Comments on: Good night from Cleveland http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ja Grigoreas http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-752122 Ja Grigoreas Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:34:08 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-752122 Hello Guru, what entice you to post an article. This article was extremely interesting, especially since I was searching for thoughts on this subject last week. Hello Guru, what entice you to post an article. This article was extremely interesting, especially since I was searching for thoughts on this subject last week.

]]> By: Upendraya http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-657280 Upendraya Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:34:28 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-657280 Please, can you PM me and tell me few more thinks about this, I am really fan of your blog... Please, can you PM me and tell me few more thinks about this, I am really fan of your blog…

]]> By: Betsy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-325918 Betsy Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:25:17 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-325918 Cash had the "onions" to stand by Phil Hughes and not trade him when I'm sure he would have loved to have Santana; I have no doubt that Brian believes in his long-term plan and, if still with the team next year and beyond, intends to follow it through to fruition. The nice thing is, it doesn't have to end. If they keep their philosophy intact, the good players (granted, most of whom will not be stars or even big leaguers) will keep coming. I guess you could say it all began with Phil, but he's just the beginning.......so, we need to sit tight. As to the offense, we do not have a lineup of one-dimensional sluggers. Jeter is a great hitter, but hardly a power threat; Cano is a terrific hitter -he's got some HR power and obviously he's a high average guy; Abreu.....he's basically an all-around good hitter. A-Rod does everything (hits for avg. AND power), Jorge doesn't slug a lot of HRs ....a good amt to be sure, but that is not all there is to his game. Matsui - a solid all-around guy. Giambi -yes, clearly he is an all or nothing guy. Melky - not a HR guy. This is a truly excellent lineup - now I can not account for why they all go into tailspins at the same time, but I have no problems with the construction of the offense (except for Giambi, and he will be gone next year). Cash had the “onions” to stand by Phil Hughes and not trade him when I’m sure he would have loved to have Santana; I have no doubt that Brian believes in his long-term plan and, if still with the team next year and beyond, intends to follow it through to fruition. The nice thing is, it doesn’t have to end. If they keep their philosophy intact, the good players (granted, most of whom will not be stars or even big leaguers) will keep coming. I guess you could say it all began with Phil, but he’s just the beginning…….so, we need to sit tight.

As to the offense, we do not have a lineup of one-dimensional sluggers. Jeter is a great hitter, but hardly a power threat; Cano is a terrific hitter -he’s got some HR power and obviously he’s a high average guy; Abreu…..he’s basically an all-around good hitter. A-Rod does everything (hits for avg. AND power), Jorge doesn’t slug a lot of HRs ….a good amt to be sure, but that is not all there is to his game. Matsui – a solid all-around guy. Giambi -yes, clearly he is an all or nothing guy. Melky – not a HR guy. This is a truly excellent lineup – now I can not account for why they all go into tailspins at the same time, but I have no problems with the construction of the offense (except for Giambi, and he will be gone next year).

]]> By: JMO http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-325904 JMO Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:46:05 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-325904 this looks like a bloated, stodgy team again, similar to how it looked before cano and wang showed up. think about this, im not proposint any trade here b/c its just too complicated, but imagine if this didnt have giambi, damon or matsui and instead had mientkiewitz (sp, i tried!), brandon inge, and gardner on it. the yanks just dont have those kind or great defensive role players that can finish a game, or manufacture a run when the big guns arent going. i think id like that team alot better. and i like giambi damon and especially matsui but this team is just bloated and inflexible. this looks like a bloated, stodgy team again, similar to how it looked before cano and wang showed up. think about this, im not proposint any trade here b/c its just too complicated, but imagine if this didnt have giambi, damon or matsui and instead had mientkiewitz (sp, i tried!), brandon inge, and gardner on it. the yanks just dont have those kind or great defensive role players that can finish a game, or manufacture a run when the big guns arent going. i think id like that team alot better. and i like giambi damon and especially matsui but this team is just bloated and inflexible.

]]> By: JMO http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-325899 JMO Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:37:08 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-325899 sorry i meant 3 postitions for inge (c, 3b, of) sorry i meant 3 postitions for inge (c, 3b, of)

]]> By: randy l http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-325896 randy l Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:36:38 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-325896 sj- it goes without saying that giambi is a relic from along ago age purchased in a different economic environment. mussina is too. in the new economic climate, any one team won't have so many of these including the yankees. i agree with you that young players add youthful energy and that it's a good thing to add each year. the question is how far you take it. with some players youthful energy doesn't outweigh being really good. no matter how much energy shelly duncan or melky cabrera or some other young outfielder has, they are not as good a hitter this year as manny. they will never be as good. so while bringing up the energy is great, being a veteran and being really good is still better. but you can't find enough mannys or arod to fill a whole team nor could you afford it. it's not all youthfulness or all veteraness that is going to be the best team. it'll be a blending of the two. it goes without saying the yankees right now have too much expensive old veteraness right now that will peel off next year so it is as you say a transition year. but cleveland is not going to be a better team next year without sabathia. the red sox are not going to be a better team without manny. individual teams that are good are in general getting worse. that's a trend that your idea of constant youthful energy doesn't help. at some point the big bucks have to be paid for the really good veterans. there's not going to be a league of all these perpetually young teams playing each other. there's no sense to aim at being this kind of team that's not going to exist. i think we'd probably come close to agreeing on what is a good blend of young and veteran , but the thing i'm really saying is that neither the yankees nor the red sox are going to be as loaded as they were a few years ago. mike timlin pitched the last inning in a game that counted in the standings last night. need i say more? sj-
it goes without saying that giambi is a relic from along ago age purchased in a different economic environment. mussina is too. in the new economic climate, any one team won’t have so many of these including the yankees.

i agree with you that young players add youthful energy and that it’s a good thing to add each year. the question is how far you take it. with some players youthful energy doesn’t outweigh being really good. no matter how much energy shelly duncan or melky cabrera or some other young outfielder has, they are not as good a hitter this year as manny.

they will never be as good. so while bringing up the energy is great, being a veteran and being really good is still better. but you can’t find enough mannys or arod to fill a whole team nor could you afford it.

it’s not all youthfulness or all veteraness that is going to be the best team. it’ll be a blending of the two. it goes without saying the yankees right now have too much expensive old veteraness right now that will peel off next year so it is as you say a transition year.

but cleveland is not going to be a better team next year without sabathia. the red sox are not going to be a better team without manny. individual teams that are good are in general getting worse. that’s a trend that your idea of constant youthful energy doesn’t help.

at some point the big bucks have to be paid for the really good veterans. there’s not going to be a league of all these perpetually young teams playing each other. there’s no sense to aim at being this kind of team that’s not going to exist.

i think we’d probably come close to agreeing on what is a good blend of young and veteran , but the thing i’m really saying is that neither the yankees nor the red sox are going to be as loaded as they were a few years ago. mike timlin pitched the last inning in a game that counted in the standings last night.

need i say more?

]]> By: JMO http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-325895 JMO Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:36:17 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-325895 god, i am so sick of giambi. nice that he's giving you more than he's taking or whatever pete said, but doesnt anybody remember he is making around $20M! is that what we look for in a $20M guy nowadays, he gives you more than he takes away? id trade the guy for brandon inge in a heartbeat, a guy who does nothing spectacular but everything that wins games, at 2 positions no less! god, i am so sick of giambi. nice that he’s giving you more than he’s taking or whatever pete said, but doesnt anybody remember he is making around $20M! is that what we look for in a $20M guy nowadays, he gives you more than he takes away? id trade the guy for brandon inge in a heartbeat, a guy who does nothing spectacular but everything that wins games, at 2 positions no less!

]]> By: Jax http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-325890 Jax Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:27:28 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-325890 I would be much more worried about the direction of this organization if George was still running the team. Sure he spent money, but he also made a lot of bad personnel decisions and almost never listened to his baseball people. Hank talks a lot but he appears to be a little different from George. He seems to be on board with the youth movement. That's something George would have never gone for. I would be much more worried about the direction of this organization if George was still running the team.
Sure he spent money, but he also made a lot of bad personnel decisions and almost never listened to his baseball people.
Hank talks a lot but he appears to be a little different from George. He seems to be on board with the youth movement. That’s something George would have never gone for.

]]> By: Rhapsody in Blue http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-325889 Rhapsody in Blue Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:26:30 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-325889 I will be happy a year form now when Giambi is gone. I have been arguing with Yankee friends for years about his lack of defense and the cost to the team. Not only him but Matsui. The Yankees enamored with offense ignored the defensive liabilities of both and look what we have now? A logjam at DH. I can't wait for next season and hope that the replacements for these older players can do a bit more than deliver homeruns.The old adage that defense and pitching wins ballgames is still true. I will be happy a year form now when Giambi is gone. I have been arguing with Yankee friends for years about his lack of defense and the cost to the team. Not only him but Matsui. The Yankees enamored with offense ignored the defensive liabilities of both and look what we have now? A logjam at DH. I can’t wait for next season and hope that the replacements for these older players can do a bit more than deliver homeruns.The old adage that defense and pitching wins ballgames is still true.

]]> By: Glenn http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/comment-page-2/#comment-325884 Glenn Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:14:01 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/25/good-night-from-cleveland/#comment-325884 Darrell Rasner with a scheduled start tonight at AAA. If he pitches another gem, how can he be denied ? Darrell Rasner with a scheduled start tonight at AAA. If he pitches another gem, how can he be denied ?

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