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Game 23: Yankees at White Sox

April
24

YANKEES
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Matsui LF
Ensberg 3B
Cano 2B
Giambi 1B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Hughes RHP

Phil Hughes against the White Sox

Gavin Floyd against the Yankees

Notes: Posada said he is fine and is just getting a day off. … A-Rod is here but obviously not in the lineup. Maybe tomorrow. … Jeter is 1 of his last 14. … Melky has hit safely in eight of the last 10 games. … The Yankees have scored 22 runs in the last three games and have 16 extra-base hits.

Back later with updates.

UPDATE, 6:57 p.m.: RHP Brian Bruney is not available because of what the Yankees are saying is a sprained mid-foot. He went for an MRI and will see a specialist in New York tomorrow. (Dr. Martin Van Nostrand perhaps?) Bruney was injured Tuesday night in the seventh inning when he was trying to cover first base. He was wearing a knee-length boot today and was in the trainer’s room all afternoon. Given that it’s his push-off foot, it seems almost certain that Bruney will go on the disabled list.

If a guy is having trouble walking on Thursday, he’s not going to be pitching any time soon. Tough to go to Cleveland for four games a pitcher short.

UPDATE, 7:03 p.m.: A-Rod won’t play tonight but hopes to play tomorrow, perhaps as the DH. The key will be whether he can run, which he hasn’t tried to do yet. The rain here in Chicago kept him from getting on the field to test it. Meanwhile, he said he arrived at the hospital 10 minutes after Ella Alexander was born on Monday. A-Rod said it was “perfect timing.”

UPDATE, 7:44 p.m.: It’s raining pretty good here. No chance the game will start on time. As somebody who has an 8:30 a.m. flight to Cleveland, you can imagine my delight.

The Yankees never get a day game on getaway day. They could have played in perfect sunshine this afternoon. As this is the team’s last trip to Chicago, they’ll probably wait all night to try and play.

UPDATE, 8:04 p.m.: They just announced in the press box that the rain should be ending within an hour and they hope to play at 9:30 p.m. (EDT). I’ll keep you posted.

UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: They’re pulling the tarp off the field now. Then it’ll take a little bit to clean up the field.

UPDATE, 8:36 p.m.: Umphrey’s McGee is doing the anthem. Great band.

UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: The game is underway. 64 degrees.

UPDATE, 8:55 p.m.: Send that 1B Gold Glove to The Big G c/o Yankee Stadium, Bronx, N.Y.

UPDATE, 9:30 p.m.: Rain delay. It’s 3-0 Yankees in the middle of the third inning. What a shame for Phil Hughes, who was really pitching well. If the delay goes long, he’ll have to come out. He’s thrown 23 pitches in two innings, 15 for strikes.

UPDATE, 10:11 p.m.: The tarp is off the field. Looks like Ross Ohlendorf is coming in. Can’t take a chance with Hughes as the rain delay is approaching 45 minutes.

UPDATE, 10:19 p.m.: Well, the players are on the field and it’s raining again. But they’re going to play.

UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: I’m getting flooded with e-mails from people who are upset that Hughes was taken out of the game. People, people, people, you don’t mess with the health of a 21-year-old for the sake of one game. I don’t care if the Yankees lose this game 100-3, it was the right decision. It was a 51-minute delay.

That said, they really need a long reliever. This is not what Ohlendorf was prepared for in spring training. Beyond that, Bruney should have been on the DL after getting hurt on Tuesday. He’s walking around in a boot, it seems pretty safe to say he’s not going to be pitching any time soon. Beyond that, it’s Brian Bruney. Is he that good that it’s worth the risk?

UPDATE, 12:35 a.m.: Is there anybody alive out there? It’s the bottom of the ninth, there have been two rain delays and the game is tied. The Yankees have Mo and Billy Traber left in the bullpen now that Joba is working a second inning.

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1,073 Responses to “Game 23: Yankees at White Sox”

  1. Rocco

    S-W-E-E-P

  2. Westerner99

    Let’s see who has the first complaint about the lineup…

  3. JoeT YANKEES

    7-5 angels with 2 outs

    Let’s go Yanks!! Good start from Phil Franchise tonight

  4. BIlly

    After 22 games:

    2007 New York Yankees 9-13
    2008 New York Yankees

  5. BIlly

    After 22 games

    2007 New York Yankees 9-13
    2008 New York Yankees 12-10

    I’m happy so far.

  6. Steph

    Looks like another new lineup for Girardi. Doesn’t look too bad, though. I’m looking forward to seeing Molina again.

    Go Yanks! Manny flies out to end the game in Boston.

  7. TKinDC

    Who cares about the line-up?

    According to the splits the Pale Ho’s have never gotten a single hit Franchise.

    (they’ve incidentally never faced Phil)

  8. Don Vito A. Bellamo

    theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee BoSux lose ! :-)

  9. SJ44

    Billy Traber against lefties this year: 6-16 .375 Avg) .500 OBP.

    Gotta be better than that because its a waste to have a lefty specialist on the roster who can’t get lefties out.

    It ties up a spot in the ‘pen and on this team, you need all the arms you can muster for bullpen work.

  10. SJ44

    No complaints about the lineup. They still need a first baseman though and I hope something is in the works on that front.

    This is a game Phil should be able to throw free and easy. They already won the series so its not make or break.

    Just go out there and let it fly.

  11. Steph

    Well, you have to hope that the Yanks don’t hold onto him as long as they held onto Myers.

  12. James G

    Big game tonight, we need Hughes to pitch well. It’ll go far towards bolsering his confidence, and the sweep would be great too.

    Can anyone believe this team is over .500 w/ all the injuries, 20 straight games, Joba leaving, ARod leaving, and the poor pitching from Moose, Hughes and Kennedy so far? Not to mention most of the team not hitting at all?

    I’ll take 12-10 for the time being!

  13. Joe Beningo

    How is Jeter 1 for his last 14? His line for the last 3 games is 2 for 5, 0 for 5, and 1 for 5. At worst, he’s 3 for his last 15, but I’m pretty sure he’s 2 for his last 11.

  14. TKinDC

    SJ –
    I totally agree. In a suspect bullpen I don’t want to waste a spot for a specialist when we are better served cycling guys up here from the minor leagues to see if anyone can contribute.

    You never know when somebody will figure things out and respond well to the pressure of NY. Edwar was interesting last year but eventually got exposed, but it was fun while it lasted and he had some great moments.

  15. Westerner99

    Since Traber is iffy at best, perhaps they could use his roster spot for a long man…and still hold onto Ollie to use in better situations.

  16. Farnn

    Any reason Damon is DH and Matsui is playing LF?

  17. Steph

    Ohlendorf deserves to pitch in better situations, I agree. He has great stuff, but he has basically been used as the long man all year. I think the Yankees should call up Rasner to fill that role and let Ollie try his hand at the 7th inning. If and when Joba’s in the rotation, he might be the answer for the 8th.

  18. Jerkface

    Matsui in LF, booooo

  19. Steph

    Probably to give Damon a half-day to rest his legs since Matsui has been the DH for a while and could use some field time.

  20. S.o.S.27

    I think Gonzalez should be in there for Cano. Cano needs a break away from the game. If not, Cabrera needs to be moved up in the lineup.

  21. whozat

    “Any reason Damon is DH and Matsui is playing LF?”

    Rotating veteran rest. Bobby will sit soon as well, with the lefties coming up. I hope that Shelley gets to come up in time for that…it’d be the ideal situation, ESPECIALLY if ARod is still out. I’d love to run

    Damon
    Jeter
    Matsui (DH)
    ARod (3B)
    Posada©
    Cano
    Ensberg (1B)
    Duncan (RF)
    Melky

    out there against the upcoming lefties.

  22. SJ44

    Funny thing is, Traber was 9-51 against lefties last year. he also pitched great in the spring in his role.

    Thus far? Not good. Why? Advance scouting.

    Advance scouting can dissect anybody. What you are seeing are lefties opening up, anticipating his curveball (his signature pitch) and getting great hacks on it. He has to make adjustments.

    He is going to have to work away more to keep hitters honest or he isn’t going to last in NY.

    You can call up a guy like Edwar (his changeup is nasty on lefties) or Albie to go after lefties.

    I’m in Charleston to watch the River Dogs this weekend. If the wireless service is strong, I’ll check in during the game.

    Enjoy all!

  23. Steph

    Oh, you are lucky! Tell us how it’s going down on the farm. Well, besides the fact that the team is excellent.

  24. whozat

    “Any reason Damon is DH and Matsui is playing LF?”

    In general, folks, get used to seeing the OFers DH or sit once a week. Unless there’s any reason to think they might have been hurt, they usually weren’t and are just getting normal rest.

  25. jennifer

    This is the 20th different lineup! Jesus Joe!! Enough already. :)

    Just kidding.

  26. Jer

    I went to the last two games (I’m in Chicago) and I really want to go to this one to see Phil, but the weather forecast is not looking too good: http://tinyurl.com/4qacvt

  27. kill.schill(ing)

    Pete, can you obtain an injury update on the Sultan of Bruney’s foot, particulary if the MRI showed any more serious than a sprain?

    Would love to know the precise severity of A-Rod’s injury and when we next can expect to see an “A-Bomb from A-Rod”

    But I suspect you’ll have an easier time Pete discovering when we should expect to see an A-bomb from Ahmadinejad.

  28. Sara

    ok, did girardi not see that they walked Giambi twice last night to pitch to Ensberg? Why would he put him in the 5 spot? so they can walk Matsui? I don’t get it!

  29. jimmy27

    “we’re gonna keep running him out there”

    Joe G on Jason G.

  30. jennifer

    Actually it looks like they might be okay. Click storm track than animate.

    http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=pan&prevzoom=zoom&num=6&frame=0&delay=15&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=LOT&type=N0R&showstorms=10&lat=41.84999847&lon=-87.65000153&label=Chicago,%20IL&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000&centerx=400&centery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerror=20&num_stns_min=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999

  31. Westerner99

    Ah, we have a winner!

  32. kill.schill(ing)

    thanks SJ44, always appreciate your update on the kids—and the civil tone in which you conduct an argument.

    I hope this blog continues to remain civil even when posters disagree.

    Let’s hope Hughes gives us no reason to this evening.

  33. jennifer

    I was only jokeing!!

  34. Patrick

    “Thus far? Not good. Why? Advance scouting. ”

    Wrong, more like SMALL SAMPLE SIZE.

    Honestly SJ relax, less than a month into the season and all of a sudden Traber sucks. He hasn’t gotten many opportunities yet, give it more time.

  35. S.o.S.27

    Boy do the rangers suck. They are getting wooped by everyone. I cant wait to get some of that.

    Utley already has 10 bombs. Best hitting 2nd baseman?

  36. Westerner99

    Kill – the only way it will remain civil is if:
    1- no one brings up Joba as a starter vs. reliever
    2- the Yankees don’t fall behind
    3- Giambi has a good game
    4- Matsui plays well in the field
    5- Abreu doesn’t have to go to the wall in the field
    6- Any reliever other than Joba or Mo is brought in

    Otherwise, it will be the same old, same old…sadly.

  37. TKinDC

    boy kill schill –

    what is funnier than nuclear holocaust?

    That’s comedic gold right? no?

  38. Westerner99

    Texas’ GM didn’t give Ron Washington much to work with at the major league level in Texas. I hope Washington lands on his feet with another franchise. He’s a good man and a good coach.

  39. HE from NJ

    sweep dem sox!

  40. S.o.S.27

    7.Joba doesnt pitch 2 innings in a blowout.
    8.Cano doesnt swing at every first pitch.
    9.Hughes pitches less than 4 innings.

  41. G. Love

    I’m not as down on Traber as SJ. The hit against him last night was an out with a 1b who can actually field his position.

    He did his job against Thome last night. He kept it in the park and it was a playable ground ball that eluded our defensively challenged 1b.

    I definitely give him more time. He should not be a candidate for DFA at all yet in my opinion.

  42. Don Vito A. Bellamo

    Westerner99 , hey buddy, how’s it going, NN ???

  43. S.o.S.27

    For all you 80’s junkies. Their is a G.I. Joe movie coming to theatres. Not animated either. “GI JOE. The real american hero”! Cant wait!

  44. hughman

    Cano vs. Pedroia

    Career average about the same. Cano slugging is about 40 points higher, Pedroia oba about 30 ponts higher (I think career OB+ slugging is about .815 for Cano and .805 for Pedroia). Cano has better range, better on the DP. Maybe Pedroia is more consistent, although he started last year poorly. Cano more upside still.

    Pedroia having a great start. Cano is obviously more talented and probably better player. He’ll pick it up as it heats up.

    Now, Phil Franchise, let’s see what you can do tonight.

  45. Amanda from La.

    SWEEP Hughes is going to dominate tonight surely!

  46. Dynasty Is Destiny!

    Yes, Hughes will step up tonight!

    Go Yanks!

  47. Dynasty Is Destiny!

    Amanda,

    Love that pic of Yankee Stadium on your blog!

  48. S.A.-Phil Hughes was saved and Joba will be a starter!

    Let’s go Yankees!
    I hope Phil has a great outing today. :)

  49. JRVJ

    Pete,

    With the proviso that the Yanks may want him around as a PH, I’m not too clear on why the Yanks have A-Rod around if he’s not going to start.

    Heck, even if he’s able to PH, you’d think an extra full day of rest would help him, PLUS, his wife just had a daughter, and you’d think an extra day with his wife and new daughter (plus older daughter) would more than outweigh the usefulness of having him around as a PH…. (I mean, the guy has just flown from Miami to Chicago, to probably not play, to then fly to Cleveland tomorrow….).

  50. Hockey

    Ensberg in the 5 spot? Uhhh…..why is that?

  51. rackem

    Steph I agree with you on Rasner and Ohlendorf.

  52. Buddy Biancalana

    Well now we can put those Oswalt rumors to rest. He would only waive his no trade clause to the Cards, Braves & Blow Sox.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080424&content_id=2579533&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou&partnered=rss_hou

  53. SJ44

    I’m not down on Traber yet. Just pointing out his numbers.

    Patrick, lefty specialist have small sample sizes. That’s why the role is so difficult. You have to get outs and you aren’t going to be given a chance to have a large sample size.

    Lefties were 9-51 against him last year. He has already had 16 chances this year and has given up 6 hits. From a trend standpoint, that’s not good.

    Last night, agreed, he did his job and Giambi did not do his job on the grounder to first.

    Overall though, he has to be better. You can’t have a lefty specialist who can’t get lefties out. Lefties having a .500 OBP against him is not what the Yankees are looking for in their lefty specialist.

    A couple of good outings and he has the chance to get back into a good groove. If he continues to struggle, its hard for me to see him lasting a long time on the roster because they need the space for better arms in the ‘pen.

  54. Jeff NJ

    Sheffield considering retirement if his shoulder doesn’t get better quickly. Who’s the idiot who mentioned today that he would rather have Sheff as our DH?

  55. John

    That rumor was started by Peter Gammons, probably because he wants Roy to be a Red Sock… :)

  56. Joe from Long Island

    SJ44 –
    I’m thinking of going to Charleston in the fall, when I can get some time off. Any suggestions? How is it in November, say?

  57. SJ44

    JeffNJ,

    The same person who called the Yankees “One step away from being the Bad News Bears” a few days ago.

    Getting rid of Sheffield was the best thing to happen to the Yankees on a lot of fronts.

    Once Humberto Sanchez can show what he can do, the trade will look even better.

  58. chris u

    Is this the Floyd that almost threw a no-no earlier this year?

  59. John

    Yup, this is him…

  60. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    Afternoon everyone!

  61. hughman

    SJ, 51 is a small sample size and so is 16. A better indicator, although sample is still small, would be BA on Balls in Play. How many does he K, how many homers, etc.

    Admittedly, you’d like him to pitch better. It’s early. The trend obviously sucks with cano, too, on a larger sample size. No one wants to give up on him. Much better track record, though.

    I agree you don’t need a lefty to have a lefty specialist. Amriano murders lefties, but his role is taken. Maybe edwar. bring back edwar! ;-)

  62. SJ44

    Joe,

    Charleston is great. Its really nice in the Fall. The weather is really nice that time of year.

    The best thing to do is look to stay downtown. All of the restaurants around King and Broad Sts. are excellent. Its a really good restaurant town.

    The Embassy Suites on Meeting St. is the place to stay. Its close to everything and its a very clean hotel.

  63. Fran

    Heard Girardi on Mike and the Mad Dog. Alex is doing well and could probably pinch hit tonight if need be. He is receiving some more treatment on his leg and will be evaluated tomorrow. He is day to day like Derek, but Alex told Girardi he is feeling pretty good.

  64. 99 cents

    2-0 without A-Rod. Keep a good thing going Yankeess.

  65. SJ44

    You are always going to have small sample sizes with lefty specialists. That’s why its a role that’s so hard to fill on a team.

    You will never have a lefty specialist with a large sample size. They get 40-60 chances a year to do their jobs. If they trend poorly out of the gate (like Mike Myers last year and Damaso Marte this year) teams re-evaluate as to whether or not they can afford to tie up a roster space with an ineffective one trick pony.

    Comparing lefty specialists with everyday players is an apples to oranges argument. Billy Traber isn’t going to have 500 chances to get it going like Robinson Cano will have this year. Not the way it works.

    Its a very tough job. But, if that’s your role, you have to do it and Traber has to be better than this if he wants to spend the year on the roster, IMO.

  66. Joe from Long Island

    Thanks, SJ. Your tips on Tampa were helpful, also.

  67. Amanda from La.

    Dynasty- thanks!

    Just did a little copy and pasting….hope that isn’t an infringement :)

  68. jay destro

    time to dfa moeller

  69. hughman

    BTW, lefties were 9-55 against Traber last year, but hit 3 homers. k-bb ws decent, 15-3. Righties killed him. And he was awful in 2006. And he was a Met first round pick before blowing out his arm.

    If anything is flukey, it was actually his ability to get lefties out last year. And that was a pretty small sample size too. Anyway, 4 homers in 19 innings in ‘07 and ‘08 so far for Traber.

    OBA this year and last about .260, but 4 dingers by lefties in 77 plate appearances. 19-5 k-bb in 19 innings versus lefties. Then again, he likely is brought in to face some tough leftie hombres.

  70. mel

    Remember the best hitter discussion we had last week?

    Here’s what the managers think.

    I think they underrate Manny.

    Enjoy!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=rumblings

  71. Jaewon

    If Molina can catch, why is Moeller still on the team?

    Soon:
    Lineup:
    Damon
    Jeter
    Abreu
    A-Rod
    Matsui
    Posada
    Giambi
    Cano
    Cabrera
    (something like that)

    Bench:
    Shelley
    Molina
    Alberto Gonzalez
    Ensberg.

    That’s nasty.

  72. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    mel, are you saying that ESPN reads this blog and gets their ideas for articles based on what we here say in the comments?

    Dude. That is so. effing. cool.

    :-D

  73. hughman

    Just because a lefty specialist has a small sample size every season doesn’t change the fact it is a small sample. A lefty specialist, s opposed to just a lefty reliever, usually isn’t THAT good a pitcher other than this one skill. Often, their success fluctuate year to year, and that is often due to the sample size. many teams play musical chairs with lefty specialists, trying to find one, and some are just clueless that it isn’t the picther who changed, just the luck.

    Traber likely just ain’t THAT good, although he ws ok against lefties last year. But it is EXTREMELY difficult to take a 19 plate appearance against sample and make anything of it. Freddy Patek had a 3 homer game once. It was a fluke.

    But, if your main point is that maybe Traber isn’t that good a lefty specialist, i think that is highly likely.

  74. whozat

    “If Molina can catch, why is Moeller still on the team?”

    Because either Posada or Molina could have a set-back, and if they can’t send Moeller back to the minors without losing him. Posada has to show he can throw in games, and you’d like Molina to show that his hammy won’t hinder him before you ditch your only other catching option with MLB experience.

  75. whozat

    “and if they can’t send Moeller back to the minors without losing him.”

    No if here. They can’t send Moeller back to the minors without (at least) risking losing him.

  76. Boston Dave

    mel,

    if it were the yankees answering, Manny would be #1. he’s not nearly as dangerous against the other teams (at least according to the #s).

    I think Utley should be up on that list and Vlad down a little bit. Vlad is imposing at the plate, in the same way Sheffield is, but teams are starting to figure out that you don’t need to throw him strikes.

  77. Jeff NJ

    Gavin Floyd is a flash in the pan, the Yankees will handle him tonight just fine.

  78. Therston

    I will complain about the line up…now, but only the defensive positioning because every time Phil Hughes starts, Matsui is put in left field and makes a horrible play in the 1st or 2nd Inning. It seems that way to me….hopefully not tonight.

  79. Boston Dave

    hughman,

    of the 6 hits off of Traber, 4 were singles, 1 was a double, and 1 was a HR. He also hit Carlos Pena.

    It’s possible that a couple of the singles (Thome included) were flukes or plays that should have been outs, but the extra base hits, if they continue, would be a major problem.

    I think he should get more time, but it’s not a bad idea to think about plan B just in case.

  80. Boston Dave

    Peter Gammons talking out of his arse again….

    Roy Oswalt laughed when asked about rumors he was interested in waiving his no-trade clause. Peter Gammons had raised the possibility on ESPN’s “Baseball Tonight,” with the Yankees being the likely destination for Oswalt. “I don’t know where he’s getting that from. That came out of left field somewhere. I don’t know if he just brought it up or if he heard it from somewhere. I don’t know where he got it,” Oswalt said.

    from astros.mlb.com

  81. gargoyle

    Gammons is pitiful.

    Why are Murray Chass or Tracy Ringolsby never referred to as “Hall of Famers?” They won the Spink award just as Gammons did.

  82. A.B.K

    A-Rod named his new baby daughter, Ella Alexander Rodriguez and he gave a cigar to every Yankee player. (Star Ledger).

  83. Guiseppe Franco

    I’m in the minority here, but I don’t have a problem with Peter Gammons at all. The man can say whatever he wants.

    He’s still one of the top baseball writers in the country and he’s in the HoF for a reason.

    RSN didn’t vote him in all by themselves.

  84. Dirk from Rockland

    Damon needs to keep his legs fresh…. but the Yankees need his bat in the lineup. INteresting that Ensberg is batting that high. But Joe knows Morgan better than I do. Get the brooms out!!

  85. Westerner99

    If Enberg had been lower, Girardi would have had 4 lefties in a row. I don’t put too much stock in that since Matsui hits LHP well…but it is probably a consideration that he didn’t want 4 in a row.

  86. Boston Dave

    Giuseppe,

    I personally think Gammons has lost a step. His opinions may still have some merit (debatable) but IF he’s making up rumors or reporting on rumors with no founding from weak sources, it doesn’t look good. No question he was the best in his hayday.

  87. Joe from Long Island

    When did Rasner last pitch for Scranton? That may determine if he, or someone else, is called up to replace Brian Bruney.

  88. Buddy Biancalana

    So who gets the call assuming Bruney goes on the DL, Patterson or Rasner?

  89. Guiseppe Franco

    Gammons is not making up rumors and he probably has more inside sources than any other baseball writer in the business.

    Not surprisingly, Yankee fans are tougher on Gammons for his reporting simply because he’s a Red Sox fan.

    They do the same thing for virtually everyone who works for ESPN because of the supposed “anti-Yankees bias” nonsense.

  90. Buddy Biancalana

    Rasner threw 8 inn on the 21st

  91. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    Rasner’s been pitching better than Patterson; I imagine he’d get the call up to the big guys.

    More importantly, if Rasner goes up and Scranton has a whole in their rotation, who fills in at Scranton?

  92. pat

    “Given that it’s his push-off foot, it seems almost certain that Bruney will go on the disabled list.”

    Alba? Patterson? Veras?

    If they DFA Moeller anytime soon, that opens up a spot on the 40 man so that wouldn’t factor in.

  93. JRVJ

    I’d say that who gets called up depends fully on how long Phil pitches tonight (if he pitches 7, and it’s a 9 inning game, it’s a short reliever. If not, it’s Rassner).

  94. Joe from Long Island

    Thanks, Buddy. Assuming 4 days rest, he could pitch this weekend. He might get the call. If not him, then I hope Patterson. Though I think it will be Rasner if they’re looking at a potential long man.

  95. TKinDC

    Guiseppe Franco –
    I don’t get your point. Gammons is a Red Sox fan, but you think it is unfair for us to get on his case because he is a red sox fan?

    It isn’t like Buster Olney who just covered the yanks. Gammons publicizes his season ticket status (he broadcast from them last year)

    It is like Baghdad Bob. At some point you just don’t have any credibility.

  96. Westerner99

    Since Alba was the last one up and didn’t bomb…he’ll probably get the call for a short reliever.

  97. hmmm

    “He’s still one of the top baseball writers in the country and he’s in the HoF for a reason. ”

    actually, he’s NOT in the Hall of Fame.

    He is a winner of the Spink Award.

    “The Spink Award is awarded at the induction ceremonies of the Baseball Hall of Fame the year following the selection of the recipient. In recent years, the Hall of Fame has announced the finalists for the award and final vote totals. Previously, the results were kept secret.

    Winners are not considered to be members of the Hall, but are permanently recognized in an exhibit at the Hall. ”

  98. Boston Dave

    “ESPN because of the supposed “anti-Yankees bias” nonsense.”

    Are you suggesting that there aren’t some analysts who have an anti-Yankee bias?

    Yankee fans are definitely harder on Gammons than others but Gammons has done little or nothing to remain impartial when it comes to the Sox in the past 5+ years. He drools over every Sox prospect. That’s his right… but why wouldn’t Yankee fans not like it?

    Hating the Yankees is good for business. No question about that. It’s fine if ESPN wants to cater to the majority of their viewers. It’s also fine for Yankee fans to call them out on it when it happens. I won’t make a general blanket statement for all of ESPN, but there are without a doubt analysts and writers for ESPN that HATE the Yankees.

  99. Doreen

    If he’d arrived 10 minutes BEFORE, I would give ARod his miracle, but 10 minutes after was pretty darn lucky. Although, in light of the story told on YES by Kay and Singleton that ARod had fainted at the birth of his first child, maybe it truly WAS a miracle – he got there early enough, and didn’t have to put his mettle to the test. :lol:

    Is there a chance that this game will be rained out, or is it supposed to clear up? Is it cold? I’m just worried about the conditions for Phil Hughes.

    I wonder who they’ll call up to replace Bruney, and isn’t it kind of fortuitous that they get to call up a fresh pitcher and still keep Moeller? (I’m just saying that if somethings going to go wrong, might as well see the bright side – I’m not saying Bruney’s injury isn’t legit.)

  100. JoeT YANKEES

    So interesting find here from my espn fantasy league…. on Phil Hughes:

    Hughes’ struggles are stemming from the leadoff hitter getting on base against him frequently to begin an inning, the NY Newsday reports.
    Spin: Leadoff hitters are batting .471 against Hughes, while opposing teams have scored in eight of the 10 innings where the first hitter has reached base. On the other side, Hughes has been scored on just once after retiring the first hitter. He’s much too talented to pitch this poorly in the long run, while the Yankees are more likely to send Ian Kennedy to Triple-A than Hughes, so his spot in the rotation is safe for now.

  101. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    Pete: A miracle because he made it or because he missed it?

  102. gayle

    Just got back from Florida vacation for Passover and boy you ca see baseball on TV be it college or high school. Was able to catch the ESPN game last night gosh the announcers are horrible.

    Hate to say it but actually looking forward to Kay tonight (my mlb.com didnt work on the rents computer for some reason)

  103. pat

    He missed the birth by 10 minutes and the timing was a miracle? Not sure Cynthia will be thrilled to read that.

  104. Jeff NJ

    I would think a miracle would be 10 minutes before Ella was born.

  105. gayle

    Also i read this last night somewhere but believe it or not with last nights win the Yankees are off to tehri best start since 2004

  106. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    Pat: LMAO!

  107. Christine

    So Alex arrived 10 minutes AFTER the birth? I guess he didn’t want to pass out this time. :-)

    I’m glad the jet got him there so quickly. Congratulations to the expanded family.

  108. hmmm

    Gammons lost his credibility last year when he said that A-Rod signaled to Joba to throw at Youkilis’ head.

    sorry, but that was beyond insane and irresponsible. also, a pile of bullcrap.

  109. Guiseppe Franco

    I don’t get your point. Gammons is a Red Sox fan, but you think it is unfair for us to get on his case because he is a red sox fan?

    What you’re suggesting is that Gammons cannot be objective simply because he is Red Sox fan.

    I don’t think that’s true at all. The guy gives the Yanks kudos all the time and only rips them when it’s warranted.

    We make many of the same criticisms of this team but it seems as if those criticisms are off limits for Gammons in the eyes of Yankee fans.

  110. TKinDC

    Hopefully A-Rod doesn’t have to run his first game back, he can just trot around the bases!

    Westbrook and Borzinski should be out for our series!

  111. JT

    Just last week, Gammons was leading the charge to have Farnseworth suspended for “trying to kill” Manny. Oh give me a break. When you let your homer emotions take charge of your reporting, is when you lose credibility. And that is exactly what Gammons has been doing lately.

  112. hmmm

    “Just last week, Gammons was leading the charge to have Farnseworth suspended for “trying to kill” Manny. ”

    exactly.

    he clearly lost his objectivity there.

    how do i know?

    b/c this is what MANNY said about it:

    “”He don’t deserve that. He was just protecting his players,” Ramirez said. “You know we hit A-Rod the game before.” ”

  113. Boston Dave

    “We make many of the same criticisms of this team but it seems as if those criticisms are off limits for Gammons in the eyes of Yankee fans.”

    the only criticisms that are apparently off-limits for Gammons are towards the Red Sox.

    He may still be a decent writer/analyst because of his passion for the game, but his opinions are absolutely less meaningful than they were years ago.

  114. jyates29

    Scott Patterson?

  115. Dynasty Is Destiny!

    “The guy gives the Yanks kudos all the time…”

    Can you cite examples…I’d be interested in reading good comments about the Yankees from Peter Gammons…

  116. SJ44

    Here at Charleston, its the bottom of the second and its 2-0 Columbus.

    Betances walked the first two guys in the second inning and a 2 out single brought them in.

    First time I have seen Betances pitch.

    Early impressions. Solid fastball. Its run 90-94 so far this evening. He threw a great curveball for a K in the first inning. He is a little wild but, as he did in the first, just struck out a guy after a walk.

    His windup isn’t complicated or rushed.

    He’s a really big kid. He has some moving parts that will require constant work on his mechanics.

    That said, its easy to see why the Yankees are so high on him. He’s a very talented kid.

    Montero? So far, he’s getting abused a bit behind the plate. A throwing error (good throw, just hit the runner) and he just got run over on a 2 out single that gave Columbus the lead.

    He singled in his first AB. He’s awkward behind the plate but doesn’t look out of place. He looks like an 18 year old catcher, which he is.

    His first AB, he hit a curveball the other way for a single. A very nice piece of hitting.

    Brad Suttle is back in the lineup after missing the last two weeks with a hip flexor injury. I am interested in seeing him hit because he had really taken to the adjustments the Yankees made to his swing prior to his injury.

  117. mel

    It’s not that Gammons can’t be objective. It’s that he isn’t objective.

    It’s not quite on the Steve Phillips level of hate, because Gammons truly respects the Yankees. He just loves the Sox so much it makes him biased. Just a little.

    Subtle little things like overrating his players and dumping on other young players. Of course we’re talking Yankees because he doesn’t talk about much else.

    Taking little things and blowing them out of proportion. But that’s okay. Yankees sells and he’s just doing his job.

    We can respect him, but he doesn’t even bother to hide his bias anymore.

  118. Guiseppe Franco

    A lot of baseball writers wanted Farnsworth suspended for what he did.

    Why is Gammons the guy singled out?

    Because he’s a Red Sox fan. That’s the bottom line.

    Yankee fans lose all perspective when there is any connection to the Red Sox. It’s like people are incapable of being the least bit objective if they root for one team or the other.

  119. jimmy27

    Milledge was benched by Acta for being late to the ballpark.
    -if anyone cares
    (things get slow before the game)

  120. Westerner99

    For examples of Gammons talking positively about the Yankees, go to ESPN.com and click on his columns.

  121. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    anyone else not getting sound from YES?

  122. mel

    FWIW, Gammons “loves” Hughes.

  123. Boston Dave

    Giuseppe,

    we are singling out Gammons right now because of the Oswalt rumor and your response to it.

    We could be speaking about any number of ESPN analysts who hate the Yankees – Steve Phillips, Jim Caple….

    is Steve Phillips a Red Sox fan? No. We still rip on him.

    so there goes your argument.

  124. jimmy27

    Gammons said he was a huge Phil fan last week, also had a said something else pro-yankee (on the Kay show)

  125. Boston Dave

    forget Gammons giving the Yanks credit, he does.

    Find some examples where Gammons rips the Red Sox as much as he has, at times, ripped the Yankees.

    Are we really debating whether Gammons has a pro-Red Sox bias?

    really?

  126. hmmm

    “Why is Gammons the guy singled out?

    Because he’s a Red Sox fan. That’s the bottom line.”

    wrong. he was singled out b/c he called Farnsworth a “AAA pitcher”, which was simply unprofessional.

    no one here like Farns, including myself, but he is a major league pitcher.

    he may not be a great one, but it DOES take talent to put up a 4.47 ERA for about 700 innings.

  127. whozat

    Why didn’t they DL Bruney already? Perhaps this will give them the room to bring up Rasner to back up Kennedy on Saturday.

  128. Doreen

    I am going to make a guess here and say that I think that people wouldn’t be quite so upset with Gammons, et al., if there were at least one media person out there who was pro-Yankee and showed it. Even our own announcers go out of their way to be “impartial,” and it often comes across as being a little harsh on our own team. Heck even Cone and O’Neill, the only time they’re really rah-rah is when they’re reminiscing about the Yankees of days gone by. They are highly critical of this bunch of Yankees.

    Listen, I don’t mind the criticism as long as it’s valid. I just think we might all feel a little like we get the short end of the stick all the time. :)

  129. mel

    Boston Dave,

    You’ve got a point. Gammons has praised the Yankees more times than he’s ripped the Red Sox. 1-0? Maybe 2-0? lol.

    On second thought, maybe Gammons was stumping for Phil’s vote in next year’s election…

  130. JT

    I’m not saying that Gammons doesn’t say any good things about the Yankees, i’m just saying he is a homer towards the Red Sox. But in response to that, the Yankees are a good team, so Gammons just can’t go saying they suck.

    You can’t deny that Gammons was being partial when calling for Farnseworth’s suspension. As a matter of fact, all the baseball writers these days are huge reactionist and follow Gammons like a god. Like i said early, Gammons was clearly leading the charge, everyone else just jumped on his wagon.

    It’s obviously ok to hit a Jeter or Arod, but when a Manny gets brushed back, Gammons, who just so happens to be a huge Red Sox fan, leads the call for a suspension. I don’t see Gammons calling for suspensions to every player who almost gets hit around the shoulders by a pitcher. No only if its a red sox player. Shoot, just last week Damon almost got hit in the head. Where is the reaction????

  131. Fran

    On the pre-game on YES they said the weather is supposed to get worse before it gets better. The tarp is still on the field.

  132. jimmy27

    looks like a rain delay

  133. Guiseppe Franco

    we are singling out Gammons right now because of the Oswalt rumor and your response to it.

    Um, maybe you’re having a tough time reading but my response to the Farnsworth question was because of this….

    Just last week, Gammons was leading the charge to have Farnseworth [sic] suspended for “trying to kill” Manny. Oh give me a break

    Your last argument…

    We could be speaking about any number of ESPN analysts who hate the Yankees – Steve Phillips, Jim Caple….

    is Steve Phillips a Red Sox fan? No. We still rip on him.

    so there goes your argument.

    But what do all of those commentators you mentioned have in common?

    They all work for ESPN – also known as “N-ESPN” by many people on this very blog.

    Perhaps there goes YOUR argument.

  134. jennifer

    Kay is screaming it is POURING. :(

  135. hmmm

    watch this clip and tell me that Gammons is not letting his fandom ruin his professionalism and objectivity. he can’t even form his sentences he’s so irate:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2008/04/18/in-which-peter-gammons-act-like-the-red-sox-homer-he-really-is-2592/

  136. Mr. Exceptional

    This arguement is nonsense regarding Gammons…he did nothing but praise the Yankees during the late 90’s. Give it a rest. The Sox are a good team right now. Gammons is a man of the game.

  137. SJ44

    Gammons loves Brian Cashman. He loves what Cashman is trying to do and he has insane man love for Derek Jeter. He hates the Steinbrenners. Always has and that’s never going to change. No big deal because a lot of people hate the Steinbrenners.

    He loves the Red Sox and there is no question his bias toward them (as well as his close friendship with Theo) affects his commentary at this point in his career.

    Need proof? Find the last column he has written that contained any negative commentary on the Red Sox or their prospects. Its non-existent.

    He, like everybody else, went overboard with the Farnsworth stuff.

    At this point in his career, he’s more a fan than reporter. After 40+ years in the business, he’s entitled.

    As long as you understand that, his commentary shouldn’t bug you.

    At one time he was, far and away, the best baseball writer in the country.

    Sources? No question, he has a lot of them. He also makes sure he doesn’t report anything that would impact the Red Sox in a negative way. Its just the way it is.

    The Oswalt rumor? No big deal.

    You do television 5 days a week at ESPN and you are going to have to come up with something. Its the pressure of doing TV. Producers want rumors. The NFL guys make a living reporting every rumor that comes down the pike during draft week and few if any come true.

  138. S.A.-Phil Hughes was saved and Joba will be a starter!

    rain rain go away

  139. jennifer

    Look at underground weather. Looks like it should clear up.

  140. RustyJohn

    Moehler is out of options I believe, that is why he is on the team and they want to make sure Posada and Molina are healthy before he goes bye-bye. Why isn’t Posada catching tonight after he was the doubles machine last night?

    As for Ensberg batting where he is, to break up all the lefties and he is hitting .300 while Cano and Giambi are sub Mendoza- the reason they walked Giambi last night was because of match-ups and open bases on first.

  141. Betsy

    Phil always gets stuck with the worst conditions – only good thing is that the game hasn’t begun and hopefully it will clear up.

    Anyone have an idea as to the temperature? I’m hoping it’s in the 60’s at least….......better for Phil that way. Of course, with the wet conditions…boy that sucks. Of all nights for it to rain…...

  142. SJ44

    Man, the Columbus pitcher just got drilled right between the numbers by a line drive by Austin Krum. Lucky he turned his back but it caught him flush. He is still down.

  143. Mr. Exceptional

    I will say that I don’t watch Baseball Tonight as much as I once did. There’s one host who always refers to Fenway Park as “The Fens”...now he’s an annoying homer.

    What do expect from ESPN, they’re based in Bristol.

    I do miss Harold Reynolds though…

  144. S.A.-Phil Hughes was saved and Joba will be a starter!

    68 right now in chicago

  145. SJ44

    Doreen,

    ESPN had a Pro-Yankee commentator at one time. It was Harold Reynolds and he got fired.

    He also just settled his lawsuit with ESPN for a LOT of money.

    The Columbus pitcher is staying in the game and just gave up a single.

  146. Guiseppe Franco

    wrong. he was singled out b/c he called Farnsworth a “AAA pitcher”, which was simply unprofessional.

    no one here like Farns, including myself, but he is a major league pitcher.

    He is a major league pitcher?

    Is that why everyone on this blog would DFA right now if the choice was promoting Scott Patterson (a journeyman who has never thrown a pitch in the majors) or keeping Farnsworth on the roster?

    Farnsworth essentially is a Triple-A pitcher. Nobody in this forum wants to keep him and would drop him in a heartbeat if they could.

    It’s funny how the only time anyone on this blog has ever defended Farnsworth was after he was ripped by Peter Gammons.

  147. hmmm

    “What is KYLE FARNSWORTH doing throwing at Manny Ramirez?!!”

    i don’t know Peter, sometimes that happens in baseball. especially the day after A-Rod got hit.

    i’m sure Gammons would react like that if Farnsworth hit Paul Konerko.

    that’s what me mean. it’s ok to be a Sox fan. but when you are reporting for ESPN, you have to at least PRETEND to be objective.

  148. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactive/USIL0225?from=36hr_maps&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar

    Radar. Looks like a definite delay, but shouldn’t be unbearably long like that Detroit game last year…

  149. Fran

    Harold Reynolds signed a contract with SNY today. He will be working as a studio analyst for some Met Games.

  150. Westerner99

    Darn…I was hoping YES would sign Reynolds to work the studio with Lorenz.

  151. SJ44

    Giuseppe,

    To be fair, that’s not the type of commentary an objective reporter gives after that incident. The pitch didn’t even hit Manny for God sake.

    It looks even worse when after the game Manny isn’t even upset about it. If he isn’t upset about it, why is Peter?

    Its was a kneejerk reaction by a fan. That’s not what you want from an “objective” commentator with over 40 years in the business.

    Funny, Peter wasn’t that upset with Pedro Martinez when he sent Soriano and Jeter to the hospital after drilling them several years ago.

    Its really not debatable that his objectivity goes out the window when it comes to the Red Sox. Its ok. Its like arguing with grandpa. Its not the end of the world.

  152. RustyJohn

    I still take exception with Gammons comments not because he was knocking Farnsworth, but because his hypothesis that the only pitchers who can hit batters are those of equal or greater caliber than the hitter. So it would be okay if Farnsworth hit Travis Buck of the Oakland A’s, but he can’t hit Manny. Is this one of those stupid unwritten rules of baseball that people invent out of thin air? WOuld it be acceptable to Gammons is Pettite hit Manny or if Mo hit Manny?

  153. Boston Dave

    Giuseppe Franco says “Why is Gammons the guy singled out?

    Because he’s a Red Sox fan. That’s the bottom line.”

    IF that is the bottom line, as you say, then explain why we don’t like Steve Phillips, who is not a Sox fan.

    keep digging as long you want. soon enough your argument will reach China. maybe they’ll believe your crap.

  154. Mr. Exceptional

    HR was the best. Baseball Tonight hasn’t been the same since.

  155. hmmm

    “It’s funny how the only time anyone on this blog has ever defended Farnsworth was after he was ripped by Peter Gammons.”

    yes, i admit, i don’t like Farnsworth.

    but calling him a “AAA pitcher” on baseball tonight is ridiculous.

    everyone has seen the numbers on the number of times Jeter and A-Rod have been hit compared to Manny-Ortiz.

    so, based on the fact that it’s something like 22-3, Gammons should be OBJECTIVE and temper his bile.

    he came off like a crybaby.

  156. SJ44

    Montero just got another hit, a 2 out single, to drive in a run to make the score 2-1. He leads the league in hits with 34. Leads the league in RBI with 18, and is now hitting over .370.

    18 years old. Unbelievable.

  157. Boston Dave

    “It’s funny how the only time anyone on this blog has ever defended Farnsworth was after he was ripped by Peter Gammons.”

    keep digging

  158. hmmm

    “To be fair, that’s not the type of commentary an objective reporter gives after that incident. The pitch didn’t even hit Manny for God sake.”

    thank God, i thought i was losing my mind.

  159. Westerner99

    With Montero…I know the Yanks pledge to keep him there a full year to work on his defensive skills…but if his bat stays that hot, I wonder if they will stick to the plan?

  160. CaptainsCorner

    So just put Bruney on the DL. What is the big deal? He won’t be missed. I am sure they have someone in the minors who could walk the bases loaded and throw a straight fastball right down the middle. How is arriving AFTER your daughter was already born a “miracle”??!!

  161. bphill

    Ah I just want this game played, I don’t want to wait.

    http://www.weather.com/weather/map/USIL0225?clip=686&region=null&collection=localwxforecast&presname=Chicago,%20IL%20Forecast&name=index_large_animated&day=1

    I’m guessing 8:30-8:45 start?

  162. RustyJohn

    Harold Reynolds was the best- by the way, speaking of AAA players, half the former players they have on Baseball Tonight are AAA players- Orestes Destrade? I know being the inaugural day first baseman for the Florida Marlins is prestigious, particularly when the ace of that staff was Charlie Hough, but come on….

  163. Joe M

    Whats the scoop Was HR fired and why

  164. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    Just as long as they start playing before 11 PM. I would like to sleep at a semi reasonable time tonight.

  165. SJ44

    Saturday night, Sean Green of the Mariners hit Vlad Guerrero in the head with a pitch. It was the fourth straight pitch that was up and in to Vlad.

    He got warned and didn’t get tossed out of the game. Same thing that happened to Farnsworth.

    No suspension from Bob Watson and no outraged commentary from Gammons.

    My question is, why not? Green drilled a guy in the head and nobody said a word about it.

    I maintain that if Gammons wasn’t so irate the other night, Farnsworth wouldn’t have been suspended.

    He was everywhere on the ESPN Family of Networks the day after the incident expressing his outrage. He made it bigger than it was.

    If not, then I ask again, where was the outrage from him when Green hit Vlad in the head?

  166. RustyJohn

    They claimed it was sexual harassment

  167. Guiseppe Franco

    Boston Dave,

    I’m sorry that I upset you, but you should be man enough to debate the argument without kicking the dirt and whining about it.

  168. Matt Waters

    LOL @ the rain delay music. Makes me want to throw on a snazzy turtle neck sweater and drink a bottle of wine, while solemnly staring at a fireplace.

  169. Jer

    It’s raining cats and dogs here. I can see US Cellular from my window. Glad I didn’t go today. I’m not sure they’re going to get the game in unless they wait at least an hour or two.

  170. Boston Dave

    Giuseppe,

    I gave you that courtesy until you started flailing and taking shots. If you want to believe Gammons is not pro-Sox, that’s your prerogative. Don’t get mad at me for laughing at you.

  171. RustyJohn

    Maybe they can come up with a white trash solution and go down to Wal-Mart, buy a giant blue tarp, and stretch it over the top of the stadium.

  172. trisha -

    I loved Reynolds too. The allegation was that he took an intern out to dinner and he supposedly hugged and kissed her and she called it sexual harassment. After the initial details came out everyone got quiet because of the dismissal and ligitation. I’m stunned if he ended up getting a huge payout only because I would have thought that ESPN would have done due iligence in terms of attempting to ascertain facts before they terminated him.

    On the other hand, I think I also remember Reynolds saying he was upset because he said ESPN never really bothered to find out his side of the story.

    Who knows wherein lies the truth.

  173. SJ44

    Montero just threw a laser for a CS. That time, he looked like a catcher.

    Really got rid of the ball quickly and showed some zip on the throw.

    I’ve only seen this kid play 4 innings behind the plate.

    I can see though why the Yankees want to keep him behind the plate right now and see how it goes.

    He just needs work. He’s not somebody who looks out of place back there.

    For a big guy, he moves really well. Sets a good target and it pretty flexible.

    Based on this limited view, I think its worth giving him the time to see if he can develop as a catcher.

    Betances just blew away a hitter on a 94 MPH fastball.

    Still 2-1 Columbus, bottom of the 4th.

  174. jennifer

    Geez 9:30!! :(

  175. Teddy

    Anybody else hearing Andy talking about Phil Hughes? Good stuff.

    “He doesn’t throw his changeup very much. But uh, he’s got a curveball.”

    He said some good thinks about what him and Ian need to do to be successful.

  176. Fran

    They’re going to wait a long time. This is the Yankees only trip to Chicago this year.

  177. jennifer

    Why can’t the Yankees ever have a normal get away game like every other team?

    I guess it is cause the Yankees are still king.

  178. Rishi

    9:30 :( I wanted to get to sleep at a reasonable hour tonight!

  179. Westerner99

    9:30??? Time to pop in disc 2 of season 2.0 of BSG.

  180. jennifer

    I could have run errands. :( Well at least I’m getting stuff off my dvr.

  181. Guiseppe Franco

    Doesn’t sound like laughing – it’s sounds more like you got upset.

    keep digging as long you want. soon enough your argument will reach China. maybe they’ll believe your crap.

    keep digging

    That’s not laughter. I just heard your blood pressure rise.

    Find me someone to debate the argument rather than a crying girl with a skinned knee.

  182. jimmy27

    Suzyn say 45 minutes.

  183. RustyJohn

    This is when living on the West coast is ideal…

  184. SJ44

    Trisha,

    He got a huge settlement. Closer to what he was asking for ( in excess of $5 million) than what ESPN initially offered him (less than 1 million).

    The reason he was able to sign with SNY is because the so called sexual harassment charge never took place. SNY investigated the allegation and found it to be untrue.

    It was a way for ESPN to “reason” why they terminated him without pay when he had 4 years to go on his contract.

    Unfortnately for ESPN, regardless of their spin on the matter, they lost. They settled because he had a great case against them.

    Good for Harold. He’s one of the real good guys in the business and he got completely screwed by ESPN.

    Ironically, Gammons was one of the few people at the network that stood up for him. Standup move by Peter.

    Harold will also be in the Baseball Channel when that debuts next season.

  185. trisha -

    I’m currently watching the Mets-Nats game.

    So here’s the conundrum that Corie would understand. The Pope said mass at Nationals Stadium so then it stands to reason that the Nats should be blessed especially at a game on their own hallowed ground. When I turned it on, the Mets were leading 1-0. But then someone named Church on the Mets was either on base or scored or something.

    That’s a tough one!

    :D

  186. Boston Dave

    “Find me someone to debate the argument rather than a crying girl with a skinned knee.”

    Fine. find an argument that you are actually capable of providing even remotely convincing evidence for, and you got yourself a deal!

  187. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    You guys are complaining about 9.30?

    Sheesh, it’s just an hour.

  188. ANSKY

    SJ – Realistically, in what order would you rank Montero’s ideal place when he eventually comes up?

    1B, then C? C/DH with thoughts of moving him towards first? What’s his most natural position besides offensive masher?

    Interested in seeing what you thought with consideration to his fielding skills, and who else might be in consideration for 1B / C in a few years.

    Is it a better overall picture if he comes up in a couple years to step in as Posada’s successor? Do they trade for & sign a decent 1B like Mientkieoevietzcksywic … err .. Doug (or even someone else whose name is easier for JG to spell on a lineup card) for 2-3 years with the intention of Montero taking over?

    The way his hitting is described, one can drool over the prospect of having his bat in the lineup sooner than he’s ready. Although if his fielding needs honing he probably should get playing time in the minors, he sounds intriguing even if he comes up as a DH at first.

  189. Rishi

    last night I couldn’t even stay up for all of the post game (early business trip today) – I was hoping to get to sleep before midnight tonight – not looking good for that

  190. jennifer

    I know I couldn’t either. :(

  191. SJ44

    Betances is in a nice groove now. He’s gone 5 innings, 2 hits, 2 runs (1 earned) 3BB, and 5K’s.

    He’s an impressive kid. Still raw but, there’s a lot of talent there. Its pretty evident he is a high ceiling kid.

    If he stays healthy, he’s got the chance to be something in a few years. He has been throwing 93-94 very free and easy the last 2 innings.

  192. JS54

    SJ44, you always make it seem like you know everything but in reality you know nothing. Don’t full so full of yourself. Your knowledge of the game is nothing special.

  193. Joe from Long Island

    The Yankees never” get a day game on getaway day.”

    I guess this is part of the deal of being the Yankees. It sure makes it tough when you live in the Eastern time zone and have to get up in the morning.

  194. ANSKY

    I liked Harold Reynolds. I’m glad to see the allegations were total BS (although its sad he had to go through all that) and he eventually got his due for it.

  195. Boston Dave

    SJ44,

    thanks for the updates.

    you typing all of this from your phone?

  196. Bob Glassberg

    Sun is shining In Cedar Rapids. Good weather on the way to Chicago. Lucky also – we were forecast rain until tomorrow morning

  197. Frank Discussion

    Regards Gammons, I don’t enjoy his pro-Sox slant, but I respect the man for what he has accomplished. He was born and raised in Red Sox territory, only seems natural he is a fan. Sometimes he comes across as ESPN’s version of Andy Rooney.

  198. A.B.K

    Live from Chicago, they’re taking off the tarp right now.

  199. SJ44

    Just in what I am seeing tonight, and its only 5 innings, I’d keep him at catcher as long as they can.

    If he can catch, he becomes an even special talent because its so rare to have a catcher with his skills.

    Yes, he’s big. But, so is Joe Mauer. He’s not any bigger than Mauer. He’s athletic and that last throw he made to throw out a baserunner was impressive.

    I’ll be able to give a more educated opinion after this weekend. Just based on this initial review, I’d keep him at catcher as long as I can.

  200. jennifer

    JS54

    If you don’t like what he says, it is very simple don’t read it. everyone else enjoys reading what he says.

  201. Teddy

    Big guys like Montero usually end up getting moved to first base, and I think that’ll be best for his bat in the long term. I also think he can get here sooner if he plays first. And ultimately, I really like Austin Romine as a catching prospect. Does anybody know why he’s on the DL?

  202. ANSKY

    Sounds like JS54 has pretty close ties to the team, management, the minor league system, the scouts and tons of experience in the business. Impressive. :|

  203. Betsy

    Teddy, I missed Andy’s comments – can you give a brief rundown? Thanks!

  204. Boston Dave

    ANSKY,

    i dont know that the allegations were total BS. Reportedly, one of Harold’s complaints were that white employees showed similar behavior and didn’t get reprimanded at all. He claimed racial bias.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/sports/baseball/16reynolds.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

  205. trisha -

    SJ44 – wow.

    I always like to look at the outside perimeter of this stuff, so I have a few questions. Why would ESPN attempt to terminate him without any allegation? He was one of their most popular commentators so there would be no good reason to get rid of him. I assume they believed the allegation. Who knows if there were prior allegations. Very odd for a network to can one of its top commentators for nothing.

    Why the one million dollar offer? If ESPN was offering that money I assume they were admitting fault. Nobody offers that kind of money just to make someone go away. And then if ESPN thought that had been wrong based on things they later determined, why not just offer him the job back with an admittance that they had been wrong in terminating him. With our bravado sports-loving nation, people weren’t going to turn away from watching ESPN just because they felt Harold had been wronged.

    I guess I’m saying I don’t get it.

    What kind of investigation could SNY have done and made a determination that Reynolds did no wrong? Unless they instituted a suit against the complainant on behalf of Reynolds, I cannot imagine how they could have determined anything. I am seriously doubting that the complainant all of a sudden got religion and told SNY she made the whole thing up.

    Any hard details I can read about?

  206. JS54

    ANSKY yes i do actally

  207. Boston Dave

    ANSKY,

    i dont know that the allegations were total BS. Reportedly, one of Harold’s complaints were that white employees showed similar behavior and didn’t get reprimanded at all. He claimed racial bias.

    src: NY Times

  208. SJ44

    Romine has a lower back injury. Its not considered serious.

  209. Boston Dave

    ESPN said it stood by its decision to dismiss Reynolds. It said in a statement that the settlement was “economically compelling to ESPN,” amounting to a “fraction of his demands and less than what it would have cost to litigate the case.”

  210. Joe from Long Island

    Who was that big guy who was catcher on Texas a few years ago? Something Casanova? As I remember, he was pretty good for a few years. If I do remember this correctly, then, being a bit larger than than the norm does not necessarily rule out Montero continuing as a catcher.

  211. jennifer

    Hey computer savy people, somehow I enlarged the writing on my screen to like 50 font. How to I fix it.

  212. Boston Dave

    glad to hear Harold will be on the baseball channel.

  213. Alex

    SJ44,

    Thanks for the interesting observations from Charleston. Another guy that I think is really talented is Abraham Almonte, CF. Looks like he’s got a lot of tools. What’s your take?

    It’s legitimately possible 4 players from Charleston make Baseball America’s Top 100 list. Heredia, Betances, Montero, and Almonte. That’s crazy!

  214. Teddy

    SJ44

    Have you seen Romine??? Do you like him? Everything I’ve read about him seems to be positive.

  215. Boston Dave <