Comments on: Game 26: Yankees at Indians http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/ A Yankees Blog by Journal News beat writer Peter Abraham Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:29:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: wang is not an ace http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328754 wang is not an ace Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:06:13 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328754 What's wrong with this picture? "SJ44 April 27th, 2008 at 3:32 pm We ought to institute a fine system on the blog. The next time people write Wang is “not an ace”, they should be fined. " "SJ44 October 5th, 2007 at 4:42 pm I don’t think there is any debate on Joba any longer. The Yankees don’t have an ace. Joba is an ace. Unless they trade for Johan Santana in the off-season, they need an ace. Wang is not one, nor will he ever be. Joba is." What’s wrong with this picture?

“SJ44
April 27th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
We ought to institute a fine system on the blog.

The next time people write Wang is “not an ace”, they should be fined.
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“SJ44
October 5th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
I don’t think there is any debate on Joba any longer. The Yankees don’t have an ace. Joba is an ace.

Unless they trade for Johan Santana in the off-season, they need an ace. Wang is not one, nor will he ever be. Joba is.”

]]> By: bodhisattva http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328604 bodhisattva Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:34:31 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328604 Regarding the opinion that you don't have Cano bat w/bases loaded, in favor of Matsui. Cano is in a dreadful slump, and he does not have good numbers with the bases loaded. Having said that, if you paid attention to his at bat, you might have noticed that it was looking very promising, as he hit two balls to the opposite field that were fouls but that he hit well, and that showed this was a connected at bat. I was thinking he was going to do some damage, and he might have, had ONE OF THE WORST CALLS EVER not been made; when he was "caught looking" at a BALL below the knees. Sorry, folks, but that was good judgement on Cano's part to take that pitch, and it was just a LOUSY call by the home plate umpire. You can NOT take the bat out of someone's hands by signalling a call strike when it's nowhere near being slighly borderline, even. Also, Girardi knows it's more important to eschew statistics, there (Cano's troubles hitting in bases loaded situations) and build up the confidence of a guy who will routinely hit around .330 every year. Girardi consults statistics, he isn't enslaved by them. Regarding the opinion that you don’t have Cano bat w/bases loaded, in favor of Matsui.
Cano is in a dreadful slump, and he does not have good numbers with the bases loaded.

Having said that, if you paid attention to his at bat, you might have noticed that it was looking very promising, as he hit two balls to the opposite field that were fouls but that he hit well, and that showed this was a connected at bat. I was thinking he was going to do some damage, and he might have, had ONE OF THE WORST CALLS EVER not been made; when he was “caught looking” at a BALL below the knees.

Sorry, folks, but that was good judgement on Cano’s part to take that pitch, and it was just a LOUSY call by the home plate umpire. You can NOT take the bat out of someone’s hands by signalling a call strike when it’s nowhere near being slighly borderline, even.

Also, Girardi knows it’s more important to eschew statistics, there (Cano’s troubles hitting in bases loaded situations) and build up the confidence of a guy who will routinely hit around .330 every year. Girardi consults statistics, he isn’t enslaved by them.

]]> By: Glenn http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328450 Glenn Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:12:44 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328450 Let's be thankful that the NFL draft took place for 2 days. It allows Russo and Francesca little time to criticize the Yankees on Monday. Let’s be thankful that the NFL draft took place for 2 days. It allows Russo and Francesca little time to criticize the Yankees on Monday.

]]> By: DYNASTY IS DESTINY! http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328420 DYNASTY IS DESTINY! Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:37:39 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328420 I meant, I too liked what I saw from him the other day... I meant, I too liked what I saw from him the other day…

]]> By: DYNASTY IS DESTINY! http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328418 DYNASTY IS DESTINY! Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:36:54 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328418 CB, Yes, you make an interesting point about Albaladejo, I took like what I saw from him the other day...it's just so hard because Joba has set the bar so high... CB,

Yes, you make an interesting point about Albaladejo, I took like what I saw from him the other day…it’s just so hard because Joba has set the bar so high…

]]> By: V http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328411 V Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:35:03 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328411 Who was more valuable in this game? Wang pitching 7 innings of shutout ball, or Joba throwing 1 inning of shutout ball? If Wang allows 2 runs over 7 innings (a damn good performance), we lose, and Joba has a day off in the bullpen. SP > RP. Who was more valuable in this game? Wang pitching 7 innings of shutout ball, or Joba throwing 1 inning of shutout ball?

If Wang allows 2 runs over 7 innings (a damn good performance), we lose, and Joba has a day off in the bullpen.

SP > RP.

]]> By: Jerkface http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328408 Jerkface Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:32:40 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328408 Take Wang out of the rotation. Joba would be the best at holding all the 4 run deficits for the Yankees in the 8th. We'll send in the Big J and other teams will know, they'll say to themselves, "Joba's in, we're only winnin by 4 today." Take Wang out of the rotation. Joba would be the best at holding all the 4 run deficits for the Yankees in the 8th. We’ll send in the Big J and other teams will know, they’ll say to themselves, “Joba’s in, we’re only winnin by 4 today.”

]]> By: CB http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328404 CB Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:29:08 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328404 "How can you beat Joba who can throw 100 mph and the greatest closer of all time." That's really easy. Have your starting pitcher throw lousy innings. Look at the yankees in the playoffs the last two seasons. Take the games against boston this season. For a minute assume joba had been available for all the games. In those 5 games against the sox Joba would have thrown 1 inning. How is that a "weapon?" Using the best arm on your team for 1 inning over the course of 5 games against your chief rival is an absolute waste. Again, yankee fans for some reason have concluded that just because Kyle Farnsworth or LaTroy Hawkins can't pitch in the 8th inning no one else can. How did Albaladejo look the other day when they let him pitch the 8th and 9th? He shut down the other team and kept the yanks in the game. “How can you beat Joba who can throw 100 mph and the greatest closer of all time.”

That’s really easy. Have your starting pitcher throw lousy innings.

Look at the yankees in the playoffs the last two seasons.

Take the games against boston this season. For a minute assume joba had been available for all the games.

In those 5 games against the sox Joba would have thrown 1 inning.

How is that a “weapon?” Using the best arm on your team for 1 inning over the course of 5 games against your chief rival is an absolute waste.

Again, yankee fans for some reason have concluded that just because Kyle Farnsworth or LaTroy Hawkins can’t pitch in the 8th inning no one else can.

How did Albaladejo look the other day when they let him pitch the 8th and 9th? He shut down the other team and kept the yanks in the game.

]]> By: DYNASTY IS DESTINY! http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328396 DYNASTY IS DESTINY! Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:24:23 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328396 Nick in SF, The argument is not that Joba can't be a starter...it's that he can't be a starter this year...not under present conditions... It's really quite simple...just watch the games... Nick in SF,

The argument is not that Joba can’t be a starter…it’s that he can’t be a starter this year…not under present conditions…

It’s really quite simple…just watch the games…

]]> By: CB http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328395 CB Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:24:11 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/04/27/game-26-yankees-at-indians/#comment-328395 "it turned out the “expert” was a 23 year old kid being taught the gyro ball from will carroll at baseball prospectus. it might be the same guy saying stuff about hughes." randy, that article about Joba's mechancis is utter garbage. This "video analysis" that's spreading across the internet is nonsense. It's only hapenning now because it's so easy to get video off of youtube. And anyone can just sit back, set up a web iste and claim to be an expert. The guy talking about phil was different than the guy from the joba analysis. The idea that some random 23 year old with no background in the game knows more about mechanics than Nardi Contreras who added 5-7 mph on Joba's fastball is just laughable. But people put stuff up on the internet and other bloggers link to their stuff and treat them like experts. “it turned out the “expert” was a 23 year old kid being taught the gyro ball from will carroll at baseball prospectus. it might be the same guy saying stuff about hughes.”

randy,

that article about Joba’s mechancis is utter garbage. This “video analysis” that’s spreading across the internet is nonsense.

It’s only hapenning now because it’s so easy to get video off of youtube. And anyone can just sit back, set up a web iste and claim to be an expert.

The guy talking about phil was different than the guy from the joba analysis.

The idea that some random 23 year old with no background in the game knows more about mechanics than Nardi Contreras who added 5-7 mph on Joba’s fastball is just laughable.

But people put stuff up on the internet and other bloggers link to their stuff and treat them like experts.

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