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Yankees should draft this guy

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Apr 26, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Check out this catch by a player from Quinnipiac University in Connecticut.

That’s loyal reader Seth Rothman on the call.

 
 

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96 Responses to “Yankees should draft this guy”

  1. Westerner99 April 26th, 2008 at 10:23 am

    It was a good catch…nothing more. Just gets hype because he lost his balance and fell over the wall.

  2. matt April 26th, 2008 at 10:26 am

    that’s a heck of catch. as a quinnipiac student, it’s nice to see quinnipiac on other sites where you wouldn’t expect it.

  3. Hobs April 26th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    He JUST lost his balance?!?!?

    That really was an amazing play.

    Bobby Abreu does not make that catch.

  4. Buddy Biancalana April 26th, 2008 at 10:40 am

    Get that man a contract!

  5. timdogg April 26th, 2008 at 10:48 am

    shouldn’t that be a homerun the ball and Seth went over the fence?

  6. Dewey April 26th, 2008 at 10:51 am

    “He made the catch!!!”

    haha. thanks for the vid. no way damon makes that play in CF.

  7. JMO April 26th, 2008 at 10:59 am

    you missed damon in his crash-test-dummy days in k.c. when he still had blazing speed, he was worth the price of admission to watch and he would have made that catch standing under it and waiting for it to come down.

  8. JMO April 26th, 2008 at 11:01 am

    Am I incorrect in assuming that if the player completely goes over the wall and leaves the field of play with the ball in his glove that it’s a home run?

  9. Don Vito A. Bellamo April 26th, 2008 at 11:05 am

    we can still win every game left in April….NEVER SAY DIE….time for everybody on the team to ramp it up a notch ! ;-)

  10. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 11:09 am

    there are 2 JMO’s here, what are the odds?

  11. randy l April 26th, 2008 at 11:10 am

    the way you can tell he ‘s young is how quick he comes back over the fence. damon stays down for a while.

  12. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 April 26th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Great catch.

    Can’t wait to go see Scranton tonight, though if I can’t get Shelley’s autograph, I don’t know who to ask! :-P

  13. Sean the disabled mess April 26th, 2008 at 11:19 am

    I was thinking the same thing. Shouldn’t that be a home run, Pete? The ball is over the fence and so is the player.

  14. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 11:21 am

    this is something of a continuation from a dead thread but id love to hear some of you guy’s opinions about this.
    my friend was hot this winter for the yanks to get inge and roberts from the tigers after the cabrera deal, i was ambivalent at the time. i was hot for the yanks to keep mientkewitz or phillips at 1b. i dont want to get into possible trades but compare these teams please.
    if the yanks didnt have giambi, matsui or damon, but instead had inge, roberts, meinkewitz and gardner on it. These are the kind of role players the yanks really need. inge is nothing spectacular but wins games so many different ways at c, 3b and of. an outfield of abreu, gadner and melky would cover a ton of ground and stop baserunners dead. jeter/gardner/melky at leadoff, jeter/cano/melky can bat 2nd. Posada becomes the dh and molina the c. this is the kind of team that will shut down the opponent late in game or manufacture a run in the 9th.
    roberts is nothing spectacular but a lefty who would give them 33 solid starts while hughes/kennedy/joba develop.
    what do you think, this could have been done but wasnt. (credit for the inge/roberts deal goes to my buddy not me, but now i think it was brilliant)

  15. James G April 26th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    The catch ITSELF isn’t anything special. Its the aftermath that makes it one of the best plays ive ever seen. Its the same w/ the Jeter diving into the stands play.

    Great video, thanks for posting it.

  16. Westerner99 April 26th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    No offense to the kid who caught the ball…but Jeter’s catch had him diving into metal seats. This kid just tumbled onto the grass.

    I was thinking it was a HR when the fielder goes over, as well. I’ll have to check the rule book. I’ve never had that happen at a high school game before. (Also because our fences are 12 feet tall.)

  17. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    i dont have the rulebook in front of me but i see the guy climb back over the fence and him and his teammates running off the field after, so if its a HR, they’re gonna neeed to get thier OF’s back out on the field!

  18. jennifer April 26th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Sweeney said that Alex will probably dh today.

    soooo

    Damon lf
    Jeter ss
    Bobby RF
    Alex DH
    Posada C
    Shelley 1b
    Cano 2b
    Morgan 3b
    Melky CF

  19. SJ44 April 26th, 2008 at 11:36 am

    You are assuming those players were able to be acquired.

    There really isn’t any incentive, unless they get a bounty, for the Tigers to deal with the Yankees.

    Especially this year, with both teams possibly competing for the WC.

    They held onto Inge (smartly, IMO) because he has value at several positions.

    Robertson? They need all the pitching they can get. The Tigers are still looking for pitching. They aren’t looking to deal pitching.

    The Yankees had to re-sign Arod. To me, that’s a no brainer. Take Arod out of this lineup, and he’s not going to be replaced by platoon or limited players.

    Their issues this year aren’t because of Arod. Its because other, less productive players in their everyday lineup are struggling and their pitching is a mess.

    In a lot of ways, its still a game of pitching. You pitch well, you win.

    The plan the Yankees have is the correct one. They just have to stick to it and begin to ease younger players into the mix.

    That’s already happening and more of that will come this year.

  20. Sterling Steiner April 26th, 2008 at 11:40 am

    Send this stuff into Sportscenter and put it on the Top Plays.

  21. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 11:41 am

    i know any trade was no certainty but this bloated, inflexible team is not a winner in my book. i know this is an unstated rebuilding year and things should look better in the future but i dont like this team very much. i got mlb.tv and iv been watching alot of other teams so far and the yanks just have no spark. as i said earlier, on the position/hitter side, they look something like they did before cano showed up, bashing and hoping the D doesnt give it away is thier only means of winning.
    i would sure have liked my other team alot better and im confident it would win alot more games.

  22. pat April 26th, 2008 at 11:43 am

    JMO2

    Nice fantasy baseball question but in the real world what are you proposing the Yankees do with Damon Matsui and Giambi? That’s alot of money to just eat.

  23. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 11:46 am

    not to argue what might or might not have happened, there was a feeling at the time that the tigers were stacked at SP, and they signed D-train to an extention i believe. (a real yankees-style deal there!) verlander, bonderman and willis starting the season by falling flat on thier faces changes all that now.

  24. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    pat, i understand your point but if the mienkeiwitz/inge team is better and alot cheaper i belive we might have been able to find some bullpen help in deals for those 3, even if they had to eat more than half the money (which is already spent no matter how you look at it)
    anyway my point was not to get into trade discussions, what do you think should be done about this inflexible, defensively attrocious team we have right now?

  25. Fran April 26th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    I know that Joba is human and will loose occasionally, but I wonder if this had anything to do with the 9th inning on Thursday night.
    “He slipped on the mound (Thursday night) and tweaked
    his legs,” manager Joe Girardi told The Post during
    batting practice.
    He did have trouble locating in the 9th inning and left some pitches up after being lights out in the 8th.

  26. Khoa April 26th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Great catch. Great call. Nice work Seth

  27. SP April 26th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    It is not a home run, it’s an out, according to the 2008 NCAA rulebook:
    http://www.ncaa.org/library/ru....._rules.pdf
    Page 90, rule 8-3-m:
    For fields with fences, if a fielder legally catches a batted ball, and then
    jumps over or falls over or through the fence and retains the ball, the
    batter is out and the ball becomes dead. All runners advance one base.
    If a fair ball is dropped outside the fence, it becomes a home run. This
    same dead-ball ruling applies to foul flies legally caught near dugouts
    when the fielder falls into the dugout and retains the ball;

  28. pat April 26th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    JMO2

    Even half the money is about 40 million dollars. Then you still have to pay the guys you are proposing to get.

    What I do is what the Yankees are doing. Bide my time and patiently plan. Knee jerk is what got them into this place now. I develop the players that can one day contribute and keep my eye on the free agent markets or trades that can make the team better in other areas. Sometimes you just have to live with the choices you make even if you are not happy with the outcome.

  29. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    “anyway my point was not to get into trade discussions, what do you think should be done about this inflexible, defensively attrocious team we have right now?”

    Bench Giambi and find someone who can play 1B adequately. That’s really the only option. Also, I’m not really clear how they’re defensively atrocious, other than Giambi. That just doesn’t add up.

  30. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    the $40M is spent no matter how you look at it, and the added cost of minky/inge/roberts/gardner (or it could have been crede(as lf,3b,c), minky/cain/gardner) would be negligable for this year and then then a net -$30M next year.

  31. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    giambi is attrocious, and jeter is below average. damon and matsui are below average in of. posade, at least right now is almost unplayable at c.

  32. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    “giambi is attrocious, ”

    true

    ” and jeter is below average. ”

    In a bad year he’s below average, this year he is not.

    “damon and matsui are below average in of.”

    Damon is not below average in LF, matsui is.

    “posade, at least right now is almost unplayable at c.”

    Nah he’s fine

  33. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    in any case, there were alot of ways the yankees could have eaten some contract dollars already wasted and picked up flexible role players and some pitching help over the winter and nothing was done. even if the young pitching comes around and this monster offense gets into the playoffs, they will again fall victim to the superior PS pitching because they cant manufacture runs or stop the other team from manufacturing runs in close game/late innin situations.

  34. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    “the yanks just have no spark.”

    Gosh, could that be because their 1 and 2 hitters are not getting on base very well? Nah, it’s because they need to replace Matsui with Gardner. Could it be because their all-star 2B is in a heinous slump? Nah, it’s because they don’t have Brandon Inge as their super-sub.

    The first four hitters in the Yankee lineup can all steal bases and go first to third on a single. They can generate runs. They just have key guys that aren’t getting the job done right now. It happens.

  35. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    The angels can manufacture runs and they have superior pitching, didn’t help them much last postseason. Bunting and stealing bases is sometimes useful but hardly the key to winning the world series.

  36. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    “the yanks just have no spark.”

    They had plenty of spark last night, it just came down to the pitching once again. Our second best starter had a nice lead in the fifth inning and he blew it. Our bullpen didn’t do us any favors either (Traber I’m looking at you). If Pettitte had stayed the course and got through 7 giving up only a run or two the team would have looked very sparky indeed.

  37. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    “posade, at least right now is almost unplayable at c.”

    Where did this come from? He’s played like…eight games behind the plate, right? Is this because someone stole a base yesterday off I-have-a-hesitation-even-in-the-stretch Billy Traber?

    “the yankees could have eaten some contract dollars already wasted and picked up flexible role players and some pitching help over the winter and nothing was done.”

    What pitching help? Would any of that help have been better than Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, Ohlendorf, Veras, Britton, Albaladejo, Horne or Ramirez?

    Picked up role players like Shelley Duncan and Morgan Ensberg? Guys who can maybe actually hit their weight? And could help balance an offense that struggled against lefties all last season? No, I forgot…role players are bad hitters that bunt.

  38. Download April 26th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    I hope Ian could hold them back for at least 5 innings.

    Stock tip of the day:
    The US Air Force is about to award the GPS III contract to Lockheed Martin next month.

  39. OldYanksFan April 26th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    “Also, I’m not really clear how they’re defensively atrocious, other than Giambi.”
    —————————————————-
    Defensively, my take is:
    Cano – well above average
    Melky, JD – slightly above average.
    Shelly, ARod, Abreu, Posada – average to slightly below average.
    Jeter, Giambi, Matsui – well below average

    If you disagree, please show some stats/evidence to back your opinions.

    They are not atrocious, just below average,

    PinstripesPlus: “As mentioned above, Duncan has quick feet but his range isn’t the greatest around the bag. He’s serviceable defensively at first base, akin to Jason Giambi”

  40. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    “Bunting and stealing bases is sometimes useful but hardly the key to winning the world series.”

    Cue the “David Roberts” defense!

  41. Drive 4-5 April 26th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    I know this is the most unpopular opinion to hold on this blog,but I’ll say it anyways and get beat up.

    The problem with the ’08 Yankees is an inconsistent offense and a weak staff of starting pitchers.

    The bullpen, as it was constucted out of Spring Training, was functional. The only real bullpen weakness being the lack of a lefty specialist. The problems the Yanks now have with their bullpen is the fault of their weak starting pitching staff.

    Put Johan Sanata on this team and it takes on an entirely different look. Until proven otherwise, not making the Santana deal was a mistake IMO.

    Now you can beat me up . lol

  42. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    with damon/giambi/matsui gone and a crede/inge at b/u catcher posada can dh or start at 1b (with minky ready for late innings), leaving space for jeter to dh and gonzalez to cover short. this is a team that could win PS games and still mash.

  43. pat April 26th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Role players are nice but how far are a team of role players going to get you in the post season. If you can manufacture 4 runs, you have to not give up 5. As always, it’s all about the pitching.

  44. PJH April 26th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Thats a homerun.

  45. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    “If you disagree, please show some stats/evidence to back your opinions.”

    I know ARod has been inconsistent over the years at 3B, but I was under the impression he’d become above average over there at this point.

    I never said they were a great defensive team, but atrocious is certainly a ridiculous assertion.

  46. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    “crede/inge at b/u catcher posada can dh or start at 1b (with minky ready for late innings), leaving space for jeter to dh and gonzalez to cover short. this is a team that could win PS games and still mash.”

    Wait…So who catches normally? Molina?

    Show me your prospective everyday lineup. You’ve now got Gonzalez at SS, who has DEFINITELY not shown the bat to play with regularity in the majors, guys who were moved off catcher because they stunk at it (crede/inge) behind the plate, Jeter at DH (where is bat is just average). Oh, and POSADA at first base to shore up the defense? And Gardner as the every day left fielder?

  47. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Cue the “David Roberts” defense!

    true but that wasn’t the only reason the Sox won that year. pitching and timely offense = world series victory

    “Cano – well above average
    Melky, JD – slightly above average.
    Shelly, ARod, Abreu, Posada – average to slightly below average.
    Jeter, Giambi, Matsui – well below average”

    Cano, Arod – well above average
    Melky JD slightly above average
    Jeter Abreu Posada average
    Shelly Matsui below average
    Giambi WEELLLL below average

    JMO honestly you have no idea what you are talking about. You’d rather take all the hitters out of our lineup and put in marginal players. Go watch the Twins, they have players more to your liking.

  48. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    “Wait…So who catches normally? Molina?

    Show me your prospective everyday lineup.”

    I tried to come up with his prospective lineup but I failed. Does he want A-rod gone and Crede at third? or Inge? I’m confused.

  49. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    you cant tell me we couldnt have gotten the cain and a reliever for matsui deal done if we threw in giambi at half salary and they assume his option (yanks save $12M that way). SF has no offense and giambi would have been a very popular replacement for Barry in the bay area. i think the sox would have done damon for crede if you couldnt get inge. i heard hawk harrelson’s glowing praise of damon all week on mlb.tv. I’m sure crede can play of, he is a 3b/c). This would have opened a roster spot for gardner as the 5th of and ph/pr guy. this kind of stuff was definatly doable this winter.

  50. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    yes, molina is your c, crede/inge is your b/u and you will never have to worry about pinch running (gardner) for molina/posada b/c you have a 3rd catcher.

  51. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    for that deal the giants might have traded molinas too, upgrading us from jose to bengi (great glove/better bat/also glacial speed).

  52. Rob NY April 26th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    So wait… did you just type up that we could trade matsui and giambi for bengi molina and matt cain? Really?

  53. pat April 26th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    JMO2

    IF and that’s a big if, the trades you propose could have been made, what are you doing about no trade clauses? These guys all have them.

  54. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    you cant tell me we couldnt have gotten the cain and a reliever for matsui deal done if we threw in giambi at half salary and they assume his option (yanks save $12M that way).

    Yes I can, there is no way they would have done that deal. Cain is similar in value to Hughes, probably more value actually. He’s an extremely young pitcher (23 I believe) who has already been successful at the major league level; ~450 innings at 3.82 ERA. If the Giants wanted to trade Cain with us they should ask for Hughes and Cano as a starting point.

    “SF has no offense and giambi would have been a very popular replacement for Barry in the bay area.”

    Yeah, get rid of one slugging steroid user and replace him with another. The fans would love it!

    “i think the sox would have done damon for crede if you couldnt get inge. i heard hawk harrelson’s glowing praise of damon all week on mlb.tv. I’m sure crede can play of, he is a 3b/c”

    Theres a reason Hawk no longer works for the White Sox — he’s a moron. And the Yankees would never do that deal, Crede is a good player but Damon is better. Why would we want Crede to play OF anyways? What is your fascination with third basemen that are average hitters and good fielders? We happen to have the best hitter in the game at third and he’s a pretty good glove too.

  55. randy l April 26th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    “The plan the Yankees have is the correct one. They just have to stick to it and begin to ease younger players into the mix.”

    sj-
    don’t you mean younger and better? younger is not always synonymous with better. we of course want someone younger at first base, but you also want better. the reason i’m seeming to nit pick here is that there is an assumption that younger is always more progressive and better.

    past a point it’s just not true. i agree that dialing things towards young is needed with this yankees team, but you can only add so many gardners , gonzales ,hughes, and kennedys before the novelty of youthful energy gets beat by other team’s veteran players simply being better.

    players on average peak in their late twenties. if good players are brought up at 21-22 they are not going to be cheap when they at their peak. going younger is not a panacea leading to the promise land.

    that’s why i don’t think you want to make it too painful in any one year in going towards young because it’s an elusive goal that will never really happen.

  56. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    another thing such flexibility give you, with an offense of posada, molina, minky, cano, jeter, arod, melky, gardner, abreu, inge/crede and alberto gonzalez, every position is double covered with only 3 bench players, leaving room for 14 pitchers, which would sure help in the a.l.

  57. SJ44 April 26th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    You are throwing around fantasy baseball deals.

    The Yankees asked for Matt Cain for Matsui. The Giants said no.

    That’s why the deal wasn’t done.

    The problem is some fans can’t handle the fact the team is rebuilding. To do so, they aren’t going to eat 60 million dollars in salary simply because fans want them to.

    You know what the solution? Don’t put yourself in contract hell again.

    A lesson served when fans are screaming for the Yankees to give out 7 year 20 million dollar a year contracts like candy this next off-season.

    There aren’t 10 players in MLB who are worth above 18 million a year. Fortunately for the Yankees, they have 2 (Arod and Jeter) who are.

    Unfortunately for the Yankees, they have one (Giambi) who isn’t.

    Role players on a team are nice. It is something the Yankees need more of on the team.

    A team full of role players? You are the Texas Rangers.

    I don’t think you want the Yankees to be the Texas Rangers.

  58. randy l April 26th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    “Jeter at DH (where is bat is just average)”

    doesn’t bill james have jeter near the top of his lists with win shares. surely this can’t be because of his defense so doesn’t that imply he’s much better than an average dh?

  59. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    say what you want but this is an inflexible, bloated, defensivly deficient team that even if it makes the playoffs will not win a series.
    they almost made the cain for matsui deal w/o giambi. and giambi is still very popular and as an admitted and recovered steroid user would have been just the right guy to replace barry.
    its much easier to make excuses for this ballclub and say it will get better next year than to take a critical look and start making imporvements now instead of waiting till you have $80M for hank and a new GM to blow on sabbathia and texiera next year.

    two or three good moves last winter could have made this year’s yankees a PS threat.

  60. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    “players on average peak in their late twenties. if good players are brought up at 21-22 they are not going to be cheap when they at their peak.”

    Well…the Yanks don’t have anyone that’s good and that young that’s not already on the team :-)

    Pretty much everyone interesting at AAA is 24 or older.

    Also…they’re the Yankees. If the guy’s good, they’ll pay him. If a home-grown player comes up at 22 and does well until he’s a free-agent at 28, unless there are some injury concerns, they’ll show him the money…and they should. Those are EXACTLY the kind of long-term deals you _do_ make.

  61. SJ44 April 26th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Randy,

    Yes, younger and better. However, for younger players to get better, they have to be put in a position to fail.

    Only then do you know if you really have something in a young player.

    Its why I think you will see a lot of movement with the roster this season. When you see the Yankees aggressively promoting players in the minors this early in the season, it tells me they expect a lot of roster turnover as the season progresses.

    It wouldn’t surprise me to see Cox, Melancon, McCutcheon, Ramirez, Patterson, Gardner, and Veras all up at some point during the season.

    Will they all stick? No. But, if a few do, it makes it easier to fix what’s broken in the off-season.

    Its just a season of transition. Doesn’t mean they can’t win. Its just going to take a lot more contributors to the cause to win this season.

  62. Blargh April 26th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    If the Giants said no, how is that hypothetical deal ‘almost’ made?

  63. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    sorry SJ, you are wrong there. they are not rebuilding this year, they are waiting to rebuild next year.
    you cannot possibly defend them as a rebuilding team with giambi/damon/matsui on the roster. moving those 3 to improve the pitching/defense would have been rebuilding.
    this team is wasting time waiting for bad contracts to expire.

  64. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    “doesn’t bill james have jeter near the top of his lists with win shares. surely this can’t be because of his defense so doesn’t that imply he’s much better than an average dh?”

    It’s because he’s an SS, and even though he’s not great, relative to his position his offensive contribution is great. If he’s not defending at all, and he’s being compared to the Ortizs and Travis Hafners of the world, he’s not so impressive anymore.

  65. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    giambi wasnt in the matsui for cain deal. you add giambi with all or part of his salary paid, and they would have done it for sure.

  66. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    “posada, molina, minky, cano, jeter, arod, melky, gardner, abreu, inge/crede and alberto gonzalez”

    Gardner has not proven he can hit.

    There is no backup outfielder.

    M’alphabet can’t hit.

    Crede or Inge DH is awful.

    14 pitchers is laughable.

  67. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    jeter dh’s only maybe 1 or 2x/week which is basically whenever posada plays 1b. but this gives you the option of gonzalez at ss on wang’s days pitching.

  68. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    i said inge/crede would have to play of, no problem there.

  69. randy l April 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    sj-
    in the new baseball environment it seems like players that can play more than one position are extremely valuable to a team, like youkillis or inge. in the past it was thought trying to be good at several positions meant not being good at any.

    detroit has been moving around 3rd basemen, 1st basemen, center fielders in a very different way( granted not by design) than the yankees do. while developing young players why not have catchers also learn first base or outfielders learn first base. gonzalez supposedly hasn’t played much second. why not? it’s not like there is a plan to bump jeter.

  70. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    i believe this was totally doable but wasnt done because to do so would have been admitting what a total waste the giambi and damon contracts were.

  71. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    “sorry SJ, you are wrong there. they are not rebuilding this year, they are waiting to rebuild next year.”

    He was referring to the Giants.

    “Role players on a team are nice. It is something the Yankees need more of on the team.

    A team full of role players? You are the Texas Rangers.

    I don’t think you want the Yankees to be the Texas Rangers.”

    I like the point you are making but I wouldn’t have picked the Ragners as an example of a team of all role players. They have some very good hitters (Kinsler, Young, Hamilton, Blaylock, Bradley and soon Salty). Texas just has no pitching, like seriously NONE. A team of role players would be the Twins. Still, I’m nit picking, your point is a good one.

    “giambi wasnt in the matsui for cain deal. you add giambi with all or part of his salary paid, and they would have done it for sure.”

    There is no possible way the Giants would do this deal. I would bet my life on it without hesitation.

  72. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    the offensive core of jeter, abreu, arod, posada, cano needs role players like inge/crede, and gardner to set it up, not more mashers. the defense needs to improve at 1b, lf, ss and c and these kind of moves would done all of that and improved the pitching

  73. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    “i said inge/crede would have to play of, no problem there.”

    Crede is a third baseman, Inge tried OF this season but he was terrible.

    “i believe this was totally doable but wasnt done because to do so would have been admitting what a total waste the giambi and damon contracts were.”

    It doesn’t matter what you believe, you are wrong.

  74. randy l April 26th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    “If he’s not defending at all, and he’s being compared to the Ortizs and Travis Hafners of the world, he’s not so impressive anymore.”

    ortiz and hafner are only two dhs in the league. and taking defense out of the equation didn’t jeter have a better offensive win share year than hafner in 2007?

    you would know better than me because you’re into bp, james and win shares etc, but don’t those very rankings independent of defense say jeter is a very good hitter and certainly way above average?

  75. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    it didnt have to be inge or crede or robertson or cain, it just had to be any good, flexible, defensivly skilled players for our slow, inflexible, poor defense, injury prone and rediculously overpaid guys.

  76. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    “moving those 3 to improve the pitching/defense would have been rebuilding.”

    Why would any team have given up useful pitching for Giambi or Damon? And I really don’t see why you want to get rid of Matsui. He’s one of the better hitters on the team, and his D is tolerable, especially if he’s DHing the majority of the time.

  77. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    i like all 3. but they are all dh’s really. and with molina behind the plate, we have a great dh, posada.

  78. whozat April 26th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    “it just had to be any good, flexible, defensivly skilled players for our slow, inflexible, poor defense, injury prone and rediculously overpaid guys.”

    Why would ANY team trade GOOD, flexible, defensively skilled players?

  79. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    “it didnt have to be inge or crede or robertson or cain, it just had to be any good, flexible, defensivly skilled players for our slow, inflexible, poor defense, injury prone and rediculously overpaid guys.”

    Damon isn’t slow, he plays a good LF, he’s not injury prone and he is only slightly overpaid.

    Matsui is not injury prone and he is most certainly NOT overpaid.

    Giambi.. well Giambi meets all the criteria you pointed out but the guy can mash. If we could get rid of him I would want him gone but theres nothing we can really do with him.

    I’d rather have guys that can hit at a high level and offer average defense then guys that are all glove no bat like Inge.

  80. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    and when we want more defense, we dh jeter and start gonzalez. now throw gardner in at cf and move melky to left and you’ve got a steller and i do mean STELLAR defense behind joba/mo

  81. Blargh April 26th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    “Why would ANY team trade GOOD, flexible, defensively skilled players?”

    Especially for slow, inflexible, poor defense, injury prone and rediculously overpaid guys? xP

  82. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    “i like all 3. but they are all dh’s really. and with molina behind the plate, we have a great dh, posada.”

    Damon is NOT a DH, he plays average to above average left field. In his place you would rather have Gardner, a guy who hasn’t proven he can hit at AAA let alone the majors.

    Posada as a DH is not as valuable as posada as a C. His hitting is great for a catcher but just ok for a DH.

  83. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    patrick im talking about trading guys like matsui who would bat cleanup in sf or damon who would leadoff every day for the sox, in trades for role players. there are alot of teams that need mashers and will give up role players and/or relief help in return. we just let minky and phillips walk so we could look for another bat like ensberg. we have no concept of defense.

  84. Blargh April 26th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Incidentally, where can I look up zone ratings?

  85. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    “Posada as a DH is not as valuable as posada as a C. His hitting is great for a catcher but just ok for a DH.”
    now thats just statistical bull. is posada a better hitter than giambi (the guy he’d replace?)
    you know he is.

  86. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    damon has good range but his noodle arm needs to come out in late game situations. but all they have on the bench is a no range no arm guy.

  87. Manimal April 26th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    I put it on youtube for your viewing pleasure

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUNujYzoYrc

  88. Patrick April 26th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    “patrick im talking about trading guys like matsui who would bat cleanup in sf or damon who would leadoff every day for the sox, in trades for role players.”

    That is not a good idea. You want to give up valuable players for guys that ride the bench? Brilliant, simply brilliant.

    “now thats just statistical bull. is posada a better hitter than giambi (the guy he’d replace?)
    you know he is.”

    Oh so now statistics are bull. When both are healthy, Giambi is easily the superior hitter.

  89. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    if it makes the team better, damn right id do it, and any of these suggested moves would have done that.
    this team is really put together like crap.

  90. walein April 26th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Isn’t that a home-run in the rule books; because his entire body ended up in the home-run territory?
    Fantastic catch…just wondering.

  91. JMO2 April 26th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    they ran off the field high-fiving each other, i dont suppose they would do that if it was a walk-off HR, otherwise the inning isnt over.

  92. Seth April 26th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Pete, Thanks for posting that!

    The ruling was a catch, because he caught the ball in play, then tumbled out of play. We were talking about that on our broadcast too, but the ruling was a catch, and according to the NCAA rulebook, that’s the correct ruling.

    Our Sports Information Office rushed the ball to all the local media outlets, who showed it, and to ESPN. They didn’t show it on the Top 10 Plays, for whatever reason.

  93. Brooke April 26th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    What an amazing catch and what an amazing job announcing it.

    Thanks for posting this, Pete.

  94. Sam Friedman April 27th, 2008 at 12:51 am

    I want to let everyone know that I, Sam Friedman was the one who filmed the catch, and Justin Cohen was the one who edited the tape and put Seth’s voice. It was good Voice over work, but his calling of the play was not originally part of the tape. I want to make it clear that Seth was the radio announcer, not a TV announcer.

  95. Sam Friedman April 27th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    also the catch was made by Brian Monack in the 6th inning. He is a sophomore at Quinnipiac from Branford, Connecticut. The game was 2-0 at that point. Quinnipiac won 5-4 on a Mike Bartlett 2-run RBI single in the bottom of the 9th to win the game.

  96. Chris Serico April 27th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Fantastic catch, but I’ve always been of the belief that if you catch the ball but fall over the home-run wall, it should be a home run because you broke the home-run plane and didn’t land back on the field.

    Not a popular stance, I know.

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