think Kennedy should make his start… against Cleveland?
Yikes.
I think the Farnsworth situation/decision before the game clearly ticked off Joe and left him ruminating during game…
I definitely appreciated Torre’s demeanor all these years, but Girardi’s passion is a welcome change (if that makes any sense).
If he’s as frustrated as we fans are, good!
I don’t think its a big deal at all. In fact I think its good. I love a manager who shows frustration. I hope he starts to show it in the locker room. Maybe that will get them going.
Bring back Shelley
I wasn’t wild about he Girardi choice, still not. The constant playing with the lineup is borderline nuts.
Frankly, I don’t see anything of what he was supposed to bring, other than seeming like a petulant child, he hasn’t shown much of anything.
“I hope he starts to show it in the locker room.”
Like Hal Mcrae did in Kansas City years ago?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kamDqL-AGzI
Yeah seriously, bring Shelley Duncan back. He should be their full time first baseman. We’ve seen what he can do and it would be close to impossible for him to be any worse than Giambi on the defensive or offensive side.
Joe should take a chill pill, and Cashman has to take the fall after for some horrible decisions in the last 8 years.
I don’t think Hank S. will trust him with all of the money coming off the books next year, especially with a new stadium and a badly mismatched and mish-mosh team. Players over the hill(Giambi, Mussina, Ensberg, Damon, Matsui), too young and unproven and over hyped players(Kennedy, Hughes), and underachievers(Cano, Melky, Abreu, Farnsworth, Igawa, Hawkins). Joba is the only young overachieving player that they have, and that won’t be enough. Even A-Rod is having his usual good year, mediocre year syndrome continue, and now even Jeter is getting hurt. Cashman has a lot of problems whih won’t go away, so he may have to for some other up and coming GM who can recognize talent.
Part of what ticked him off is you guys asked him the same question 20 times. Kennedy needs to throw strikes. I’m not sure what you guys wanted. It’s nothing physical or mental we aren’t at that stage with Ian yet. Then you start bringing up other possibilities for it. The bottom line is he had a bad start he didn’t throw strikes thats it. End of story.
Anyone know how Ian was after the game?
Hey Pete who cares about what Joe Torre did or didn’t do, this is Joe Girardi’s team.
Whether his approach will be more effective or no remains to be seen.
The tough love is good for the kids.
ralphrc, thanks for the laughs.
I hope Girardi ripped into Kennedy. He was pitching like a wuss tonight. It was horrible to watch. He was giving the Orioles offense way too much credit. Be a man and step up like a major league pitcher, or go back to the freaking minor leagues.
Boston putting together great come from behind wins, and the Yankees being shut out by the Orioles for god sakes. Pathetic.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
Looked like Pete was trying to set off a bomb with Girardi by asking him over and over again if Kennedy needed to throw strikes.
I think any 10 year old watching the game could tell you that Kennedy needs to throw strikes.
I was for Tony Pena.
I’m glad, at least, that we don’t have Mattingly managing.
Add me to the camp that wants Ian sent down and Phil sent down.
Joba to the rotation. He’s the only one with the chatzpuh to challenge hitters and the only one who seems to be able to throw strikes. I’ll take my chances with Igawa now if it means that Kennedy and Hughes will be better for the next half of the season.
Um, could the “tinkering” with the line-up have anything to do with suspensions for one starter and one bench player, injuries to the starting catcher and starting shortstop, Giambi with his usual bumps and bruises, injuries to the back-up catcher, and an unproductive 2nd baseman? Call me crazy, but I don’t think it would be a good idea to put Posada, Jeter, Molina, Duncan, Melky and Giambi in the line-up every night when they can’t play.
I think he has managed the team fairly well so far- the bullpen use has been outstanding- no one individual is getting particularly overworked despite the failure to have 3/5ths of the rotation put up consistently good starts.
Someone needs to stick a shoe up the butt of Hughes and Kennedy- it is one thing to lose because you get hit, but throw strikes, there are plenty of guys in AAA who are doing well. I’m sure Rasner or Igawa wouldn’t mind coming back up again.
“A television reporter”
is it any surprise that kim Jones asked that question?
lol
I was at the game tonight and it is amazing how much you don’t see on television.
Kennedy looked completely overwhelmed. He was tentative to start and once the ump started pressing the SZ, he folded. His pitches were awful. He may someday be ready for the major leagues, but watching the O’s hitters come up against him was like watching sharks circling with blood in the water.
Everything said earlier about Damon was spot on. His gestures and body language were “Oh, well,it’s only a game,” at best.
Cano’s head wasn’t in this game at all. He wasn’t focused in the field or at bat. You could watch him gazing off as if he was somewhere else mentally. The error on the easy ground ball was just the most obvious result.
The Yankee hitters looked like they mailed this one in all around. There was no pop in any of the contact they made with the ball. The O’s were getting solid shots, and you heard it. How is it possible for all of these guys to lose the fundamentals at the same time?
Only Ohlendorf seemed to be out there with any commitment, and after 3 + innings, he was spent.
At least half the 41k in attendance were wearing NYY jerseys of one sort or another. I have never heard so many New Yorkers so quite for so long. Wow.
Yes its a marathon and not a sprint, but a snapshot of the team tonight would be unsettling. And there is no guarantee that the O’s, Rays and Toronto are going to accept their role as ALE ‘also rans’ just because we want them to. They are playing baseball with a spirit we seem to have lost.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the schedule as areasonfor the line-up changes.
oh,ya Mr.Girardi not too pleased,so do fans.This team is tough to watch.awful~awful~VERY disappointed.
Tonight was an all around terrible game.
But watching it there is one thing that I am more and more convinced about.
Ross Ohlendorf is going to be a terrific asset to this team this year if he’s used correctly.
His stuff tonight was absolutely fantastic. Forget that last inning - he was exhausted, losing velocity and his ball was drifting up in the zone.
And remember - he was never stretched out over spring training - he only threw 1 inning stints. Then all of a sudden the season starts and Girardi asks him to throw 3-4 innings at a time.
Which he’s gone out and done with a great deal of guts.
That’s said - the stuff is absolutely there for him to be the 8th inning set up man sometime soon. There’s less and less doubt in my mind about him each time I see him pitch.
His ball has so much natural life and movement it’s really remarkable - hitter just don’t get good swings on it and aren’t able to square it up.
And his slider is getting better as a secondary pitch. Tonight hitters were so geared up for his fastball they were out in front and flailing at the slider. He deployed it very effectively.
I bring this up because once they get Ohlendorf back to his rightful shortman role he will be able to take Joba’s spot in the pen.
Will he be as good as Joba? No - but that’ only because no one this side of Felix Hernandez has an arm like Joba’s. There is no one who can equal Joba’s talent.
But they are almost definitely going to need Joba in the rotation - that’s is now emerging as by far their biggest need.
Ohlendorf can fill that set up man role - he has the stuff and is close to ready to do that.
They need Joba in the rotation.
people want ian and phil sent down, raster and igawa up…what is the fanbase coming to?
Definitely some cracks in that facade on the audio. Interesting…
Peter, next chance you get, ask Girardi what Kennedy needs to do to throw strikes. Then run.
If the Yanks had to send down a pitcher to get another guy for long relief, I’d much rather that they said for Rasner than Igawa.
I agree with you on Ross, CB.
He’s not used to pitching 3 innings a game a couple times a week. He was a starter, then a reliever, now he’s a long reliever.
Gotta get him into a 1 inning stint where its not a mop up situation.
After watching the post game I figured Girardi’s responses would be played up in the media. Actually, I don’t blame him for being pissed, his team appeared lifeless out there tonight.
Ohlendorf was throwing his slider 83-84.
Pretty hard for a slider.
Despite that the Orioles were way out in front of it.
That tells you how geared up and worried those hitters were about his fastball.
This season is not going as well as hoped obviously. But this part of the very long season is to evaluate the composition of the team, diagnose problems and come up wit solutions.
Ohelndorf to the set up man role with Joba to the rotation will go a long way to addressing what the team needs to do in order to get better.
Obviously Kennedy was bad tonight - but this offense right now is past horrendous. 6 runs is a tough deficit.
But last year’s team averaged scoring over 6 runs per game.
Johnny Damon is an contributing nothing - over runs the bag to get doubled off (one of the most bizarre double plays you’ll see - he was looking at the short stop catch the ball and seemed to be moving back to firs in slow motion only to over run the bag - how do you do that?). Then he K’s twice looking.
He needs to start producing or other options should be looked at.
Hopefully Kennedy, Hughes and Mussina can start pitching more then 3 innings each start and then Olendorf can be used the way he should be on this team. If Kennedy is bad his next start then the Yanks will not have any choice but to discuss if he should be sent down, and for Rasner to take his place. It is not fair and not possible for the bullpen to get killed 3 days in a row.
It’s time to put Joba Chamberlain in the starting rotation!
Hughes and Kennedy look horrible!
We also need to trade for a dependable starter!
We also need a reliable set-up man for Mariano with Joba
moving into the rotation!
Cashman has done a terrible job regarding the Yankee
middle relief and set-up men(not counting Joba which I believe was blind luck as far as Cashman is concerned)!
Cashman should have been fired along with Torre last year!
I think everyone expected this major change to happen overnight, which isn’t going to happen. The Yanks made some good and bad decisions in the offseason. We have Melky and Cano as are young position players. Other than that we are locked into Posada, Jeter, Arod, Damon/Matsui for the next 2 years. Not to mention Giambi/Carla P/Mussina/Farnsworth for this year. Guess what, they ain’t going anywhere.
That’s the team that was handed to Girardi. Do you think for a second he has the ability to call up a Gardner to take Damon’s spot or Patterson to take Farnsworth’s spot? Not a chance in hell. He was given a team that had Giambi/Duncan/Ensberg/Betemit as the 1B/DH’s. a team with absolutely zero roster flexibility. We may see a major youth movement (positional players) next year, but we won’t see it this year, there is no way it can happen.
If you don’t think it’s been suggested to guys like Giambi/Damon/Arod to change there approach at the plate (especially with RISP) than your crazy. For those calling for Igawa/Rasner, guys get real. We’ve been down that road, and we all know what will happen. Igawa will walk the park and leave balls up in the zone. At LEAST with Kennedy/Hughes there is some room for them to grow and learn. And on the bright side, we really aren’t having to sweat those inning limitations come August/September.
I think Joba goes into the rotation a little sooner, but again, we will have to be patient. All those that think he’s going to come out and throw CG shutouts everytime out will be in for a shock, cuz it ain’t gonna happen like that. I’m all in favor for the youth movement/ but with these aging veterans collecting multi million dollar checks Girardi has very little say in how that goes. I can’t wait for guys like Ajax/Gardner/Tabata. And later on guys like Montero/Romine/Sublett/Snyder/Betances/Brackman’s of the world to get there shot. I’m mad as hell at how these season is going, but I think I would sacrifice the playoffs for a year or two to make another run like 96-01. We just have to be patient and let the dead weight move on. I’m kind of hoping Damon realizes his skills are diminishing and retires next year. I hated that signing from the moment it happend.
Another bad loss and another reason why I think Cashman did a terrible job this off season.
You have a roster full of vets who are either in their prime or past it, you pay them top dollar and then you decide to put together a starting rotation that is put together with wishes hopes and scotch tape?
He had the time and the resources to find an innings eater. A veteran starter who could be counted on to give them some stability in the rotation and he passed.
The fact that he had an opportunity to acquire an ace type pitched and instead stomped his feet and played footsie with Theo talking about how they have this game all figured out with their young stud pitchers still pisses me off to this day.
I didn’t want him to trade all the kids, but at least have some serious options to help this team win now.
We went into the season with Moose who wasn’t good enough to finish in the rotation last season and two kids who had not proved a darn thing at the major league level.
Anyone surprised by what we’re seeing clearly drank the optimism kids rule kool aid that was passed out en masse this off season.
I used to be an avid baseball card collector when I was a teen. I would kill myself to get my hands on rookie cards of guys who were as highly trumpeted as Hughes and Kennedy. You know how many of those cards turned out to be worth anything? About 1 in 10.
Joba spoiled Cashman. He thought every kid he would bring up would be as successful as him, but Joba is Kong and he’s a freak.
Get Joba in the rotation. Send Kennedy to AAA. Find a veteran to replace Moose and play it by ear with Hughes.
If this isn’t done soon, our bullpen will be shot by the end of May if not sooner.
I don’t want to hear small sample size. I don’t want to hear weather.
I don’t want to hear any of the excuses that are made that make people appear to be reasonable Yankee fans.
You can take your reasonable and enjoy it while we watch the old stadium close with a non contending team in disarray.
Cashman made a mistake here. It’s time for him to put on his big boy pants and fix this because he put a new manager in a terrible position by assembling this rotation as constituted.
I’m not sure if anyone else noticed this, but if I’m not mistaken, didn’t Joba Chamberlain mix in one changeup in his outing tonight?
GLove, please tell me which team is willing to hand over a veteran to replace moose, and who do you give up to get him? Teams aren’t willing to handover veteran inning eater type pitchers for nothing ya know. And I swear if you say trade Hughes or Kennedy, you will lose all credibility here. I agree Cashman has made some mistakes, but this started way before last year and now we are paying for it. Damon was a horrible signing. Giambi/Pavano/Clemens, horrible. But let’s not forget Mr. Steinbrenner wanted some of those guys also. But the non-trades he made last offseason were great. We may not reap the benefits this or even next year, but there will come a time in the near fututre we will be very happy we didn’t do the trade for Santana.
I have no idea where we’re going to get some good starting pitching, but the answer is not Joba. Joba owns the 7th and 8th…hard to replace him in that role…
Where’s the proof that Joba could go 6 or 7 innings with the same kind of electric stuff he shows in 1 or 2 innings anyway?
Hughes I think will turn it around…Kennedy needs more work…
obviously, Duncan and Gardner are hot right now in AAA..Cashman should really call them up and see how it goes when they are called up.
anyways…the Pirates are interested in Wilson Betemit.
Before Wilson Betemit went on the disabled list with a corneal ulcer, the Yankees had been talking about trading him to the Pittsburgh Pirates. According to an official from another team, who asked not to be named because his club was not directly involved, Pittsburgh was interested in Betemit as its every-day third baseman. Pirates third baseman Jose Bautista is batting .169.
source: http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2008/04/molina_nearer_posada_unclear.html
Dynasty, Joba IS the answer. Joba doesn’t need to go out there and pitch the way he does now for 6/7 innings. If he did that it would translate to a no hitter/perfect game almost every time he made a start. That’s not realistic. He just needs to be able to maintain DECENT stuff over those innings. Joba was a dominant starting pitcher in the minors, so that’s why people think he can do it now. That’s the proof, what he’s done his entire career before being called up to the majors.
What would you rather have Joba own? The 7th and 8th on days when the subpar rotation is able to get him the ball (this would probably be rarely) or the top of the rotation where he can single handedly win games?
The choice is obvious and without Joba in the starting rotation this team is in for a very tough year. Having a dominant top 3 in Wang, Pettitte and Joba can be more than enough to get the Yankees over the hump of having to deal with Hughes and Kennedy growing in the rotation.
You can hear the frustration in Girardi’s voice. He’s uptight, and when you’re around uptight people, that tends to make you uptight. And you can’t play good baseball when you’re uptight.
But if the season goes down in flames because Hughes and IPK are ill-prepared to be full-time starters, that’s on Cashman, not Girardi. It was Cashman who took the calculated risk to roll the dice on those two. Maybe it will work out, maybe not. But even Torre in the dynasty years wouldn’t have won anything if he had had to work with those two in the starting rotation pitching the way they are currently.
Why wouldn’t he be testy? When someone asks you essentially the same question 10 times in a row after a game like that, wouldn’t you be testy?
Don’t take it personally that Girardi isn’t Joe Torre and may not read beat writers a bedtime story every night. And maybe Pete should take a look in the mirror before calling someone testy too.
David,
I just did a quick check at baseball-reference.com and indeed you’re correct-he was dominant in the minors in 2007…I didn’t realize he was that good as a starter in the minors…
I admit, it would be interesting to see what he could do as a starter in the Big Leagues…but consider this-if just one of the two, either Kennedy or Hughes straighten themselves out, we should be okay…and Joba would remain where we know beyond mere speculation that he is Major League Material…
But clearly we can’t wait too long…
This just proves why Girardi was the wrong choice for this position.
He couldn’t hack the three-person media of South Florida…what made anyone think he was going to hack the circus that is New York?
All I’ve seen from this guy is a concentrated and deliberate effort to show the world he’s not Joe Torre. He’d be better off flashing a neon sign over his head than some of the idiotic moves he’s made so far.
Kennedy and Hughes needed to make minor adjustment or trade them.
Dynasty, I really believe you want to move Joba into the rotation no matter how Kennedy and Hughes turn out. Yes, you can wait longer if they come along, but in reality, Joba could turn out to be the best starter on the Yankees eventually. Also, let’s say you start seeing improvement in Hughes and Kennedy very soon, what about Mussina? Mussina is washed up and he’s pretty much done. He doesn’t have the stuff to get out good hitters anymore. Kennedy and Hughes will get better, but not Mussina. Without a doubt someone needs to replace Mussina, and the way I see it, you can’t really go wrong with that person being Joba. You know what, whoever does his 8th inning job won’t do it as well, but in reality, they’ll get the job done most of the time, and the times they don’t the Yankees will either have to hope they have a big lead, or they’ll just lose the game. I’d rather see the Yankees lose a few games in the 8th inning than have their best arm as an 8th inning setup guy when the rotation is in dire need of help.
Who’s the right person then Donna? This interview proves to you that Girardi is wrong for a managerial job?? That’s a complete joke. What in that interview led you to make such a decision? Because four people and Pete are overreacting on the blog ahead of you?
SDJohn,
I’m talking about Cashman blowing off the off season with this whole with this false bravado that 2 rookies who NEVER pitched a full season in the majors and a broken down vet who can’t top 85mph was the way to go into this season as 3/5ths of his starting rotation.
Anyone who reads the blog regularly can tell you I was on Cashman all off season for being a petulant child when it came to dealing for Johan. Like we were making him do it rather than common sense.
At this point in the season all the aces and dependable guys he could have traded for in the off season are gone.
So now he’s going to end up trading his precious high priced talent for some retread.
You don’t think it’s going to happen? It will.
Don’t be shocked to see Kennedy in Oakland and Blanton or god forbid Harden here in NY soon. And we all know it will take a heck of a lot more than Kennedy to get Blanton.
He’s going to do it.
And I will be the first person to shout shame on him when he does.
This off season there was not good, great pitching, out there for the taking and all he had to do was be creative and tenacious, but the guy got gunshy because every time he seemed to dip into the veteran pool he came up with a dead fish.
I think he’s done a poor job as a GM. He’s hoarded prospects, resisted trading them for way above average major league talent under 30 and now we’re sitting here with Kennedy struggling and Horne and Marquez battling injuries and effectiveness.
If you could have traded Kennedy, Horne and Marquez for Johan or Haren, would you have this off season?
I would have. In a heart beat.
You know why? Because not every prospect will become a good major leaguer.
The Mets learned this lesson the hard way in the 90’s with generation K.
I’m fearing we’re about to learn something similar with our generation Trey.
And let’s face it, NY isn’t the cuddliest of atmospheres for a rookie to come up and struggle and take their lumps.
You think the GM might have know that.
G. Love, I think you brought up a lot of good points. But I think I can see where Cashman is coming from. You have Hank Steinbrenner telling the media the whole offseason that Joba Chamberlain will be a starter. Now, if you were Cashman, would you trade the majority of your prospects for a ace in Santana plus an astronomical contract when you might already have that ace on your team? Cashman had to be banking on Joba being a starter. I mean that’s probably his ace right there. I don’t think you can honostly believe that Brian Cashman thought Ian Kennedy or Phil Hughes were going to be an ace. Everyone knows that Hughes might be a number two, probably a number three starter, and Kennedy can be maybe a number three but probably four. Cashman didn’t trade for Santana because he saw the ace as Chamberlain, not Kennedy or Hughes. Cashman shouldn’t take the heat if he’s betrayed and Joba isn’t put in the starting rotation. And Joba is much closer to a sure thing than Hughes and Kennedy. Both Hughes and Kennedy have to hit their spots on every single pitch and always have pinpoint control to be successful. Joba is a completely different pitcher who can live over the middle of the plate because of his over-powering stuff.
David, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out in the next few weeks…wonder what Girardi will decide. In any event I think he’s going to give everybody another start…those next starts for Kennedy, Hughes and Moose I think will be critical…
If things don’t go well in those next starts I think we’ll see changes…
Leyland was heard screaming at his team in the clubhouse and Detroit has won four of five games since that outburst.
Maybe Joe could do that too.
Hey just so we’re clear…
Didn’t people always bitch about Torre never showing emotion and always acting as if nothing was wrong as the sky was falling? So Joe G. said he was mad about losing a game to a (eventual) bad team and showed a little (gasp) genuine emotion after the game, aka EXACTLY what Torre never did.
But no, clearly this outburst of unbridled rage and insanity shows that this guy is not at all ready for the job and is in over his head. (please note the sarcasm)
C’mon people you’re smarter than this. If you’re gonna whine, at least try and stay consistant about what you’re whining about…
“I think he’s done a poor job as a GM. He’s hoarded prospects, resisted trading them for way above average major league talent under 30 and now we’re sitting here with Kennedy struggling and Horne and Marquez battling injuries and effectiveness.”
——-
You got it!
raven, the entire team can use some tough love but the management of this franchise can never seem to resolve core deficiencies (i.e. pitching). Also, Girardi looked and sounded peeved at Kennedy’s performance; his frustration is understandable, but given the fact that Kennedy is only 23 years old and has NO major league experience what was Girardi really going to expect.
Even though I hate losing, I had to chuckle a bit tonight watching Girardi sweat like that. I like Girardi, but man that was ugly. Kim Jones grilled him. She did a good job tonight pretty much grilling everybody. It was like, “Now tell me what you did wrong and how you’re going to fix it.” Girardi looked like he was under interrogation.
He is right though. There’s not much adjustment you can make if you don’t get aggressive in the zone and throw strikes. You have to do that first before you can worry about adjustments.
How refreshing to see so much recognition of the incredibly bad job of Cashman the so called GM….For 7 years I’ve tried to get this inept GM fired for someone who can put the Yanks back into a World Series….I won’t repeat all of the info printed above about Cashman, but I will tell you about a situation being repeated this season….In 1964, Cards were heavy favorites to win WS, but by mid seaso were doing poorly.Branch Rickey was a personal advisor to Gussie Busch the Cards owner and he wanted the mgr. Johnny Keane, fired. Keane heard about it, and when he won WS with Cards over Yanks, his contract ran out and he signed to manage Yankees…Sadly, Yanks were at end of a great run, players including Mick & Richardson et al,were at the end of there careers and team played under .500….The following year, by mid season, Keane was fired, Houck took over as mgr…A few months later Keane died, and some said it was of a broken heart….Girardi thought he was getting a championship ballclub, but like Keane he is getting a big disappointment…
What gets me is how people had been blaming Torre for the lackluster play of his team because he himself is such a cool cat. So how do those Torre-blamers justify the team’s play now under Girardi, a much less patient man, a “fiery” man, if you will?
Geez, I wish we could light a literal fire under a couple of them. And I’d bench Cano until he shows he can grow up a little. AHHH. Where’s Bowa when you need him??
Pitching stunk.
Zero offense.
RISP left on base, yet again.
And people wonder why Joe Girardi is testy??
This team needs to have a fire under it’s a$$.
Pirates interested in Betemit…oh glory day. Now we can get Dougie back, a real firstbaseman.
doug, if you’ve been trying for 7 years to get him fired for a guy who would put us in the WS you have completly defeated yourself because we were in the WS 5 years ago.
about time someone got pissed about losing! i love joe torre, but when the yanks went on a loseing streak, his constant, steady, dont-worry attitude really got under my collar. i found myself wishing billy martin would come back for a week, bench a guy, throw some bats and punch out a reporter (not you, pete) just to show what losing sucks and shouldnt be accepted. i have no problem with girardi being this way even though it surely makes the reporters jobs less pleasant at time.
You Go Joe!
Punch out a reporter? That’s brilliant. Clearly us asking questions so we can better inform fans about the team is a huge problem for the manager. Obviously punching somebody out in the hallway would show the team that losing sucks.
It’s amusing how so many people know nothing about how professional sports work. Do you really think a room full of millionaires gets motivated by somebody yelling at them? You really think Girardi (or any other manager) acting irrationally will help A-Rod get a hit with runners in scoring position?
Players want two things: honesty and comfort. They want to know where they stand and they want to be put in the best position to perform their best. They want the same position in the field and the same spot in the batting order as often as possible. That’s it. The rest is just window dressing.
He said punch out a reporter…………. :))
sorry pete it was a joke, obviously i dont want anybody to get violent. i understand your philosophy about managers but there have been plenty of fiery managers who’ve succeded in baseball, even in this softer era.
Girardi was all smiles until the team started losing. Then, Marlins Joe came back. Let’s see how things go as the season progresses.
(Don’t piss off the media, though. Just ask Art Howe.)
David, Phil Hughes was projected to be an ace way before most Yankee fans had even heard of Joba. Sorry - now because Joba has dominated in the pen, Phil is now at best a #2? You can’t go back and rewrite history.
You seem to think that Joba is automatically going to dominate or, at least, not struggle. Ok, that’s your prerogative and your right……….but he’s still a kid, a kid who is going to do what Phil and Ian are doing, learning to pitch to big league lineups at a tender age. Facing a line up once is not the same as facing it 3 or 4 times and the hitters will adjust. Everyone thinks that Joba is going to be different because he throws flames…….I don’t think so. He’s no different than any other young kid and those who expect him to throw 6 or 7 innings consistently with no bumps in the road are, I fear, in for a great surprise.
Everyone needs to take a chill pill. We have young pitchers that are going to have ups and downs.
Joe Girardi being uptight with the reporters will not help matters. Punching out Kimberly Jones will also not help matters.
IMO he wasn’t “pleased” because you guys are virtually asking him the same questions about Kennedy over & over & over.
Maybe Torre had a little more patience when it came to that, or maybe the reporters need to pay closer attention to what their colleagues are saying…
First of all we don’t even know what Joba will be like pitching more than 1 or 2 innings. It is way to early in the season to judge Hughes and kennedy.
Our pitching isn’t great but I honestly don’t think that they would be like this if the offense got some numbers on the board.