Game 21: Yankees at White Sox
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- April
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Giambi 1B
Ensberg 3B
Cabrera CF
Wang RHP
Chien-Ming Wang’s history against the White Sox
Jose Contreras’ history against the Yankees
Notes: Cynthia and Alex Rodriguez had a baby girl in Miami last night. The as-yet-unnamed kiddo checked in at 7 lbs, 2 ounces. “We are thrilled with the birth of our second daughter and the blessings of having two healthy and beautiful children in our lives,” the couple said in a statement released by the Yankees.
Bet you $1 the name will somehow have Alex or Alexander in it. His first daughter is Natasha Alexander Rodriguez. Indications are that A-Rod will be back on Thursday. Given his injury, it’s unlikely he would have played today anyway.
Mike Mussina didn’t know that Hank Steinbrenner wants him to throw like Jamie Moyer until reporters told him about it today. “I don’t have a lefty glove,” he said.
As you can see, Jorge Posada is catching. It will be his first start behind the plate since April 8.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 8:14 p.m.: We’re underway in Chicago. It’s 71 degrees and clear.
Here’s what Joba had to say about L’Affaire Hank: “It’s something that will be brought up all year as far as what should you do and what will go on. It didn’t catch me by surprise. It’s something that’s going to be dealt with. It’s a win-win situation.â€
The kid has a good take on things.
“A pitcher,†he said when asked what his role should be. “I honestly don’t care. As far as being to help this team in any way, if it’s one inning or six or seven strong, I think it’s a win-win opportunity for everybody involved.
“As I told Cash, I’m never going to make the decision easy. It’s something I’m going to continue to work on and come to the ballpark every day. If it comes to where I’m going to get switched, I’ll do some things to get ready. If I’m going to stay where I’m at, than that’s fine, too. You’ve got to change your approach mentally a little bit (as a starter) and that’ll be the biggest adjustment.â€
Joba said he has never spoken to Hank about the situation.
UPDATE, 8:29 p.m.: The official scorer here at U.S. Cellular Field is apparently drunk. A one-hop grounder to Morgan Ensberg that he had in his glove and dropped was ruled a hit, as was Johnny Damon’s ball that clanged off the glove of Paul Konerko in the top of the first.
Meanwhile, lots of Taiwanese flags here at the stadium. The Wanger has a lot of fans in the Windy City.
UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: Hey, Giambi homered. When did the White Sox get Mike Timlin?
UPDATE, 9:00 p.m.: Somebody needs to tell the Yankees pitchers they’re not getting paid by the pitch. Wang is closing in on 50 pitches and it’s the second inning.
UPDATE, 10:02 p.m.: The Yankees are 0-10 when trailing after six innings. They’ve scored two or less runs in 12 games this season. This is looking like No. 13 so far.
UPDATE, 10:33 p.m.: There’s a first time for everything, it seems. Bobby Abreu’s grand slam (his first as a Yankee) has given the Yankees a 6-3 lead. Former Yankees paycheck-casher Octavio Dotel gave it up.
Chien-Ming Wang is now in line to get his 50th victory. He would be the fastest to 50 since Dwight Gooden got there in 1986.
UPDATE, 10:45 p.m.: Wang allowed 10 hits and walked two. But Chicago stranded eight runners against him, seven in scoring position. He was pretty effective given his lack of stuff tonight.
UPDATE, 10:52 p.m.: Nice job by Traber and Bruney to bring the tying run to the plate by walking batters.
UPDATE, 10:55 p.m.: No, the Yankees don’t need a player with a good glove to play first base late in games. Jason Giambi is just fine. What could go wrong?
UPDATE, 11:06 p.m.: Man, nothing comes easy for the Yankees this season. Up 6-4 and they walk three batters in the seventh but squirm out of it with one run. The White Sox are 3-14 with runners in scoring position.
UPDATE, 11:14 p.m.: The Yankees are a great way to kill four hours. No wonder they pay their players so much, they work twice as much.
UPDATE, 11:21 p.m.: Reports of Johnny Damon’s demise were greatly exaggerated. Three-run homer and they’re clearing out of here like rats off a sinking ship. 9-4 Yankees.
UPDATE, 11:53 p.m.: Guess who’s warming up? Mariano Rivera. How is Mark Melancon doing? J.B. Cox? Jose Veras? Whitey Ford? Red Ruffing? The Yankees have to find somebody better than Farnsworth.
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Peter Abraham
LOL, good comeback by Moose.
second! that lineup looks so average without Arod.
Congrats, A-Rod. Skollar, call me.
Hip, Hip, Jorge!
Moose is funny. That was a great comeback for a stupid comment.
It’s kind of interesting how A-Rod got injured a day before his wife gave birth, its very furtunate, so he’ll miss the same amount of days.
huge props to cynthia for having the baby on the off-day. i know she planned it like that. what a gamer.
from end of previous thread:
Notice how Arod padded his stats by having his daughter born right before a crucial road game. According to Bill James, Bobby Abreu’s daughter will be born in a much more efficient and team-friendly manner (just as soon as he gets married and has kids).
congrats arod… now u need a son to carry on your baseball genes
Thank you, Mrs. Rodriguez, for the superb timing. I’m glad to hear that everyone’s doing well.
As for Moose: beautiful comeback.
Wang’s been up in the zone his last two times out. Worked for him in Fenway. 2nd time? Not so much. Would like to see him keeping the ball down and getting grounders aplenty this time out.
Is it too early to propose to A-Rods’ daughter?
Jorge back there catching has to help, too
TKinDC-Haha, I think you might get a few shifty glances
Peter, you spelled reporters wrong. Oh the irony.
Congrats to A-rod and his wife. So nice to see Posada back catching, I know he’s been itching to be behind the plate.
….this remains a Soap Opera, huh ?
Congrats to A-Rod. My daughter is named Alexandra, BTW, so I think that’s a lovely name (for the record, it was picked by my wife, so no baseball influence there).
Pete, one question. Is there any specific reason why there’s only a 15 day and a 60 day DL?
You’d think that with medical technology, a 7 day DL option for non-pitchers should be an option (I say for non-pitchers, because you don’t want teams shuttlings starters up and down so that they only miss one start).
Is it too early for baby Rodriquez to grab a bat and hit for some who are slumping. Initially i thought Alexis would be a nice name for her. Changed my mind. Bambina!! Bambi for short.
Pete should have a name the baby contest.
Ruth? That could be a nice name for A-Rod’s girl.
A 7-day DL option for non-pitchers would be an interesting idea…they have it in the minors.
Could Mickey be a name for a girl?
Let the record show that beautiful bouncing baby x has not proven she can perform in the playoffs!
At least he didn’t name her Homer Rodriguez, a la KKKK Clemens.
It’s reports like this that make me just not care whether Moose can pitch or not.
How about “Rubi” – then you get RBI in there…
Congrats Cynthia and Alex. i know you read this blog.
glad to have Jorge finally back behind the plate. but for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction, so now we are sans A-Rod.
go Yankees.
Congrats Arod! I like some of the suggestions above, like the name Alexandra Ruth Rodriguez the Great. Now Arod needs to work on a son future Yankee great. As far as Pete betting $1 on the name…$1 dollar??? big spender lol.
over/under on at least 2 K’s for Giambi?
Could Mickey be a name for a girl?
They could call her Minnie Mickey.
Clemens should have named his kids Hary, Gary, and Hank
for HGH
at least cynthia can perform in the clutch! Good job and congrats!!!
when Moose retires from baseball we’ll probably see him with his own Comedy Central Presents special. what a cut up.
dan I take over
according to espn with varitek out with the flu:
“Second baseman Dustin Pedroia is the emergency back-up catcher.”
at least he won’t have to crouch down to receive pitches.
randy! I love it!! Ha!
I bet Arod can’t wait to tell his girlfriends in Toronto about his new daughter over a nice lapdance.
congratulations a-rod!
Congratulations to Alex and Cynthia. Perfect timing since the Yanks probably would have sat him for a game or 2 anyway as a precaution. By Thursday when he returns he should be ready to go.
Glad Jorge is behind the plate.
Congrats to Alex and his wife.
Maybe Mussina won’t think it’s funny when he gets hammered off the planet tomorrow night. What’s his one-liner then ?
I can picture hank calling cynthia’s doctor and telling them that they have to get the baby out now so arod can combine his injury time with his family time. killing two birds with one stone.
NYPD113th = king of all iceholes…
this team doesnt run much anyways. good way to ease back into catching for Jorge.
“NYPD113th = king of all iceholes…”
– Just don’t hit me with the pinky ring vinny.
George Costanza suggests the name SEVEN!
What the hell has Giambi done to continue getting in this lineup? SIT HIM PLEASE!
Great news all around. Congratulations to A Rod and Cynthia! Is A Rod a team player or what? His wife has the baby just when Alex would have to be off for a few days anyway. What a team player.
Nice to have Jorge back, hopefully his shoulder has healed and he can throw well again.
Ok, Morgan Ensberg, time to step up your game so that you are soon considered a good alternative to play regularly at first.
Let’s go Yankees!
Twentyseven Dereka Rodriguez
Congratulations to Alex and Cynthia on the birth of their second daughter! Glad to hear that all are doing fine.
The timing’s pretty good, too.
Glad to see Posada’s back behind the plate. Is Chicago generally a team with any speed?
I think Yankees fans need to calm down a little bit here with regard to our “#3 Starter” problem. It probably won’t be Moose.
Phil Hughes showed us last year that he can pitch. Sure, he’s having difficulties, but these are his first few starts in quite some time.
Hughes is going to emerge as the #3 starter. With his stuff he’s going to recover. Kennedy is questionable for a recovery, but not Hughes.
I know with his last few performances that the skies are quite cloudy, but light will shine through against the White Sox this week. I promise.
Just heard on Michael Kay:
1. Team had early optional batting practice. Most showed. Giambi and Damon did not.
2. Girardi said they will evaluate Alex’s leg when he gets to Chicago on Thursday.
Doreen,
3 steals for the whole team thus far(i believe). Keep Cabrera of the bases and we’ll be fine.
SJ44….. thanks for the info on the Montero/Romine situation. It seems to make sense, especially because they are both so young and have different parts of their game that they need to work on.
I have to say, even without A Rod our lineup looks pretty good. I think Yankee fans get a little spoiled. I live in San Diego and look at the lineup the Padres put out there every day. Most fans, even people with a lot of knowledge, probably can’t name more than 3 guys in their starting lineup. Yet they contend every year its amazing. Most boring games you’ll even go to, but Petco Park is nice. Oh and one more thing, the fans are so laid back you’d think you were at the ballet. Anyone that’s been to a game here knows what I’m saying.
myrtlebeach,
It’s also worth noting that Phil & Ian are being tested by the umps. They’re flunking the test, but nonetheless they need to prove their mettle.
I think AROD has children in the same way that Michael Jackson does.
miggs,
Im 40 min away from S.D. I havnt gone to Petco yet. Dont like watching other teams play. But i did go to the 98 World Series. Very nice s.d. fans after Broscious hommered in the 8th(hoffman). I have to say that Qualcom wasnt that nice.
Damn i knew their was a reason why we think alike. That So.Cal weather.
“It’s also worth noting that Phil & Ian are being tested by the umps.”
–Jeez! And this whole time I thought their control had been lousy. In fact it was a “test” set up by Major League Baseball.
Don Vito-
Nice job getting rid of the trash!
I spoke too soon.
NYPD,
Dont you get any sleep? I thought you owned some bar in boston? Did Boston Dave pay a visit to you.
The bar he owns is in Lawn Guyland.
Where is Shelly Duncan? Why is he not with the team? Does Girardi not like him? If its based on spring training he should be starting because he had a great spring.
Anyone know?
Anyone here ever been to Tropicana Field, I’m going in a couple of weeks & trying to see if I should spend some extra dough to get great seats.
“What the hell has Giambi done to continue getting in this lineup?”
He signed a 7 year 120 million dollar contract.
All about the bengimans.
“NYPD,
Dont you get any sleep? I thought you owned some bar in boston? Did Boston Dave pay a visit to you.”
- No SOS, my place is out n Long Island.
Dave talked tough and even senta couple threats, but that’s all they were. Probably better for me though, if I beat his ass I’d be charged with a hate crime.
All this worry about our “#3 starter” problem really isn’t necessary. The only time you ever really need a “#3″ starter is in the playoffs. If Mussina, Kennedy, and Hughes all pitch like 4th starters does that mean we’re doomed? What if they all pitch like 5th starters? Obviously they need to get deeper into games, that’s a given. But regarding their ERA in my opinion it doesn’t matter, as long as this team hits like its capable.
I think we were going to have to win a lot of 8-6 games, 10-7 games this year, especially when Mussina, Hughes, or Kennedy pitches. If those guys can average 6 innings and 3-4 earned runs (an ERA of 4.50-6.00) Girardi would probably take that. And if this team hits like it should, then we should win a lot of those games.
SOS27,
Thanks for the info on the Chicago running game. Seems like a good day for Posada to be in there – shouldn’t be too many tests, and I’m sure that went into the decision to put him behind the plate.
One of my family members lives in Santee. We visited a couple of years ago. Beautiful part of the country.
mel -
I have noticed that Phil has had an awfully tight strikezone in the last few starts, but Ian’s, no my knowledge, has not been much tighter than the strike zone afforded to other pitchers. He has just been wild.
Hughes has been close with pitches but hasn’t gotten calls much of the time (especially against the Red Sox).
It’s an interesting situation to say the least, but I have little doubt that Phil Hughes will solidify the #3 spot by the end of May.
The Santana whining will finally come to an end. For now, we endure.
“I’m going in a couple of weeks & trying to see if I should spend some extra dough to get great seats.”
NO!! Why would you spend money on good seats when the good seats are empty? Just slide down to whatever seat youd like. Come to think of it. It might be like a movie theatre. First come. First serve.lol
Buddy Biancalana :
If you like loud silly cowbells and assorted whistles, Tropicana is the place to go. All the best to your headaches.
“Hughes is going to emerge as the #3 starter”
hughes should be thought of as a #5 this year
any thing more puts too much pressure on him.
he basically throws just two pitches.
no one knows how failure for the first time in his life will affect him. pressure does funny things to young players. i think he is going to take this whole year and next before he can think about being a solid #3.
Jake Westbrook won’t be facing the Yankees on Friday night. He was put on the DL this afternoon.
S.o.S. 27 and Miggs,
I live in Orange County and have to hear about the stinkin Angels. I go to Angels Stadium when they play the Yanks – with my Yankee cap proudly displayed – and always get an earful when they lose, again, and again, and again to those punks. I would like to go to one game and see them actually beat them this year.
Watch Wang today, if he starts to struggle in the 4th or 5th inning, then Joe might as well take him out. Some pitchers are able to fight through their struggles, I have yet to see Wang do that. Once he loses it, it’s gone.
“One of my family members lives in Santee. We visited a couple of years ago. Beautiful part of the country.”
Its funny how people take things for granted. Im 25 minutes from the beach. But my wife and i always say we’re going to move someday to a place like Montana. Cant stand the traffic and crowds. Im sure if we ever made such a move. We would complain about the weather and no restaurants to eat at. Oh yeah! Not enough movie theatres. Traffic does suck.
“Dave talked tough and even senta couple threats, but that’s all they were. Probably better for me though, if I beat his ass I’d be charged with a hate crime.”
let’s see. I told you I’d meet you any time. You declined. You’d rather spend your time typing insults every day on a Yankee blog. I can’t fathom spending my time doing the same on a Red Sox blog, but that speaks to the type of person you are.
If others want to read your posts and respond, that’s their prerogative. There are plenty of trolls on the board and the only thing worse than the trolls, IMO, are the people who give them the satisfaction of a response.
Yes, I realize my response right now qualifies, but I felt the need to “cross that line” in this particular instance.
Feel free to continue getting off on insulting me on a Yankee blog to your hearts desire. If I even think of you at all, at least I’ll know that in some way I will have contributed to another wasted day in your miserable life.
Randy l -
I wouldn’t call it “failure.”
I think he’s facing adversity, and he seems like a solid kid who wouldn’t fall apart. He didn’t after the physical injury last year and the rehab. It took him awhile, but he got up to speed.
No, I think as long as he takes something positve from every outing, he will make strides this season. That is dependent upon his make-up, which seems to be good from all reports, and also upon how his coaches and manager deal with those points of adversity, and how they teach him.
So, Westbrook is out. They will probably call up some rookie from AA ball, who will completely bamboozle the Yankees who still suffer from URP syndrome.
I hate 8:11 games. I want them started now.
Pepitone,
I go every year as well. They are alot like sox fans. Once they finally won a title. There is the bandwaggoners and their is no shutting them up. From their talk, to their monkeys and thunder sticks. Its like Disney Land moved in to the stadium. I remember when their was more Yankee fans than angel fans.
I do wish that we can get over that hump with the L.A. wannabee angels. It is costly to go to those games though. 300 plus for seats between first and right. Thats for 2 people.
MLB.tv better broadcast this game on YES… for the love of God I cannot listen to Hawk Harrelson and is biased garbage for less than a second.
“Now that’s a can of corn.”
“C’mon now stretch!!! It will!!! Put it onnnnnn theeeeeeeeee boardddddddd YESSSSSSS!!!!
“2-0 god guys”
“He gonnnnnnnnnnne”
S.O.S. – How far off the field for $150 each?
SOS27 -
“The grass is always greener,” huh?
Well I’ve lived in the NYC area all my life and never been to the top of the Empire State Building, nor inside the Statue of Liberty. (I was too pregnant to climb the steps the very first time we went – why did we go? Who knows!)
I have to say, my brother loves SD, but maybe because he’s a NY transplant and he loves the outdoor life, he’s hooked. Will never come back here unless he forced to. Does a lot of camping, dune-buggy riding, skis and takes the short trip to Vegas. And he’s now a big Chargers fan. I’m not sure where is stands as far as baseball, though!
About 8 rows back. Is that good or bad?
The worst thing about 8:11 games is the 11 minutes you have to wait after 8:00 for them to start.
congrats on the new kid
Doreen,
In the 98 World Series. My wife was 8 months pregnant and Qualcom stadiums parking sucked. You had to park a mile outside the stadium. She hated me for quite sometime for making her walk all the way there and back. We can laugh about it today though. O.k. maybe i could.
Cant believe you didnt go after you had the baby.
I would say it is a bargain compared to comparable seats at the Stadium or at Fenway…but higher than the mid-West stadiums (Cardinals, Twins, etc)…do they raise the prices for “premium games” (i.e. Red Sox and Yankee games)?
S.o.S.27,
Oh yeah! I hear you loud and clear. I took my son to a game last year and bought tickets through Stub Hub for right behind the Yankee dugout. With parking, food, and souvenirs I was out around $600.00 for just one game!
It was fun though to be close to the players and finally be able to see the field up close rather than from the nose bleed section, and my son really got a kick out of meeting some of the players.
But, you’re right about Angels fans all I heard is, “We love to play the Yankees, they’re the easy part of our schedule.” Or, “Well, kicked the Yankees ass again.” They win ONE W.S. and think they are the Yankees. They have a ways to go to match 26 World Series wins!!
8:11 games do suck, but it’s better than when they play on the west coast and we have to wait until 10:05.
I hope the real Chien-Ming Wang shows up tonight. All signs point to the fact that he will, in his young career he has rarely had 2 poor starts in a row (except in the playoffs last year, go figure.) The Yankees have hit Contreras fairly well in the past, hopefully they do that tonight. We never know what to expect from Moose, and althought Javy Vasquez isn’t spectular either he’s off to a pretty good start. Thursday is a crap shoot. Gavin Floyd is pitching and he has been great to start the year, unlike Hughes. And you know how the Yankees are, they think because a pitcher is young, he must be CY young.
Westerner,
You cant buy the tickets from the stadium. You have to go to a ticket master or a broker. Those two teams are sold out from the first day tickets are available. Those seats are like $30 regularly. They need to end this non sense.
doreen -
i like hughes. i really enjoy watching him pitch. i’m going to look forward to each game he pitches. but he’s a kid. i think he’ll learn as he goes and grow into a very good major league pitcher, but #5 starter expectations are ideal for him right now. i just think anything else is putting pressure on him that will actually slow down his development.
SOS-
If you sit out in left field near the bullpens, you can usually pull in some tickets for about 100 bucks in rows E or F in section 101. But Angel Stadium is horrible, I agree.
Pepitone,
I think we should send our right field squarrell to kick that monkeys a$$. They were the only team that Torre had a losing record against. Hopefull the tides will turn with Girardi.
BTW. The 98 W.S. tickets were free from my wifes work. What a bargain!!
okay, gotta slow down. i’m getting too drunk to pay attention to the game when it comes on.
glad my mom reads this blog.
hey mom.
Brian eat some chips and eggs to coat your stomach –
what are you drinking Old Latrobe or Yuenlueng?
Brian,
lol. I got 2 questions for you.
1.Are you munching on some chips with that drink?
2.You mom does know its o.k. to drink at 21.
“let’s see. I told you I’d meet you any time. You declined”
Ummm, no, you told me you “know where I am and would be seeing you soon.” You also said once, “wait til I walk into your bar and deal with you face to face.”
Relax keyboard hero, I don’t beat up the elderly. Worry about your struggling team and don’t worry about what I have to say about them.
SOS-
I think the only games the Rays sell out are Yankee games. I found seats for $150 like 3 or 4 rows up from 3rd base on Field level.
maybe muss can’t pitch lefty like moyer, but i do wish he was pitching in the national league like the old man…
How about Wang pitches a perfect game and then Arod names his daughter Chien-ming Rodriguez?
In other news, I plan to pick up a cheesesteak to eat during the Yankee game, in honor of the Pennsylvania primary. Mmmmmmm, cheesesteak.
S.o.S.27,
LOL, yeah, maybe that’ll shut em up. The Angels have always given us problems, even in the 60’s. I went to a game in 1965 with my Uncle and some friends, he was a big Angels fan and we were just coming off a World Series loss in 64, but I thought the Yanks would take them easily. Yanks lost 13-4!! My Uncle was all over me the whole day with how the Yankees couldn’t be a “pimple on the Angels ass.” Unfortunately, for that year he was right.
Randy l -
In an ideal world, the Yankees would have had a more solid 1-4, or at least 1-3 and the transition for Hughes would be smoother, with fewer expectations. (And Kennedy, too, for that matter.) Alas. No ideal world.
Jimmy and SoS (both 27)
I’m eating KFC my girlfriend brought it home after she went to vote. And i’m actually drinking Labatt Blue.
And yeah my mom knows it’s okay to drink at 21. it’s just that it’s a tuesday night and all.
S.O.S. I live in Encinitas 1.5 miles from the beach. I love it here, but the traffic is horrendous. But I don’t mind sitting in a little traffic when its sunny and 70 degrees (which it is 90% of the time).
But my house is on the market and I’m moving back to the CT/NY area. All my family is there and a lot of my old friends. Of course my first winter there I’m going to be cursing myself, but that’s to be expected.
Brian-
KFC, that stuff will kill ya!
nypd -
serious question. do you have to hide your red sox roots to your new york customers? your attitude doesn’t seem like it would be good for business in new york.
i know Buddy. trust me though i don’t have it often.
Brian – have one for me (a thigh and a Labatt’s)
“Ummm, no, you told me you “know where I am and would be seeing you soon.†You also said once, “wait til I walk into your bar and deal with you face to face.—
I never said that. And if you didn’t see my post the first time, I will meet you any time. If you don’t want that, no problem. But if not, you should probably quiet down your keyboard bravado… and there would also be no need for either of us to mention or respond to each other again. My vote is for option 1. So I guess you have the deciding vote.
Baby Weaver is doing great so far, a leadoff homer to Ellsbury and a double to Pedroyer aka RatBoy.
Yeah for Natasha being a big sister!!!
you got it Jimmy
“nypd -
serious question. do you have to hide your red sox roots to your new york customers? your attitude doesn’t seem like it would be good for business in new york.”
– Not at all.
We have a great rivalry between us much like the two teams do. Trust me, my sports interests does affect my business.
I think A-Rod should name his new daughter Brianna. i just pulled that name out of the blue there is nothing that gave me the idea.
“I will meet you any time.”
– LMFAO!!!!!!
Well I assume this isn’t an offer to talk sports over a beer, so I’d better just cut my losses and consider myself lucky.
OK grandpa, I’ll take option #1 and consider myself lucky.
Boston Dave-
Your fantasy team is one to be reckoned with, I.m waiting for our match up.
Brian-
I hear ya! I’m throwing down some White Castle burgers myself.
How’s it looking for Obama in PA?
NYPD,
option 1? let me know when and where.
“Dave talked tough and even senta couple threats, but that’s all they were. Probably better for me though, if I beat his ass I’d be charged with a hate crime.”
NYPD, I havent responded or mentioned you in a long time. You want to post something like this, back it up. Otherwise, shut your piehole.
“option 1? let me know when and where.”
Tonight, in Huntington.
you’re gonna owe lots of people dollars Pete!
Brian
Cashman agrees with your name choice although The Boss is rooting for Georgina.
Boston Dave and NYPD113th – If you want to continue threatening each other then exchange e-mail addresses and do it there. Get this garbage off the blog.
Buddy
Well, no polls have closed yet in PA so i don’t know how it’s looking for Obama. My GF as well as her mom voted Hillary. girl power i guess. All indications show Clinton winning in PA. just for the record though, if I wasn’t registered as an independent and could vote in the primary, i would’ve voted Obama.
Want flat beer and hard as a brick hot dogs ?
My place on L.I. is the place to go.
Does anyone think Juan Miranda will be a factor for the Yankees this year at first base in a platoon role? His overall stats are misleading in that he is not hitting lefties right now but ripping righties. In his last ten games overall he’s batting .270 with a .400 Obp with 2 homers. Also his BB/K so far this season is 12/7. This April is the first time he’s had to play in cold weather so he may be just beginning to hit as the temperature rises!
I can’t endorse either Clinton or Obama, as this is a baseball blog, but I do wholeheartedly endorse Steve’s Prince of Steaks in Bustleton. I wish I was there right now.
“If you want to continue threatening each other”
– I believe I was threatened and nowwhere did I threaten anybody.
Hey, Boston Dave and NYPD, you guys need to cool off. I teach High School and had to step between two guys that were escalating the trash talk with similar words to you two.
I told them both that it isn’t worth it to get kicked out of school simply because you think your manhood was on the line. They finally cooled off and shook hands. I hope you guys can do the same.
NYPD113th, Can you keep your senseless and stupid comments on this blog to yourself? You making everyone on this blog aware of how much of an idiot you are.
Again, nowwhere did I ever threaten anybody, yet people are telling me to calm down.
Tell the keyboard tough guy to relax.
The legend grows
NYPD113th, Can you keep your senseless and stupid comments on this blog to yourself? You making everyone on this blog aware of how much of an idiot you are.
Another Sox rookie tossing a no-hitter. Quick, do a background check!
Boston Dave, I assume you are a Yankee fan living in Boston?
When is the ffffffff*king game?
What a punk, the pot calls the kettle black.
Tell the keyboard tough guy to relax.
This should be “fun” tonight..
Pepitone:
Good story: I myself am studying to teach high school. history is my subject of choice. english being the back up. i’m glad you were able to get your students to shake hands.
Buddy & SoS,
Dallas just gave up 39 points in the first quarter. It’s over.
I wish I’m a Red Sox fan.
Hah I’m a teacher also. Is it bad that I check the blog while they’re doing work?
Perry-The game starts @8:11 ET
OK, gotta run ladies.
Provincetown Dave, you have a great night! I will be at the bar in Huntington known for the yard-glass beers.
OK, gotta run ladies.
Provincetown Dave, you have a great night! I will be at the bar in Huntington known for the yard-glass beers.
To comment on a post made earlier….
It’s totally unfair to judge either Hughes or Kennedy yet. Phil has about 20 MLB starts and is 21 years old, and Kennedy has…6? How can we judge right now who is a #3 vs. a #5? Some nights those two will pitch like #1 and 2 but give it time.
Brian from PA,
Good for you! It is a rewarding profession. But, the kids are getting bigger and bigger each year. I’m 6′ 2″ and both of those guys were taller than me. Believe me if they didn’t have respect for me in the first place I don’t think I could have stopped it.
That’s why I hate to see that kind of thing going on on a blog of Yankee fans. Hey guys, were all family here.
“Trust me, my sports interests does affect my business.”
so the back and forth with yankee fans ” affects” your business as in losing business ?
Thanks S.A.
Congratulations to John Smoltz, Mr. 3000.
Boston Dave….let’s agree to throw just one insult that dude’s way then stick our fingers in our ears and say ” bla, bla, bla, bla “….then after school, we can meet him at the corner and kick his butt !
How’s our girl Hillary doing? Any updates?
“our girl Hillary”? Speak for yourself.
Polls close at 8.
The good the bad and the ugly should be coming out of Pennsylvania just after 8:00 EDT so I’m off to get my celebratory cheesesteak now.
Meanwhile, 1-1 in Boston and the Angels have men on 2nd and 3rd with none out and the top of the order up. Go Angels!
Guys, you know the rules.
No religion, no politics, no Santana talk.
Tell them Mel, baseball or nothing.
Fight on Hillary, for the last 6 minutes!
Bases loaded now and no outs for the Angels in Boston..
C’mon Angels!
What a stupid statement from Mussina. He and everyone knows what Hank meant. He was comparing him to another 100 year old pitcher, who doesn’t worry about how fast the fastball is and just changes speeds on every pitch. Mussina makes it seem like he is 5-0 with a 1.00 era this year. Good thing this is his last year.
when did moose get funny?
How come nobody told me just exactly how well the White Sox have been playing???!!!???
3 of their last 6 victories were shutout!
I knew they’d been playing well, and I knew they were in 1st place. But I wasn’t worried. Now — I’m a little bit worried.
update:
Matthews & Guerrero both popped out to second. Ugh.
BUT Anderson scores 2 on a single.
Am I dreaming or something? YES isn’t blacked out tonight?
If we can discuss the bastardly LA Lakers, we can discuss anything.
less than 10 minutes until game time!
Giambi vs Contreras
Giambi: 0-6, 4 BB, 2 K
Some explain this to me? Why is Giambi playing so much? Alberto Gonzalez has never faced Contreras so Why not? He can’t be any worse than Jason at 1b.
Doreen,
They’re 4-2 against the Rays and O’s with only 1 shutout (and they were shut out by the Rays)
Ok Eugie, I’ll ignore the Alberto Gonzalez comment and ask you this:
Would you rather have Giambi up or Betemit tonight? At least Giambi will walk once or twice.
The Yankee bats will come to life tonight.
Betemit is on the DL
Oh boy! We’re set for the stupid comment ‘He gone’ all day aren’t we?
“The Yankee bats will come to life tonight.”
Gosh I hope so.
Congrats to A-Rod and C-Rod.
Great to see Posada is apparently ready to catch again. Countdown to Shelley’s return begins now!
Thanks, EricVA.
With Posada back behind the plate, Moeller’s days are numbered. That means Duncan’s arrival is imminent.
*snarls* I have the Chicago coverage. A whole night of Hawk Harrelson – I’d rather eat sea cucumbers…ack oh joy.
I can’t believe some people who are saying that Hughes most reasonable expectation for this year is a #5 starter. Who, then, becomes the 3 and 4?
Hughes is our #3 starter. If he isn’t, then that puts Moose ahead of him. To think of him as the #5 then puts Kennedy ahead of him (or Joba).
Hughes showed his ability last year and will break through this year. Patience is a virtue and Yankee fans don’t know what it is. I’m included.
A few days ago I wanted Kennedy sent down and Hughes sent down, Rasner brought up and Joba to the rotation.
It was, of course, an emotional response. Through more reasoned observation, it’s clear (at least to me) that Hughes can and likely will be our #3 by the All-Star break and that Ian may well be sent down and exchanged for Rasner for a short time.
The next 2 weeks or so will determine much of the rest of the season and the direction that the team goes in.
Hey at least Mike has a sense of humor!!
Angel-do you have YES available on your TV? It doesn’t look like it’s blacked out tonight. At least it isn’t for me, and I’m always blacked out and have to watch on MLB.tv.
Double to lead off by Damon. Not bad.
I thought Contreras was going to pick the bat up and throw it a Jeter
No unfortunately not, Steph. I have Chicago coverage on EI. I could check WGN, but I bet if they’re on there, its the same coverage.
I’m preparing to shove hot pokers into my ears already.
I was amazed that tickets were available for all three games. The WS tout these games as premium games and charge extra for them, but they don’t sell out. Strange.
Already the umps are showing their anti Yankee bias. No way Abreu went around.
Oh, I’m sorry then. I don’t think the game is on WGN tonight. My deepest sympathies to your ears. I hope that your hearing is still there by the end of the night. If not, lawsuits should be filed.
Wide strike zone tonight.
I would like to think that I helped the Angels tonight because:
I turned the game on television (after hearing it in the car) in time to see Pauley load the bases and then give up runs.
I just turned back in time to see a 2-run jack.
If powerful thoughts could cause the S_X to lose games, they wouldn’t even have a team right now behind my “positive” energy!
GO ANGELS!!!
No need to thank me!
love runs in the 1st inning
Did the white sox announcer just say duck fart? ….. this is going to be a long series.
The one thing I’ll say about this God awful broadcasting duo is that you will never, ever hear them bash the WS. They are extremely supportive of the team, almost to a fault. They sometimes make up good stuff to say about them.
The Yankees get a run with runners in scoring position and less than 2 out…wow.
Yes, a runner in scoring position has score!!!!!!!!!!!!
what’s the score in sucks town?
Thank you, Trisha!
Oh God, is Giambi up?
Matsui-san is doing it with the bat!
Wow. A run.
Miracles do happen.
Man, how many bloopers is that? Posada, Abreu, Jeter…
Whew, it’s just Cano. Not sure that’s a good thing either.
…if an RBI ground out is considered doing it with the bat.
Balls are dropping in just the right spots tonight.
Can-oo Can-oh ????
Interesting thing this season with DirectTV and Extra Innings. Even when I am blacked out of the YES games on channel 622, I have been given a choice of feeds through Extra Innings. So I can always watch YES through Extra Innings. The only time it hasn’t been the case is with Yanks-SX games, then I am always forced into NESN since I’m in that market.
I wonder which Wang will show up tonight.
Is anyone else out of market and blacked out on the DirecTV package?
lets go yanks! good start
“Hughes is our #3 starter. If he isn’t, then that puts Moose ahead of him. To think of him as the #5 then puts Kennedy ahead of him (or Joba).”
no, cashman likes things in threes. three first base men, three catchers, ad 3 #5’s
( i’m being nice to mussina. i really think he’s more like a #7 )
the red sox have a #7 going tonight instead of a#1. that’s working out about how you’d expect. 5-1 angels.
When I was down in Baltimore I was talking to a local. He told me the second game of the season in Washington had something like 20,000 fans!! He said attendance has not been good at all. He thought the shady neighborhood was also hurting them, even though they are trying to revitalize it.
That said, if they continue to stink, any chance we can trade for Nick!?
What’s the over/under on how old Contreras is? I say 50.
Just hit it where the players ain’t-they’re definitely doing that tonight.
wow…nice pitch !!!
Cano took that pitch ?…AND the ump didn’t call it a strike ???…..wow…
I posted this last night, but I don’t think anyone saw it.
http://public.fotki.com/yankeeschick/yankees-vs-baltimore/
Anyway here are pictures from my trip to Baltimore.
They’re going to drive me to the WS drinking game to cope with them. Every time they say good guys – drink a shot.
Is anyone else out of market and blacked out on the DirecTV package?
No…I’m normally blacked out (out of market and don’t have Extra Innings) and I’m actually getting the game.
Wish I had your luck Trisha. Im stuck with the Hawk talking about duck farts and wallets on Michigan avenue.
Laura – my pleasure!!!
Yanksangel, that always seems to be the aftermath of hitting them on the screws right into the other teams’ gloves! So when we hit those droughts that always happen in baseball, as soon as we see balls at least being hit hard, we should remind each other that good things are on the way!
Oh, geez.
Angel, give us a count.
Nice AB Cano, but that definitely was ball four. Instead, it’s a K.
Aargh! ‘He gone’ ‘Good guys coming to bat’
We have to endure that all night.
Robbie Cannot………..strandation proclamation 0f 2008
I’m not sure that I like Cano THEN Giambi in the lineup….these are 2 weak hitters ( so far ) back to back…..but who am I to complain…..right ???
There’s one shot already – I’ll be plastered by the 5th inning if they keep this up, lol.
Nice pictures Jennifer.
I feel sorry for the WS. Despite the fact that they won it all in 2005, they are still treated like second class citizens in Chicago. The Scrubs haven’t won squat in 100 years and yet people still flock to go see them. It boggles the mind. Well, my mind at least.
Worst part about that K by K-ano is that The big Whiff leads off for us next inning. These two guys are murderous so far this year.
How sad is this? Remy just announced that a new show called Red Sox Memories will be on after their game and will be about when the S-X dominated the game – THE EARLY 1900s!!!!!
That’s really sad.
Hawk Harrelson needs to be tortured with the “tongs,” like the heretics in my reading by Gregory of Tours.
Thanks
Of course my battery started to die. 
I didn’t expect to sit in those seats, so I didn’t charge it before hand.
Steph, if you don’t mind me asking…what State are you in?
Oh Morgan.
Wow Ensberg looked rusty on that one…
When is Alex coming back?!
Morgan, don’t you remember how to play third?
How is that not an error? Geez the official scorer in Baltimore stunk, and so does the one in Chicago.
Aw man…Ensberg should have had that. At least he makes up for it with the DP!
They couldn’t give Ensberg an error when they didn’t give Paulie one.
Nice recovery by Ensberg and Wang
Okay Morgan you are forgiven.
Seriously he didn’t know where it bounced. So it is cool.
Oh Morgan!!!!!!
jennifer,
you must have been near me on Sunday. I got some great pictures of the Yankees warming up and coming out of the dugout… after the rain delay we moved up to about 8 rows behind 3rd
Laura I’m glad you said that because as I looked at Contreras struggling on the mound I actually felt sorry for him but didn’t want to say anything. Such promise and just not realized. He has to be haunted by it.
I’m in California.
Wang is pitching like he’s scared of Thome.
Did the Chicago announcer just say “As quick as you can say Howdy Doody”..?
Wow. Haha.
Murder-us row: Cano, folloewd by Giambi
What channel are you getting it on? I have every other game available.
My YES channel is on 622.
If you have DirectTV it’s 735.
Konerko is wicked hot.
10 o’clock Pete, I’m waving at you in the dark Navy shirt.
Come on, 40!!
Wang had better throw a CG shutout with no controversial calls, or I might deal serious damage to my computer.
lol, to each their own Laura.
C’mon Wang
Well, I guess I’m going to have to call DirecTV….thanks for the help.
Rocco
I was sitting in section 56 4 or 5 rows from the field.
Geez, he’s already thrown 16 pitches.
Wang, strikes.
Thome “so Big G you really suck these days eh?”
Big G “What’s your point they still give me my 23 million”
Sorry that it’s not working for you.
Ensberg…what’s wrong over there?
Oh, I can see this is going to be one of those games.
Anyone having mlb.tv issues?? It says the site is having technical difficulties or something… really frustrating
Jeter was pointing at second.
A-Rod might play better D with a bum quad.
This is ugly.
Oh brother
Ensburg better hit 2 homeruns tonight..
Stupid play by Melky. That was a terrible throw and now the runner advances. Wonder where his head was on that play.
I am on MLB.TV premium and it seems ok to me
How is that error? Ensberg couldn’t get to it because the runner was in between him and the throw, and it looked like it bounced off the runner.
Wang needs to get out of this inning, and needs some quick ones.
Sorry, RayBlay. No MLB.tv for me today. I get to watch the game on broadcast TV. Woohoo!!!
I think Joe G needs to ensure that his very best defensive infield is out there when CMW pitches because its a ground ball fest. I’d rather have AG at 3rd and Ensberg at 1st in this one.
I think the error is on the throw angel.
jennifer,
We started out in section 64 then moved to 56 after the 1st rain delay… 10 rows back.
CMW not pitching economically. Let’s see if Dave Eiland picks up why.
It’s an error to Melky because he let the runner get to second, which is where he should have thrown to.
What is up with the Wanger tonight?
Morgan is a third baseman, AG is not. Case closed.
making Wang work for it… 21 pitches already.
Rayblay I find that if I sign in first and then open the video I get on faster. If I do it in the opposite order sometimes I get error screens.
Things looked so promising when he got that DP.
I left when the first delay started. We knew it would be at least 30 minutes, and wanted to get a jump on the traffic. I was up at exit 100 by the time the game ended. But still didn’t walk in my house till 9:30.
Wang’s stuff looks good, I think he’s nibbling and also not getting any calls from the umpire…
Wang looks like he is trying to throw the perfect pitch. His arm angle is down also.
Wang, get out of this.
Hmm, the throw didn’t look that bad to me, just Thome got in the way. I suppose its not supposed to hit the runner though, lol.
At least he got out of it without giving up a run.
Wow, I was worried Jeter wasn’t going to get that one.
Settle down Wang.
Whew! Now, let’s feast on Contreras. (I feel bad for saying that, but we need wins)
Let’s hope Wang can go 7
Well, whatever the problem is, Eiland better figure it out and get him to make the adjustment.
Time to get some more runs
Me too Ron. I wasn’t sure he’d get enough on the throw.
For you folks not getting the game on DirecTV (like me), they say it’s a “broadcast issue” and their “engineers” are “working on it” and will have the game up “as soon as possible.”
I don’t know what that means, but the gal I just spoke with said they’re getting lots of calls. If it goes much longer I’ll call back and drop the Pete/LoHud on them.
I’m blocked out on Direct TV too! I live in SF, I figured the game was on WGN, but no go.
ah ok… i live in Baltimore so i didn’t care… i stayed till the last out
Here comes an Automatic Out.
Jorge had a talk with Wanger. Hopefully they got it all figured out.
tough inning..25 pitches.
Hopefully he gets a few quick innings later on.
Whoa, where was that pitch going? LOL!
oh my gosh.
OMG, an opposite side of the field home run. Somebody call the newspapers!!
wow Giambi goes the other way.
Maybe now he’ll learn.
Buddy do you have ExtraInnings?
Do my eyes deceive me? Giambi with an opposite field shot?
Opposite field homer!
Can you say that next time he comes up to bat, Laura?
Did I really just see Giambi hit one that far to left!?
No BP pratice Damon and Giambi equals a double and a homerun.
did UPS deliever his HGH today?
oh my god
Rocco, I probably would have been better off just watching the entire game. Probably would have missed traffic! Than again we did stop at Woody’s Crab Shack for dinner. http://www.woodyscrabhouse.com/
Great place to grab a bite to eat.
Wow Jason hit a homerun.
Did someone say, “automatic out???”
The Giambino to left center!
wow giambi goes the other way with power.
giambi comes alive
I still want to DFA Giambi.
Comcast proceeds to call it a two-run homer by Melky that makes it 3-0 Yankees. That whole broadcast team is a mess.
woooww
nice hr giambi!
Case closed Jennifer? Really? Not really just your opinion. I’ll stick with mine based on that botch job ME put on the leadoff grounder.
Great job, Giambi. (I’m going to discount it 25% because of who the pitcher is, though)
I think we just need to call him automatic out, than he’ll hit a homerun.
My shotglass is thanking them for not saying “he gone”.
Is it only HR’s by WS players that get a “he gone”?
So glad for Giambi to prove me wrong. I was already thinking here comes out one.
The broadcaster forgot to say: “you can put it on the boaaaarrrrrdddddd, YES!”
I’ll see what I can do, Angel.
Have no fear, Buddy B., we SF’ers won’t be denied, we’ll get the game soon, hopefully.
Meanwhile, Hillary was just declared winner of Penn. on one of the news channels, but the crucial margin of victory is still a mystery.
just got home and the first thing I see is a hr by Giambi…not too bad!
5th inning, 5-2 Angels. But Weaver’s pitch count is up to 89. They have a butt-kicking pen so that shouldn’t be a problem as long as Soscia doesn’t leave Weaver in too long.
As A gone ever played third?
JASON GIAMBI 2008 TO DATE:
6 for 47
2 2B
3 HR
1 single
:O
laura meant it was an automatic out of here! right laura.
see..if Cano just takes ball 4…then with the bases JUICED, the Giambino gets a SLAM….but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what does “going the other way” mean?
So far, I’m feeling no love for Ensberg.
Ron
There’s a reason people in Chicago created this site:
http://www.heavethehawk.com/
DJ and Hawk are awful
Opposite-field power for Giambi – that’s a very good sign.
is gameday right? hr to LEFT-center!!!!!!???????
Angel,
No, they do it when the opposing team strikes outs. It’s so sad that he thinks he’s being funny.
Did Giambi mean to hit that the other way
Sidearm delivery fooled Morgan. That was a cookie.
looks good jennifer. There are a lot of great crab places here though so no need to go that far north for me…
I’m actually moving across the st from camden yards in June. You walk out the front door and see a nacho booth in the upper deck. great stuff…
If you guys decide to come down for the last series (i wont be there yet for the next one) stop by for a bite to eat and a drink!
Giambi often skips BP on the field when it is not mandatory….as do a number of players throughout the league. He has done this for years. The reason being that, when hitting outside, there can be a tendency to try and pull the ball into the stands rather than working on hitting the ball back through the box. I have no doubt he put in at least 30 solid minutes in the cage before the game.
Oh, now they are debating how Cashman operates. How do WS fans listen to this crap all year?
Angel,
I know that they say “he gone” when we strike out.
These Chicago sportcasters (for all you mlb.tv users) are hillaaaarious…they made absolutely no noise for that HR…not even a “He GONE…round them bases”
We need the second coming of Harry Carey to take a trip to the south side
Jack Cust with walks = Jason Giambi
haha I wish that happened every time I questioned why he was playing though.
Did they just say that was a 1-2-3 inning? Wow, these guys are good.
how much is arods new kid’s net worth? more then everyone on my block combined times 5 + $67,931.82
i know who iam asking to prom in 17 years
WTH?? Did that tool just call the Yankees the bad guys?
What is this, Saturday morning cartoons?
Well if you subscribe to the theory that batters who are hitting the ball hard will eventually have them fall in – or go out – maybe that means Giambi is going to start to have more productive AB. I’d like to think so.
5-3 Angels, one out.
They are building a lot of new row houses. We were in Federal Hill, some very nice homes and bars!
We’ll see if Ensberg can produce. It is the back-up QB syndrome while he’s sitting on the bench. He always looks better than the guy throwing the interception…or in this case, striking out or making errors in the field.
I hope he can be a productive bat and solid fielder…but time will tell.
I feel for the WS fans too, having to listen to them. “It’s 2-0 bad guys” How childish.
Never liked AJ. He’s a thug.
Yeah…AG played a couple innings there last year at some point and looked good. I have also seen him play there in Spring Training. Believe me he can pick it where ever you put him.
i wish Kay wouldn’t say a word if the opposing team hit a home run….
O’Neill here’s your chance to make it right……
Red Sox getting back in their ballgame – down 5-3 in the 5th.
Micheal Kay = Terrible/Worst baseball annoucner ive heard in a while, the other day was sooo funny.. “giambi hits a long drive to left, there it goes….. CYYYYY OFF THE WALL!!”
I say we start a petition to get bob sheppard to be the new YES broadcaster
oh god paulie stop
To anyone this may concern….DirecTV is having broadcasting issues in several parts of the country. They are working on it and we (out of market) should have the game shortly.
Ahh, you’re both right. Its for opposing team strike outs. Can you tell I’ve been trying to forget their lameness? lol.
fed hill is nice. but i’m moving to the other side of the stadium… between 295 and MLK. I have friends that live there now and they love it.
I go to Fed hill a lot. It;s a great area too.
Freakin tie score.
Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.
So the girl scouts play without Beckett starting and this is what we get? And Weaver is still in the game.
Paul everyone is going to kill you again.
Oops – typed that too quickly – Youkilass just put one in the seats – tie game.
Bosox just tied up the Angels. Why can’t the Angels beat them like they do us?
That ball looked like Jeter should have gotten to it.
How can Paulie act like he didn’t notice?
And Cap shows his range up the middle
Paulie come on….. you can do better than that.
I’m watching this on MLBTV because I’m in Michigan and I’ve gotta say that the White Sox announcers are unbareable. “Good guys” “bad guys”, “he gone”. My biggest pet peeve in baseball announcing is when they root for their team while they do commentary (I’m looking at you John Sterling) and these guys are the worst.
I kind of figured Pauly wouldn’t say the fans shouldn’t have booed Hawkins. Coney just stepped in and said him getting booed on opening day didn’t help either. go coney!
Westerner – Interesting note about Giambi and batting practice. I posted this afternoon that he and Damon missed batting practice. I heard it on Michael Kay and Kay said that they both missed BP. Made it sound like they did no work at all.
Crede is having a nice comeback year. Too bad WS fans want him dealt for pitching.
Agreed Tom B
I had looked away from my computer for a second, and heard ‘That’s his 1st hit odd of Contreras’ I loked back thinking to see Giambi on 1st and he’s rounding the bases.
I thought Wang was going to have a great game tonight, since he started out with two gb.
come on Wang.
Yanksangel. Herte’s another Hawk and pal ism. When an opposing hitter strikes out – “Grab some bench.”
I’d want to vomit every time I heard them say it.
If Wang cannot get his sinker down, he is like batting practice. Joe better start warming up somebody now.
Wang is aiming the ball once again. He is awful at making adjustments during the game.
Aw shoot… 2 ducks on the pond with only one out. Wang having a bit of early trouble here tonight.
Props to Michael Kay for bringing up the number issue.
Wang giving it up….
What are Paulie and MK doing??
*still not quite believing they actually called the Yankees the bad guys*
Paulie should have said, hell I’m flattered that they still love me, but they shouldn’t boo players on their team. The Yankees did not retire it and again I am flattered that they Yankees held it out of circulation for so many years.
Oh WANGER!!
Sabathia, 2IP, 6 K’s
paul o’neill lost my respect tonight. stop talking. going to be along night…wang getting hit hard.
And it’s a tie game here as well.
um..Wang..what’s going on little buddy?
scorpio,
what did O’Neill say?
You would think Eiland would come out to talk to him about keeping his arm angle up.
Did some fan just yell good eye? I could hit and tell it wasn’t a strike!
that should be off not odd
something tells me it’s gonna be a long game, nothing wrong with that that…we need some interesting games from time to time.
-as long as we get the win.
ahhh, the wanger needs a time out…somebody go to the mound and give him a breather.
If Wang doesn’t have it, he won’t get it later. He is not much of a fighter. He just gets worse and worse.
42 ptiches in 2 innings. Not good.
What is O’niel’s problem tonight? I’m listening to… the hawk… on mlb.tv. Paulie lapping up the attention and talking about himself again? lol I like the guy but i’m sure he loved hearing his name chanted from the fans again, he handled the whole thing wrong.
Not what the Yankees needed so far
Breaking news: CBS projects Hillary has beaten the other dude.
C’mon CMW!
Paulie, that was weak!
Hawk is claiming that the Yankees tried to recruit him as a player.
Fran – I’m not surprised. It disappoints me that paid professionals fail to go beneath the surface on what they report. Kay is the TV voice of the Yankees, he practically lives at the ballpark…yet constantly fails to deliver key information when it doesn’t fit the story he wants to tell. In this case, he wants to make it seem like two slow starting or slumping players don’t care…rather than reporting about Giambi’s cage work. It really makes me question what some of these guys say.
Okay, I’ve never seen a bat break w/o contact. Check it for cork!!!
o’neill just kept going on about how flattered he was by the fans, how he understood why fans want to honor the #21, yadayada…not once did he support fellow ball player, Hawkins and say that fans were wrong to boo. o’neill clinging to glories past.
it was crass in my opinion, that’s all.
Trisha,
I was wondering if they changed the blackout rules this year. I live in FL and I am able to get YES during road games this year when in the past I had to watch the home team feed.
I wrote MLB, The commish, Bob Dupuy, and Direct TV to complain last year. Maybe enough of us did that to get them to relax their ridiculous rules.
Chris U-this board is not for politics.
That was an odd sight. Swisher’s bat broke before the ball even made it to home plate.
Come on Wang!
Did Kay just ask if it was possible that the bat didn’t have a crack in it?!
Yeah he swing and there wasn’t a crack and it broke.
WTH cares? Why stick politics in the middle of baseball talk? lol
chris u, I broke that story 15 minutes ago!
I report, you decide.
Still no DirecTV in SF, getting very annoying.
We have to win tonight. We can’t have two Chicago teams beating two NY teams in one day.
Yanksrule57, they definitely changed the rules because it seems we can get either feed for the games. It’s crazy! But good crazy!!!
Wanger at 48 pitches. Yeah, the bullpen will be getting a work out tonight.
This will not be labeled as a quality start by Wang. He just can’t gather himself tonight.
Heavy on the video tomorrow with Eiland.
“HE GONE!” and his bat!
Chin Ming no ace
Winfield used to break bats on check swings. I was always amazed by it.
Tied up in Boston.
Get to work Bats!
Wang @ 47 pitches
Nick, if you give me an email address I will email you my account info and you can watch it on MLB.TV.
Michael Kay is a complete tool. Why in the world would he bring up the number thing again? I mean, really. Haven’t we beaten that dog to death already?
Boston Dave,
Paulie said he didn’t notice Hawkins was booed. And when Michael K/Coney said Hawkins changed his # after Jeter, Posada and them talked to him, Paulie said they were nice guys.
What ???!!
i agree with above poster, you can always tell how wang will perform by his first 2 innings…the offense will need to pick it up if they want a win.
While not condoning Paulie’s handling of this (I think he’s handled it badly), somehow I also think MK gets a bit of perverse schadenfreude in keeping on bringing it up with him.
Laura,
Hawk was actually a pretty good player in his prime. He played in an era of pitcher dominance but had a couple of good seasons.
I was hoping he was going to overrun that ball.
O’Neil is just unbelievable…
7% of the precincts reporting….52% – 48% Clinton….Projected Winner ?….Just once I would like one of those predictions to be wrong….it just looks silly….It’s like……3-2 Yankees after 1 inning…Yankees Projected Winner of the game….( ok,,,let tha tomatoes fly ! )
Laura I don’t care if we win by one run and the Angels win by one run but dammit both wins better happen! GRRR!!!
Who the hay do the S-X think they are, the Yankees?
They’re into the Angels bullpen now. Bottom of the 6th.
“Hawk was actually a pretty good player in his prime. He played in an era of pitcher dominance but had a couple of good seasons.”
Really? I had never heard of him until I moved here and found out that he was the WS announcer.
Thanks, Trisha, it’s ncedmunds@aol.com
With any luck, the Cincinnati Reds will retire O’Neill’s number and end the whole ludicrous subject.
I thought Paulie said he heard them booing him on Opening Day, but he had to be an idiot to think that they were booing him for the person that he is. Everyone knew that he was getting booed because of his number.
Wow. Matsui almost got caught there.
I’ll take the Hawk over Michael Kay. My ears bleed everytime he says..”there’s a strike.”
is it me or did Paul O’neil come off as a jerk the last inning.
Laura,
30 HR one year, All star one year, 109 RBI one year. Not bad, credited with helping the Sawx win the 1967 pennant.
Don Vito, the exit polling data has proved wrong in the past (see: 2000, 2004), and the exit polling data is notoriously wrong after Giambi at-bats.
I’m not horrified at the thought of Contreras staying in the game for a while.
No, I don’t blame Kay at all, if anything Kay was trying to get O’Neill to acknowledge that Hawkins did nothing wrong & is a great guy. No bite, instead O’neill implies that Hawkins should have known better. Whatever Paulie.
5-6
This couldn’t suck more.
WTF else would they boo him on Opening Day for? Honestly, thats not very believable reasoning, Paulie.
“30 HR one year, All star one year, 109 RBI one year. Not bad, credited with helping the Sawx win the 1967 pennant.”
Well, he clearly was a better player than he is an announcer. I’ve put my stereo on mute; it’s just that bad.
Georgie gets robbed of another blooper. Hopefully Wang pitches a lot more economically this inning.
Bosox take the lead 6-5. Their lineup is just too much for any pitcher unless they have absolutely lights out stuff.
If the Crock Sox win another WS, I’m going to throw myself into the Chicago River. Well, not really – but I’ll want to.
: P
Matsui has shown that he has recovered well from his injury last year. He’s hitting well.
We’ve to trade him while his value is high for a decent starting pitcher. This would then give us 3 reliable SPs. It would lessen the pressure on the kids.
is it me or did Paul O’neil come off as a jerk the last inning.
He has come off looking like a jerk every time he is asked about the Hawkins issue and doesn’t put it to bed.
“is it me or did Paul O’neil come off as a jerk the last inning.”
It’s not just you. I thought the same thing
Glad I didn’t hear the Kay/O’Neill exchange. They really just need to drop the subject.
c’mon Wang.
Nick…thanks….oh, and about the BoSux….who cares….we’ll catch them….it’s a long season that they are gonna fade way before the end of the race…be patient, ALL….and wait and see …
Watch Wang this inning, if he is back on track he will keep the ball down. If not…BP for WS.
54 pitches. Yikes!
Well, that was close.
Wang is just as apt to throw only 30 pitches over the next three innings and get through six after 54 so far.
Wang got lucky there.
“STRETCH…STRETCH…OOOPS”
“Hey, Giambi homered. When did the White Sox get Mike Timlin?”
Funny one, Pete.
Wang, what are you doing??? He’s pitching batting practice tonight.
Wang really isn’t on tonight…he’s leaving the ball up over the plate and the hitters aren’t fooled.
I think the extra day off is affecting Wang. He never seems to do well with extra rest.
Ellsbury has two home runs tonight. Funny. The ESPN Baseball Today podcast guys just the other day were saying that the Crock Sox might send him down to AAA. I love it when the sports writers talk out of their butts.
Let’s not give up on the Angels either, they’re not the creamfuffs Boston just played.
Plus, Julian “Gravel Face” Tavarez is pitching.
He needs to be tired for his ball to sink.
The Red Sox were contemplating sending Ellsbury down. They had a meeting with him about it. The ESPN guys were correct.
Paul O’Neill is on a fast track to losing legions of fans just by throwing his hands in the air.
Plain and simple. He hasn’t got the requirements to have a uniform number retired.
He’s fortunate to even be on a Hall of Fame ballot.
“HE GONE!!!!!” That a boy Wanger!
Wang has been getting into trouble with his pitches by going to 3-2 on nearly every batter. It’s especially bad that he’s sometimes getting ahead 0-2 or 1-2 and then makes the count go full.
Angels threatening.
Back to back hits, nobody out.
GO ANGELS!
Wow, that was a pretty nasty slider.
LAA first and third, nobody out.
Oh. Let’s go Angels!
“The Red Sox were contemplating sending Ellsbury down. They had a meeting with him about it. The ESPN guys were correct.”
I stand corrected.
is this a red sox game thread? obsessed with boston are we?
Here comes an Automatic Out.
Worked before.
Nick in SF……I’m watching the Angel game, and trust me, Fenway is a house of horrors for them and has been for many a year……Hawk was a good ballplayer, but he quit the game to become a Pro Golfer..Bad choice….
Tavarez out of game. Okijema coming in. He’s hittable by the way.
I’m sick to death of Paulie. He’s like a ten year old. I can see now why he beat up water coolers. He’s like a spoiled brat.
Problem is Chris he wont lose the fans who are booing Hawkins in the first place. The level headed people who would be turned off by him condoning that BS aren’t the people clamoring for his number to be retired ya know?
“It’s not just you. I thought the same thing”
I love Paulie but tonight he came off an insensitive a-hole
I love how everyone is hitting. I still don’t approve of Giambi, I want Duncan.
good hit from Cano!
No more Tavarez. Okijeemer is in. It’s actually 1st and 2nd, none out. Bad Vlad at the plate.
Nice Cano!! Hopefully we can make this a long inning.
Laura-
You know, with most sinker ball pitchers I would say you’re right, but with Wang?? For some reason, when he doesn’t have it, he gets worse as the game goes on.
“is this a red sox game thread? obsessed with boston are we?”
WTF are you doing here? Obssessed with the Yankees are we?
Paulie acted like a brat. Very disappointing
I’m 1 for 2 with the Automatic Out call.
Duncan can’t come up until Moeller is waived.
Moeller won’t be waived until Posada and Molina prove they are 100%. It is a roster numbers game.
@Chris:
Paul O’Neill is on a fast track to losing legions of fans just by throwing his hands in the air.
We may be pissed about his behaviour and think (a lot) less of him as a person…but most of the fans probably don’t know what’s going on anyway without reading the blogs, etc.
So probably “legions” is a little exaggerated…
I still hope he feels it somehow…what he’s doing is lowest class…
Minor league report because its just too damn frustrating to watch the major league team right now:
Charleston losing 2-1 in the 6th. Story of the game, Jesus Montero. A HR (his 3rd of the year) and two more hits.
He’s hitting .370 and has 16 RBI in 18 games so far this year. For an 18 year old? Amazing.
We need a clutch hit from the Melkman right now!
Not obsessed with Boston, I just love the Red Dog’s accent.
Plus the Yankee game STILL isn’t coming through on DirecTV.
It’s beyond annoying.
Vlad flied out to Drew.
I know that a lot of people want Shelley back up, but just because he’s tearing the cover off the ball in AAA doesn’t mean that he’s going to do it up here.
“WTF are you doing here? Obssessed with the Yankees are we?”
thats the best retort you have? too bad…. not very clever.
I’m getting turned off Paulie. I loved the guy dearly, but he is being completely ridiculous and ignorant. He KNOWS that fans were booing Hawkins because he was wearing his number. He has had ample time to put the issue to rest, but he just won’t do it. I’m getting tired of it.
ReM Dog, that is.
Can we get Cano home?
thanks SJ, get use to it Jesus A ball for the whole year
Figgins and Matthews each move up a base on a pickoff attempt that goes into the outfield.
Wang is sitting at 95 mph. He is just sitting at that velocity – nearly every fastball is hitting 95. Every one.
He does not just sit at 95 mph. He’ll hit 95mph but he’s usually around 92-94.
It’s very clear that he’s just too strong tonight. His ball issn’t moving or sinking.
People make a very big deal about velocity (see phil hughes). But look at Wang’s game tonight. He’s throwing harder than he usually does and is getting hit very hard.
It’s not velocity – it’s movement. And right now Wang has none.
That sinker that Dye hit for a double last inning was 95 mph.
The sinker that wang struck Pierzynski out on – was 88 mph but had much more movement on it.
He was better against Pierzynski – he finally started throwing softer (sinker was around 88) and getting more movement.
Let’s see if he can continue that next inning.
Cashman said he’s keeping Montero in Charleston all year, right?
There is a fan that is sitting up front that must be right next to the mic because I can hear everything he’s saying.
Ya gotta love it when it’s said a player is listed as day-to day.
Isn’t everybody ?
SJ, This kid is the same as a HS player….Just amazing numbers….His upside is out of sight….
Someone needs to shut the cakehole of that bonehead in the crowd that keeps yelling Melky’s name.
that heckler is beyond annoying.
On the phone having a virus removed from my computer. Keep an eye on the Angels! Here’s hoping!!!
Angel:
Yeah, but he was actually yelling the correct pitches that were coming to Melky.
LOL…
That was ball 4.
Any of you guys hearing the idiot yelling, “Melky, Melky, hey Melky…hit the forkball. Melky, Melky, Melky, hit the fastball..here itcomes, now swing!”
Anderson pops out to Youk, 2 out, still 2 on.
Yanks have to do better getting over lead off doubles. They left way too many runners on base. Especially when all you have to do is hit the ball to the right side. Melky with another pathetic at bat.
Montero and Jackson are my picks to be at the Futures Game.
MELKY! HEY MELKY!! THINK FASTBALL…
What is that about lol
Yes, I just posted about it. He was bloody annoyingly loud!
I’m no fan of the way O’Neill has handled the situation, but frankly, once Hawkins changed his number, the matter should have been closed. It really wasn’t a good thing for Kay to re-open the subject with Paul. I know this is his first time back in the booth since the number change, but still. I know as far as I’m concerned, it’s done.
Wasted lead-off double. Yuck. Good at-bad to that point by Melky.
pepitone- yes I heard that really annoying guy as well.
seriously, wasn’t that ball 4?
Dang it
Wang is flirting with danger.
Wang is now a fly ball pitcher….
Meant to say same age as a HS player….There was a time that if a player put those numbers up for let’s say a third of a season, he was moved up real fast….I see him in Trenton by midseason….
And Toriiiiiiii Hunter strikes out, 2 men left on base, still 6-5 Boston.
“He’s hitting .370 and has 16 RBI in 18 games so far this year. For an 18 year old? Amazing.”
SJ,
Have you happened to see what Angel Villalona and Engel Beltre are doing in the sally league. Villalona is the youngest player in the sally league (only 17 and considered to be the best prospect). Montero is second youngest. Beltre, also a very good prospect, is the fourth youngest.
When you look at what Montero is doing compared to the other 5 youngest players in the sally leagues it’s even more astonishing.
Villalona is hitting .240 with a .684 OPS.
Beltre is doing well .299 with a .756 OPS
But Montero – .370 with a .900+ OPS
So far he’s been in an entirely different league from them, even a guy like Villalona who, though younger, was supposed to be a much better prospect.
It’s just amazing how advanced he is.
another close one…..
another long inning??
c’mon wang! show them what we taiwanese are made of!
Angels didn’t score.
two quick outs
cmon wang!
Did you see that ball Cano just threw? What the hell?
good inning wang!
lets get the bats going!
nice quick inning. Get him some more runs boys!!
92 mph on that last one he’s calming down, still can’t believe O’neil’s comments tonight, what a disgrace.
Wang with a fast inning, but he has got to keep the ball down. He gets in trouble when the ball does not stay down.
The Wanger got away with one for the first out but looked good after that. Maybe he is getting a little tired and getting more movement?
That was nice and fast.
Get some runs now
Except for that first batter, Chin is keeping the ball down. That’s a great sign for the rest of the game. And he was around 88 mph.
Wang had a nice inning, but he’s going to give me a heart attack if he keeps on letting those balls get out to the warning track.
“Did you see that ball Cano just threw? What the hell?”
bad throw?
“Did you see that ball Cano just threw? What the hell?”
bad throw?
yes!!! that was like a 7 pitch inning!
now lets go a couple more short innings to seal that quality start
That dirtbag Manny Ramirez just singled.
After thinking about it, I don’t have a problem with them keeping Montero in Charleston all season.
Selfishly, it means I get to see him on their next home stand! lol
Seriously, I hope they keep that entire team together this year.
They don’t need to rush anybody and I think that club could be special this year. Its always good to develop players and winning chemistry at the same time.
Its the problem with the big club, IMO. Too many guys who aren’t winning type of players.
I’d rather see them take it easy with the kids, develop them the way they want Yankee players to be. Both on and off the field.
OT for the game thread but I got my first copy of “The Stadium” magazine today. It is an 8 part special mag the Yanks are doing to commemorate the stadiums closing. Very cool and a nicely done publication.
btw what exactly was O’Neil’s comment that he made tonight?
i am watching mlb tv but it’s not broadcasted by yes network
what did he say?
SJ w/ Montero I’d agree take thier time, especially w/ that Charleston team.
“That dirtbag Manny Ramirez just singled.”
why is he a dirtbag? becasue he has long dredlocks?
SJ44 said,
They don’t need to rush anybody and I think that club could be special this year. Its always good to develop players and winning chemistry at the same time.
Its the problem with the big club, IMO. Too many guys who aren’t winning type of players.
I’d rather see them take it easy with the kids, develop them the way they want Yankee players to be. Both on and off the field.
AHMEN AND AHMEN!
May is fast approaching which means cold weather will no longer be a valid point for cold bats.
A breakout can be felt but when ?
what did O’Neill say?
Lost more respect for O’Neill tonight. Kay opened the door for him to put the issue to bed, but he proceded to hand it five coffees and two red bulls. Ridiculous.
Now, to the game. We gotta get some freaking runs. Wang has battled nicely through 4, can’t waste this start!!!
Take it easy on Manny, at least he doesn’t troll on a Yankee blog.
Is Abreu in a slump?
Paulie basically said that he had no idea that the fans were booing Hawkins because he was wearing his number. Then, when Kay told him that Jeter and Posada had talks with Hawkins about how he should just give the number up for peace of mind, he said that they were good guys for doing that. Basically, he made himself look worse than already has.
What a mess. I mean c’mon people, it’s just a number!
However bad move by Kay opening up the topic again.
I hate the way Manny Ramirez hot dogs it constantly, but, the guy is one of the greatest clutch hitters in the history of the game. The only other player I can think of that had that same kind of talent was George Brett.
CB,
I’ll be in Charleston this weekend for the start of their homestand. Can’t wait to see Montero and the rest of the team.
As far as O’Neill is concerned, as Tony Soprano would say, “he’s dead to me”. Kay gave him one last chance to man up and he wouldn’t.
Hopefully, the Yankees make a trade or callup somebody and just give him the damn number and be done with it.
Of all the issues surrounding this team, Paul O’Neill’s feelings aren’t even on the radar screen for me.
I just love how Red Sox fans are waiting in the wings, ready to pounce. Amusing.
Food for thought: let’s assume Paulie was being truthful and he really didn’t know fans were booing Hawkins because of the 21. Paul works a part-time schedule and has admitted that he doesn’t watch every game. Might it be possible that he thought they were booing Hawkins because of a bad outing on the road before the home opener?
Now as for his good guys comment, might it also be possible that he was calling Jeter and Posada good guys for looking out for their teammate?
“I hate the way Manny Ramirez hot dogs it constantly, but, the guy is one of the greatest clutch hitters in the history of the game. The only other player I can think of that had that same kind of talent was George Brett.”
I don’t deny that he is a very talented guy. However, his behavior at the plate and his hotdogging it in the field negates all of that IMO.
Bad move by Kay to bring it up again, but even worse move by Paulie to still keep this thing alive. He has had ample opportunity to say something, but he just won’t end it.
By the way, an excellent John Smoltz start has been wasted in Atlanta. They really need to get him out of the rotation and into the setup-man role if they want to win games.
Why can NO TEAM in MLB hold a lead against the Red Sox?
Why do they have a comeback against EVERY TEAM! This is becoming ridiculous. If this is the Red Sox team that is going to be around all season, keeping leads and coming back in almost every game, then we are in BIG trouble.
Aside from that airing of frustration, this game is going well so far without A-Rod. Hopefully Cano learns to hit before the game is over. Without A-Rod, he’s got to hit.
Kay was right in bringing it up. It was Paul’s first time in the booth and chance to really address it since it surrounds him and his former number. Nothing wrong with Kay in this case.
Paulie was there on Opening Day. They booed Hawkins before the game. He had to know what that was about. He can’t be that ignorant. Besides, the reports were all over the papers and on TV.
I don’t have a problem with what O’Neill said, what exactly would the perfect thing for him to say?
Wang getting squeezed again..
okay, a pitch by Wang was just clocked at 102 MPH on comacast. that gun has GOT to be juiced.
“I just love how Red Sox fans are waiting in the wings, ready to pounce. Amusing.”
like a ferocious tiger.
It wasn’t Paulie’s first time in the booth. He has been in it before and asked about it every single time.
very funny nick.
82 ptiches.
Going to top 8 in Boston, still 6-5.
Nick, just got your email and went and tried it myself and had no prob.
Try again. When you get the sign in screen, just use the info I gave you and it will bring you to a screen that says personal account or something like that. Just link to Scoreboard and open MLB TV through the Yankee game link.
The 21 fiasco will live on as long as we keep talking about it. Maybe if we stopped talking about it, they would too.
Sj-
I just read you’ll be in Charleston for the coming homestand. I’ll be going to a few of the games and can’t wait to see them in action again. Should be a great time.
Rich, more like the evil monkey in the closet
Steph – When? I could be wrong but I don’t remember him being in the booth since.
Even if Wang was throwing 102 right now, it ain’t helping him. Konerko’s up and he has mashed everything his way. ANd he does it there. 3-2 Sox.
Wang is pitching an awful game.
Yet another pitch right down the middle to Konerko hitting .100. Wang is dreadful
You know that Damon sucks anytime Jim Thome is running on him.
“Food for thought: let’s assume Paulie was being truthful and he really didn’t know fans were booing Hawkins because of the 21. Paul works a part-time schedule and has admitted that he doesn’t watch every game. Might it be possible that he thought they were booing Hawkins because of a bad outing on the road before the home opener?”
you can’t be serious what do you think his cell phone was ringing for on the off days from the booth, you know how many reporters tried to get his opinion on it, tonight he came off as a jerk, period.
As Damon’s string bean arm my god how many times do I have to watch that arm in LF
SJ,
We’re expecting detailed scouting reports from Charleston. If you get a chance to see Betances and Heredia would love to hear what you think. I’m happy with Betances season – it’s good to see him getting innings under his belt.
the non-ace ace
Like I said, if Wang doesn’t have it, he don’t get it late on, he just gets worse.
He is pitching much worse than his line is even showing.
Get out of this inning, than hand it to the pen.
Two bad starts in a row for the Wanger.
He was in the booth for the entire first week, basically, and I think he has had a couple of other appearances. Every time he was in there, Kay or someone brought it up to him, yet every time, he kept adding fuel to the fire by not putting the issue to rest. He has had plenty of opportunities to address the issue.
Now Hawkins is up in the pen.
ugh. i knew Damon had a bad arm, but i didn’t know he couldn’t get JIM THOME going from first to third. ugh.
If he can limit the damage, we can try to get back into this game.
Brandon – thank you for using “period” before the “.” so we knew you were ending the sentence.
Have you ever met a ballplayer? Some can be extremely self-involved. Paul doesn’t strike me as the type to read the papers nor watch TV. He is notorious for avoiding reporters both during his playing days and now.
It is possible. No amount of your punctuation can change that.
Okay got out of it, but I think that needs to be it for him. He is getting tagged. I know it is only 3 runs, but he doesn’t look good today at all.
“Rich, more like the evil monkey in the closet”
haha- hey, thats not nice!
do you think wang will be out for the sixth? seems he’s flirted with disaster all night.
as for the Braves game congrats to Smoltz, but my god one stupid throw away by Campilo and it goes from 1 – 0 to 6 – 0 in the 9th. How pissed should John Smoltz be ?
Well for a “dreadful” outing Wang is defenitely fighting out there. If he can give you 6 innings of 3 run ball on a terrible night you have to be winning that game.
Angel I don’t think of it as amazing so much as pathetic. I would feel like such a loser and a fraud if I hung around a S_X forum, skulking in the background reading their posts. To begin with you’d never catch me doing it since there is nothing whatsoever that could cause me to be that desperate as to want to hang out on any forum other than a Yankee forum – and ESPECIALLY not the stepchild of the AL East forum, the S-X!
Nice job of Angels tying the score!
GO ANGELS!!!
Great job Wanger, he showed some fight there, that is a very good sign for now and late in the year.
Is there an SI Article Curse?
Got out of it. Wake up bats.
Now 6-6 in Boston and a man on 2nd, 2 out. Timlin on the way in. Get Giambi to Boston, STAT!
I’m not sure it is his responsibility to condone or condemn fan behavior. Yes, he comes off as a jerk to some…but it is not his duty to say anything.
What year was it when the Yankees had that great record of come from behind wins? I think that cancer Sheffield was on the team then.
Even so, Westerner, if his phone is ringing off the hook with reporters wanting his opinion on the issue, he can’t say he hadn’t noticed.
” He does not just sit at 95 mph. He’ll hit 95mph but he’s usually around 92-94.
It’s very clear that he’s just too strong tonight. His ball issn’t moving or sinking.”
cb-
more than likely he’s over striding, which he has a tendency to do, which is giving him the extra velocity.
when his stride is too long, he gets under the ball creating backspin which keeps the ball up.
he needs to shorten his stride to give the ball a chance to sink.
this isn’t from me . it’s from neil allen who taught him the sinker.
I’m watching on MLB Extra Innings and I have to say that the White Sox announcers are the worst I’ve heard so far this season. Bigger homers than anyone, even Remy!
AHHH so that is what the problem is. The finger nail again.
“Get Giambi to Boston, STAT!”
No, we need to get Timlin to Chicago. I still say that we need to arrange for Timlin to pitch for every team we’re playing.
So now they’re checking his finger every inning? Oh great. Not the fingernail issue again!
You know, as bad as Wang has been tonight, he’s doing what a starter needs to do. Keep his team in the game.
The problems though are larger than Wang.
They don’t hit so, 3-2 feels worse than it should be.
Because of the ineffectiveness of Mussina, Hughes, and Kennedy so far, they need Wang and Pettitte to be great in each of their starts. That’s impossible.
He’ hanging tough. Unfortunately, they are just a disjointed, bad ballclub right now.
The roster issues are really coming back to bite them in the butt because they have no way to score unless they mash.
Its not a roster that has speed or athleticism. Just mashers.
When they don’t mash? We see what we are seeing tonight.
CB,
What I am going to do is just write down what I see in Charleston and just make one post about it when I get back on Monday. It will make it easier for everybody to read.
Wow, that is like the 4th time Matsui has been hit this year. He’s like the new Don Baylor. LOL!
Ouch that looked like it hurt.
Ow man, did Contreras miss that spot? Matsui’s hit in the hip or something. Good thing that ball wasn’t a bit more inside…
We will get to Contreras this inning…watch.
Is it just me or had Matsui been getting hit a lot lately? I mean he wasnt trying to plunk him with that dancer but geez he has been getting bruised up.
Steph – you’re assuming he answered his phone…or that beat writers even have his cell phone number.
I just think the moral indignation from some on the board is a bit overboard with everyone expecting a self-absorbed ballplayer to condone fan behavior in an altruistic gesture. In the real world, very few of those types of people exist.
i’ve lurked on sox blogs before, nothing wrong with that. but if i were rich, i’d just sit back and enjoy the great run the sox are having. the red sox have confidence, swagger & comeback moxie…much like the yankee dynasty years of 96-2000. but as a yankee fan i hope the lose, of course!
trisha- im peeking here to get the yanks score instead of gamecast tonight. unfortunately, gamecast doesnt show fan heartbreak.
CB,
Did Villalona take less money to sign with the Giants? I wonder why the Yanks didn’t up their offer (if they did in fact have one) if he was regarded as such an elite talent.
Wow, Jorge hit into a DP. I’m shocked.
How come I knew that was coming…Posada is the king of DPs.
this is jose contreras
I can’t recall the last season where the Yanks really had team speed. It seems they’ve had “masher” style lineups since 2002 or 2003.
You’re right Laura, I wasn’t thinking. Get Timlin to be Giambi’s in-game BP pitcher. Going to bottom 8, still 6-6.
Trisha, thanks, but I think maybe mlb.com tracks IP addresses or maybe multiple log-ins? Because I was able to log in ok, but then it wanted extra confirmation info. Grrrrr, DirecTV!
You get to the point where you can predict the DP’s. What a mess.
Too many guys swinging from their heels and nobody makes in game adjustments.
They have become a very easy team to pitch to and that puts more pressure on Yankee pitchers to be lights out. Not a good mix.
Argh-DP
I think everyone thought that DP was coming.
The other thing that annoys me about Hawk is that he talks to the players as if they can hear him. “Good play, Paulie. Good play”. He can’t hear you, you tool!
I thought Jeter was the king of DPs…
trisha, you need a man, or a woman!
“We will get to Contreras this inning…watch.”
I told you guys he’s an excessive groundball pitcher this is the toughest game of the series, but anyone other than Jenks can blow this game in that WSox BP.
At least the Flyers won in OT.
Rich, do you mean the generations of fan heartbreak your daddy grew up with?
you’re assuming he answered his phone…or that beat writers even have his cell phone number.
Welcome to the world of journalism and mass media. Paul himself WORKS for the media, saw the booing first hand, and his number is out there. Beat writers always find a way to contact somebody. It makes it even harder for Paulie to hide considering he was actually a player himself. Even if he didn’t answer his phone, there’s a pretty good chance he at least checked voice mails, since it doesn’t always say who called. If he didn’t, then he certainly heard enough about it while he was on the air. The broadcasters NEVER skirted the issue. They asked him every time he was in the booth about the uniform number.
If the Yanks were to lose this game, they would be only 1 game (?) ahead of the Tigers in the loss column. Almost unthinkable, considering how bad the Tigers started.
Dave,
No, he signed with the Giants because they offered him the most money. The Giants aren’t shy when it comes to being competitive in the Latin Market. They were in on Montero too.
I hope this is quick and easy. Keep it a 1 run game
Why is Wang still pitching?
This offense is beyond frustrating to watch.
randy,
I know whenever wang overstrides he gets in trouble, but I thought that was because he’d get his hand beneath the ball instead of staying on top and throwing off his usual downwards plane. But I didn’t think that would necessarily increase his velocity?
Scorpio – uh yeah.
I have never lurked on a S-X blog before but I can see you and I have entirely different takes on the S-X anyway.
There is no blog that could have any interest to me ever other than a Yankee blog.
the Yankees continue to make me roll my eyes.
Thanks SDJohn for this great spoiler…I wanted to watch that hockey game tomorrow. Great. You didn’t know that of course, but it’s a BASEBALL blog god damn it…
No baseball blog that is.
That obnoxious Sox fan is sitting next to a guy with a Yankees cap on. That guy should have clocked him one.
So much for theat off day helping the bats. As ugly as it’s been all year. Refusing to make adjustments and get runners over. And to think 3 more years of DP’s coming from Jorge, that’s enough to make you sick to your stomach. It’s physically naseauting watching this offense.
“Rich, do you mean the generations of fan heartbreak your daddy grew up with?”
haha- alas, no internets back then for my papa to commiserate with others. but nice retort, nonetheless.
trisha, whatever.
Can someone go over and punch that guy in the face. He sounds like he is falling down drunk so it shouldn’t be too difficult.
Laura Wang is still in the game because he is the best pitcher we have available outside of Mo and Joba. He had a 7 pitch last inning and is looking okay right now. What else can you do? Put in hawkins? or Farnsworth? lol Not much of an option imo.
Ellsbury just drag-bunted for a hit. Rem Dog almost passed out with love. Angels making pitching change.
(sorry if that update spoiled your watching of that game later, mko)
BD,
The giants gave Villalona a ton of money – the second highest international signing bonus ever – I think it was around $2 million.
The latin american international signee with the highest signing bonus ever – Willy Mo Pena. Hard to believe. But the yankees gave him 2.3M.
On the other hand if anyone would want to seek out heartbreak as a way of life of course it would be a S-X fan! I mean 86 years is a lot of heartbreak.
oh incase people want to know Montero is hitting 95 mph pitches
MKO, sorry about that. Just trying to focus on anything positive after watching our offense.
too many airballs off Wang tonite. And doubles!
I think the team is probably lacking some offensive confidence with A-Rod being out as well.
*two or FEWER runs
http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/posadjo01.shtml
He doesn’t hit into a ton of dp. Not sure where everyone is getting their info. Last year he into more. But look at the two prior years.
This is just going from bad to worse.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jeterde01.shtml
Now look at Jeter.
4 hops to 2nd base throw Damon, thank god
seeing eye garbage infield single by Uribe
take wang out before he blows this game out of reach.
Oh man, Ensberg has got to catch that ball.
If you want to rebuild this team with pitching, you can’t ignore defense. The defense is just awful.
Giambi once again showing why he can’t be in this team.
Come on, Wang. DP and you’re out of it.
Nice pitch Wanger.
If Wang can get out of this, he has raised his stature in my eyes big time.
and arod
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/rodrial01.shtml
It just seems to me, that the big club is going to need position players as soon as two years….A few of these guys are going to be fast tracked to AAA, so they might be able to contribute in 2010….I may be wrong, but after watching Hughes, Kennedy, and Chamberlain the past 2 seasons ( and they’re pitchers ) I don’t think you can rule their progression upward out….
No! Do not bring in Hawkins!!!
come on Wang. crap.
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Wang is still pitching because now would be a terrible time to start exhausting the bullpen with the next few games coming up.
Ensberg is flat out getting beat over there at 3rd.
Wang is getting tagged.
The double play is still killing us.
This team makes me grumpy.
He gone! lol!
Battle through this Wang
yes! he got out of it! whew!!
Sox up 7-6 on a Pedroyer double down the line. Rem Dog is gasping.
You guys talk about losing respect for Paul O’Neill. Well, the longer Joe G plays Giambi, he’s going to lose my respect. This guy cannot play 1B. He hurts the team each and every night. Do you see the Crock Sox playing Ortiz at first? Hell no. Why the hell do they keep trotting Giambi out there every night, hoping for a miracle? Trade somebody to PIT and get Minky back. First base problem solved.
3 runs in 6 innings = quality start… offense better wake up.
SJ I know that Ensberg hasn’t been there much this season but I can’t help but think that Arod would have made a few of the plays that he did not.
oh Morgan you better hit a double or something after that fielding display at 3B
trisha- i’m only 14 years old.
Nice!
Time for this offense to do something!
wang showed some guts tonight, he evidently didn’t have his stuff but gutted through 6 innings with only 3 runs
YESS, great job Wanger!!! I really liked how D.J. and the Hawk were almost in tears after that inning. HA!
Each of the Yes announcers get a stack of clips before they work their games. The clips contain all the stories re: the Yankees from the metro newspapers and they use it for their game prep.
Its impossible for O’Neill not to have known the furor that was going on with his number.
He even was a guest on Boomer and Carton 10 days ago and they brought it up to him on the show. He knew what was happening. For whatever reason, he chose to handle it the way he handled it.
That’s a pretty solid job by Wang tonight. He didn’t have his good stuff, his defense is an embarrassment, and he still produced a solid start.
That’s great work. Its up to the offense now not to waste it.
Laura I agree with you. So much for the new manager’s vow to play the best defensive team every night. The big G has to be moved to the bench asap.
the Angels can’t beat Boston, thank god they play the Rays after this.
That’s why
Wang didn’t have his stuff tonight (again
), but he battled . The offense on the other hand, continues to be ice cold. This teams looks like it either scores a lot of runs or no runs at all.
Should I try the Automatic Out call?
Wow. Wang pitched a ‘quality start’. That has to be the absolute worst ‘quality start’ I’ve ever seen.
hitting into the damn shift again !
Turns out, Giambi is not having a very good year in the Bronx.
One-eigthth the way through, he’s barely hitting .100, with only 5 hits. Even more impressive, only one of those hits is a single.
He’s got 59 PA. Has anyone ever had that many PA in a season with only one single? Let’s leave pitchers out of this one.
Turns out, Jason Giambi is on the verge of history. The record is 61 PA with only 1 single in a season, held by former shortstop Lyn Lary.
Best part of that list? Giambi used to be teammates with John Jaha, #4.
’course there’s a problem with the above logic. Giambi could go 60, 70, 100, 500 PA without another single, but the moment he does, he’s off the list.
My advice: take 3 more PA, Jason, and then go wash Jeff Kent’s truck. My settle for futility when history is right around the corner?
http://www.baseballreference.com…wow
Laura, please check your meds. And I don’t really think Girardi worries about losing your respect.
So quick poll… just saw the update on the score and inning by inning detail.
How many of you out there who ripped people for bagging on the offense two weeks ago still think “it will come around”?
This is NOT a good hitting team, not because it is early in the season but because they have lost sense of the strike zone. Belt high down the middle, layoff… 6 inches outside, swing. Pitcher throwing more balls than strikes, swing at the first pitch. Can’t hit the ball out of the infield.
Tampa Bay has better hitters…
all things considered, not bad for Wang only allowing 3 runs in 6 innings, since he wasn’t that sharp and the defense was pretty bad. if they lose, this one is on the offense.
I’m 1 for 3 with my Automatic Out calls. I think they need to be tabled for the night.
ROB NY – I was thinking the same thing. We are supposed to ignore trolls not feed them.
Thanks.
After homering going the other way what does Giambi do? Try to pull it in the next to AB’s. Dumbass
Great fight Wanger!
Does anyone know how that Betemit for Minky trade rumor got started? Was it just wishful thinking by someone here on the blog or was there a source?
Wang’s performance was not pretty..
But the score is 3-2 not 10-2..I’ll take it.
Now if only we can tie it up
“You guys talk about losing respect for Paul O’Neill. Well, the longer Joe G plays Giambi, he’s going to lose my respect. This guy cannot play 1B. He hurts the team each and every night. Do you see the Crock Sox playing Ortiz at first? Hell no. Why the hell do they keep trotting Giambi out there every night, hoping for a miracle? Trade somebody to PIT and get Minky back. First base problem solved.”
LOL – ‘Hey, Pittsburgh, we’d like Minky back. Here’s a bag of balls. You can thank us later’
Wang had absolutely nothing tonight. His sinker was non-existent.
Despite that he gutted through 6 innings and only gave up 3 runs.
He kept the team in the game on a day when his stuff simply was not there.
Early on this looked like it could be a very short start and the bull pen would get burned out again.
But he hung in there with nothing and fought through it.
The yankee starter gives up 3 runs in 6 innings the yankee offense should win that game.
OK, if that out by Giambi there doesn’t prove that the shift has completely shut him down, then nothing will.
He cannot expect to get past that defense, EVER. Either it’s over the wall, or it’s in a glove. He is killing us, and he’s going to continue to kill us.
Hopefully this will be the good Hawkins and not the disaster one.
can you hear the annoying guy yelling “MELKY” again.
Hmm, if you go the other way just once in awhile jason, that is a base hit. This buys him at least 2 more weeks in the lineup, cuz ” he hit the ball well, just right at people”. Of course he did, he keeps pulling it into the shift against 4 defenders. God damn dude, lay one down, take the outside pitch the other way. Do the exact opposite of what every instinct you have at the plate is. George Costanza made it work.
We should have eaten Contreras for lunch. Instead, the Old Man leaves with the lead.
This team is mediocre at best.
The Hawk and the D.J. are starting to sweat.
flyball pitcher in the game thank god !
Well Contreas is gone. Wish he pitched this well when he was with the Yankees!
Wang actually, in my opinion, has good stuff tonight. His ball is just moving too much and he isn’t getting the low strike call (something he usually gets).
Hopefully he can throw a quick 7th so the bullpen is fresh for any moose/hughes/ian starts to come.
Pat M,
I agree with your post. The kid pitchers will be fine. They are getting baptized under fire and it would help them if this team could score and defend. Unfortunately, at least to date, those two areas are woefully deficient.
You look at LF and 1B and its impossible to see how both guys are going to last the season at their respective positions.
They have to have career years with the bat to make up for what they cost you defensively and that ain’t happenin’.
It also hurts that Cano is slow out of the gate and Posada has been hurt. Add to it Arod being out and Jeter missing a week and it feels like this team just can’t bring any kind of positive energy into games. It looks and feels disjointed.
I’m probably not explaining it well.
Its a rough patch for sure but, I really think they are going to need reinforcements sooner rather than later this year at certain positions.
Shoot if Hughes or Kennedy pitched as “badly” as Wang just did, we would all be VERY happy.
This Yankee team is boring to watch. No excitement. How about calling up Brett Gardner already. Even play Alberto Gonzalez again. A least he has some life in him. They seem to be sleepwalking, but then again, I guess that’s how bad teams look. I was shocked to hear that Girardi let the players spend the off day in whatever city they wanted — instead of going to chicago as a team. With 2 flights in 2 days for many of these guys, no wonder they look tired.
I miss Ron Guidry.
Giambi -needs- to break the shift. He needs to concentrate on making sure every pitch he hits goes left. Even if it ‘ruins his approach’ for awhile.
Bottom Line – we lose this game it’s not Wang’s fault- he can’t get some props for being a warrior tonight? Cut the guy a break, jeees
I have a feeling that we have a lot of S_X trolls here assuming Yankee fan identities. For instance, there is no way that Dr. Cox would call the Yankees mediocre.
Cripes I’ve never seen a bigger bunch of Yankee groupies in my life than the step brothers and sisters who root for the S-X. Amazing.
SJ,
I’d love to hear what you think about Angelini in particular after you have a chance to see him.
He’s scuffling a bit right now.
“Wang had absolutely nothing tonight. His sinker was non-existent.”
3rd start in a row that this has been true. He could come out of it 2-1.
Wang’s pitch count is over 100. I doubt he’s coming out for 7th.
LETS GO YANKEES!!!! rally caps on
Considering that Wanger didn’t have his good stuff, I think he did a hell of a job to only give up 3 runs. If our offense was firing on all cylinders, we could have picked him up.
YES!!!!
Now let’s capitalize on it!!
Jennifer thanks for posting those stats re: GDIP. interesting.
Here we go JETE!!!!! no wammy!!!!!!!
Come on Derek, the only person who could succeed in this spot right now.
Hawk said that was a tie, but the replay clearly shows that Damon beat the throw.
Yes Damon!!
OK, third like lucky calling it? Jeter’s 2nd career grand slam coming?
oh this is a definite flyball pitcher here… lets go Jetes get the lead
Thank you Damon. I know you suck at hitting but at least you can still run.
nice job Damon beating that out for the If single.
I hate being negative. I really, really do.
But I can’t help to feel a double play ball to Cabrera right now.
Rally caps on!
Like I said, the Hawk and the D.J. are bitin’ their nails. C’mon Yanks make em pay!
If Jeets bounces into a DP, I’m going to rescind my offer to give birth to his children.
Well-not really much of a rally…but still..
come on Derek!
OK, you guys can hate on Paul O’Neill all you want. But watching this game with the White Sox announcers is plain old PUNISHMENT.
Good God, how is this even legal?
i’ll give props to wang, nice “gutting it out effort.”
nearly gave me a heart attack a few times but 3 runs only? that’s quality.
Well, this is where you look for a ball up, so be patient and at LEAST hit a fly ball, preferably not to RF. Take a pitch, cuz you know he’s throwing something with some downward movement.
Agree with all the positives on Wanger. He really gutted it out and he did come back and make better pitches. A little offense would actually do wonders to help Wanger win games!!
Come on captain clutch…!
Is it a WS rule that they have to sign all former Yankee pitchers?
surely we can get a couple of runs in since the bases are loaded and only one out…at least tie the ballgame!
Another bases loaded can they please get at least the tying run in
Pinch hit? lol,,, For goodness sake no DP Cap’n
lets go! no doubleplays here
Hey look it’s our old friend Dotel.
Boone Logan, what a great name. i wonder if he has a smell hound named Geech?
Captain DP at the plate… but Dotel is a crap shoot so … SHOW-ME- HOMER!
That is NOT Dr. Cox.
Good try cave troll!!!
Come on Jeter…make Dotel pay!
WS announcers call everyone by their initials. Not sure if it’s comical or just annoying. It’s like they think all the WS are their best friends.
You can’t seriously have the bases loaded and not score. Come on Yankees.
What does Michael Kay say if Hawkins comes in to pitch ?
“Now on the hill for the Yankees is No. 22, LaTroy Hawkins, formerly No. 21″.
Game over in Boston, 7-6 final.
baahhh
K’s swinging. Argh!!!
oh yeah, and don’t K.
That’s it. I will not be giving birth to Jeter’s kids.
I agree , there’s alot of seemingly dead wood on the club…..We all know that by summer there’s many options to call upon for the mound…It’s on the field that’s more troubling for me…..I see Cashman taking several flights South to watch the progress in Charleston…..He may be taking a few with him to Trenton…There’s red flag alerts in the Bronx FO…..
Dammit Jeter. You gave them an opportunity to say “he gone”.
Jetes WTF !
com’on Bobby pick it up for us
Beats hitting into a DP.
FANTASTIC… Nice piece of hitting…. maybe next time you can swing at one above your head.
Comon Bobby. Please get a hit.
Dreadful at bat. Umpire gave him that pitch and then Jeter went fishing. This team just does not know how to get a runner in from 3rd, or situational hit.
Angel, you haven’t watched to many 08 Yankee games yet eh?
I’ll take a walk.
At least no chance for DP. I would’ve threw up if that was a DP.
cb-
someone small like lincecum creates the velocity by an outrageous stride.
when pitchers slide step they have a shorter stride and less velocity. a longer stride definitely helps create velocity.
i was fortunate enough to talk with allen this past winter in spring training about wang, and he said he had to constantly remind him to keep his stride shorter. because allen taught wang the sinker at a late date in wang’s career, wang’s natural stride is not the stride you’d want for the sinker.
i’m sure eiland knows this. it’s just a matter of keeping on wang and reminding him constantly.
Jeter strikes out, I don’t believe it. He can’t even get one run in.
BOBBY !!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It does beat a DP, I’ll admit. And Bobby’s up, so we know he’ll be selective. GRAND SLAM ABREU!
lol Hawk is trying to convince Dotel to throw strikes. “Aw no baby come on now”
ABREU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK yah
I love Bobby!!!!!!!!!!!
HOLY SH*********T!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I called Bobby’s GS….in my head….way to go Bobby. BIG TIME HIT THERE.
take that hawk!
Oh Bobby, thank you!
I am having Bobby’s children. My fantasy team also thanks you.
Ahi va la bola!!!
GRAND SLAM!!! way to go abreu
Thank god for Abreu. And thank god Jeter struck out and didn’t GIDP. Actually, I think the announcer’s HE GONE!” pissed me off more than Jeter’s strikeout. Hah.
Thank you Abreu!! You pick up the Captain. Now with the lead Hawkins better get people out.
can I go to bed now?
Thank you Bobby Abreu
home run! bray bray!
HOLY CRAP!!!!!
Finally no more stranded runners!
Damn! Bobby’s good
See, Bobby wasn’t afraid of going over the wall that time!
Call me crazy but, I go Joba for 2 and Mo for the 9th.
I don’t trust anybody else in that bullpen with a lead.
Well done, Steph. Nice call there.
Bobby!!!
Hells Yeah! Grand slam!
BOBBYYYYYY
Wanger owes Bobby a steak dinner.
THE SALAMI! ITS SO SPICY!
“A GRAND SLAM HOMER, AND THE YANKEES LEAD IT SIX TO THREE. ALL STARTED WITH THE WALK.” – THE HAWK
Hey Hawk, whaaaa hopppened. Oh, Iove beating these guys.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBYYYYYYYYYYYY
So does this count as Wang’s win?
On MLB.Com we have the honor to watch the CWS TV crew. They are just awful and I mean awful. they root for the team instead broadcasting the game. Just awful
OK, I called the slam, just wrong batter lol
Incredible way to get the lead back.
Pepper why yes, I still believe in the Yankees offense!!!
Pitch THAT, you little faggot S-X groupies!
I just turned it from YES, to Comcast. they don’t sound to happy over there>
lets go Georgy send another one out of here
LOL Dotel’s got nothing left. Can we hope for some more insurance runs?
Yep, they’d need a much bigger lead for me to feel comfortable with anyone else for the 7th to 9th.
That mic in the Yankee dugout is on high. You can hear everything they say.
Wang will get the win (please) and he really battled this game to really earn it and show his maturity in grinding it out when his command wasn’t there. God, I hope we keep the lead.
yes, if bp holds lead, wang gets win #4.
BOBBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhhh that was sweet lol, I dont think i could have handled the frustration of the bases being left loaded, and he did the exact opposite! way to step up for the team too, that was ever so much-needed!
wow, this is great
what a swing in momentum
These White Sox announcers are ridiculous. Gotta love the “WHERE WAS THAT” on the 1-2 pitch to Jeter.
Colin it would count as a Wang win – but it ain’t over yet.
Could this Chicago broadcast be any worse? They can’t ever get the count, outs, or who’s due up right, and then, after Abreu’s slam, they focus on Melky in the dugout, clearly thinking they were showing Abreu.
Attaboy Bobay!!
SJ, with a 3 run lead at least, I give Bruney the 7th, Joba the 8th and Mo the 9th. But if Bruney gets in trouble, I go to Joba!
I’d feel more comfortable if we had a few more runs. Don’t trust Hawkins no matter what number he’s wearing.
Wang really gutted through his performance tonight. He left a lot of balls over the plate, but given how much he could have been tagged, he did a very good job giving up only 3 runs.
SJ
You are not crazy.
6-3 Charleston in the 9th in Savannah.
Montero is 3-5. Now hitting .373. Carmen Angelini has 2 hits and an RBI. He has 5 hits in the last two games and is starting to heat up with the bat.
If they hold onto this lead, they go to 16-3 for the season.
wow the language on this blog got pretty bad with a Yankees grand slam lol. and this is coming from a drunk college kid.
looks more like 1-10 if the lead holds
“Call me crazy but, I go Joba for 2 and Mo for the 9th.
I don’t trust anybody else in that bullpen with a lead.”
Yet Joba should be starting?
Sounds like a fun Yankee game to be watching.
Thanks DirecTV.
I’d probably let Bruney come in for the 7th. Oh hey, nevermind, he’s up in the pen. YES read my mind by showing that shot.
weeks of frustration brian.
I actually feel fine with the three run lead, don’t ask me why. I certainly wouldn’t mind more of course.
Credit to DJ for only taking himself down. I’m sure at least a few of us were praying that he wouldn’t GDP on that one!
Ah nothing like Yankee heartbreak. Uh, what IS that, by the way?
we need more runs. please, nobody jinx. i’m not comfortable going to bed yet…damn
trisha , yo mamas a little faggot groupie
Bruney can handle the 7th, he has been good this year
Neil…… It was inside
I love the boo boo !
saw that big fly coming and Jetes should have had a sac fly on that pitch instead of striking out. Dotel is a flyball pitcher he should have hit that. Nice clutch hitting by Bobby (I can’t believe I siad that
)
16-3…wow. That’s incredible. That team is just stacked, from the line-up to the pitching staff. There’s no easy spot. And Montero. What can you say? That kid is incredible.
The more Girardi pitches Bruney in these situations he is just daring him to walk the bases loaded. But then again I guess he has no one else to pitch.
Aw man. YES just turned off the feed. Now I have to use MLB.tv. Dang it.
Im with the grafxkid. No lead is safe with the Mush crew Bruney/Farnsworth/Hawkins to handle the 7th. Were a walk a bloop and a blast from a tie game here. Bruney can show some more rocks in this situation but since Tampa I dont have a whole lot of faith in the guy.
dave, yo mamma jokes stopped being funny like 5 years ago bro.
Nick – try my account again. You definitely should be able to get in.
lets hope traber gets out thome!
go yankees!
Good call by Girardi
com’on ground out
Oh, come on. Throw strikes!!!
Traber’s in for Thome.
blah….
I agree with Buck Foston. Who cares what goes in silly Beansville. The Yankees take care of their own business and everything else falls into place.
Oh, a DL stint for Papelbon wouldn’t hurt.
Can’t walk him Traber.
PK, go back to your cave you ugly freak.
Lead off walk after going up 3 runs. Brilliant. Traber is NOT an upgrade over Myers.
Wang, I thought, did a very admirable job. You could say in the past that he’s been guilty of being all or nothing in the sense that he wouldn’t really gut it out without his good stuff. However, tonight – different story…..and per YES, he was having fingernail problems to boot. Good job by Wang…….
boo leadoff walks
Don’t ya love it when your lefty specialist doesn’t get out lefties? It’s like Mike Myers is pitching.
Can’t walk him Traber. Gotta go after him. Horrible, just horrible.
Please Oh Please don’t blow this lead…I really don’t want to go to bed mad. Mom always said never go to bed upset or mad.
Traber has not got the job done recently. I remember them saying that lefties are hitting .300 against him or some really high number. You do not want to bring in Bruney with men on base. Why do I sense a 2 run homer..
ahh..just throw him strikes
walks suck
Another lefty specialist who can’t get lefties out. Wonderful.
They need guys in the bullpen to get outs. Its a waste to have a lefty specialist who can’t get lefties out.
I think that’s 5 of the last 6 lefies he’s faced have reached base. Not good enough.
Get rid of him, call up Albie and just go with guys who can get outs out of the ‘pen.
A lefty specialist who can’t get lefties out, is yet another wasted spot on a roster. Something the Yankees don’t have the luxury of having right now.
Give up a 500 foot bomb versus a walk there. Damn. Anyone else starting to think Traber’s starting to come back down to earth after the good start? Hope I’m wrong, he’s only got one job, get out lefties.
Looks like CC Sabathia has found his grove.
The Yankees definitely don’t need another LOOGIE. Hopefully Bruney attacks the zone and gets Konerko.
Maybe Joba for 2 wasn’t a bad plan.
lets go bruney!
DirecTV finally kicked in, thank goodness. Missed the grand slam, but at least I get to see Bruney pitch.
SDJohn
April 22nd, 2008 at 10:41 pm
dave, yo mamma jokes stopped being funny like 5 years ago bro.
I think the point dave was making was that calling people “faggots” has never been funny except to people with the maturity of a seven year old.
how dare YES show Farnsworthless in the pen just now!!
They’re chanting Paul O’Neill’s name in Chicago. LOL!
Really CC ? 6 innings 11 strikeouts and 2 walks? So who was it that didnt want to send a yacht full of money to THAT guy’s house this winter?
Nick, you’ll get it on the YES postgame as well as Baseball Tonight.
GO BRUNEY!
This is what I would have to seriously think about. Why have Ohlendorf in a long man role versus a situation just like this. I think we all agree, when Joba goes into the rotation, Ross may very well be that 7th or 8th inning guy. I think he is being absolutely wasted doing what he’s doing now.
They were chanting “Paulie” for Paul Konerko
Let’s go Bruney.
Traber is as bad as, if not worse than Myers.
seriously, have we had a reliable left specialist since stanton?
Throw. A. Strike.
“Really CC ? 6 innings 11 strikeouts and 2 walks? So who was it that didnt want to send a yacht full of money to THAT guy’s house this winter?”
I’d be more impressed if he weren’t doing this against the Royals.
Dear god
Edwar and Patterson are doing well throwing strikes in AAA although Patterson is starting to give up hits and an ocassional run.
Bruney WTF !
It wouldn’t be a Yankees game without the tying run coming to the plate after taking a three-run lead.
If I had hair, I’d pull it out!! Strikes, guys…S-T-R-I-K-E-S-!
This is an enormous spot for Bruney. He’s done well when coming in with the bases clear.
There’s only one man on first. This should be a situation he gets out of.
Guess the Joba transition started, otherwise I would think he would be in the game.
Bruney is clearly overthrowing.
A walk? Are you kidding?
ugh…throw strikes!!
Yeah, nice strategy, let’s walk a few more batters! Ridiculous. Bring in Joba now.
What a crock of Sh*t throw some strikes stop walking people
bruney, get some strikes.
did you just hear them say joe g. can’t get any more gray hairs?
I believe Paulie is for Paul Konerko
I can understand waiting on Giambi and Damon a bit, but I would like to know why the Yankees think they need Billy Traber given the circumstances of the starting rotation? Also, what on earth did Alabajeo do wrong to be sent down? He not only pitched pretty well for us, but he gave us innings. How exactly is Joe not impressed by that? I can not understand his mentality…….not to lay it all on him; I guess blame has to go to Brian, too. Both of them need to get a clue and soon.
No doubt he’s being wasted in that role……I’ve supported Bruney, but he’s killing me…SOB…..Is Joba ready ????
That 1st pitch to Dye was BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruney, you’re freakin’ me out. Get it together, buddy!
C’mon Yankees, you’re giving Hawk and DJ life.
Unbelievable!! The new brian bruney indeed.
This is exactly why I just don’t trust bruney at all in a big spot.
Ross Ohlendorf should be pitching these innings.
Why even allow the tying run to come to the plate.
Unacceptable to walk him there.
new Bruney please take over that body
ahh, the heck with it…”swing, batta, batta, batta…sa-wing”
Bruney can not be trusted. I know they like his stuff but he is way too inconsistent. It is either walks or straight fastballs.
Oh My God, he’s praising the WS’s ability to check their swing. You gotta be kidding me.
When DirectTV kicked in for you, it went out for me. Ah well. MLB.tv is giving a horrible feed.
Come on Bruney. Throw strikes! Just not ones over the middle of the plate.
This is so retarded. You have the heart of the order coming up on the 7th, but you can’t bring in Joba because he’s the 8th inning guy. This is so dumb. This is Joe Torre dumb.
Argh
come on!
Missed his spot by 8 inches on that last pitch. Thank god he swung through that
See this is how this season differs from 1996. Back then Mariano pitched multi innings regularly. This year, Joba is only really slated to pitch the 8th. Anything more and Girardi feels like he is pushing Joba’s limit.
“Bruney is clearly overthrowing.”
That’s exactly what he always does when he’s in trouble.
Always. You keep waiting for him to just get it and stop overthrowing. He has more than enough velocity to get people out.
But marginal pitchers always overthrow.
Now that was unfortunate.
dammit a good 1B gets that !
“There’s no one for Giambi to throw to?” What???
How about we start to stretch out Joba…. now?
See what happens when you don’t have a real first basemen?
Not Bruney’s fault on that ball, but he has to cover first there.
I admit it. I was wrong, SJ was right, should have gone to Joba to start.
thanks jake
Joba!
sigh
Bases loaded…oh boy.
Great Lefty specialists… Great Defensive 1st baseman… Definately need to keep Giambi in the line up.
Jason Giambi strikes again.
How in the world are you going to win games when you can’t throw strikes and don’t have a first baseman. Its just brutal to watch.
This is the New York Yankees and they are playing a guy at first base who can’t catch the ball.
I guess they just like losing because its inexcusable to not have a first baseman on the roster.
That’s the Bruney we know and effin can’t stand!!!!!!!!!!
Jobaaaa boy am I happy to see you.
Joba isnt ready to throw….
This really bugs me….No matter how far behind, Sox always seem to come back & win…….And no matter how big the Yankee lead is, they always struggle to hang on for dear life!!!!!!!!
JOBA!
Playing Giambi at 1B = Not Wanting to Win Games
Now he brings in Joba with the toughest spot he’s ever come in. That’s fine, he’ll handle it. Hopefully Joe won’t screw around with Traber and Bruney next time and just let Joba pitch two. Remember Mariano is well rested too, he can pitch more than 1 inning.
This is just absolutely a joke. How can you build a team with Giambi as the 1st baseman AND even better they do not have one real 1st baseman on the team. How does Giambi not have a defensive replacement???!! Obviously Cashman doesn’t like 1st baseman or starting pitching. Girardi is asking too much of Joba..why not just bring him in after the walk to the lefty?
Why can’t things be easy for us?
Be good Joba
Girardi is a terrrrrrrrrible manager. Terrrrrrrrrible.
His leaning on Giambi is pathological. Although, granted tonight, I’m not sure if we have the first base option, but Giambi is offering us nothing at all out there.
this is seriously ridiculous a groundball to Giambi and he…. ughhh !!!
IT’S JOBA TIME !
This speaks a little to what this pen looks like when Chamberlain is a starter. Ain’t pretty.
“No, the Yankees don’t need a player with a good glove to play first base late in games. Jason Giambi is just fine. What could go wrong?”
Pete, you are quite the comedian. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
You have a weapon in Joba Chamberlain. Instead, you entrust your lead to Billy Traber and Brian Bruney.
As the old saying goes, “you get what you pay for”.
A monumentally dumb decision and hopefully it doesn’t cost them the game.
“This speaks a little to what this pen looks like when Chamberlain is a starter. Ain’t pretty.”
Ohlendorf should have been pitching there
Joba-boy am I glad to see you.
Betemit would be the defensive replacement for Giambi. Ensberg is stuck at third now and we don’t know how he’d do at first over the long haul. Duncan is bad defensively at first. Nick Johnson sure would look nice in pinstripes now.
I wonder if Cashman is making Joe G play Giambi. That’s the only thing that would explain his actions.
And somewhere Ross Ohlendorf is rotting on the bench watching Bruney pitch in crucial spots, when he knows the only time he sees any innings is after Kennedy or Hughes is out after 3. C’mon Girardi, your better than this.
Giambi is just horrendous in the field. Just completely unacceptable.
He’s unfathomably bad in the field.
Before the season started many people said that Giambi’s high OPS would make up for his poor defense.
First base defense doesn’t count that much – and in general that’s true but Giambi is orders of magnitude worse than even a bad defensive first baseman.
What a mess. And now Joba has to come clear it up.
This entire inning was entirely unnecessary.
Bruney once again fails in his role. He is just not a reliable or good pitcher when he comes in with men on base. So far this season he’s been fine when he comes in at the top on an inning with the bases clear.
But he’s been very poor when he comes in with a man on base – tonight – just a guy on first. No big deal.
And Bruney amplifies the problem by walking Konerko. That is exactly what he would have done last year. Exactly the same.
You can’t walk guys as a relief pitcher. You just can’t.
I think Cashman doen’t need to wait 1/3 of the season to see what he needs…He can get an early start spending the next 3 months trying to acquire the pieces……Where’s EyeChart ????
He gone!!!!!!!
Girardi must think that Torre is a moron because he did not play Giambi at 1st base every day. What part of Giambi is not a 1st baseman doesn’t Girardi doesn’t understand?!! Also he plays him at 1st base every single day. Girardi thought he could change Farns.. Torre treated these players the way they should of been treated. Giambi should play 1st 2 times a week and other wise sit on the bench. He is dreadful.
Girardi is a man who gave his players a clean slate. However, I trust that he is learning from each mistake, because he is sure making plenty of them. Good K by Joba.
He gone!
“Ohlendorf should have been pitching there”
Maybe. He’s no great shakes, especially when it comes to inherited runners, but I agree he’d have been the right guy to start the inning.
Come on….Joba…..!!!
Posada is playng goalie back there
Ok, I have to agree with you guys about Joba not coming in. How inconsistent is that? In that game a week or so ago (or was it more, I forget……and I forget which team we were playing), Joe brought Joba in in the 7th because that was the game right there and the heavyweights were due up. So……..that was good enough for him at that point and not in this situation? Wow.
“You have a weapon in Joba Chamberlain. Instead, you entrust your lead to Billy Traber and Brian Bruney.
As the old saying goes, “you get what you pay forâ€.
A monumentally dumb decision and hopefully it doesn’t cost them the game.”
Agreed – your best pitcher should have started the 7th.
I was hoping Girardi would be willing to break the mold of what you’re ’supposed’ to do (closer pitches 9th and setup man pitches 8th). No luck :-s
Traber – Bruney. Thanks Joe G.
trisha -
Thanks for jinxing the Angels you horse faced, fat assed, racist homophobic freak.
HA. You put your hex on Joba you stinky buck toothed ho bag!
Joba gets out of a big mess with minimal damamge.
It’s going to be hard to trust the bridge to Mo to anyone other than Joba.
Wow, Joba, not you. Didn’t expect that from you. Don’t be afraid..go after them.
The idea wasn’t that Ohlendorf should’ve been brought in instead of Joba here, but that he should have been brought in instead of Traber or at least instead of Bruney.
I think.
Meanwhile, nice work by Joba.
Crede walks and the lead is now 6-4. Ugh.
BS call…that is strike 3 ALL FLIPPIN’ DAY !
Uck, I just realized this is going to give Mike and the Mad Dog more evidence to support there wrong argument that Joba belongs in the pen. He is damn impressive and would be in any role, it just should be the one where he faces more batters.
Argh a run walked in…Joba
At least damage limited.
God bless you Joba!!
Gave me a scare, but we’ve still got the lead.
Walks are killing us!
Man…. thinking of Joba as the fireman for 7th and 8th inning….. with Mo in the 9th…. for 3 more years? Thats awful tempting…
“HE GOT A COOKING AND POPPED IT UP…OOOOOOOOOHHHH.” – THE HAWK
Thanks Joba, you made the Hawk cry.
“I wonder if Cashman is making Joe G play Giambi. That’s the only thing that would explain his actions.”
This is absolute nonsense. Cashman does not and has never dictated what the line up and position players should be.
Girardi is the manager and this is girardi’s decision. He’s the one who is responsible.
To suggest that it’s cashman is insulting to both cashman and girardi.
All through spring training Girardi said that HIS plan was to play Giambi at first base as much as possible if he was helathy.
Girardi has stuck with that plan.
This is a manager’s decision. Don’t scapegoat the general manager because you can’t understand Girardi’s logic.
I suppose it’s also cashman forcing Girardi to use Ohlendorf in long relief and to be trust Bruney?
This is what I’ve been saying all along. If we move Joba to a starter, who are we going to bring in to cleanup these kinds of messes?
Glad to see that the Yankees aren’t the only team that can leave the bases loaded.
I don’t think Joba was too pleased with his walk though. Seemed like he was shaking his head.
I think Joba is only a 1 inning pitcher when he has to come into these high pressure situations. Usually the 2nd inning he has nothing. Like he is so geared up to strike every one out and then the next inning has nothing left. I guess we will see what happens because I doubt Farns can be trusted in this game.
Joe just want to give Joba some experience working out of bases loaded jams.
Sterling says, “what a Joba by Joba.”
and who actually cares what Mike and the Mad Dog think about ANYTHING ???,,,,,the eediots that they are….
We need to clone Joba
Thank god for him….
I still think he will be a kick butt starting pitcher
Yankees new manager looks a lot like Yankees old manager…
I wanted change.
The Sultan of Bruney should have been covering 1B. That play was as much his fault as Giambi’s.
And there’s no excuse for Billy Traber’s lead-off walk.
Gotta love Joba’s poise there, although O’Neil–
“I need SAP to listen to Bobby Abreu and I am really a moron besides”– was right: Joba hung that last pitch.
Thank god, Uribe isn’t a very good hitter.
“This is absolute nonsense. Cashman does not and has never dictated what the line up and position players should be.”
How do you know? Are you there behind the scenes in the Yankees organization? We don’t know what the hell is going on. Heck, Cashman could be up in a booth somewhere calling the shots. We don’t know. I was just hypothesizing. Not a crime last time I checked.
“Maybe. He’s no great shakes, especially when it comes to inherited runners, but I agree he’d have been the right guy to start the inning.”
14 IP, 19:11 (GO/AO) 13 K’s
(he should have been up there before Bruney)
Walked in a run because he wasn’t in the damn game to start the inning.
That’s just unacceptable.
Brian Bruney has had 3 non-soft landing games this year. He has failed all 3 times.
I’m not a math major but, that’s a 100% failure rate.
So, we start the inning with our lefty “specialist”, who can’t get lefties out anymore, and he walks the leadoff guy.
Given ANOTHER chance to make up for the misstep, Girardi goes to the guy with the 100% failure rate instead of the guy with the ZERO% failure rate.
Its tough enough to win games when 3/5th’s of your starting rotation can’t pitch, you can’t hit, and you don’t have a first baseman.
Its IMPOSSIBLE to win games unless Joba and Mo finish the games.
They have probably 8 guys on the roster who can’t play a lick of baseball and 3 of them (Traber, Bruney and Giambi) almost cost them the game in that inning.
Gotta fix the roster Brian. I don’t care if its April, you can’t play games with 30+% of your roster completely unable to play the game.
Well that’s something you don’t see very often…..Three walks by three different relief pitchers in one inning, and only one run scored….
“This is what I’ve been saying all along. If we move Joba to a starter, who are we going to bring in to cleanup these kinds of messes?
Glad to see that the Yankees aren’t the only team that can leave the bases loaded.”
:snore:
Thank goodness the Yankees’ brass are going to ignore these fears.
If Joba is an ace, we won’t need a bullpen in his starts. Think about that. Unlikely (at first), but the -potential is there-.
How often does the bullpen blow a 3 run lead in the 7th inning? Tonight was awful, definitely. But how often does that occur? NOT ENOUGH TO WASTE AN ACE IN THE BULLPEN.
Awwww…why didn’t Joe throw in Farnswoth…or at least Hawkins!
Shhhhhh. Be vewy vewy quiet. If you wisten hard enough you’ll hear the sound of the S_X groupies making their way to the groupies cry room.
Thanks “Jake!” Thanks “Dave!” Thanks “John!” Thanks “Dr. Cox!” Thanks “Johnboy!”
The S-X trolls have more fake IDs than a collegetown bar on 2 for 1 Friday night!
Never would I say Ohlendorf over Joba. But he should have started the inning over traber or brought in before Bruney. Ross is wasted in his current role. Joba will be a starter, those not seeing that are dumb, blind, or both. Ross will see 7th and 8th inning pressure situations when Joe realizes that Bruney, and Farsnworth can’t do it. And I hope that’s soon.
And next up at bat, the worst first base men ever!!!
Paul O’Neill just basically added nothing to the ’should Joba start?’ discussion.
Cone did little better, but he was less annoying about it.
Uuuhhh…somebody needs to take shi7lips home, he’s had enough to drink tonite.
To further amplify the dysfunction that is the Yankee roster right now, they can’t even pinch hit for the .100 hitting first baseman with no glove right now because there is nobody on the bench.
Just have him bunt the guy over and stay out of the DP.
“This is a manager’s decision. Don’t scapegoat the general manager because you can’t understand Girardi’s logic.”
Exactly. You scapegoat the general manager for not being able to squeeze in an MLB level 1B under his $210M budget. The on the field stuff is on Girardi.
Hey shouldn’t we let the Yankee organization and tomorrow take care of itself and just concentrate on winning tonight’s game?
Positive energy!
who wants to bet Giambi hits into the shift again …
I think the more Bruney and Fransworth do bad the more you at least for a year or two need Joba in the 7th and 8th innings.Yes a stater pitching 6 innings is great but thats every 5 days.I rather have him pitch three days in a row for 5 innings.
The Yankees wouldhave used Fransworth if Joba wasn’t in the pen.
At least Giambi still has his famous good eye. He watched that one pretty closely.
Great AB by Giambi. At least he didn’t hit it into shift for a DP. Great contribution to the inning.
At least if he was hitting, you could “almost” excuse the fielding. But he’s dead meat at the plate. Can’t even move a runner over.
Damn SJ I hate when you talk so much sense…. Can I add Farnsworth and Hawkins to your list of the useless?
nevermind ball outside to drive to LF he rather take it than slap it.
“Maybe. He’s no great shakes, especially when it comes to inherited runners, but I agree he’d have been the right guy to start the inning.”
Ohlendorf has been taking one for the team all season.
He is not a long reliever. Not in anyway. He’s new to the pen and was only used as a short man. That’s it.
Ohlendorf WAS NOT stretched out in spring training. Not at all. He threw one inning outing all through spring training.
They could have stretched him out but they decided not to.
And so far this season not only has he been asked to fill a role he’s never been in before but is also getting overworked. That’s an enormous burden to place on a rookie.
Ohlendorf has not been used yet in his proper role. He has outstanding stuff and terrific control. Until they get him in that role criticizing what he’s done in long relief is off the mark. That’s not what he’s been prepared to do.
Last year when they moved him to a one inning role he found that he was able to bare down and throw at 96-97 for 20-30 pitches.
Now he’s being asked to throw 50 pitches and he’s had to change the approach he developed as a reliever last year in the pen.
He’s being misused.
Giambi’s corpse, back to the dugout please.
Olendorf’s job is to pitch innings 3,4 and 5 when the kiddies can’t get out of the 3rd inning. Just a pathetic way to waste him.
ugh, MoBoy, you will seize on any opportunity to recycle your weak sauce about Joba, won’t you?
Anyone else chuckle at that Bumble Stumble by Bruney? I think he might have split his pants on that one.
Keep in mind that Mussina starts tomorrow night. That by itself says the rest of the bullpen will be needed unless there’s an outrageous amount of run support and even then how bad will Mussina get pounded ?
The lack of flexability with this roster is now glaring.
holy crap..indians winning 15-0 wow
“Hey shouldn’t we let the Yankee organization and tomorrow take care of itself and just concentrate on winning tonight’s game?”
I would, Trisha – except that tomorrow is just going to bring another game with Giambi at first and I don’t think I can stand it much longer. It is beyond insane for an organization with the resources that the Yankees have to be playing a non-player at a crucial position. It’s not like we’re the Florida Marlins and we are strapped for cash. We’ve got all this money and we can’t get a real first basemen? It’s beyond ludicrous and embarrassing to boot.
“I think the more Bruney and Fransworth do bad the more you at least for a year or two need Joba in the 7th and 8th innings.Yes a stater pitching 6 innings is great but thats every 5 days.I rather have him pitch three days in a row for 5 innings.
The Yankees wouldhave used Fransworth if Joba wasn’t in the pen.”
:snore:
Leave him in the bullpen this year. He throws 70 innings, max. Anything more than that is too stressful on a reliever arm.
Next year, the same.
Then finally, in 2010, you start the slide to starter, where he can throw 100 innings. He can finally throw 200+ in 2013 or 2014.
No.
Jo, who they playing?
“Maybe. He’s no great shakes, especially when it comes to inherited runners, but I agree he’d have been the right guy to start the inning.â€
Ohlendorf has been taking one for the team all season.
He is not a long reliever. Not in anyway. He’s new to the pen and was only used as a short man. That’s it.
Ohlendorf WAS NOT stretched out in spring training. Not at all. He threw one inning outing all through spring training.
They could have stretched him out but they decided not to.
And so far this season not only has he been asked to fill a role he’s never been in before but is also getting overworked. That’s an enormous burden to place on a rookie.
Ohlendorf has not been used yet in his proper role. He has outstanding stuff and terrific control. Until they get him in that role criticizing what he’s done in long relief is off the mark. That’s not what he’s been prepared to do.
Last year when they moved him to a one inning role he found that he was able to bare down and throw at 96-97 for 20-30 pitches.
Now he’s being asked to throw 50 pitches and he’s had to change the approach he developed as a reliever last year in the pen.
He’s being misused.
FOR THE TRUTH !
is it me or are u guys hearing some dude calling “melky… melky” the whole game.. so irritating ( on the white sox feed of Mlb tv)
I hope Melky hits one out just to shut that a-hole up.
Why does that irritating fan only yell for Melky? I mean yeah he’s got a pretty sweet name but come now… who does that?!
the royals..the royals had meche pitching though
Cashman isn’t telling Girardi who to play. He’s never done that. That’s on Girardi.
He should have had Giambi bunt Cano over. I don’t want to hear any nonsense from Giambi that he, “doesn’t bunt”.
In that game situation, when you are hitting a .100, you bunt.
Instead, he K’s. At least it wasn’t a DP but, again, poor fundamentals in a close game.
lol I was thinking Melky is going to find this schmuck in the parking lot later…. Melky seems like a bar room brawler to me.
If we see that Ohlendorf is being wasted, WTF is Girardi watching? I’m not a Girardi “basher” by any means, but damn dude, c’mon. I think it will only be a little longer before he figures out Bruney and Farnsy. Took him a little bit to see Betemit as a wasted roster spot, but he figured it out. He will do the same. His hands will be tied and they will rot in the pen and come in in mop up games but that’s about it.
Nick in SF-
Guess you didn’t watch the game.YOu must be those Fransworth fans huh.Rare breed you are.
Uh Oh, here we go again with “Melky, Melky, take it easy, wait for the ball, Melky, hey Melky?” Will somebody shut that guy up????
I wonder if Melky was trying to hit that heckler in the stands with that foul ball?
Laura, I sure wasn’t talking to you, just in general.
But if we all stay positive for tonight and put out lots of good energy we’ll all feel good when we win this game and will be primed for tomorrow. If we worry about tomorrow we won’t enjoy tonight’s win, and what a waste that would be!
Make sense?
“But if we all stay positive for tonight and put out lots of good energy we’ll all feel good when we win this game and will be primed for tomorrow. If we worry about tomorrow we won’t enjoy tonight’s win, and what a waste that would be!”
True, true. Ok. I’ll worry about Giambi blowing plays tomorrow.
If I demand to see Farnsworth in the 8th! You’d have to be an idiot to put Joba back out there!
Now that’s the cushion we need.
JOHNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
about time
CB:
Ohlendorf has been a startr for most of his professional career, so 50 IP appearances aren’t totally foreign to him. Don’t necessarily disagree with your point, but what he’s been asked to do isn’t beyond the realm of what he’s done in seasons past.
That said, I’ve been arguing from Day 1, that this team should include a legit long reliever. That’s on Cashman, as he has a couple available in Northern PA.
I’m really liking Ensberg. You have a fairly recent all-star caliber 3rd baseman as your backup.
I really do hope they find a way to deal Betemit for Minky.
Gonzalez should be in AAA getting ABs.
And this is why staying positive is so much more fun than worrying about tomorrow!
WOO HOO!!!!!
Nice try MoBoy, but no sale. By all means, post away, but you make the same thoughtless points about Joba day after day, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you give a reply to the counter-points that have been made ad nauseum on here. Do you have one?
Meanwhile, Damon is now forgiven for skipping the early BP.
Man these sox announcers are really crying about the game like a couple of babies
Thank you Damon for silencing those annoying WS broadcasters.
Damon has arrived!!!! He wakes up with the heat.
Thank you mr. damon
party time!!!
Man another non save situation for Mo. They are killing my fantasy team! But that’s ok, I’d rather the Yankees win. The lefties are kicking but tonight. Alex who?
way to go Damon!
“That ball hit hard…deep…way back…it’s 9-3 Yankees.” – the Hawk.
I do love it soooo.
ahhhhhhhh johnny comes through!!!
The Ghost of Johnny Damon,,,, Oh My
HEY MELKY….. HIT ALL THE BASES ON YOUR WAY AROUND MELKY….. HEY MELKY ….. SCORE THAT EIGTH RUN MELKY…. SHAKE JOHNNY’S HAND MELKY!!!
If Damon breaks out of his slump, this offense is much, much better.
9-4 Yanks on the homer by Damon! Nice!
Hawkins needs to pitch the 9th. Joba doesn’t need to pitch now. save him
JD & G-man feeling the heat from the blog!
Johnny Damon picks a great time to show he’s alive.
Now, if you are Girardi, you don’t bring Joba out for the 8th.
You go, in order, Ohlendorf and Hawkins. Hopefully, you get a clean 8th from Ollie and you can have Hawkins for the 9th and save Mo.
If he wants to manage the bullpen intelligently, unlike the last inning, that’s the way to go.
With Mussina pitching tomorrow, you are going to need Joba if the game is on the line. No reason to waste him for another inning tonight.
i meant the 8th wtf did i say 9th
Yay Johnny!
Welcome to the 2008 season, Johnny.
Giambi, when are you catching up or will you ever?
“Why does that irritating fan only yell for Melky? I mean yeah he’s got a pretty sweet name but come now… who does that?!”
That clown down in St Pete does it at the Rays game. Has been for years (unless he moved to Chicago). Finds one guy, and will ride him all night.
Pull Joba, save him for the rest of the series, and pitch Farnsy.
I’m serious.
Not to say I told you so about Damon, but, I told you so!
He’s too good a player to stay dormant!!!!!
Good thing there was a pitching change/commercial break; gives the WS announcers a couple minutes to cry off the air…
It was good that Damon and Giambi didn’t take batting practice. They saved their hits for the game.
Hope we can give Mussina the same support tomorrow.
that’s hilarious, RobNY. LOL. get that fan mic away from the Melky stalker.
Lots of negativity here for a 9-4 game.
I would think Farns. can get 3 outs before giving up 5 runs..Or am I wrong?! They should save Joba so he can pitch tomorrow if needed which I doubt in a game when Mussina 50 mph fastballs is pitching.
Agree with that big time! There’s no pizza like good old NY Pizza!
“Given ANOTHER chance to make up for the misstep, Girardi goes to the guy with the 100% failure rate instead of the guy with the ZERO% failure rate.”
SJ,
As much value you bring to this blog and I respect most of your posts, some times you go overboard with your statements. 100% failure, really? Bruney blew up every game he came into Right!!! It is clear you hate the guy and irrespective of what he does you will never give him the benefit of doubt. But, you know what, it is Girardi who makes the decisions and get used to seeing Bruney frequently. Also, in an ealier entry you wrote LF defense is bad. Not sure if you were refering to Damon. If so, is that so?
Look, no game is a cake walk. Unlike Torre, Girardi is at least trying to use as many bull pen arms as possible and is not burning out the same couple of arms. We will win the game, enjoy it. You know what, Joba will be available to pitch tomorrow. Girardi knows what he is doing.
“I think the more Bruney and Fransworth do bad the more you at least for a year or two need Joba in the 7th and 8th innings.”
No. That’s absolutely the wrong conclusion to draw from what is going on.
Last year Bruney and Farnsworth failed miserably in the set up man role. Miserably.
Yet somehow a year later the team is still insisting that they can do a job which they’ve already failed at terribly.
We’ve seen this already. There are no surprises here. These failures were the most probably outcome.
Is Brian Bruney walking someone unexpected? He’s walked 7/9 over his career, one of the worst rates in all of baseball.
What they need to do is stop insisting that Girardi can reinvent these guys.
What they need to do is to be creative, stop being enamored with radar gun readings and take some chanced on other guys.
Give Ohlendorf a chance to pitch in the 7th, call up Scott Patterson.
They need to experiment. If they keep sticking with a strategy that has already been shown to fail they can only expect more failure and they only have themselves to blame.
What is the magical hold Brian Bruney and Kyle Farnsworth have on this franchise? It’s just bizarre. No matter how many times they fail there is always another chance given to them.
Well I’m glad I had a good feeling about starting Johnny on my fantasy team tonight!! These 2 run shots w/men on do the heart so good.
And F the Hawk. Now at the end of this half inning he’ll have to say “bad guys winning” LOL
Yeah, I think it’ll probably be a Farnsworth-Hawkins combo for the 8th and 9th. We don’t need to waste Joba.
“Nick in SF-
Guess you didn’t watch the game.YOu must be those Fransworth fans huh.Rare breed you are.”
MoBoy – is this an argument? Insults are the last refuge of a lost argument.
Replace every single appearance by Joba this season with Farnsworth.
Replace every single appearance by Mussina this season with Joba (minus any worry about innings caps).
This team is better for it. Without a doubt.
The Yankees have a better replacement for Joba than Farnsworth. His name is Ohlendorf. They also have better in AAA.
The Yankees do not have a better option for a fifth starter (not #5, but fifth, as in, when Mussina’s gone) than Joba.
Fredo, if he was going to be the “long man” out of spring, you give him a couple of spring outings of more than 1 inning. Previuos starter or not. He is best suited for 1 and 2max innings in a game. We defintely need a long man, and that will be Rasner shortly. But Ross is being absolutely wasted in his role. Traber has been miserable. It’s a damn shame 210 million and we don’t have a 1st basemen or a good lefty in the pen.
Awright – good lead, now we can see Farnsworth!
Farnsworth! Farnsworth! Farnsworth! Woo Hoo! Yea!
IMHO i’d leave Joba in… they are going to need the bullpen tomorrow.
I’d save Ollie…Go Farns and then Hawkins
I don’t think Joe will use Ohlendorf. In fact, I think he’ll stick with Joba
Girardi absolutely postively should not bring joba back with a 5 run lead.
They only have 140 innings of joba. They can’t just waste them with a 5 run lead.
I love Joe and I hate to criticize him (that’s the problem with a popular player becoming manager), but here are a couple of issues I have:
1) Sticking with Traber waaaaaaaaaay too long; it’s clear we need a long man. Unfortunately, it seems that Joe has designated Ohlendorf to be the long-man, an utter waste of his talent…..and it’s going to hurt Ross down the line. He’s being used, a LOT, and not in the way that he was prepared for in ST. Why isn’t Alabadejo up here?
2) I don’t like to panic after only a few weeks, but obviously Giambi project is not working and nevermind helping the team win, he’s actually doing his best to help them lose. For a manager who is devastated after every loss (or so it seems), Joe isn’t exactly putting his best product on the field (yes, I’m taking the injuries into account).
Mostly, I’m pissed off about #1.
Why do you guys want Mentkewicz back, I think Shelly Duncan plays 1b just fine. Why don’t we just bring him up? We don’t need to trade Betemit yet.
Minor league report:
Trenton wins in 13 innings, 8-3. Austin Jackson had 3 hits and drove in the go ahead runs with a 2 run single. He’s now hitting .300.
Charleston wins 6-3 to go 16-3 for the season. Jesus Montero had 3 hits, including his 3rd HR of the season, and is now hitting .373.
That’s it for me. I am old and I’m going to bed. Night all.
Shhhhhhh. If you’re vewy vewy quiet you’ll hear the rustling of pages as the remaining S-X fan groupies go through their “book of obnoxious quotes” hoping to find something they can say since they are now so thoroughly embarassed that they even showed up here and said anything that they have to try to play it off like it’s no big deal!
So far, no luck!
I get the feeling Ohlendorf is on standby for tomorrow since Mussina pitches and may not finish past the 3rd inning, if that is the case Girardi is going to break Ohlendorf’s arm by June.
P.S. Trenton comes back to win in the 12 inning, Eddie Kunz (Mets (giggles) Joba) Action Jackson w/ the big hit.
SJ, I agree with you there on saving Joba. But Girardi is leaving him in.
AG at third and Enesberg at First. Thank you Girardi!
Bring in Krazy Kyle to make the match tighter! :-p
Pitching Joba another inning is not necessary..It is like the old comfort that Torre had with Proctor..I don’t like it..
Wow. This Joe is no different than the old Joe.
There is no reason for Joba to be in this game. None.
I wonder if Farnsworthless pitches the ninth.
Ensberg at 1st and AG at 3rd. Girardi must be reading.
What is Joe Girardi doing? This is exactly like watching Joe Torre manage the bull pen all over again.
What is he doing bringing Joba out again.
Farnsworth for the 9th?
Ya know Albie and Patterson and Veras all worth giving a shot but why doesnt anybody talk about big Chris Britton? That man is a tank and needs to be up here ASAP.
Guess Farnsy cant be trusted for 5 runs.
Ensberg to 1st, interesting. Guess Girardi is realizing that Giambi is not a good defender (nor usually a good offender, but I’ll lay off that point for tonight).
why is Joba pitching 2 innings ?
hey trisha- kevin youklis would be a nice addition at first base, don’t you think?
Somebody tell Cashman to break out the “Joba Rules” t-shirt again.
LOL – I love seeing a hitter duck and the ball fall in for an (uncalled) strike.
What a night of sports, the Yanks up big in the 8th and my Vikings just traded for Jared Allen, I am pumped right now. I know most or all of you don’t care about the Vikings, but I need to let out my excitement.
Joba?
“Why do you guys want Mentkewicz back, I think Shelly Duncan plays 1b just fine. Why don’t we just bring him up? We don’t need to trade Betemit yet.”
Despite some other’s opinion, Minky was fantastic with the glove, much better than any of the other Yankee options. I saw Shelley over there and he just didn’t seem comfortable to me. Betemit is a total waste of baseball oxygen. He is a strike out machine. We already have Giambi filling that role.
The question is should Girardi consider using this line-up while A-Rod is out? AG at Third, Ensberg at First, and Giambi sitting.
woooo, maybe the Yanks minor league teams will sweep the champions from low A all the way to AAA.
Farnsworth really should be in here… if he really screws up Mo can come in. I’d much rather have Joba be available tomorrow.
Maybe pitching Joba a second inning is part of his pre-transition stretching out?
Joe Girardi is starting to really piss me off. Don Mattingly wouldn’t have been any better, but really, how hard is it to find a manager who doesn’t follow the book blindly?
What is it with these ex-Red Sox…Cabrera, Millar…t’s like a residual haunting…
Wow, Hawk just now realizes why people are raving about Joba. What a tool.
The optimist in me wants to believe that 2 innings in the tail end of a game is the start of stretching him out
Nick in SF-
Well you didn’t counter-point at all.PLease who would you put with the bases loaded with one out.How about the post-season.
have we only had 1 game under 3 hours this year?
“Maybe pitching Joba a second inning is part of his pre-transition stretching out?”
It’s possible – he’s thrown his curveball several times.
Joe is using Ohlendorf as his long man – so he’s being saved for tomorrow. Unbelievable.
I can’t wait until Joba gets into the rotation. I don’t like the way he’s being used out of the pen. There’s no reason he should be pitching here with a 5 run lead. That’s just dumb.
That’s what I’m talking about…Joba in the 7th and 8th…
I agree with you guys about Joba going in with a 9-4 lead, I don’t get it either, unless he wants him to get some work and more game experience. Other than that, I don’t get it.
Well Manny I’ll tell ya. While I think Puke is well suited to that disgusting little green band box he plays in, in the very provincial little city in the northeast, I think that it’s possible that he would be wetting his pants if he had to play first base in the Bronx, under the glare of the NY spotlight.
So based on that, no I don’t think so.
“Nick in SF-
Well you didn’t counter-point at all.PLease who would you put with the bases loaded with one out.How about the post-season.”
This still is not a logical point.
Pick a reliever. Any of the Yankees relievers. I used Farnsworth (the worst of the relievers, IMO) above as an example.
Replace -every- appearance by Joba this year with Farnsworth. Going forward, replace Joba with Farnsworth.
Replace every appearance by Mussina with Joba.
The Yankees would be better off.
“The optimist in me wants to believe that 2 innings in the tail end of a game is the start of stretching him out”
Great post Blargh, could you imagine that? Without warning in two weeks, the Yankees would just say, oh well Joba’s ready to start now.
Oh no, bad news, my TV just turned to Letterman because i tape it each night, and the guest it has is Chris Mad Dog Russo. That is so pathetic.
Moose against Vasquez tomorrow. Should be interesting.
What a game. Pete’s right, reports of Damon’s demise are greatly exaggerated. Would that we could say the same about Giambi. Yes, he did hit that opposite field homer, but after that, he continues to look bad. And that’s just at bat.
I’m with CB, above. I don’t trust Kyle, and Bruney teases like the high school girls we all used to know. The thing is, it’s much easier to say goodbye to guys like that – they don’t have big dollars owed to them at this point, and we know what they can and cannot do with a good amount of certainty.
Can we confidently say that same thing about Jason Giambi? Was his early game opposite-field homer a sign of things to come, or an aberration? A tease, like the high school girls? SJ44 and others make a convincing case to release him. The two things that give you pause – or at least, give me pause – are 1)if you’re the owner, do you blow off the remaining 26M that he’s owed? and 2) Are you willing to take a chance on someone else in the league sign him as their DH – like Toronto after they get tired of Matt Stairs and Rod Baraja? Are you willing to take a chance on being haunted by Jason knocking you out of playoff contention in August and September?
“Moose against Vasquez tomorrow. Should be interesting.”
HR DERBY
For once I agree with Laura. Minky is a golden glove and that’s what we really need at first. The guys offense wasn’t the best but he came through in some clutch situations. And the guy had heart
Isn’t that what it takes to win?
Tricia, when will you learn to S-T-F-U? no one is feeding the trolls and all you do is harp on it.
This is totally off topic, but have you guys noticed how many saves Gagne has blown for the Brewers? I think he’s blown like 4 or 5 games already. I wouldn’t be surprised if they released him at some point.
and no on Minky, his bat was not just bad it was putrid, I’d rather Eric Duncan play 1B.
Well now playing devil’s advocate here, Joba hasn’t been used much at all lately and missed a week of pitching when his dad was sick. The Yankees are trying to get back on a winning streak and Girardi doesn’t want to waste a game that they kept so close. So to be on the safe side he used Joba for consecutive innings. He tried going with
Bruney and Traber but with the bases loaded it didn’t work. He probably had already decided that Joba was coming back in before Damon’s jack so there was no need to revert to something else at that point, especially based on the above contingencies.
Sometimes you have to KISS. Don’t overthink everything.
I’m not bothered that Joba came in two innings in a row. Yankees need to win. Joba is that insurance.
Brian Bruney has pitched in 3 non-soft landing games this year.
The game in Fenway, the game in Tampa and tonight.
By that, I mean, coming into games when the game was in question. He has failed in all 3 of those games. That’s a 100% failure rate in non-soft landing games.
He is what he is. He’s a guy you bring in a game when you have a 5+ run lead to start an inning. You never bring him in a game with runners on base.
He has shown time and time again he can’t pitch in those situations.
Nobody is changing that with him. Not the Diamondbacks, who probably develop more good young players than anybody in the game, and not the Yankees.
You have a weapon like Chamberlain, you use him to start the 7th inning.
Think of it another way. If he used him to start the 7th, they wouldn’t have needed him in the 8th.
Now, Girardi is petrified to use anybody else in the 8th inning (another mistake) and he wastes an inning of work from a guy on a innings limit this year.
Why? Because a guy like Brian Bruney can’t pitch in non-soft landing games.
Its another example of the amount of waste on the roster.
At some point, its going to have to be cleaned up.
No first baseman, 3 catchers, no speed on the bench, 3-4 relief pitchers who can’t pitch in anything but blowout games, who puts a roster together like this and expects results.
Sorry but, it defies baseball logic to me.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
boysclub, okay troll.
MoBoy, there will be lots of options for that kind of situation by the time Joba has gone to the rotation. And options that will hopefully be an improvement over Traber and Bruney too, so someone else can start that inning.
The point is, you don’t waste possible ace talent like Joba has in a role in which he might sit for 4 games in a row so that he can come into that game in some random situation.
Meanwhile, Barry Zito’s tonight, 3.2 innings pitched, 5 earned runs. I hope I didn’t just ruin that game for someone who TiVo’d it to watch next week.
I think we should see if Bernie would like to come back and play first for us…knock…knock…knock….hey, Bernie wanna play?
Gagne is just a disaster
Amazing how the White Sox didn’t bother to try stealing off Posada’s busted shoulder. They should’ve ran like crazy just to test it.
gotta feel bad for that sleeping fan they keep showing. He’ll cop it tomorrow from his friends and co-workers.
Brandon: Frightenly enough, Minky’s avg/obp/slg are all better than Giambi so far this season (though he’s had half the ABs of Giambi, I believe)
Girardi stated that every one has a clean slate and they will get fair opportunity. He has kept his word so far. In spite of some criticism here, he handled the bullpen well so far.
Having kept his word, he is slowly recognizing the weaknesses of some individuals and by the time one third of the season passes, he will bench or weed out some of the under perfromers. Give him time. Neither the manager nor the GM of any team, not just Yankees, will make knee jerk quick fixes like they are being suggested here by some.
The funny thing is, most posters here wanted Gagne.
long island Joe. Think about this for just a second. Your in the bottom of the 8th, a runner on 2nd and 3rd and two down. Your down 2 runs Jason Giambi is hitting with a great reliever on the mound, it’s a crucial game in late September. I’d be damn happy with that situation if Jason was hitting against Mo in Toronto in a Blue Jays uniform. Downright freakin giddy!!!
Russo is on with Letterman?
Oh maybe he will talk about Joba and mention the Manhattan game for the millionth time.
(rolling my eyes)
“and no on Minky, his bat was not just bad it was putrid, I’d rather Eric Duncan play 1B.”
Not for nothing, right now, Giambi is swinging the bat as bad as Minky does, which is worse because he has more talent and should perform better. Add in Giambi’s horrible fielding and Minky is quite clearly the better option.
Come on Kyle. You have the stuff to put them away 1-2-3.
Let’s see it now.
(I’m very tired!)
“I can’t wait until Joba gets into the rotation. I don’t like the way he’s being used out of the pen.”
I completely agree. He’s becoming Girardi’s security blanket.
How many times has Joba been used since he came back from seeing his father.
He doesn’t bring him in to start the seventh but then leaves him in to pitch with a 5 run lead.
If Kyle Farnsworth can’t be trusted to throw 2 innings with a 5 run lead why is he on the roster. We heard over and over in spring training that this was a new Kyle Farnsworth, one who could pitch multiple innings without a problem.
Why wasn’t he used here? Why is Hawkins not used for an inning.
And if Girardi has already lost trust in them in april (and if you don’t put them in up 5 in the 8th inning you don’t trust them at all) then why are they on the roster?
You’re dam right SDJohn. You move Cano to short right and Jeter to second base and wait for Giambi to hit into a double play.
Hey Pete, at least you don’t have to suffer thru this game listening to Harrelson. F’en brutal. Between him and them having the field mic volume up so loud that you have to hear some idiot fan the whole game I’m ready to stick a screwdriver into my ears.
SJ44 said -
“Nobody is changing that with him. Not the Diamondbacks, who probably develop more good young players than anybody in the game, and not the Yankees.”
You are so right. I remember when they first got Bruney and Kay and Katt were wondering why the Diamondbacks would trade a guy with stuff like that. Now we know why.
It’s Farnsworthless. Oh, joy.
Farsnworth in to pitch the 9th.
Farnsworth = best chance for a save opportunity for Mo.
With psycho Farns. pitching the 9th, Mo should just warm up with him.
SJ44 – I’m really beginning to come to your POV re: Bruney
IMO, the Yankees are best served as follows.
1) DFA Giambi. I think he has value, but if he’s unwilling or unable to consistently hit to the left side to beat the shift, he’s useless. Get Mientkiewicz from the Pirates for Betemit (if possible). Otherwise, replace Giambi at 1B with Ensberg as a starter and Duncan as a backup (Moeller to AAA).
As soon as possible with innings cap, DFA Mussina and move Joba to the rotation.
Ditch Farnsworth. We have better in AAA.
Bruney = 1-2 inning reliever in non-close situations. Ohlendorf = setup man. Rivera = closer. Hawkins standard 1 inning guy. Bring up AAA arms and see who sticks.
I’m tired too, Trisha. We’ve got to speak to the Yankees about these 4 hour games.
Sick of hearing about the Red Sox tough starting schedule and how well they’re doing. Half of their first 22 games have been at their pansy Fenway Park – that’s helped. Let’s see what happens once they hit the road again.
“No first baseman, 3 catchers, no speed on the bench, 3-4 relief pitchers who can’t pitch in anything but blowout games, who puts a roster together like this and expects results.”
So, who should be held accountable for this situation? He should be fired, I guess. I agree with your observation though.
And not only that but my culo will direct my hands to type this crap all night long. Honestly I don’t know squat about baseball but I do know that my misewable life will be on tomorrow. My foul smelling buck teeth, my giant rear end, my hairy back…they’ll all be there in the morning. I just wish Derek Jeter would drool herpes on my back hair just once. Brb, I have to go get my roid pillow.
The only problem I have with DFA’ing Giambi is that another AL team will scoop him up for some minimal amount and he will help that team. I would rather just leave him on the bench as the lefty PH.
Now now, let’s show Farnsworth a little respect here. He is not nearly as bad as some of you are making him out to be.
And if you don’t think booing affects a player’s psyche, think about Farnsworth’s comments about how he reacted to the cheers he got when he “brushed forward” Manny.
He’s our pitcher. Get behind him.
There’s Farnsworth’s flat fastball everyone loves.
“1) DFA Giambi. I think he has value, but if he’s unwilling or unable to consistently hit to the left side to beat the shift, he’s useless. Get Mientkiewicz from the Pirates for Betemit (if possible). Otherwise, replace Giambi at 1B with Ensberg as a starter and Duncan as a backup (Moeller to AAA).”
You know, it’s so easy for us to say DFA Giambi. I was saying it for awhile too. It’s easy for us to say it because it’s not our 26Mil going down the drain.
I don’t know that DFA’ing him is the answer. All I know is that he cannot play 1B on a daily basis. If they want to trot him out there two games a week, they can do so as long as they replace him late in the game. But as the every day 1B guy – not working now and it never will.
LOL Farnsworthless back to his old role: making blowouts look more interesting.
“Girardi stated that every one has a clean slate and they will get fair opportunity. He has kept his word so far.”
You given guys a clean slate on pesonality isues, on being a “bad” guy, a “trouble maker,” etc.
All athletes have past track records. Bruney and Farnsworth have extensive experience for relief pitcher and their track records show very clearly that they are not good pitchers.
Joe Girardi taking over does not change history. Him coming in does not change the body of work and past performance of the player’s he’s managing.
He’s a manager. Not a magician. He doesn’t have the power to suddenly reinvent players.
Ah, hanging slider, even better.
Once again, the obligatory run surrendered by Farnsworth…
Gee, Krazy Kyle did it again!
Laura and Trisha – I’ll take 4 hour games as long as the Yanks win. (Of course, Farnswoth has to extend it even longer.)
And krazy kyle strikes again.
oh Kyle, please don’t make them have to warm up Mo.
farnsworth, HR, like clockwork.
oh, man…he can’t even mop up!
will this SOB throw a strike
“And not only that but my culo will direct my hands to type this crap all night long. Honestly I don’t know squat about baseball but I do know that my misewable life will be on tomorrow. My foul smelling buck teeth, my giant rear end, my hairy back…they’ll all be there in the morning. I just wish Derek Jeter would drool herpes on my back hair just once. Brb, I have to go get my roid pillow”
That’s S_X groupie trollspeak for DAMN I WAS SO SURE THE YANKEES WERE GOING TO LOSE. NOW I WON’T SLEEP TONIGHT!
Nothing like Farns. giving up a homerun and walk with a 5 run lead. HE IS PATHETIC!!! The fireworks are really corny especially when they are down by 4 runs still.
Oh god Krazy Kyle
You could throw out every scrap of baseball history pre-March 30th, some of these slates are still looking pretty filthy. Is it a fresh clean slate every series? Every game?
SJ44, put down the keyboard and go to sleep, Old man.
““1) DFA Giambi. I think he has value, but if he’s unwilling or unable to consistently hit to the left side to beat the shift, he’s useless. Get Mientkiewicz from the Pirates for Betemit (if possible). Otherwise, replace Giambi at 1B with Ensberg as a starter and Duncan as a backup (Moeller to AAA).â€
You know, it’s so easy for us to say DFA Giambi. I was saying it for awhile too. It’s easy for us to say it because it’s not our 26Mil going down the drain.
I don’t know that DFA’ing him is the answer. All I know is that he cannot play 1B on a daily basis. If they want to trot him out there two games a week, they can do so as long as they replace him late in the game. But as the every day 1B guy – not working now and it never will.”
Oh, I don’t think it will happen, but he’s a total waste of a roster spot.
In a pure economics sense, the contract is a sunk cost. You owe it to him whether or not he plays at all.
Unless you (owners) hope he gets hurt and you can collect insurance
If (if) the owners can be persuaded to believe that, say, Shelley Duncan is worth more as a hitter AND defender than Giambi, there is absolutely no use for Giambi on this roster.
This is just unreal. Why is this guy on the team? I can’t believe that we haven’t been able to find someone to take him off our hands. Can we send him to the Brewers once they dump Gagne?
at least he didn’t walk him
There’s no one, I mean no one, who just frustrates me more than Farnsworth…..He just blows , he flat out blows…..
Using Joba in the 8th looks like genius move now…
As krazy as kyle may be that curve was strike 3..
thank you Gonzo
Oh, that Krazy Kyle. As long as we win it’s ok, but you can’t depend on him in high leverage situations. Although Pierzynski’s having a good season so far.
Hahaha oh wow Mo warming up. At least one last out left…
I’m glad to see that Girardi gave Kyle Farnsworth a clean slate.
I also appreciate how Girardi said again and again that he had caught Kyle when they were on the cubs 10 years ago and because of that could reinvent farnsworth.
The 2008 Kyle Farnsworth looks completely reinvented compared to the 2007 version.
Same thing for Bruney. Both guys got “clear slates” and all of their past problems of performing poorly have just dissappeared.
And of course now Mariano is up and throwing. What a waste.
I just don’t understand why they insist on using failed pitchers instead of taking any kind of chance. It’s baffling.
“That’s S_X groupie trollspeak for DAMN I WAS SO SURE THE YANKEES WERE GOING TO LOSE. NOW I WON’T SLEEP TONIGHT!”
trisha – just a suggestion – ignore the moron.
Laura and Fran, I really hate these 8 o’clock starts. And with Moose on the mound tomorrow night, he’s like watching paint dry!
I was thrilled to have a Monday day off!
Tell me again…what is Farnsworth’s role on this team again?
“And not only that but my culo will direct my hands to type this crap all night long. Honestly I don’t know squat about baseball but I do know that my misewable life will be on tomorrow. My foul smelling buck teeth, my giant rear end, my hairy back…they’ll all be there in the morning. I just wish Derek Jeter would drool herpes on my back hair just once. Brb, I have to go get my roid pillowâ€
That’s S_X groupie trollspeak for DAMN I WAS SO SURE THE YANKEES WERE GOING TO LOSE. NOW I WON’T SLEEP TONIGHT!
WHO TOOK MY ROID PILLOW???!?
It is extremely hard watching this psycho pitch. Good thing the awful Cashman 3 year deal ends after this year.
Peter Gammons was on baseball tonight saying yankees and astros were talking for roy oswalt
Farnsworth is not worth keeping. He’s a stubborn hardhead who refuses to listen to people who want to help him, plus he thinks he’s better than he is. I remember when he was with the Cubs in 2003 playoffs against the Marlins. Dusty took him out after he blew another save and he absolutely demolished the dugout when he came out. No one dared to stop him because the guy is stronger than a horse. He is not a good teammate and not a Yankee, I say try and trade him.
Whatever, I guess him giving up a homerun isn’t really a big deal. He’s not a perfectionist but if he can get 3 outs without giving up the lead then who cares?
This is a good thing. It shows Girardi again that Farnsworth can never ever under any circumstances be trusted.
Nick in SF-
V-
Hey guys your Set-Up man is doing great.Lucky because of Job,Fransworth didn’t give up a gradslam but rather a solo home run in a 5 run lead 9th and as it looking we might need MO.
This is my point,I don’t need to make a whole lot of sense just watch the game and my point is clear.
Joba in the 7th and 8th for at leat a year or two.
The Yankees have a 2 game winning streak. Hope to make it 3 tomorrow night.
V -
Thanks. Remind me when I forget. That and Pete said he’s block ISPs of really obnoxious trolls so that’s another avenue.
Peter Gammons was on baseball tonight saying yankees and astros were talking for roy oswalt.
Who gets the win? I vote for Chamberlain.
Get out of town Jack? Roy Oswalt? On the Yankees?
Oswalt? Good pitcher in the NL. Not sure he translates well to the AL.
And on that note, I’m off to bed. Goodnight all.
Cripes it’s almost tomorrow!
Good game guys. Tomorrow will be another win.
LOL I think this is the most negative, depressing game thread ever for a game in which we are about to win…….Kind of sad, actually. No one really trusts the new manager, the roster is iffy, the offense is sputtering (and trying to come to life lately, but still not on all cylinders), the pitching is lousy…….The baseball season, thus far, has been completely bereft of any fun or joy.
“Peter Gammons was on baseball tonight saying yankees and astros were talking for roy oswalt.”
who the hell we dealing ?
I understand much better now, MoBoy. You don’t have to make any sense, you just watch the game. Thanks for clearing that up.
My bad. I thought Wang was out of the game by the time we got the runs.
Embarrassing how it is SOOO hard for him to get 3 outs with a 5 run lead. Yanks needed this win since tomorrow is 3 inning Mussina and Hughes the next day. Olendorf better be ready for mop up duty in the 3rd.
Oswalt….from watching him the end of last year and this year, I’ll bet money he’s on the verge of major arm surgery.
Stay away Cashman.
“Peter Gammons was on baseball tonight saying yankees and astros were talking for roy oswalt”
Wow. I don’t believe it on the surface. Oswalt is under contract through 2011 with an option for 2012.
If the Yankees didn’t have to give up a lot (I could be persuaded to give up Kennedy, but not Hughes) – then do it.
“This is a good thing. It shows Girardi again that Farnsworth can never ever under any circumstances be trusted.”
Not necessarily. Unless he becomes more willing to trust Ohlendorf or an Albaladejo in a big spot all this is going to do is to lead Girardi to overuse Joba (like he did tonight) and burn out his arm.
This from the RAB blog – Joba has pitched in 3 of the 4 games the yankees have played since he’s came back.
That is just not a smart thing to do with a guy whose arm is the future of the franchise.
We do not know if Molina is healthy yet, and Moeller would have to go through waivers if he was removed from the roster. Considering how good he has been, no one is ready to say goodbye to Moeller yet. When that sorts itself out, Duncan will be back.
Agree Trisha – see you tomorrow.
MOBOY,
Agree…
Joba in the 7th and 8th is a necessity right now-how could you argue otherwise…I don’t know about more beyond this year, but for now this is the only formula that works…
Hey Betsy, I’ve been upbeat! I think it’s all good.
I will be rather upset if the Yankees trade Phil Hughes (which they’d have to to get Oswalt) after having gone through the agony that was the Santana sweepstakes. I just don’t see the Yankees dealing Phil……….lord, I hope not. Anyway, I just don’t see an Oswalt deal happening.
Again, Ohlendorf has been consigned by Joe to the long-man role……..a BIG, BIG mistake. It’s incomprehensibly stupid – so far Joe is not impressing me (and I hate to say this because I love the guy). I can’t believe that he is using Ross, who should be a late inning guy, for garbage time. UGH.
Absolutely not on Oswalt. He has been mind bogglingly bad this year.
He is almost definitely hurt.
Nice to get a win
Sometimes I do forget. I forget about my halitosis, my genital warts. Jetes does it for me. Thank Jesus for this two game winning streak. If I couldn’t get 4 hours watching the 3rd best team in the AL East, I just don’t know what I’d do. What with this 12″ prolapse sticking out of my backside, I need some distraction, I need some Yankee love.
Giambi, Hawkins, Farnsworth and Bettimit for Oswalt
“MoBoy
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Nick in SF-
V-
Hey guys your Set-Up man is doing great.Lucky because of Job,Fransworth didn’t give up a gradslam but rather a solo home run in a 5 run lead 9th and as it looking we might need MO.
This is my point,I don’t need to make a whole lot of sense just watch the game and my point is clear.
Joba in the 7th and 8th for at leat a year or two.”
:snore:
I used Farnsworth as an example. Replace Mussina with Joba and Joba with Farnsworth, and this club is better off.
OTOH, replace Joba with Ohlendorf. Who can you replace Mussina with other than Joba or, say, Carlos Silva? No one.
A starter who can keep you in the game (as opposed to Mussina) is worth more than a bullpen guy who might not be needed for two weeks at a time.
If Joba is a reliever all year, he will be a 200+ innings starter in 2012 at the earliest. If he’s a reliever next year, he’ll be a 200+ innings starter in 2013 at the earliest.
As is, he’ll be a 200+ innings starter in 2010 at the earliest.
The equation is simple. I don’t know how to make it simpler.
He didn’t over use Joba. He faced what, two hitters on Sunday? He’s got what 7 innings so far this year?
If he’s gonna be stretched out as a starter he needs to start facing more than 3 batters an appearance anyways.
I’m just going to emphasize that Farnsworth did get the job done. It was ugly but he got through it only surrendering one run when it didn’t really matter. It’s not like it was a save situation. He’s not a reliable pitcher in a tight spot, that is true, but at least he finished it. In any case I’m going to sleep.
Farnsworth gave up a homer? Why am I not floored to see that when I get back?
Oh well. Yankees win!
And Igawa Rocco… Houston cant do the deal without Igawa.
“Absolutely not on Oswalt. He has been mind bogglingly bad this year.
He is almost definitely hurt.”
I don’t think he is, but I need at least one good start before knowing for sure. He didn’t have any command of any of his pitches this year – he got them back in his most recent start – a good sign.
Maybe Farnsworth is the DP: Designated Punchbag?
the yankees do have better then farnsworth they just can’t get rid of farnsworth and bring up the better pitchers.
“If the Yankees didn’t have to give up a lot (I could be persuaded to give up Kennedy, but not Hughes) – then do it.”
Oswalt is 2-3 with an ERA of 6.00, ERA+ of 67 and a WHIP of 1.6.
He’s fallen off some kind of cliff in his production.
And the reports of how he is throwing are not good.
No trade for Oswalt, let’s just stick with what we’ve got and see what happnes. I’ve been watching Oswalt for a while now and since their run back in 2006, he hasn’t been the same.
The Mets are desparate for bullpen help. Their bullpen is awful.
Yet Santana is starting instead of shortening the game to 6 innings – he could be absolutely dominant in the 7th and 8th innings. Imagine if they could go to him instead of watching Heilman load the bases and blow a game.
The Tigers’ bullpen is shot. Could you imagine Verlander in there? You better have the lead after 6 or you’re toast.
I think Oswalt has a no trade to NY.
Oswalt the last 4 years:
237.0 241.2 220.2 and 212.0 IP
Ks have fallen each year
Trading for him is just asking for trouble in my mind.
I’m sure Girardi has his reasons for using Joba like he did. They’re watching pitch count as well as innnings. An inning of Joba and an inning of Hughes or Kennedy is a lot different. Joba threw 24 pitches in 1.2 innings. Joba’s going to be okay.
Oswalt has given up 7 HR in 4 starts, 17 ER in 4 starts, Cashman think about it w/ your baseball people. Remember you learned from your mistakes…don’t do another one.
I’m glad Girardi had the guts to trust Bruney. That was the right move tonight.
Have you seen Bruney’s peripherals? They are absolutely fabulous. He’s going through a rough patch right now, but he will turn things around. And that’s not just my opinion, btw. It’s a matter of statistical inevitability.
““If the Yankees didn’t have to give up a lot (I could be persuaded to give up Kennedy, but not Hughes) – then do it.â€
Oswalt is 2-3 with an ERA of 6.00, ERA+ of 67 and a WHIP of 1.6.
He’s fallen off some kind of cliff in his production.
And the reports of how he is throwing are not good.”
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/recap/MLB_20080416_HOU@PHI
“Reports of Johnny Damon’s demise were greatly exaggerated.”
Why, because he hit a homerun today? Where was that comment at 8:05 p.m.?
When he’s fumbling balls in the outfield, soft-tossing balls to the cut-off man, and battling to keep his average at .230 for the next few weeks are you going to be giving us Brett Gardner updates, or are you going to stick to your comment about his demise being ‘greatly exaggerated’?
V,
I know oswalt pitched well yesterday but he makes me nervous.
He’s thrown a ton of innings and is now 30. On top of that people have been very worried about him breaking down because of his slight build/ frame.
I would have to see him completely return to his baseline for several starts before I’d even think about it.
Bruce,
I’m with you on Bruney.
“CB
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 am
V,
I know oswalt pitched well yesterday but he makes me nervous.
He’s thrown a ton of innings and is now 30. On top of that people have been very worried about him breaking down because of his slight build/ frame.
I would have to see him completely return to his baseline for several starts before I’d even think about it.”
Oh, totally agreed on the riskiness – no way do I make a deal without at least 3-4 more weeks of solidity.
But I find it quite possible that he was ‘missing’ his curveball and ‘found it’ again.
What exactly did Gammons say anyways?
I think 95% of the rumors he gives, he’s just makes up.
The midnight version of BB Tonight is on right now. Maybe Gammons will talk about it again.
Wang’s fastest to 50 wins behind Guidry & Gooden. Wow.
“Bruce,
I’m with you on Bruney.”
Will you have my child?
Nick in SF-
Stop talking about me a make a point you never really made a point for what you are trying to make which is nothing your whole Non-Joba in the Pen just flew out the window.
V-
PLease Mussina has a 86mph fast ball that isn’t happening he sucks and put him out there against Manny see what happens.And like most people here who tend to overhype some of our prospects Ohlendorf isn’t replacing Joba in talent he is good but JOba is the X factor.
It’s gonna take a year or 2 between Ohlendorf,Humberto SAnchez,Melchon,Cox (three of them just came out of Tommy John surgery years) to replace Joba.
Make Joba a stater but later he is still young and every day that goes by it’s becoming more and more likely that Joba will stay in the pen.What other options are there?
“But I find it quite possible that he was ‘missing’ his curveball and ‘found it’ again.”
But if that’s the case it will take 5-6 good to excellent prospects to get him.
If he’s healthy and back to pitching to an ERA+ of 140 it will take Phil Hughes to get him.
Teams are going to look at the yankees, think Hank is incensed and will overpay and force Cash to make a bad move.
Oswalt will be prohibitively expensive. I’d look into it but I don’t know if there’s any fit there.
The only thing that makes me hopeful about that is that the astros did trade for tejada this winter.
Trisha, you’re always positive which I appreciate. I tend to be very negative and it’s always nice to be talked off the ledge. I might be better off getting rid of the football mentality I have, LOL.
I really went off on Joe tonight – a complete overreaction, I admit. He’s such a smart guy – brains as well as baseball smarts. I know he’s got a reason for everything he does……..I just hope he’s careful with Ohlendorf. I’ve really taken to this kid.
Oswalt is an intreging thought if there was any merit to it….I fthe price was right, and he’s coming over to replace Moose maybe…..But that move indicates panic in the Yankke FO……No Kennedy, but he could be the one to go…..I hope not…He’ll string togather some nice outings uocoming….Same for Hughes, once he stops overthrowing…
Hmm, apparently the Tigers are moving Cabrera to first ( http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24265511/ )
Wow…I’m lovin’ the Minky talk tonight. They should have resigned him to begin with. Bring back Doug, and I’m not talking off the bench I’m talking as your starter. Cut the G-Man loose, put Dougie in there. He does the little things a team needs to win. You plant Matsui is the DH role for good and you have Ensberg, Molina, Duncan, Gonzalez and maybe Gardner on the bench.
On another note…Oswalt…WOW! If you can get Roy Oswalt you do it, that guys a stud. I’m sure they’ll want some good minor league prospects in return, Houston is definitely rebuilding, but if you can get Roy…make it happen. That’s exciting news. Let’s see what Cash does.
MoBoy, I’m sorry, but I can only carry on conversations in standard English.
Fragile Giambi gets hit in the finger with the ball that he couldn’t field and now his finger hurts. Poor baby. And I actually thought that he was taken out for defense. Next time field the ball and you won’t hurt yourself.
Check out the Oriole/Seattle gameday. Guthrie’s at 115 pitches, bases loaded in a 2-2 game. And he stays in.
Too late for the change. 4-2 Seattle.
Nick in SF-
You need to be drunk to understand what MoBoy is saying, but I think he is saying that you are 100% right & sorry for the misunderstanding.
If the Yankees give up Hughes for Oswalt, how bad will they look for not giving him up for Santana? I think Phil is basically safe because Cash and Hal believe in him….they didn’t go into this deaf, dumb and blind. They know their youth plan is more for the future than 2008.
Nick in SF-
Don’t worry you can watch Fransworth on TV giving up Homeruns on YES they speck English.
JOba=SEt-Up Man
Prove thats wrong.
mel-
Guthrie was taken out after 115 pitches.
I for one was hoping they’d kept Eyechart…..
Oswalt’s numbers has been getting worse every year. Batting average against went from .210 as a rookie to .250 now..about 10 points every year. I doubt they are trading him anyway, also he has a no trade. They would definitely want Hughes for him and that is not happening. Plus he pitches against bad NL teams how does anyone know that he wouldn’t get lit up against AL East lineups.
I could see them giving up Kennedy and some other prospects for Oswalt. That would seem reasonable. The question is how Oswalt would react in New York. He’s pretty much a country boy, it would be interesting. He’s played with Andy before so that might help. I’m skeptical on this rumor though…sounds too good to be true.
Buddy Biancalana-
No missunderstandings.Just when you say Joba should stay in the pen on this blog everybody tries to kill you here.But if you watch the games you know he does unless your drunk which Nick and Buddy must be.
Count me in the minority. I like Joba in the pen. I understand the logic to move him to a starting role…makes perfect sense. For this year though, stretch him out by making him a set-up guy that goes a couple of innings each outing, a la Gossage or Sutter.
Miguel Cabrera is now a fulltime 3rd baseman, wow!
oswalt has played with ensberg also.
He pitched a no hitter vs Yanks at The Stadium a few years back….I think he went 7 innings that night…Remember he pitches in Minute Maid, a band box….Not not promoting a trade, and it could be a far fetched notion, but once again if the price is right….Houston could be looking to dump salary…..This is all premature BS…..
Yeah, MoBoy, me too think to drunk straight.
Nobody’s killing you, I just want to know if you have any legitimate reason to argue that Joba needs to stay in the pen for the whole season. So far your only argument seems to be that the only pitchers in the entire Yankee system to fill that setup role are Bruney and Farnsworth. Since we all know that isn’t true –drunk or sober — we sort of wonder what else you’ve got.
what’s the over for runs scored in tomorrows game…definitly over 12
first time poster, long time pete reader. call me crazy, but i like matsui in the cleanup spot every once in awhile. sure, he may not have power but hes shown he can put up 100+ rbi year in and year out. kind of reminds me of when bernie used to hit cleanup. OBVIOUSLY bernie was a much better hitter than matsui is, i draw the comparison only bc bernie wasnt known as a huge power threat for most of his career (like matsushi). would DAMON-JETER-AROD-MATSUI-ABREU-POSADA-CANO-GIAMBI-MELKY really be THAT bad? i know alex likes hitting behind bobby but jeter aint that bad of a hitter himself.
Over/under on how long before we hear rumors of the Red Sox having interest in Oswalt? I heard they have one of the best farm systems and would have lots of chips to offer. lol.
By the way, is Bill James going to have to recalibrate his thoery now that Bobby Abreu got 4 RBI’s on the home run and all Arod did was have a kid?
Farnsworth for Oswalt: Deal or No Deal?
The mariners beat the orioles today 4-2.
Felix Hernandez threw 7 innings, struck out 7 and walked 2. He was sitting 94-96 and throwing three pitches for strikes.
JJ Putz came back tonight and threw a scoreless 9th.
Who pitched the 8th? Who pitched what is clearly the most magically important innings of the game?
The absolutely awful Arthur Rhodes. And not only did Rhodes pitch the 8th he was facing the heart of the Orioles line up – their 3-5 hitters.
And somehow the orioles didn’t score and the mariners got the ball to Putz, their closer to win the game.
Clearly the mariners are idiots. Arthur Rhodes is horrendous.
They should have clearly moved Felix Hernandez to the set up man spot.
That way they could lock down the 8th inning. Putz is one of the 3 best closers in the game.
If Seattle wasn’t so stupid they’d take Hernandez out of the starting rotation and move him to the much more important set up man role.
That way they can shorten the game to 7 innings. What a weapon!
What are they thinking?
I like the Bizarro CB!!!
WooHoo, Buddy, you have been drinking if you think that Houston would go for that. Unless that Dominican kid, don’t know his legal name or age, is a throw-in.
Maybe the rumors are true, and Cashman is bringing in Oswalt to pitch the 7th inning. Oswalt to Joba to Mo. Next year Sabathia will be signed to take over the 6th.
Innings 1-5 are more about positioning anyway.
Oh, just saw on Baseball Tonight that Chien-ming Wang joins Ron Guidry and Doc Gooden as the only pitchers to get to 5 wins in their first 85 starts in ___ years. Some large number.
Hmmm, maybe Wang can take over that crucial 5th inning setup role. The Wang-Sabathia-Oswalt-Joba-Mo chain could be unbeatable.
“I like the Bizarro CB!!!”
Bizarro what?
Don’t you know that you need to be able to throw at least a 97 mph fastball, a 90 mph slider, and am 84 mph curve ball to get through the 3 outs of the 8th inning?
If you don’t have at least that three pitch combination you can’t possibly pitch the 8th inning effectively?
I’m in the camp that if we can trade Kennedy and some of the minor league depth for a top half of the rotation 1-3 type starter, we do it now.
However, Roy Oswalt ain’t the answer. He’s in the midst of his worst career stretch and his stuff has diminished.
We’ve been down this road before with Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson. Heck, even Jack McDowell to an extent.
We don’t need pitchers whose best work is far behind them.
The guy to try to get, in my opinion, is Blanton from Oakland. He would slot in perfect as a #3 here, he’s still young (27) and he’s used to pitching in the AL.
Is he an Ace or a former Ace? No. He will never be one. But he’ll give you 7 innings a start at an ERA in the low 4’s which is good enough to me.
Sadly, Beane will ask for Joba, Hughes, IPK, Cano and Arod for him, so it will never happen.
When Beane trades Blanton, Harden and Street to Boston later this season, he’ll do it for Coco Crisp and the ghost of Doug Mirabelli and Gammons will praise Beane for ripping off the Sox by getting them to include an actual Phantasm catcher and a guy named after a sugary sweet breakfast cereal.
He’ll wax on how Theo had to do it in order to keep pace with those slick big money NY Yankees. He had no choice. He wanted to keep Crisp and the Ghost desperately, but the Yankees made him trade his two biggest assets.
“The guy to try to get, in my opinion, is Blanton from Oakland.”
Beane supposedly already asked for both Joba and Hughes when Cash asked about blanton.
I kid you not.
It’s not going to happen.
No one is going to trade them a quality #3 unless it’s a heist for them.
Who has an extra #3 quality starter lying around?
I agree on Oswalt – I would be very,very weary.
Houston is going to ask for Hughes and they’ll at least want a package starting with Kennedy, Horne, and Austin Jackson and perhaps Tabata.
If Oswalt is right they are going to ask for the moon. They have him signed at a reasonable contract (reasonable if he’s pitching to a ERA+ of 140) long term.
They have no reason to just dump him without auctioning him off to every possible suitor. Houston is so bad he might wave his no trade.
That’s a great call CB…..He was flosted about during the Winter Meetings……
The Yankees have to find somebody better than Farnsworth.
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Pete, you are kicking a dead horse. You are Master of the Obvious….now go FIND US A REPLACEMENT !
For the record, Melancon has been struggling at Tampa. A 5.19 ERA, and how he got out of trouble last night (1 1/3 IP, 5 H, 2 walks) by only giving up one run is something.
Are you all nuts? Trading away Hughes for Oswalt? Umm…been there, done that sort of thing. No more of that, please.
Happy birthday William Shakespeare